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EzroHey guys, can someone help me with my wireless?00:04
EzroI'm using an HP Pavilion DV4 and it has a wireless button that turns blue/red00:04
EzroBlue when on, red when off00:04
EzroAnd it won't change at all when I press it.00:04
EzroThe driver for my wireless card (Intel Wifi 5100 AGN) is installed, but I can't turn the wireless on00:04
totorommmmmm00:05
totoroi had a weird suggestion, but i don't think it's going to work00:07
totoroif you dualboot in windows, turn it on while on windows and then restart back to kubuntu00:07
totorodef not going to work i guess00:08
EzroxD00:08
EzroI got it to work via hardware drivers lol00:14
EzroKubuntu ftw00:14
totorocoolness in the next generation00:14
EzroBut I'm definitely having trouble copying from my USB00:15
EzroIt's copying at 1 MiB/s00:15
EzroWhich is ridiculously slow.00:15
totoromy harddrive is failing slowly00:16
totoroso it's hard to copy stuff00:16
totoroand it's getting slower00:16
EzroThis is upsetting00:22
EzroApparently it is my hdd.00:22
EzroThat's a brand new hdd too T_T00:23
totoro;x00:26
totorobrand new?00:26
totorowhen did you get it?00:26
totoroanother hypothesis of mine is the filesystems of both the usb and the ext4 hd00:27
EzroI got it for Xmas last year.00:27
totoroah00:27
EzroWell even on my desktop it's xfering at 10MB max.00:27
EzroAt 8 and decreasing rightt now.00:27
Ezro7.00:27
Ezro800:27
totoroi remember getting a computer and it only lasted for one day00:28
EzroThat's really slow for usb speed.00:28
totorostupid windows00:28
totoro:(((00:28
totoroi'm getting 10MB/s here00:29
EzroOn my friend's laptop it's going at ~500KB00:30
EzroOn my desktop it's going at ~8MB.00:30
totorowhat are you copying in there anyway?00:30
Ezro20GB of videos.00:30
totorogasp00:30
EzroIt should transfer in like.. 20-30 minutes00:34
EzroBut it says it's going to take like 10+ hours.00:34
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EzroThis makes -no- sense.00:37
EzroI'm copying from the "dying" hdd to my other hdd and it's xferring at ~8MB00:37
derdonEzro: you should have expected 24 hours00:39
derdonEzro: then you see "Oh, it takes only 10 hours. Great!"00:39
totorolmao00:40
derdon"I'm a white person living in Africa. I guess I can call myself a[n] American-African? " :D00:44
derdonhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?term=African%20American&defid=209499800:45
ScuniziWhat's the key combination for desktop switching?00:49
the_fileI am trying to find the vista like search bar in kde00:50
bodomHi there. I have a problem with audio. Looks like that when kde applications are running, the audio card is not shared with other non-kde applications00:51
pierre_Scunizi  i believe it is crtl+alt+left or right01:03
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liam__Does anyone have any idea why plymouth isn't loading my boot/shutdown splash ?02:07
BitSprocketAnybody know how to configure dolphin to not append :139 to the server name while browsing for smb shares?  If I manually remove :139 it sees the shares properly.02:18
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rsoutharddoes anyone know how to start kde instead of the netbook interface in maverick meerkat?03:55
James147rsouthard: cant say for sure but look at system settings > Workspace > "Workspace type" to "desktop"03:58
James147rsouthard: if not ask in #ubuntu+1 for maverick specific help03:59
rsouthardcool thank you. didnt know there was one dedicated to future release. wrong place. sorry.04:00
James147rsouthard: dosnt matter :) your jsut likly to get better help there (although it is mostly gnome guys :( )04:00
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KBentley57hey04:09
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curtis_is their a global folder where i can install a theme to and set as my default theme?04:13
James147curtis_: theme for what?04:14
curtis_like a kde theme04:14
James147curtis_: plasma theme, kdm theme, icon theme..... need to be more specific04:15
KBentley57Anyone familiar with LTSP?04:16
curtis_ok what im doing is using remastersys so i can backup my kubuntu distro but anything i set up on my desktop like wallpapers screensavers widgit locations ect is set up back to default when i install on another pc04:16
curtis_plasma sorry04:16
curtis_so i was wondering if their was any global folder that i could save that to04:17
curtis_like is their a global file i can edit to tell it to allways load that theme04:18
James147curtis_: for plasma themes i can see /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/  which looks promising04:20
curtis_yes sorry i forgot to tell i allways got my theme their04:21
James147curtis_: /usr/share/wallpapers/ for wallpapers04:21
curtis_<-- not good at explainging what im thinking got 3000000 things at once going on04:21
curtis_what i mean is when i use remastersys to backup and then install it on another computer it goes back to the defualt theme04:22
curtis_what i mean to ask is their any global file i can edit to tell it to use that theme as defualt04:22
James147curtis_: found this: "/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/init/00-defaultLayout.js"  and now i think i remember somewhere that i heard plasma is set up via javascrip files.... so my guess is that that is one of them04:27
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Alanrsoaresteste04:39
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jillsmitti cant install splash screen for kde from system settings -> Appearance -> Splash Screen -> Get New Themes04:49
jillsmittif i start systemsettings with kdesu - the same04:49
ridinsome work, and some don't04:51
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chxhi. how can i change the icon of an app? qmmp and konversation are too close. I am running KDE4.5 (almost)05:41
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john___why kubuntu run so slow on my computer?05:59
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john___why kubuntu run so slow on my computer?06:03
john___can you help me?06:04
john___can anyone help me?06:04
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lucahello everybody, I just installed kopete but my messaging service list is empty07:24
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doktoreasany idea?07:25
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iconmefistoanyone ever notice amarok won't play the last few seconds of the last track in a playlist?08:08
iconmefistocan anyone confirm or disconfirm this?08:10
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jillsmitti am searching kde4 Spline4 splash screen, if you have it, could you please send me it too?09:17
jillsmittbecause on kde-look.org Spline4 is not there any more09:17
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iconmefistojillsmitt: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Spline4?content=122254 this?09:28
jillsmitticonmefisto: yes09:29
jillsmitticonmefisto: i send email to autor, maybe he has it and09:36
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thedoghi guys, i'm in trouble tryng to install kubuntu 10.04 on a toshiba satellite pro u30009:45
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thedogI can choose language at start, and select install kubuntu, than nothing happens, it seems to work but hang on usplash09:46
thedogno one may help me?09:53
cosimo_hi10:10
cosimo_big problem here.... i get smoothly t the KDM, i try to login, just when the sesion spalsh thingy come up, my scren goes black, the purple,  the green then yellow and then     just a bunch of columns of difretet colors. The computer freezes and i end up hacing to reboot manually10:12
cosimo_what could the problem be.... if it was X, wouldn't the kdm be affected too10:13
cosimo_?10:14
iconmefistocosimo_: sounds like a video card driver problem10:17
cosimo_grrrrr....10:17
cosimo_so, id just have to reinstall10:17
cosimo_the driver?10:17
iconmefistocosimo_: try copying /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe as /etc/X11/xorg.conf then reboot and see if you can log in without X problems10:18
iconmefistocosimo_: gotta go now, but if you're still around in about an hour I'd be glad to help you10:19
cosimo_thnak iconmefisto10:19
iconmefistocosimo_: no need to reinstall anything. that wouldn't help anyway10:19
sys32:)10:43
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ivedoneitnowHi. i have a bit of a problem... tried to get plymouth working. i entered two commands. sudo update-alternatives –config default.plymouth, chose a theme, thensudo update-initramfs -u. my pc now wont start im running from live cd.. how do i repair it like disable plymouth and remake my initramfs? help11:07
Mamarokivedoneitnow: do you have your data on a separate partition (the /home folder)?11:20
MamarokThen reinstalling is probaly the easiest way11:21
Mamarokprobably*11:21
Mamarokalso, why did you go through hoops for Plymouth? It ships with 10.0411:22
Mamarokivedoneitnow: I suppose you followed this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/quick-tipplymouth-themes-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html11:23
Mamarokbut you need to do all of the steps, not restart after the first two lines11:24
shivanihello everyone i just installed kubuntu 10.04..could anyone guide me how to install java development kit..?11:24
palandiashivani you can download the jdk from java.com11:25
shivani@palandia isnt it available through any repos11:26
Mamarokshivani: install this package: openjdk-6-jdk11:26
Mamarokunless you want the subn java, then it is sun-java-jdk11:27
Mamaroksun*11:27
Mamarokactually sun-java6-jdk11:27
shivani@Mamarok yea wanted sun java11:27
ivedoneitnowmamarok: hah yes thats what i did11:27
shivanilemme jus try11:27
Mamarokivedoneitnow: you need to have a theme installed that is working, else you won't see anything11:27
palandia@shivani sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk11:28
Mamarokand put a delay to the framebuffer, else you will not seen anything at all11:28
Mamarokpalandia: we usually don't recommend to install packages from an outside source if those are in the repos11:28
shivani@palandia Package sun-java6-jdk is not available11:28
Mamarokas they are compiled to fit11:28
Mamarokshivani: you probalby don't have the repo activated for it, let me check11:29
shivanii have main,universe,restricted and multiverse ticked11:29
palandia@Mamarok ok sorry but in my experience to have he latest jdk i always downloaded it from java.com but it is true.... repos com first in this irc channel ;)11:29
Mamarokshivani: you need to activate the partner repository, check your repository settings, do you use kpackagekit?11:30
shivani@Mamarok yes11:30
shivani@Mamarok is it the ubuntu lucid partner one11:30
Mamarokthen go to the settings, you will be able to check the partner repository in the "Other software" tab11:30
Mamarokshivani: update your sources, then it should show up11:31
palandia@Mamarok this is what apt-cache search jdk said to me: openjdk-6-dbg - Java runtime based on OpenJDK (debugging symbols)11:31
palandiaopenjdk-6-demo - Java runtime based on OpenJDK (demos and examples)11:31
palandiaopenjdk-6-doc - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK) documentation11:31
palandiaopenjdk-6-jdk - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK)11:31
palandiaopenjdk-6-jre - OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT11:31
FloodBotK2palandia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:31
palandiaopenjdk-6-jre-headless - OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT (headless)11:31
Mamarokpalandia: please do not do that11:31
Mamarokalso it makes no sense, we already know which package we need11:31
Mamarokpalandia: did you read what I said above? It is in the partner repository, so please do not flood the channel11:32
shivani@Mamarok yes shows and installing..Thanks buddy..11:32
Mamarokshivani: you are welcome :)11:33
SandGorgonwhat is a GUI-based tool to configure iptables in KDE ?11:33
palandia@Mamarok ok ok just trying to help but i am learning dont get mad with me pls....11:33
Mamarokshivani: just be aware that you now have two differnet Javas on your system11:33
shivani@Mamarok How so..?11:34
Mamarokpalandia: well, macke sure you know what you are doing first :)11:34
Mamarokhelping is not doing wild guesses11:34
Mamarokmake*11:34
Mamarokshivani: as the default java is openjava, not sun java11:34
Mamarokand openjava is already installed, especially if you have OpenOffice installed11:34
palandiayes sir11:35
palandia:P11:35
shivani@Mamarok i just uninstalled openoffice..11:35
shivani@Mamarok and also do they interfere with each other11:35
Mamarokshivani: they might. Usually there is no need to have the sun java, openjava does pretty much the same11:35
MamarokSandGorgon: kmyfirewall is a GUI tool11:36
Mamarokpalandia: I am not a sir :)11:36
palandialol11:36
SandGorgonMamarok, it doesnt seem to have been updated since 200811:36
shivani@Mamarok aware of that but i jus joined a java development course and they use sun java..11:36
Mamarok!firewall11:37
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.11:37
shivani@Mamarok could i safely remove openjava through kpackagekit11:37
MamarokSandGorgon: I don't use a GUI tool, check Guarddog11:37
Mamarokshivani: if you have the sun java installed that should work, but check if it does not try to remove other parts11:38
Mamarokshivani: you can still refuse the removal if you see it tries to remove other important parts11:38
shivani@Mamarok ok..will try after this installation finishes..11:39
Mamarokshivani: java is a language that works likely the same in both development kits, I doubt that makes a difference11:39
shivani@Mamarok yes i suppose so but i dont want any excuses from my teacher for not solving my queries citing that i don use sun java11:40
Mamarokshivani: understandable :)11:40
shivani@Mamarok buddy one more thing..Openoffice supports all the Microsoft office formats but renders them a bit differently11:41
shivani@Mamarok any way to solve that11:41
Mamarokshivani: ask Microsoft to open their specifications, that is the only way11:41
Mamarokshivani: but since they don't, it is hard to have an absolute parity in the documents11:42
shivani@Mamarok wat i mean is that when create a docx file on win it stays on 4 pages..when i open in openoffice it extends to 5..page numbers go to other pages11:42
shivanietc..etc..11:42
Mamarokshivani: check if there are unnecessary lines11:42
shivani@Mamarok lol..i'll surely talk to bill bout this when he comes over for my party saturday night..11:43
Mamarokshivani: I understand what you mean, but again, this is not the fault of OpenOffice.org, but Microsoft doesn't disclose their specifications, and if it is a recent MS Office it is even worse, they don't respect their own OOXML specifications11:43
shivani@Mamarok nope there arent any extra lines..11:44
palandiashivani: on my exprience i rather use page breaks instead of "enter" blank lines between pages to port docs from msoffice and ooffice if it helps you11:44
shivani@Mamarok well everyone in my college uses msoffice so i am forced to use it too..11:44
Mamarokyep, activate the "show all characters" and you should see the extras added11:44
Mamarokshivani: no, you are not forced at all, you can use OpenOffice, the line breaks are not really a problem to remove11:45
Mamarokor page breaks11:45
Mamarokand tell the others instead of spending money on MS products or worse, downloading illegal copies is not a good way, they could all use OpenOffice, no? It is free :)11:46
Mamarokand it exists for Windows as well11:46
shivani@Mamarok it is..but people dont like change from what i gather11:47
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Mamarokand tell the teachers that there are free and open alternatives that work as well as the proprietary stuff does11:47
MisterioMamarok: OpenOffice is better than Office, but, to use Office you must pay, so people think it's better...11:47
Mamarokshivani: well, you would be astonished, sometimes they just don't know it exists11:47
MamarokMisterio: which is silly11:47
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MamarokMisterio: it is full of bugs and security flaws11:48
MisterioMamarok: That's the biggest problem, people think "who will do free software for people?"11:48
Mamarokand sometimes you have to wait years till something gets fixed11:48
MisterioMamarok: Yes, I don't use that s*** :P11:48
MamarokMisterio: well, that's where we come in, we show them the alternatives, spread the Kubuntu love :)11:48
MisterioMamarok: I only have free and open software in my PC (except. codecs)11:49
slow-motionhi11:49
Mamarokhi slow-motion11:49
shivani@Mamarok well will try again when college opens..if i could get them to shift to linux too.probably 75 computers still running pirated winxp..11:49
palandiaMisterio: very good for your PC!11:49
Misteriopalandia: heh :)11:50
Mamarokshivani: which is quite dangerous, ask Canonical for Kubuntu 0.04 LTS CDs for the college, so they all get a copy11:50
shivani@Mamarok problem that we were not expecting has occurred - /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java6-jre_6.20dlj-1ubuntu3_all.deb11:50
slow-motionhi Mamarok11:50
Mamarokshivani: or talk to your LoCo Team, they can help, too11:50
Mamarokshivani: could you please pastebin the whole error? Is this when installing or removing?11:51
shivaniinstallin sun-java6-sdk11:51
shivani@Mamarok it was this much only11:52
Mamarokshivani: you did this with kpavckagekit, right? to have the full error printing you need to close kpackagekit and run sudo apt-get install sun-java6-sdk again in a terminal11:52
shivaniinstallin sun-java6-jdk11:52
Mamarok-jdk*11:52
Mamarokthen you can see the complete output11:52
shivani@Mamarok ok..doin that11:52
Mamarokand please use a pastebin:11:53
Mamarok!paste11:53
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:53
shivani@Mamarok completed successfully11:54
Mamarokshivani: nice :)11:55
shivani@Mamarok strange..11:55
shivani@Mamarok but definitely nice..;)11:55
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Mamarokt nice it completed nonetheless11:56
Mamarokbut*11:57
shivani@Mamarok yup..11:57
shivani@Mamarok when i installed i got a screen saying i could install extras11:58
shivani@Mamarok i cancelled..where could i start that again11:58
Mamarokshivani: it suggested additional packages I guess, do aptitude show sun-java6-jdk, it should list additional packages11:59
shivani@Mamarok checkin..12:00
Mamarokshivani: or maybe it was just suggesting updates12:03
shivani@Mamarok it was suggestin restricted packages i think12:03
Mamarokcould be, yes, but those should also show as suggested when you do the aptitude show command12:03
shivani@Mamarok cant say..packagekit has the lock right now12:04
Mamarokshivani: Suggests: sun-java6-demo, openjdk-6-doc, sun-java6-source12:05
Mamarokyou can run aptitude show without sudo12:05
shivani@Mamarok showing none right now..12:05
Mamarokshivani: is kpackagekit still running?12:06
shivani@Mamarok yup..12:06
Mamarokah, OK, I thought you had closed it12:07
shivani@Mamarok thanks again buddy..system totally ready for use..12:39
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shivanihello..small problem i made the panel next to clock disappear..12:47
shivanianyway i could get it back12:48
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sippickdoes anyone ever talk in the channels12:49
ivedoneitnowhi. somehow i managed to screw up my kernel and couldnt boot up, and had to revert to a previos version to boot up with. is there a way to re-install the kernel that i screwed up so it works properly again? thanks.12:59
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iconmefistoivedoneitnow: are you running from livecd now? or booted from an older kernel?13:15
ivedoneitnowiconmefisto: older kernel, but my newer kernel did work before13:16
iconmefistoto reinstall it: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.32-24-generic (or whichever kernel version you are reinstalling)13:17
ivedoneitnowiconmefisto: i think you may have just solved all my probelms in one shot13:23
ivedoneitnowiconmefisto: and as funny as it is that was the exact version that you put that i wanted to reinstall13:24
iconmefistoivedoneitnow: that's the latest one I have. I figured it's the most recent one for most others too13:26
Ivo_linkhi! Can someone give me hand... I just installed kubuntu, and iḿ trying to modify a file with Kate, but it wont let me save the edited file saying the file is read only, and when i try to change the permission, the options aren't activated so i can't change anything which is odd 'cause i'm running with root...13:34
Ivo_linki'm new in this.13:34
MisterioIvo_link: Use sudo kate13:35
Ivo_linki did13:35
Ivo_linkand it said13:35
Ivo_linkNo protocol specified13:35
Ivo_linkkate: cannot connect to X server :0.013:35
Misterioand "chmod +rw"?13:36
Ivo_linksay what? :) translate me that one, could you?13:36
MisterioGo to folder in which is that file and do "chmod +rw file"13:37
Ivo_linkhmm...ok,just a minute13:37
Ivo_linknothing happened13:38
Ivo_linkit's okay13:41
Ivo_linki got13:41
Ivo_linkit13:41
Ivo_linkone more thing13:41
FloodBotK2Ivo_link: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.13:41
Ivo_linki used ubuntu... is there like a software center for kubuntu? the "synaptic" itś a bit tricky...13:42
shivanihey everyone i by mistake removed the tray..how can i get it back..?13:43
blainpersonalize panel13:44
MisterioIvo_link: I don't know, I normally use apt-get13:44
blainapt-get or synaptic are the best13:45
shivani@blain if that was for me i didnt get it..13:45
MisterioCLI rlz13:45
blainshivani right click on the bar13:46
jussishivani: right click the desktop, add widgets13:46
blainwhat options do you get13:46
blainMisterio indeed13:46
jussiIvo_link: no, not yet.13:47
shivani@blain then..13:47
jussiI do believe its being worked on.13:47
Ivo_linkhmmm....ok. guess i'll just get used to it. but installing or removing something will automatically affect the dependencys (i think thats how u spell it, i'm portuguese...)13:47
blain(13:46:30) (blain) what options do you get13:47
blainIvo_link o que?13:47
blaindependencies*13:47
Ivo_linklol13:47
Ivo_linkok13:47
jussi!pt | Ivo_link13:47
ubottuIvo_link: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.13:47
Ivo_linkinstala as dependências automaticamente?13:48
blainsure13:48
blaindon't even worry about that13:48
Ivo_linkok13:48
jussiif you need portuguese please use the pt channeö13:48
blainunless you force to skip the dependencies13:48
Ivo_linkhmmm13:48
blainbut by default it will13:48
blainunless a package is needed by another13:49
blainit will stay and it won't be removed13:49
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Ivo_linkwell, i want to install wine... and appears a bunch a packages along with...how do i know which one to install?13:49
blainthose are dependencies13:49
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blainyou need to accept apt choice13:50
Ivo_linkso, by adding one, the rest (the logical ones, or needed) will install to no matter which one i install right?13:50
blaindifferent packages have different dependencies13:51
blainso dependencies change13:51
blainsometimes a package might not have any dependencies13:51
blainyou just gotta watch, if apt requires packages to be removed13:52
blainwhen installing13:52
blainthat is13:52
Ivo_linkhmmm...ok blain, thanks for all the help. u 2 misterio. if i'll need help i will boder you some more :)13:53
blainbother*13:54
Ivo_linklol13:54
Ivo_linkright13:54
Ivo_linkthanks13:54
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Ivo_linkBlain, how about some more help? :) up to it?14:11
blain!pm14:16
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Ivo_linklol jeezz sorry...14:18
Ivo_linkok... i cant access startup configuration.14:19
Ivo_linki mean, i can, but theres nothing i can change...14:19
Ivo_linkhow can this be possible?14:19
Ivo_linkanyone...?14:22
blainwhich configuration14:23
blainsystem settings?14:23
Ivo_linkyes14:23
Ivo_linkfile"desktop" doesn't show anything....14:24
blainthe desktop folder?14:24
Ivo_linksystem configuration/startup14:25
Ivo_linkhe thing that helps me to change the automatic dtart of programs14:25
Ivo_linkthe14:25
TorchIvo_link: what are you actually trying to do? what's the problem you want to solve?14:27
Ivo_linkTorch....iḿ trying to stop some programs to iniciate at startup14:28
TorchIvo_link: for example?14:28
Ivo_linkindexing / print /bluetooth / and i know theres a few more background running14:29
TorchIvo_link: those are not programs, those are services.14:29
Ivo_linkor that...i want to do this because i'm noticing that kubuntu is quite slower then ubuntu. So i'm trying to speed it up...(if it works)14:30
blainchkconfig cups off14:31
TorchIvo_link: you can disable file indexing in the strigi configuration in system settings14:31
TorchIvo_link: bluetooth i'm not sure, i'm not at my notebook right now.14:31
blainps aux | grep tooth14:31
TorchIvo_link: but whether that is running or not (the KDE bluetooth service) will not have much effect on overall performance14:32
blainexactly14:32
Ivo_linkthe strange thing is that on ubuntu, it showed all the services...14:32
Ivo_linkblain...cups off?14:32
TorchIvo_link: you migh perceice KDE as "slower" because it's different. it also does a hell of a lot more than gnome, so that takes its toll, too, of course.14:32
Ivo_linkit is slower...graphically14:34
Ivo_linkwindows drag and stuff...14:34
TorchIvo_link: turn off desktop effects if your card or driver aren't up to it.14:34
Ivo_linkhmmm...i dont have any effects. At least i don't think so... just normal window behaviour.what is chkconfig cups off?14:36
James147Ivo_link: If you looking to speed up the rendering of windows you could `try` launghing the program (qt/kde programs only) with the "--graphicssystem raster" flag... might not make any difference14:37
Ivo_linkeven browsing pages up and down, it drags...14:39
Ivo_linkit's quite a difference. But i have no doubt that k. its better than U. Torch14:39
Ivo_linkso, about the services...how can i change them?14:40
Ivo_linkand blain, could you tell what cups is?14:40
James147Ivo_link: cups is the printer server14:41
Ivo_linkoh..14:41
Ivo_linkthanks james14:41
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uneivihi15:49
uneivisomeone there?15:50
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uneivisomebody...15:51
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James147uneivi: yup,15:51
khaije|amaltwhats the simplest dlna media server available for linux15:51
uneivii don't know15:52
khaije|amalti'm looking for something that i can use for maybe a week15:52
uneivijust for a week...for what?15:52
uneivipuffs15:53
khaije|amaltjust streaming to my tv until i get my multimedia virtual server set back up15:53
uneivioh!15:53
khaije|amalti think i'll just try mediatomb, i've heard lots of good about it15:54
uneivicool15:54
uneivitry it15:55
uneiviwhat is your OS?15:56
uneivi...15:57
uneiviwell i guess i go15:59
uneivii do not understanding this...15:59
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psynauticanyone know why kde keeps defaulting dvi-1 to be clone of dvi-0 at startup instead of right of dvi-0 like i set it to?16:04
James147psynautic: stating which video driver you are using would help :)16:13
psynauticradeon16:13
Scunizi*everytime* I boot Akonadi and Kontact crash.  Kontact because Akonadi is having issues.....16:17
TorchScunizi: pastebin a backtrace16:18
ScuniziTorch: when Akonadi crashes and I try to report a bug, it says it needs the debug symbols.. so trying to install that results in "non found for Akonadi" which doesn't make sense to me/.16:19
TorchScunizi: install the package akonadi-dbg16:20
ScuniziTorch: ok16:20
ScuniziIt's doing it via cli using apt-get.. nice to see.. ok.. installed.. how do I initiate a backtrace?16:21
TorchScunizi: you get it once it crashes, in the crash handler that pop up16:22
ScuniziTorch: ah ok.. I'll have to shutdown and restart to get it to fail again.  I'll be back in a minute.16:23
TorchScunizi: just running it won't make it crash?16:23
ScuniziTorch.. no.. my normal startup routine is when Akonadi presents 3-4 crash windows I hit cancel until they are all done. Quit Akonadi, Quit Kontact, Restart Akonadi.... wait... restart Kontact .. then everything is ok.16:25
TorchScunizi: i see16:25
ScuniziTorch: I suspect it's the connection I've made to google for the calendar and contact resource16:25
ScuniziBut I'm not really sure..16:26
TorchScunizi: and there's no networking at that point because of network manager... that makes some sense, agreed.16:26
ScuniziTorch: to a point.. I uninstalled network-manager because it didn't cooperate with setting a static IP address and installed Wi-cd instead.. so you may be correct in that the network isn't up until after akonadi is started..16:27
TorchScunizi: hmm, aha. well, make a backtrace, maybe that offers some hints.16:28
ScuniziTorch: ok.. I"ll be back in a minute16:28
* slow-motion juhu16:30
ScuniziTorch: strange.. I did a cold boot and Akonadi started with no errors this time.. and Kontact didn't error... however Kontact reports "Akonadi not operational" when clicking the "Contacts" tab.. so there is no connection between the two like there should be normally.  Errors presented when clicking details shows Akonadi Server self-test and  "No resource agents found", "Previous Akonadi server error log found", and "Current Akonadi control16:34
Scunizi error log found."16:34
TorchScunizi: you know this page: http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_4.4/Troubleshooting16:35
ScuniziTorch: nope.. I"ll look.16:35
ScuniziTorch: is 4.4 what is in 10.04?16:36
TorchScunizi: yes, as any kde app's help->about will tell you ;-)16:37
ScuniziTorch: DOH!  should have remembered that.16:37
SDuensinAnyone here ever make bluetooth audio work in 10.04?  The more I read, the more confused I get.  :-(16:37
SDuensinI replaced kbluetooth with blueman and was able to pair my headset (Jabra BT3030).  I can't for the life of me get sound out of it though.16:38
ScuniziTorch: well .. with the issue on this latest reboot the link says that it's an unsolved issued when contacts don't show up.. they are hoping to have a fix soon. :(16:39
TorchScunizi: sounds bad :-(16:39
SDuensinHow does audio work in KDE anyway?  What's the default audio server?  Do I need to manually install Pulse?16:40
ArGGu^^SDuensin I dont have any experience of bluetooth sound, but have change the default sound card?16:40
SDuensinI've yet to find a way to change sound cards.  Apparently my system thinks I only have one.16:40
TorchSDuensin: KDE uses phonon as multimedia backend. phonon is an API that can make use of several backends. among the possible backends are pulse audio, gstreamer and vlc.16:41
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ArGGu^^I think it should detect your bluetooth device as another sound device16:41
SDuensinAhhhhhhh - ok, that's what Phonon is.  I think all I have to choose from is "Xine".16:41
TorchSDuensin: that's another one. a very popular one, too.16:42
TorchSDuensin: backend, i mean.16:42
SDuensinRight, but blueman expects pulse, I believe.16:42
SDuensinSo that'd explain a few things.  :-)16:42
SDuensinNow just to figure out how to add it.16:44
ArGGu^^SDuensin http://www.hyperblog.de/hoergen.php/2010/06/28/bluetooth_a2dp_unter_kubuntu_10_0416:44
ArGGu^^It is german but maybe it could help16:45
SDuensinThanks ArGGu^^ - the URL sounds very promising.  Trying to load it.  :-)16:46
SDuensinI got Google Translate.  :-)16:48
ArGGu^^:)16:48
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SDuensinWow.  He's even using the same headset I have.  Very nice find!16:51
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oxymoronHow do you isntall Java, I cannot make it work and openjdk sucks, and restricted-extras is installed. Base problem is that BankID doesnt work on Nexus Linux Peronsal16:52
troopperiadd lucid partner repos16:52
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troopperiand install  sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin16:54
oxymorontroopperi: ppa?16:54
troopperibefore that uninstall everythin else javas16:55
oxymorontroopperi: Yes of course ;) But ppa url or ppa:*?16:55
troopperiits found -kpackagekit ->settings->edit software sources16:56
troopperithen refresh16:56
oxymorontroopperi: Yeah found it now, thought I already had it :P16:56
psynauticis there a bug with radeon not remembering dual monitor setup? it always defaults to dvi-1 cloning dvi-016:56
oxymorontroopperi: Uhm, which packages to remove first? Is it enough remove openjdk libraries?16:56
SDuensinArGGu^^: Perfect!  Almost blew my eardrums out when it started up!   Thanks!16:57
troopperioxymoron: i think so16:57
ArGGu^^SDuensin good to hear :D16:58
* SDuensin loves this OS.16:59
Torchpsynautic: i think you need krandrtray running on startup for that to work (but i don't have that setup, so i can't really be sure)17:03
troopperioxymoron: did you get it?17:05
ScuniziIs PowerDevil .. a laptop power management daemon needed or do anything on a desktop install?17:05
TorchScunizi: it's mostly for notebooks, yes.17:06
oxymorontroopperi: Yeah but BankID doesnt work17:06
ScuniziTorch: will it change any operation on a desktop install if I disable it as a service?17:06
TorchScunizi: it's used for reboot and shutdown, but both should still work without it (using alternative backends then)17:06
troopperitry to konsole, lik this 1. sudo aptitude remove openjdk-6-jre sun-java6-jre  2. sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre 3. sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin17:07
ScuniziTorch: so it's probably not a good idea to disable if you're not using alternative backends (I'm not aware of what those alternatives are to install or look for).17:07
oxymorontroopperi: Ah the plugin isnt installed xD17:07
troopperi:)17:08
TorchScunizi: no, KDE should pick an alternative itself.17:08
TorchScunizi: just disable it and try to reboot. it will probably just work.17:08
psynauticthanks torch, ill check that out17:08
ScuniziTorch: ah cool.. I was actually looking to disable kbluetooth on startup as I don't need it and found that service... but still haven't figured a way to stop kbluetooth.. yet.17:09
ScuniziTorch: I might have figured out why Akonadi fails in my circumstance on a cold boot.. looking in Hardware under System Settings where it describes the Network Management Backend.... NetworkManager 0.7 was first on the list and Wicd second.. perhaps by moving wicd to the top of the list the network will come up faster..17:12
oxymorontroopperi: Hmm now it seems like BankID and CSN (Study grant in Sweden) complains that Firefox hasnt javascript activated, but it is xD17:13
troopperioxymoron: do you restart your firefox17:13
oxymorontroopperi: I hate this, Same freaking problem everytime I need to reinstall bankID on Linux. WOuld be nice having sudo apt-get install nexus-personal and then it just WORKS.17:14
oxymorontroopperi: Nope, but will do now ;)17:14
oxymorontroopperi: Hmm doesnt work now either, even after the restart. It cannot find BankID. I dont remember what was the problem last time. There was some tiny little extra part with Nexus Peronsal to fix I think afterwards the installation provided by Nexus.17:15
troopperioxymoron: yeah, i understand... what say when you write to addresline about:plugins17:15
troopperiat firefox17:16
oxymorontroopperi: That java is installed and activated. But I cannot find anything regarding BankID. Oh I think I need to manually add the plugin to firefox for BankID to make it works, so freaking annoying xD I dont remember what do do either :P17:16
troopperiok :D17:17
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oxymoronSeems like the problem is that Firefox have dynamic library path which make it impossible for Nexus Personal to install libplugins.so to correct foldder :P17:24
txwikingerhi Stratford17:26
Stratfordhi17:26
Stratfordi'm new to linux17:26
Stratfordand command line stuff17:26
Stratfordjust trying to get to a level of full understanding17:27
Stratfordaccording to arthur griffith's video tutorial i have done the partitioning on a floppy17:27
Stratfordas you would have seen http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/464566/17:27
txwikingeryes17:27
Stratfordbut cannot seem to put the fs on the partions17:28
txwikingerWhy do you need partitions on your floppy?17:29
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Stratfordgosh17:29
Stratforddoes it matter17:29
txwikingerwell.. it is an unusual thing17:29
Stratfordlike i said.. i'm new to this17:29
Stratfordand trying to practice on floppy17:30
txwikingerI think the necessary device files are not created automatically17:30
Stratfordcheap way to do things17:30
txwikingerthat is why you get the error message17:30
Stratfordwell i tried adding some lines in fstab17:30
TorchStratford: floppy disks do not have partition tables17:30
Stratfordlike someone suggested17:30
James147Stratford: adding line to /etc/fstab willl only affect mounting of the drive, not partition of it in anyway (that has to be done when its not mounted)17:31
txwikingerNo.. fstab mounts existing device files to your filesystem tree17:31
Stratfordi can create/save/see files/dir but cannot access the partitions individually17:31
txwikingerYou need to have the right device files in the /dev directory17:32
Stratfordwell .. i was trying this  "sudo mount /dev/fd0p1 /mnt" but it doesn't work17:32
txwikingerA device file is a sort of pseudo file that tells the kernel how to find your hardware17:32
txwikinger/dev/fd0p1 does not exist17:32
txwikingerso you cannot mount it anywhere17:33
txwikingerit must exist first and have the right information in it17:33
Stratfordso you mean the partitions i created do not exist?17:33
TorchStratford: floppy disks do not have partition tables17:33
txwikingerwell.. the partition exists on your floppy17:33
StratfordTorch, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/464566/17:33
txwikingerTorch: you can write a partition table on a floppy17:34
Stratfordi did the partprobe thingy as well17:34
txwikingerThe problem is that for a disk we create the necessary device files, for a floppy we don;t17:34
Stratfordbut i'm using a live cd17:34
Torchtxwikinger: you can write a partition table anywhere.17:35
Stratfordso you are saying that it cannot be done?17:35
oxymoronFreaking difficult to make BankID to work on a amd64 bit system I must say. You need to manually activate BankID plugin with npwrapper17:35
txwikingerStratford: I have to go to a meeting.. I will do some research .. maybe I find something17:35
txwikingerping me later17:35
Stratfordtxwikinger, thanks.. can i request something?17:35
Stratfordif you have a floppy can you duplicate what i have done and then try to see if you can put a file system on the partitions17:36
Stratfordarthur griffiths video tutorials does this on a floppy17:37
Stratfordbut his following two videos he uses another example but chats about mounting the partitions individually and doing the mkfs17:37
Stratfordtxwikinger, ?17:38
Stratfordi guess you have gone to your meeting17:38
StratfordTorch, are you there?17:39
TorchStratford: what are you trying to achieve with all this?17:39
TorchStratford: yes. and wondering what this is good for.17:39
Stratfordok hear me out17:39
Stratfordi'm coming from a windoz world.. so i've just started learning all this linux and love it17:40
Stratfordi don't want to go back to windoz17:40
Stratfordbut i also support a lot of windoz folks voluntarily17:40
Stratfordand they have old hardware17:40
Stratfordsome don't even have cd rom17:40
Stratfordso i went through art griffiths video tutorial here http://www.vtc.com/products/Introduction-to-Linux-tutorials.htm17:41
Stratfordand he does things on a floppy17:41
ScuniziIs there an easy way to sort the Kmenu ?  As I add programs they don't end up in alphabetical order.....17:41
Stratfordif you get a chance to see the fdisk tut and the 2 after that you will see that he manages to do it17:42
TorchStratford: still pointless.17:42
Stratfordso i am practicing this on a floppy17:42
StratfordTorch, it maybe pointless on your end17:43
TorchStratford: partition tables on floppy disks are pointless.17:43
Stratfordbut some folks don't have the resources to get new hardware etc17:43
TorchStratford: they still don't need partition tables on floppies then17:43
TorchStratford: you're aware you can just _use_ the floppy without partitioning it?17:43
StratfordTorch, i don't think you see th epoint17:44
Stratfordyes.. but they have windoz17:44
TorchStratford: apparently not. what _is_ the point?17:44
Stratfordso i was thinking of getting to a level where i am comfortable in linux17:45
Stratfordfor myself and others and transition17:45
Stratfordit's like crossing a stream but having one foot on either bank17:46
TorchStratford: i see, but you won't really need to partition floppies in any case. or use fdisk directly, which is really a tool for experts.17:46
ScuniziStratford: I also don't see the point of partitioning a floppy even on old hardware with windows.. is it just for practice or what?17:46
Stratfordthe floppy will make me comfortable to play around and then risk the hd17:46
Scuniziso practice..17:47
TorchStratford: if you just want to practice using fdisk, try the scsi_debug module.17:47
Stratfordnever mind17:47
James147Stratford: or create a file and practice on that :)17:48
Stratfordi'm a point between where i can transition a lot of folks to linux but this kind of solution will keep them on windoz17:48
TorchStratford: not being able to partition floppies using fdisk?17:48
TorchStratford: what kind of weird advanced pro users are those? ;-)17:49
StratfordJames147, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/464566/17:49
StratfordTorch, thanks for your help17:49
whysoseriousHI, and welcome to this episode of the OSGUI tech show17:49
Stratfordi have spelt out the tale of two cities here and you are still asking me the same ?17:50
whysoseriousWas that his IP?17:50
whysoseriousCom'on... Are you dating on private conversation?17:52
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realmatthow easy is it to watch a blueray movie in ubuntu/kubuntu?18:19
Andrew9how can i add a user to samba share?18:20
Andrew9user/password for access18:20
ScuniziAndrew9: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html.18:30
Andrew9Scunizi: The requested URL /6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html. was not found on this server.18:30
ScuniziAndrew9: sorry looks like I inadvertantly added a "period" at the end of the url.. remove that and refresh18:31
Andrew9Scunizi: i've read all manuals but it still doesn't work18:31
Andrew9Scunizi: user name works only without password18:32
Andrew9Scunizi: if i set password i cannot access it anymore18:32
Andrew9Scunizi: password just won't work18:32
ScuniziAndrew9: one of the users you add to samba has to also have an account on your machine.. so add yourself first then then others..18:32
Andrew9Scunizi: i have done it18:32
Andrew9Scunizi: when i add myself in samba options it makes no changes18:33
ScuniziAndrew9: /join #samba ... samba can be finiky depending on how you've setup smb.conf18:33
Andrew9Scunizi: i open samba settings and the user list is empty18:33
Scunizidid you create a /etc/samba/smbpasswd file?18:34
ScuniziAndrew9: here's an example of my smb.conf file.... "#" comments out the line making it ineffective. http://pastebin.com/5S3zUDmQ18:36
ScuniziAndrew9: although I haven't read it all here's a more recent how to with samba http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-10.04-samba-standalone-server-with-tdbsam-backend18:37
Andrew9Scunizi: ok thanks18:37
TorchAndrew9: setting up samba correctly is _hard_ ;-)18:37
Andrew9Torch: i just want to have one public folder and a few password protected ones18:38
* Scunizi can prove that with his new shiny dome after pulling all his hair out the last time.18:38
TorchAndrew9: it's still hard ;-) you'll eventually make it, but expect a frustrating experience... ;-)18:38
ScuniziAndrew9: I still have to restart the smbd service after reboot or cold start to get the shares to be recognized by the windows machines in my LAN18:39
Andrew9Torch: the thing i hate the most is that it just doesn't work18:40
TorchAndrew9: heh,  yeah. if you can get away with it, use NFS or SFTP18:40
Andrew9Torch: in the gui for example i add users after Apply-close the list is empty just like nothing happened18:40
TorchAndrew9: i have no experience with that GUI... i suggest following a tutorial and editing the files in /etc/samba directly.18:41
ScuniziAndrew9: that may be part of what's happening.. to really setup samba *don't* use a gui.. that's a limited app.18:41
Tazzypillarhello, does anyone know why I keep having the plasma desktop of my system show up in my smoothtasks widget somehow?18:42
ScuniziAND don't try ebox or the other web based configuration utility.. just eats resources, confusing etc.18:42
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uneivihi there...21:11
uneivisomeone there?!21:11
uneivisomeone knows another chat that i can use?21:12
uneivinobody talk21:13
uneivii don't understand it21:14
uneiviei alguem ai do brasil?21:14
uneivinesuno?!21:15
uneiviaffs21:15
uneiviahhhhahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh21:16
uneivipuffs21:16
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uneivi...21:16
uneivi........................afffffffffffffsssssssssssss21:17
likeampbuenas soy nuevo alguien me puede alludar21:41
likeampalgo eh leido sobre kubuntu21:41
likeamppero nesesito activar los drivers de nvidia para ubuntu 9.1021:41
likeampsi es posible ?21:41
well_laid_lawn!pt21:41
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.21:41
likeampkubuntu perdon21:42
well_laid_lawnor ask in english pls :]21:42
likeamphi im newie im reading tutorials on kubuntu and is not easy for me install the drivers for my nvidia21:43
likeampany one halp21:43
well_laid_lawn!nvidia21:43
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:43
likeampthx boy21:43
well_laid_lawnwhat's this   boy   crap! ;]21:44
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josh2k10hey22:23
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ridinhow do i change kwin's style23:49
James147ridin: System settings > Appearance > Window decoration or something (cant remember the exact name)23:53
bewofthei would like to turn off mouse gesture please23:54
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cuzntthats better.23:55
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