[00:38] <stlsaint> quite...
[01:01] <Scunizi> quite .. or quiet?
[01:02] <stlsaint> both :P
[04:18] <stlsaint> duanedesign: ping
[05:12] <nhandler> stlsaint: pong
[05:15] <stlsaint> nhandler: pm?
[05:15] <nhandler> stlsaint: Sure, no need to ask
[05:15] <phillw> sorry nhandler I've gotten a hold of stlsaint on my trying to get https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp in line with wiki guide lines
[05:16] <nhandler> Ok phillw
[05:17] <phillw> I'll let you have a chat
[05:18] <pyrodood> I need guidance on setting up ubuntu x to output 720 resolution out of my 3-component output can anyone help me?
[05:27] <pyrodood> hello
[05:27] <stlsaint> pyrodood: sup
[05:28] <pyrodood> i'm looking to see if i can find some help
[05:29] <stlsaint> pyrodood: you say you have 3-component output? what do you mean?
[05:29] <pyrodood> 3-component hd
[05:29] <pyrodood> it also has hdmi, dvi, and vga
[05:29] <pyrodood> but i don't have an hdmi cable
[05:30] <pyrodood> and my plasma only has 3-component and hdmi connections, no vga
[05:30] <pyrodood> i have it hooked up with 3 component and was functioning in windows
[05:31] <pyrodood> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video
[05:32] <pyrodood> basically i'm on a vga monitor now cause after boot into ubuntu nothing shows up on my tv
[05:33] <stlsaint> so you are wanting to dual video?
[05:33] <stlsaint> or just use one video with 720 resolution?
[05:33] <pyrodood> well not really, i just want to output the 720 resolution to my tv
[05:33] <pyrodood> out of the component video output on the motherboard
[05:34] <pyrodood> out of the component video output on the motherboard, it has ati radeo 1200 built-in
[05:34] <phillw> stlsaint: the PM is my best shot on it
[05:35] <pyrodood> but if i could do dual monitors that would be ok i could just turn off the vga monitor
[05:35] <pyrodood> my goal was to just get it running on the tv though
[05:35] <stlsaint> phillw: their not wanting dual
[05:36] <stlsaint> unfortunately i must depart but i would recommend you start here:
[05:36] <stlsaint> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[05:36] <pyrodood> ok thanks
[05:36] <stlsaint> pyrodood: do you understand the use of xorg?
[05:36] <pyrodood> well not really
[05:37] <pyrodood> i mean i read some stuff and looked for xorg.conf but wasn't there
[05:38] <pyrodood> so i typed in xrandr
[05:39] <pyrodood> it shows vga connected (i'm on it), s-video disconnected, HDMI-0 disconnected
[05:40] <pyrodood> don't see anything listing the DVI or component video outputs unless they are somehow listed under HDMI
[05:40] <stlsaint> pyrodood: what system on you on and what release of ubuntu are you running?
[05:40] <pyrodood> 10.04
[05:40] <pyrodood> Ubuntu
[05:40] <stlsaint> you say you DO NOT have a xorg.conf
[05:42] <phillw> stlsaint: in 10.04 you not have a xorg.conf
[05:42] <pyrodood> cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[05:42] <phillw> you have to make one if you really want to use it
[05:42] <stlsaint> aye, well there may be a problem worth fixing
[05:44] <stlsaint> pyrodood: please view post#8 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1437980
[05:46] <stlsaint> pyrodood: you dont have a xorg cause ubuntu doesnt make one on its own by default but you can make one yourself
[05:47] <pyrodood> so if i type in gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:47] <stlsaint> that will open a document for you but it will be blank
[05:47] <pyrodood> it opens up a blank document then I just add something in there and save it and then reboot?
[05:48] <pyrodood> also if xrandr only shows VGA, S-video, HDMI does that mean the system is not seeing my component video or DVI?
[05:49] <stlsaint> shows you the names of different outputs available on your system (LVDS, VGA-0, etc.) and resolutions available on each:
[05:50] <pyrodood> perhaps if i buy an HDMI cable and connect it to the tv it will automatigally detect it and work?  then not fool with the xorg.conf unless that doesn't work
[05:50] <stlsaint> its all up to you mate
[05:50] <pyrodood> xranr list 3 devices - i'm thinking it should list at least 5
[05:51] <stlsaint> pyrodood: it will list what your system has capabilites to do
[05:51] <stlsaint> pyrodood: alright really...this time i must go...sorry i cant be of more help
[05:51] <stlsaint> nite all
[05:51] <pyrodood> well the system is capable of component video cause i was using it in windows but i don't see it show up in xrandr
[06:02]  * Sary is back (gone 00:06:16)
[06:02]  * Sary is away: Not @ Desk
[07:25]  * Sary is away: Not @ Desk
[08:39] <seidos> can someone pastebin this file for me:  us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_*_main_source_Sources
[08:56] <duanedesign> hello sebsebseb
[08:56] <duanedesign> sorry
[08:56] <duanedesign> i meant seidos
[09:25] <Maju> Hi all. I have a problem. I need to change permissions in usr/share/games/simutrans folder and cannot.
[09:26] <Maju> I know it's a "log as root" issue and I have tried the commands at the wiki, as recommended at forums but still can't change permissions
[09:27] <hobgoblin> Maju: got a link I can look at
[09:27] <Maju> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:28] <hobgoblin> oh - I know that one :)
[09:28] <hobgoblin> so what command are you using and what does it say when it fails
[09:29] <Maju> I' m trying to make the simutrans folder shared with Samba
[09:29] <Maju> So I can download a pak in it
[09:29] <Maju> I'm trying to use the graphic interface (I can't speak in UNIX)
[09:30] <hobgoblin> and using system - admin - shared folders is not working?
[09:31] <Maju> I'll try that. Hold on
[09:32] <Maju> I don't have that option.
[09:32] <Maju> I'm on Lucid
[09:33] <Maju> I remember on Hardy it was easy to temporarily log as root and operate the system at will.
[09:34] <hobgoblin> not used samba tbh - but I am on lucid and the option is there in my menu
[09:34] <hobgoblin> you can sudo -i to get a temporary root terminal
[09:35] <Maju> I just installed(reinstalled?) Samba cause the system asked me to but  doesn't help
[09:35] <Maju> But I do not have any "Shared Folders" menu in System - Administration
[09:37] <Maju> Uh. Now I did something slightly different and says: "net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /usr/share/games/simutrans as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own. 	Ask the administrator to add the line "usershare owner only = false"  	to the [global] section of the smb.conf to allow this.
[09:38] <Maju> I did the sudo -i, sudo su, etc but seems they are only useful for terminal
[09:39] <Maju> What I need is to temporarily be able to use the graphic interface as Root because in terminal I only know how to copy-paste what others suggest
[09:40] <Maju> You can use Ubuntu and have no idea on how to use a terminal, right?
[09:41] <hobgoblin> yep
[09:42] <hobgoblin> you can edit the file - gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf and do as it asks in the error
[09:44] <Maju> Thanks, I would never have been able to edit that file without your help. :)
[09:44] <hobgoblin> welcome
[09:44] <hobgoblin> make sure you put it in the global section
[09:45] <hobgoblin> good luck Maju
[09:48] <Maju> Managed to create a share but still cannot write in it.
[09:55] <Maju> Anyone there?
[09:58] <Maju> How do I change the owner of a folder from root to me (only user)?
[10:04] <duanedesign> hello Maju
[10:04] <duanedesign> Maju: you probably dont want to do that for folders outside of your $HOME
[10:05] <Maju> I probably do because I can't use a lot of stuff because it's controlled by Root
[10:05] <duanedesign> use 'sudo'
[10:06] <Maju> Sudo what? I said before I can't "speak" UNIX
[10:06] <Maju> NVM, think I found a shortcut here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/rootlauncher/
[10:07] <Maju> I know acting as root might pose a danger but not being able to do it is a big problem
[10:08] <duanedesign> Maju: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:08] <duanedesign> that explains the Ubuntu file permissions well. Why we use sudo ect
[10:09] <Maju> I started there and was of no help. The big problem is that the terminal is not graphic so I'd need to learn a lot only to use MY computer
[10:09] <Maju> After all it's MY computer, right?
[10:09] <duanedesign> Maju: yes if you want to open a Nautilus window with root permissions use: gksudo nautilus
[10:10] <Maju> Thanks. That means I can alter permissions in such folders as root, right? (Haven't tried yet)
[10:10] <duanedesign> i wouldnt. Its like that for security reasons
[10:12] <Maju> I'm just manipulating game folders, it should be safe
[10:12] <Maju> I find the phrase "security reasons" patronizing and annoying. After all it's my PC's security
[10:13] <Maju> But thanks anyhow
[10:13] <duanedesign> If you change ownership of all files from /, a lot of bad things will happen. Don't do it.
[10:13] <duanedesign> but like you said it is your computer :)
[10:14] <duanedesign> Maju:  we are here to offer our opinions and help. No one wants to 'annoy' you :)
[10:14] <Maju> I'm not changing ALL files but sometimes I need to allow admin to operate in such files
[10:15] <Maju> It may be wrong design by game-makers but the case is that that usr/share/games folder needs to be accessible
[10:17] <Maju> Anyhow, I solved my problem and could only do that ignoring the "it's dangerous" advice. I know you guys have our security in mind but I need to solve real problems beyond those concerns.
[10:17] <Maju> Thanks and bye
[10:17] <duanedesign> lol
[10:18] <duanedesign> beyond the concerns of messing up your computer?
[10:18] <duanedesign> its a thankless job, but someone has to do it :)
[10:29] <duanedesign> hello phillw*
[10:45] <DarkNemesis> how to petition the queen for royal warrant to arrest the cabinet for treason? they are a serious threat to the country's interests...
[10:51] <duanedesign> hmmm, not sure if i know how to do that
[10:52] <duanedesign> but that is definetly the most interesting question i have seen asked in here
[10:52] <duanedesign> :)
[11:14] <aenima> hey everyone i just wanted to know how it get rid of all my partitions! i have ubuntu lucid on onside an d debian  lenny on the other i want to delete dedian and try reinstall it !! thanks  in advance!!
[11:23] <duanedesign> aenima: just reformat the partition with debian
[11:24] <duanedesign> then extend the ubuntu partition into that space
[11:30] <aenima> i will give that a try !! thanks duanedesign!!
[11:31] <duanedesign> aenima: i have to run and grab breakfast
[11:31] <duanedesign> ill be back
[14:26] <svaksha> hi. does anyone know how to mount a device that is not being recognized?
[14:26] <svaksha> the hdd until y'day had two partitions and now there is no root file system.
[14:28]  * svaksha had run fsck y'day and it corrected bad blocks but does not wven recognize the device today --so i cant retrieve anything and cant even reinstall ubuntu
[14:28] <svaksha> TIA
[14:36] <nigelb> heh, I still seem to have voice here :)
[14:37] <paultag> nigelb: we've been all really busy and have not got to setting -VA to a lot of people
[14:37] <paultag> nigelb: sorry, I can devoice you if you'd like ;)
[14:37] <nigelb> haha
[14:37] <nigelb> paultag: I redirected svaksha here for help, just checking if you weren't giving her a hard time :D
[14:38]  * nigelb takes good look at /names
[14:38] <svaksha> nigelb: the channel was silent till you came here
[14:38] <paultag> not me!
[14:38] <nigelb> svaksha: ah
[14:38] <paultag> I'm putting together my G1 phone I just got
[14:38]  * svaksha grins
[14:38] <paultag> sorry, just want around svaksha :)
[14:38] <paultag> svaksha: someone will be along
[14:38] <nigelb> svaksha: meet paultag.  He's like awesome ;)
[14:38] <paultag> bah
[14:38] <svaksha> paultag: hi
[14:38] <paultag> hey there svaksha :)
[14:39] <nigelb> paultag: she has some disk problems which is way beyond my capability to solve :)
[14:39] <svaksha> anyone know how to use testdisk?
[14:39] <paultag> svaksha: you mentioned it looks like there are no more partitions on the drive?
[14:42] <svaksha> paultag: i tried fdisk, fsck, e2fsck, with the live cd, nothing worked. No partitions are visible so i suspect hw trouble but wanted to ask before opening it to check for loose connections
[14:42] <svaksha> opening == checking hardware
[14:43] <svaksha> also, i was told testdisk can recover partitions. but i've never used it so any tips ?
[14:43] <paultag> humm
[14:43] <paultag> svaksha: I don't know much about that util
[14:44] <paultag> svaksha: but I can help with general stuff
[14:44] <paultag> hold on
[14:44] <paultag> brb
[14:44] <paultag> on the phone
[14:48] <phillw> svaksha: I'd open the box up and check the disk is rotating and that all the cables are secure. As you say, it does seem to be hardware as opposed to s/ware. Another thing to check is your BIOS - see if the device is listed there.
[14:48] <svaksha> i found that its a packge in ubuntu (apt-get works) but how do i use it for a diskthat is not mounted?
[14:49] <svaksha> phillw: seems like i dont have more options :(
[14:49] <phillw> i'd certainly want to see it listed in BIOS
[15:08] <svaksha> phillw: its not listed in bios. i suppose its bad sectors then :(
[15:13] <phillw> svaksha: if it's not in bios then it looks like a hardware problem. it's time to open the box and check leads. if it is a desktop unit, swapping the data lead may work if your machine has a lead with 2 connectors on it. other than that you'd be looking at using a caddy for the drive.
[15:17] <svaksha> phillw: what is a caddy? would you happen to know where the data lead would be located on the mobo? i removed the wires and put them back and after that too i cant see the bios
[15:17] <svaksha> i mean cant see hdd
[15:18] <phillw> svaksha: it is an external usb device that you can plug a hard-drive into. when you power up the machine, does the disk spin up?
[15:23] <svaksha> yes it does
[15:23] <phillw> hmm, well the disk is not 'dead' :-)
[15:24] <phillw> if it spins up there is hope.
[15:24] <stlsaint> morning folks
[15:24]  * svaksha prays it does work
[15:26] <stlsaint> phillw: disk issues?
[15:27] <phillw> svaksha: has, the disk spins up, but the bios is not 'seeing' it.
[15:28] <phillw> svaksha: what is the make model of computer? it would let me get an idea of the type of hard drive you have.
[15:45] <phillw> wb svaksha
[15:46] <svaksha> phillw: thanks, i lost network and nigelb gave me the logs. ok, its an intel pentium 4, cpu 2.8ghz
[15:46] <svaksha> 32 bit
[15:46] <svaksha> pretty old m/c :)
[15:46] <phillw> no, the make and model of the computer, so I can have look to see how the hard disk is connected
[15:47]  * phillw perks up, sounds like it is made for lubuntu :-)
[15:47] <svaksha> phillw: hmmm... its an assembled machine (here, in .in i can buy the mobo, hdd , etc and assemble it)
[15:48] <svaksha> it == desktop
[15:48] <svaksha> so if you are looking for a brand name (dell) , then its not
[15:49] <phillw> okies, there will be a grey 'ribbon' cable connecting the hard drive to the mobo and a set of leads for the power connector.
[15:49] <svaksha> yes, i removed and re-fixed it
[15:50] <phillw> does that lead have more than one connector for hard-drives on it?
[15:50] <svaksha> there are two actually, one ribbon and another colored (black, red, green) cable
[15:50] <svaksha> yes
[15:50] <svaksha> both connect to hte hdd
[15:50] <svaksha> the*
[15:52] <phillw> the coloured one is the power lead. it will have 4 connectors on it. the data lead is the ribbon cable, it may be worth trying the other connector on the data lead.
[15:59] <svaksha> phillw: what do you mean by 'worth trying the other connector' -- do you meanit should be interchnged
[16:08] <phillw> yes, try the other connector, it's a real long shot. Also check that where the data lead connects to the mobo is secure.
[16:08] <phillw> one other thing, how much dirt is there on the mobo?
[19:13] <person_> Hey, I'm trying to install over my existing installation of 64-bit Ubuntu Linux with 32-bit Ubuntu linux, but am having some trouble.
[19:13] <person_> During installation, I didn't see an option to "install over" an existing installation, so I went to the option to manually partition.
[19:14] <person_> I tried clearing the current space allocated to Ubuntu 64-bit and replacing it with what was being installed but I get an error along the lines of...
[19:14] <holstein> person_: do you have anything else on the HD?
[19:14] <holstein> windows?
[19:14] <person_> `no root file system defined`
[19:15] <holstein> or another partition you need do save?
[19:15] <person_> yes i also have windows on it
[19:15] <person_> and i want to keep windows
[19:15] <holstein> OK
[19:15] <holstein> in the manual partioner
[19:15] <holstein> you need to select a partition as root
[19:16] <holstein> i forget what it looks like in there
[19:16] <holstein> but i think its as easy as right clicking
[19:16] <holstein> and selecting root
[19:16] <holstein> on the 'big' linux partition
[19:16] <holstein> you could also wipe that partition
[19:16] <holstein> the linux one/ones
[19:16] <holstein> and start over and do it the way you did it before
[19:16] <person_> hmm well I believe the partition for 64-bit is /dev/ext4
[19:17] <person_> so I clicked it and clicked delete
[19:17] <person_> and it wiped it (though this can be reverted)
[19:17] <person_> then in that free space I clicked add
[19:17] <holstein> you dont even need to delete it
[19:17] <holstein> but its OK if you did
[19:17] <holstein> just make a new ext4 part
[19:18] <holstein> and set it to root
[19:18] <person_> hmm one sec (computer in other room). i don't remember there being a root option
[19:18] <holstein> root = "/"
[19:18] <holstein> look for that sign too
[19:18] <holstein> the "/" sign
[19:19] <person_> ah okay one second
[19:20] <person_> Worked! Thanks!
[19:20] <holstein> person_: :)
[19:20] <stlsaint> person_: oh no prob :D
[19:20] <stlsaint> holstein: oh sorry :)
[19:21] <stlsaint> i joined a room and first thing i see is Worked! Thanks!
[19:21] <holstein> no worries :)
[19:21] <holstein> it was an install issue
[19:21] <phillw> nice one holstein :-D
[19:21] <holstein> person had a windows install and a 64bit isntall
[19:21] <holstein> side by side
[19:21] <holstein> and wanted to  wipe the ubuntu install
[19:21] <stlsaint> nice
[19:21] <holstein> and reinstall 32bit
[19:22] <holstein> and was having some issues in the custom partitioner
[19:23] <DarkNemesis> dunno if anyone is interested in tor and wikileaks http://stream.hope7radio.com:8000/listen.pls this is a live stream of a hacker conf where wikileaks are speaking including TOR
[22:05] <tpjmiami> hi, i just did the latest 10.04 updates, and have the following sound problems:
[22:05] <tpjmiami> 1) no sound whatsoever in firefox
[22:06] <tpjmiami> 2) system sounds/alerts get cut off halfway through
[22:06] <tpjmiami> 3) pulseaudio vctrl says "connection failed"
[22:06] <tpjmiami> any ideas anyone?
[22:07] <tpjmiami> i looked at alsamixer and all my sound settings are unmuted and maxed
[22:08] <ibuclaw> tpjmiami, does /dev/snd/* exist?
[22:09] <Cuthbeorht> just got mysqld working!
[22:09] <Cuthbeorht> finally, after 3 hours of putzing around
[22:09] <Cuthbeorht> tpjmiami:  is it only firefox?
[22:11] <tpjmiami> ibuclaw, will check
[22:12] <tpjmiami> ibuclaw, yes it is a directory
[22:14] <tpjmiami> cuth: i tried playing music on movie player, and songs play very quickly (3 min song in 15 secs) w/ no sound
[22:14] <tpjmiami> cuth: but sound effects/alerts work, though cutoff as i mentioned
[22:14] <tpjmiami> before these latest updates sound worked fine on 10.04
[22:15] <tpjmiami> any ideas?
[22:22] <tpjmiami> any ideas?  had to reboot
[22:22] <Cuthbeorht> tpjmiami:  do u know waht sound chipset ur using?
[22:23] <tpjmiami> tried testing music out and songs keep playing one after the other without stopping, w/ no sound
[22:23] <Cuthbeorht> have u tried to reinstall pulseaudio?
[22:23] <tpjmiami> these updates have completely messed up my computer
[22:23] <tpjmiami> un/re-installed padevchooser and pavucontrol, still don't work
[22:24] <tpjmiami> cuth: how do i check chipset?
[22:28] <Cuthbeorht> lspci | grep 'Audio'
[22:29] <tpjmiami> cuth: it says audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 high def audio controller (rev 01)
[22:30] <Cuthbeorht> ok
[22:30] <Cuthbeorht> sounds like its recognized
[22:31] <tpjmiami> weird... i get sound for split second, then off, on a mozilla video
[22:31] <Cuthbeorht> but mp3's and other media play fine?
[22:32] <tpjmiami> cuth: no, see my comments above
[22:32] <tpjmiami> they play fast and out of control
[22:32] <Cuthbeorht> sorry
[22:32] <Cuthbeorht> missed that
[22:32] <Cuthbeorht> have u tried the ubuntu forums?
[22:33] <tpjmiami> yes... too many suggestions to remove certain packages which i don't understand
[22:33] <Cuthbeorht> ok
[22:33] <tpjmiami> really hesitant to remove things i'm not familiar with, especially through terminal
[22:33] <tpjmiami> i'm very new to ubuntu
[22:33] <Cuthbeorht> thats ok
[22:33] <Cuthbeorht> offhand i dont know what u can do
[22:33] <tpjmiami> it's just very frustrating with these updaetes
[22:33] <Cuthbeorht> yup
[22:33] <Cuthbeorht> thats pulseaudio for ya
[22:34] <Cuthbeorht> its one of linux's weakest areas
[22:34] <tpjmiami> my computer keeps losing capabilities with every successive ubuntu update
[22:34] <tpjmiami> honestly never had these issues in the past, as bad as windows was
[22:35] <stlsaint> whats all this linux bashing im seeing??
[22:35] <tpjmiami> anyway, would be grateful for any pointers at this stage
[22:35] <Cuthbeorht> m$ does one thing really well:  building a kernel to handle a lot of hardware
[22:35] <Cuthbeorht> no bashing
[22:35] <Cuthbeorht> just pointing out weaknesses
[22:36] <tpjmiami> cuth: thks
[22:36] <Cuthbeorht> kde useR?
[22:36] <Cuthbeorht> user*
[22:36] <tpjmiami> i'm only saying that i've gone from using all my peripherals with vista (bad as it was), to half w/ koala, to none with lynx
[22:38] <Cuthbeorht> dumb question:  do sites like youtube work?
[22:38] <stlsaint> Cuthbeorht: well Microsoft does not handle the drivers themselves...they get them from the makers of the system
[22:38] <stlsaint> not to hard for them ;)
[22:38] <stlsaint> Cuthbeorht: what weaknesses?
[22:38] <Cuthbeorht> sound
[22:38] <Cuthbeorht> wifi
[22:38] <Cuthbeorht> it has its issues
[22:39] <Cuthbeorht> im just pointing out no OS is perfect
[22:40] <Cuthbeorht> tpjmiami:  im going thru the forums now.  unfortunatly, nothing is similar with a quick glance
[22:41] <Cuthbeorht> tpjmiami:  i recommend posting on the ubuntu forums and doing a google search
[22:41] <tpjmiami> cuth:  youtube and other video sites do not have sound
[22:42] <Cuthbeorht> ok
[22:42] <Cuthbeorht> thought u mightve forgot to install the mp3 packages
[22:44] <Cuthbeorht> tpjmiami:  i found other ppl that are having simialr issues with ur sound card
[22:44] <stlsaint> Cuthbeorht: have you view the troubleshooting guide?
[22:45] <Cuthbeorht> im good.  tpjmiami has the problem
[22:46] <Cuthbeorht> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=32478&p=190869
[22:46] <Cuthbeorht> that seems promising
[22:47] <tpjmiami> cuth: thks and will read now
[22:47] <Cuthbeorht> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=23139
[22:47] <Cuthbeorht> thats te solution to the guys problem
[22:47] <Cuthbeorht> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[22:47] <Cuthbeorht> this one also looks good.
[22:49] <Cuthbeorht> and if ur worried about screwing stuff up by modifying .conf files, simply make a backup of the file with mv old.conf old.conf.backup
[22:50] <Cuthbeorht> before making changes to it
[22:52] <Cuthbeorht> sure
[22:54] <tpjmiami> will reboot and return as per the thread, in case cuth returns
[23:10] <tpjmiami> hi cuth
[23:10] <tpjmiami> afraid to say that the changes didn't work
[23:11] <tpjmiami> the instructions from this page i mean: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=23139
[23:11] <Cuthbeorht> ok
[23:11] <Cuthbeorht> did u read the guide from the ubuntu forums?
[23:13] <Cuthbeorht> other than that, dont know what else to try
[23:13] <Cuthbeorht> has anyone else offered any help?
[23:13] <tpjmiami> if u mean the sound solutions guide, will read it
[23:14] <Cuthbeorht> cuz, i gotta go
[23:15] <tpjmiami> k, thanks for the help
[23:16] <Cuthbeorht> good luck