[00:45] <smeag0l> hello
[00:52] <DarkwingDuck> Hey
[00:52] <DarkwingDuck> Is there something we can help you with?
[00:53] <DarkwingDuck> smeag0l: ^^
[00:57] <smeag0l> no DarkwingDuck thank you anyway :)
[00:58] <smeag0l> not that i can think of right now
[01:01] <DarkwingDuck> :) Okay
[01:01]  * DarkwingDuck goes back to playing with his rooted droid
[01:01] <smeag0l> i will let know when come up with something DarkwingDuck :)
[01:01] <smeag0l> *you
[01:02] <smeag0l> *i
[01:02] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[02:52] <revolverXD> anyone can help me to restore grub after windows 7 graciously obliterated it out of existence?
[02:53] <revolverXD> started the ubuntu live cd but it can't find grub there :\
[02:54] <revolverXD> and when i try to find /boot/grub/stage1 it cant find it
[02:54] <phillw> revolverXD: give me a couple of minutes
[02:54] <revolverXD> thx m8:)
[02:55] <gheil> When i do
[02:55] <gheil> System/Prefences/Monitors
[02:55] <gheil> it yields an alert window:
[02:55] <gheil> Could not get screen information
[02:55] <gheil> RANDR extension is not present
[02:55] <gheil> [close]
[02:55] <gheil> This leaves my main monitor upside down...
[02:55] <gheil> anyway to restore that file or otherwise renormalize funtioning?
[02:55] <gheil> Could have happened either when i installed the Nvidia driver, or xfce, or system/pref/appearances/visual effects... do not know where but ion the latter i seem stuck at "none"
[02:55] <phillw> revolverXD: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[02:55] <gheil> thanks!
[02:57] <revolverXD> gonna try it out now thx
[03:02] <phillw> gheil: I'm not really in the know on RandR, but I can give you a hint that may help?
[03:02] <gheil> sure!
[03:02] <revolverXD> lol this will take some work - now i need to put windows 7 entry in grub :)
[03:03] <phillw> http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=84
[03:03] <revolverXD> but thx at least i got my linux back :)
[03:03] <phillw> revolverXD: it is easier to reinstall the win7 boot, then use the same thread to put grub on.
[03:04] <phillw> revolverXD: the 1st thing to do, as ever, is to make sure win can boot
[03:05] <revolverXD> im gonna dig into it some more i remember somewhere i read that you need to add something to grub boot file so you could see windows 7 loader
[03:08] <phillw> revolverXD: if you have read through that thread, you will find the answers; and be able to ask.
[03:10] <revolverXD> thx phillw i will read more in the thread then
[03:12] <phillw> it is well supported thread, try from the front for instructions, then head toward the last postings to see how others are getting on. It is a curse of a good set of instructions --- too many pages  :-\
[03:15] <revolverXD> lol i didnt even noticed there were other pages :)
[03:15] <phillw> it's a well known topic
[03:16] <phillw> we do try to heard people over to that thread, no offence meant.
[03:18] <revolverXD> none taken i used to do things on my own but im just too new to linux to start doing things like installing other OS on it so i find myself here occasionally :)
[03:20] <phillw> revolverXD: I'm here a lot of time, use the ping function to leave a message when I am phillw_away and I will catch up with it.
[03:21] <revolverXD> thx :)
[03:23] <gheil> @phillw, Ah well when i system/administration/multiple screens a window simply flashed on and vanished from site. So i gather grandr is "incompatible" with my system.
[03:23] <gheil> At the least i would like to get rid of the upside down screen as ubuntu's main screen, or even altogether
[03:23] <phillw> revolverXD: it is why I am here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw is me, and http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/19/the-ubuntu-ethos/ is why I do it
[03:25] <svaksha> phillw: i tightened the connectors to both the disk and mobo. maybe that was why the bios could not detect it. Re, dust, there is some which i can only clean superficially. Most of the parts connected to the circuits  on the mobo are so fragile that I dont want to touch them unnecesarily.
[03:26] <svaksha> phillw: thanks for the help. Today morning when i booted it, the disk worked :)
[03:27] <revolverXD> only one question lucid lynx comes with grub 2 or is it 1?
[03:27] <phillw> svaksha: I'd strongly recommend you get a 2nd hard drive.
[03:27] <phillw> revolverXD: grub2
[03:27] <revolverXD> thx
[03:28] <stlsaint> phillw: see post in wiki
[03:29] <svaksha> phillw: yes...it seems like a warning that its on its last legs :(
[03:29] <revolverXD> lol phillw you know how i solved it in the end?
[03:30] <revolverXD> sudo grub-update :)
[03:30] <phillw> revolverXD: do tell... I like a happy ending
[03:30] <revolverXD> it found the boot loader and found every other thing on the HHD :)
[03:31] <phillw> revolverXD: you got to take your hat off to GRUB .. it's darn good at the job it was givien.
[03:31] <revolverXD> arr i mean update-grub
[03:31] <revolverXD> yeah indeed it is
[03:32] <revolverXD> well m8 thx for the help and now i think i will have a well deserved sleep :)
[03:44] <jazzisjazz> Howdy all, I'm a ubuntu newbie looking for a good place to ask questions about setting up a dual boot with xp pro, am I in the right place for that?
[03:48] <stlsaint> yes
[03:48] <stlsaint> jazzisjazz: howdy
[03:49] <stlsaint> jazzisjazz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[03:54] <jazzisjazz> I looked there but wound up using a different set of instructions
[03:56] <jazzisjazz> here - http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p3.html
[03:57] <stlsaint> jazzisjazz: yea herman does do some great tuts
[03:59] <jazzisjazz> background 500gb disk with xp image transferred via ghost from 80gb disk to 105gb partion to start
[04:02] <jazzisjazz> next 105 gb primary, ext3, /, for the ubuntu install
[04:06] <jazzisjazz> next added 245gb logical, fat32, /windows - I wanted a large space for file storage that both windows and ubuntu could access - forgot that fat32 partitions max at 32gb
[04:07] <jazzisjazz> next 5gb, swap
[04:08] <jazzisjazz> next wanted to leave @45gb unused just incase it might be need for something in future
[04:10] <jazzisjazz> ubuntu began installing but reports that the 245gb vfat could not be created - I guess due to size
[04:12] <jazzisjazz> How do i setup that space so that both OSes have access to things stored there?
[04:12] <stlsaint> jazzisjazz: do you understand what partitions are?
[04:13] <stlsaint> jazzisjazz: why are you using vfat for that 245gb partition?
[04:13] <stlsaint> jazzisjazz: why not ntfs?
[04:16] <stlsaint> jazzisjazz: if you just want a spare "data" drive than just partition it off and format it ntfs. That way you can mount it in windows and in ubuntu and be able to use it in both OS'es! :D
[04:17] <jazzisjazz> I was following a format recommendation suggested for a much smaller hard drive, I have set up one dual boot before and probably did use ntfs for that one but was trying to closely follow directions and just goofed
[04:21] <jazzisjazz> right now the 245gb is listed as free space, to set it up as you suggest would it be set logical or primary?
[04:23] <jazzisjazz> If I choose logical, beginning, then ntfs does not appear as a "use as" option
[04:24] <stlsaint> jazzisjazz: your confusing how this drive will be used
[04:25] <stlsaint> jazzisjazz: you do NOT have to do anything with this free space during the installation of ubuntu
[04:25] <stlsaint> you can leave it completely alone and format it after you install ubuntu with either ubuntu or windows
[04:25] <stlsaint> i would sugges using windows since its ntfs and thats windows specialty
[04:27] <jazzisjazz> so I should be able to go back to where I left off and just leave the formatting of that partition untill  later?
[04:29] <stlsaint> jazzisjazz: continue with the install of ubuntu as you would and leave that free space "free" and yes go back to it later using windows disk management
[04:34] <jazzisjazz> the 245gb is free space, choosing forward gets a message that no root file system is defined. Please correct from the partitioning menu?
[04:52] <jazzisjazz> needed to mark the ubuntu partition, /, and continue with the install - seems okay now , thanks for the help.
[06:33] <s_mark> does anyone know how to limit incomming connections speed based on IP address? e.g. limit each ip max to 1MB/s. Would linux tc do the job, if so how?
[06:59] <nishchay> hello friends can anybody please help me setting up my apache2 server
[06:59] <nishchay> I am on Ubuntu 10.04
[07:00] <phillw> hi nishchay, how far have you gotten in setting it up?
[07:00] <nishchay> I have setup apache2, mysql, php5, phmyadmin everything. The only problem is that
[07:01] <nishchay> I am unable to change Document root
[07:01] <nishchay> it says Forbidden  You don't have permission to access / on this server.  Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80
[07:01] <phillw> nishchay: how did you install your LAMP?
[07:01] <nishchay> using apt-get manually
[07:02] <phillw> ahh, then you fall into the 'do not do it via google' class of people.
[07:02] <nishchay> exactly :P
[07:03] <phillw> before we start, how old is your installation?
[07:03] <nishchay> so what should I do now
[07:03] <nishchay> it is around 12 hours old
[07:04] <phillw> could I suggest a reinstall, it would save a lot of grief. I will go through it with you, but that would be quicker
[07:04] <nishchay> what should i reinstall? apache 2 only or everything?
[07:05] <phillw> I'd suggest start from a clean install, and use tasksel
[07:06] <nishchay> ok so first of all i should remove all previous installation and then run tasksel
[07:06] <nishchay> am i going right?
[07:07] <nishchay> or i can run it and it will automatically overwrite everything?
[07:07] <phillw> nishchay: if you run tasksel, it *may* correct things for you
[07:07] <phillw> http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4
[07:08] <phillw> I'm giving a lesson on it on wedensday, too late for you
[07:09] <nishchay> ok thnx so i am reinstalling now it afresh and will let you know as soon as it is done
[07:09] <phillw> this guy went through the mill in getting it sorted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349863
[07:09] <phillw> a clean install is faster, as I do not know what the permission errors are
[07:13] <svaksha> phillw:out of curiosity, would tasksel be needed for apache2+python+mailman too?
[07:13] <nishchay> it says
[07:13] <nishchay> sudo tasksel
[07:13] <nishchay> $ sudo tasksel xserver-xorg					install tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[07:14]  * svaksha meant postgresql+apache2+python+mailman 
[07:14] <svaksha> nishchay: try using apt-get
[07:14] <phillw> svaksha: use tasksel to do each job
[07:14] <nishchay> i had installed it like that only but phillw has led me to do it an uninstall
[07:15] <nishchay> when i run tasksel
[07:15] <nishchay> it asked me a list to select from
[07:15] <phillw> sudo tasksel
[07:15] <nishchay> i selected LAMP server
[07:15] <phillw> go choose LAMP
[07:15] <nishchay> and unchecked all other else
[07:15] <phillw> tasksel will have nothing checked
[07:15] <nishchay> it uninstalled bluefish, ubuntu desktop and many more packages
[07:16] <nishchay> and then ended up in error
[07:16] <nishchay> again same :
[07:16] <nishchay> nishchay@nishchay-desktop:~$ sudo tasksel tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[07:16] <nishchay> what now?
[07:16] <phillw> nishchay: and you wonder why it does not work? Bluefish has nothing to do with LAMP
[07:16] <svaksha> phillw: well, i used apt-get for apache2(it works), python2.5, and PG but mailman i build manually
[07:17] <nishchay> everything was working absolutely fine with my apache2 and all the only problem was I wanna set my DocumentRoot to point somewhere else
[07:18] <phillw> can we just put the ghost of apt-get this, that and the other to bed? https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[07:18] <phillw> tasksel, live and get on with it. apt-get stuff is prior to 9.04 - the fact it is still popular on google is not the fault of ubuntu
[07:19] <phillw> all the ubuntu pages on the subject point to the server manual; I really do not know why people will not use them.
[07:20] <phillw> then come on saying "it doesn't work" :p
[07:57] <AmrH> Hi
[07:58] <AmrH> anybody here?
[08:17] <AJH101> Hi how do I check my video card chipset to ensure I have the most up to date driver please?
[08:31] <duanedesign> you will recieve updates through the repository automagically
[08:31] <duanedesign> when a new driver uploads to the repo the update manager will let you know
[08:32] <duanedesign> AJH101: Syatem > Administration > Update Manager
[10:10]  * saji89_ is away: Off to have lunch.
[15:19] <ubuntu> Right. I just installed ubuntu Lucid on a portable drive plugged in via Usb. Iv got windows installed on my "standard" hard drive. During the partition page while installing i picked #2 alternative to use the whole drive (as i have windows on a diff drive it wouldnt matter) But after installation i cant boot on anything but the liveCD. Tried searching the ubuntu documentation but i didnt find any info on that particular issue (whereas its on two
[15:19] <ubuntu> diff physical drives)
[15:20] <ubuntu> When booting, im getting the message - Error: No such device : "my portable discs name"  and then new line - Grub rescue>
[15:39] <holstein> ubuntu: you installed ubuntu on an external drive?
[15:40] <ubuntu> aye
[15:40] <holstein> and you got windows on the internal one?
[15:40] <ubuntu> yep
[15:40] <holstein> and when the internal one is not plugged in..
[15:40] <holstein> you get an error booting windows?
[15:40] <holstein> correct?
[15:40] <ubuntu> nope
[15:40] <holstein> external*
[15:40]  * holstein just waking up
[15:40] <ubuntu> doesnt matter if its plugged in or not - it wont boot
[15:40] <holstein> hmmm
[15:41] <holstein> you going to need to get you windows partition booting
[15:41] <holstein> you can use the windows disc
[15:41] <holstein> and recover the windows bootloader
[15:41] <ubuntu> ok
[15:41] <holstein> then, i would suggest really reading about a couple things
[15:41] <holstein> you could...
[15:42] <holstein> install grub to the external drive as well
[15:42] <holstein> then
[15:42] <holstein> you would choose that HD to 'boot'
[15:42] <holstein> you would see the grub list
[15:42] <holstein> and boot ubuntu
[15:43] <holstein> AFAIK
[15:43] <holstein> if you install grub
[15:43] <holstein> and have ubuntu on an external drive
[15:43] <holstein> you MUST have that external drive plugged in for anything to boot
[15:43] <holstein> not ideal
[15:44] <holstein> ubuntu: you could try something like http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[15:45] <ubuntu> mm i was afraid that id have to have it plugged in to boot anything
[15:45] <holstein> ubuntu: in the last step of the installer
[15:45] <holstein> theres an 'advanced' button?
[15:45] <holstein> something like that down at the bottom right in the window
[15:46] <holstein> thats where you can tell grub where to go
[15:46] <holstein> or not to be installed
[15:46] <ubuntu> uhm.
[15:47] <ubuntu> Right, but im new to this partitioning thing so i figured id go with the safe way and letting it choose for me
[15:47] <holstein> sure
[15:47] <holstein> and it chooses to install the OS where you say
[15:47] <ubuntu> I suppose having dualboot with 2 discs aint meant to be for beginners after all :)
[15:47] <holstein> and grub to the main HD
[15:48] <holstein> ubuntu: try GAG
[15:48] <holstein> if its the same as it used to be
[15:48] <ubuntu> what if i install grub to my internal disc? wouldnt i then be able to choose just windows if external aint plugged in?
[15:48] <holstein> you dont need to install it to ues it
[15:48] <holstein> ubuntu: you'll install grub to the external disc
[15:49] <holstein> then if there is an option in the bios
[15:49] <holstein> something like 'press f9 to choose boot device'
[15:49] <holstein> you just choose that disc
[15:49] <holstein> BUT you got to get windows booting again
[15:49] <ubuntu> Ye
[15:50] <ubuntu> So, fix the bootloader for windows. and after that just choose which disc to boot on via bios
[15:50] <holstein> afterthat
[15:50] <holstein> you'll need to install grub
[15:50] <holstein> on that external drive
[15:50] <holstein> then you can choose
[15:51] <holstein> assuming thats the way you want to go
[15:51] <saji89> ubuntu, holstein - alternatively you could install ubuntu on the external hard-disk, along with grub on it. Allow windows to boot using Windows bootloader. While booting, every time you need to use ubuntu, you can select the option to "Boot from external USB/HD" from the BIOS. Now, the GRUB on the external HD will take you in. Will that be ok?
[15:51] <ubuntu> saji89 yeah that sounds like a plan.. it was the plan up to the time where windows didnt want to boot any more
[15:52] <ubuntu> luckely i have a windows cd laying around so hopefully thatll fix it
[15:52] <holstein> ubuntu: you got a fresh install
[15:52] <saji89> ubuntu, Yep.
[15:52] <holstein> so even if you need to totally reinstall to do it
[15:52] <holstein> whatever
[15:52] <ubuntu> but isnt grub installed by default on external disc cause thats where ubuntu was installed.
[15:52] <saji89> ubuntu, Installing ubuntu on external Hard-disk is explaine din this link- http://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/
[15:52] <holstein> ubuntu: nope
[15:53] <holstein> doest have to be
[15:53] <saji89> ubuntu, but Its about ubuntu 7.04 version. Anyways I see no reason why it should not work witj newer ones.
[15:53] <saji89> with*
[15:54] <saji89> ubuntu, please see that link, i think it exactly tells you how to get the bootloader(GRUB) on external HD, without harming your current windows bootloader(After a fresh install of Windows, first).
[15:54] <ubuntu> mm, so all i really did wrong was not to remove the internal disc.
[15:54] <ubuntu> Something got installed "destroying" the bootloader there etc
[15:55] <holstein> ubuntu: you can look
[15:55] <ubuntu> ye
[15:55] <ubuntu> seems so
[15:55] <holstein> in that step in the installer
[15:55] <holstein> and tell grub what disc to go to
[15:55] <ubuntu> well, thats only via advanced setup @ the partition stage if im not wrong
[15:56] <holstein> its after partioning
[15:56] <holstein> partitioning*
[15:56] <holstein> step 6 i think
[15:56] <holstein> its the last step where you confirm everything
[15:57] <holstein> i *always* look there
[15:57] <ubuntu> ahh yeah i bet your right
[15:57] <ubuntu> well
[15:57] <holstein> just to make sure
[15:57] <ubuntu> i did
[15:57] <ubuntu> but apparently didnt know what i was looking for
[15:57] <holstein> hmmm
[15:57] <holstein> i always go by the size
[15:57] <holstein> the HD size
[15:58] <ubuntu> well
[15:58] <holstein> sometimes its hard to tell what is what by the labels
[15:58] <ubuntu> i made sure it was installed on the right drive
[15:58] <holstein> when the sizes are different
[15:58] <ubuntu> yeah i doublechecked in gparted to make sure it wouldnt overwrite my windows drive
[15:58] <ubuntu> but i didnt really look for grub info
[15:59] <holstein> AH
[15:59] <holstein> you mean in the partitioner
[15:59] <holstein> yeah
[15:59] <ubuntu> Anyway yeah ill try windows cd to fix bootloader to start with
[15:59] <holstein> ive wiped a lot of windows boot parts by accident ;)
[16:00] <holstein> i look there everytime now
[16:00] <holstein> saves some time
[16:00] <ubuntu> fixmbr and fixboot doesnt require reinstallation right?
[16:00] <ubuntu> true
[16:00] <holstein> AFAIK
[16:00] <holstein> fixmbr is what i used
[16:00] <holstein> that was back at XP
[16:00] <ubuntu> yeah i found a link by googling
[16:01] <ubuntu> and it says to use fixmbr and fixboot
[16:01] <ubuntu> trial and error :)
[16:01] <holstein> if you can get to a prompt
[16:01] <holstein> its not that hard
[16:01]  * saji89 Its google-Fu always to your rescue. :)
[16:02] <holstein> ubuntu: good luck
[16:02] <ubuntu> Thanks
[16:02]  * holstein BBL
[17:27] <ubuntu_> How do i make the installation process find my Hard drive if this doesn't happen automatically? :)
[17:45] <ubuntu_> Gparted can find the hard drive (with both partitions) but when i reach "Prepare partitions" in the installation process the window is blank..
[20:51] <jacob2> Hi, I'm trying to create logs with php to a dir in /var/www/logs, but i keep getting permissions denied: Warning: fopen(/var/www/logs/site/18-07-2010.log) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied
[20:51] <jacob2> I set the chown to jacob:www-data
[20:52] <jacob2> and the chmod is 755 on the folder
[20:52] <drubin> the folder needs to be 7 if you wish to create new files inside it. so (775) would be better
[20:58] <frank1_> trying to update to the most recent version of adobe flash for ubuntu. which format do i dl?
[20:59] <ridin> try doing sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:59] <ridin> or whatever it is
[21:00] <jacob2> drubin thx
[21:01] <frank1_> ridin thanks
[21:01] <drubin> jacob2: pleasure.
[21:02] <frank1_> any ideas why i cant stream a live webcast even with the most recient flash
[21:03] <frank1_> i click the play button in the flash link and it just goes black with a x through the play symbol
[21:04] <ridin> depends
[21:05] <ridin> what are you using to stream
[21:10] <frank1_> firefox
[21:11] <frank1_> if thats what your asking