[01:02] <pleia2> hey folks, might not get quorum for tonights americas board meeting
[01:03] <ddecator> :(
[01:03] <dyfet> ah...ok
[01:03] <julianarmando> :(
[01:03] <zkriesse> Meeting start?
[01:03] <maco> unsure we'll make qorum
[01:03] <maco> working on ti
[01:03]  * maco calls dinda's phone and next greg's
[01:03] <greg-g> I'm here! :)
[01:04] <maco> oh ok!
[01:04] <maco> how many is quorum?
[01:04] <C3s4r> Hi all!
[01:04] <greg-g> 4 :/
[01:04] <zkriesse> maco: I believe four
[01:04] <maco> hmm we have 3 right now....
[01:05] <julianarmando> expect?
[01:05] <maco> i'm trying to get ahold of dinda
[01:05] <julianarmando> wait a few minutes?
[01:05] <IngForigua> good evening
[01:05] <maco> yeah
[01:05] <greg-g> julianarmando: yeah, wait a few minutes while we attempt to get people
[01:05] <C3s4r> hola IngForigua
[01:06] <julianarmando> greg-g: ok
[01:06] <julianarmando> Hello IngForigua
[01:06] <IngForigua> C3s4r: hola gente
[01:07] <C3s4r> IngForigua, aparte de ti quien mas está de Colombia?
[01:07]  * ddecator crosses fingers
[01:07] <julianarmando> Yo soy de colombia :)
[01:07] <IngForigua> C3s4r: hoy se presenta julianarmando
[01:07] <C3s4r> julianarmando, :D
[01:07] <IngForigua> C3s4r: de donde es ud?
[01:07] <IngForigua> de que team
[01:07] <C3s4r> IngForigua, Venezuela
[01:07] <IngForigua> hmmmm buen team nelo effejax en fin
[01:08] <IngForigua> artemisa
[01:08] <IngForigua> buena camaderia :P
[01:08] <C3s4r> eso es correcto, effiejayx ntovar y otros compañeros estarán aquí apoyando.
[01:09] <C3s4r> IngForigua, Artemisa la mejor
[01:09] <IngForigua> Que bueno otra vez hay buena cuota de hispanohablantes
[01:10] <C3s4r> julianarmando, de que parte de Colombia eres?
[01:10] <julianarmando> C3s4r, soy de Ibagué
[01:10] <ntovar> Saludes
[01:10]  * IngForigua it is a #ubuntu-meeting-es
[01:11] <C3s4r> julianarmando, jejeje la semana pasada estuvo un amigo por esos lares. Diego Armando Ruiz. El es de Cali.
[01:11] <C3s4r> ntovar, saludos :D
[01:11] <ntovar> C3s4r: suerte
[01:12] <julianarmando> C3s4r: jejeje tu de donde eres?
[01:12] <C3s4r> ntovar, gracias ;)
[01:12] <IngForigua> ntovar: ud es umember
[01:12] <ntovar> IngForigua: no lo soy
[01:12] <C3s4r> julianarmando, Nací en Acarigua Edo. Portuguesa y ahora estoy viviendo en Maracaibo Edo. Zulia. Tierra de Effiejayx.
[01:12] <C3s4r> ntovar, espero que pronto lo seas.
[01:13] <IngForigua> C3s4r: que rico por alla :P
[01:13] <C3s4r> IngForigua, has visitado Vzla?
[01:13] <IngForigua> pues alla voy a hacer mi maestria
[01:13] <C3s4r> Caracas?
[01:13] <IngForigua> tengo familia en los teques
[01:13] <ntovar> C3s4r: veremos para cuando me animo
[01:13] <IngForigua> si cerca
[01:13] <julianarmando> C3s4r: Super bien :)
[01:14] <C3s4r> IngForigua, jejeje por esos lares vive uno de los miembros activos de team local.
[01:14] <ZachK_> Guys, it's a meeting channel...not a chat time channel
[01:14] <C3s4r> IngForigua, espero verlo pronto quizás en uno de los aniversario de Ubuntu-ve
[01:14] <IngForigua> Eso eso :D
[01:14] <IngForigua> ZachK_: sorry
[01:15] <Daviey> greg-g / maco: Is this meeting happening?
[01:15] <maco> we're looking for people
[01:15] <ZachK_> Daviey: The need qorum
[01:20] <greg-g> alright, we have 4 now
[01:21] <greg-g> #startmeeting
[01:21] <MootBot> Meeting started at 19:21. The chair is greg-g.
[01:21] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[01:21] <pleia2> hooray
[01:21] <greg-g> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the Americas meeting for July 15th. The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas
[01:21] <ddecator> woot!
[01:21] <greg-g> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[01:21] <greg-g> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[01:21] <greg-g> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[01:21] <greg-g> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[01:21] <greg-g> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[01:22] <greg-g> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[01:22] <greg-g> dyfet: you here?
[01:22] <dyfet> That's me, yes I am
[01:22] <greg-g> [TOPIC] dyfet
[01:22] <MootBot> New Topic:  dyfet
[01:23] <dyfet> While some may know of my technical contributions to Ubuntu, I did not actually come here to speak about that, but rather my community involvement.
[01:23] <dyfet> While I did the original meta packages for Lubuntu (LXDE derivitive of Ubuntu), I also helped organize and co-ran the Lubuntu specific UDS sessions of the past year
[01:24] <dyfet> I also helped organize the Lubuntu team along with many others, and helped us work through the process we use for dispute resolution.
[01:24] <pleia2> yay lubuntu :)
[01:24] <dyfet> I also helped rally the community around the Asterisk blueprint for the server team for Lucid
[01:25] <greg-g> dyfet: what do you mean by that? I'm not familiar with the asterisk blueprint issue
[01:25] <dyfet> And brought together the original 389 team.  I have spoken at several conferences on my vision for Ubuntu as the telecommunications platform, including scale8x.
[01:26] <dyfet> In regard to your question, there was concern as to whether the community could help produce a working asterisk package in time for Lucid
[01:26] <greg-g> ahh, I see
[01:26] <greg-g> so you lead the charge and got it done, eh?
[01:26] <dyfet> Yes, though it was often being the loudest advocate to the server team for it ;)
[01:26] <greg-g> :)
[01:27] <dyfet> Finally...my other interests are in accessibility to better enable Ubuntu for blind users, and in bringing computing to indigenous communities in North America
[01:27] <dyfet> I wanted to keep it short, I hope that was okay :)
[01:28] <greg-g> dyfet: could you say a little more about the indigenous communities part?
[01:28] <zkriesse> We got qorum?
[01:28] <dyfet> Ah, my link: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DavidSugar
[01:28] <ddecator> zkriesse: yes, meeting is underway
[01:29] <zkriesse> ddecator: awesome
[01:29] <dyfet> In Lakotah, we have communities that do not have access to electricity or running water.  We are working on a project with treaty school to bring telecenters to these places.
[01:29] <pleia2> wow, that's great
[01:29] <dyfet> I may go back there later this summer for this
[01:30] <dyfet> I am trying to be short because I know we are short on time and long on candidates :)
[01:31] <pleia2> thanks dyfet :)
[01:31] <dyfet> But I would be happy to elaborate on anything further as requested, and I do have someone here if he needs to speak also
[01:32] <greg-g> yes, is there anyone here to vouch?
[01:32] <pleia2> anyone who wants to cheer for applicants can speak up at any time, so please do
[01:33] <Daviey> o/
[01:34] <Daviey> dyfet: rocks.. he's done some really good work in the voip area.  His development rocks, but he's also very motivated in keep the teams he's involved with eager.
[01:34] <Daviey> He's possibly one of the more enthusiastic geeks in that area, and I know that this has kept me motivated at times
[01:35] <pleia2> a skill that's much appreciated :)
[01:36] <greg-g> awesome
[01:38] <greg-g> ok, I'm sorry dyfet and the rest of the community members up for approval, we have lost quorum.
[01:38] <ddecator> :(
[01:38] <pleia2> we had a very committed board member tethering while she was travelling, but went into a no network zone
[01:38] <greg-g> So, that means that the Membership Review Board will review dyfet's application on our mailing list, and email him our votes.
[01:38] <greg-g> And!
[01:39] <greg-g> We will reschedule this meeting for NEXT Thursday, one week from today.
[01:39]  * Daviey wishes dyfet luck.. and heads to bed.
[01:39] <greg-g> I hope that works for the rest of the applicants here
[01:39] <ddecator> hopefully :/
[01:39] <pleia2> sorry everyone, we'll make sure we get quorum then :)
[01:39] <paultag> pleia2: I'm so cutting your network line the day of
[01:39] <greg-g> Yes, there will be much prodding and double checking
[01:39] <C3s4r> ok, no problem. :S
[01:40] <julianarmando> ok, no problem :)
[01:40] <greg-g> thanks for understanding everyone.
[01:40] <pleia2> paultag: I am on a train tethering too :\
[01:40] <paultag> awww
[01:40] <greg-g> Have a great rest of the evening and we'll see you in one week!
[01:40] <greg-g> #endmeeting
[01:40] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 19:40.
[01:40] <pleia2> thanks greg-g
[01:40] <IngForigua> lol
[01:40] <dyfet> Life happens, and I very much appreciate what we were able to try doing under difficult circumstances
[01:40] <julianarmando> Thanks bye
[01:41] <ntovar> jeje a seguir en la dulce espera :O
[01:41] <C3s4r> yes men :D
[01:41] <julianarmando> jaja :( que embarrada, nos hablamos dentro de 8 dias entonces :)
[01:42] <greg-g> thanks for understand dyfet
[01:42] <greg-g> +ing
[01:42] <IngForigua> jajajajajajaja
[01:42] <IngForigua> julianarmando: :P
[01:43] <julianarmando> ciao people :p
[12:37] <TechnoPagan_tm> Misterio aka JOHN THE SUPREME COMMANDER jacks off every day
[12:40] <kermiac> really?
[12:44] <paultag> TechnoPagan_tm: please be mindful in this room, this is a very public room, and it would be a shame to give the wrong impression of one's self
[12:47] <TechnoPagan_tm> rauoo the foo.
[12:59] <TechnoPagan_tm> Micro$shaft
[13:00] <TechnoPagan_tm> Windows 7 has lice
[13:01] <ScottK> !ops
[15:58] <seb128> hey
[15:58] <ttx> o/
[15:59] <jdstrand> o/
[15:59] <robbiew> #startmeeting
[15:59] <MootBot> Meeting started at 09:59. The chair is robbiew.
[15:59] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[15:59]  * fader_ is filling in for marjo again today.
[16:00]  * robbiew now just assumes fader will fill in
[16:00] <fader_> Hehehe
[16:00]  * robbiew will wait 5min before starting
[16:00] <ogra> yo
[16:03] <ScottK> o/
[16:04] <robbiew> t-minus 2 min
[16:04] <robbiew> 1min....
[16:05] <robbiew> [TOPIC] 10.10 - Team Reports
[16:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  10.10 - Team Reports
[16:05] <robbiew> [TOPIC] QA
[16:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA
[16:05] <fader_> Hi
[16:05] <fader_> * Hardware testing
[16:05] <fader_> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
[16:05] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
[16:05] <fader_> Laptops/Netbooks:
[16:05] <fader_>     Passed: 60 (94%)    Failed:  1 ( 2%)    Untested:   3 ( 4%)
[16:05] <fader_> Servers:
[16:05] <fader_>     Passed: 59 (87%)    Failed:  0 ( 0%)    Untested:   9 (13%)
[16:05] <fader_> Desktops:
[16:05] <fader_>     Passed:  8 (73%)    Failed:  0 ( 0%)    Untested:   3 (27%)
[16:05] <fader_> We're having problems testing the desktop and netbook images due to bug 602273 and bug 594162
[16:05] <fader_> (alternates work, which we've been using for testing)
[16:06] <fader_> * Boot performance
[16:06] <fader_> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/desktop/daily-bootcharts/
[16:06] <fader_> (This does not include netbook data as we have been unable to test the netbook image -- that data will be collected when we are able to run those images again)
[16:06] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~cr3/desktop/daily-bootcharts/
[16:06] <fader_> cr3 is working on a way to provide a summary across systems in order to track regressions and is aiming to have that for next week
[16:06] <fader_> * Blueprint status for Alpha 3
[16:06] <fader_> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:06] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:06] <fader_> qa-maverick-improve-iso-tracker - 100% complete
[16:06] <fader_> qa-maverick-mago-i18n - 0% complete; will be started week of July 19
[16:06] <fader_> EOL
[16:06] <robbiew> \o/ thanks cr3
[16:07] <robbiew> fader_: thank you sir
[16:07] <robbiew> any questions for QA
[16:07] <fader_> Oh, FYI I suspect the "1 failed" on the laptops to be a test issue rather than a distro issue, but we're looking into it
[16:07] <robbiew> ok, thanks
[16:07] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Security
[16:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security
[16:07] <jdstrand> hi
[16:08] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:08] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:08] <jdstrand> I have one task from one milestoned blueprint for Alpha-3: merging libvirt. I will do this along with updates I am performing for other releases, which I am currently working on. Blueprints for the cycle are slipping due to high/complicated security update load. The team postponed some last week and will discuss this more at the upcoming sprint.
[16:08] <cjwatson> fader_: 602273 is in my queue but wasn't as easy as I'd hoped at first glance
[16:08] <fader_> cjwatson: Ack, not trying to pressure anyone unduly, just noting :)
[16:08] <jdstrand> mdeslaur is continuing to make progress on security-m-tls-renegotiation-updates, our last remaining essential blueprint.
[16:09] <jdstrand> The firefox 3.6 transition should be completed next week: the TCK testing is complete, the server team completed tomcat testing and started testing eucalyptus (thanks ttx and kirkland)
[16:09] <jdstrand> (and sbeattie for TCK testing, and doko for fixes, and too many other :)
[16:09] <robbiew> heh
[16:10] <jdstrand> As for milestoned bugs, we have bug #599450, which is listed as a kernel bug, but the kernel is doing the right thing. The kernel and security teams have rough consensus that the fix is to adjust the profiles and/or abstractions to account for the kernel change. There are other potential options, and we plan to discuss them early next week and implement the fix during next week.
[16:10] <robbiew> ack
[16:10] <jdstrand> that's it from me
[16:10] <ScottK> +1 for the security team for fixing KDE backtraces this week
[16:10] <jdstrand> yes
[16:11] <ScottK> That's a huge deal for Kubuntu to have that working again
[16:11]  * robbiew updates agenda to move bug 599450 under security
[16:11] <jdstrand> kees has been working on the yama/ptrace stuff, trying to make sure all the corner cases are done
[16:11] <robbiew> any questions for Security?
[16:11] <jdstrand> robbiew: there is a chance that there is a kernel component to the fix, but we will know more next week
[16:11] <robbiew> sure
[16:12] <robbiew> gives you all something in your agenda section anyway :P
[16:12] <robbiew> thnx jdstrand
[16:12] <jdstrand> sure :)
[16:12] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Kernel
[16:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel
[16:12] <ogasawara> Overall Kernel Team status is summarised at the first URL below, including the item(s) called out in the agenda.  Our burndown chart for Alpha3 is at the third URL, and our overall burndown chart is at the fourth:
[16:12] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:12] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone maverick-alpha-3
[16:12] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:12] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:12] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:12] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone maverick-alpha-3
[16:12] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:12] <robbiew> and here it comes
[16:12] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:12] <ogasawara> heh
[16:12] <ogasawara> On the items noted in the agenda, spec status is as follows:
[16:12] <ogasawara> * kernel-maverick-apparmor: The latest upstream submission was posted yesterday.  Development is on going and improvements to file, capability, network, resource usage and ipc mediation are planned.  However, With this submission we believe AppArmor is ready for inclusion into the mainline kernel.
[16:13] <ogasawara> * kernel-maverick-pv-ops-ec2-kernel: Received confirmation from Amazon contacts that pv-ops based kernels should work in EC2 and that the xsave hypercall needs to be disabled or there will be issues with booting kernels. jjohansen has built a test kernel and should have results shortly.
[16:13] <ogasawara> Bug status is as follows:
[16:13] <ogasawara> Bug 591941
[16:13] <ogasawara> mpoirier is working this issue with TI but there is still no resolution currently.
[16:13] <ogasawara> Bug 595489
[16:13] <ogasawara> A patch has been posted upstream but not yet accepted.
[16:13] <ogasawara> Bug 597387
[16:13] <ogasawara> Testing currently underway (See spec notes above).
[16:14] <ogasawara> Bug 599450
[16:14] <ogasawara> See security team notes above.
[16:14] <ogasawara> As a general status, we've rebased to 2.6.35-rc5 and uploaded.  We're also in the process of updating aufs2 and plan to upload today.  We are above the trend line in our Alpha3 burndown chart but below the trend line overall.  The remaining Alpha3 work items are not release critical.
[16:14] <ogasawara> Questions?
[16:15] <robbiew> \o/ on apparmor in mainline
[16:15] <robbiew> thnx ogasawara
[16:15] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Foundations
[16:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  Foundations
[16:16] <robbiew> cjwatson: ready when you are ;)
[16:16] <cjwatson> Lots to do at the sprint; still behind our work item line, although we've made some progress and deferred some chunks of work (notably, we are no longer planning to shift the CDs to GRUB this cycle, although will continue with the work required to do so later).
[16:16] <cjwatson> Good things this week: chunks of buy-something progress, installer-redesign (though not yet reflected in work item statuses), movement on btrfs-support licensing blocker, most invasive parts of grub2-boot-framebuffer landed, nearly there with package-culling (13 merges to go)
[16:16] <cjwatson> Specific sprint targets for next week include: parallel debconf infrastructure for installer-redesign; land Python 2.7; sort out live UEC builds; 10.04.1 LTS point release preparation
[16:16] <cjwatson> We have four milestoned bugs, mostly fairly shallow.
[16:16] <cjwatson> For full details:
[16:16] <cjwatson> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:16] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:18] <ScottK> Is land Python 2.7 decided?  I've been getting the build failure mails for the rebuild test and there are a lot of them.
[16:19] <cjwatson> ah, well in this case I was just reporting from barry
[16:19] <doko> ScottK: no, but the test results are hosed due to the bad pkgbinarymagler
[16:19] <cjwatson> "Get Python 2.7 as supported version" is the note from our sprint agenda
[16:19] <ScottK> doko: Even excluding those, it seems like it was a lot.
[16:20] <cjwatson> I'll ask barry about that item first thing on Monday
[16:20] <robbiew> doko: any progress on completing work items for http://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-m-686-compile ?
[16:21] <robbiew> apw is sending me hate mail about it
[16:21] <robbiew> :P
[16:21] <doko> heh, yes, opening the page in edit mode this morning ...
[16:21] <robbiew> thnx!
[16:21] <doko> robbiew: did apw build a test kernel?
[16:22] <apw> doko, hrm did i miss a request for that?
[16:22] <robbiew> lol
[16:22] <apw> i haven't built any specific ones as yet
[16:22] <robbiew> seems you two should sync up early next week
[16:22] <doko> apw: s/586/686/ && make
[16:23] <apw> doko, i thought it was more complex than that, that there was another requirement, cmov or somethign
[16:23] <apw> i recall we were waiting for a write up of what the specific lower level now was
[16:23] <apw> and i think we've not done more than that at this time
[16:23] <apw> perhaps we can get together early next week and sort it out if you are in parague
[16:23] <doko> well, you were not waiting to drop the i386 flavour ...
[16:25] <apw> yep, i386 was definatly useless based on the understanding we had, but to change generic we did want to know the specific request
[16:25] <apw> as sadly noone from kernel was at the session at UDS where it was decided
[16:26] <ScottK> Any status on getting fixes from the Linaro toolchain into Maverick?  Apparently that'll fix qt4-x11 on armel.
[16:26] <ScottK> (it built on the rebuild test doko did for that)
[16:28] <doko> apw: it should be safe to use the flags that the compiler passes by default (which are  -march=i686 -mtune=generic)
[16:28] <robbiew> okay...we need to move on...this conversation can take place in #ubuntu-kernel or in person next week ;)
[16:28] <apw> doko, those won't get the right kernle options set in the kernel config
[16:29] <apw> ack
[16:29] <robbiew> anything *else* for Foundations?
[16:29] <ScottK> robbiew: Just the toolchain question.
[16:30] <robbiew> doko: ? (10:26:22 AM) ScottK: Any status on getting fixes from the Linaro toolchain into Maverick?  Apparently that'll fix qt4-x11 on armel.
[16:31] <doko> robbiew: linaro is still evaluating the armel build failures.
[16:31] <doko> lets discuss this on Monday
[16:31] <robbiew> doko: ack
[16:32] <ScottK> doko: That doesn't really help me much
[16:32] <robbiew> [ACTION] robbie to send ScottK an update next Tuesday
[16:32] <MootBot> ACTION received:  robbie to send ScottK an update next Tuesday
[16:32] <robbiew> ScottK:  ;)
[16:32] <ScottK> robbiew: Thanks.  Just was I was about to ask.
[16:32] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Server
[16:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server
[16:33] <ttx> o/
[16:33] <ScottK> Please either include Riddell in the Monday discussion or the Tuesday status.
[16:33] <ttx> Updated status at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:33] <ttx> Alpha3-milestoned bugs:
[16:33] <ttx> Bug 572317 - image-store does not support images without a ramdisk (niemeyer): no time from upstream (niemeyer) to help, might need reassign
[16:33] <ttx> Bug 591006 - [MIR] haproxy (clint-fewbar): MIR accepted, needs to be seeded
[16:33] <ttx> Bug 594372 - [MIR] tgt (ccheney): MIR accepted, needs to be seeded
[16:33] <ttx> Bug 600174 - axis2c fails to build from source in maverick (kirkland): just assigned
[16:33] <ttx> Bug 600984 - redhat-cluster-suite fails to build from source in maverick (csurbhi): fix in progress
[16:33] <ttx> Bug 600220 - libnet-dns-perl fails to build from source in maverick (ttx): just assigned
[16:34] <ttx> Bug 605721 - tgtd target will not start unless it's configured with "allow-in-use yes" (ccheney): just opened
[16:34] <ttx> I see no blockers there, except the image-store-proxy that might need some digging-in
[16:34] <ttx> On the specs side...
[16:34] <ttx> see http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-server-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:34] <robbiew> ...and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2010-07-16 decides it needs to disappear.../me pulls up a local backup copy
[16:34] <ttx> Alpha3-milestoned specs status:
[16:35] <ttx> server-maverick-tomcat (33%): On track
[16:35] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-kernel-upgrades (31%): Good progress
[16:35] <ttx> including really recently:
 woohoo.  http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/maverick/current/ . maverick images 20100716 and newer are registered to grub loaders.
[16:35] <ttx> server-maverick-upstart-conversion (18%): work in progress, pending some foundations team reviews
[16:35] <ttx> server-maverick-monitoring-framework (0%): work in progress, several work items should get completed at once
[16:35] <ttx> server-maverick-uds-web20-workloads (0%): work in progress, several work items blocked on sponsoring
[16:36] <ttx> for those last two I wanted updated status from Spamaps but haven't had a chance to get it today
[16:36] <ttx> server-maverick-uec-monitoring (9%): Plan might be refined to reduce Eucalyptus upstream delta
[16:36] <ttx> server-maverick-uec-provisioning (20%): Good progress
[16:36] <ttx> server-maverick-wbemcim-providers (75%): On track
[16:36] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-utils (0%): High-prio items were completed in alpha2, prime target for postponing
[16:36] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-libs (0%): Low priority spec with only 2 work items, might be completed by end of cycle
[16:36] <ttx> server-maverick-apport-hooks (0%): migrated to a community effort, only one work item left
[16:36] <ttx> server-maverick-uds-cloud-loadbalancing (0%): Low priority spec, prime target for postponing
[16:37] <ttx> Other Critical/High Specs < 40% completion:
[16:37] <ttx> server-maverick-uec-testing (14%): Most work items about testing should occur at end of subcycle, on track
[16:37] <ttx> server-maverick-ehcache-integration (0%): This is a cooperation with upstream and they didn't deliver on promised dates, might need to be dropped
[16:37] <ttx> server-maverick-uec-eucalyptus-next (33%): On track
[16:37] <ttx> server-maverick-hadoop-pig (0%): Mathias on vacation, work items should still be completed by A3
[16:37] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-gluster (33%): On track
[16:37] <ttx> Other Medium/Low Specs < 20% completion:
[16:37] <ttx> server-maverick-uds-seed-review (0%): Mathias on vacation, work items should still be completed by A3
[16:37] <ttx> server-maverick-uec-liveusb (0%): Plan might be refined to not depend on cdimage
[16:37] <ttx> server-maverick-cloud-images-sans-cloud (0%): Blocked by kernel upgrade work, still on track for release
[16:38] <robbiew> ScottK: ack (on Riddel in discussion)
[16:38] <ttx> So we are globally late...
[16:38] <ttx> Vacation/conferences/sprint has taken (or will take) a fair share of resources, so some of the Low priority specs have already been rescoped or are expected to be dropped. At this point, server-maverick-apport-hooks has been rescoped as a community effort, and the remaining work items in server-maverick-cloud-utils are expected to be dropped.
[16:38] <ttx> we'll revisit everything early next week
[16:38] <cjwatson> uec-liveusb> I added a sprint agenda item for me to talk with kirkland on this
[16:39] <kirkland> cjwatson: fwiw, I'm reconsidering that one; now that I have learned the magic of live-helper
[16:39] <cjwatson> ok, up to you, I certainly won't *object* if it's not on cdimage
[16:39] <ttx> Maverick Bugs affecting server, in other teams:
[16:39] <ttx> I just wanted to raise Bug 563916 - [details.so] No prompt for [S]kip or [M]anual recovery on server boot
[16:39] <ttx> it has apparently a patch posted now
[16:39] <ttx> and affects maverick, but also 10.04.1
[16:39] <ttx> it could use some love.
[16:40]  * cjwatson has to go out, but has loaded that bug for future inspection
[16:40] <ttx> Looking at the burndown chart, we are now headed in the right direction, but definitely with a late start
[16:41] <ttx> questions ?
[16:42] <robbiew> thnx ttx
[16:43] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Desktop
[16:43] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop
[16:43] <seb128> hey
[16:43] <seb128> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:43] <seb128> [LINK]  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:43] <seb128> We had progresses on the software-center, empathy indicator and oneconf specs mostly this week. We are still behind the on alpha3 workitems but we should catch up during the sprint (we can postpone some specs to next cycle if required)
[16:43] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:43] <MootBot> LINK received:   http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:43] <seb128>  
[16:43] <seb128> GNOME is still going through lot of changes for GNOME3. Gsettings and dconf (new gconf equivalent system for GNOME) are on the default install now, watch out for issues with those and better to catch bugs before half the desktop is using it. We will try get the GTK2 updated and start the work on GTK3 next week and should postpone the gobject introspection updates until the new abi stabilize (we try to work with Debian on those changes as well
[16:43] <seb128> ).
[16:43] <seb128>  
[16:43] <seb128> No maverick rc bugs out of build issues, still some of those are not fixed yet but we aim at getting them done by the end of next week
[16:43] <seb128>  
[16:43] <seb128> I would also point that the number of buildds starts being an issue
[16:44] <seb128> the archive builds are delay often by a day when there is a firefox security update or an openjdk upload
[16:44] <seb128> which is every second day nowadays
[16:44] <seb128> delay -> delayed
[16:44] <seb128>  
[16:44] <seb128> that's it from me out of questions ;-)
[16:45] <seb128> (not sure if Riddell is around or ScottK wants to do a kubuntu update)
[16:45]  * ScottK will
[16:45] <ScottK> All going well except we're dead on armel
[16:45] <ScottK> plasma-widget-menubar MIR was approved today, so we're on track to get that in for netbook.
[16:46] <ScottK> we've combined desktop and netbook into one ISO.
[16:46] <ScottK> Still have a bit of cleanup, but that's less to test/manage
[16:46] <ScottK> I'm a bit concerned over pushback I got this week about building armel images for Kubuntu.
[16:47] <ScottK> We've built one since that architecture has been around and I had expected it to continue.
[16:47] <ScottK> The mobile work we're doing is almost entirely aimed at armel.
[16:47] <ScottK> KDE 4.4.92 is packaged and built, so we're on track with upstream.
[16:47] <ScottK> That's it.
[16:48] <robbiew> thnx ScottK
[16:49] <robbiew> any questions for Desktop?
[16:49] <robbiew> [TOPIC] DX
[16:49] <MootBot> New Topic:  DX
[16:49] <njpatel> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:49] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
[16:49] <njpatel> Working on indicators and Unity as per usual
[16:50] <njpatel> appmenu indicator is progressing, though we've got a bug that causes performance issues
[16:50] <njpatel> we're looking into it, next week will help
[16:50] <njpatel> soundmenu is getting better UI, more features
[16:50] <njpatel> -network, -datetime, -me have pretty much stalled due to holidays
[16:50] <njpatel>  
[16:51] <njpatel> Unity has got global search, appindicators integration
[16:51] <njpatel> sub-menu bug was fixed, so we can drop the double menus
[16:51] <njpatel> we are looking into power-usage
[16:51] <njpatel> Mutter seems to be somewhat of a resource hog, so we need to fix that
[16:52] <njpatel> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtscriptgenerator/+bug/600943
[16:52] <njpatel> has been updated
[16:52] <njpatel> agateau spoke to some qt guys and added some info to the bug
[16:52] <njpatel> Alright, i think that's it
[16:53] <njpatel> Oh, I tried to update the blueprints that I could, so the workitem graph thing updates
[16:53] <robbiew> njpatel: heh..."workitem graph thing"
[16:53] <robbiew> thnx njpatel
[16:53] <robbiew> any questions for DX?
[16:54] <njpatel> I know there's a name for it, just can't remember right now :)
[16:54] <robbiew> [TOPIC] ARM
[16:54] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM
[16:55] <ogra> oh, thats me !
[16:55]  * ogra waves arms 
[16:55] <ogra> Detailed status at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
[16:55] <ogra> ...
[16:55] <ogra> Short summary:
[16:55] <ogra>  * massive work on rootstock has been done by rsalveti, plenty of bugs fixed
[16:55] <ogra>  * omap3/4 image speed issues are being debugged and worked on
[16:55] <ogra>  * image build speed improvements for preinstalled images in livecd-rootfs
[16:55] <ogra>  * work on fixing openjdk build failure is going on
[16:55] <ogra>  * ongoing "normal" work on main ftbfs
[16:55] <ogra>  * mobile-m-lightweight-panel-for-efl is currently blocked on a code drop from DX (tedg)
[16:55] <ogra> A3 Status:
[16:55] <ogra> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:55] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-maverick-alpha-3.html
[16:55] <ogra> (sorry for the wrong trendline)
[16:55] <ogra> ...
[16:55] <ogra> A3 targeted specs:
[16:55] <ogra> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-m-image-builds-without-root
[16:55] <ogra> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-m-omap-edid-autodetection
[16:55] <ogra> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-m-lightweight-panel-for-efl
[16:55] <ogra> ...
[16:55] <ogra> There are 9 bugs A3 targeted for A3 currently
[16:55] <ogra> ...
[16:55] <ogra> 1 Blocker Bug:
[16:56] <ogra> bug 605739
[16:57] <ogra> any questions ?
[16:57] <robbiew> thnx ogra
[16:57] <robbiew> [TOPIC] MOTU
[16:57] <MootBot> New Topic:  MOTU
[16:58] <robbiew> ScottK anything to report?
[16:58] <ScottK> Yes
[16:59] <robbiew> the stage is yours :)
[16:59] <ScottK> The buildd backlogs for the last week or two are starting to worry me.
[16:59] <ScottK> I know it will catch up eventually, but in the mean time there is a lot of potential for archive skew problems in Universe.
[17:00] <ScottK> I'm assuming the recent spate of Mozilla security stuff will stop eventually.
[17:01] <ScottK> Python 2.7 worries me as there were a lot of build failures in the rebuild test, it's getting late in the cycle to introduce major new stuff like that and there's not a lot of currently active community expertise to sort out Universe.
[17:01] <ScottK> That's it.
[17:02] <robbiew> thnx...and all noted
[17:02] <ScottK> On a related note, please let sparc die soon.
[17:02] <robbiew> lol
[17:03] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Derivatives - Linaro
[17:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Derivatives - Linaro
[17:04] <robbiew> lool: you covering this week?
[17:05] <robbiew> going once...
[17:05] <ScottK> Probably busy getting me my tool chain updates.
[17:06] <robbiew> heh
[17:06] <robbiew> [TOPIC] 10.04.1
[17:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  10.04.1
[17:06] <robbiew> fader_: still around?
[17:06] <fader_> robbiew: Yo
[17:07] <fader_> robbiew: We've gotten some test results and they all look good, but I haven't put together a report yet
[17:07] <robbiew> okay
[17:07] <fader_> I need to verify that nothing is failing before returning results
[17:07] <robbiew> we can discuss more next week
[17:07] <robbiew> sure
[17:08] <fader_> I will put together a report showing what we have next week
[17:08] <robbiew> thnx
[17:09] <robbiew> I posted *ALL* the targeted bugs...as we are getting close
[17:09] <robbiew> I'll probably start nagging sometime next week...daily... on bugs not fixed
[17:09] <lool> robbiew: Sorry, had other meetings this week, I'm not sure who was expected to cover this week, gah
[17:09] <robbiew> whoohoo
[17:10] <robbiew> lool: no worries
[17:10] <lool> nothing to raise, except toolchain is ready to merge  ;-)
[17:10] <ScottK> \o/
[17:10] <robbiew> you just made ScottK a happy
[17:10] <robbiew> lol
[17:10] <ScottK> Yes.  Please.
[17:11] <lool> [linnk] http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-announce/2010-July/000005.html
[17:11] <lool> (and doko confirmed no blocker remaining)
[17:11]  * ScottK takes the extra "n" and saves it for later.
[17:13] <robbiew> heh
[17:13] <robbiew> [TOPIC] AOB?
[17:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  AOB?
[17:13] <robbiew> the agenda is restored...\o/...heh
[17:13]  * ScottK is amazed how trouble free running Maverick has been.
[17:14] <ScottK> Clearly someone isn't taking the name seriously enough.
[17:14] <ScottK> Keybuk is back from vacation though, so who knows ...
[17:14] <robbiew> lol
[17:15] <robbiew> ScottK: just give it time...you know how it goes...smooth sailing up through the last alpha
[17:15] <robbiew> then everyone rushes to get stuff in
[17:15] <robbiew> and the "fun" begins
[17:15] <robbiew>  :D
[17:15] <ScottK> Yeah, don't update right before the beta freeze.
[17:16] <robbiew> #endmeeting
[17:16] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:16.
[17:16] <robbiew> thnx all!
[17:17] <seb128> thanks
[17:18] <ogra> thanks
[17:34] <lool> robbiew: Ah JamieBennett was packing up to leave for Prague, which is why he couldn't stand here today
[17:35] <robbiew> lool: no worries
[17:37] <robbiew> lool: I suppose it makes sense for him to cover best