[00:00] <chrisccoulson> heh, i found another branch with a stacking problem
[00:01] <chrisccoulson> i've added firefox-3.7.head back until i've fixed any more that i find
[00:02] <chrisccoulson> right, thats the 3.6.7build2 updates done on all releases
[00:03] <micahg> fta: that problem is fixed in lp:firefox
[00:03] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I wonder how the branches got stacked like that
[00:04] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i'm not too sure. i've added it back for now, and i'm just running bzr reconfigure --unstacked on the other branches that are stacked against it
[00:04] <chrisccoulson> we can remove it again once we've fixed them
[00:04] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k
[00:10] <chrisccoulson> asac - you added your changelog entry in to the version that's already uploaded ;)
[00:13] <chrisccoulson> micahg - our debian/control is quite a bit smaller now ;)
[00:13] <micahg> chrisccoulson: for which version?
[00:13] <chrisccoulson> micahg - firefox-3.6.head
[00:14] <ddecator> micahg: oh, before i move more reports to the ppa project, is the idea that all bugs filed by someone using the ppa be moved, or that just bugs affecting a release in the ppa and not the stable release be moved?
[00:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, I wouldn't have removed all of the transitional packages, since .head is used for the dailies, we still need them until Hardy, Jaunty, and Karmic is EOL
[00:15] <chrisccoulson> b'ah, debcommit duplicated asac's changelog entry in my commit because i moved it around
[00:15] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i discussed it with asac briefly earlier, he suggested introducing a source package in to PPA's to provide transitional packages
[00:16] <micahg> ddecator: any report about a version in a PPA that's not the mozilla-security PPA, i.e. anything with a ~ in it
[00:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok, that's probably a better idea :)
[00:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'll try to do that over the weekend then
[00:16] <ddecator> micahg: alright, just wanted to make sure i moved the right ones. i'll work on that when i get time
[00:16] <chrisccoulson> micahg - cool, thanks
[00:16] <micahg> fta: would you be able to make me a member of the umd team?
[00:18] <asac> chrisccoulson: omg
[00:18] <asac> man i am too much out of this ;)
[00:18] <asac> should i uncommit ?
[00:18] <chrisccoulson> asac - no worries, i fixed it in the commit i just did
[00:18] <asac> i missed it up completely ;)
[00:19] <asac> even the add/update lines were collapsed
[00:19] <chrisccoulson> heh, no worries ;)
[00:19]  * asac runs away in shame
[00:20] <asac> chrisccoulson: committed changelog syntax fix ;)
[00:20] <asac> after all i need a few commits ;)
[00:22] <asac> chrisccoulson: oh ... the patch i committed i should upstream ;)
[00:22] <asac> bug me if you dont see me changing the patch to contain the mozilla version soon
[00:22] <fta> micahg, i'm not the owner, asac is
[00:22] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, thanks :)
[00:23] <asac> micahg: what about (owner?)
[00:23] <micahg> asac: umd
[00:23] <asac> what do you need?
[00:23] <micahg> asac: I just wanted to be added so I can upload
[00:23] <asac> hmm. from what i understand chris wanted to take over the whole bot ;)
[00:24] <asac> i think its smarter as he might have the powers to move that to a data center machine at some point ;)
[00:24] <micahg> heh
[00:24] <chrisccoulson> awesome, the hardy daily builds work again :)
[00:33] <micahg> jdstrand: would you be able to look at my package set addition request tomorrow?
[00:37] <micahg> fta_: can you reenable umd?
[00:37] <micahg> asac: until then, can you add me so that I can upload?
 i also said i'll kill the bot
 i didn't, but i should
[00:40] <fta> micahg, ^^
[00:41] <fta> +have
[00:41] <micahg> fta: ah, ok :), thanks, I'll get the builds scored up again tonight, chromium-daily as well :)
[00:43] <fta> micahg, i'm not evil, i'm just angry
[00:43] <micahg> fta: I know, I'm trying to help where I can at the moment
[00:45] <fta> micahg, if the lp thing was a new problem, i wouldn't make such a fuss, but it's a recurring issue, cycle after cycle, they don't care
[00:46] <fta> seems soren is angry about the same thing
[00:46] <micahg> fta: indeed, well, LP seemed to be running on autopilot for the most part for a couple days which didn't help
[00:47] <fta> by cycle, i meant, maverick, lucid, ..;
[00:47] <fta> not just days
[00:47] <micahg> fta: oh, I know, I remember this last cycle
[00:47] <ddecator> the build score issue?
[00:48] <micahg> fta: BTW, you're an admin of the umd team, so you can add people as well
[00:51] <micahg> ddecator: yes, the PPAs get overloaded when rebuilds happened and they're not always scored low
[00:51] <ddecator> micahg: gotcha
[00:52] <micahg> fta: BTW, I had upstream fix the 1.9.2.8/3.6.8 dailies on Lucid/Maverick so they shouldn't FTBFS again
[00:56] <micahg> fta: thanks :)
[00:57] <fta> i was looking at the wrong place. on the right, there was just "leave the team", no "add member"
[04:19] <ripps> ooh... when is chromium-daily/dev gonna get synced? I desperately want that cairo flickering bug fixed.
[07:21] <DanaG> update-alternatives: error: alternative path /usr/bin/firefox-4.0 doesn't exist.
[07:21] <DanaG> hmm.
[07:21] <DanaG> That's on lucid amd64.
[07:21] <micahg> DanaG: yeah, should be fixed in tonight's build
[07:21] <DanaG> Sweet.
[07:26] <DanaG> ah, meaning it'll be in dailies by tomorrow?  If so, sweet.
[07:27] <DanaG> Oh yeah, and thunderbird-3.1 in dailies hasn't been updated in, oh, this year.
[07:27] <DanaG> Version: 3.1~a1~hg20091221r4576+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1
[07:27] <micahg> DanaG: yes
[07:27] <micahg> DanaG: yeah, I need to figure that out soon
[07:28] <DanaG> And it was a pain trying to find a 64-bit build of lightning to go with it... I eventually just put 32-bit thunderbird-3.1 in /opt
[07:29] <micahg> DanaG: I'm hoping to push lightning with TB3.1 to maverick early next month
[07:30] <DanaG> Hmm, how about Lucid?  If need be, I can just grab the Maverick packages.
[07:30] <micahg> DanaG: will probably go to Lucid after some testing in Maverick and PPAs
[07:31] <DanaG> PPA is good.  Thanks.
[09:33] <micahg> hi chrisccoulson
[09:34] <micahg> good morning :)
[09:34] <chrisccoulson> hi micahg
[09:34] <chrisccoulson> how are you?
[09:34] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do you remember why we didn't have transitional  packages for xul191 in lucid?
[09:34] <micahg> chrisccoulson: tired :), should have been asleep a couple hours ago, but alas, not :)
[09:36] <micahg> chrisccoulson: how are you?
[09:36] <chrisccoulson> heh, Xorg just crashed
[09:36] <chrisccoulson> i'm good thanks
[09:36] <chrisccoulson> for xul191 -> xul192, we shouldn't need transitional packages as their dependencies should pull the new package in, and they are parallel installable
[09:37] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yes, but the current issue is xul191 breaks eclipse in lucid, bdrung was going to add a breaks, but pitti thinks xul192 should handle it so we don't have xuls cluttering up people's systems
[09:37] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure about that
[09:38] <chrisccoulson> i think eclipse should be fixed to not use xul191, like we've had to do with other applications in hardy -> karmic
[09:38] <micahg> k, I'm too tired to think too deeply about it, can you chat w/pitti about it?
[09:38] <chrisccoulson> yeah, can do
[09:38] <micahg> chrisccoulson: we did that, but it wasn't working right, and then they pulled the code that did that
[09:39] <micahg> they = Debian eclipse maintainers
[09:54] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I have a build fix for the crash reporter which I'll add in when I wake up, it needs a curl dev lib, I'm doing a local test build now
[09:54] <micahg> that'll cut down on the number of bugs for us :)
[09:56] <micahg> chrisccoulson: tty in a few hours
[09:56] <chrisccoulson> micahg - cool, ok. will see you later!
[10:49] <asac> !test
[10:49] <ubot2> hrm?
[10:49] <asac> thx
[10:57] <chrisccoulson> asac - i had a look at your comments from yesterday about splitting the xulrunner package for UNE
[10:57] <chrisccoulson> and then i thought....
[10:57] <chrisccoulson> ....whatever we do won't work anyway
[10:58] <chrisccoulson> as applications still need to discover where mozjs is (either by doing the xulrunner --gre-version hack or by using the xpcom glue)
[10:58] <chrisccoulson> and so they still need xulrunner to exist on the system
[10:58] <chrisccoulson> so, bundling mozjs in couchdb might be the better option
[11:01] <asac> chrisccoulson: not sure what you mean. if we package mozjs independent we can maintain the soname
[11:01] <asac> etc.
[11:01] <asac> and put it in /usr/lib
[11:02] <chrisccoulson> asac - so, debian are maintaining there own SO name? (and just bumping it every time there's an ABI change)
[11:02] <asac> yes
[11:02] <asac> there is a bug that would just export public symbols
[11:03] <asac> with that we might have some chance to maintain it
[11:03] <asac> debian currently tries to maintain it without that fix
[11:03] <asac> but well. i really think its setting wrong signal until mozilla agrees that they want this to be exported
[11:03] <asac> so lets try to include mozjs in couch
[11:03] <asac> and get over it
[11:04] <asac> could also be statically linked in there
[11:05] <asac> hmm. android checkout is 4.2G ;)
[11:05] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, i'll have a chat with the couchdb guys too
[11:06] <chrisccoulson> who's looking after that?
[11:06] <asac> they are crazy
[11:06] <asac> ;)
[11:06] <asac> chrisccoulson: you mean the couchdb package? thats kenvandine most likely
[11:06] <asac> it was forced into ubuntu through online services ;)
[11:06] <asac> and then got picked up by many things unfortunately :((
[11:07] <asac> i think upstream already includes mozjs in their tree
[11:07] <asac> so we just dont need to strip it ;)
[11:07] <asac> and ship it _the ugly way_ tm
[11:08] <asac> maybe latest couchdb can already be built with javascriptcore?
[11:09] <asac> hmm. seems not :(
[11:09] <asac> at least not what is in maverick according to configure
[11:12] <chrisccoulson> asac - are you still going to be looking after ubufox btw?
[11:12] <chrisccoulson> i've got a search plugin to add here ;)
[11:13] <asac> chrisccoulson: baidu?
[11:13] <chrisccoulson> asac - yeah
[11:13] <asac> we shouldnt put it in ubufox
[11:13] <asac> rather in the langpack-o-matic database
[11:13] <asac> for cn
[11:14] <asac> hmm. damn i forgot the hostname of that ;)
[11:15] <asac> was that macquearie
[11:15] <asac> or something
[11:15] <chrisccoulson> asac - oh, i wasn't sure whether we want to add it for all users, or just chinese users
[11:15] <asac> chrisccoulson: look at http://www.baidu.com/
[11:15] <asac> i dont think anyone wants that ;)
[11:15] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i saw already ;)
[11:15] <asac> unless you want to encourage ubuntu users to read chinese ;)
[11:16] <chrisccoulson> lol
[11:16] <asac> so yeah. we want to add it for chinese folks only ... and make it only for chinese the default
[11:16] <asac> the default change we could do in ubufox
[11:16] <asac> but isnt mozilla even shipping baidu by default for cn upstream?
[11:17] <chrisccoulson> asac - i'm not sure what they ship
[11:17] <chrisccoulson> we can discuss that at the sprint next week anyway
[11:17] <asac> yep. lets do that
[11:17] <asac> i have to wait for arne input on the hostname anyway ... just cant remember :((
[15:13] <asac> chrisccoulson: another sec update building ;)?
[15:13] <asac> just saw that you block the builders :-P
[15:13] <chrisccoulson> asac - yeah, i'm just hogging the builders ;)
[15:13] <asac> ah its build2
[15:13] <asac> cool
[15:13] <asac> you are on top :-P
[15:14] <chrisccoulson> and i'm about to rebase openjdk from doko's latest upload to lucid-proposed, which fixes an armel build failure
[15:14] <chrisccoulson> so, the builders are going to be loaded with openjdk too ;)
[15:14] <chrisccoulson> they've got all weekend to catch up though
[15:14] <asac> they already are
[15:14] <asac>   3698369  [building]  Building i386 build of openjdk-6 6b18-1.8-4ubuntu2 in ubuntu lucid PROPOSED
[15:14] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's doko's latest upload
[15:14] <asac> chrisccoulson: you could upload it late EOD ;)
[15:15] <asac> chrisccoulson: problem is that security ppa has now a higher default build score than normal archive
[15:15] <asac> so you have to be a bit more sensible ;) ... otherwise its not fair
[15:15] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'll wait until EOD for openjdk ;)
[15:16] <chrisccoulson> else i will be popular for all the wrong reasons ;)
[15:17] <fta> chrisccoulson, is your openjdk in sync with debian?
[15:17] <fta> i need a fix in there
[15:17] <chrisccoulson> fta - i'm not sure, i don't maintain openjdk
[15:17] <chrisccoulson> doko will know that though
[15:18] <asac> if its not in sync it would show up in MoM, no?
[15:18] <asac> no merges for openjdk ... guess its blacklisted ;)
[15:18] <fta> bug 529242
[15:18] <asac> hell. i have many outstanding merges ;)
[15:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 529242 in chromium-browser (Mandriva) (and 4 other projects) "chromium doesn't recognize icedtea6-plugin (affects: 13) (dups: 1) (heat: 105)" [Unknown,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529242
[15:19] <fta> i need the fix for debian 576361
[15:19] <ubot2> Debian bug 576361 in icedtea6-plugin "Please don't link the plugin against libxpcom, libxul, etc." [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/576361
[15:19] <asac> oh right. i did a all-main rebuild for armel last cycle :-P
[15:21] <asac> fta: otherwise chromium cannot use jdk?
[15:22] <asac> !info openjdk
[15:22] <asac> !info openjdk maverick
[15:22] <asac> !info openjdk openjdk-6-jre
[15:22] <asac> !info openjdk-6-jre maverick
[15:22] <asac> man i suck ;)
[15:22] <ubot2> asac: Package openjdk does not exist in lucid
[15:22] <ubot2> asac: Package openjdk does not exist in maverick
[15:22] <ubot2> asac: 'openjdk-6-jre' is not a valid distribution: hardy, jaunty, karmic, lucid, maverick
[15:22] <ubot2> asac: openjdk-6-jre (source: openjdk-6): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT. In component main, is extra. Version 6b20~pre1-0ubuntu2 (maverick), package size 252 kB, installed size 816 kB
[15:22] <asac> !info openjdk-6-jre debian
[15:22] <ubot2> asac: 'debian' is not a valid distribution: hardy, jaunty, karmic, lucid, maverick
[15:23] <asac> should be fixed
[15:23] <asac> we are at b20 ... debian fix was at b18
[15:23] <asac> 6b18-1.8-4
[15:23] <asac> but you never know if doko synched the packaging too
[15:23] <asac> but i would assume he did that
[15:25] <fta> asac, i asked in the bug, got no answer
[15:26] <asac> fta: what makes you believe its not fixed?
[15:26] <asac> i would assume its fixed unless you have strong evidence that its not
[16:06] <fta> asac, "what makes you believe its not fixed?" => users complaining :)
[16:06] <fta> it's needed in lucid++
[16:06] <asac> fta: what are the symptoms
[16:06] <asac> ?
[16:08] <fta> it's in the bug: the plugin doesn't load (because it's linked against libxul while it shouldnt and the lib is unreachable)
[16:08] <fta> asac, ^^
[16:09] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: stupid chromium bug
[16:09] <BUGabundo_remote> open a new clean profile
[16:09] <BUGabundo_remote> changed proxy settings in one of them
[16:09] <BUGabundo_remote> it changes ALL of the profiles
[16:11] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, did you file a bug?
[16:11] <BUGabundo_remote> not yet
[16:12] <BUGabundo_remote> just found it 3h ago
[16:12] <BUGabundo_remote> but I'm scrathing my head
[16:12] <BUGabundo_remote> on HOW is this even possbile
[16:45] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I had to kill my test build as I ran out of disk space, should I try it again before commiting the fix for the crashreporter?
[16:48] <chrisccoulson> micahg - don't worry about it, i'll do a test build before the next upload anyway
[16:48] <chrisccoulson> (and it will be in the dailies too)
[16:48] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I didn't know if you wanted to upload today, that's why, ok, I'll commit to 3.6 and 4.0 branches
[16:49] <micahg> chrisccoulson: any difference with using openssl curl vs gnutls curl?
[16:56] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i'm not sure about any difference. they are both on the CD though
[16:56] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I"m using the openssl library then
[17:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, pushed
[17:16] <DanaG> hmm, firefox 4.0 still broken.
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> micahg - cool, thanks
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> DanaG, broken in what way?
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> the PPA builders are a little behind, if you need fixes, then you could try building yourself from the packaging in bzr
[17:18]  * micahg looks at the builds
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> micahg - 8 hours ;)
[17:18] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yeah
[17:21] <chrisccoulson> micahg - so, firefox sync doesn't actually work in our FF4.0 builds (using the extension from upstream)
[17:21] <chrisccoulson> it fails to initialize NSS
[17:21] <DanaG> Ah. So how much longer to wait?
[17:21] <chrisccoulson> DanaG, at the moment, ages ;)
[17:21] <DanaG> "still broken" referring to the same "alternative doesn't exist" thing.
[17:21] <DanaG> ah, then I'll just apt-get source and dpkg-buildpackage.
[17:21] <chrisccoulson> DanaG, install the firefox-3.7 package
[17:22] <chrisccoulson> that should work around that
[17:22] <chrisccoulson> the symlinks are in the wrong package
[17:22] <DanaG> Ah, thanks.
[17:22] <DanaG> That worked.
[17:24] <micahg> chrisccoulson: idk why sync doesn't work
[17:25] <chrisccoulson> micahg - "couldn't open library" at let nsslib = ctypes.open(nssfile.path);
[17:25] <chrisccoulson> in WeaveCrypto.js
[17:26] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do we need the nss symlink is xul20?
[17:26] <chrisccoulson> oh, apparantly it writes that path to the console, 1 second
[17:27] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, perhaps it doesn't
[17:27] <chrisccoulson> it's a shame this happens as the component registers, i don't think i can catch that in venkman can i?
[17:27]  * micahg doesn't know
[17:28] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i need to insert a break there when it loads, which can only happen when the browser opens
[17:28] <chrisccoulson> that sucks
[17:28] <micahg> chrisccoulson: gdb?
[17:29] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i need to debug the JS code really
[17:29] <chrisccoulson> although
[17:29] <chrisccoulson> i suppose i could look at strace
[17:29] <chrisccoulson> and see where it's searching for the NSS components
[17:30] <Mook_sb> http://hg.mozilla.org/services/fx-sync/file/f5293dc0b4dd/services/crypto/WeaveCrypto.js#l109 ? has logging on line 134 if you toggle the bit on line 60
[17:30] <AnAnt> asac: Hello, are you there ?
[17:30] <Mook_sb> also: probably wherever libxul lives, and not system nss
[17:31] <AnAnt> why does Ubuntu build nspluginwrapper for i386 arch ?
[17:32] <chrisccoulson> Mook_sb, thanks. i got confused there. i saw "debug : true" as being enabled, and then wondered why i didn't get any output ;)
[17:32] <chrisccoulson> i'll change that and try again
[17:32] <chrisccoulson> oh, hang on
[17:32] <chrisccoulson> true = enabled isn't it?
[17:32] <Mook_sb> chrisccoulson: huh, no, then it should be enabled, yes - http://hg.mozilla.org/services/fx-sync/file/f5293dc0b4dd/services/crypto/WeaveCrypto.js#l95
[17:33] <Mook_sb> you have the browser.dom.window.dump.enabled pref set to true?
[17:33] <chrisccoulson> Mook_sb, i'll check
[17:33] <Mook_sb> (either way, it should also be showing up in -jsconsole ...)
[17:49] <micahg> jdstrand: would you be able to look at my package set addition request today?
[17:52] <micahg> fta: doko uploaded your fix from Debian to lucid-proposed
[18:00] <fta> great
[18:08] <gnomefreak> anyone notice firefox-4.0 is not a command. at least it says that for me. I removed 3.7 (just to keep system clean
[18:08] <gnomefreak> )
[18:10] <jdstrand> micahg: what are you referring to?
[18:10]  * jdstrand feels dense
[18:10] <micahg> jdstrand: I opened a bug for the archive admins requesting 6 packages be added to the mozilla package set
[18:11] <micahg> gnomefreak: yeah, install firefox-3.7 until the next update
[18:11] <micahg> gnomefreak: I goofed in teh packaging and we haven't had a good build yet
[18:12] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok thanks
[18:13] <micahg> jdstrand: bug 605453
[18:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 605453 in weave (Ubuntu) (and 5 other projects) "Please add to the Mozilla Package Set (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605453
[18:37] <jdstrand> micahg: so I am lookiing at the bug, and I don't know what you are talking about
[18:37] <micahg> jdstrand: it's a request to add packages to the package set, I was told the archvie admins were delegated this task
[18:38] <jdstrand> micahg: I don't what a 'package set' is. sorry
[18:38]  * jdstrand feels dense
[18:39] <jdstrand> micahg: oh, you mean for the whole archive reoganization?
[18:39]  * jdstrand is getting it
[18:39] <micahg> jdstrand: well, part of it, I have a Mozilla package set now
[18:39] <jdstrand> so that ubuntu-mozillateam can fiddle with these
[18:39] <micahg> jdstrand: so I can upload a limited number of packages
[18:40] <micahg> jdstrand: well, ubuntu-mozilla-uploaders, but yes :)
[18:40] <jdstrand> micahg: can you point me to a wiki page that tells me how to do this?
[18:41]  * micahg doesn't know if there is one...cjwatson set it up originally
[18:41] <jdstrand> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration should list how to do it, but it does not
[18:41] <gnomefreak> ok anyone have a clue on how to add boot options?
[19:11]  * gnomefreak wonders if redhat has bash scripting classes. i know simple bash and i understand more advanced but not how to impliment it
[20:03] <micahg> jdstrand: what do I do, should I subscribe the TB?
[20:04] <jdstrand> micahg: possibly, though I think asking cjwatson how to proceed would be best
[20:05] <micahg> jdstrand: sorry for the trouble
[20:05] <jdstrand> np
[20:11] <chrisccoulson> micahg - the FF-sync issue is because the extension tries to load libnss3.so from the GRE folder
[20:12] <chrisccoulson> but i don't really want to add symlinks in there, after the issues we had with similar symlinks in thunderbird
[20:12] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ugh, seems like we need a patch for something then
[20:12] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'll try and see what i can do ;)
[20:22] <LLStarks> fta, you there?
[20:22] <LLStarks> hey chris
[20:25] <LLStarks> anyway, firefox 4.0 packages are still a bit messed up. http://paste.ubuntu.com/464672/
[20:25] <micahg> LLStarks: after the dailies finish building they shoudl be fine
[20:25] <micahg> LLStarks: install firefox-3.7
[20:25] <LLStarks> not touching firefox 3.7 or 4.0 again until that addon menu dies
[20:26] <LLStarks> or extension compatability can be overriden
[20:26] <micahg> LLStarks: after tonight, it should be fine, but some files accidentally got into firefox-3.7
[20:26] <LLStarks> oh
[20:26]  * micahg would update topic, but will be resolved w/in 7 hrs
[20:28] <gnomefreak> micahg: 3.1 is Maverick or are we waiting for 11.04?
[20:37] <micahg> gnomefreak: 3.1 will be in Maverick early next month hopefully
[20:37] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok thanks. let me know when testing can start
[20:38] <micahg> gnomefreak: as soon as you see it in the dailies :)
[20:38] <gnomefreak> oops makes alot of sense
[20:39] <micahg> gnomefreak: there's an installer bug ATM where the binaries aren't installed
[20:39] <gnomefreak> damn