[02:38] <TanEk> hi is there someone working on the packages chromium-browser?
[08:15] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717071434-5uv6g1vv361v4hha * src/libs/ (SyncDaemon.cpp SyncDaemon.h) Add some (temporary share magic) - not sure if this really will stay - SyncDaemonShareManager is totally an option IMHO
[08:15] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717071531-nw95x3ntyosecxxc * src/share/ (4 files) SharePropertiesWidget++ (allows setting a share name and access level)
[08:17] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717071559-k7djzaesuh0g7ulx * src/share/ (4 files) Derive from KAssistantDialog, build pages out of kdirselectdialog our contactselector and the sharepropertieswidget. Combined with the syncdaemon class enhancements this makes ubuntuone-share now sort of working \o/
[08:19] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717071905-b8c0ngnm0653nsvd * src/libs/SyncDaemon.h warning++
[08:50] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/u1-share.ogv
[11:04] <jussi> yay for maverick evilness
[11:04] <jussi> Ive got the nvidia binaries installed, but:
[11:04] <jussi> jussi@Galaxy:~$ glxgears 
[11:04] <jussi> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:04] <jussi> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[11:05]  * jussi runs nvidia-xconfig and restarts...
[11:08] <ulysses> arghh, something eats all CPU again, the load is 7.81:(
[11:10] <jussi> ahh, much better
[11:50] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717105038-3qgu6ej9i7tt7y8c * src/share/ (ubuntuone-share.desktop CMakeLists.txt) Add ubuntuone-share desktop file
[11:51] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717105059-p9k29mv5lt1i0jmr * src/statusnotifier/ (StatusNotifier.cpp StatusNotifier.h) hookup statusnotifier with ubuntuone-share
[11:51] <Quintasan> \o
[11:54] <apachelogger> lo Quintasan
[11:54] <apachelogger> does anyone know what KDE is lacking with regards to LTSP?
[11:55] <shadeslayer> \o
[12:10] <shadeslayer> jussi: you didnt need to restart btw :)
[12:10] <shadeslayer> just log out and alt+e 
[12:10] <shadeslayer> or alt+x .. i dont exactly remember
[12:10] <jussi> ahh yeah, takes same amount of time
[12:10] <jussi> alt+e is correct
[12:11] <shadeslayer> jussi: plymouth must be all screwy now
[12:12] <jussi> shadeslayer: plymouth didnt work in any case - it gets killed by a kill signal (320)
[12:12] <shadeslayer> heh
[12:12] <jussi> no that I know what that means
[12:12] <shadeslayer> 320 == pid of plymouth i guess
[12:12] <jussi> its annoying - Id like to have plymouth
[12:13] <shadeslayer> i have no idea to inner workings of plymouth :P
[12:14] <shadeslayer> hmm.. i think rekonq doesnt need a merge
[12:22]  * shadeslayer pokes apachelogger for not uploading digikam
[12:22] <apachelogger> doesnt qualify for immediate upload
[12:23] <shadeslayer> ok :P
[12:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: need your opinion on rekonq
[12:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://merges.ubuntu.com/r/rekonq/REPORT
[12:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what does apachelogger see there?
[12:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: uh.. the conflicting files?
[12:30] <apachelogger> and how does that involve a opinion?
[12:30] <shadeslayer> the part after genrated result
[12:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because i want to be sure that rekonq doesnt need merging?
[12:31] <shadeslayer> those 4 files are modified by 2 patches introduced by us
[12:31] <apachelogger> take a look yourself?
[12:33] <shadeslayer> :S
[12:33] <shadeslayer> ive already looked
[12:33] <shadeslayer> just making sure
[12:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, what do you conclude?
[12:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: imo it doesnt need merging,because those ubuntu changes cannot be dropped
[12:34] <apachelogger> cannot drop changes -> merge
[12:34] <apachelogger> what you said does not make sense :P
[12:35]  * shadeslayer drinks more coffee to make sense
[12:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok .. and btw should rekonq have its own branch in bzr now,since its in main?
[12:36] <apachelogger> if you deem it necessary
[12:37] <apachelogger> being in main is usually not reason enough for a branch
[12:37] <shadeslayer> hmm ok..
[12:37] <apachelogger> but if a packager feels it is good to have or if a lot of different people happen to work on the package
[12:37] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/464942/
[12:37] <apachelogger> I agree with the need to merge
[12:39]  * apachelogger ponders creating a model/view for authenticated u1 devices
[12:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok
[12:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw any ideas on how to enable previews for all folders by default in dolphin?
[12:49] <apachelogger> are we doing that? Oo
[12:49]  * apachelogger thinks peter's reasoning for not having it default seems fairly reasonable
[12:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: uh.. it was in the ML yes,but i want to enable it on my machine 
[12:49] <apachelogger> oh
[12:49] <apachelogger> just turn it on in the settings :P
[12:50] <apachelogger> somewhere there is a checkbox for apply setting globally
[12:50] <shadeslayer> hmm
[12:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: not in settings, its in view > adjust view properties :P
[12:54] <JontheEchidna> (I should note that user support is in #kubuntu)
[12:56] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: btw any idea if the search bug in kpk will get a fix?
[12:56] <shadeslayer> currently kpk cant search for stuff.. returns a empty page
[12:57] <JontheEchidna> if we switch to the aptcc backend, yes
[12:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://imagebin.ca/view/caiIIY_O.html
[12:57] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: hmm
[12:57] <JontheEchidna> did you have to ping to say "hmm"?
[12:58]  * Quintasan votes for dropping kpk for Muon
[12:58] <Quintasan> unstable in better that unusable
[12:58] <shadeslayer> muon++
[12:58]  * shadeslayer has nasty tab complete habit
[12:58]  * apachelogger votes for Quintasan writing a flipping usable itnerface
[12:59] <JontheEchidna> Muon is in string freeze and does not have an update UI, so...
[12:59] <JontheEchidna> even if we made kubuntu-notification-helper do update notifications, we'd have no update gui to make it launch
[12:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://imagebin.ca/view/wb3UfDG.html
[12:59] <Quintasan> apachelogger: flipping?
[12:59] <yofel> shadeslayer: want to look at yet another docbook caused ftbs? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdiff3/0.9.95-6
[13:00] <shadeslayer> yofel: i know about that :P
[13:00] <yofel> ah, ok then, just tripped over it ^^
[13:00] <shadeslayer> find me something equivalent to EBN and i can fix it
[13:00] <shadeslayer> there are about 6-7 packages ftbfs due to docbooks
[13:00] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://imagebin.ca/view/Ar75iSe.html
[13:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whuz that?
[13:01] <apachelogger> blogilo
[13:01] <shadeslayer> and.. why am i being showed that? :P
[13:01] <apachelogger> dunno, I though we were sharing config dialogs
[13:02] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:02]  * apachelogger is not even done with the model/view intro and is feeling tired already
[13:02] <JontheEchidna> are you blogging about u-1?
[13:02] <apachelogger> no
[13:02] <apachelogger> I can only produce one post at a time
[13:02] <JontheEchidna> ah, just sharing config dialogs then :P
[13:03] <apachelogger> and I am now working for a month or so on a blog post about how to build a ubuntu derivate from scratch proper
[13:04] <apachelogger> now to move a bit off the topic of config dialog sharing
[13:04] <apachelogger> u1-kde is 4.1k of bloated code
[13:06] <kronos> shadeslayer, any good tutorials for learnin Qt ??
[13:06] <shadeslayer> kronos: loads
[13:06] <shadeslayer> kronos: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.7-snapshot/
[13:07] <JontheEchidna> moo.ogg in muon is 25.4 kb :P
[13:07] <shadeslayer> what does moo.ogg do :)
[13:07] <apachelogger> hm
[13:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: maybe xv it?
[13:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: unittest
[13:10] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: come to think of it, maybe you should make the ascii in a qgraphisscene or something
[13:11] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: also, I highly recommend to base64 encode it and embeed in the binary ;)
[13:11] <apachelogger> the audio that is
[13:12] <JontheEchidna> lol
[13:14] <apachelogger> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc/annotate/head:/src/share/ContactSelector.h it took me 3 approaches to write that as selector yesterday
[13:14] <apachelogger> I always ended up with ContactSceletor
[13:15] <apachelogger> if your coding style enforced at least one k per klass I would have made that ContactSkeletor for sure :D
[13:21] <Quintasan> Anyone knows how can I dump LiveCD's xorg configuration? There is nothing in /etc/X11 and dunno why but I can't get it to work
[13:21] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: because we dont use xorg.conf anymore?
[13:21] <shadeslayer> nouveau doesnt need it
[13:22] <Quintasan> a) I'm using ATI card b)my HDTV supplies incorret EDID information and ubuntu-minimal install fails to even display kdm
[13:22] <Quintasan> while live cd does that without problem
[13:23] <Quintasan> c) I want to use 1920x1080 no some funky 1360x768
[13:23] <apachelogger> sudo Xorg -configure
[13:23] <Quintasan> I hope that gives me a base to work on
[13:23] <Quintasan> brbb
[13:26] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: that moo is supreme alright
[13:26] <JontheEchidna> got it off teh wikipediaz
[13:27] <JontheEchidna> it is GFDL
[13:27] <JontheEchidna> do I need to distribute a copy of the GFDL for it?
[13:28] <apachelogger> yus
[13:30]  * JontheEchidna is now wondering how to denote that moo.ogg is GFDL'd
[13:31] <apachelogger> AUTHORS file
[13:31] <apachelogger> or README
[13:31] <apachelogger> or a file next to the moo.ogg 
[13:32] <apachelogger> named COPYING or something
[13:34] <apachelogger> hm
[13:34] <shadeslayer> any idea what pkg-config does?
[13:34] <shadeslayer> debian introduced it as a dep in rekonq
[13:34] <apachelogger> qlistview cannot have a custom delegate?
[13:35] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1151005 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/ (COPYING.GFDL README) Fulfill licensing obligations
[13:35] <shadeslayer> debfx: poke
[13:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kubuntu_01_do_not_depend_on_gtk.diff
[13:35] <debfx> shadeslayer: re-poke
[13:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: oh it comes from that?
[13:35] <apachelogger> -PKG_CHECK_MODULES(GTK2 REQUIRED gtk+-2.0>=2.8.0)
[13:35] <apachelogger> +#PKG_CHECK_MODULES(GTK2 REQUIRED gtk+-2.0>=2.8.0)
[13:36] <shadeslayer> debfx: debian ships rekonq with gtk :P
[13:36] <apachelogger> pkg-config is a system to make getting lib infos easier
[13:36] <debfx> shadeslayer: so what? everyone has gtk installed
[13:36] <apachelogger> why does it have gtk2 anyway?
[13:36] <JontheEchidna> isn't that the only thing stopping the flash crash? Why are we disabling the gtk?
[13:36] <shadeslayer> then why do we ship a patch to not depend on gtk? because webkit was fixed?
[13:36] <apachelogger> isnt rekonq crashing anyway?
[13:37] <shadeslayer> or make that.. a new version of qt fixed the crash?
[13:37] <apachelogger> looks like apachelogger will subclass qabstractitemview \o/
[13:37] <JontheEchidna> gtk was required to work around the flash crash, which is not yet fixed in qtwebkit
[13:38] <debfx> lex79 said it didn't crash with our qtwebkit
[13:38]  * shadeslayer thought so too
[13:38] <JontheEchidna> still crashes here :/
[13:39] <shadeslayer> was rekonq uploaded before or after the new qtwebkit was uploaded? maybe that makes a difference?
[13:39] <Quintasan> apachelogger: thanks
[13:39] <Quintasan> but that stupid crap just won't show me the kdm or X or anything
[13:39] <Quintasan> grrr
[13:41] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: neon ppa empty 0_o
[13:41] <shadeslayer> https://edge.launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa
[13:41] <Quintasan> yes
[13:41] <Quintasan> because I deleted it
[13:41] <shadeslayer> oh ok.. 
[13:41] <Quintasan> something was bugged with pkgbinarymangler
[13:41] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:42] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717124145-g2gd85rz1mmdj0h2 * src/kcmodule/ (Module.cpp Module.h Module.ui) ugly device list :D
[13:44] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717124359-6scuqw4iv9nc23c7 * src/kcmodule/ (Module.cpp Module.h) make the api a member, we will need it later on when messing with removing devices :S
[13:59] <apachelogger> mhhhh
[13:59]  * apachelogger got a simple model \\o/
[14:00] <apachelogger> http://imagebin.ca/view/oubc1s7n.html
[14:01] <apachelogger> beautiful listivew ;)
[14:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nice
[14:01] <Quintasan> Riddell: Heyho, can you do anything about your machine?
[14:02] <Quintasan> I can't understand it, LiveCD gets output on my TV normally but with some stupid resolution, manually installed ubuntu-minimal fails to do that
[14:02] <Quintasan> grr
[14:08] <shadeslayer> btw any idea if qtcreator can display a small description of classes like kdevelop?
[14:09] <shadeslayer> oh crap..
[14:28] <debfx> apachelogger: could you please sponsor http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/kcm-touchpad_0.3.1-0ubuntu6.debdiff
[14:28] <apachelogger> I uploaded ubuntu6 earlier today
[14:28] <apachelogger> or was it yesterday?
[14:28] <apachelogger> debfx: fixing the install issue
[14:29] <debfx> apachelogger: you uploaded ubuntu5 which ftbfs
[14:29] <apachelogger> oh
[14:29] <apachelogger> how did that ftbfs
[14:30] <apachelogger> ehm
[14:30] <debfx> "*" installs the whole source dir
[14:30] <apachelogger> the flick
[14:30]  * apachelogger did not rebuild the source after testing Oo
[14:31] <apachelogger> well then
[14:31] <apachelogger> kubotu: order lart for apachelogger
[14:31]  * kubotu slides lart down the bar to apachelogger
[14:32] <apachelogger> debfx: 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file kcm-touchpad-0.3.1/debian/control.rej
[14:33] <apachelogger> there goes my mood
[14:34] <debfx> that's odd, do you have the actual ubuntu5?
[14:35] <apachelogger> yes
[14:35] <apachelogger> well
[14:35] <apachelogger> I applied that manually
[14:37]  * apachelogger is again wondering how amarok manages to eat a good third of his memory and yet never play apporpiate music for apachelogger's current mood
[14:37] <debfx> http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/kcm-touchpad_0.3.1-0ubuntu6.dsc
[14:41] <Quintasan> apachelogger: that's why I stopped using it at all
[14:41] <Quintasan> this is a curse or something
[14:41] <apachelogger> everything else is crap too
[14:41] <Quintasan> it eats a fuckton of memory just being there
[14:42]  * apachelogger ponders switching to bingOS
[15:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can you sponsor a rekonq upload :)
[15:02] <apachelogger> suppose so
[15:02] <shadeslayer> one sec
[15:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: uh.. i cant seem to merge the changelog properly : http://pastebin.com/8gNdVKYF
[15:04] <shadeslayer> debuild -S -sa complains
[15:10] <shadeslayer> ohh
[15:10] <shadeslayer> nvm
[15:18] <jussi> is someone packaging this yet? http://flavio.castelli.name/fast-user-switch-plasmoid
[15:23] <shadeslayer> jussi: tried packages.debian.org ?
[15:23] <jussi> hrm, does the sun-java6-plugin not exist in maverick?
[15:23] <shadeslayer> jussi: not yet
[15:23] <shadeslayer> canonical partner repos are yet to get that
[15:24] <jussi> ahh
[15:24] <jussi> but it is coming?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> yes
[15:24] <shadeslayer> after partner upload deadline i would guess
[15:24] <jussi> excellent. My bank doesnt work with out it
[15:24]  * shadeslayer now hates people.ubuntu
[15:26] <shadeslayer> jussi: can you connect to people.ubuntu through dolphin?
[15:27] <shadeslayer> also,do i have to just copy my ssh keys to .ssh folder or am i required to go through a import process?
[15:27] <jussi> shadeslayer: no idea, never used it before
[15:27] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:29] <debfx> shadeslayer: you need to upload your ssh key to launchpad
[15:30] <shadeslayer> debfx: i have my keys on lp
[15:30] <shadeslayer> but.. this is a new system,i copied my keys over from my old system onto .ssh
[15:30] <shadeslayer> + folder
[15:30] <shadeslayer> i can do sftp rohangarg@people.ubuntu.com fine
[15:31] <shadeslayer> but cant add a network folder through dolphin
[15:31] <debfx> does it display an error message?
[15:31] <shadeslayer> yes
[15:32] <shadeslayer> one sec.. i closed it 2 mins before
[15:33] <shadeslayer> debfx: unable to connect to server,please check your settings
[15:33] <debfx> ha, that's a very specific error message ^^
[15:34] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:36] <shadeslayer> debfx: im using http://imagebin.ca/view/sabkgPxo.html
[15:38] <debfx> does it work if you directly use sftp://rohangarg@people.ubuntu.com/public_html ?
[15:38] <shadeslayer> debfx: in the server part?
[15:38] <shadeslayer> it still expects a folder
[15:39] <debfx> in the location bar of dolphin
[15:39] <shadeslayer> lets see
[15:39] <shadeslayer> it opened but is currently empy 
[15:40] <shadeslayer> maybe its trying to get the stuff from the server
[15:42] <shadeslayer> still nothing
[15:47] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ping
[15:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/7rqgnCBM
[15:48] <shadeslayer> rekonq debdiff
[16:07] <shadeslayer> debfx: it connects now
[16:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: direct wget link : http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Patches/rekonq.debdiff
[16:11] <shadeslayer> does anyone know a desktop couch dev?
[16:21] <Quintasan> GOD DAMN IT
[16:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: there are only 3 of them anyway :P
[16:21] <Quintasan> even fucking windows could find the right resolution and show up the screen
[16:22] <Quintasan> There goes my XMBC box connected to HD plasma screen
[16:22] <Quintasan> damn
[16:23]  * Quintasan raged so hard
[16:23] <Quintasan> This is just ridiculous, hardware manufacturers can't implement EDID on TV screens and X developers can't make it working automagically
[16:24] <Quintasan> I never fails to autodiscover my 23" LCD monitor
[16:24] <Quintasan> It*
[16:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i need their consent to add gnome-keyring to depends of desktop couch
[16:26] <apachelogger> Quintasan: dont do evil talk about X developers
[16:26] <apachelogger> I imagine them to be superior to them python hackers even
[16:26] <apachelogger> one must be quite the badass to willingly accept so much pain
[16:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you need the consent of a core developer
[16:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok... can i add that build dep? :D
[16:27] <apachelogger> me being core developer -> I thereby shall consent that you add gnome-keyring as dependency because desktopcouch is essentially broken without it
[16:28] <shadeslayer> whee
[16:29] <apachelogger> also your rekonq merge seems of supreme quality
[16:30] <shadeslayer> :D
[16:30] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: this dude, simer, that gave me the debdiff
[16:30] <shadeslayer> uh huh
[16:30] <Quintasan> he changed the source manually
[16:30] <Quintasan> i.e. without a patch :S
[16:30] <shadeslayer> :o
[16:31] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: hes new
[16:31] <apachelogger> mhhhh
[16:31] <Quintasan> well, shadeslayer if you catch him somewhere, tell him that
[16:31] <shadeslayer> sure
[16:31] <Quintasan> I can't somehow find him now
[16:31] <apachelogger> doctor who season 4 OST
[16:31] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: he will be in mtu
[16:31] <shadeslayer> *motu
[16:33] <Quintasan> aaand, anyone knows if Riddell went somewhere?
[16:33] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: prague
[16:33] <Quintasan> oh my
[16:33] <shadeslayer> desktop sprint
[16:33] <Quintasan> so, Qt stalled for now
[16:34] <shadeslayer> you could/might poke lex
[16:34] <Quintasan> unless someone provides me with fast upload connection
[16:34] <nixternal> I didn't catch updates the past day or so, but one thing I have noticed is that my machine is logging in much faster all of a sudden...any ideas?
[16:34] <Quintasan> nixternal: some RAM was plugged in incorretly and it just jumped on it's place :P
[16:34] <nixternal> usually the system tray would lag starting up and get corrupt icons...now all of a sudden it is so damn fast I don't even realize it
[16:35] <nixternal> hehe
[16:35] <shadeslayer> lulz
[16:35] <shadeslayer> nixternal: any updates?
[16:35] <Quintasan> It's KDE's magic
[16:36] <nixternal> hardware wise no, but software wise I am still on lucid with proposed, backports, updates, and the ppa-beta stuff...only major updates I saw were kdepim, openjdk, and apt
[16:36] <shadeslayer> nixternal: kdepim.. kdepim beta 1?
[16:36] <nixternal> s/saw/remembered/
[16:36] <apachelogger> \o/
[16:36] <nixternal> shadeslayer: I believe so
[16:36] <apachelogger> http://imagebin.ca/view/Z-h6xc2.html
[16:36] <apachelogger> now if only I knew why that column sez two
[16:36] <nixternal> yes, beta 1
[16:36] <Quintasan> apawut
[16:36] <shadeslayer> nixternal: was the upgrade smooth?
[16:37] <nixternal> haha, Lord Unicorn
[16:37] <shadeslayer> lol..
[16:37] <nixternal> shadeslayer: I don't use kdepim
[16:37] <nixternal> i use mutt
[16:37] <Quintasan> mutt++
[16:37] <shadeslayer> nixternal: no no.. did the upgrades install fine?
[16:37] <Quintasan> though I'm too lazy to configure it
[16:37] <shadeslayer> no broken updates
[16:37] <nixternal> oh yeah, they installed without a hitch
[16:37] <shadeslayer> good :D
[16:38] <shadeslayer> i tested the maverick ones,couldnt test the lucid packages
[16:38] <nixternal> good job on that, and let me know when they are good to start using...i have been wanting to use it again
[16:38] <shadeslayer> nixternal: you can use them,but dont really leave important stuff on kdepim
[16:38] <nixternal> I used it back in my POP3 days and loved it, but it suck(ed?)(s?) with IMAP
[16:38] <nixternal> I will wait it out then
[16:38] <shadeslayer> it has full akonadi support now
[16:39] <nixternal> that's what I was waiting for to be honest, but your email said it eats children
[16:39] <shadeslayer> nixternal: it might eat your kittens :P
[16:39] <shadeslayer> *might*
[16:39] <nixternal> though my daughter is almost 14 and a pita sometimes, I don't want her getting eaten by my mail client :)
[16:40] <shadeslayer> nixternal: theres a mem issue .. but thats been fixed in trunk
[16:42] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717154149-ul1wapfypnkf53p9 * src/share/ContactSelector.cpp Make the contacts Skeletor searchable \o/
[16:45] <shadeslayer> apart from that.. i didnt really find anything that causes harm
[16:45] <shadeslayer> but i dont really use kdepim fully :P
[17:01] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717160035-f7vm63c9kn4hpqog * src/share/ (4 files) fix getaddress and make contact skeletor only progressable if a valid mail addy can be obtained
[17:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Patches/desktopcouch.debdiff
[17:02] <shadeslayer> desktop couch debdiff
[17:04] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717160425-51v0xm0wziyp0l16 * src/share/ContactSelector.cpp allow ctrl for multiple selections ... fortunately enugh I already wrote getaddresses in a way that supports multiple selections :P
[17:07] <apachelogger> lp bug #565376
[17:08] <shadeslayer> yes
[17:08] <apachelogger> lp bug 561541
[17:08] <shadeslayer> oh..
[17:08] <shadeslayer> didnt see that
[17:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can we close 2 bugs with that?
[17:09] <apachelogger> seems so
[17:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: this fix is inferior!
[17:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whut?
[17:12] <apachelogger> ./desktopcouch/replication_services/ubuntuone.py:import gnomekeyring
[17:12] <apachelogger> ./desktopcouch/local_files.py:import gnomekeyring
[17:13] <apachelogger> python-desktopcouch-records: /usr/share/pyshared/desktopcouch/replication_services/ubuntuone.py
[17:13] <apachelogger> python-desktopcouch: /usr/share/pyshared/desktopcouch/local_files.py
[17:13] <shadeslayer> whuz all that ^^
[17:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^
[17:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: first two lines are the files that use gnomekeyring
[17:16]  * shadeslayer doesnt understand
[17:17] <apachelogger> last two lines are the packages containing the files
[17:17] <apachelogger> you only added the dep to one of those packages
[17:17] <shadeslayer> ohhh
[17:17] <apachelogger> meaning that one will still fail
[17:17]  * shadeslayer goes back to fixing
[17:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can i do : text ( lp: #bug) some more text (lp: #bug) in changelog?
[17:19] <apachelogger> aye
[17:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you can also do Depends foo, <newline> bar
[17:20] <shadeslayer> oh ..
[17:20] <apachelogger> usually wors better than Depends foo <newline> bar :P
[17:20] <apachelogger> s/wors/works
[17:21] <shadeslayer> btw how did you find which files needed gnome-keyring?
[17:23] <apachelogger> grep -r "import gnomekeyring" .
[17:24] <shadeslayer> ah.. i used gnome-keyring :P
[17:25] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: same link
[17:25] <shadeslayer> http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Patches/desktopcouch.debdiff
[17:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you do not say why in your changelog
[17:27] <shadeslayer> doesnt the bug number say it?
[17:28] <shadeslayer> like.. someone looks at changelog,he can follow up on the bug
[17:28] <apachelogger> like someone who looks at the changelog will want to grep and get an answer :P
[17:28] <apachelogger> besides, the bug reports are utter crap and do not really say why, they just say what happens if not :P
[17:29] <shadeslayer> hahah ... ok ill be more explicit 
[17:30] <shadeslayer> Add gnome-keyring to depends of python-desktopcouch (LP: #565376) and desktop couch (LP: #561541) for proper authentication 
[17:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^
[17:30] <apachelogger> no
[17:30] <apachelogger> that just states the obvoius :P
[17:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: + in KDE ? :D
[17:32] <shadeslayer> brr.. my phone is dead
[17:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: more like it
[17:36]  * shadeslayer thinks apachelogger likes the changelog because now it has KDE in it
[17:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: same link again
[17:52] <shadeslayer> thanks for rekonq upload...
[18:15] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: pong
[18:16] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: nvm, already worked around it ^^
[18:16] <JontheEchidna> kk
[18:16] <shadeslayer> hehe
[18:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: uploaded desktopcouch ?
[18:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: qa takes its time
[18:20] <shadeslayer> just asking :D
[18:20] <shadeslayer> i can go back to qt till then :P
[18:24] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1151075 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/PackageModel/PackageDelegate.cpp Improve text drawing code for the 2nd and 3rd columns. Now it should be centered for all font sizes, not just mine. ;)
[18:28] <shadeslayer> kubotu: np
[18:28] <kubotu> shadeslayer_ is listening to "Dynamite" by Taio Cruz [Rokstarr, 2010] [http://open.spotify.com/track/0bg6otrW5gxNnlCqrCrXyd] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more
[18:31] <shadeslayer> thanks
[18:38] <DarkwingDuck> What's up guys?
[18:42] <shadeslayer> fixing stuff in kdegames :P
[18:46] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[18:46] <DarkwingDuck> I have to get ready to move yet again.
[18:46] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: quick question,suppose i modify bzr branch,do i need a changelog right now? or when we release a new version 
[18:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: right now with UNRELEASED as series
[18:48] <apachelogger> see digikam branch
[18:48] <shadeslayer> ok.. thanks :D
[18:48] <shadeslayer> ohk
[18:49] <shadeslayer> whoa.. huge diff :P
[18:53] <DarkwingDuck> Hey apachelogger... How does Python mesh with QT? 
[18:54]  * shadeslayer can already envision the answer
[18:54] <shadeslayer> 20 pages of explanation with 1K LOC
[18:54] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[18:55]  * shadeslayer is wondering what he did to his partition table
[18:55] <shadeslayer> everything is fsckd up :\
[19:04] <DarkwingDuck> What *did* you do?
[19:05] <shadeslayer> even i dont know -.-
[19:05] <apachelogger> brrr
[19:05] <apachelogger> python
[19:05] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: just fine
[19:05] <DarkwingDuck> lol
[19:05] <apachelogger> well, as fine as it gets with python
[19:06] <yofel> apachelogger: on war with python? :D
[19:06] <DarkwingDuck> My reason for asking is the job I'm getting does web dev with python.
[19:06] <DarkwingDuck> So, I have to learn it
[19:06] <DarkwingDuck> Didn't know how well I could apply it with QT
[19:06] <yofel> python isn't that bad, haven't used much PyQT4 though
[19:07] <apachelogger> python has flipping broken unicode
[19:07] <apachelogger> that makes it ultimate fail to begin with
[19:08] <DarkwingDuck> ahhh
[19:08] <DarkwingDuck> Got ya
[19:15] <shadeslayer> does anyone else get long periods of gray in apps ?
[19:15] <shadeslayer> like all i can see is a huge blob of gray
[19:44] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: what do you make of bug 488251
[19:45] <JontheEchidna> dunno
[19:45] <JontheEchidna> weird
[19:46]  * apachelogger thinks it is an opinion :P
[19:46] <apachelogger> maybe hardware related
[19:46] <apachelogger> pc clock jumping around wildly or something
[19:46]  * apachelogger cant really imagine anything else
[19:48] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717184840-rm681ygb1vozxopb * src/share/ShareDialog.cpp cleanup
[19:50] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717184948-9qcyff9iuxjin8eg * debian/ubuntuone-kde.install update install file for u1-share
[19:50] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer, Quintasan: if one of your is up for fun -> bug 481831
[20:03] <evilshadeslayer> ill poke
[20:04] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: what to do with bug 588003?
[20:05] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: uh.. thats karmic..
[20:06] <evilshadeslayer> doesnt even have dependencies.txt :S
[20:06] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: up the stream, no need for tracking IMHO
[20:06] <apachelogger> although
[20:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: we could work around by adding TryExec
[20:07] <apachelogger> of course that does only help with default default, if a user adds something there and uninstalls it will still be listed unless it got a TryExec line
[20:08] <apachelogger> oh
[20:08] <apachelogger> OTOH
[20:08] <apachelogger> that is foobar
[20:08] <apachelogger> once installed there is no desktop file hence the broken entry
[20:08] <apachelogger> *headdesk*
[20:08] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: yeah, upstream and forget about it
[20:08] <evilshadeslayer> hehe
[20:08] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: how the hell am i supposed to work on a karmic bug :S
[20:12] <evilshadeslayer> ill ask to test on lucid/maverick
[20:14] <apachelogger> chroot -> install kmail -> see what is missing
[20:14] <apachelogger> or
[20:14] <apachelogger> vm with you bun too -> install kmail -> see what is missing
[20:14] <evilshadeslayer> :(
[20:14] <evilshadeslayer> ok...
[20:14] <evilshadeslayer> ill have to download the karmic cd... offf
[20:15] <evilshadeslayer> Quintasan: do you have bandwidth?
[20:15]  * evilshadeslayer has no bandwidth at all to do this
[20:17] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer: on maverick!
[20:17] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: eh?
[20:17] <apachelogger> I do not care about karmic :P
[20:17] <evilshadeslayer> ohhhh
[20:17] <apachelogger> I want to be sure that maverick comes with all deps sets properly
[20:17] <evilshadeslayer> i do have maverick
[20:18] <evilshadeslayer> and everything works fine 
[20:18] <evilshadeslayer> but... i have pim beta 1
[20:19] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer: in ubuntu
[20:19] <evilshadeslayer> ohhhh
[20:19] <evilshadeslayer> you bun too
[20:20] <evilshadeslayer> i can zsync that
[20:20] <apachelogger> that I said, didnt I :P
[20:20] <apachelogger> kubotu: order a bottle murauer maerzen
[20:20]  * kubotu slides a bottle murauer maerzen down the bar to apachelogger
[20:20] <apachelogger> yay
[20:20]  * apachelogger hugs Nightrose and goes to watch heman
[20:21] <apachelogger> by the power of grayskull!
[20:22] <evilshadeslayer> oohh
[20:24]  * evilshadeslayer goes to ubuntu+1 to find more testers
[20:25] <maxwellian> What's you bun too?
[20:25] <evilshadeslayer> maxwellian: :S
[20:25]  * maxwellian blushes, hoping he's not appearing too foolish
[20:25] <evilshadeslayer> its ubuntu pronounced ... well.. differently :P
[20:26] <maxwellian> I see that, but I thought it was a special vm technology or something... 0_o
[20:26] <evilshadeslayer> hahaha :P
[20:26]  * maxwellian shuffles away, dragging his feet in shame
[20:30] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: btw when i start kmail from krunner it says KDEinit could not start /usr/bin/kmail :S
[20:30] <evilshadeslayer> on maverick
[20:30] <evilshadeslayer> and then it starts kmail \o/
[20:35]  * evilshadeslayer fails to see what is eating his bandwidth again
[20:57] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: if theres no ubuntu package and for source but debian has a package,can it be syncd? or do i need to test in pbuilder?
[20:57] <evilshadeslayer> http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/qoauth <<
[21:21] <evilshadeslayer> we can haz qoauth in you bun too : bug 606751
[21:22] <evilshadeslayer> make that : can we haz :P
[21:22] <apachelogger> as long as it patches the bugs away :P
[21:27] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100717202706-sx4dihyltwh9do5s * debian/control builddep on kdepimlibs5-dev \o/
[21:46] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: we need it for choqok ;)
[21:46] <evilshadeslayer> its a build dep
[21:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: re bug 481831
[21:53] <shadeslayer> last comment
[21:54] <shadeslayer> oohh kdevelop was released :D
[21:56] <shadeslayer> brr.. not in ktown..
[22:38] <Quintasan> grr
[22:38]  * Quintasan drank too much
[22:54] <shadeslayer> waht am i missing here : http://pastebin.ca/1902630
[22:54] <shadeslayer> *what
[22:54]  * shadeslayer hands Quintasan some coffee
[22:55] <JontheEchidna> got libqt4-dev installed?
[22:56] <shadeslayer> yeah
[22:56] <JontheEchidna> :s
[22:56] <shadeslayer> hehe
[22:56] <JontheEchidna> something is broken in that applet then
[22:56] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: i know.. it looks like QWidget but.. it isnt :/
[22:57] <shadeslayer> cant be
[22:57] <shadeslayer> its being built for suse
[22:57] <shadeslayer> which means im missing a dep
[22:57] <shadeslayer> omg.. no kde-devel :S
[23:00] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: your on bug closing spree :P
[23:01] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=127462
[23:01] <shadeslayer> have looksie
[23:01] <JontheEchidna> saw that on planet kde
[23:02] <JontheEchidna> supper time now
[23:05] <shadeslayer> cya
[23:08]  * shadeslayer fires up qtcreator to investigate
[23:09] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: thanks
[23:09] <shadeslayer> coffee? :D
[23:09]  * shadeslayer needs some himself ... 
[23:18] <Quintasan> hmm
[23:19]  * Quintasan is engaged in a pretty nice conversation
[23:22] <shadeslayer> hehe :D
[23:23] <shadeslayer> plasmoids are platform indep right?
[23:24] <JontheEchidna> as long as they are written in a scripting language
[23:26] <shadeslayer> idk :P
[23:29] <shadeslayer> ok http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=plasmoid-fastuserswitch&baseproject=ALL&lang=en&exclude_debug=true built it for both
[23:29] <shadeslayer> so im going to follow that