[05:13] <rizzle> whats up
[05:14] <rizzle> trying to get studio working right, driving me nuts
[05:15] <rizzle> hi kbn
[05:21] <doctormo> Hey guys
[05:22] <rizzle> sup
[05:22] <doctormo> I noticed that in the ubuntu studio logo I had, there was a whole pile of unused defs (3600 of them) causing 800KB of bloat of svgs made with it. I want to check and make sure it's not an upstream problem too.
[08:18] <rebirth> how can i tell if i have puredata extended version, and if i don't how do i install it?
[12:40] <ubuverify> how do i verify ubuntustudio is properly installed?
[12:46] <Pablo> ubuverify: why do you think it could be not properly installed?
[12:47] <ubuverify> i don't have an "RT" listed in grub...windows black out...
[12:48] <Pablo> Have you installed ubuntustudio trough the metapackages, from normal ubuntu?
[12:48] <ubuverify> from normal 10.4 using console commands listed on the site..
[12:48] <Pablo> OK
[12:49] <Pablo> please open a terminal
[12:49] <ubuverify> k
[12:50] <Pablo> ls /boot | grep linuz
[12:50] <Pablo> Is there the rt?
[12:50] <Pablo> 2.6.31.10-rt, I think
[12:51] <ubuverify> vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic vmlinuz-2.6.32-23-generic
[12:51] <ubuverify> how the heck did i get that ^^
[12:51] <Pablo> You have two linux versions installed
[12:51] <Pablo> both are generic ones
[12:51] <ubuverify> ew..
[12:52] <ubuverify> that would cause some issues, excessive cpu use...
[12:52] <Pablo> Well, linux-rt is not compulsory to work with audio apps, but it could be convenient
[12:53] <ubuverify> how do i correct this without formatting and re-installing?
[12:53] <Pablo> you don't have to do that
[12:53] <Pablo> wait
[12:53] <ubuverify> i do want a real time kernal.. it was much faster and multi tasking was seamless
[12:54] <Pablo> if you want to try ubuntu with the rt kernel, just install it with
[12:54] <Pablo> sudo apt-get install linux-rt
[12:54] <Pablo> you should see this as a grub option when at boot
[12:55] <ubuverify> why didnt it do that when i tried to install ubuntustudio over 10.4?
[12:55] <Pablo> because, afaik, linux-rt is out of the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage
[12:56] <ubuverify> =/ it wasnt like that when i first tried ubuntustudio...
[12:56] <Pablo> devs will know better the reason why they left it out
[12:56] <Pablo> you are right
[12:56] <ubuverify> oh well..let me try this aptget
[12:56] <Pablo> in lucid is out. In karmic was in, IIRC
[12:57] <Pablo> but that apt-get is ALL you need
[12:57] <Pablo> and probably, once installed, just in case do a
[12:57] <Pablo> sudo update-grub
[12:58] <ubuverify> kk
[12:59] <ubuverify> yup that did it, i should be able to boot the rt module now
[13:00] <ubuverify> lol i think it may be trying to make 8.04 an rt as well??
[13:01] <ubuverify> i'ma reboot and see what happend xD
[13:09] <ubuverify> ty
[13:09] <Pablo> hi
[13:10] <ubuverify> xD
[13:10] <Pablo> :D
[13:10] <ubuverify> yes much better
[13:10] <ubuverify> now i'm trying to figure out why i am having connection issues..
[13:11] <Pablo> wired or wireless?
[13:17] <Traveler6> i reset my conection..just noticed the dns servers weren't updated...
[13:17] <Pablo> cool
[13:18] <ubuverify> let me see if i still have issues
[13:18] <Pablo> connection issues are not my strong point anyway. I can't be of much help here
[13:19] <ubuverify> aw..
[13:19] <ubuverify> =/ well upload is still hanging...
[13:21] <ubuverify> i've been trying to update a pc from 8.04 to 10.4 it seems to be frozen...and is connected to the internet thruough this pc...could that cause issues?
[13:22] <ubuverify> and ty pablo for your help.. i've been googling the crap out of that rt kernal fix..
[13:23] <Pablo> you are welcome!
[20:49] <hugo> hi
[20:49] <hugo> im going to try out ubuntu studio
[20:49] <hugo> :)
[20:50] <hugo> ive been using arch linux for quite some time, but i cannot run VST's in it
[20:50] <hugo> is it possible to run VST's with ubuntu studio ?
[21:06] <ScottL> hugo, you can compile ardour to use vst's but i've heard it is crashy
[21:07] <ScottL> there are other applications that can compile as hosts to vst (faust or something like that) which require wine as well
[21:07] <ScottL> i'm not an expert with vst's though
[21:07] <hugo> hmm
[21:07] <hugo> i mostly use renoise
[21:07] <hugo> but renoise requires the steinberg sdk
[21:07] <hugo> which i cannot install in arch linux :/
[21:08] <holstein> hugo: check out http://www.linuxdsp.co.uk/
[21:08] <ScottL> you might try #opensourcemusicians and ask there, metric tronnes of knowledgeable and experienced people there
[21:08] <holstein> the JACK versions are free
[21:08] <hugo> allright :)
[21:08] <ScottL> speaking of OSM, here is holstein :)
[21:08] <ScottL> cheers mate
[21:08] <holstein> personally i dont miss any of my old favorite VST's
[21:08] <holstein> but i dont need instruments
[21:08] <holstein> just effects
[21:08] <holstein> ScottL: :)
[21:08] <hugo> hmm
[21:09] <hugo> yes, i could also do that
[21:09] <hugo> record everything i need
[21:09] <holstein> http://wootangent.net/category/music/tutorials/
[21:09] <holstein> if your into MIDI more
[21:09] <holstein> these are some nice tutorials done by [lsd] over at #opensourcemuscians
[21:10] <ScottL> hugo, just so you know, holstein is one of the guys i thought could help you on #opensourcemusicians
[21:10] <hugo> :D
[21:11] <ScottL> ace, that one
[21:11]  * holstein stands on the shoulders of giants
[21:11] <ScottL> hugo, i've also heard about running reaper under wine to use VST's
[21:11] <hugo> hmm
[21:11] <hugo> reaper i dont know
[21:12] <hugo> ok, so ill stand on the shoulders of holstein and refrain myself from installing windows
[21:12] <holstein> from what i read, it really depends on the VST's
[21:12] <holstein> and what they need
[21:12] <holstein> i know it sucks learning new softwareb
[21:12] <holstein> but i would suggest looking for FOSS replacements
[21:13] <hugo> hmm
[21:13] <hugo> what do you recomend to record ?
[21:13] <holstein> audio?
[21:13] <hugo> i have a bad microphone and a beringer table
[21:13] <hugo> software
[21:13] <hugo> im using audacity
[21:14] <holstein> yeah, audio or MIDI sequencing?
[21:14] <hugo> audio
[21:14] <holstein> audio
[21:14] <hugo> sorry
[21:14] <holstein> ardour is the deal
[21:14] <hugo> ah, allright
[21:14] <holstein> i call audacity a 'gateway drug' though
[21:14] <hugo> :D
[21:14] <hugo> gateway drug ?
[21:14] <holstein> if its working for you
[21:14] <holstein> use it
[21:14] <holstein> when you need more
[21:14] <holstein> then you can move on to ardour
[21:15] <holstein> hugo: have you checked out JACK?
[21:15] <hugo> yes, but i dont understand it much
[21:15] <holstein> http://jackaudio.org/
[21:15] <holstein> OK
[21:15] <holstein> hugo: thats where i would suggest starting
[21:15] <holstein> getting JACK up and running
[21:16] <hugo> allright
[21:16] <ScottL> traverso is also in the repositories
[21:16] <ScottL> i think of traverso as a bridge between audacity and ardour (alhtough closer to audacity)
[21:16] <hugo> maybe i dont have to switch to ubuntustudio and keep arch installed if i manage to install it right
[21:16] <holstein> ScottL: true
[21:16] <holstein> more features, but not overkill on a newb
[21:17] <holstein> ardour is quite amazing
[21:17] <holstein> but has a learning curve for sure
[21:17]  * holstein checked out the renoise demo
[21:17] <holstein> that looks nice too
[21:18] <hugo> allright :)
[21:18] <holstein> you should be able to get JACK running with whatever distro
[21:18] <holstein> then things will get easier
[21:20] <Pablo> no me entra tu archivo
[21:20]  * holstein is running out he door now
[21:20] <Pablo> Oops! sorry
[21:20] <holstein> hugo: i'll help you get JACK running sometime though
[21:20] <hugo> :)
[21:20] <hugo> im reading some docs on the web
[21:21] <hugo> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pro_Audio
[21:21] <hugo> these
[21:22] <holstein> yeah
[21:22] <holstein> you can try just starting JACK
[21:22] <holstein> if your in ubuntu
[21:22] <holstein> hugo: are you still in arch?
[21:22] <hugo> yes
[21:22] <hugo> im about to download ubuntustudio
[21:22] <holstein> sure
[21:22] <holstein> either way, you need to install jackd
[21:22] <holstein> and its dependancies
[21:23] <holstein> its easier in ubuntu or ubuntustudio
[21:23] <holstein> i find
[21:23] <holstein> but stuzz could help you in arch
[21:24] <hugo> great :)
[21:24] <holstein> glancing over that guide
[21:24] <holstein> it should do the trick
[21:25] <holstein> anyways
[21:25]  * holstein BBL
[21:25] <hugo> :) thanks