| ubottu | Daekdroom called the ops in #ubuntu (tsccof) | 03:30 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, bilalakhtar said: !beer is <reply> Beer is not appreciated | 06:59 |
| bazhang | going to remove taev | 11:10 |
| ikonia | @mark #ubuntu Taev | 11:10 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 11:10 |
| ikonia | marking him - lets give him time | 11:10 |
| ikonia | I was typing the mark as you said you would remove him, so we are both in sync | 11:11 |
| bazhang | he's had way enough latitude and warnings | 11:11 |
| ikonia | I agree, one more and he's gone | 11:11 |
| ikonia | what the hell is going on in #ubuntu with the current users | 11:14 |
| ikonia | what a surprise Kwpolska is on a shellium account | 11:18 |
| ikonia | I've put a forward on all shellium accounts to #ubuntu-ops to get an exception for the moment. I'm going to raise the policy on free shell servers at the next irc meeting | 11:33 |
| bazhang | he was trolling. what a surprise | 11:33 |
| ikonia | bzshells and shellium are just a regular problem. | 11:34 |
| ikonia | I'll raise at the next meeting with either treat them the same as other gateways such as the floodbots manage it, or just block it | 11:34 |
| ikonia | people using free shells are only for %99 1 use, trolling | 11:34 |
| bazhang | seems to be the new mibbit | 11:34 |
| elky | nah, it's the mibbit that existed before mibbit existed. | 11:37 |
| ikonia | Kwpolska: you've been forwarded to this channel because you're comments in #ubuntu are unacceptable | 11:38 |
| ikonia | Kwpolska: calling people retards and being vauge in your questions is not something that we allow in the channel | 11:39 |
| ikonia | Kwpolska: do you understand that ? | 11:39 |
| ikonia | Kwpolska: if you don't wish to interact with this channel, you need to leave this channel and return when you want to talk about resolving your behaviour | 11:45 |
| topyli | Kwpolska: idling is not allowed here, please respond or /part the channel | 11:49 |
| ikonia | $10 says he's back for more silence in 10 minutes | 11:56 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (beltran appears to be abusive (test - contact LjL if this misdetects too badly)) | 12:15 |
| ubottu | oCean_ called the ops in #ubuntu (beltran) | 12:15 |
| beltran | hey you stupid fucking niggers, ban me see if i give a fuck you fucking cunt jew motherfuckers | 12:17 |
| beltran | god damn it, those fucking niggers in openbsd banned me, fuck those cock sucking jew cunts! | 12:17 |
| beltran | hey good people | 12:18 |
| beltran | im god fucking almighty and i demand respect, dont make me break out the caps | 12:18 |
| beltran | OH THATS IT, YOU FAGOTS ARE GONA BE SORRY NOW | 12:18 |
| ikonia | I just don't see the point in that behaviour | 12:19 |
| elky | ikonia, I'm not sure there is one beyond being an inconvenience to others. | 12:20 |
| ikonia | it's not really an inconvenience a 3 second distrction while your muted/banned | 12:20 |
| elky | Well, I'm not sure it was in his plan to be muted. | 12:20 |
| ikonia | totally pointless, no-one cares about the little outburst, you look stupid when you make crazy threats to random people on the internet then you're silenced to prove how powerless you really are | 12:21 |
| ikonia | it's not a good chain of events for the person making the comments | 12:21 |
| elky | ikonia, He's not really realising you can't see what he says. | 12:22 |
| ikonia | oh | 12:22 |
| elky | He also cannot spell "anonymous" | 12:22 |
| elky | Ok, he seems content to amuse himself screaming to an abyss. He'll bore eventually. | 12:23 |
| ikonia | sounds good, | 12:23 |
| ubottu | om26er called the ops in #ubuntu (beltran) | 12:44 |
| beltran | hey niggers what it be? | 12:45 |
| beltran | !ops ubottu | 12:45 |
| gnomefreak | keep eye on ubuverify | 12:46 |
| gnomefreak | in #u | 12:46 |
| gnomefreak | elky: care to forward him here? xdpirate im not sure how to do that yet, i havent had time to figure it out | 12:52 |
| gnomefreak | see his quit message | 12:52 |
| elky | there, i referred to the ban list and copied, i hope it works | 12:55 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 12:55 |
| elky | i've also forwarded beltran subnet here for the time being | 12:59 |
| gnomefreak | we now show oped actions in this channel :) | 13:02 |
| ikonia | ahhh the magic of kline | 13:14 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Niglop appears to be abusive (test - contact LjL if this misdetects too badly)) | 13:20 |
| ikonia | done | 13:20 |
| ikonia | eyes on niglop in #xubuntu | 13:35 |
| ikonia | %99.9999999999 certain troll | 13:35 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 13:39 |
| gnomefreak | ikonia: feel free to remove him/ban him/ as needed in #x | 13:47 |
| ikonia | he's gone hasn't he ? | 13:47 |
| gnomefreak | i removed him that is all i know of him | 13:48 |
| ikonia | ah, he won't be back | 13:48 |
| knome | probably will... ;) | 13:48 |
| knome | maybe #kubuntu ;) | 13:49 |
| gnomefreak | if he did it in #u than moved to #x he will be back | 13:49 |
| ikonia | nope, I'll put money on it | 13:49 |
| gnomefreak | if he does use another of our channels i would ask that staff get involved | 13:49 |
| knome | ikonia has probably secrectly banned him | 13:49 |
| knome | ;) | 13:49 |
| gnomefreak | ok another smoke be back | 13:51 |
| knome | hey Daviey :) | 13:54 |
| Daviey | het knome o/ | 13:54 |
| Daviey | hey* | 13:54 |
| knome | isn't het dutch? | 13:54 |
| knome | Daviey, how's your wardrobe? | 13:55 |
| IdleOne | FYI niglop runs Mint | 14:45 |
| hdpb | i was banned from ubuntu irc, but i am not sure why. could someone please explain? Thank you | 15:06 |
| IdleOne | hdpb: what other nicks do you use? | 15:08 |
| hdpb | this is the only one. I've used it for months, but just registered it. tried to log in today and it says i've been banned. Thank you for your help. | 15:09 |
| ikonia | it's just because you're using web chat | 15:09 |
| ikonia | you should have been redirected to #ubuntu-proxy-users | 15:09 |
| hdpb | thank you. would connecting thru empathy avoid the issue? | 15:11 |
| elky | Most likely. | 15:11 |
| hdpb | thank you again. I will give that a try. enjoy your day/evening! | 15:12 |
| Mamarok | I need to run, somebody should watch Dan_L and vot in #kubuntu, they seem to have some strange conceptions of what language is | 15:29 |
| ikonia | ok | 15:32 |
| === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| ikonia | Traveler8: hi | 16:08 |
| ikonia | thanks for joining | 16:08 |
| Traveler8 | -.- you.. | 16:08 |
| ikonia | ? | 16:09 |
| Traveler8 | sigh.. anyway, am i banned from #ubuntu-offtopic? | 16:09 |
| ikonia | sorry, what do you mean ? | 16:09 |
| ikonia | 16:08 < Traveler8> -.- you.. | 16:09 |
| ikonia | what did that mean ? | 16:09 |
| Traveler8 | i'm not even sure if your the one that banned me in the first place.. so disregard that comment pls | 16:09 |
| ikonia | what did that comment mean | 16:10 |
| Traveler8 | ... as far as i know, you have been helpful to me... pls disregard that comment.. | 16:10 |
| ikonia | Traveler8: what did the comment mean | 16:10 |
| Traveler8 | am i banned from any channels currently? | 16:10 |
| IdleOne | I would guess a childish attempt at saying " I'm upset " | 16:10 |
| ikonia | Traveler8: answer the question and we'll progress | 16:10 |
| ikonia | there we go | 16:11 |
| IdleOne | I did not see any bans | 16:11 |
| gord | uh, that didn't feel right | 16:12 |
| ikonia | it's not | 16:12 |
| gord | i mean the hounding on one question | 16:12 |
| ikonia | why ? | 16:12 |
| ikonia | he makes a comment to me, I want to know what it means before I start | 16:12 |
| ikonia | not unreasonable | 16:13 |
| gord | they apologised and wanted to move on, didn't seem right to keep hounding | 16:13 |
| ikonia | I didn't ask for an aplogy | 16:13 |
| ikonia | I asked what he meant | 16:13 |
| ikonia | the fact that he wouldn't tell me | 16:13 |
| ikonia | the first comment to someone who's trying to fix something for him, was random, I wanted to know what he meant | 16:14 |
| gord | the hounding felt aggressive and a bit abrasive is all | 16:14 |
| ikonia | I asked clear and clear and clear | 16:14 |
| ikonia | it's not hard to respond to a question | 16:14 |
| gord | thats not really what i am saying it wasn't how you asked, it was the refusal to move on, im just saying it felt aggressive and abrasive | 16:16 |
| ikonia | why would I move on with someone who refuses to answer a simple question ? | 16:17 |
| ikonia | he said he couldn't get into offtopic, I asked him to join here to help him, he makes a random comment, I want to know what it means before I progress | 16:17 |
| ikonia | it's that simple | 16:17 |
| ikonia | sorry to be harsh on that, but we spend time going through this with people, it's not hard to answer someone | 16:18 |
| gord | well lets put it this way, the guy left, it doesn't seem that he's actually banned, maybe just caught up in someone elses ban, maybe its a nice person but now we'll never know | 16:19 |
| ikonia | his first line in -ops was something he had to apologise for | 16:19 |
| ikonia | which from googling means "fuck you" | 16:19 |
| ikonia | the guy left because of his attitude | 16:19 |
| ikonia | the fact that he's asking in #ubuntu now for help with farscape running in firefox does not fill me with confidence on his intentions | 16:20 |
| gord | i don't think thats what his first line means at all | 16:20 |
| ikonia | what do you think it means ? | 16:20 |
| gord | "-.-" is an emoted face squinted eye face | 16:20 |
| ikonia | and the ...you | 16:21 |
| gord | the you refers to them thinking they had a problem with you, but then he realised he was confusing you with someone else and asked you to disregard | 16:21 |
| ikonia | then that's all he had to say | 16:21 |
| charlie-tca | Why else would he not expand on it? He refused to say what it meant knowing he was in trouble for it | 16:21 |
| ikonia | I don't know why he couldn't get in, I was going to try and help him, but if someone can't answer a simple question, why should I bother progressing it to more complex discussion | 16:22 |
| bazhang | not banned in -ot afaict | 16:23 |
| ikonia | I don't think he is either, hence why I asked him here to help him | 16:23 |
| gord | is this really how we are supposed to react to people? to start aggressively hounding them on a single turn of phrase which they admitted was misguided? essentially a guy joins, didn't maybe understand how much gravity there is on here for some reason and then got scared off | 16:23 |
| ikonia | gord: are we supposed to waste our time with people who won't respond to questions ? | 16:23 |
| gord | this is certainly not the ubuntu community spirit i know | 16:23 |
| bazhang | didn't see the 'hounding' tbh | 16:24 |
| ikonia | I called him in to help him and asked him a question on a commment HE chose to make | 16:24 |
| gord | ikonia, yes pretty much, part of the job | 16:24 |
| ikonia | no it's not | 16:24 |
| ikonia | I wanted to know what he meant before progressing | 16:24 |
| ikonia | the job is to resolve issues | 16:24 |
| IdleOne | I have asked him to return so we can figure out why he is unable to join | 16:25 |
| ikonia | why ? | 16:25 |
| IdleOne | Traveler8: thank you for comming back | 16:26 |
| Traveler8 | yea, i'm typing it just as its told to me.... and it's not joining | 16:26 |
| IdleOne | are you getting any errors? | 16:26 |
| Traveler8 | no errors given =/ | 16:26 |
| IdleOne | check your Server tab or Status tab | 16:26 |
| IdleOne | anything in there? | 16:26 |
| ikonia | Kwpolska: welcome back, we'll be with you shortly | 16:27 |
| IdleOne | Traveler8: show us what command you re using to join #ubuntu-offtopic | 16:28 |
| Traveler8 | no i don't see any error messages in chat or on server window, in this java chat.. | 16:28 |
| Traveler8 | "/join #ubuntu-offtopic | 16:28 |
| Traveler8 | is it case sensitive? | 16:29 |
| IdleOne | Well without any errors and no apparent ban set. I don't see why you can't join. | 16:29 |
| IdleOne | Traveler8: no it isn't case sensitive | 16:29 |
| gord | do we have any modes set on #u-o that restrict to registered only? i wouldn't of thought so | 16:29 |
| IdleOne | gord: I don't believe so | 16:30 |
| elky | I wouldn't be so sure there's no ban. | 16:30 |
| ikonia | gord: no, I checked the web chat bans, and it should be fine | 16:30 |
| Traveler8 | it was like this before i got banned... which is probably why i got banned.. i told the ops that i could not join and that #ubuntuhelp and ubuntustudio..were the only channels i could join.. | 16:30 |
| ikonia | oh, so you know you got banned | 16:30 |
| Traveler8 | yea.... | 16:30 |
| ikonia | what nick name where you using | 16:30 |
| Traveler8 | it was rediculous..but yes | 16:31 |
| Traveler8 | uh, ubufool maybe? | 16:31 |
| Traveler8 | i've used a buncha nick specific to my issues | 16:31 |
| Traveler8 | but this was an ip ban...it didnt matter what nick was used.. | 16:32 |
| ikonia | found it | 16:32 |
| elky | He's been banned as Traveler*!*@* before. | 16:32 |
| ikonia | I rememebr you | 16:32 |
| Traveler8 | o.0? cool? | 16:32 |
| Traveler8 | ??? | 16:32 |
| bazhang | grexo? | 16:32 |
| ikonia | you wouldn't stop talking about overclocking and started being rude when people told you to stop | 16:32 |
| Traveler8 | i have never used curse words in my nick... | 16:32 |
| Traveler8 | and i was never rude | 16:33 |
| ikonia | no-one said you used curse words in your nick | 16:33 |
| ikonia | yes you where | 16:33 |
| ikonia | people asked you to stop going on about overclocking, people told you the tools you wanted to use where not the right tools | 16:33 |
| Traveler8 | the op was rude tho...i wil not argue over this again.. | 16:33 |
| ikonia | no he wasn't | 16:33 |
| Traveler8 | pls stop... | 16:33 |
| ikonia | multiple people told you, you got warning kicks, and ended up banned | 16:33 |
| Traveler8 | stop.. | 16:33 |
| elky | If he stops, the ban stays unresolved. | 16:34 |
| ikonia | it's fine, the ban is staying from my point of view | 16:34 |
| ikonia | I remember this guy now | 16:34 |
| IdleOne | Traveler8: the issue here is not wether you believe the ban was justified or not. Please keep in mind we are here to help you. | 16:34 |
| Traveler8 | -.- i wasn't rude, i did not disobey anyones wishes..i wasn't even gievn the chance to ask other questions or reply to people who were helping me... | 16:34 |
| IdleOne | Traveler8: what does -.- mean? | 16:35 |
| Traveler8 | frustraed face... | 16:35 |
| ikonia | you where rude, you wouldn't stop talking about overclocking despite people pointing you tot he right place, and explaining the tools in ubuntu where the wrong tools | 16:35 |
| Traveler8 | frustrated | 16:35 |
| Traveler8 | i understood the tools were not correct...the first time i wa told.. i didnt need the op continueing in circles over something that was already stated.. | 16:36 |
| bazhang | pazsion was the nick | 16:36 |
| Traveler8 | yes | 16:36 |
| ikonia | Traveler8: you did not stop | 16:36 |
| bazhang | and since removed. dont see a ban in -ot though | 16:37 |
| Traveler8 | rly? are we going to do this again? | 16:37 |
| Traveler8 | can we stop this or do we need more discussion? | 16:37 |
| bazhang | you have had the ban removed in #ubuntu Traveler8 | 16:37 |
| ikonia | cpufreqhelp5 | 16:37 |
| ikonia | that was one of the other nicks | 16:38 |
| Traveler8 | yes | 16:38 |
| bazhang | did you wish to resolve why you cannot join #ubuntu-offtopic Traveler8 | 16:38 |
| Traveler8 | yes | 16:38 |
| bazhang | Traveler8, what about a right click on this --> #ubuntu-offtopic and choose join channel | 16:40 |
| bazhang | not sure the command for the java client sorry | 16:41 |
| Traveler8 | a hand comes up, left or right clicking does nothing.. | 16:42 |
| Traveler8 | usually it would join | 16:42 |
| bazhang | and a simple /join #ubuntu-offtopic ? | 16:42 |
| Traveler8 | hasn't worked since before the ban | 16:42 |
| bazhang | odd | 16:42 |
| bazhang | don't see any bans in the list for you | 16:43 |
| Traveler8 | i've only been able to join it once.. | 16:43 |
| Traveler8 | oooh...wth is frigg version? | 16:43 |
| bazhang | utility bot for freenode | 16:44 |
| Traveler8 | now it says idleone version xD | 16:44 |
| IdleOne | Traveler8: your client appears to be beta | 16:44 |
| Traveler8 | but still can't join | 16:44 |
| IdleOne | Traveler8: yes I did a version request on you | 16:44 |
| bazhang | Traveler8, tried a more conventional client? | 16:45 |
| Traveler8 | loading xchat.. | 16:45 |
| bazhang | this one I know | 16:45 |
| bazhang | and you're in | 16:46 |
| Traveler8 | is pp1010 banned here? | 16:46 |
| bazhang | not that I know of | 16:46 |
| Traveler8 | how strange.. | 16:46 |
| IdleOne | you able to join #test-this with that client? | 16:47 |
| IdleOne | who knows | 16:48 |
| IdleOne | anyway you're in now | 16:48 |
| IdleOne | have a good day, follow the rules please | 16:48 |
| Traveler8 | good | 16:48 |
| Traveler8 | xD | 16:48 |
| Traveler8 | i try... | 16:48 |
| Traveler8 | rly i do.. | 16:48 |
| bazhang | yep | 16:48 |
| IdleOne | There is no try. | 16:48 |
| bazhang | just chat in -ot and all is good | 16:49 |
| Traveler8 | well, i'm not gonna argue.. what happened happend however wrong either of us was | 16:49 |
| bazhang | thanks for joining | 16:49 |
| Traveler8 | ty again | 16:49 |
| elky | very trying. | 16:49 |
| bazhang | </yoda? | 16:49 |
| bazhang | whoops > | 16:50 |
| IdleOne | bazhang: yeah, Star Trek quote didn't come to mind :) | 16:50 |
| bazhang | IdleOne, heh | 16:50 |
| elky | I'll start the stopwatch. | 16:52 |
| ikonia | first line in pp1010 asks about the overclocking tools again | 16:54 |
| elky | More specifically, if he's going to get "reamed" | 16:54 |
| elky | "i know it's bad, but plz can i?" | 16:54 |
| IdleOne | If we expect failure no matter how hard a person tries we will find a reason to fail them | 16:55 |
| ikonia | what ?/?? | 16:55 |
| ikonia | are you serious | 16:55 |
| IdleOne | yes. | 16:56 |
| ikonia | no-one expected failure, but his first line in the channel you've just helped him to get in was the exact topic that got him banned | 16:56 |
| IdleOne | I don't see how is overclocking question is offtopic for -ot | 16:56 |
| ikonia | IdleOne: he was asking/pushing how to use ubuntu to overclock his hardware, he got banned for this because everyone explained it was done at a hardware level, | 16:56 |
| IdleOne | I have seen 3 hour long conversations (flame wars) about the best gaming console on -ot | 16:56 |
| ikonia | you saw from this channel when talking about his ban in #ubuntu he undertood and accepted that | 16:56 |
| ikonia | his first line in #ubuntu-offtopic was the same topic | 16:57 |
| ikonia | he quotes a fantasy page that says these are the tools | 16:57 |
| ikonia | this was the exact time wasting conversation that got him banned | 16:57 |
| IdleOne | ikonia: ok so he doesn't understand that it is a hardware issue and not a software issue | 16:57 |
| ikonia | he does understand | 16:57 |
| ikonia | he's trolling | 16:57 |
| gord | him asking these questions in -ot doesn't seem to be bothering anyone and i don't really see any indication of trolling, maybe misunderstanding but thats about it | 16:58 |
| ikonia | hence why he asked about running a game in firefox knowing it's a native game | 16:58 |
| IdleOne | well I am not in there so I am going to keep my opinion to myself about it. | 16:58 |
| bazhang | much worse happens in -ot on a regular basis with zero action taken | 16:58 |
| elky | IdleOne, known troll technique in linux channels; find something (real or not) that linux can't do and insist on persisting to ask how to do it. | 16:58 |
| ikonia | gord: ok - lets see the link he's referencing | 16:58 |
| IdleOne | elky: is it possible that he is just a kid who wants to overclock his machine | 16:59 |
| ikonia | IdleOne: read the logs of #ubuntu when he got banned | 16:59 |
| ikonia | Sary: hi there, how can we help | 16:59 |
| elky | IdleOne, not after this long. He has to be a kid who is never going to be able to be educated in anything ever. | 16:59 |
| Sary | Hello there | 17:00 |
| IdleOne | wow. | 17:00 |
| ikonia | Sary: hi, what's up and how can we help you today ? | 17:00 |
| ikonia | I notice the link he's referencing is still not coming | 17:00 |
| bazhang | he's not bothering #ubuntu and its not offtopic for offtopic | 17:00 |
| Sary | We got the lubotu3 , is it an answering bot or such | 17:01 |
| elky | bazhang, trolling is offtopic for offtopic. baiting is offtopic for offtopic. | 17:01 |
| bazhang | Sary, in #ubuntu-eg ? | 17:01 |
| ikonia | Sary: which channel | 17:01 |
| ikonia | Sary: and yes, it will respond to queries | 17:01 |
| Sary | #ubuntu-sa | 17:01 |
| gord | he's fine in -ot as it is, if it gets to a trolling point then i'll deal with it then, but as of now, its fine | 17:01 |
| Sary | i mean how can we use it , in commands ! | 17:02 |
| ikonia | gord: I'd like to see the link he references for this fantasy question | 17:02 |
| ikonia | genuinly | 17:02 |
| bazhang | elky, most of the users in there would have to be banned then. lots of violent / excessive talk and nothing is done for that | 17:02 |
| Sary | bazhanggggggggggg ;) glad to see you | 17:02 |
| elky | bazhang, there's lots in taht channel that needs to stop which we're actively prevented from stopping. Lets not add /more/ just because we can't make /less/. | 17:02 |
| bazhang | Sary, try /msg lubotu3 factoid | 17:02 |
| * IdleOne goes back to whatever. I think my feelings of -ot have been made clear in the past | 17:02 | |
| bazhang | Sary, me too :) probably best to ask in #ubuntu-irc in future about this though | 17:03 |
| bazhang | elky, agreed. | 17:03 |
| Sary | And ikoniaaaaaaaaaa | 17:03 |
| ikonia | hello | 17:03 |
| Sary | And elkyyyyyyyy | 17:04 |
| Sary | I am glad to see Y'All ;) | 17:04 |
| Sary | Okay , thanks a ton Bazhang | 17:04 |
| bazhang | :) | 17:05 |
| Sary | alright , i'll test that bot | 17:05 |
| Sary | i am out .. peace | 17:05 |
| bazhang | bye | 17:05 |
| elky | And you're talking about a person who is in the bantracker for trying ar em ar eff crap in #u which as I recall was the response for not getting what he demanded. | 17:06 |
| IdleOne | So let's ban him forever and then some because he made a mistake | 17:08 |
| elky | When was that said? | 17:08 |
| elky | Actively and knowingly telling people to destroy their data isn't "a mistake" anyway, but I digress. | 17:09 |
| IdleOne | You know there are people in -ot who should be banned for past behaviors but when they join #u they are very helpful | 17:09 |
| ikonia | he's made multiple mistakes under multiple nicknames to hide the fact | 17:09 |
| ikonia | that's where there was confusion | 17:09 |
| ikonia | so lets be clear about this | 17:09 |
| elky | IdleOne, this isn't a one-off thing. And he's not actually helpful. | 17:10 |
| IdleOne | the majority of users are not helpful | 17:10 |
| IdleOne | they get help and leave | 17:10 |
| elky | Yes, but you're insinuating we should let him be disruptive because he might help. I'm responding directly to that assumption. | 17:11 |
| IdleOne | he messed up, several times, does that mean we can't help guide him a more Ubuntu state | 17:11 |
| ikonia | look at the conversation in -ot now | 17:11 |
| IdleOne | to a* | 17:11 |
| ikonia | he is being helped | 17:11 |
| ikonia | but just refuses | 17:11 |
| elky | IdleOne, that's not actually our role. The 46 people here are not here to coach 1500 people in behaving like civil humans. | 17:12 |
| IdleOne | What is our role? | 17:12 |
| elky | To administer and manage the channels and prevent the channels from disruption and risks. | 17:13 |
| gord | he has done nothing in -ot as of now that would warrant him being banned or removed or any thing like that | 17:13 |
| bazhang | agreed | 17:13 |
| IdleOne | I did not sign up to police #u | 17:13 |
| elky | IdleOne, if you want to be a behavioural coach for 1500 people, then fine. It's not a role for the team. | 17:13 |
| bazhang | if using facts were a requirement in -ot, then.. | 17:14 |
| elky | There's using facts, and then there's asking stuff you know the answer to in the hope the answer will magically change. | 17:15 |
| bazhang | heh true | 17:15 |
| elky | And he's doing the second. Which is baiting. | 17:15 |
| IdleOne | We are supposed to be catalysts, part of that is explaining what the Ubuntu philosophy is and helping the user to follow that philosophy | 17:15 |
| elky | IdleOne, water. horse. drink. | 17:16 |
| elky | If you honestly expect us to fall over ourselves to force the horse to drink, you're sadly mistaken. | 17:16 |
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| IdleOne | the horse will drink when it is thirsty | 17:17 |
| elky | If that's what you want to do, do it. Just don't demand it be part of this job description for the rest of us. | 17:17 |
| IdleOne | our job is to make sure the water is there | 17:17 |
| gord | this analogy has become a leaky screwdriver | 17:17 |
| elky | IdleOne, it /is/ there. | 17:17 |
| bazhang | hehe | 17:17 |
| IdleOne | elky: I am not demanding you do anything. | 17:17 |
| elky | IdleOne, then why are we having this discussion? | 17:18 |
| IdleOne | I am asking you not to be so harsh in your interpretation of our role | 17:18 |
| elky | I'm asking you to not be so liberal in it. | 17:18 |
| IdleOne | I am not a Cop I don't want to be a Cop | 17:18 |
| elky | We can't be effective channel managers if we're trying to do too much. If we get tied down with time sinks, we're effectively offline for the duration of that engagement. | 17:20 |
| ikonia | @mark jungli #ubuntu-offtopic again after multiple kicks and warnings doing the random hilighting | 19:16 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 19:17 |
| AlphaWaves | hello | 21:38 |
| AlphaWaves | im banned from #ubuntu-fr* | 21:38 |
| AlphaWaves | they say that my quit message is spam | 21:38 |
| AlphaWaves | its like to say that one's nick is spam | 21:38 |
| AlphaWaves | 22:39 quit_message = http://www.christcenteredlessons.com/uploads/9/3/0/9/930995/gods_love_v3.pps | 21:39 |
| AlphaWaves | not so agressive | 21:39 |
| AlphaWaves | what do you think? | 21:44 |
| popey | AlphaWaves: this isnt the channel for those kinds of issues, #ubuntu-irc is | 21:50 |
| popey | and for the record _I_ consider that spam and offensive. | 21:51 |
| R3cur51v3 | Does anyone remember why I was banned in #ubuntu? | 22:26 |
| R3cur51v3 | I don't even recall it happening | 22:26 |
| R3cur51v3 | I'd like to argue for my readmittance, but as it stands I don't even know the crime of which I was accused. | 22:27 |
| R3cur51v3 | Actually, I think the IP from which I'm using Freenode is banned. | 22:28 |
| AlphaWaves | popey: well its not offensive | 22:29 |
| AlphaWaves | popey: its a powerpoint document nothing offensive | 22:29 |
| knome | AlphaWaves, i don't completely agree with popey, but i personally think it's the wrong place for it. | 22:30 |
| AlphaWaves | ok | 22:32 |
| popey | AlphaWaves: I'd rather you didn't tell me what I'm allowed to find offensive | 22:33 |
| jpds | I'm with popey. | 22:39 |
| AlphaWaves | imnot | 22:52 |
| ikonia | #ubuntu-irc is the correct place, take it up with the #ubuntu-fr ops | 22:53 |
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