[00:01] do we use glibc or eglibc while building [00:03] shadeslayer: eglibc is for embbed systems I belive [00:03] * shadeslayer is getting pounded on debian mentors [01:02] i cant seem to be able to install a sid pbuilder on kubuntu :S [01:03] any ideas? [01:18] shadeslayer: keyring error? [01:18] yep [01:19] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pbuilder/+bug/599394/comments/6 [01:19] Launchpad bug 599394 in pbuilder (Ubuntu) "Release signed by unknown key (key id 40976EAF437D05B5)" [Medium,Fix released] [01:20] how is this fixed then? [01:20] well, it failed to create ubuntu chroots [01:20] :S [01:20] yeah.. so kill off making debian chroots [01:20] haven't found more yet.. [01:21] great.. [01:21] ok, the pbuilderrc from the package says: [01:21] # Set the debootstrap variant to 'buildd' type. [01:21] DEBOOTSTRAPOPTS=( [01:21] '--variant=buildd' [01:21] '--keyring' '/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg' [01:21] ) [01:22] should be possible to override [01:22] hmm [01:24] yep, works :D [01:24] w00t ... thanks yofel :D [01:24] will have to set it back tho :P [01:24] shadeslayer: in ~/.pbuilderrc http://paste.ubuntu.com/465241/ [01:24] (line 60ff) [01:24] btw is it necessary to have .install files? [01:25] I don't know too much about packaging, but I think you don't need them if you only create one binary package [01:27] ill poke this in a few hours then [01:27] ciao [01:27] btw [01:27] for my change make sure to have 'debian-archive-keyring' installed [02:27] question on the livecd, how does it know to display the netbook view instead of a normal view? or is netbook default now? [02:34] jjesse: afaik IF SCREEN HIGHT < 700 THEN netbook ELSE desktop [02:35] thats pretty cool [02:35] im impressed [06:56] is there a ppa for KOffice 2.2? [07:17] DarkwingDuck: 2.2.1 is in Maverick and in backports for Lucid [07:23] yeah, realized I forgot to check that little box lol [07:23] That is the signal for me to sleep [08:44] \o/ [08:48] * maxwellian o/\o apachelogger [08:58] * nigelb waves to apachelogger [09:00] [kubuntu-default-settings] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100718080030-kly1xpc4g15ouumd * (4 files in 4 dirs) (log message trimmed) [09:00] Copy branding.svgz from default plasma theme to oxygen theme too. Plasma has a [09:00] default fallback of Theme > Oxygen > Air, rendering our branding unapplied [09:09] [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100718080924-jhrgkkfrgaextn2g * src/share/ (ContactSelector.cpp ShareDialog.cpp) build++ [10:04] morning === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:53] is this normal? [11:53] jussi@Galaxy:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig [11:53] [sudo] password for jussi: [11:53] WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file. [11:53] sh: pkg-config: not found [11:53] New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' [11:56] jussi: yeah, since the new x server [11:59] Hobbsee: ahh [11:59] x is being evil for me at the moment [11:59] jussi: yep [12:00] it cant find a xorg.conf since there is none [12:00] and has to make a new one :D [12:00] shadeslayer: yeah, i was questioning the pkg-config part [12:01] ah [12:01] but it comes up with problems every boot - have to reconfig x everytime [12:02] I gett the lovely ubuntu has issues dialog [12:02] oh, it doesn't say Kubuntu? [12:03] heh [12:04] hmm.. do i know a Jonathan Aquilina [12:04] Mamarok: no [12:05] shadeslayer: that's eagles0513875 [12:05] shadeslayer: not sure you want to know him [12:06] ohhh [12:06] why? :P [12:06] oh well, he is certainly a nice guy in RL, but he is a total moron pretending to learn [12:06] my blackberry storm got killed today :P [12:06] ah.. [12:06] and never ever learned something in two yearsa [12:06] -a [12:07] hopeless [12:07] * shadeslayer has loads of friend requests.. doesnt know half the people [12:08] btw i just noticed something.. i dont see a single netsplit on OFTC ... and ive been there for the past 2-3 weeks [12:09] and freenode has had some major ones [12:23] shadeslayer: how many servers does oftc have? and how many users? (and nasty people who want to do nasty things to it) [12:24] hehe.. dunno :P === ubuntu is now known as HobbseeLiveCD [12:28] nice work, guys :) [12:30] HobbseeLiveCD: maverick? [12:31] nah, karmic [12:31] but, kubuntu [12:31] karmic! your using karmic! \o/ [12:31] * shadeslayer skreams out lucid [12:31] lucid and wine and WoW are not friendly [12:31] ah :P [12:31] there was a new release of wine tho [12:31] after some 5 years or something [12:31] true. been using them, and they can be even more unfriendly [12:46] Riddell: i think we need a MIR for libdvdread-dev [12:46] debian introduced it as a build dep [12:46] see http://pastebin.com/pzGHJMH3 [12:47] hmm.. changelog says that we do not want to add that build dep [14:07] apachelogger: around?? [14:07] can you add me as a contributor to https://www.ohloh.net/p/kubuntu ^_^ [14:09] any idea what is happening with the history function of krunner? [14:10] mfraz74: works for me [14:10] shadeslayer: so that if you use the up arrow to select a previous entry and then hit enter, it works? [14:10] uh... [14:10] meh [14:11] mfraz74: nope [14:11] i thought it would.. but it just shows what i typed last [14:11] that's how it used to work [14:11] :( [14:11] mfraz74: bugs.kde.org [14:11] im off for a few hours then... cya :) [14:12] shadeslayer: bye [14:21] \o [15:29] shadeslayer: there already is a bug report AFAIK [15:29] Mamarok: in context of..... [15:32] the history in krunner [15:32] ohhh [15:35] hmm [15:35] KDE is really horrible sometimes [15:35] http://mcv.jogger.pl/2010/07/17/wtf-kde4/ [15:35] rough translation [15:35] Dolphin is 300 times slower that rm removoing 5000 small files [15:36] with Shift-Delete [15:36] urgh [15:36] that dude miscalculated [15:36] 30 times slower with shift-delete [15:36] and 120 times slower when moving to trash [15:37] I can understand it being slower when moving to trash because it is adding some metadata, right? [17:10] shadeslayer: hmm, no idea if libdvdread would pass a MIR [17:10] yeah we manually removed the dep [17:11] silly me didn't put in a reason why but whatever it was I doubt it's changed [17:11] so just keep it removed [17:26] Riddell: btw i filed a bug to sync qoauth,it got noticed and fixed,but i still dont see it in the archives [17:27] bug 606751 [17:27] Launchpad bug 606751 in Ubuntu "Sync qoauth 1.0-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606751 [17:54] shadeslayer: new packages need to get accepted by an archive admin [18:18] GRRRRR [18:18] stupid windows broke my dhcp [18:18] dunno how is that possible [18:29] uff [18:29] fixed networkmanager [18:29] shadeslayer: ping [18:33] apachelogger: ping [18:36] apachelogger: well, nvm just take a look if you can http://pastebin.com/YTFtj0XH [18:37] rules -> http://pastebin.com/9gKk1kHG [19:28] Quintasan: pong [19:28] only here for a wee bit [20:01] shadeslayer: you had a digikam upload? [20:01] Riddell: yeah its in bzr [20:01] youll need to change the unreleased part to maverick [20:01] just thought you should know ^^ [20:04] shadeslayer: question is why isn't desktop_extragear-graphics_digikam.pot in the package? [20:04] because it was removed by upstream [20:04] i told apachelogger about it [20:05] upstream never included it [20:05] uh.. i asked #digikam and they said they removed it a few months ago [20:06] ( not right now,but a few days earlier ) [20:07] it should be generated by /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/debhelper/kubuntu-debhelper-langpack-generate.sh [20:08] but isnt [20:09] i think apachelogger changed the magic ... :P [20:09] no, it's a mystery, wonder if I can find a power outlet so I have battery enough to investigate [20:13] Riddell: also bug 606751 :( [20:13] Launchpad bug 606751 in Ubuntu "Sync qoauth 1.0-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606751 [20:13] its not syncd yet.. any idea why [20:15] shadeslayer: what problem does your digikam change solve? the latest build log has it being copied fine [20:15] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/44712688/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.digikam_2%3A1.2.0-0ubuntu2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz [20:15] "cp po/desktop_extragear-graphics_digikam.pot po/desktop_extragear-graphics_digikamimageplugins.pot [20:15] shadeslayer: is there a PPA build that failed? [20:16] Riddell: archive rebuild failed [20:16] Riddell: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/ubuntu-nbs/32/digikam_2:1.3.0-0ubuntu1_lubuntu32.buildlog [20:17] huge build log -.- [20:18] and fails at the very end [20:18] Riddell: cp: cannot stat `po/desktop_extragear-graphics_digikam.pot': No such file or directory [20:22] hmm, well must be some reason why that rebuild failed the '^Purpose: PRIMARY' /CurrentlyBuilding test that apachelogger added [20:23] so your fix is valid but no point uploading for its own sake since the build in the main buildds won't fail that [20:24] 4 euro for an apple juice! this hotel is not nice, I could go canoeing for a day on that kind of money here (and did) [20:25] hehe :P [20:25] Riddell: if you guys would do a UDS in india,itll be pretty cheap [20:25] apple juice ( a whole carton ) is about 2 euros [20:26] lesser if you buy in bulk ^_^ [20:26] Prague in general is fine, it's just this hotel which is a rip off [20:26] :D [20:27] and I'm so used to the luxury of all the nearby civilised counties using one currency I haven't had the practice to do mental currency exchange recently [20:27] right, qoauth, what's that? [20:27] Riddell: btw general question,if i keep doing what im doing now,and apply for UDS in november,what are my chances? :P [20:27] ohh qoauth is the new authentication mechanism for twitter clients and such [20:28] twitter and identi.ca give out tokens to apps [20:28] much like LP [20:28] so instead of sending your password and username you get a token [20:29] Riddell: The OAuth protocol enables websites or applications (Consumers) to access Protected Resources from a web service (Service Provider) via an API, without requiring Users to disclose their Service Provider credentials to the Consumers. [20:29] from http://wiki.github.com/ayoy/qoauth/ [20:30] what do we need it for? [20:30] licence file is wrong, it's LGPL 3 while code is LGPL 2.1 [20:30] Riddell: choqok [20:31] well.. thats debian's fault for not looking then :P [20:31] mine too.. partly [20:31] I'll approve it since 2.1 can be upgraded and debian already let it in but that seems not to be ideal [20:31] could you e-mail upstream and ask if he can make his mind up on that [20:32] added to TODO [20:33] will ask him to fix tommorow :) [20:34] shadeslayer: I'd say your chances of UDS would be very good, although it's a bit of a random draw who goes [20:34] shadeslayer: does qoauth need a MIR then? [20:35] choqok is in main? [20:35] yes it is [20:35] never realised it [20:35] yes then :P [20:35] only on the DVD [20:36] added in TODO as well then :D [20:36] but.. we need it only if choqok makes a release [20:36] ill ask mtux about it [20:37] Riddell: thanks for the advice :D [20:37] i asked because fortunately im free from exams in Novemember ... [20:37] *november [20:38] probably a good idea ot have the MIR for the time we need it [20:38] yeah [20:38] neversfelde: koffice uploaded thanks [20:47] Riddell: fine [20:47] shadeslayer: so I guess I can stop workingon qoauth and choqok? [20:48] neversfelde: :P [20:48] neversfelde: its your wish :D [20:48] shadeslayer: ? [20:48] you mean for now or for long term? [20:49] shadeslayer: for now [20:49] what were you working on? [20:49] as in .. packaging upstream? [20:49] shadeslayer: qoauth and choqok [20:50] this just went into a loop :P [20:50] lemme think what i want to ask :D [20:51] mhh [20:51] ok so you were working on qoauth and choqok,but what was the exact work? syncing/merging the packages? [20:52] neversfelde: ^^ [20:53] shadeslayer: I wanted to sync qoauth and probably merge choqok [20:53] shadeslayer: and as far as I remember we already talked about it yesterday or the day before? [20:53] well.. i filed a sync bug for qoauth already :D [20:53] neversfelde: nope .. dont think so [20:54] i accidently came across qoauth in debian [20:54] was actually searching for some other stuff [20:55] ohh [20:55] yes yes.. [20:55] neversfelde is someone working on a new choqok package for Maverick? [20:55] shadeslayer: ok, no expicit about qoauth, but I asked, if someone is working on choqok. Probably I should have been more precise [20:56] neversfelde: also add your self to https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html [20:56] :P [20:56] theres a text field on the right [20:56] ( toally invisible i know ) [20:56] shadeslayer: I am not sure, if we should sync choqok or better merge atm [20:56] add your name infront of choqok :D [20:56] so if you did qoauth, do choqok as well [20:57] neversfelde: ok,can you take over libdbusmenu-qt merge then? [20:57] i havent poked it [20:57] konversation and k3b are being worked upon [20:58] no at the moment [20:58] ok :) [20:58] ill have a look at it in the end then [20:58] ok gtg and sleep now [20:58] cya [20:58] night shadeslayer [21:00] debfx: what's the status of the qtwebkit merge? [21:00] I wonder where lex79 is, he hasn't been around for a while [21:06] ScottK: I'm also worried about rekonq stability, I had expected to wait until 0.5 release before looking into it and now I want to wait until we get the qtwebkit merge and transition done before sensibly looking into it, but it seems we're not alone in having issues http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/rekonq/2010-July/001528.html [21:15] Riddell: I'm not saying we should dump it now, but we definitely need to keep an eye on it and consider what's plan B. [21:15] yes indeed [21:16] rekonq was not very usable the last few weeks and it missed a lot of testing time because of that [21:17] for sure [21:22] how is Konqueror working with webkit, and can we ship 10.10 with old khtml and webkit as a plan B [21:25] with old khtml we can, disappointing but easily doable [21:25] webkit I don't know, not tried [21:26] I suspect the settings dialogue wouldn't match half the stuff it does, but I could be wrong [21:27] yes disappointing, but probably the best way to deal with it, we could offer the option to switch to webkit for users, who are not satisfied with khtml [21:28] Riddell: hmm, xine's audio backend is already pulse-aware. Are you saying that you have to manually configure something to use your usb headphones? It should be trivial, meaning that inserting/plugging your usb headphones should automatically migrate the current sink to your usb audio device. [21:33] crimsun_: I think when I first got USB headphones I had to tell phonon to make them a higher priority than the internal sound card [21:33] now phonon works fine with them, but kaffine still outputs to the internal speakers [21:35] Riddell: that reads as if your phonon profiles are configured to use alsa and not pulse [21:38] I wonder if (also) xine is (mis)configured to use alsa and not pulse? [21:40] phonon is certainly using pulse, when I killall pulesaudio dragon stops audio [21:41] ok, can you install pavucontrol and see which sink dragon is configured to use? [21:42] i.e., your symptom now looks to be a pulseaudio issue [21:42] namely, the default sink isn't (re)set for all apps once a usb audio device is inserted [21:43] there are pros and cons for doing so [21:44] pavucontrol is installing very slowly [21:48] crimsun_: dragon audio stream on clear chat USB Headset [21:49] kaffeine audio stream on Internal Audio Analog Stereo [21:49] Quintasan: maybe you need to use those seperate .debug files after all [21:50] Quintasan: how does the kubuntu package do it? [21:51] kubotu: google there's no such month as rocktober [21:51] Results for there's no such month as rocktober: 1. The life of Mb: "There is no such month as Rocktober": http://the-life-of-mb.blogspot.com/2008/10/there-is-no-such-month-as-rocktober.html | 2. Double, Double, Boy in Trouble - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double,_Double,_Boy_in_Trouble [21:51] 3. The Simpsons Archive: Blackboard Openings: http://www.snpp.com/guides/chalkboard.openings.html [21:52] Nightrose: ^ ;) [21:53] crimsun_: but surely the default sink should change for newly started apps? [21:54] Riddell: right, that's missing code right now [21:55] fooey [21:55] it's actually being discussed on the pulse list currently [21:56] there is existing code to do similarly, but it needs to be updated for current HEAD [21:59] still, it's one more reason to use phonon for now [21:59] absolutely [22:22] apachelogger: it seems to me that it is done via override_dh_strip [22:23] Riddell: well, no route to host on that ddns :( [22:23] Riddell: I think that app can be set to auto update over a period [23:05] so python 2.7 will really be on maverick? [23:06] eMyller: It won't be default. [23:06] meh :\ [23:06] It's not exactly clear how far we'll get. The rest rebuild with 2.7 enabled did not go well. [23:07] did someone get any 'incompatibility rate' related to the current packages? [23:08] I'm not sure. I'd ask barry on #ubuntu-devel. [23:08] ty [23:08] * ScottK got emailed for every build failure and it seemed like a lot to me. [23:10] well, 2.7 just came up; maybe we get enough package updates until october.