[00:00] WHats the best way to install VB? CLI or software center? === geowany_ is now known as geowany`away [00:24] alguem fala portugues: [00:29] !pt | pebinha [00:29] pebinha: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado. === servidor is now known as servidor_ === jay is now known as Guest96557 [01:50] @gaerrtyQ [02:03] Cabuntu?n someone tell me what the menu file is for Grub and where it is located in Ku [02:04] That was supposed to be what is the menu file for grub and where is it located === root is now known as Guest66889 [02:37] what font does the "non-emulated"/"non-graphical" terminal use? (the one you get when pressing ctrl-alt+F1 [03:16] kubuntu netbook is cool [03:30] where can i read about future updates of kubuntu? === edward is now known as thelionroars1337 === geowany_ is now known as geowany`away [03:54] I tried to sync the songs to my ipod using gtkpod, but its showing as iTunesDB currupted. any idea? [03:59] can anybody help me on this ipod issue? [04:03] Does ANYONE know how to get an ATI HD 3650 working with Kubuntu WITHOUT one issue after another after another after another? [04:04] Right now I don't have a system that can remember its screen resolution when you reboot... can't do desktop compositing... can only play games, and if I go back to the radeon or radeonhd drivers, I will lose that [04:05] The proprietary fglrx driver seems to be the only one that you can play a 3d game with without a crash that will require a hard reset [04:05] But if I use that driver, I lose everything else. [04:05] This is just insane. [04:06] There's no way I could recommend ATI to any Linux user. [04:22] I have the proprietary fglrx driver installed [04:23] I have added ppa:info-g-com/xserver-xorg-1.7.6-gc which aparrently fixes a issue in xorg-server-core [04:26] I have changed my GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= from "quiet splash" to "quiet splash pci=use_crs" because aparrently the card fails to get properly allocated to the kernel... after doing this I no longer have to change my screen resolution every time after rebooting... but as usual, yet another problem is created - System Settings, KInfoCentre and the Catalyst control center all crash when you try to use them now. [04:26] And I still have no desktop compositing [04:27] And now games wont start either... [04:29] It seems that I just can't have a fully functioning system with an ATI graphics card [04:29] This is just as disappointing as the last time I was stupid enough to bother with ATI === geowany`away is now known as geowany_ [04:34] Eruaran: i thought ati usually had the best linux support now === avihay_ is now known as avihay [04:35] jschall: you've got to be joking [04:38] If I change "quiet splash pci=use_crs" back to just "quiet splash" I will be able to use System Settings etc again but my resolution will revert to 640x480 when I reboot, and I still wont have compositing. [04:39] When I Google for solutions I notice this goes back YEARS [04:39] not fixed [04:46] So... Now I've put my xorg.conf with the driver as "fglrx" back into /etc/X11 and System Settings, KinfoCenter and the Catalyst Control Center are working again [04:46] And now I'm back to having to manually change my screen resolution every time I reboot again [04:46] No desktop compositing [04:47] Aparrently the kernel module for my card is "unknown" === geowany_ is now known as geowany`away === root is now known as Guest50249 === nick_ is now known as Guest76561 === heath is now known as ybit2 [06:12] hello === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [06:15] 中uoren [06:15] 有没有人 [06:16] hey whats up? [06:17] jacop: do you have a question? [06:17] well kinda [06:17] 有人吗？ [06:18] are there any chinese people? [06:18] !ch | kongchen [06:18] kongchen: Das Schweizer Team finden sie unter #ubuntu-ch, deutschsprachigen Support bekommen sie aber in #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de. Aus regionalen Gründen ist im Schweizer Channel nur Englisch erlaubt. Geben sie einfach /join #ubuntu-at ein! Danke für ihr Verständnis. [06:18] whoops [06:18] are there any japanese people? [06:18] !cn | kongchen [06:18] kongchen: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk [06:18] Thank you, jschall [06:20] jacop: what was your question? [06:20] hi all [06:20] Hello peteh32 [06:20] hi draik [06:21] i have via chrome9 hc video card but i couldnt download the driver software [06:21] so i want to know if u can guid me through [06:23] http://linux.via.com.tw/support/beginDownload.action?eleid=342&fid=643 see if that works for you [06:24] ok ill check that out [06:25] i got this msg in the archive manger [06:25] gzip: stdin: not in gzip format [06:25] tar: Child returned status 1 [06:25] tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors [06:25] jacop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:26] jacop: What is the extension? [06:26] *.gz - use gunzip [06:26] *.tar.gz - use tar zxvf [06:27] its *.tgz [06:27] Try the tar command I gave you [06:28] which one [06:28] im not seeing any [06:29] ... [06:29] 我会打中文 [06:29] 你们会不会？ [06:29] 哇哈哈哈哈哈哈 [06:30] kongchen: I don't think anyone here will be able to read/respond to that. [06:30] jacop: tar zxvf archive.tgz [06:32] didnt work [06:34] What is the output? [06:35] tar: 5.74.33.86a-u904-50937.tgz: Cannot open: No such file or directory [06:35] tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [06:35] tar: Child returned status 2 [06:35] tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors [06:35] jacop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:35] here i could open the file using ark [06:36] but i dont know what to do after that [06:36] Extract [06:37] should i extract somewhere [06:37] ;) [06:37] hhh [06:38] i extract it now what? [06:38] No clue. What do you want to do next? [06:38] its a driver software [06:39] i would like to download it [06:39] Well, you downloaded and extracted the archive. What's next on the to-do list? [06:39] You just go with that. [06:39] Did you see the instructions jschall gave you? [06:40] draik: i didn't give him any instructions apart from the link [06:40] jacop: there should be a .deb in the archive [06:40] ok [06:40] Whoops. Sorry. I meant to reference the instructions from the link, not just 'instructions' [06:41] jacop: so extract the archive (with ark or tar) and run dpkg -i on the deb [06:41] ok [06:41] I'm off to "enjoy" sleeping in a bed over 100F degrees. [06:41] hhhh [06:41] ok thanx dude [06:45] sorry how can i run the dpkg on the deb [06:45] ?? [06:48] i think i downloaded it [06:48] ill reboot the system and check out [06:52] I've been having a problem with knetworkmanager on Kubuntu Netbook Remix: Every time I connect to an unsecured wireless network, it tries making a new entry, using the info from the last unsecured network I used, then the connection fails. How can I fix this? [06:54] hey [06:54] it didnt work [06:55] hey [06:55] anyone here? [06:57] yup [06:57] whts up? [06:58] nuthin [06:59] much [06:59] how r u doin [06:59] ? [06:59] jacop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [07:00] kind of frustrated. I'm trying to install ubuntu on my macbook 2,1 booting from a thumbdrive but i keep getting this kernel error [07:00] dude im new to linux too [07:01] im tryin to download the software for my vga card [07:01] oh cool [07:01] i'm on a mac [07:01] so no graphics cards here [07:01] just lack of support for everything [07:01] hhh [07:02] i got sick of my vga card [07:02] lol [07:03] even macs have graphics cards. proprietary ones. [07:03] well yea [07:03] but you have to run everything on low [07:03] thats sucks [07:03] i guess [07:03] i'm a 360 gamer when i need my fix === 50UAAD7PF is now known as serggt1 [07:03] by low, you mean 800 x 600? [07:04] yep [07:04] settings low [07:04] every REAL game with a low framerate [07:04] emulating n64 games have some issues to [07:05] its good u can run games [07:05] i cant run anything in here [07:05] I did a dpkg -i packagename.deb and it's making me install dependencies, one-by-one.. how can I make that automatic? [07:05] i've had that problem with an sis video card on pos averatec laptop. [07:05] idk [07:05] when i load my EFI bootloader via usb on my mac it says i need to load a kernel [07:05] what does tht mean [07:07] idk [07:07] did u check online [07:07] yes [07:07] posted on forums [07:07] i rly need this portable ubuntu usb for school [07:08] chieck this link [07:08] http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-load-a-kernel-module-automatically-at-boot-time/ [07:10] alright [07:10] the comment may help [07:13] so it's just a command? [07:13] well [07:13] as it written in the site yes [07:13] but im not very sure [07:13] hopefully this works [07:14] otherwise i'll go to bed and wait for those forum replies [07:14] just try it [07:14] because i made a live cd [07:14] and i'm on the try or install haha [07:14] hhh [07:14] gotta write it down first [07:15] yup i [07:17] alright [07:17] wish me luck [07:17] if it works ill see u soon! [07:18] hhh [07:18] good luck [07:35] ack [07:35] with no success :( [07:38] did it work [07:39] no [07:39] it said command not found [07:42] can someone help me? [07:43] what was the issue ubottu [07:43] err ubuntu [07:43] I made a bootable usb flash drive [07:43] on my macbook [07:43] running ubuntu 9.1 [07:44] the problem is when i launch the EFI boot loader it says i need to load the kernel [07:44] have you tried installing from a livecd with external optical drive. [07:44] i don't have an external optical drive [07:44] and i can't install it on this hard drive [07:46] guys i need some help with via drivers [07:46] if anybody can help [07:46] I thought macs had a bios compatability layer ubuntu [07:49] they do [07:49] and i can get it to boot off the usb [07:49] but when it asks me to select the ubuntu MBP partition [07:49] it says i need to load the kernal === simi is now known as simion314 [07:50] ubuntu: so there is nothing called syslinux on the usb? [07:51] let me check [07:53] yes there is [07:54] and a file called autorun.cfg or similar? [07:56] nope [07:56] how did you build the bootable usb, with unetbootin? [07:57] no [07:57] i used a guide [07:57] !unetbootin [07:57] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [07:57] no [07:57] i partitioned it using Gparted [07:57] and installed using a live cd [07:58] For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [07:59] it's different for mac [07:59] non apple computers can do this in 5 minnutes [07:59] maybe ask in ##mac [07:59] ? [08:28] anyone else getting an akonadi crash whenever trying to start kmail with beta ppa? [08:40] morning [08:41] is it only me or has anyone else had problems with 9.10 in that the mouse suddenly stops working properly? [08:41] it moves, but clicking works only for some actions [08:42] it always means a restart of the desktop [08:42] interestingly, as soon as i've logged out (no x restart) it works again, so it feels like the kde desktop somehow does somethign interesting [08:43] i see that same problem on two totally different machines [08:43] sometimes happens 5 times per day, sometimes once [08:43] it's quite annoying [08:44] one other guy had reported a bug for it months ago, but the "responsible" person closed it as "nah, can't be a problem, you're doing it wrong" [08:45] I heard bug? [08:47] sounds like a legit bug. [08:51] ah, found the bug and others seem to have it too [08:51] but that wasn't the one that was closed somewhat immediately [08:52] of course, launchpad seems broken at the moment [08:52] "This bug report will be marked for expiration in 32 days if no further activity occurs." [08:53] sounds like a good way to get rid of bugs [08:53] saving a bug comment should not take five minutes, right? === ubuntu is now known as Roverto [09:01] hey' [09:01] ##mac === tyrell is now known as zer0 [09:37] yo yo yo === zer0 is now known as Guest42686 [09:37] hey === Misterio is now known as Misterio_ === Misterio_ is now known as Misterio [10:39] hi === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:01] kkkk [11:03] kde [11:06] ? [11:06] * Peace- in kde 4.5 [11:06] Peace-: rc? [11:14] yea [11:31] hi .. Whenver i start compiz on kubuntu the window manager gets crashed .. The error I get is ..http://pastebin.com/6G8RhvKz .. any ideas ? [11:41] karthik_: compiz? [11:41] who cares of compiz if you have kwin effetcs [11:43] Peace-: I am very much used to compiz .. I ve never tried out kwin effects .. are they good ? [11:43] karthik_: for me there is only kwin [11:43] effects [11:43] compiz it's too much heavy [11:44] *FOR ME* [11:44] they're good & not as slow as compiz. [11:44] Peace-: elcaset: okay .. I ll give a try .. [11:53] !netsplit === ubuntu is now known as HobbseeLiveCD [12:40] !anyone I'm running 10.04 , I had the startup/shutdown screens when i first installed but now they don't display i just get text... i Have restored /etc/default/grub file to the original so i know it's not to do with that, i have also tried "sudo update-alternatives --auto default.plymouth" and "sudo echo "FRAMEBUFFER=y" > /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash && sudo update-initramfs -u" [12:40] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:42] !patience | liam__ [12:42] liam__: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. [12:48] hello [12:48] how can i get working internet from gprs (from my gsm) over bluetooth === simi is now known as simion314 [13:06] Hi, is here someone who can tell me how to use Nepomuk and Strigi in any effectve way? [13:07] Once I could search my system with Strigi. But not anymore. [13:08] And as it really sucks my CPU I wonder wether I can just stop those services. [13:08] Right now I don't have an idea what it's good for. [13:12] Hi [13:12] im trying to transfer a video from my JVC camera via firewire [13:12] hi sheytan [13:12] what i need to do? [13:12] when i plug it in, nothings happen [13:13] plug it out [13:13] then execute the command "tail -f /var/log/messages" [13:13] then plug it in [13:13] and see what happens [13:14] derdon Jul 18 14:02:19 Kubuntu kernel: [13521.956127] ieee1394: raw1394: /dev/raw1394 device initialized [13:15] sheytan: is this the only message which appeared after plugging in the camera? [13:15] yes [13:17] is there any app i should use to tranfser the video? [13:25] i got it :D [13:25] very easy :D [13:25] just changed the premissions for camera device, then kdenlive sees it :D === aimar is now known as TuxAngel [13:34] helloo [13:35] is there any auto update drivers or something like that? [13:45] anybody here === christian is now known as Guest12217 [13:48] hi [14:00] I have two laptops with Kubuntu running. They're both connected to the same wireless network, and it works. Now, I want to share a folder on computer 1 and then download its content on computer 2. How do I do that the easiest way? [14:01] use an external hard drive or usb thumb drive. [14:03] So network sharing isn't a solution? I'd like to try that. [14:17] im having a problem with my sound card and graphic card [14:18] hellooo [14:18] anyone here [14:19] how do I start the GUI version upgrade tool manually ... I lost the upgrade notification icon after accidentally hitting a wrong button in the upgrade confirm dialogue [14:19] heyson-alice: I use sshfs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS but there is also samba https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html but it's less flexible and more complicated to set up [14:20] tsimpson: Thanks! :) [14:20] VGA via chrome9 hc [14:20] driver [14:20] heinkel_111: you should be able to start it from System Settings -> Add and Remove Software -> Software Updates [14:21] or run "update-notifier-kde -u" manually [14:22] the first one left me with basically an empty window... maybe something is locking the apt system [14:22] tsimpson: People like you are really wonderful! [14:23] heinkel_111: what are you upgrading from and to? [14:23] heinkel_111: have you tried to reboot your system? [14:24] mfraz74: i started at kubuntu 9.04 yesterday, now I am on 9.10 and the plan is to continue to 10.04 in 5 minutes [14:24] martin_: reboot should be unecessary for this, it is a linux system after all [14:25] heinkel_111: yeah, but that is easier than unlocking apt manually, in most cases [14:25] helo [14:26] martin_: you may be right, it is a long time since I had to [14:26] so I might have forgotten that [14:29] martin_: actually apt-get update and upgrade worked fine so I think basically the empty window was nothing left to update :-) [14:29] I am kind of new to the GUI version upgrade, until now I have done the text based one [14:30] but my dvd writer seems corrupted so now I upgrade across the net instead of in isolation [14:30] and figured out I should try the GUI tool since they appear to have improved a lot in the recent releases [14:38] heinkel_111: could be too, yes :) [15:21] hola [15:24] hello world [15:25] I am looking for a pendrive image for kubuntu. I am aware of different tutorials to create such an image using the install CD and syslinux however syslinux crashesi n the attempt on my system. [15:25] so I cannot make it bootable myself [15:26] CD image will not help as I do not have a cd drive in the computer in question [15:26] Klaus_Dieter: Its easiest to use "usb-creator-kde" to install the cd image to a flash drive [15:27] James147: for that you have to have linux - I do not. [15:27] James147: currently only BSD systems around [15:27] Klaus_Dieter: then unetbootin [15:27] I also do not have a windows around [15:28] either windows or linux is required for unetbootin [15:28] :( [15:28] chicken and egg [15:29] also I doubt it would help - I am not afraid of the console, it is just that the tool needed to make the thumb drive bootable is crashing [15:29] so if I download the netbook edition image, can I install a regular kubuntu using that? [15:30] hmm jsut seeing that this would not work as I want it to be amd64 [15:31] Klaus_Dieter: yes and no... you will have to manually install kubuntu-desktop afterwards [15:31] ok [15:31] what about the switch from 32 to 64 bit? [15:31] Klaus_Dieter: impossible [15:32] dang [15:33] i wouldn't recommend 64bit yet, anyway. [15:33] Klaus_Dieter: could you try installing grub instead of syslinux? [15:33] elcaset: why not? [15:34] 32 bit is more stable. [15:34] elcaset: havent had any problems with 64bit... dont really see how its more stable [15:35] good to hear. how about drivers? [15:35] James147: I cannot build it on this system as it can only be compiled on i386 [15:35] elcaset: no problems with dirvers at all [15:36] sounds like 64 bit GNU/linux is improving. [15:39] elcaset: I have used it a couple years back and it was good [15:41] kuhl. [15:43] the current version is maverick, right? [15:43] Klaus_Dieter: lucid. [15:44] maverick is the next? [15:44] Klaus_Dieter: yes [15:52] thanks Torch and James147 [15:53] is there a kubuntu handbook? [15:57] thought so ;) [15:57] Klaus_Dieter, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ [15:58] cool BluesKaj thank you - I was looking for the software management part and it is on there [16:00] Klaus_Dieter, lots of info in the message bar [16:07] Torch: James147 I think I found a solution and I am currently seeing whether it is successful: It is this site http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Install_from_USB_drive [16:09] it is basically an image with an empty fat16 file system having sylinux installed and enough room to pu the install CD iso on it. [16:09] during startup it will (hopefully) ask for the name of the iso [16:20] can I turn an ubuntu into a kubuntu? [16:20] Klaus_Dieter: install "kubuntu-desktop" === jasem is now known as Feer [16:20] taht is it? [16:20] coool [16:21] so I can install an ubuntu now, lateron apt-get kubuntu-desktop and I have a full-fledged kubuntu [16:21] well, that will give you both gnome and kde :) [16:21] ok [16:21] !purekde | Klaus_Dieter [16:21] Klaus_Dieter: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [16:22] so then the trouble is sweet [16:22] - so then the trouble is [16:22] I was gonna complete with 2removing gnome" [16:36] this is actually pretty cool this seems to work - it recognizes the CD [16:51] wow a monkey could install ubuntu [16:51] now I am not sure whether this is good or bad ;) === bauerj|away is now known as bauerj [16:54] Klaus_Dieter: easier to use is always good... unless you take away features to do it :) [16:55] well at some point there is an ease vs efficiency debate going on [16:56] or more specifically: intuition vs efficiency [16:57] but I see your point, it is hard to argue that an installer should be complex ;) [16:58] Klaus_Dieter: and there is always the alternitive installer :) [17:05] James147: actually that is what I am using [17:05] Klaus_Dieter: :D [17:06] I really do like the way the encryption is interwoven with the installer [17:06] and the "make it work" mentality taken for setting this up [17:06] its cool [17:11] anyone with experience of fingerprints in linux? === root is now known as Guest76633 === ytoox is now known as anditosan [17:29] what do I do if I want to install a specific version of software that is not in the main repositories? [17:29] lets say rekonq 0.5 [17:30] Klaus_Dieter: depends on what format the program comes in :) [17:30] rekonq is a kde4 app - 0.4 is in the repositories afaik but 0.5 not [17:31] so I could build an own package [17:31] or ... ? [17:31] Klaus_Dieter: you can either compile it from source [17:31] or [17:31] I think my laptop is about to die. So I am going to buy a new one. Are there troubles with running Kubuntu on a radeon laptop card? [17:31] kubuntu has a development repo, it might be there [17:32] martin_: ok [17:33] dan: xorg works pretty well with nvidia and ati on linux. I personally use the open source ati driver and I am very happy with it but of course it depends on your chipset [17:33] dan: usually no problems, no [17:33] dan: but i recommend you to (stay calm) keep windows, even if you don't plan to use it [17:34] Klaus_Dieter: I've never used a non-nvidia card with Linux. But I remember 2 years ago, NVIDIA had some frustrating issues. But now the bargain basement lapotop of the week runs a radeon card. [17:34] Martin_: I usually leave the win partition up in the event that i want to play a game that is like......not kblackbox:) [17:35] dan: good, but yes, almost all newer radeon cards are supported [17:35] dan: with the binary driver it seems like there are always frustrating issues but then again I come from a different world in terms of linux.... This is my first attempt on ubuntu and have benn using FreeBSD before and before that gentoo for quite some time [17:36]