[00:35] <jschall> why isn't there a kubuntu-10.04-netbook for amd64? atom n450 is an 64-bit cpu
[00:36] <jschall> a lot of netbooks are still 32bit but a lot of them are 64 now too
[00:55] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[01:48] <c3l> whats up with ktorrent, it eats cpu and memory? is this a known issue?
[01:48] <c3l> it seems to calm down when the download is stopped
[02:07] <judgen> I love kgeographu more than any kde4 app, if you know why is because it works in all enviroments *exccccept kde4* i find that strange
[02:09] <judgen> the kde3-remix is the best i could ever hope for, missing the blocklists ofcourse
[02:14] <TanEk> hi, does someone knows how to open automatically ktorrent with a magnet link in chromium
[02:14] <TanEk> ?
[02:31] <ubuntu> ubuntues!
[02:31] <ubuntu> channel in spanish please ?
[02:32] <JontheEchidna> !es
[02:33] <luis_> hello, good afternoon everyone i like to ask for help, i am trying to watch vids on youtube, the problem is that is asking me to installas the newest version of adobe wish i already did, uninstall and did a reinstallation and still keeps asking for adobe how can i fix this, help please!!!!
[02:57] <Pascat> Hello!
[02:57] <Pascat> I have a few problems here!
[02:59] <luis_> yeah me too but none seems to be available :(
[02:59] <Pascat> 1: How do I change my desktop background image? and 2... Why won't x-chat have transparency? It works with Compiz-Fusion and KWin allows transparency o.o
[03:00] <luis_> to change your desktop background just place the cursor anywhere in the screen right click and then choose: configure desktop
[03:01] <luis_> the other question i don't know
[03:03] <Pascat> background problem fixed.
[03:03] <Pascat> that...was more complicated then necessary.
[03:09] <judgen> saying for everyoung!
[03:09] <judgen> oops
[03:40] <Scunizi> Is there a built in vnc or rdp server in 10.04?  If so where do I find it in the menu to configure? Or what should I load up?
[04:04] <jschall> i put kubuntu netbook on my netbook, how can i swap it out for regular kubuntu? it's a bit buggy.
[04:04] <ary> hi
[04:05] <ary> I've a problem.... I'm using kubuntu 10.04. My fonts are very ugly
[04:05] <ary> in chrome and firefox
[04:06] <ary> i found that it changes if I remove the ~.font.conf file
[04:06] <ary> somebody have any idea?
[04:07] <ary> the problem is that this file start again every time that i do a change in my setings
[05:07] <dracula_> jh
[05:15] <TanEk_> does someone knows how to build a package?
[06:00] <enzoplex> How do I remove the join/part from irssi?
[06:51] <alibaba> test
[07:09] <d610> السلام عليكم ورحمه الله بركاته
[07:10] <d610> hi every body
[07:10] <d610> can any one read me
[07:10] <d610> iam new here
[07:10] <James147> !hi | d610
[07:10] <d610> thanks
[07:10] <d610> any one here arabian
[07:58] <eagles0513875|2> hey guys what woudl cause a sudo apt-get upgrade to get an error 404 on the repositories?
[08:10] <gb__> howdy all
[08:10] <gb__> where is xorg.conf in kdm?
[08:10] <gb__> i need to find nvidia settings
[08:13] <gb__> anyone?
[08:15] <eagles0513875|2> gb__: on a clean install of lucid
[08:18] <gb__> eagles0513875|2: i had ubuntu  command line, i apt-got kde sir
[08:18] <eagles0513875|2> gb__: run apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[08:18] <eagles0513875|2> that will install any missing packages that come with a standard kubuntu install
[08:18] <gb__> eagles0513875|2: ok thank you
[08:19] <eagles0513875|2> welcome
[08:19] <gb__> i had install nvidia-current drivers, now everythingis big
[08:19] <gb__> so wanted to go back to default
[08:19] <gb__> will try that ya suggested, thank you
[08:23] <eagles0513875|2> gotcha#
[08:35] <cps1966> anyone here
[08:36] <rork> according tot the nicks list, yes
[08:37] <cps1966> i need help installing sun java
[08:37] <cps1966> the plugin
[08:37] <cps1966> cant remember how i did it before
[08:38] <rork> !java
[08:51] <cps1966> thats so old its usless
[08:59] <gb__> cya folks, thanks again
[09:15] <vot> whats the storm with kubunu and ubuntu and reading disks from other distros
[09:15] <vot> i have a md raid5
[09:16] <vot> within that i have a lvm pyhsical volume then a volume group
[09:17] <vot> then a bunch of logical volumes encrypted with luks
[09:17] <vot> when i install ubuntu/kubuntu it doesnt recognise any of the lvm volume groups or anything properly
[09:18] <vot> shouldn't it read the volumes the same between distro
[09:18] <vot> 's
[10:02] <boby> need help?
[10:03] <boby85> has kubuntu 10.04.1 relesed jet?
[10:04] <Misterio> boby85: It will be released in 3 months, if I remember well, and 10.04.2 3 months later than 10.04.1
[10:04] <Misterio> boby85: First update is released after 6 months
[10:04] <boby85> don't understand?
[10:05] <boby85> isn't in july?
[10:05] <Misterio> boby85: Well, 10.04 is released >> 6 months later 10.04.1 >> 3 months later 10.04.2 >> 3 months later 10.04.3...
[10:06] <boby85> isn't 6 monts later 10.10?
[10:06] <Misterio> yes, too
[10:06] <Misterio> But 10.04.1 is not version update, is just single packages' updates recopilation
[10:06] <boby85> so 10.04 shoud be in 27.07?
[10:06] <boby85> couse 10.04 relesed 27/04
[10:06] <Misterio> I don't know the day
[10:07] <boby85> 3 months after 27.04
[10:07] <boby85> Misterio I know
[10:09] <boby85> ok here is my problem: after clean install or upgrade to 10.04 from 9.10 my system won't boot, some plymouth problem (graphic driver loads to slow) so I instaled 9.10 again. Few days ago I decided to upgrade again but now system wors fine
[10:10] <boby85> so they have fixed bug I have
[10:10] <boby85> if I install 10.04.1 everything will be fine
[10:10] <boby85> but there is no 10.04.1
[10:10] <boby85> only 10.04
[10:11] <boby85> I could upgrade after clean install...
[10:11] <boby85> what to do?
[10:11] <Misterio> wait to 10.04.1
[10:11] <Misterio> Or to 10.10
[10:11] <boby85> I know that
[10:12] <boby85> but what till then
[10:12] <Misterio> boby85: If you prefer stable PC 10.04 LTS, if you want testing 10.10
[10:12] <boby85> but 10.04 doesn't work
[10:12] <boby85> after clean install
[10:12] <Misterio> Then update
[10:12] <boby85> so I don't know will it work after upgrade
[10:12] <boby85> will it work?
[10:12] <Misterio> I don't know
[10:13] <Misterio> It worked fine for me, update and clean install
[10:13] <boby85> upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 works
[10:13] <boby85> 2 mounts ago this above didn't work to
[10:13] <boby85> now it works
[10:14] <boby85> so i don't know will it work after clean install 10.04 and than upgrade
[10:14] <boby85> ?
[11:05] <jillsmitt> i have festival installed, what additional software i need to use festival with knotify?
[12:13] <darthganesh> I have enabled Restore previous sessions. But it doesn't remember all running applications e.g. Stardict.Why?
[12:20] <Weenie_Beenie> ciao a tutti, posso disturbare?
[12:20] <well_laid_lawn> !it
[12:21] <well_laid_lawn> or ask in english :]
[12:59] <slow-motion> hi
[13:07] <Misterio> !hi | slow-motion
[13:36] <nicolas_> hi
[13:55] <kubuntu> apachelogger hi :)
[13:55] <kubuntu> https://code.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntuone-client/gsoc I'm here. What next? :D
[13:57] <Eruaran> Is anyone else encountering serious problems with playing games on a system with ATI graphics cards?
[13:59] <Eruaran> I have a HD 3750 graphics card and attempting to play any 3D game causes a serious crash and you have to reset the computer.
[14:00] <Eruaran> (have tested the hardware, its fine)
[14:00] <matrixx> I've heard from one of my friends that he had similar problems
[14:00] <apachelogger> kubuntu: read the mails :P
[14:00] <matrixx> he changed to nvidia and works well :)
[14:00] <apachelogger> you will not need the code branch at all
[14:02] <Eruaran> I am torn because this card is definately better than the on board Nvidia graphics... its so smooth... I don't want to have to revert back... but I can't play games now
[14:02] <matrixx> :/
[14:03] <matrixx> ATI drivers just suck with some cards
[14:03] <matrixx> seems to be matter of luck
[14:03] <matrixx> though nvidia isn't perfect either
[14:03] <_Techie_> i think its due to the fact that ther wasnt very much ATI support at the time of the HD3k series
[14:04] <matrixx> my screen flickers, and I fixed it on win by changing color model to YCbCr444
[14:05] <matrixx> but nvidia linux drivers doesn't give me that option yet
[14:06] <Eruaran> It's like this: Start game > OoOh its so smoooth its like liquid... woo... ahhh... sweet > black screen... total system hang... > reboot...
[14:06] <matrixx> I know the feeling :/
[14:06] <_Techie_> Eruaran, bad luck... somebody will kick me for this... tried gaming in windows?
[14:07] <Eruaran> I don't consider that an option
[14:07] <_Techie_> Eruaran, i seee
[14:07] <Eruaran> Everything I use is on Linux
[14:08] <Eruaran> If there's a fix I'll be happy
[14:09] <Eruaran> I've checked forums... people don't seem sure yet
[14:09] <Eruaran> whether its x or drivers
[14:09] <_Techie_> Eruaran, which drivers are you using?
[14:10] <_Techie_> are you using the restricted drivers provided by *buntu?
[14:10] <Eruaran> no
[14:10] <Eruaran> I'm using mesa
[14:12] <_Techie_> Eruaran, you may wish to download and install the linux drivers for your card fromt he ATI/AMD website... but wait a bit and see if any of the regulars in here have any idea
[14:12] <Eruaran> If it was nvidia I'd probably do that
[14:12] <Eruaran> But I'm a bit wary of ATI's drivers
[14:12] <Eruaran> :P
[14:13] <_Techie_> Eruaran, they are better than they used to be
[14:13] <Eruaran> yes
[14:14] <dlp> Does anyone know if anybody is implementing system connection configuration in KNetworkManager?
[14:14] <_Techie_> Eruaran, they have proven to me that they can be reliable, but that being said.. i was using a high end 4k card
[14:14] <dlp> I did ask in #kde-devel, but they're all asleep, it would seem.
[14:14] <Eruaran> But if this issue can be sorted I'll be happy to stay with the mesa drivers, the graphics seem pretty awesome... when it works
[14:15] <Eruaran> I've also noticed that 2D graphics are better on the ATI card
[14:15] <_Techie_> Eruaran, id use the restricted driver manager and give FGLRX a shot... if it doesnt work you can always uninstall it
[14:15] <Eruaran> and movies
[14:17] <Mamarok> Eruaran: which driver and which card do you have?
[14:18] <_Techie_> Mamarok,  HD 3750 and mesa
[14:18] <Eruaran> I just ran hardware drivers detection again and Kubuntu is offering me the proprietary driver
[14:18] <Mamarok> mesa? There is the radeon driver, I doubt you use a mesa driver
[14:18] <Eruaran> No proprietary drivers are in use on my system
[14:19] <Mamarok> Eruaran: well, the radeon is a free driver
[14:19] <Mamarok> I have the HD 3650 and the radeon driver is the one that works best
[14:19] <Eruaran> Ok, I'll give it a try
[14:20] <Mamarok> but I don't understand why you say you use the meas driver? there is no such thing for ATI c<ards, only the Radeon or the proprietary fglrx
[14:20] <Mamarok> mesa*
[14:20] <Eruaran> Mesa 7.7.1
[14:21] <Eruaran> (radeon)
[14:21] <Mamarok> Eruaran: as I said, there is no xorg driver called meas
[14:21] <Mamarok> mesa*
[14:22] <Eruaran> kernel module is radeon
[14:22] <Mamarok> Eruaran: with the HD 3750 you should use the Radeon one, that should work out of the box.
[14:22] <Mamarok> Eruaran: well, what doesn't work?
[14:22] <Mamarok> I didn't read the full backlog
[14:22] <Eruaran> games
[14:22] <Eruaran> 3d games
[14:22] <Mamarok> Linux games you mean or in wine?
[14:22] <Eruaran> causes nasty crash
[14:22] <Eruaran> native games
[14:23] <Mamarok> hm, could you give me an example?
[14:23] <Eruaran> ok
[14:23] <Eruaran> start up sauerbraten for example
[14:23] <Eruaran> everything is great
[14:23] <Eruaran> very smooth.. impressive
[14:23] <Mamarok> I meant an example of a Linux game that doesn't work
[14:23] <Eruaran> then after a minute, black screen, sound loops, total crash... can't to anything but hard reset
[14:24] <Mamarok> and you are sure it is the graphic card causing the crash?
[14:24] <Mamarok> or driver
[14:24] <Eruaran> gonna try things with the new driver
[14:24] <Eruaran> brb
[14:25] <Mamarok> Eruaran: what new driver?
[14:25] <Mamarok> oh well, so much for not listenng
[14:25] <Mamarok> listening*
[14:26]  * Mamarok is less than sure the problem is the xorg driver
[14:26] <Mamarok> we need a backtrace
[14:27] <_Techie_> anyway, im gonna head to bed... goodnight #kubuntu
[14:28] <Eruaran> Not a good result so far
[14:28] <Mamarok> Eruaran: how can you know that it is the driver causing the crash?
[14:29] <Eruaran> Plymouth suddenly looks aweful and compositing wont work
[14:29] <Mamarok> Eruaran: which driver did you isntall now?
[14:29] <Eruaran> the one that was offered to me
[14:30] <Eruaran> Not using Mesa any more but using FGLRX or whatever its called
[14:30] <Mamarok> one?
[14:30] <Eruaran> This is the ati driver
[14:30] <Mamarok> Eruaran: Well, I already told you the first time, mesa is not the card driver,
[14:30] <Mamarok> is either the radeon or the fglrx
[14:30] <Mamarok> and how did you switch drivers?
[14:31] <Eruaran> I installed fglrx
[14:31] <Mamarok> that doesn't necessarily switch the driver
[14:31] <Eruaran> It wasn't previously installed
[14:32] <Eruaran> this is horribly glitchy
[14:32] <Mamarok> Eruaran: what are your kwin settings?
[14:33] <Mamarok> again, installing a driver doesn't necessarily activate it
[14:33] <Mamarok> which radeon driver is installed on your system?
[14:35] <Mamarok> Eruaran: still here?
[14:36] <Mamarok> Eruaran: if you want help, could you please answer my questions?
[14:39] <Mamarok> whatever...
[14:39] <Eruaran> sorry was testing a game out
[14:40] <Eruaran> no crashes with fglrx driver
[14:41] <Mamarok> Eruaran: just for your information: before starting sauerbraten, you should change your monitor settings if you have a resolution higher than 1200x800, else it will nto work
[14:41] <Mamarok> then, mesa is a gl engine, not a driver, there are three drivers for ATI cards, Radeon, Radeon HD and fglrx
[14:41] <Eruaran> I had radeon
[14:41] <Mamarok> and you change drivers with jockey-kde, they don't change on their own
[14:42] <Eruaran> I didn't say they changed on their own
[14:43] <Eruaran> I said I installed fglrx when it was offered to me by the "hardware drivers" app
[14:44] <Mamarok> ok, that is jockey-kde then, but you didn't tell me that you were using that tool
[14:44] <Eruaran> I said it was offered to me... what other tool offers you a driver
[14:45] <Mamarok> well, the package installer for example can suggest a driver if you search for
[14:46] <Mamarok> JFYI, you can test the radeonhd driver, normally the HD 3750 should sue the radeonhd, not the radeon one
[14:46] <Mamarok> but you need to install it, the try changing it with the jockey
[14:46] <Mamarok> use*
[14:47] <Eruaran> I can't turn on desktop effects now
[14:47] <Mamarok> OK, so your problems are solved?
[14:48] <Mamarok> sorry, misread that line
[14:48] <Eruaran> At the moment if I use the radeon driver I can have everything but games... fglrx will give me games but everything else looks like crap
[14:49] <Mamarok> hm, did you try the other radeon driver? maybe you just didn't use the right one, there are two different ones
[14:49] <Eruaran> how safe is the radeonhd driver?
[14:49] <Mamarok> what do you mean, how safe it is?
[14:50] <Mamarok> itwill not destroy your card :)
[14:50] <Eruaran> my past experience with ati drivers has not been good
[14:50] <Mamarok> well, it's not better with Nvidia, the problem is the card manufacturers
[14:51] <Mamarok> once they document their cards correctly the drivers will be written correctly
[14:51] <Eruaran> brb
[14:54] <Eruaran> Still can't resume compositing
[14:54] <Mamarok> Eruaran: which driver do you use now?
[14:54] <Eruaran> radeonhd
[14:54] <Mamarok> maybe it's just that using the game and the compisiting at the same time uses too many ressources
[14:54] <Mamarok> compositing*
[14:54] <Eruaran> I just rebooted
[14:55] <Eruaran> there is no game running
[14:55] <Mamarok> how much RAM do you have?
[14:55] <Eruaran> 4GB
[14:55] <Mamarok> that should be enough
[14:55] <Dan_L> for composting?  You should be able to do most of that w/ like 1 gig
[14:55] <Mamarok> Dan_L: it's not about compositing alone, but running 3d games at the same time
[14:56] <Eruaran> Again plymouth splash is now ugly, no compositing in kde... but games work...
[14:56] <Mamarok> but 4 Gb is certainly enough
[14:56] <Eruaran> Its too much stuffing around
[14:56] <RaGNORAK> how do i set up a home network between two systems both running kubuntu 10.04?
[14:56] <Dan_L> Mamarok:   sorry.  But yeah, 4 gigs should still be enough.
[14:57] <Eruaran> If I'm going to have this kind of hassle I'm just going to go back to nvidia
[14:57] <Dan_L> Ragnorak:  first, make sure they're both connected to the same router
[14:57] <Dan_L> ........:)
[14:58] <RaGNORAK> they are
[14:59] <RaGNORAK> they both use the same net
[14:59] <Dan_L> well at this point
[14:59] <Dan_L> you should be able to share files
[14:59] <Dan_L> amirite?
[14:59] <RaGNORAK> and i did use a network between them when one of them had windows using samba
[15:00] <RaGNORAK> is that a trick question?
[15:01] <RaGNORAK> do i need to setup NFS?
[15:03] <Dan_L> Ragnorak:  what is your practical goal here?
[15:03] <Dan_L> Are we just sharing files?  Are we flipping a printer?  Tell the dan_l and the dan_l will try to help.
[15:03] <RaGNORAK> transfer files
[15:04] <RaGNORAK> so zeroconf?
[15:04] <Dan_L> more or less
[15:04] <Pascat> hello!
[15:05] <Dan_L> if I were you
[15:05] <Dan_L> and I'm not
[15:05] <Dan_L> but i"m way better looking
[15:05] <Dan_L> I'd set it up for VNC hotness too
[15:06] <Pascat> I want to give a try to Kubuntu! But the thing seems to have a few issues that are making me stay on Gnome... the biggest: X-chat doesn't seem to have Alpha Blending in KWin.
[15:06] <RaGNORAK> i will try and set it up myself i shall comeback if i fail (which i am almost certain i will)
[15:07] <RaGNORAK> ummm i use konversation so....
[15:08] <Dan_L> Ragnorak:  it's easy dude.  Trust me.  Even I can do it.
[15:08] <Dan_L> Pascat:  seriously.  X-Chat is what's keeping you on gnome?
[15:08] <Dan_L> Lemme tell you a secret
[15:09] <Dan_L> Kubuntu kicks everything elses ass.
[15:09] <Dan_L> I'm a total ktard in 2 years or less
[15:12] <Pascat> lol
[15:12] <Pascat> Dan_L: Yes, x-chat is what is keeping me on gnome.
[15:12] <Pascat> I don't like that native KDE one...
[15:15] <Pascat> Plasma is awesome >.> Its like Win7/MacOSX on Steroids. So much better.
[15:15] <Pascat> because it does so much more heh.
[15:16] <Pascat> and I'd like some help to configure it, My eyes are sensitive and I really don't like the default white/blue colors. They hurt.
[15:17] <James147> Pascat: its easy to change the default colour scheme (system settings > apearance...)
[15:18] <Pascat> cool... now to find a way to get alpha blending to work in KWin or to find another client with alpha blending...I got really used to seeing my background with my text >.> going back to blank background is kinda *shrug*
[15:19] <James147> Pascat: window transpancy?
[15:19] <Pascat> yea
[15:19] <James147> Pascat: for a temp fix right click the title bar > opacity
[15:19] <Pascat> I want window transparency in xchat...doesn't seem to work with KWin. Only Compiz-Fusion
[15:19] <Mamarok> Pascat: why don you use a proper IRC cleint like Konversation or Quassel?
[15:20] <Pascat> I tried Quassel...didn't like it.
[15:20] <Mamarok> well, try Konversation then
[15:20] <Pascat> Konversation?
[15:20] <Mamarok> yep
[15:20] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get install konversation if it is not installed already
[15:20] <Pascat> Okies, I'll look into it...and i'll have to reinstall the whole of Kubuntu >.>
[15:21] <Mamarok> why?
[15:21] <Dan_L> I'm still on the fence about Konversation v. quassel.
[15:21] <Mamarok> oh, you mean to have everything isntalled? sudo apt-get install kde-full
[15:21] <James147> Pascat: you can also set th transparency of windows when they are opened by right clicking on the title bar of the window > advanced > spical application settings > prefences > [active | inactive ] opacity
[15:21] <Mamarok> Dan_L: that is a personal preference, not a discussion for this channel
[15:22] <Dan_L> Mamarok:  it was an observation and a benign one at that.
[15:23] <vot> i i have to laught when Mamarok's the one saying use a proper client
[15:23] <vot> if that isnt a personal preference i dont know what is
[15:23] <Pascat> I'll try out both...and what I like is ... I'll send you guys a link to a screenshot.
[15:24] <Dan_L> I don't want to express a personal preference here, but lemme tell you:  the Cubs suck.
[15:24] <Dan_L> :)
[15:25] <vot> Mamarok, why dont you lighten up since you seem to be dishing out your own brand of personal preference0
[15:25] <vot> Dan_L, now thats just stirring
[15:25] <Mamarok> vot: I gave the two clients that are for Kubuntu
[15:25] <Mamarok> this is about Kubuntu, remember?
[15:26] <Pascat> http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/3431000/1/screenies?h=84d69a
[15:26] <Dan_L> Vot:  yes.  yes it is.  :)
[15:26]  * Mamarok doesn't like Quassel at all
[15:26] <vot> so what.. a gnome one, isnt "not proper"
[15:26] <Pascat> I want to have a similar transparency effect then I have with xchat
[15:26] <Mamarok> vot: whatever...
[15:26] <vot> Pascat, try them all out
[15:26] <vot> hey go wild and install wine and try mirc
[15:27] <Pascat> ...NO
[15:27] <vot> or be crazy and launch an console and try bitchx :)
[15:27] <Mamarok> could we get back on topic, please? discussion sin elsewhere
[15:27] <Dan_L> Pascat:  so you want it transparent over your desktop?
[15:27] <Mamarok> is*
[15:28] <vot> isnt the transparent over background not alpaha anyway
[15:28] <vot> doesnt it just show the desktop behind the text
[15:29] <vot> desktop wallpaper that is
[15:32] <khalsa_> hello
[15:32] <khalsa_> -i
[15:32] <khalsa_> -o
[15:32] <khalsa_> o
[15:32] <khalsa_> s
[15:32] <FloodBotK2> khalsa_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:32] <khalsa_> i
[15:32] <ikonia> khalsa_: stop
[15:33] <Dan_L> There has to be away to get that transparent effect.  I'm snooping around now.
[15:33] <James147> I think you might need to change the window theme... there are some transparent ones on kde-look.org
[15:34] <Pascat> I think I'm trying to mimick a GTK effect on a non-GTK environment, *shrug* I'll just have to get used to it heh.
[15:34] <ikonia> kde does have transparancy
[15:34] <Pascat> I'll play with Kommunicate and see if it does what I want ^_^
[15:35] <vot> Pascat, but lemme check
[15:35] <Dan_L> Nooo.  Look under desktop effects. There's gotta be a transparency effect and you could probably tell it to just do that to your IRC client
[15:35] <Dan_L> or something
[15:35] <vot> i thought xchat didnt do full alpha with the transparent backtound
[15:35] <James147> Pascat: something like this: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smoked+Glass+Bespin+config?content=127507?
[15:35] <James147> Pascat: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smoked+Glass+Bespin+config?content=127507  sorry :)
[15:36] <andi> hello
[15:36] <Pascat> Niiiiiiiice
[15:36] <Guest80987> does anyone know where streaming files are saved
[15:37] <vot> thats a theme that seems to be by someone missing vista or win7 and mac os 9
[15:37] <vot> by the icon :)
[15:37] <James147> vot: was the first one I found with transpancy... there are many others
[15:37] <Dan_L> ewwwwwww vista.  ewwwww 7.
[15:37] <Dan_L> Just saying.
[15:38] <vot> vistas aero looks fine
[15:38] <vot> with the exception of the stupid flip3d
[15:39] <Dan_L> ehhhhh.  I guess it 'looks' as good as windows can.  But really----it's not on the same planet in terms of kde or osx
[15:39] <vot> i dont think it was meant to
[15:40] <vot> it had to cover a wide range of disparaging hardware
[15:40] <Dan_L> Probably not.  I think they focused solely on a good UI.
[15:40] <Dan_L> ..
[15:40] <Dan_L> ....
[15:40] <Dan_L> yeah.  It's like that:)
[15:40] <vot> i think clean and simple and quick was all that they were after
[15:41] <Dan_L> Have you used 7 yet?
[15:41] <vot> and im glad they didnt try more.. because when m$ tries to be creative its usually ugly and horrible
[15:41] <vot> yea a lot
[15:41] <vot> i hate the aero peek thing too
[15:41] <vot> with the window borders
[15:41] <jussi> !ot
[15:42] <Dan_L> I just started messing with 7 at work.  still pretty far behind the curve.
[15:42] <Dan_L> Does anyone know of a text editor that will syntax highlight sql?
[15:43] <jussi> lads, if you can take the windows chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic that would be great
[15:43] <Dan_L> what did you just call me?
[15:43] <Pascat> Should I stick to Firefox or Konqueror is good?
[15:44] <Dan_L> Is that supposed to be some sort of homophobic slur?
[15:44] <pucko-> firefox is pretty good in lucid
[15:44] <Dan_L> Pascat:  The answer is yes.
[15:44] <James147> Pascat: or try chromium :)
[15:45] <jussi> Dan_L: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Syntax-Highlight-Engine-Kate/ - kate does
[15:45] <Pascat> I used Chromium. Problem I had with it: Java Support sucked on Windows. (couldn't get Focus) ...maybe Ubuntu doesn't have that problem though...
[15:45] <Dan_L> Pascat:  It works well.
[15:46] <Dan_L> Jussi:  will kate lemme shoot a query straight at a db too?
[15:46] <Dan_L> Like is there a script thingymabob?
[15:46] <Dan_L> I'm trying to dump my windows vbox and be a total free tard.  so replacing notepad++ and excel are very high on my list of things to do.
[15:47] <pucko-> there are a few issues with chrome/chromium in general (plugins especially). firefox, usually just works. but I use chrome anyway
[15:47] <vot> notepad++ is free
[15:47] <vot> and i think it works under wine
[15:47] <vot> and oo has a excel equivalent
[15:47] <jussi> Dan_L: likely, but Ive no experience with it
[15:48] <vot> and i belive kate can run scripts
[15:48] <jussi> Dan_L: kate is a very powerful text editor
[15:48] <Eruaran> can somebody help... I change my graphics driver to radeonhd so I can play games now but desktop compositing no longer works and every time I reboot my resolution goes back to 640x480
[15:49] <Pascat> I saw Kate...it seemed weird...
[15:50] <vot> kates the closest ive seen to ultraedit/notepad++ *nix side
[15:50] <Eruaran> I love Kate
[15:50] <vot> really doe she root hard ?
[15:50] <Eruaran> And prefer it
[15:50] <Pascat> can it 'color' program codes?
[15:50] <jussi> vot: dont.
[15:50]  * Pascat does some Ruby once in a while..
[15:50] <jussi> Pascat: yes
[15:50] <vot> oh come on someone had to go there
[15:51] <Dan_L> Pascat:  we were just talking about that.  apparently it does support syntax highlighting.
[15:51] <Pascat> Cool ^_^
[15:51] <vot> kate is very good
[15:51] <Pascat> gedit does it by default...so you have to enable it in Kate?
[15:51] <jussi> no
[15:51] <James147> Pascat: it just works, although is normally activated when you save a newly created document
[15:52] <Dan_L> Now if I could just replace excel I'd be in good shape:)
[15:52] <Eruaran> Kate has VI input mode
[15:52] <James147> Eruaran:  :D
[15:52] <pucko-> kate supports sql highlighting even
[15:52] <Pascat> switching to KDE >.>
[15:52] <Eruaran> :P
[15:52] <vot> Dan_L, Open Office spreashseet
[15:52] <vot> however its not as good as excel
[15:52] <Eruaran> I prefer Calc to Excel
[15:52] <Dan_L> Vot:  yeah it's getting there.  I can do most of my manipulation in OO.  I can't really make my deliverables good there though.
[15:53] <Eruaran> So, does anyone know what I need to do
[15:53] <Eruaran> Do I need to edit a config file or something?
[15:53] <Dan_L> Actually, all of my manipulation can be done in OO.  It's total replacement.  But my ability to present things effectively is gimped up pretty bad.
[15:53] <Eruaran> To get my desktop compositing back and sort out my screen res
[15:54] <Dan_L> Eruran:  have you tried going through desktop effects?
[15:54] <Eruaran> Dan_L: yes
[15:54] <pucko-> Eruaran, I have never used a radeon card, but I would start by looking into the Xorg.0.log file and see what's going on.
[15:54] <Dan_L> It's a non option or the option doesn't work?
[15:55] <Eruaran> Dan_L: it says its temporarily disabled
[15:55] <Eruaran> oh... its saying compositing is active now
[15:55] <Eruaran> first time...
[15:55] <Eruaran> its not working though
[15:55] <Eruaran> nope not working
[15:56] <Eruaran> "Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options...
[15:56] <Dan_L> hmmmm.  are you using a proprietary driver?
[15:56] <Eruaran> I'm using radeonhd
[15:56] <Pascat> Ok...ok KDE
[15:56] <Eruaran> I thought we didn't edit x anymore?
[15:57] <Eruaran> I have forgotten where it is X11
[15:57] <Dan_L> Eruaran:  sorry.  this one is beyond me.  I'm a veteran of the broadcom wifi driver problems and the nvidia driver problems, but no idea how to make this one work.
[15:57] <Dan_L> Pascat:  it's zen in computing isn't it?
[15:57] <James147> Eruaran: you do if you want to specify something... its just that now x can auto detect settings so it dosent need one
[15:58] <Dan_L> Pascat:  install basket.  Or I'll report you to Obama and have you sent to guantanimo bay.  Seriously.
[15:58] <Pascat> basket?
[15:58] <Eruaran> Dan_L: I have always avoided ATI and used Nvidia... but I got this HD3650 for free and its quite nice... so I guess I have to suck it up and work the problem :P
[15:59] <James147> Eruaran: can you not install the drives via "jockey-kde"? that normally handels most of the work
[15:59] <Dan_L> Eruaran:  I'm using the power of the google to see what I can find.  If I find something, I will claim I came up with it on my own and pass it along to you.
[15:59] <Eruaran> James147: I forget... is there a way to get x to re-detect settings?
[15:59] <Pascat> reeally...
[15:59] <Eruaran> Dan_L: thanks
[15:59] <Pascat> I should reinstall with Kubuntu and not gnome... The disk is cluttered with so much mixed stuff now :/
[15:59] <James147> Eruaran: delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
[15:59] <James147> !purekde
[15:59] <Eruaran> James147: ah thanks... I'll have a look and see what it says in there
[15:59] <Dan_L> Pascat:  if you're looking to get things done, basket is pretty uber.
[16:00] <Eruaran> James147: oh... delete it
[16:00] <Eruaran> Interestingly I've had less issues in general with Kubuntu than Ubuntu
[16:00] <Eruaran> lately
[16:01] <Eruaran> I was trying out Ubuntu yesterday... the software centre wouldn't work after updates
[16:01] <Eruaran> but I digress
[16:01] <Dan_L> tbh, I haven't had a real 'issue' with anybuntu in about a year.
[16:02] <Dan_L> I'm still trying to share the printer at my parents house.  My dad had a little problem with installing 'codecs'---if ya know what I"m saying.
[16:02] <Dan_L> so I moved him to Kubuntu.
[16:02] <Dan_L> But making the printer share has been a nightmare times 5
[16:02] <Eruaran> I tend to like KDE apps better in general
[16:03] <Eruaran> I like Dolphin better than Nautilus etc
[16:03] <Dan_L> Euraran:  for sure.  and yukakke
[16:03] <Dan_L> or yuakake
[16:03] <Dan_L> or whatever it's called.
[16:03] <Eruaran> yes
[16:03] <Dan_L> I don't speak spanish so I don't know what that word means.
[16:03] <Eruaran> Its a Quake console clone
[16:04] <James147> might want to take this to #kubuntu-offtopic  :)
[16:04] <Eruaran> yes
[16:04] <Dan_L> I use it pretty religiously.
[16:04] <Eruaran> sorry...
[16:05] <Eruaran> my xorg.conf says Driver "fglrx" even though I've installed RadeonHD
[16:06] <Eruaran> So, we just delete xorg.conf these days?
[16:06] <Dan_L> Pascat:????
[16:06] <Dan_L> I solved your problem
[16:06] <Dan_L> I think
[16:07] <James147> Eruaran: or mv
[16:07] <Eruaran> James147: ok
[16:07] <unixboss> slm
[16:09] <Eruaran> now that I've deleted it do I just restart x?
[16:09] <unixboss> kubuntu kurdum yardim lazim
[16:10] <Eruaran> !tur
[16:10] <unixboss> yes
[16:10] <Eruaran> I dunno what ! to give the bot for turkish
[16:11] <unixboss> ok don worry
[16:12] <anzwaits> hello any kde experts here?
[16:12] <James147> Eruaran: if you make any change to xorg.conf you have to restart x
[16:12] <unixboss> to day setup kubuntu verry expert i like this
[16:12] <James147> !ask | anzwaits
[16:14] <anzwaits> I just want to know what are the advantages of kwin over compiz? which is the preferred one.
[16:14] <James147> anzwaits: kwin :p  it is better intergrated into kde
[16:14] <James147> anzwaits: compiz was only used in the past to get desktop effects, which kwin can now do by its self
[16:15] <anzwaits> but, my friends say compiz have more display optins.
[16:15] <pvandewyngaerde> if i try to disable the password prompt when opening the laptop lid, the option that is available does not work, editing /etc/default/acpi-support does not work, any other hints ?
[16:15] <Eruaran> James147: I got my normal resolution back... but System Setting now crashes if I click on Desktop...
[16:15] <James147> they do have slightly different effects (compiz might have more) but kwin also has some neat features like window grouping and as of 4.5 a tiled window placment
[16:16] <Eruaran> This is really getting ridiculous
[16:16] <unixboss> i have setup mac osx 10.6.3  sony wio so good setup because start dont kernel panic its a blank screan what hapend
[16:16] <James147> Eruaran: sorry :( have no clue why it would do that
[16:16] <James147> anzwaits: unless you spicifically want soemthing from compiz I suggest just sticking wiht kwin
[16:17] <anzwaits> okay, I hope this kwin is integrated with luicid, am I rite?
[16:18] <anzwaits> okay, James, can you tell me how to configure this kwin in lucid?
[16:18] <James147> anzwaits: intergrated? it is used by kubuntu lucid by default
[16:18] <Eruaran> James147: It might have something to do with fglrx
[16:18] <James147> anzwaits: for desktop effects: system settings > desktop effects :D for the actual look thats in umm, system settings > appearnce i think...
[16:19] <anzwaits> sorry for my ignorace James :(
[16:19] <anzwaits> Anyway thanks a lot, you guys rokkk :)
[16:19] <James147> anzwaits: there are also some option by right clicking on a window title bar
[16:20]  * James147 love the bespin window style :D
[16:22] <bodom> Hi there. Phonon is conflicting with non-phonon applications. May someone help me?
[16:25] <Eruaran> now kdeinfo is crashing as well..
[16:25] <Eruaran> This is ridiculous
[16:26] <Eruaran> All I'm getting out of this is a headache and a big fat reminder on why I never use ATI
[16:27] <BluesKaj> I'm getting mangled web pages on Lucid with FF and chrome, but I think my problem is flash .
[16:28] <Eruaran> Since I have installed radeonhd, should I now remove anything to do with fglrx? Because when System Settings crashed, the debugging mentioned fglrx for some reason...
[16:28] <BluesKaj> <--ati x200m
[16:29] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, not sure lemme check
[16:29] <Eruaran> Yeah well right now I'm thinking of expunging anytihng to do wth ATI from my system and throwing this card out in the street
[16:29] <Eruaran> because, as usual, anything ATI is just causing too many problems
[16:30] <Eruaran> System Settings and KDEinfo now crashing...
[16:30] <Eruaran> what the hell
[16:30] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, yes, youshould actually drop to a tty and remove the fglrx driver
[16:30] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: Just the driver?
[16:30] <BluesKaj> stop kdm first
[16:31] <bodom> anybody?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> yes, it will take that catalyst thing with it if it's installed too
[16:32] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: I have fglrx, fglrx-modaliases... and yeah I was going to mention catalyst... I only just noticed that is installed...
[16:32] <anzwaits> Hey, I am using 10.04, amarok installed by default. But we I try to play music its not working. any guess?
[16:33] <Eruaran> anzwaits: do you have sound at all?
[16:33] <James147> anzwaits: for mp3s? you will need to install "kubuntu-restricted-extras" to play them
[16:33] <Eruaran> ah
[16:33] <Eruaran> of course
[16:33] <anzwaits> I have installed mediubuntu repos and then vlc
[16:33] <anzwaits> so vlc, mplayer, audecious have sound
[16:34] <anzwaits> but amarok doesnot. I noticed that .wav files are ok. but mp3 doesnot.
[16:34] <James147> anzwaits: install "kubuntu-restricted-extras" to get the extra codes you need for mp3s
[16:35] <James147> they are not shiped with kubuntu due to licencing restrictions, dam restriced formats :(
[16:35] <anzwaits> Ohh okay. is this cause an issue only with amarok ?
[16:35] <James147> anzwaits: with most players
[16:36] <James147> anzwaits: they cannot include mp3 support when they ship kubuntu as its not an open format
[16:36] <anzwaits> okay .Thanks James. Lemme try that.
[16:36] <pvandewyngaerde> anyone here with a laptop that can help me test some behaviour when closing the lid ?
[16:37] <James147> pvandewyngaerde: what behaviour?
[16:37] <pvandewyngaerde> i have set the action to do nothing when closing the lid but it stil locks the screen and asks for a password when i open it
[16:38] <James147> pvandewyngaerde:  is there an option to lock the screen on resume? (laptops booting atm)
[16:38] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, use your package manager to see which drivers are installed pls
[16:39] <pvandewyngaerde> James147:  yes, a general configuration option, not linked to any power profile
[16:39] <pvandewyngaerde> i have disabled it
[16:40] <pvandewyngaerde> this is in my  ~/.kde/share/config/powerdevilrc   in  [General] section :  configLockScreen=false
[16:41] <James147> pvandewyngaerde: not seeing that behaviour here (on kde 4.5 RC2)
[16:41] <James147> and dont remember ever seeing it lock the screen when the option wernt enabled :(
[16:43] <pvandewyngaerde> the popupnotifier shows a powerdevil warning:   screen is locked    when reopened it and typed my pw
[16:45] <Eruaran> fglrx, catalyst removed
[16:45] <James147> pvandewyngaerde: what version of kde are you running?
[16:45] <Eruaran> System Settings not crashing now
[16:46] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, do you have org-driver-fglrx installed?
[16:47] <pvandewyngaerde> Ubuntu maverick (development branch)   KDE Development Platform: 4.4.92 (KDE 4.4.92 (KDE 4.5 RC2)) hpelitebook8530 2.6.35-8-generic #13-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 14 03:01:08 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:47] <MaVe> MAVERICK.
[16:47] <MaVe> REALLY?
[16:47] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: no
[16:47] <James147> pvandewyngaerde: you might want to try #ubuntu+1 for maverick support
[16:48] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: I think aptitude removed it... I only have xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd installed
[16:48] <BluesKaj> ok good
[16:50] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: System Settings now says compositing is not supported and KInfoCentre is telling me my 3d accelerator is unknown
[16:50] <pvandewyngaerde> yeah, i asked  before, no one responded,    and kubuntu+1 is invite only
[16:50] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: Should I just reinstall radeonhd?
[16:51] <James147> pvandewyngaerde: #ubuntu+1 is for both ubuntu and kubuntu and all other versions
[16:51] <James147> pvandewyngaerde: best is to keep asking every 10 mins or so... if you ask in this change again I suggest mentioning your version
[16:52] <BluesKaj> Eruaran,drop to tty with alt+f2 , sudo service kdm stop , then, sudo aptitude remove xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd, then just reinstall it, and sudo service kdm start, the alt +f7 to return to the desktop
[16:52] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: ok
[16:52] <James147> BluesKaj: you mean alt+crtl+F1 ?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> yes sorry
[16:53] <James147> Eruaran: I advice logging out first :) stopping kdm dosnt cleanly log you out
[16:54] <BluesKaj> James147,` I'v never had a problem , one just needs to stop X
[16:55] <James147> BluesKaj: it might not save settings and such... not a major problem I just dont l;ike advising ppl to do things that might lose them stuff
[16:55] <James147> BluesKaj: if you havent changed anything then it dosnt make much difference
[16:55] <BluesKaj> logging out isn't needed James147 , he just reinstalling the driver
[16:56] <Eruaran> James147: ah... too late :P
[17:03] <Eruaran> Ok... plymouth splash is  back to normal
[17:03] <Eruaran> But System Settings is still saying composoting is not supported
[17:04] <Eruaran> xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd is installed
[17:04] <Eruaran> But KDE doesn't seem to know I have a graphics card and driver
[17:08] <Eruaran> Well this is pretty much screwed up
[17:09] <Eruaran> I'm back to where I started, with games crashing... only KDE has no compositing now as well
[17:09] <Eruaran> And its now 2am
[17:10] <Eruaran> I really think if vendors wont provide documentation so stuff like this works properly then the community should just tell them to go forth and multiply
[17:12] <Eruaran> I'm worse off now than then I started
[17:17] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, I don't think the radeonhd supports 3d and dir
[17:17] <Eruaran> ...
[17:18] <Eruaran> What does it support?
[17:19] <Eruaran> So, I should be using fglrx then
[17:19] <BluesKaj> try glxinfo | grep direct then glxinfo | grep 3D
[17:20] <Eruaran> direct rendering: Yes
[17:21] <Eruaran> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV635 9598) 20090101 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 TCL DRI2     GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_cube_map,
[17:21] <elitrou> hello, i have some difficulties with mobile broadband connection with knetwork manager. anyone willing to help?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, seems fine , what about desktop effects in system settings , are they enabled ?
[17:23] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: no
[17:23] <BluesKaj> enable them if possible
[17:23] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: System Settings says, "Compositing is not supported on your system"
[17:25] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, ok I'm going to check my old desktop system that uses ati ...bbiab
[17:26] <Eruaran> ok
[17:31] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-ati , that's a support for the hd driver , they should have instal;l
[17:32] <BluesKaj> ed together whe the sytem was installed
[17:32] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: ah ok
[17:33] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: Aptitude removed a number of packages when I removed fglrx... maybe its possible it was installed but got removed?
[17:35] <Eruaran> Restarted x but System Settings still says the same thing
[17:36] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, which graphics card ?
[17:36] <Urtz> hi
[17:36] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: It is a Gigabyte Radeon HD 3650
[17:37] <Urtz> I installed the RC2 of KDE 4.5, and Dolphin crashes many times, do you have this bug also, or it this only mine?
[17:38] <James147> Urtz: hasent done that here (upgraded from RC1)
[17:39] <James147> Urtz: you could try renaming ~/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc  to reset dolpih to its default settings to see if its a config error
[17:40] <Urtz> James147: I did upgrade from RC1 too. It is odd, because it crashes sometimes when I only have the window open, but for example using Firefox.
[17:40] <Urtz> James147: I will try that, thanks.
[17:41] <James147> Urtz: if that dosent help I suggest trying to create a new user and seeing if you experence the same problems with that, if you do its likly to be a config error
[17:46] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, there's a bug filed for the newer ati driver
[17:47] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: So, uninstall and go to fglrx?
[17:48] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: That is what 'Hardware Drivers' offered me before... (kde-jockey?)
[17:48] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, check this out , it may apply tour driver https://launchpad.net/~info-g-com/+archive/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc
[17:49] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, yes try the jockey but install the patch above
[17:50] <Eruaran> The patch works with fglrx or radeonhd?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> look at the url
[17:52] <BluesKaj> I have to go out for a while..bbl, errands
[17:52] <Eruaran> ok
[17:52] <Eruaran> Thanks for the help BluesKaj
[18:09] <jillsmitt> Akregator always fails
[18:09] <jillsmitt> every time i start it
[18:16] <jillsmitt> Executable: akregator PID: 3644 Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault)
[18:18] <Torch> jillsmitt: pastebin a backtrace, maybe that shows what's going on.
[18:18] <jillsmitt> Torch: i dont have debuging symbols ^(
[18:18] <Torch> jillsmitt: install them ;-)
[18:18] <jillsmitt> teach me then how to install
[18:19] <Torch> jillsmitt: install the package kdepim-dbg
[18:20] <Torch> jillsmitt: the rule is: debug symbols are in the package <source-package-name>-dbg
[18:20] <jillsmitt> cool
[18:20] <Torch> jillsmitt: source package for akregator is kdepim, so it has to be kdepim-dbg
[18:25] <jillsmitt> only 8% done
[18:33] <kalib> Hi guys. I was trying to cmake a plasmoid and got this error message: http://pastebin.com/BdaimGd1
[18:33] <kalib> anyone who can help me?
[18:33] <Torch> kalib: you need the dev packages
[18:33] <kalib> build-essential ?
[18:33] <kalib> already installed it.
[18:33] <kalib> anything else?
[18:33] <Torch> kalib: the kde dev packages
[18:34] <Torch> kalib: kdelibs5-dev (sic)
[18:34] <kalib> ok.. I'll try it..
[18:34] <kalib> thanks
[18:34] <James147> kalib: you also may need kdebase-workspace-dev
[18:35] <kalib> James147, ;]
[18:36] <elitrou> hi, i need some help with mobile broadband connection using knetwork manager. anyone?
[18:37] <James147> elitrou: you might want to describe the difficulty you are having with it, more detail you give the more likly someone that know how to fix it will respond :)
[18:39] <elitrou> i'm using USB modem bandluxe c278 under kubuntu lucid x64
[18:40] <elitrou> the problem is that i have to try several times until the connection is reached, lately the connection itself is making problems too
[18:41] <elitrou> knetwork manager signs that the connection is established, but no traffic is available. once again i need to reconnect for several times.
[18:41] <elitrou> any ideas?
[18:42] <James147> elitrou: afraid i dont know much about mobile boardband, they only ting I can suggest is you check the signal strength...
[18:43] <elitrou> James147: the signal is all right, when connected it works fine for hours
[18:44] <James147> elitrou: or you could try the gnome networkmanager, it has work better then knetwork manager in the past (install: network-magager-gnome  run: nm-applet (after killing knetworkmanager)
[18:44] <James147> elitrou: or even wicd (will remove Network manager)
[18:44] <kalib> Torch, James147 worked now.. but I had to install both.. kdelibs5-dev and kdebase-workspace-dev
[18:45] <kalib> thank you guys...
[18:45] <elitrou> James147: i'm looking for a script to connect as well, to see if there are any warnings or errors
[19:15] <eagles0513875> hey guys im trying to run upgrade to update some available packages but for some reason all repos for me are getting an error 404 hwo can i fix that
[19:17] <BluesKaj> hey eagles0513875 , which server , euro or main ?
[19:17] <eagles0513875> italian mirrors
[19:17] <eagles0513875> the fastbull italian mirror
[19:17] <eagles0513875> when i run update they update fine when i run upgrade it doesnt work
[19:18] <BluesKaj> try the main for now , just change it in the package manager , it'll save time rather than changing every repos in the sources.list
[19:20] <eagles0513875> ill change it to another italian mirror
[19:21] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: not to mention im having x issues again :(
[19:22] <Eruaran> welcome back BluesKaj
[19:23] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj:
[19:24] <eagles0513875> W: Failed to fetch http://giano.com.dist.unige.it/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/universe/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[19:24] <eagles0513875> humm turns out there is somethign up wiht the italian mirrors
[19:27] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: I'm not quite clear - Was I supposed to use the xorg patch with fgrlx or radeonhd?
[19:31] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, open the jockey and use the reommended driver, then patch it
[19:31] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: ok
[20:04] <Throd> yop !
[20:15] <any> hola
[20:16] <Misterio> !es | any
[20:22] <jillsmitt> Torch: http://pastebin.ca/1902568
[21:02] <Ivo_link> hi to u all! Does anyone recently installed kubuntu and noticed that sound works but really low???!!! Is there a way to fix this? Thanks
[21:02] <well_laid_lawn> Ivo_link: in a terminal run   alsamixer   and turn things up
[21:03] <starslights> hi , have you try to look in kMix? you can manage the volume
[21:03] <Ivo_link> yeah
[21:03] <Ivo_link> done both...still stays the same
[21:04] <Ivo_link> everything is up, in kmix and alsamixer
[21:04] <Ivo_link> i had ubuntu and it sounded great! dont know why this happened...
[21:04] <well_laid_lawn> was the right sound card selected when you did that?
[21:05] <starslights> yeah but maybe you need add new chan , look if all your peripheric are set, by me all be fine
[21:05] <Ivo_link> it only gives one option hda intel analog
[21:05] <starslights> but i have to add the others chan for my 5.1 for exemple
[21:05] <Ivo_link> alsamixer...standard
[21:05] <Ivo_link> or system standard
[21:06] <Ivo_link> its a laptop
[21:06] <Ivo_link> forgot to mention!
[21:09] <Ivo_link> well_laid_lawn: could u tell me how many options u have in alsamixer? i think theres a few missing in mine....
[21:12] <well_laid_lawn> sure
[21:12] <Ivo_link> thks
[21:13] <well_laid_lawn> I have eleven on my intelhda card
[21:13] <Ivo_link> i have nine :(
[21:13] <Ivo_link> somethings a bit wrong here
[21:13] <Ivo_link> i dont even have the channel options
[21:13] <heinkel_111> hello
[21:14] <heinkel_111> there is a command to find out which kubuntu is installed on this computer?
[21:14] <heinkel_111> like uname but showing kubuntu name version instead of linux core version?
[21:14] <Ivo_link> i had 8, but change the alsabase.conf file to activate headphones.
[21:15] <well_laid_lawn> heinkel_111: you could try   lsb_release
[21:15] <Ivo_link> what is that...?
[21:16] <troopperi> uname -a
[21:17] <heinkel_111> well_laid_lawn: does not seem to work...i get no "lsb modules available"
[21:18] <well_laid_lawn> k
[21:18] <heinkel_111> but then i tried lsb_release --codename
[21:18] <heinkel_111> and that seems work... jaunty, apparently
[21:18] <heinkel_111> = 9.04?
[21:19] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[21:20] <heinkel_111> thank you
[21:20] <heinkel_111> starting upgrade hell :)
[21:21] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[21:38] <jschall> my OCD needs to rearrange the favorites at the top of the search and launch page in plasma-netbook, and i don't see a way to do that. is there a way?
[22:01] <Tzzimy> is there a recommended backup utility (preferably with incremental backup feature)?
[22:05] <well_laid_lawn> !backup > Tzzimy
[22:05] <Tzzimy> thanks m8 :)
[22:11] <BrotherDave> So I downloaded a windows 7 iso so I can dual boot, but when I extract the rar it's just like... not even there.
[22:12] <BrotherDave> ?
[22:14] <well_laid_lawn> which folder were you in when you did the extracting BrotherDave
[22:14] <BrotherDave> Well it's in downloads, so I just extracted it to there and the folder was empty.
[22:15] <well_laid_lawn> I would look in my home folder
[22:16] <BrotherDave> Nothing there. :/
[22:16] <well_laid_lawn> and the rar is gone?
[22:16] <BrotherDave> rar is still here
[22:17] <well_laid_lawn> try again maybe?
[22:17] <BrotherDave> When I extract it, it just creates an empty folder.
[22:18] <well_laid_lawn> try it from the command line   unrar e /path/to/rar
[22:37] <Like> any ham here ?
[22:37] <Like> i get cold please
[22:41] <ridin> in konqueror only a black box appears when playing youtube?
[22:43] <ridin> flash
[22:46] <BluesKaj> ridin, install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:46] <ridin> sound plays bluekaj, guess i'll try that
[22:48] <ridin> BluesKaj, did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonefree, and went to konqueror and still having the same problem
[22:50] <BluesKaj> ridin,  flashplugin-nonfree
[22:50] <ridin> BluesKaj, did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, and went to konqueror and still having the same problem
[22:50] <ridin> sorry about the typo
[22:50] <well_laid_lawn> restart konq
[22:51] <ridin> well_laid_lawn, went into youtube and could hear sound like i said before, but no video
[22:52] <well_laid_lawn> did you close konq?
[22:52] <ridin> yes, and started it again
[22:52] <well_laid_lawn> k
[22:53] <BluesKaj> sometimes a reboot helps, ridin
[22:54] <ridin> alright, i'll do that
[22:54] <ridin> .... and there's no reboot button
[22:54] <ridin> oh well
[22:54]  * ridin holds down the power button
[22:55] <BluesKaj> ridin, right click on the desktop ,choose restart
[22:55] <BluesKaj> err leave, then restart
[23:01] <ridin> BluesKaj, disn't help
[23:01] <ridin> did not
[23:04] <BluesKaj> ridin, open your kpackagekit and choose settings /edit software sources/other software , enable everything except the cdrom
[23:05] <BluesKaj> then sudo aptitude update , then sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:09] <ridin> BluesKaj, did that and the problem was not fixed
[23:09] <ridin> i even restarted konqueror
[23:09] <Daughain> Hmmmm....Where would I look to find my VB install?
[23:10] <BluesKaj> ridin, maybe try a different browser
[23:10] <ridin> BluesKaj, okay. thanks for the help
[23:16] <Chase_> on Quassel! ^_^
[23:36] <Chase_> Hey, I have a question... Is there a way that when a window has lost focus long enough, it automatically minimizes to reveal the desktop?