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[02:27] <rww> Hello! Can someone mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/606452 as Triaged and Medium or High (I'm not sure which) for me?
[02:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 606452 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center crash on load, UnboundLocalError in _get_channels (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,New]
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[03:00] <nigelb> rww: best way is to find the bug that got it into proposed in the first place
[03:00]  * nigelb goes to find it
[03:01] <rww> nigelb: changelog says "* softwarecenter/view/viewswitcher.py:  - remove specal cases for partner now that soyuz LP: #552560 is fixed (LP: #604693)
[03:01] <rww> which sounds supiciously relevant
[03:02] <nigelb> aha
[03:02] <nigelb> bug 604693
[03:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 604693 in software-center (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Partner repository now appears twice in navigation pane (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/604693
[03:03] <nigelb> rww: go say the bug there and also add "verification-failed" tag to it
[03:03] <nigelb> the qa team tracks those bugs specifically, quicker action if you comment there
[03:04] <rww> nigelb: alright. Should I leave the verification-needed tag alone, or remove it?
[03:05] <nigelb> I think you can remove it.  Its supposed to be changed I think.
[03:05] <nigelb> !sru
[03:05] <ubot2> Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[03:05] <nigelb> aha, there's the page :)
[03:06] <nigelb> rww: did that fix hit -updates?
[03:06] <rww> nigelb: nope, it's still in proposed
[03:06] <nigelb> thankfully
[03:07] <rww> looks like I need to hit Nominate for release on 606452 as well, according to that page
[03:07] <nigelb> rww: the old one?
[03:08] <nigelb> ah, yes
[03:08] <nigelb> I need to set importance to crtical
[03:12] <nigelb> oh wait, I tink the importance is only when it hits -updates :)
[03:18] <rww> I have no idea, bug importance confuses me :). It should be set Triaged though, right?
[03:18] <kermiac> nigelb: AFAIK as long as you change the tag to "verification-failed"  it shouldn't hit -lucid updates
[03:18] <nigelb> kermiac: yeah :)
[03:19] <nigelb> rww: the one you filed about failure?
[03:19] <rww> I didn't file it, but yeah
[03:19] <nigelb> set to confirmed and I'll set it as triaged
[03:21] <rww> done
[03:23] <nigelb> Done :)
[03:26] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[03:29] <rww> nigelb: awesome, thanks for your help :)
[03:30] <nigelb> rww: no problem.  thanks for helping out testing :)
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[07:31] <nUboon2Age> duanedesign: ping
[07:31] <duanedesign> hello nUboon2Age
[07:33] <nUboon2Age> hey duanedesign i see you are connected to the 100 papercuts project.  I'm wondering about user experience bugs that are larger than 100 papercuts.  How are they handled?
[07:36] <nUboon2Age> My understanding is that Mark Shuttleworth has set the vision for the user experience to be right up there with the Mac.  So when there are user experience bugs, how are they written up?  Are there examples I could look at?
[07:36] <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: I got drafted to do that forum post because I am forum staff. You might want to ask vish or someone in #ayatana
[07:37] <nUboon2Age> duanedesign: what is ayatana?
[07:38] <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana
[07:39] <nUboon2Age> hmmm... it looks like that might be just the thing i'm looking for... duanedesign, thanks.
[07:39] <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: here are some bugs associated with the project https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana
[07:40] <duanedesign> nUboon2Age: np :)
[07:41] <nUboon2Age> duanedesign: if they aren't quite the right group, they may know who would be... thanks. :)
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[10:09] <yofel> morning
[10:53] <stanley_robertso> hi all
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[13:49] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[17:28] <stanley_robertso> hi cyphermox
[17:48] <cyphermox> hi stanley_robertso
[18:56] <vish> sense: hey , what do we do with https://launchpad.net/~steven-fowlerjr , he has his info in the lp page which seems fine however ,there is no irc nick..
[18:57] <vish> do we reject or.. just approve for the mentoring..?
[18:57] <sense> vish: Ask him to fill in his IRC nick and let him stand on pending for a little longer.
[18:58] <vish> sense: hmm , i have used up all my "contact this user" privileges for today.. and he has no public id.. can you contact him?
[18:58] <sense> I'll contact him.
[18:58] <vish> neat!
[18:59] <stanley_robertso> hi vish
[18:59] <vish> stanley_robertso:  o/
[18:59] <stanley_robertso> howz it going virtuald
[19:00] <stanley_robertso> sorry.. i was referring vish .. not virtuald
[19:00] <sense> contacted!
[19:16] <nigelb> vish: maybe we should set, show email publically for mentorship candidates
[19:16] <nigelb> it gets a bit difficult if the admins are not able to get in touch
[19:20] <stlsaint> vish: ping
[19:21] <vish> stlsaint: hey , just caught me in time ;) i tried to catch you here , but couldnt find you
[19:21] <stlsaint> vish: i thought my mentor situation was hashed out??
[19:22] <vish> stlsaint: hmm , well we didnt have mentors and now we have them , but we need to know what time you will be available to assign you a mentor..
[19:23] <stlsaint> vish: i was under the impression that ddecator was going to be my mentor??
[19:23] <stlsaint> vish: after the one he has now assimilates to membership
[19:23] <vish> stlsaint: if he wants to, then there is no prob :)
[19:24] <vish> stlsaint: but still if you had a time listed there , we could have assigned another mentor right now..
[19:24]  * vish just assigned 6 students to a mentors..
[19:24] <vish> not the same mentor of course ;p
[19:25] <stlsaint> vish: tbh i know jack squat about UTC!
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[19:26] <vish> stlsaint: hmm , time converter ? http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/
[19:26]  * holstein updated availalbility on wiki :)
[19:26] <holstein> mikeh789 = holstein
[19:26] <yofel> UTC: open a terminal and type 'date -u' ?
[19:26] <nigelb> yofel: +1
[19:29] <vish> yofel: that gives present time and then we have to calculate a whole more.. converters allow us to be more lazy \o/
[19:29] <yofel> you just need to know the offset to your local time..
[19:30] <holstein> vish: i got my approval email just now... thanks
[19:30] <vish> holstein: np..
[19:35] <vish> yofel: well , offsetting the local time can confuse the best of us > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors?action=info
[19:35] <vish> nigelb: ;p
[19:36] <nigelb> vish: that was dst turning off/on thing
[19:36] <yofel> :D
[19:37] <stlsaint> vish: i am fine with waiting on ddecator but i will still update my wiki
[19:37] <vish> stlsaint: sure.. neat!
[19:38] <vish> oh boy!  ddecator sure has a lot of fans ;)
[19:41] <nigelb> vish: LOL, wats up?
[19:42] <yofel> vish: open a fanclub for him on LP :P
[19:44] <vish>  yeah , probably ddecator-poachers !
[19:44] <stlsaint> vish: not so much a fan of him but he knows that i had previous issues with bug squad so im holding him responsible for this go round ;)
[19:45] <vish> stlsaint: :D
[19:49] <penguin42> is the way to mark something as a papercut to do a 'Also affects project' ?
[19:51] <vish> penguin42: yup
[19:53] <penguin42> Ta
[19:54] <vish> stlsaint: but you gotta have applied for the mentoring team if you want ddecator too.. if you are not in the queue , then someone else might grab him :D
[19:58] <stlsaint> vish: i just applied for the wrong bugsquad...i just did the general bugsquad team on lp
[19:58] <stlsaint> vish: i have since joined the mentorship one but will that effect anything by joining the regular bugsquad one?
[19:59] <vish> stlsaint: nope , wont affect
[21:01] <LinuxGuy2009> Is there a PPA for the system wide EQ on Lucid? Is that project still ongoing?
[21:27] <penguin42> anyone know where I report minor issues on the launchpad.net website - just something that could improve on the hekp
[21:28] <yofel> usually file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad , you can ask in #launchpad too first
[21:30]  * penguin42 has managed to cook his 1st ppa and I thought I should post things that would have avoided the things I found confusing
[21:30] <yofel> penguin42: wait, what's the problem?
[21:32] <yofel> penguin42: if it's about ppas better directly file it against soyuz https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/
[21:32] <penguin42> yofel: OK, 1st one is that on https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA  it implies that your key is generated as soon as you activate your ppa - and I was waiting for it, thinking I would actually need to sign stuff with it; but it should say it's only generated you upload your 1st ppa
[21:33] <yofel> ah right (I was following in -packaging more or less)
[21:33] <penguin42> which shadeslayer was kind enough to set me right upon
[21:36] <yofel> ah right, actually it only shows it if you have packages in the ppa IIRC, if you delete all packages it'll be hidden again
[21:36] <yofel> not sure where to file a bug about the help page though..
[21:36] <yofel> maybe just file it against 'launchpad' after all
[21:36] <penguin42> I'll file it on bugs.launchpad, someone can always bounce it elsewhere
[21:37] <yofel> wgrant: ^
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[22:33] <plugwash> while updating a lucid chroot I got "start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused". I have a policy-rc,d in place which is supposed to stop anything getting started/stopped in the chroot
[22:33] <plugwash> sorry it's a maverick chroot not a lucid one
[22:34] <plugwash> is this a bug or is there something else that needs to be done these days to prevent package updates in a chroot from attempting to start/stop stuff?
[22:35] <kklimonda> plugwash: may be bug 430224
[22:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 430224 in upstart (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 3 other projects) "init: support chroots (affects: 13) (dups: 1) (heat: 213)" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430224
[23:00] <^arky^> hi vish
[23:08] <^arky^> vish,  Is there any bug relating to subtitle fonts in ubuntu,