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rCXHey guys do you think this bug should be reopened because of the last 2 comments?05:05
rCXhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsoup2.4/+bug/37264705:05
ubot2Launchpad bug 372647 in libsoup2.4 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Clock and Weather applet don't show any weather info (affects: 8) (dups: 2) (heat: 60)" [Low,Fix committed]05:05
pittiGood morning05:23
TheMusoHey pitti.05:36
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didrocksgood morning06:52
didrocksjcastro: what do you mean "not working"? It has no menu, so I guess that's why appmenu doesn't display anything06:53
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didrocksfta: hey, will you put this switch on (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/plXWkjG-jvs/chrome-dev-channel-adds-gnome-keyring.html) ?07:21
RAOFdidrocks, fta: Oooh, cool.  Yes please :)07:54
and471morning all07:54
didrocksRAOF: especially the --detect seems safe for all environment07:54
didrockshey and47107:55
didrocksRAOF: how are you? when do you live to Prague?07:55
RAOF“Live to Prague”.  I like it :)07:55
RAOFI'm flying out tomorrow morning.07:55
RAOFI get into Prague at the same time as Luke, and 5 minutes after Robert.07:56
and471didrocks, hi07:56
and471RAOF, when is the sprint?07:56
RAOFNext week / never (if you're a stickler for the “Platform Rally” rebranding ;))07:57
didrocksleave*07:57
didrocksgrrr, this is the morning and I'm already tired it seems :)07:57
TheMusoheh07:57
RAOFdidrocks: Don't worry, there's a week of relaxing work coming :)07:58
didrocksRAOF, TheMuso, robert_ancell: have a safe trip07:58
TheMusoThanks.07:58
* TheMuso has the vast majority of things packed.07:58
didrocksRAOF: did someone lied to you? :)07:59
RAOFdidrocks: That it's going to be relaxing, or that there's going to be work? :P07:59
* RAOF will start packing after work.07:59
didrocksRAOF: on the relax part ;)08:00
RAOF:)08:01
* didrocks upgrades his netbook to maverick now that RMLL is finished08:02
ftadidrocks, RAOF: those are runtime switches. See /etc/chromium-browser/default08:06
didrocksfta: right, but this file is shipped by chromium package, right?08:07
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and471kiwinote, hi08:24
kiwinotemorning and47108:24
and471kiwinote, you know where mvo is?08:28
kiwinoteand471, no I don't sorry08:29
and471np08:29
and471mornin mpt09:05
mpthi and47109:05
mptand471, the gap between the right edge of the review and Summary fields and the right edge of the dialog should be exactly the same as between the right edge of the "Publish" button and the right edge of the dialog.09:05
and471mpt, hehe cool09:06
and471mpt, okay sorted that out09:08
and471mpt, do you have any idea whether this login and review stuff is going to be in for maverick?09:08
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mptand471, mvo and I know that it's important for selling stuff, especially, for people to see what other people think of it. It's mainly a matter of getting the server-side stuff sorted out.09:11
and471mpt, cool thanks09:12
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vishmpt: heya , its friday!!!!!!! :)09:17
vishSC descriptions, docs mail.. needs reply ;)09:21
rickspencer3good morning everyone09:28
seb128hey rickspencer3!09:28
seb128rickspencer3, how are you?09:28
and471rickspencer3, mornin09:29
RAOFGuten morgen, rickspencer309:29
rickspencer3I'm ok09:29
rickspencer3said goodbye to my family this morning, so, a bit lonely09:29
rickspencer3will be better when I see some good friends on Sunday!09:30
* rickspencer3 wipes tear from eye09:30
rickspencer3seb128, how are you doing? ready for the sprint?09:30
seb128I'm fine, sort of ready09:31
didrockshey rickspencer309:31
seb128I didn't start packing or anything but otherwise I'm ready ;-)09:31
seb128rickspencer3, will be great to see you on sunday ;-)09:31
seb128you and everybody else09:31
rickspencer3hi didrocks09:32
rickspencer3didrocks, je voudrais une beer si vous plais09:38
rickspencer3?09:38
rickspencer3^ at all comprehensible?09:38
seb128rickspencer3, you used an english word but I guess most people understand this one ;-)09:39
chrisccoulsoni understand the bit about beer ;)09:39
rickspencer3maybe chrisccoulson has "beer" set to auto-alert in his irc client09:40
* micahg thinks he said "I would like a beer please", but it's 3AM here :)09:40
chrisccoulsonrickspencer3, that's quite a good idea actually ;)09:40
chrisccoulsoni wouldn't want to miss out ;)09:40
chrisccoulsonpitti - micahg said you wanted to talk about bug 53171909:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 531719 in xulrunner-1.9.2 (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 6 other projects) "Eclipse crashes using content assist with libcairo2 1.8.10 (affects: 21) (dups: 4) (heat: 127)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53171909:41
pittichrisccoulson: I followed up in the bug09:42
chrisccoulsonah, i've not read the follow up yet ;)09:42
pittichrisccoulson: I wondered why we don't have xulrunner-1.9.2 conflict/replaces 1.9.1, to clean up the old version09:42
pittiadding the conflict to eclipse seems wrong to me in two different dimenstions09:42
chrisccoulsonpitti - there's no need to. there's no real reason for the 2 versions to conflict (they can co-exist quite happily), and we shouldn't force removal of the old one during the upgrade, as some users might hang on to other xul191 applications we dropped from the archive09:43
chrisccoulsoni think users should keep the choice of whether to remove the obsolete packages09:43
pittibut then users would keep piling up old xulrunner packages09:43
chrisccoulsonand eclipse should be fixed properly to not use xul191, like we've just had to do for the hardy -> karmic backporting09:43
pittiI actually wonder why we version them at all09:44
chrisccoulsonpitti - in future, we may want to not version them09:44
pittichrisccoulson: fix eclipse> ok, but then adding a conflicts: there would also be wrong09:44
chrisccoulsonbut we have to version them for now so that we can have multiple versions installed (ie, when we introduce new versions as a security update, we don't want to have to port the whole archive)09:45
chrisccoulsonpitti - i have another question for you actually09:50
chrisccoulsonif we blacklist an application in apport, does it just stop it from catching crash reports? (ie, can users still submit bugs manually with ubuntu-bug and the apport hook?)09:51
chrisccoulsonwe want to blacklist firefox now09:51
micahgchrisccoulson: are you talking about the crash reporter?09:51
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah09:52
chrisccoulsoni just want to make sure we can disable apport crash reports for firefox09:52
pittichrisccoulson: yes, that only affects crashes09:53
chrisccoulsonpitti - awesome, thanks09:53
pittichrisccoulson: you're talking about /etc/apport/blacklist.d/, right?09:53
chrisccoulsonpitti - yeah, that's what i was referring to09:53
pittichrisccoulson: (because there's another way to avoid reports which also affects bugs)09:54
chrisccoulsonpitti - ah, ok. thanks. we're going to try enabling the firefox crash reporter in the next upload, so our crash reports go directly to mozilla09:55
pittimakes sense indeed09:55
chrisccoulsonare any launchpad guys going to be at the sprint next week?09:55
RAOFI'm pretty sure jml at least will be there.09:56
rickspencer3chrisccoulson, hmm, they are sprinting right now09:57
RAOFIn fact, isn't the launchpad epic being held there right now?09:57
rickspencer3oh, yeah, jml should be there for buy something stuff I think09:57
chrisccoulsonrickspencer3, ah, never mind ;)09:57
chrisccoulsoni can discuss things with them another time09:57
rickspencer3chrisccoulson I've been following bryyce's status, sounds hot there09:57
pittiI demand a new company requirement that team managers buy ice cream for their team every day when it's > 30 degrees09:59
chrisccoulsonis it > 30 degrees then?09:59
chrisccoulsonthat would be awesome!09:59
pittiwasn't yesterday, but had been two weeks long09:59
chrisccoulson(the ice cream would be, the heat not so awesome)09:59
pittiand it's going to be again today, I guess09:59
ftaseb128, hi, /wrt my chromium issue from yesterday, downgrading cairo helped. so it's most probably gtk mis-using the cairo api or something like that10:04
seb128fta, rather chromium mis-using the cairo api no?10:05
ftaseb128, hm, upstream doesn't seem to think chromium is at fault10:05
seb128I doubt GTK guys will change anything without a small testcase showing it's a gtk issue10:06
ftayep, agreed10:06
seb128knowing that gtk and cairo teams work together10:06
seb128and gtk guys tracks cairo changes10:07
tydeasI am having some issues witht the mysql service10:07
tydeasI can not start it up/10:07
seb128I would not be surprised if the bug was rather in chromium10:07
seb128tydeas, hi, wrong channel, try #ubuntu10:07
kiwinotempt, fyi I've just filled in that evaluation10:13
mptkiwinote, so have I10:21
kiwinotempt, great, thanks10:22
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and471mpt, I you are interested http://videobin.org/+1hv/1qy.html (the review button will need to be fixed, it is too big)10:34
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mptand471, hmmmmmm10:41
mptCan you think of a better placement for that error message?10:41
and471mpt, not really I was just following the spec, but I think it is the best place, as all status messages are situated down there10:42
and471mpt, btw just noticed that should have an error icon next to it10:43
mptand471, the difference is, the only error message that appears there is one that will prevent you from submitting the dialog.10:44
mptand471, do we know whether it's the e-mail address or the password that's wrong? Or do we know only that it's either?10:44
and471mpt, I think having them all there is good as it is unintrusive, otherwise you have a dialog on top of a dialog on top of window10:44
mptThat's another option, but far from the only option10:45
and471mpt, we don't know yet, but I want to get it implemented10:45
mptand471, how about just changing the primary text: "The e-mail address or password you entered was not correct. Try again."10:46
and471mpt, I've fixed it so now that error message has an icon10:46
and471mpt, sure, I will do a screenshot of that, though I fear it wil make the dialog too wide10:47
mptand471, either way, the dialog shouldn't get wider during its lifetime.10:48
mpt(Or change width at all, ever, really.)10:48
and471mpt, yes10:48
and471mpt, http://imagebin.org/10553710:49
mptand471, I meant the primary text at the top, not any text in the corner :-)10:49
and471mpt, ah sorry, in addition to the primary text, or in place of?10:50
mptAs in, "To rate and review software, you need an Ubuntu Single Sign-On account." becomes "Your Ubuntu Single Sign-On account details were not correct. Try again."10:50
mptsorry I wasn't clear10:51
and471mpt, no it was my fault, looking back you said primary text :)10:51
and471mpt, another option would be to have it below the email field, as the problem stems form there, and also the email field will be focused after the error10:52
mptand471, that would make sense if we knew whether it was the e-mail address field or the password field that was the problem. But we don't.10:53
and471mpt, I am sure that we can implement that though, it is a simple case of checking for it in the backend10:53
and471mpt, i think we receive an authentication error if the username/password is wrong10:54
and471mpt, an just a general http error if we failed to contact the server10:54
mptsure10:54
mptThat's why I asked if we know whether the problem is with the e-mail address, or the problem is with the password.10:54
mptIf we don't know which it is, the error message shouldn't suggest that we do.10:55
mptEven its placement.10:55
and471mpt, http://imagebin.org/10553910:55
and471mpt, ah I see what you mean, individually which is the problem10:56
and471mpt, no I don't think we will be able to know that10:56
mptand471, nice work10:56
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and471mpt, tell you what instead of me making these assumptions, let me play around with the backend to see what information we can gather10:56
mptok10:57
and471mpt, with my limited testing, I don't think we can differenciate, however I am going to ask the ubuntu sso guys11:09
and471mpt, do you know where mvo is today?11:12
mptand471, no I don't11:12
and471:-(11:13
asacArneGoetje: whats the hostname of the langpack stuff again?11:15
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pittiasac: macquarie11:30
* pitti has a 'langpack' host for that in .ssh/config11:31
seb128bah, some xorg libs are not installable it seems, it's breaking builds11:38
seb128clutter can't be installed on the buildds11:38
seb128kenvandine, could you push your ido changes? seems you forgot to do it11:40
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and471mpt, I have to go now, but I have told the people I am awaiting an answer from to give the answer to you11:55
asacthx pitti11:56
mptthanks and47111:57
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asackenvandine: its so damn slow on startup and hangs regularly in maverick ... what is it?13:34
kenvandineseb128, i pushed them yesterday13:39
kenvandineseb128, lp:ubuntu/ido13:40
kenvandineasac, what's slow on startup?13:40
ograit13:41
ogra:)13:41
kenvandinehehe13:41
seb128kenvandine, hum, it's trying to pull the lucid one for some reason13:41
seb128sorry about the noise13:41
kenvandineah13:41
kenvandineno worries13:41
kenvandinei thought bratsche just finished fixing it for armel, guess he introduced more armel failures13:42
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seb128kenvandine, right13:47
asackenvandine: gwibber13:50
asaci removed the system couchdb13:50
asacit often doesnt startup at all13:50
asacnow wiped all cache etc. to get it going again, but still slow and hangs regularly13:51
kenvandinehow slow?13:51
kenvandineit got way faster right before lucid released... 1.7s on my laptop and 3s on my netbook13:51
kenvandinewhich i still think it too slow13:51
kenvandineasac, the plan is to move to sqlite for maverick13:52
kenvandinebut still waiting for ryan to finish that13:52
asackenvandine: slow == 30 sec13:52
kenvandineyikes13:52
asacthinkpad x6113:53
asacmodel name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     L7700  @ 1.80GHz13:53
hyperairyay sqlite gwibber.13:53
* hyperair can't wait to see the last of desktopcouch13:53
hyperairmiserable memory hogging thing.13:53
asacnow we have to convince others to drop couchdb and soon we can drop the whole mozjs mess from main ;)13:53
asacbeam.smp is bad for my CPU13:54
kenvandineasac, hehe... yeah13:54
asacespecially in summer when heat is dominating the room anyway13:54
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asacseb128: could you sync orc 0.4.6 from debian/unstable ?14:38
asacthx14:38
seb128asac, ok14:38
seb128asac, done14:39
asacrock!14:39
seb128asac, do you need it for something or just review the mir bug?14:40
asacseb128: lol. is there a MIR?14:40
seb128asac, hint hint for the mir bug14:40
asacseb128: we need it because they landed great neon/arm bits after 0.4.514:40
asacseb128: yesterday i was down to almost zero MIRs ... i can process it now if you want14:40
seb128asac, yes, I already promoted it, gstreamer use it instead of liboil14:40
seb128asac, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/orc/+bug/60030014:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 600300 in orc (Ubuntu) "[MIR] orc (affects: 1) (heat: 216)" [Wishlist,New]14:41
asacyeah14:41
asacthough i found just a few minutes ago that debian ignored soname break (same as upstream) ;)14:41
asac-void orc_x86_emit_add_imm_reg (OrcCompiler *compiler, int size, int value, int reg);14:41
asac+void orc_x86_emit_add_imm_reg (OrcCompiler *compiler, int size, int value, int reg, orc_bool record);14:41
asacbut was ok because its not used in archive atm14:41
asacat least they track shlibs_ver14:42
asacso i assume they did that explicitly14:42
asac(in debian)14:42
seb128right14:42
seb128I would assume so14:42
seb128slomo knows what he's doing14:42
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asacapproved14:45
seb128asac, thanks14:45
didrockspitti: I'm looking at your HookUI class in apport and don't find a way to enter a text in a label asking the user to enter free text in a textbox. Does it exist?14:54
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pittididrocks: no, it doesn't right now, sorry15:01
didrockspitti: ok, I'll add an ui.information() and ask for reporting afterwards. Thanks :)15:01
pittididrocks: but don't call it information() :)15:02
pittiinput_line or so15:02
pittianyway, good night everyone!15:02
pittiand have a nice weekend15:02
pittisee you in Prague!15:03
didrockspitti: see you in Prague pitti :)15:03
didrocksand enjoy your week-end15:03
kenvandinesee you soon pitti15:05
* chrisccoulson really should start packing for prague15:06
* kenvandine should too15:06
* kenvandine is going to spend my lunch mowing the lawn... ugh! hoping it isn't too out of control when i get back from prague 15:07
chrisccoulsonkenvandine, our lawn looks pretty dead because it hasn't rained very much for a while15:10
chrisccoulsonbut it started raining a couple of days ago15:10
chrisccoulsonso i expect it will be out of control when i get back ;)15:10
chrisccoulsoni'd much prefer a garden covered in concrete15:11
chrisccoulsonless hassle ;)15:11
kenvandinechrisccoulson: that is what my dad always said.... "I'm going to pave the yard and paint it green"15:12
chrisccoulsonlol, that's a fantastic idea15:12
chrisccoulsoni really hate any form of gardening15:12
kenvandineme too...  especially as hot as it is here15:13
kenvandinespeaking of heat... i'm going to take an early lunch break... bbiab15:19
seb128kenvandine, how is the empathy indicator work going? I'm doing an overview of where we stand for the weekly meeting later on15:21
kenvandineabout 1/2 done15:21
kenvandineor more probably15:21
seb128ok, nice15:22
kenvandineshould be done before the sprint is over15:22
seb128any blocker? or just need to be done15:22
kenvandinei hope :)15:22
kenvandinenope15:22
seb128excellent15:22
kenvandinesmop15:22
seb128thanks15:22
seb128chrisccoulson: hey, how are you?15:22
kenvandinenp15:22
seb128chrisccoulson: I noticed you started on some of the changes for chromium in UNE15:22
chrisccoulsonhi seb128, i'm good thanks, how are you?15:22
chrisccoulsonyeah, i started looking at the xulrunner packaging today15:23
seb128I'm fine thanks15:23
seb128so you are mostly done with security updates?15:23
seb128do you think you will able to catch up with your maverick work from now on?15:23
chrisccoulsonseb128 - i'll give it a good try, but i might struggle to fully catch up ;)15:24
seb128what is on your plates for the next week?15:24
chrisccoulsonseb128 - not much yet. i need to discuss with people about how we're going to provide the search plugin for baidu, but that's about it really15:25
chrisccoulson(and trying to catch up with blueprint work)15:25
chrisccoulsonwe have a round of mozilla security updates on tuesday too, but the work for those is done already15:25
asacunless there is a firedrill :-P15:25
chrisccoulsonyeah, hopefully there are no last minute rebuilds ;)15:26
seb128chrisccoulson: I can see you have the xulrunner changes for chromium, the user account spec and some mozilla items...do you think you will have time for everything?15:26
seb128chrisccoulson: or should we try to see to get you help on the useraccount one for example15:26
asaci would suggest to drop user account spec ;)15:26
chrisccoulsonseb128 - i probably won't have time for everything. i can make a start on the user-accounts stuff, but that might be something we could ship in a PPA for this cycle15:26
seb128asac, why? ;-)15:26
asacdrop as in cover by someone else15:27
seb128asac, you need to steal chrisccoulson away from us for some of your own tasks don't you? ;-)15:27
chrisccoulsonlol15:27
asacbecause i think there is plenty of stuff in general to get all the firefox etc. stuff in shape ... so if i would plan this i would try to give chris some help ;)15:27
seb128asac, don't even think about it :p15:27
seb128asac, true enough, that's sort of where I was coming but I wanted to check with him if he agrees, I can understand if he wants to do a bit of something different15:28
seb128chrisccoulson: we will see to dispatch load from this one at the sprint15:28
asacsure. but he already works from 1000-0200 ;)15:28
chrisccoulsonyeah, no worries15:28
asacso thats 100% ;)15:29
chrisccoulsonasac - 4 hours? ;)15:29
asaclol15:29
asac4 hours sleep + 4 hours excersizes like going to the gym etc.15:29
chrisccoulsonlol15:30
asacand having a beer sometimes15:30
seb128yeah, we will make sure he gets beers at the sprint15:31
seb128those will be well deserved15:31
* seb128 hugs chrisccoulson15:31
* chrisccoulson hugs seb12815:31
asacand with some luck chrisccoulson has to start preparing the next major upgrade in 1-2 month ;)15:31
chrisccoulsonlol15:32
seb128tremolux, hello15:32
chrisccoulsonhopefully 3.6 will be around for a little bit longer ;)15:32
seb128tremolux, how are you?15:32
seb128vish, hey15:32
asacchrisccoulson: they shoot for 8 month total ;)15:32
asacbut realistically i think we can count on 12 month ;)15:32
visho/15:32
tremoluxseb128: hi seb128, I'm doing well thanks, how are you?15:33
chrisccoulsonasac - hmmm, i'm not sure whether we are building FF4.0 with webgl support or not :/15:34
chrisccoulsonit doesn't look like there's a build-option, it's just checking for the glx headers15:34
seb128vish, I think I read some comments from you on a bug about a murrine issue15:34
chrisccoulsonwhich we're installing (by build-depending on mesa-common-dev)15:34
seb128vish, do we need to backport some git changes or update our version?15:34
chrisccoulsonso, i'm not sure if we need to do anything else there15:34
seb128tremolux, I'm fine thanks15:34
vishseb128: no need to backport for Lucid , we can just update the git version for maverick15:35
asacchrisccoulson: fta said that webgl worked for him in our 3.7 builds15:35
asache just reconfirmed yesterday15:35
seb128tremolux, doing weekly status updates for the meeting later on15:35
seb128vish, I'm trying to remember what bug it was, what is the change doing?15:35
asacchrisccoulson: but yeah. if the headers only get pulled in implicitly, we might want to make that a top level build depend15:35
seb128tremolux, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-opportunistic-apps-stable-release15:35
seb128tremolux, should some of those items be DONE?15:35
vishseb128: also , we can wait till the maverick theme release , since that is the one requiring it15:35
seb128tremolux, ie "implement UI in software center for display of new apps: TODO"15:35
vishlet me find the bug15:35
seb128vish, do you know what it was about, that should be enough15:36
tremoluxseb128: yes, probably should15:36
seb128tremolux, can you do that? thanks ;-)15:36
tremoluxseb128: it's just that without the backend in place I didn't consider it fully done, but that's kinda silly I guess15:37
tremoluxseb128: yep, I'll update those15:37
vishseb128: bug 493762 and  Bug 52778915:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 493762 in gtk2-engines-murrine (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Hide or deemphasize shortcut keys in menus (affects: 5) (heat: 38)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49376215:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 527789 in light-themes (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "Restore triangle disclosure widget (affects: 8) (heat: 49)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52778915:37
seb128tremolux, if it's not done that's fine, I just want to have those reflecting where we stand15:37
seb128vish, oh right, thanks, didn't the shortcut one got fixed before lucid?15:38
vishseb128: kwwii and cimi worked on the theme and murrine so there are some nice new changes waiting for maverick :)15:38
seb128vish, I've the _ displayed only when alt is active there15:38
vishseb128: thats the underlines , this is the Accel labels , the "Ctrl+F" , those  stuff in the menus15:38
tremoluxseb128: sure, I'll review them and make updates15:38
seb128vish, oh ok15:38
seb128vish, thanks15:38
seb128tremolux, thanks15:38
vishnp15:38
seb128vish, I guess I will sort details with kwwii during the sprint next week15:39
tremoluxseb128: sure!15:39
vishyeah15:39
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ftaasac, chrisccoulson: we have mesa-common-dev in build-deps so that configure auto-enables webgl. it's been there since last year15:47
asackthx15:48
faganmpt: I have the changes I did to the software software sources in a branch but the patch is still not right at the backend but all the ui changes are done. Ill probably have a patch monday.15:55
mptfagan, excellent! I was just wondering how you were going15:56
faganive been busy over the past few days so I havent looked at it properly15:56
faganits a weird weird program15:57
faganBut I can deal15:58
seb128Riddell, could you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus for the kubuntu weekly update?16:03
chrisccoulsonasac - i think you asked me to remind you about an e-mail yesterday ;)16:09
asacchrisccoulson: is the commit already merged to 4.0 ?16:11
chrisccoulsonasac - not yet, i will do that now16:11
asaccool16:11
seb128chrisccoulson: what is the status for the firefox sru for the search change?16:14
seb128chrisccoulson: when do you think that could be ready or landing?16:14
chrisccoulsonseb128 - i've got a working searchplugin here, but we need to discuss on where to ship it16:14
chrisccoulsonthat will be happening next week though16:14
seb128ok, let's sort that next week then16:14
chrisccoulsonhmmm, i can't get firefox sync to work on FF4.016:22
chrisccoulsonit fails to initialize NSS :/16:22
chrisccoulsonthat sucks16:22
and471mpt, any news?16:26
chrisccoulsonwow, it has just gone very very dark here16:32
mptand471, hi, I'm just in the middle of e-mailing you16:33
and471mpt, ah cool16:33
mptbut since you're here I don't need to16:34
mptand471, 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=diff&rev2=394&rev1=39316:35
mptand471, 2. While doing that, I realized why you'd suggested that the error message about incorrect e-mail address or password should go in the corner -- because that's what I'd already written in the spec. Durrrr me.16:36
and471mpt, hehe16:36
mptThat's a case where my July 2010 self disagrees strongly with my February 2010 self.16:36
and471:)16:36
and471mpt, okay that all looks good :)16:37
and471mpt, and I take it no one back to you about distinguishing between the email being incorrect or the password?16:38
mptno16:38
mptNow to tackle that broken-apt-cache thing16:41
bratschekenvandine, seb128: Did you guys say something about more armel compile problems with libido?16:44
seb128bratsche, yes16:45
seb128bratsche,16:46
seb128http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51991787/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.ido_0.1.9-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz16:46
seb128idoscalemenuitem.c: In function 'ido_scale_menu_item_constructed':16:46
seb128idoscalemenuitem.c:205: error: cast increases required alignment of target type16:46
and471mpt, good luck :D16:46
seb128  GtkAdjustment *adj = GTK_ADJUSTMENT (gtk_adjustment_new (0.0, 0.0, 100.0, 1.0, 10.0, 0.0));16:46
seb128bratsche, ^ that's the concerned line16:46
bratscheAh, okay.  I'll fix that really quick.16:46
bratscheseb128: Sorry about that.16:46
seb128bratsche, no worry16:47
kenvandinebratsche, thx16:54
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mptand471, the good news is, we don't need that "Items cannot be installed or removed until the software catalog is repaired" alert at all any more17:17
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and471mpt, ah good :)17:18
mptand471, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=diff&rev2=395&rev1=39417:19
and471mpt, cool, when you say:17:20
and471When “Installed Software” is selected and focused, the /!\ icon should be next in the keyboard navigation cycle17:21
and471mpt, is that just for accessibility?17:21
mptand471, yes17:21
and471mpt, ok I shall try to get that polished over the weekend :)17:22
mptawesome17:22
* and471 notes to self it is never a good idea to open 30 evince windows at the same time17:22
mdeslaurseb128: can I please get gnome-pilot support back into evolution?17:26
seb128mdeslaur, no17:28
seb128or talk with didrocks to check why it has been dropped in that build17:28
mdeslaurseb128: so, I can no longer sync my 1.5 year old phone? :(17:28
seb128but upstream dropped the code in 2.31 anyway17:28
seb128well it's dropped in the next upstream version17:29
mdeslaurseb128: oh, well if that's the case, forget it...thanks17:29
seb128so I don't really want to invest to fix something which is going to be dropped anyway when we update17:29
didrocksmdeslaur: upstream and debian dropped it, it's not in a good state17:29
seb128mdeslaur, I'm surprised anybody still use it17:29
seb128I though it was buggy and not maintained for years and not working with most modern devices17:29
mdeslaurseb128: worked great for me :)17:29
mdeslaurseb128: up until maverick that is :(17:30
seb128sorry about that17:30
mdeslaurno problem17:30
seb128let me know if you find a better alternative to sync your phone though ;-)17:30
mdeslauroh! the conduits can be moved to gnome-pilot itself apparently...I'll hack on that17:31
mdeslaurthanks seb128, didrocks17:31
mptAnd finally for today17:35
mptand471, <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#software-item-screen> now shows how I'd like screenshot downloading/launching progress to look, as we discussed earlier17:36
mptthough I guess that will also require custom GTK work17:36
mptI wonder if you could plonk an actual GTK progress bar on top of the thumbnail17:39
mptIdeally the GTK theme would automatically present a progress bar as a pie whenever its width ≤ its height17:39
and471mpt, yeah, well I am trying to get myself acquainted with the appdetailsgtk code so hopefully I can more use in the future ;)17:52
and471mpt, thanks for that, it makes everything a lot clearer :)17:52
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vishmpt: firefox 4 does the pie thingy18:24
vishpie progress18:24
mptdoes it now18:26
mptwhere?18:26
and471mpt, in the tab18:27
and471mpt: http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/17/2010/07/500x_load-progress.jpg18:28
mptah, right18:29
mpt(it's been a while since I've used Firefox heavily...)18:29
and471mpt, you use chromium?18:29
vishmpt: yeah , in the tabs http://imagebin.ca/popup/BFMXt6.html18:30
vishheh , and471 beat me to it :D18:30
and471vish, YES!!18:30
and471;018:30
and471;)18:30
mptand471, yes18:46
* mpt -> home18:46
and471see ya18:46
mptHave fun kids18:46
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and471have a good weekend everyone19:35
lamalexbryce2: is it ok if I steal guickly?20:07
* didrocks waves goodnight, enjoy your week-end everybody and see you (for some of you on Sunday/Monday!)20:08
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bryce2lamalex, sure consider it yours!  just include some credit in there for me in case it gets wildly successful :-)20:40
lamalexdone20:42
lamalex:)20:42
bryce2lamalex, excellent, guid luck!20:52
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