Daekdroom | Looks like I ran into a bug that doesn't have a launchpad entry. Too bad I'm horrible at reporting bugs :| | 00:22 |
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penguin42 | what is it? | 00:23 |
Daekdroom | regarding sound indicator | 00:23 |
Daekdroom | and its rhythmbox integration | 00:23 |
Daekdroom | the progressbar of the song will freeze on a given part of the song | 00:24 |
Daekdroom | xD | 00:24 |
penguin42 | ah | 00:24 |
Daekdroom | So, may anyone read the description in bug 606786 and tell me if the text is clear enough? | 00:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 606786 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox progressbar in sound indicator isn't working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606786 | 00:40 |
penguin42 | sure, let me look | 00:41 |
penguin42 | Daekdroom: I think I see what you are saying even though I don't use it | 00:42 |
Daekdroom | penguin42, how so? You have to play a song using rhythmbox to use it O.o | 00:43 |
Daekdroom | *see it | 00:43 |
penguin42 | Daekdroom: Well, you are talking about something which has a position (which is wrong), and it sounds like the thing that has the position also has a forward/backwards button, and when you use that it is based on the time it shows not the time it's actually at? | 00:44 |
Daekdroom | penguin42, let me take a screenie | 00:44 |
penguin42 | Daekdroom: It sounds to me like rhythmbox just forgets to update it at some point, but it's pretty independent so that the forward/reverse use the time it has, so if that time is wrong it's not too surprising the forward/reverse base it on that | 00:46 |
Daekdroom | penguin42, no, I mean using the BAR to go foward/backwards inside the song | 00:46 |
Daekdroom | Like the progressbar there's in rhythmbox itself. | 00:46 |
Daekdroom | penguin42, http://imagebin.org/105721 | 00:47 |
Daekdroom | There's a music applet in the panel, so you can easily notice there's something wrong | 00:47 |
penguin42 | Daekdroom: Hmm that is nice | 00:50 |
penguin42 | (I don't know hich language I'm learning - it's always interesting to learn from buttons) | 00:50 |
Daekdroom | Portuguese | 00:50 |
penguin42 | ah | 00:50 |
penguin42 | Daekdroom: It's interesting tha thte English is 'Mute All' which is qutie short, is there no Portuguese word shorter than Totalmente ? | 00:51 |
Daekdroom | penguin42, pretty much every word that could replace it ends with mente :| | 00:52 |
Daekdroom | modal adverbs :| | 00:52 |
penguin42 | what is the 'mente' ? | 00:54 |
Daekdroom | lly | 00:54 |
Daekdroom | You have lly, we have mente | 00:54 |
penguin42 | hmm | 00:55 |
* penguin42 was never very good with languages :-) | 00:55 | |
Daekdroom | Totalmente Mudo is a direct translation from Totally mute, as a matter of fact. We don't tend to use the verb "mute", so... | 00:55 |
penguin42 | Google Translate suggests Mudo tudo as a translation of Mute everything | 00:56 |
* Daekdroom facepalms | 00:56 | |
* BUGabundo hears Portuguese | 00:56 | |
Daekdroom | Emudecer tudo :| | 00:56 |
Daekdroom | and I don't think I ever heard emudecer outside poetry | 00:57 |
penguin42 | It's interesting the longer English translates into a shorter Portuguese and the other way :-) | 00:57 |
BUGabundo | that's just wrong | 00:57 |
BUGabundo | should be "sem som" | 00:57 |
Daekdroom | BUGabundo, Oh yeah, there's that! | 00:57 |
BUGabundo | please ping susana, and ask for it to be upgraded | 00:57 |
BUGabundo | or fixed | 00:58 |
forrestv | penguin42, have you looked into that mouse bug at all? | 00:58 |
Daekdroom | We could propose a change ourselves through launchpad, y'know. | 00:58 |
forrestv | i'm not sure what to do as i don | 00:58 |
penguin42 | forrestv: Which one? | 00:58 |
forrestv | 't know which package | 00:58 |
forrestv | penguin42, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/606589 | 00:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 606589 in Ubuntu "relative mouse movement in games - cursor/view jumps to same position approximately every second" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 00:58 |
penguin42 | forrestv: No I haven't, I wondered if it was related to the focus errors metacity keeps giving me and the high X cpu usage I sometimes get, but not looked into it | 00:59 |
Daekdroom | That happens to me when I don't have the windows focused.. | 00:59 |
* penguin42 wouldn't really know where to look | 00:59 | |
BUGabundo | Daekdroom: #ubuntu-pt | 01:00 |
penguin42 | forrestv: ALso, for you does it flicker very badly - even ignoring the jump? | 01:01 |
forrestv | penguin42, no, only the jumping. | 01:02 |
yoasif | im noticing a weird issue with my web browsers -- the letter "b" doesn't come up in some places | 01:02 |
yoasif | anyone else seeing this weirdness? | 01:02 |
penguin42 | forrestv: Hmm ok, sounds like I have at least two bugs then | 01:03 |
penguin42 | yoasif: No, not seen that | 01:03 |
yoasif | penguin42, this is what it looks like: http://i.imgur.com/68lc2.png | 01:04 |
penguin42 | yoasif: What's wrong with that? | 01:06 |
Daekdroom | penguin42, look closer | 01:06 |
Daekdroom | penguin42, there are a few "bug" and "but" words without the b | 01:06 |
yoasif | look at the like with 29760 with the flash | 01:06 |
yoasif | line* | 01:07 |
penguin42 | oh - WEIRD | 01:07 |
yofel | o.O | 01:07 |
penguin42 | I would have said it was bold capital B's except we have one of those | 01:08 |
yoasif | yeah it's weird | 01:08 |
kklimonda | BUGabundo: hey, are you still there? | 01:09 |
BUGabundo | kklimonda: pong | 01:09 |
kklimonda | BUGabundo: could you send me the 64bit version of the flash plugin? | 01:10 |
BUGabundo | let me see if I have it | 01:10 |
BUGabundo | I don't :( | 01:10 |
kklimonda | bah | 01:10 |
BUGabundo | I think I have it at work | 01:10 |
Daekdroom | penguin42, they only show up in bug and but words | 01:10 |
BUGabundo | ping me back on Monday | 01:10 |
Daekdroom | I mean, the bug only shows up :P | 01:10 |
forrestv | anyone know how to get the source for a version of a package in maverick that's out of the repository? looking for xserver-xorg-core=1.8.1.902-0ubuntu1 and xserver-xorg-core=1.8.1.902-0ubuntu2 to diff | 01:10 |
kklimonda | BUGabundo: sure, will do | 01:11 |
BUGabundo | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 116K 2010-06-10 23:08 /var/lib/flashplugin-installer/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so* | 01:12 |
BUGabundo | not sure that's 32 or 64 | 01:12 |
kklimonda | it crashes like crazy :/ | 01:12 |
BUGabundo | Shockwave Flash 10.1 r53 | 01:12 |
BUGabundo | yeah, flash started to crash yesterday | 01:12 |
kklimonda | npwrapper sounds like a 32 bit plugin wrapped :) | 01:12 |
kklimonda | yesterday? | 01:12 |
kklimonda | It crashed like an hour ago for me ;) | 01:13 |
kklimonda | I was so happy with 64 bit plugin :/ | 01:13 |
kklimonda | but I've forgotten to backup it | 01:13 |
penguin42 | forrestv: The ubuntu2 should have a changelog in at least | 01:14 |
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forrestv | ah yeah | 01:18 |
BUGabundo | kklimonda: heh there should be some internet backup :p | 01:19 |
penguin42 | forrestv: Supposedly the only difference between 1.8.1.902-0ubuntu 1 and 2 was they removed the upstream changelog | 01:19 |
kklimonda | BUGabundo: I know, but I don't trust random .so files and I don't have a hash ;) | 01:21 |
BUGabundo | ask fta. maybe he has it | 01:21 |
Daekdroom | Looks like they finally reported the startup mute issue | 01:23 |
Daekdroom | in bug 597282 | 01:23 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 597282 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Volume is at Zero on every log-in" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597282 | 01:23 |
penguin42 | Daekdroom: It was OK today for me | 01:23 |
alien__ | Does someone want to help me with my question? | 03:31 |
IdleOne | you haven't asked a question | 03:32 |
alien__ | Hello, I am having a graphics problem. When I boot normally I do not recieve a graphics output. However I can still interact with it. (i still hear the noise at the login screen, I press shutdown button and it shutsdown) If I add i915.modeset=0 to grub I get a "low graphics mode" The graphics card works even worse in 10.04. Does anyone have any reccomedations? | 03:32 |
alien__ | It was a while ago... | 03:33 |
IdleOne | alien__: the proper channel to ask would be #ubuntu | 03:33 |
IdleOne | this is for ubuntu 10.10 | 03:33 |
alien__ | even though I am running ubuntu 10.10. | 03:33 |
IdleOne | alien__: ahh sorry | 03:33 |
IdleOne | I misread | 03:33 |
alien__ | np, | 03:34 |
IdleOne | ok yes this would be the proper channel | 03:34 |
IdleOne | be patient and if someone knows they will try to help | 03:34 |
alien__ | Ok Ty | 03:34 |
rsouthard | alien, have you tried the alternate cd? | 03:52 |
cozziemoto | hey guys... no sun java yet in partner repo? | 05:36 |
DanaG | Say, anyone know if Maverick PPC kernel has radeonfb disabled? | 08:55 |
DanaG | I'm having a hell of a time trying to get radeon KMS to work on Lucid on a PowerBook G4. | 08:55 |
DanaG | With video= anything but "ofonly", I get radeonfb.... and with ofonly, radeondrmfb doesn't properly kick out offb. | 08:56 |
LoverBoyV | Hello, can anyone in here help me with my graphics issues? | 09:06 |
LoverBoyV_ | Is there anyone here that can help me? | 09:41 |
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dupondje | yofel: what you think about making a wiki page about the current X-issues | 11:08 |
dupondje | alot of people are hitting the bug | 11:08 |
dupondje | and its maby cool that we can give them some workarounds :) | 11:08 |
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* penguin42 drops a pin | 14:31 | |
* yofel listens till the echo fades out.. | 14:32 | |
StaRetji | Folks, is it possible to upgrade from lucid to maverick, but without upgrading the kernel? | 14:36 |
StaRetji | hehe | 14:36 |
nigelb | why would you want to do that? | 14:36 |
StaRetji | I on usb stick with permanent storage | 14:36 |
penguin42 | StaRetji: The upgrade generally leaves the old kernel and it still seems to work | 14:36 |
StaRetji | it didn't for me | 14:36 |
StaRetji | tried installing kernel and broke down | 14:37 |
nigelb | StaRetji: are you sure? It may have just removed the grub entries | 14:37 |
StaRetji | couldn't boot anymore coz I'm booting with syslonux | 14:37 |
StaRetji | it's casper-rw | 14:37 |
StaRetji | it would be awesome if I can upgrade the kernel | 14:38 |
StaRetji | maybe everything is almost ok, but I end up in initrams or something at he boot (if kernel is ugpraded) | 14:40 |
StaRetji | anywayz, thx folks, see ya around o7 | 14:49 |
penguin42 | anyone use xfwm4? | 15:08 |
pavolzetor | Hallo, I wanna join ayatana | 15:44 |
IdleOne | https://launchpad.net/ayatana | 15:45 |
pavolzetor | thanks | 15:48 |
pavolzetor | and another question | 15:48 |
pavolzetor | why are new apps written in python? | 15:48 |
yofel | pavolzetor: that's the decision of whoever writes the app, they don't have to be | 15:49 |
yofel | python is a bit easier for beginners IMHO than C/++ | 15:50 |
pavolzetor | hmm, but slower, damn, I don't use python, I use C, because it is faster | 15:51 |
pavolzetor | I used C on some competitions | 15:51 |
penguin42 | pavolzetor: Python is slower, but when the app is mostly a GUI and doesn't do much computation then all the time is spent in the libraries that are C anyway | 15:52 |
penguin42 | and it is less work to write GUI apps in python than C | 15:53 |
pavolzetor | hmm but also ABI for calcualtions in C is slow | 15:55 |
penguin42 | ? | 15:56 |
pavolzetor | I did experiments in andorid | 15:56 |
pavolzetor | and call C app from Java is slow | 15:56 |
penguin42 | pavolzetor: The trick with any of these things is to make the right choice about what to have in C and what to have in the other language; you don't want to make too many crossings between them; it works for some type of applications better than others | 15:57 |
pavolzetor | yes, for math on android is C only wat | 15:58 |
pavolzetor | y | 15:58 |
pavolzetor | I try join to ayatana | 15:59 |
pavolzetor | And could someone help me with this | 16:00 |
pavolzetor | https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-power/+bug/257827 | 16:01 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 257827 in linux (Ubuntu) "brightness changes twice when using hotkeys" [Medium,Incomplete] | 16:01 |
pavolzetor | no one? | 16:04 |
penguin42 | pavolzetor: I'm never quite sure which bits do the brightness stuff | 16:04 |
pavolzetor | I feel, no one interests in this bug report | 16:04 |
pavolzetor | and it is horrible | 16:05 |
penguin42 | pavolzetor: I think there are a lot of similar hotkey/brightness bugs I've seen, but I think there are a lot of things that interact | 16:05 |
pavolzetor | hmm | 16:06 |
yofel | maybe you should file a new bug.. | 16:07 |
pavolzetor | but I don't like duplicates | 16:07 |
yofel | some people there say they have the bug but say that brightness doesn't change at all | 16:07 |
yofel | pavolzetor: kernel team policy is that users should never think they have the same bug but *please* file duplicates | 16:07 |
pavolzetor | have you laptop? | 16:08 |
yofel | as even one changed chip on a motherbord can mean that one fix works on one mainboard but not on another of the same model | 16:08 |
penguin42 | yofel: Or just a fine difference between firmware version | 16:09 |
pavolzetor | maybe | 16:09 |
yofel | yep | 16:09 |
pavolzetor | but I have TP t500 and my sisster has FSC V5505 | 16:09 |
pavolzetor | rangew is 16 steps | 16:09 |
pavolzetor | but ubuntu changes it twice | 16:09 |
yofel | then even more the reason that a fix might work on one and not on another | 16:09 |
pavolzetor | I can fix it for me | 16:09 |
pavolzetor | because brightness is handled by kernel | 16:10 |
pavolzetor | and gnome handles it too | 16:10 |
pavolzetor | 1 step for kernel | 16:10 |
pavolzetor | 1 step by gpm | 16:10 |
pavolzetor | and twice steps are in the world :-D | 16:10 |
pavolzetor | I have tested it on 2 laptops | 16:10 |
yofel | pavolzetor: well, asking in #ubuntu-kernel certainly won't hurt, they might be able to give you better advice | 16:11 |
pavolzetor | and if kernel cannot change it, I think it is impossible to handle it by gnome-power-manager | 16:11 |
yofel | (don't expect them to answer soon though..) | 16:11 |
pavolzetor | okey | 16:11 |
pavolzetor | I try it | 16:11 |
pavolzetor | time, | 16:11 |
yofel | can take like several hours.. | 16:11 |
yofel | depends if someone that knows about brightness control is online atm | 16:12 |
penguin42 | pavolzetor: Are you sure it is the kernel that is doing and not the firmware? | 16:13 |
pavolzetor | In vista it works properly | 16:14 |
pavolzetor | and also, if I kill gnome-power-manager | 16:14 |
pavolzetor | it works properly | 16:14 |
penguin42 | yeh but I'm wondering if the 2 steps are coming from gpm+firmware rather than gpm+kernel | 16:14 |
pavolzetor | yes, it could be also firmware | 16:15 |
pavolzetor | you might be right | 16:15 |
pavolzetor | but gnome-power-manager (gpm) gives notification | 16:15 |
pavolzetor | and another question | 16:16 |
pavolzetor | how can I boot my snapshot? | 16:16 |
pavolzetor | I have made snapshot of root | 16:17 |
pavolzetor | and then upgrade to maverick | 16:17 |
penguin42 | that is a LONG running bug isn't it | 16:17 |
pavolzetor | what? with bitghtness? | 16:18 |
pavolzetor | maybe half of year | 16:18 |
penguin42 | pavolzetor: No, look at the length of that bug - it goes back many years | 16:19 |
pavolzetor | you are right | 16:19 |
pavolzetor | I had reported it many times | 16:19 |
penguin42 | did you try the boot with acpi_backlight=vendor ? | 16:20 |
pavolzetor | I try it, brgt | 16:20 |
pavolzetor | brb | 16:20 |
pavolzetor | thanks, I report new bug | 16:36 |
penguin42 | did that help? | 16:36 |
pavolzetor | I have tested it on sister laptop and acpi_backlight=vendor not works properly | 16:37 |
pavolzetor | at me it owrks | 16:37 |
pavolzetor | How can I log irc conversation? | 16:37 |
penguin42 | pavolzetor: Depends on your client, but this will appear here irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/07/18/%23ubuntu+1.html at the start of the next hour | 16:39 |
pavolzetor | thanks | 16:39 |
penguin42 | The kernels drivers/acpi/video.c is very big, lots of fixes for specific bioses - just looking through it, quite complex | 16:40 |
pavolzetor | Hey, my screen sometimes flicker | 16:43 |
pavolzetor | could it be hardware issue? | 16:43 |
penguin42 | yes, depends on the type of flicker I guess | 16:45 |
pavolzetor | it shows colorfull rows | 16:45 |
penguin42 | that sounds like hardware to me | 16:46 |
pavolzetor | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/508248 | 16:46 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 508248 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[gm45] Screen flickers once in a while, not whole screen, one small stretch at bottom middle" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:46 |
pavolzetor | I don't see it in vista ever | 16:46 |
pavolzetor | and earlier ubuntu | 16:46 |
penguin42 | hmm ok; well I guess you might be seeing a program start up and draw something there and then go away | 16:47 |
penguin42 | I do remember a while ago seeing a flicker on my Intel machine that was a driver issue - used to be whole screen though | 16:48 |
pavolzetor | I don't think that | 16:48 |
pavolzetor | I have it only on bottom hlaf of screen | 16:48 |
penguin42 | pavolzetor: Maybe; difficult to tell - on Intel where it shares RAM bandwidth with the host system you can get some odd effects | 16:49 |
penguin42 | (when it goes wrong) | 16:49 |
pavolzetor | I try report bug | 16:49 |
pavolzetor | I am using 32 kernel | 16:50 |
pavolzetor | but I have also 35 kernel | 16:50 |
pavolzetor | but there my wireless card not works | 16:50 |
pavolzetor | I have only 4 GB ram | 16:50 |
pavolzetor | can it depends on it? | 16:50 |
penguin42 | on the amount of RAM? Unlikely | 16:52 |
pavolzetor | hmm | 16:52 |
pavolzetor | I think it depends on kernel | 16:52 |
pavolzetor | or intel drivers | 16:52 |
penguin42 | I haven't updated my intel machine to Maverick yet | 16:53 |
pavolzetor | got choice :-) | 16:53 |
pavolzetor | good | 16:53 |
penguin42 | I'm having enough fun issues with my other machine that has Radeon | 16:54 |
pavolzetor | I have two graphic cards | 16:55 |
pavolzetor | Ati works properly | 16:55 |
pavolzetor | I don;t remember buggy alhpa like maverick | 16:57 |
penguin42 | hey if Alpha just worked no one would wait for Beta! | 16:58 |
pavolzetor | yes | 16:58 |
pavolzetor | I am maintainer of slovak translation | 16:58 |
pavolzetor | therefore I need testing release | 16:58 |
penguin42 | ah I see | 17:01 |
penguin42 | I guess you find things where people have forgotten to translate them or put them through the tranlsation layer at all | 17:01 |
pavolzetor | yes | 17:01 |
pavolzetor | It is sometimes funny, if you are in parttime job and ubuntu wont boot :-D | 17:02 |
pavolzetor | I am going to try my snapshot boot | 17:03 |
pavolzetor | And do you have idea why wifi not works on lastest kernel? | 17:04 |
penguin42 | I don't run wifi here | 17:05 |
penguin42 | I use wires - I know where my packets go! | 17:06 |
* Daekdroom takes a deep breath | 17:06 | |
Daekdroom | Looks like empathy's notifyOSD causes telepathy-butterfly to crash.. | 17:06 |
pavolzetor | heh, we have 3 comp | 17:07 |
pavolzetor | and router is in different room | 17:07 |
pavolzetor | I have WPA2 | 17:08 |
pavolzetor | my neightborn has WEP :-D (pretty damn to see, what he does) | 17:08 |
duffydack | Ive got win7 and lucid dual boot and i have 30gig unallocted at the end of my drive, I have no /boot partition, so will installing maverick into my 30gig free space and making a seperate boot partition affect lucid in any way ? | 17:52 |
BUGabundo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/270822 | 18:09 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 270822 in syslinux (Ubuntu) "please upgrade syslinux from 3.63 to latest debian sid version" [Low,Fix released] | 18:09 |
BUGabundo | thank you cjwatson :D | 18:09 |
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DanaG | Say, how do I get radeonfb not to try to load on Maverick? | 21:08 |
DanaG | it's built-in, so I can't blacklist it! | 21:08 |
DanaG | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=584744 | 21:15 |
ubottu | Debian bug 584744 in linux-2.6 "linux-2.6: radeonfb builtin on sparc and powerpc" [Important,Open] | 21:15 |
DanaG | So I'm rather stuck right now... | 21:18 |
DanaG | if I try video=ofonly, it uses offb and breaks KMS. | 21:18 |
DanaG | If I use video=offb:off, it turns off offb, but leaves radeonfb active... thus still breaking KMS! | 21:18 |
DanaG | ah, a workaround: | 21:19 |
DanaG | video=ofonly video=offb:off | 21:19 |
DanaG | Tells it not to use radeonfb, in favor of offb... then tells it not to use offb. | 21:26 |
DanaG | Weird: on radeondrmfb on powerpc, plymouth is white on bright bright blue. | 21:36 |
EliteHunters | hey all | 22:02 |
EliteHunters | anyone using 10.10 Alpha 2 | 22:02 |
EliteHunters | got it last night and been testing it for this entire day so far | 22:03 |
EliteHunters | adding firefox support | 22:03 |
EliteHunters | flash | 22:03 |
EliteHunters | vlc | 22:03 |
EliteHunters | skype | 22:03 |
EliteHunters | working fine thus far | 22:04 |
EliteHunters | haven't thrown any 720 or 1080 mkv at it yet | 22:05 |
EliteHunters | what about any of you all | 22:06 |
EliteHunters | how is Maverick M going for you | 22:07 |
EliteHunters | hey ppl | 22:36 |
BUGabundo | hey EliteHunters | 22:41 |
EliteHunters | hey BUGabundo | 22:42 |
EliteHunters | how's everything on you side | 22:43 |
EliteHunters | not much to report on my end | 22:43 |
BUGabundo | neither | 22:43 |
EliteHunters | just testing out the Mav Meerkat | 22:43 |
EliteHunters | seeing how it handles | 22:43 |
EliteHunters | but that's about it so far | 22:44 |
EliteHunters | the stability looks good | 22:44 |
EliteHunters | had to fight up with some app additions for myself | 22:44 |
EliteHunters | but I got through it | 22:44 |
BUGabundo | wb | 22:48 |
TommyThaGun | does ubuntu support the turbo boost tech of the new intel chips? or is that something that the chips do on their own? | 22:52 |
EliteHunters | thanks | 22:53 |
EliteHunters | just getting to know the Quassel IRC | 22:53 |
EliteHunters | use to XChat | 22:53 |
yofel | TommyThaGun: The turbo boost on my i7 works... I think, powertop shows the cpu as being in turbo boost mode when under heavy usage | 22:57 |
TommyThaGun | cool deal | 22:58 |
TommyThaGun | I'm looking at upgrading my laptop, and I'm looking at different features and seeing what really matters about my upgrade | 22:58 |
TommyThaGun | which way I should go | 22:58 |
TommyThaGun | hmm | 23:02 |
TommyThaGun | is blu-ray not officially supported on linux systems? | 23:09 |
TommyThaGun | maybe that's a #ubuntu-offtopic question | 23:09 |
EliteHunters | any feedback on Maverick Meerkat Alpha 2 | 23:21 |
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