[06:30] <ara> good morning!
[15:19] <moustafa> cr3, davmor2, fader_ : Jacques Cousteau!
[15:19] <davmor2> moustafa: hello
[15:19] <fader_> moustafa: Baguette!
[15:20] <moustafa> fader_ hon! hon!
[15:23]  * davmor2 throws in Snails, frogs legs, garlic and onions for good measure
[17:17] <hggdh> anybody tried the daily server (20100716.2)?
[17:24] <fader_> hggdh: It doesn't install due to dependency issues
[17:24] <fader_> hggdh: I didn't report a bug because cyphermox pointed out to me that it's been fixed already :)
[17:24] <fader_> (Just not respun)
[17:25] <fader_> hggdh: Is that what you're seeing?
[17:28] <hggdh> fader_: indeed, thank kyou
[17:28] <fader_> hggdh: O
[17:28] <fader_> er
[17:28] <fader_> hggdh: I'm here for you
[17:29] <hggdh> fader_: et une baguette...
[17:29] <fader_> :)
[17:29] <hggdh> :-)
[17:29] <hggdh> fader_: so another ISO build in the works?
[17:30] <fader_> hggdh: No idea, actually
[17:30] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu alternate's are the same way
[17:35] <sbeattie> hggdh: unless prompted in #ubuntu-release, I kinda doubt they'll respin.
[17:35] <hggdh> sbeattie: OK, I will drop back to last good spin
[17:35] <sbeattie> hggdh: well, you could always ask for a respin.
[17:36] <hggdh> sbeattie: not really needed for me, Eucalyptus is still hosed on this image (I am just adjusting the preseeds, so I can run with an older ISO)
[17:37] <charlie-tca> Apparently, the only images available today are Ubuntu Daily-live from the 14th
[17:38] <charlie-tca> hggdh: server has 16.2 available, are they broke?
[17:38] <hggdh> charlie-tca: yes, dependency issue on bind9 and some others
[17:39] <charlie-tca> I see.
[17:40] <hggdh> charlie-tca: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/464612/
[17:40] <charlie-tca> What a deal! No images for Ubuntu or Xubuntu, broken server images...
[17:41] <hggdh> heh.  Not a good Friday...
[17:42] <charlie-tca> If they get the fixes in, though, we could have images tomorrow, huh?
[17:42] <hggdh> yes indeed
[17:43] <fader_> Don't think of it as a problem... think of it as an opportunity to test the error messages in the installers :)
[17:44] <charlie-tca> I was thinking this is a great day to upgrade to maverick, since the images aren't there to test anyway!
[19:22] <fader_> Hankyone: How are the lucid installs going?
[19:24] <Hankyone> fader_: all done
[19:24] <fader_> Hankyone: Cool, feel like trying to break a few? :)
[19:25] <Hankyone> fader_: sounds fun
[19:25] <fader_> Hankyone: Here's the PPA that YokoZar pointed me at: https://launchpad.net/~scottritchie/+archive/ppa
[19:25] <fader_> My guess is you'll need to install all 4 of those packages
[19:26] <davmor2> Hankyone: Don't believe fader_ he'll have you cleaning up the mess you create after,  that kills all the fun from breaking stuff
[19:26] <fader_> Hankyone: Can you do that on one of the machines and then do:
[19:26] <fader_> grep -ir wine-3dmark2000 /usr/share/checkbox
[19:26] <fader_> And see if anything shows up?
[19:26] <Hankyone> fader_: Should I install the nvidia drivers first?
[19:27] <fader_> davmor2: Nah, breaking stuff in the lab is fun 'cos you can always wipe and reinstall :)
[19:27] <fader_> Hankyone: Yes, please... good catch ;)
[19:27] <Hankyone> davmor2: Since i'm an intern, if I break something i'll just run :p
[19:27] <fader_> Hankyone: We need to have the proprietary drivers installed, I think, but the order doesn't matter -- you can install the packages from that PPA first if you prefer
[19:28] <fader_> Hankyone: Careful, davmor2 is a trained tracker
[19:28] <Hankyone> I do Parkour so i might stand a chance ;)
[19:29] <davmor2> Hankyone: No that's the wrong attitude.  What you do is is look wide eyed, open your mouth, and point a fader_ if anyone ask you say I can't believe what he did
[19:29] <fader_> Hehe
[19:30] <davmor2> Hankyone: Just snipper you from a high building it's quicker and easier than running after you
[19:31] <Hankyone> I can dodge bullets, yes i'm that good
[19:31] <davmor2> haha
[19:35] <fader_> He is The One!
[19:48] <davmor2> What he's half a dozen Jet-li's fighting to become the the only survivor?
[20:09] <fader_> Hankyone: Any luck with the PPA?
[20:30] <Hankyone> fader_: everything is installed and grep finds a 3dmark line in wine.txt
[20:30] <fader_> Hankyone: rockin'!
[20:30] <fader_> Hankyone: I think it's time to fire up checkbox and run that test!
[20:30] <Hankyone> on it
[20:30] <fader_> Hankyone: Just run standard checkbox and you can deselect everything except the wine tests
[20:30] <fader_> No need to run through a full set of tests, I think
[20:32] <Hankyone> k
[20:37] <Hankyone> fader_: nothing happens when i start the tests, it grabs the lspci and stuff then moves on to submit the result but fails with the message "inconsistent message" then I click ok and try sending the results again and it did without trouble
[20:38] <Hankyone> all skipped accord to https://certification.canonical.com/hardware/200910-4254/submission/UTLW56xqb75MB1Q
[20:49] <fader_> Hankyone: Hmm, and you had the wine tests selected?
[20:49] <Hankyone> yes
[20:50] <Hankyone> wine-3dmark2000	wine	Unsupported	Job requirements not met.
[20:50] <fader_> Aha
[20:50] <fader_> Hankyone: What are the "requires" and "depends" on that test?  (You should be able to find it by opening /usr/share/checkbox/jobs/wine.txt probably)
[20:55] <Hankyone> fader_: http://paste2.org/p/917157
[20:55] <fader_> Hankyone: Cool, thanks.  Can you do an apt-get install of all the packages listed in those requirements?
[20:56] <fader_> My guess is one or more of them are not installed.
[20:56] <Hankyone> all right
[21:01] <Hankyone> Fader_: You were right, both subversion and cabextract were not installed
[21:01] <fader_> \o/
[21:02] <Hankyone> wine is running great so far
[21:02] <fader_> Hankyone: Okay, we probably need to remove the old checkbox files
[21:02] <fader_> IIRC they're in ~/.cache/checkbox -- if that exists, can you rm -rf it and then re-run checkbox?
[21:03] <fader_> (If it doesn't exist let me know as we need to find it and remove it)
[21:08] <Hankyone> fader_: does not exist, could it be /home/<user>/.checkbox?
[21:10] <fader_> Hankyone: Hmm, try "rm -rf ~/.checkbox ~/.cache/checkbox"
[21:11] <fader_> That should get anything that's there
[21:21] <fader_> Go, Hankyone, go!  Crash that system!
[21:21]  * fader_ does a little 'crash that system' dance.
[21:28] <Hankyone> fader_: apparently when the screen goes into standby and ubuntu asks for the password, it breaks the 3dmark test
[21:28] <fader_> Hankyone: breaks as in the test aborts?
[21:29] <Hankyone> 3dmark pops a box but the text doesn't appear so i don't really know what's going on
[21:29] <Hankyone> I disabled the screensaver and any power saving feature that might screwup the test on a system so we'll see
[21:35] <fader_> Hankyone: Perfect
[21:35] <fader_> Hankyone: We'll see what happens... it may or may not crash the system anyway
[21:36] <fader_> Those 5 systems that I pointed out to you are a guess... all, none, or some of them might crash, we'll have to wait and see
[21:36] <fader_> Hankyone: Will you be around on Monday?
[21:37] <Hankyone> fader_: I will
[21:37] <fader_> Hankyone: Cool... mind picking up the other systems on that list on Monday and see if any of those crash?
[21:38] <fader_> You'll probably have to email me and let me know... I'll be in a different time zone
[21:40] <Hankyone> I ran the test on the others aswell
[21:40] <fader_> Dude, you rock
[21:41] <fader_> :D
[21:42] <Hankyone> No crash except the two that broke because of the login screen, will run it again to make sure
[21:45] <fader_> Hankyone: Okay, thanks... if none of those crash we'll have to expand our search and see what else we can try :)
[21:48] <Hankyone> https://certification.canonical.com/hardware/200912-4895/submission/BmP7T04U75Q9lzL/results?form.status=PASS
[22:05]  * fader_ calls it a week.
[22:05] <fader_> Have a good one everybody!
[22:05] <YokoZar> fader_: hey :)
[22:05] <Hankyone> fader_: take care!
[22:06] <fader_> YokoZar: Heh, just caught me :)
[22:06] <fader_> YokoZar: Hankyone tested out the 5 systems that I tracked down in the lab that had nvidia graphics from 2009, but no dice on crashes
[22:06] <fader_> YokoZar: I'll spread my search parameters a bit and try to find some more likely candidates for him to test
[22:07] <YokoZar> fader_: Hmm, interesting -- 3dmark was running right?
[22:07] <fader_> YokoZar: Hankyone claims it was... I have to believe him :)
[22:08] <YokoZar> fader_: as in it spewed out a 3dmarks number for test results ;)
[22:08] <Hankyone> YokoZar: It was running great actually
[22:08] <fader_> YokoZar: E.g. 3dmark2000_3DMark_Result	11664	3D_marks
[22:08] <fader_> 3dmark2000_CPU_Speed	921	CPU_3D_marks
[22:08] <YokoZar> Lucid with proprietary drivers?
[22:08] <fader_> Is that the expected output?
[22:08] <YokoZar> Yeah, although obviously the numbers vary :)
[22:08] <fader_> YokoZar: Yep, 10.04 LTS, proprietary nvidia drivers
[22:09] <YokoZar> Ok, interesting, I'll get some more specific specs on the machines in question, but thanks for doing this :)
[22:10] <YokoZar> I can extend the test suite to include later 3dmarks too :)
[22:10] <fader_> YokoZar: Cool, let us know if you find out anything.  As I said I'll try to find some other systems for Hankyone to test... maybe we just got [un]lucky on those particular ones and the next batch will give better results
[22:10] <YokoZar> Yeah.  It might even be an intermittent crash in some cases, though on at least one machine it was happening every time
[22:10] <fader_> YokoZar: We might want to end up stealing some of those tests anyway, if you're cool with it... more tests are always a Good Thing :)
[22:10] <YokoZar> For sure, I'd like these to be a part of the regular process
[22:11] <YokoZar> and historically Wine has been the most likely thing to crash/freeze X ;)
[22:11] <fader_> Heheh
[22:11] <fader_> Yeah, sounds like a good thing to test then
[22:11] <fader_> Okay, I'm outta here for the weekend... see you folks later!
[22:11] <fader_> *bamf*