[05:11] <kandarpk> lfaraone: around ?
[12:40] <dfarning> neeraj, good morning
[12:40] <neeraj> dfarning: good morning :)\
[12:40] <neeraj> dfarning: how are u ?
[12:40] <dfarning> neeraj, nice job getting the SRU accepted
[12:41] <neeraj> dfarning: all credit goes to lfaraone for being patient and explaining the things to me :)
[12:42] <dfarning> neeraj,  I am good, needed to take a break last night.... I need to find a pace I can sustain for the next couple of years without burning out:)
[12:42] <dfarning> neeraj, what is you plan for today?
[12:43] <neeraj> dfarning: I was planning to start reading about reading about networking(Background On Collaboration)..
[12:43] <dfarning> +1.
[12:44] <neeraj> dfarning: also I was waiting for lfaraone so that we can finish SRU task. (I am not sure whether I need do anything after uploading the patches on LP)
[12:45] <dfarning> neeraj, I am not sure either.
[12:49] <kandarpk> dfarning: Good Morning :)
[12:50] <dfarning> kandarpk, good morning, I was just emailing you:)
[12:50] <dfarning> I finally got the documentation build script to work correctly.
[12:50] <dfarning> kandarpk, how did you hacking go yesterday?
[12:51] <kandarpk> dfarning: didn't succeed but learnt more than I did on following the steps Luke provided
[12:52] <kandarpk> for packaging other activities
[12:52] <dfarning> kandarpk, +1
[12:53] <kandarpk> dfarning: I'll mail you, Manu sir the error reports and steps followed
[12:53] <dfarning> great,
[12:54] <dfarning> kandarpk, what do you have planned for today?
[12:54] <kandarpk> dfarning: will try to work on sunjammer
[12:55] <kandarpk> dfarning: is everything set up ?
[12:55] <kandarpk> dfarning: and D-Bus
[12:55] <dfarning> kandarpk,  I think so.
[12:55] <kandarpk> dfarning: what do I need to do ?
[12:55] <dfarning> kandarpk, It is now in production at /srv/www-sugarlabs/apimaster please delete the stuff in your home dir on Sunjammer.
[12:56] <dfarning> kandarpk, build-docs.sh is the build script that you need to run to rebuild the documentation -- it take about 20 minutes.
[12:57] <kandarpk> dfarning: I'll delete that.
[12:57] <kandarpk> dfarning: can we see the result online ?
[12:57] <dfarning> kandarpk, sphinxconf/ contains all of the .rst files and conf.py that you set up by hand.
[12:58] <kandarpk> dfarning: ok.
[12:58] <dfarning> kandarpk, results are at http://api.sugarlabs.org/
[12:59] <dfarning> kandarpk,  we need to ceate a nice index.html for that page.
[12:59] <dfarning> kandarpk, I fix the README file to reflect that changes.
[12:59] <kandarpk> dfarning: the sphinx documentation isn't there, its the epidocs one right now
[13:00] <dfarning> kandarpk, hmmm I modified so you can chose either type of documentaion from there.
[13:01] <kandarpk> dfarning: how can we do that ?
[13:01] <kandarpk> dfarning: to see HTML  pages generated by sphinx
[13:02] <dfarning> kandarpk, can you just click on the sphinx link?
[13:02] <dfarning> it will take you to
[13:02] <dfarning> http://api.sugarlabs.org/sphinx/
[13:04] <kandarpk> dfarning: I could not find the link
[13:05] <kandarpk> dfarning: anyways, what changes are required in index.html ?
[13:05] <kandarpk> dfarning: how should it look like ?
[13:07] <dfarning> kandarpk, I have not figure that out yet.... just a page to introduce and link to the two types of document.  The we can use the build script to put in in the correct place.
[13:07] <kandarpk> dfarning: Ok.
[13:10] <dfarning> kandarpk, are there things you want me to prepare or task to set up for the team?   I was going to create the next two colloboration lessons.... anything else right now?  I will probobly fall a 1.5 days behind while traveling so I need to get a bit ahead:)
[13:12] <kandarpk> dfarning: please mail me the steps I'll need to follow to modify the documentation as well
[13:12] <kandarpk> dfarning: I'll try to make some changes
[13:14] <dfarning> kandarpk, changes to the docstrings will require modifying the code, submitting a patch to sugar-devel, and rebuilding the documentation after the code has been committed.
[13:16] <dfarning> kandarpk, changes to the .rst stubs you make can be done directly in sphinxconf/
[13:16] <kandarpk> dfarning: Ok, thats nice.
[13:17] <kandarpk> dfarning: and where is the script that runs to build the pages ?
[13:17] <dfarning> kandarpk, It is now in production at /srv/www-sugarlabs/apimaster/build-docs.sh
[13:18] <kandarpk> dfarning: do I have the access to it ?
[13:19] <dfarning> kandarpk, I think so.  Just log into sunjammer and cd to that dir.... you are a member of the group apimaster.  I something does not work please let me know so I can fix the permissions.
[13:20] <kandarpk> dfarning: I am working on Debian right now.
[13:20] <kandarpk> dfarning: shall I let you know after sometime, if you'll be around ?
[13:21] <dfarning> kandarpk, ok, I'll try to be here for the next 5 hours.
[13:21] <kandarpk> dfarning: Ok, thats great :)
[13:22] <kandarpk> dfarning: I am following the steps to package sugar.
[13:22] <kandarpk> dfarning: will mail you the error reports soon.
[13:23] <dfarning> kandarpk, great. Do you use gmail?  I found it very handy when I started to switch between several OSs and computers!
[13:24] <kandarpk> dfarning: I have a gmail account gmail ( kandarp89 )
[13:25] <kandarpk> dfarning: how does it help in using different OSs ?
[13:27] <dfarning> kandarpk, As long as a browser work in the OS, gmail will work.  Often if I do something in one version of Ubuntu and need the result in another version, I just email it to myself as a file attachement.
[13:29] <kandarpk> dfarning: nice, that is what I do if I find some interesting links when working from some other machine.
[13:31] <kandarpk> dfarning: http://paste.ubuntu.com/465448/
[13:32] <kandarpk> dfarning: it has some steps I followed to package sugar
[13:32] <kandarpk> *initial steps
[13:34] <kandarpk> dfarning: now, running $ git merge upstream-release-tag gives:
[13:34] <kandarpk> fatal: 'upstream-release-tag' does not point to a commit
[13:34] <dfarning> kandarpk, I don't know... will have to ask luke or jonas
[13:35] <kandarpk> dfarning: Ok.
[13:45] <kandarpk> dfarning: why do we use -u here :
[13:45] <kandarpk> git-import-orig --pristine-tar --keyid=4AE3FF0B -u ''0.89'' ../sugar_0.89.1.orig.tar.bz2
[13:46] <kandarpk> upstream version ?
[14:19] <dfarning> kandarpk, I don't know:(
[14:19] <kandarpk> dfarning: np :)
[14:20] <dfarning> kandarpk, do you have tasks for everyone to work on?
[14:20] <kandarpk> dfarning: Manu sir is back, so we'll have no problems
[14:20] <dfarning> kandarpk, ok
[14:22] <kandarpk> *will be back after logging into USR.
[14:35] <kandarpk> dfarning: I need to remove all folders from my home dir. at sunjammer ?
[14:36] <dfarning> kandarpk,  I like to remove unused copies of stuff so I don't get confused.
[14:37] <kandarpk> dfarning: ok, everything except public_html
[14:37] <dfarning> kandarpk, +1
[14:37] <kandarpk> dfarning: by the way, the public_html still cant be accessed online
[14:38] <dfarning> kandarpk, bernie will be coming back from vacation today.... I'll ask him soon about that.
[14:38] <kandarpk> dfarning: thanks
[14:38] <kandarpk> rm: remove write-protected regular file `sphinx/sugar-jhbuild/.git/objects/pack/pack-34eb4c1e09a6167a3c8fbbf62264b7998494d0f0.pack'?
[14:39] <kandarpk> dfarning: maybe you ran sphinx ?
[14:40] <dfarning> kandarpk, yes, I ran jhbuild in your dir so you would not have to worrry about setting it up..... that is when I noticed that we would have to run in on a build machine.
[14:41] <dfarning> kandarpk, one moment I'll fix it.
[14:41] <kandarpk> dfarning: I'll delete it, just wanted to confirm
[14:42] <dfarning> kandarpk, all the permission should be fine.
[14:48] <kandarpk> dfarning: at what time will the automatic documentation generating script run ?
[14:51] <dfarning> kandarpk, I have not set up the cron job yet.... I would like to run it manually the first couple of times to make sure it works as expected.  When you are satisified that it workes, we can create a cron job to run once a day.
[14:51] <kandarpk> dfarning: running manually should be OK for now, as we haven't made the rst files yet
[15:04] <kandarpk> *I'll be back in 20 min
[15:36] <kandarpk> dfarning: may I run the script to see how it works ?
[15:37] <dfarning> kandarpk, sure.  It will just look like it is sitting there for between 10 and 30 minutes.  Then the command prompt will return.
[15:38] <kandarpk> dfarning: does it generates epydocs documentation too on changing .rst files ?
[15:40] <dfarning> kandarpk,  I am not sure what you mean by .rst files.  As I understand it the .rst stubs point to modules in the .py code.  and the changes to the docstrings will happen in the .py files.
[15:44] <kandarpk> dfarning: the format of .rst files/stubs present in sphinxconf directory decide the appearance/listing of various modules in the HTML pages
[15:45] <kandarpk> dfarning: for eg if we want to change the heading on http://api.sugarlabs.org/sphinx/
[15:45] <kandarpk> from sugar-activity to foo, we only need to change the index.rst
[15:46] <dfarning> kandarpk, yes every time the script is run it will copy the contents of sphinxconf/ to the buildmachine and merge them into the source tree.
[15:48] <kandarpk> dfarning: we can avoid generating epydoc documentation if only rst files are changed
[15:51] <dfarning> kandarpk, yes, go into the file api-remote.sh and put a comment # infront of the epydoc stuff at line 27 to 41
[15:51] <kandarpk> dfarning: Ok.
[15:53] <kandarpk> dfarning: I do not have write permissions
[15:54] <dfarning> kandarpk, :) one moment
[15:55] <dfarning> kandarpk, I added you.... I think.  Can you test.
[15:56] <kandarpk> dfarning: sure
[15:57] <kandarpk> dfarning: Found a swap file by the name ".api-remote.sh.swp"
[15:57] <dfarning> kandarpk, chose the option to delete it.
[15:58] <kandarpk> ok
[15:59] <kandarpk> dfarning: done
[16:00] <dfarning> kandarpk, and another userful thing is to comment out the two jhbuild lines if you are just testing formating stuff.
[16:01] <kandarpk> dfarning: hmmm, that is required to update the source
[16:01] <kandarpk> dfarning: wont be needed here
[16:02] <dfarning> kandarpk, yes that update the source but the .rst files are copied and merged in  a seperate step.
[16:03] <kandarpk> dfarning: hmmm
[16:03] <kandarpk> dfarning: you've already commented them ?
[16:04] <dfarning> kandarpk, I must have done that while testing:)
[16:05] <kandarpk> dfarning: permission denied due to rsync
[16:05] <kandarpk> dfarning: http://paste.ubuntu.com/465500/
[16:08] <dfarning> kandarpk, Ok I screwed something up.
[16:08] <kandarpk> dfarning: wait
[16:09] <kandarpk> dfarning: I have stopped jobs, what does that mean ?
[16:09] <kandarpk> I had used Ctrl-Z to stop ./build-docs.sh
[16:10] <kandarpk> dfarning: I can't logout now :(
[16:10] <dfarning> kandarpk, you will need to type exit twice.
[16:12] <dfarning> kandarpk, please see http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml under process control
[16:13] <dfarning> Ctrl-Z puts a job in the background and Ctrl-C stops it.  (usually)
[16:14] <kandarpk> dfarning: ok, one of my friends didn't had this knowledge.
[16:15] <kandarpk> dfarning: now I am sure I do not have the permissions
[16:15] <dfarning> kandarpk, does ctrl-Z stop jobs in windows? I hit it instead of ctrl-C by mistake.
[16:16] <kandarpk> dfarning: not sure.
[16:17] <dfarning> kandarpk, yes, I have to figure out how to give you authorization to switch users to apimaster to run the script.  It depends on using apimasters ssh key to establish the connection to the remote build machine.
[16:18] <kandarpk> dfarning: Ok.
[16:18] <kandarpk> dfarning: by the way, Ctrl-Z on windows is EOF.
[16:20] <kandarpk> dfarning: does that mean that only few users can execute the script ?
[16:20] <kandarpk> dfarning: right now, it must be only you ?
[16:21] <dfarning> kandarpk, yes, I had though that anyone in the apimaster group could execute the script... I made it group executable.... but I forgot about the ssh connection.
[16:23] <dfarning> kandarpk, because it uses, ssh only the user 'apimaster' can run the script.  I need to figure that out.
[16:23] <kandarpk> dfarning: why do we need a remote authentication using ssh ?
[16:25] <dfarning> kandarpk, because the build process is complicated, CPU intensive, and error prone we don't want to run it on sunjammer the primary server.  Instead we pass the job a remote build machine.
[16:27] <kandarpk> dfarning: and pass the identity of the primary server along ?
[16:29] <dfarning> kandarpk, we pass the identity of the apimaster user because there is no way to machines in the Sugar Labs without ssh.  It is a system wide security measure.
[16:30] <dfarning> ^^no way to log into machines
[16:30] <kandarpk> dfarning: got it
[16:31] <dfarning> kandarpk, I need to ask bernie how to set this up so that the documentation team can switch users to apimaster.
[16:34] <kandarpk> dfarning: np
[16:34] <dfarning> kandarpk, he is in the air so I won't be able to fix it for a couple of hours.  Usually, I just try things and see if they work, but when it come to security I try to ask an expert before I start changing random stuff:)
[16:37] <kandarpk> dfarning: please let me know when I can start working on it.
[16:37] <kandarpk> dfarning: I should be here for next 3 hrs.
[16:37] <dfarning> kandarpk, ok.
[16:39] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: around ?
[16:43] <kandarpk> dfarning: why do connection names in D-Bus and telepathy represent a path like /org/freedesktop/Telepathy/Connection/cm/proto/account
[16:43] <bernie> dfarning: I'm around. what do you need?
[16:43] <kandarpk> bernie: hi
[16:43] <bernie> dfarning: (boarding on a plane to sao paolo soonish)
[16:43] <bernie> in 1h
[16:43] <bernie> kandarpk: oi!
[16:44] <bernie> kandarpk: regarding your question... it's an odd naming convention established by the original dbus designers. quite ugly if you ask me.
[16:45] <kandarpk> bernie: I thought it was something regarding file locations as we cannot pass pointers.
[16:46] <kandarpk> my assumptions will ruin me!
[16:47] <bernie> kandarpk: pointers as in C pointers to memory locations?
[16:47] <bernie> kandarpk: it's generally not possible with any IPC mechanism
[16:48] <bernie> kandarpk: because the virtual address space of one process is totally disjoint from those of other processes
[16:48] <kandarpk> bernie: yes, I understand that pointers are not an option
[16:48] <bernie> kandarpk: what do you need to pass? and for what purpose?
[16:49] <kandarpk> bernie: how does this location-like connection name help in identifying the object ?
[16:49] <kandarpk> bernie: I have the understanding that we pass these names along with the messages
[16:50] <kandarpk> correct me if I am wrong
[16:50] <bernie> kandarpk: it's a unique name.   it's usually a reverse internet domain name of whover designed the dbus client, followed by the name and other internal stuff
[16:50] <bernie> kandarpk: dbus clients usually provide documentation about their internal structure: objects, methods, parameters, etc.
[16:51] <bernie> kandarpk: yes, you use the dbus paths along with parameters. it looks like some kind of Remote Procedure Calll mechanism
[16:51] <bernie> kandarpk: to experiment quickly, there's a dbus-send command line tool
[16:52] <bernie> kandarpk: anything you could do from python, you can also do from the command line, faster.
[16:52] <kandarpk> bernie: great.
[16:53] <kandarpk> bernie: can you please provide links to some tutorials where D-Bus codes are used for explanation instead of theory about its working
[16:54] <bernie> kandarpk: full documentation of dbus is here: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus
[16:55] <bernie> kandarpk: I suggest skimming through the docs and then looking for the specific docs of the client you want to talk with
[16:55] <bernie> kandarpk: whic is...?
[16:55] <kandarpk> bernie: actually I've just started to study about D-Bus right now
[16:55] <kandarpk> nothing specific
[16:57] <kandarpk> bernie: and about the problem dfarning and I were having in running the script build-docs.sh at /srv/www-sugarlabs/apimaster on sunjammer
[16:58] <kandarpk> bernie: ssh verification is done to run the script on a remote machine
[16:59] <kandarpk> bernie: dfarning has made the script group executable but I still do not have permission to run it due to rsync
[16:59] <dfarning> bernie, how do I set up sudoers so kandarpk can run a script as the user apimaster?
[17:01] <dfarning> kandarpk,  I need to get lunch. will be back soon.
[17:01] <kandarpk> dfarning: sure :)
[17:04] <manusheel> kandarpk: Yes, I am around.
[17:14] <bernie> dfarning: where's the script?
[17:21] <bernie> dfarning: is kandarpk in group apimaster?
[17:21] <bernie> dfarning: yes he is
[17:23] <bernie> dfarning: I did not change anything, it works already: if I become kandarpk and type: "sudo -u apimaster ls" , the command gets executed as user apimaster
[17:23] <bernie> dfarning: note: you can't use sudo over a non-interactive ssh session
[17:23] <bernie> kandarpk: ^
[17:30] <kandarpk> bernie: I do not have root privilages
[17:30] <kandarpk> bernie: I think that is why I am not able to run the script
[17:31] <kandarpk> bernie: the errors I am getting on running the script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/465500/
[17:33] <bernie> kandarpk: you don't need root privileges for "suso -u apimaster" from your user
[17:34] <kandarpk> bernie: sorry, my fault, read suso as sudo :(
[17:38] <kandarpk> bernie: what command do I need to use to run /srv/www-sugarlabs/apimaster/build-docs.sh ?
[17:39] <kandarpk> running suso -u apimaster gives
[17:39] <kandarpk> -bash: suso: command not found
[17:44] <bernie> kandarpk: sorry, my typo. it's "sudo", but you don't need to be root because there's a line in /etc/sudoers allowing members of group apimaster to become user apimaster
[17:44] <bernie> kandarpk: try this: sudo -u apimaster /srv/www-sugarlabs/apimaster/build-docs.sh
[17:45] <kandarpk> bernie: perfect :)
[17:45] <kandarpk> bernie: thanks.
[17:49] <kandarpk> dfarning: Do we know the relative location of python source files ( under sugar-jhbuild ) ?
[17:50] <kandarpk> dfarning: *relative to index.rst
[17:50] <kandarpk> it is required to show the source codes.
[17:58] <kandarpk> dfarning: in case I am not online, path used in activity_src.rst.
[18:01] <kandarpk> bernie: around ?
[18:02] <dfarning> bernie, thanks
[18:05] <dfarning> bernie, I arrive  tuesday afternoon.  I will send my itinerary to you and rgs_ tomorrow morning.  I bought the ticket through orbitz (my first time) and they have change the intinary twice:)
[18:05] <dfarning> kandarpk, did the script work correctly?
[18:05] <kandarpk> dfarning: yes
[18:05] <kandarpk> :)
[18:06] <kandarpk> dfarning: by the way, most part of the script is commented out right now
[18:07] <dfarning> kandarpk, great now we need to figure out the relative paths.  do you have sugar-jhbuild installed on a local machine?
[18:07] <dfarning> kandarpk, :) it must run pretty fast.
[18:07] <kandarpk> dfarning: took like 2 min.
[18:07] <kandarpk> dfarning: yes, I have jhbuild installed
[18:09] <dfarning> kandarpk, I set it up so the .rst files are in sugar-jhbuild/install/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar
[18:10] <kandarpk> dfarning: didn't get that
[18:11] <kandarpk> dfarning: you have changed the location in activity_src.rst ?
[18:11] <dfarning> kandarpk, see http://pastebin.org/402871
[18:13] <dfarning> the contents of sphinxconf/ are copied to  sugar-jhbuild/install/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar
[18:14] <kandarpk> dfarning: we don't need to do that
[18:14] <dfarning> kandarpk, where do you want them?
[18:14] <kandarpk> dfarning: open activity_src.rst
[18:17] <kandarpk> dfarning: to show the source code in HTML pages, the path mentioned in it is to be changed
[18:17] <dfarning> kandarpk, the way you had it set up we had to manually copy the modules each time we updated from git.
[18:18] <kandarpk> dfarning: aren't the codes stored on the same machine ?
[18:21] <dfarning> kandarpk, if you want you can move them? or else just remove the '../src' from the begining of each path.
[18:23] <dfarning> kandarpk, line 25 of api-remote.sh copies the contents of the sphinxconf/ dir.
[18:23] <dfarning> neeraj, how are you coming?
[18:24] <neeraj> dfarning: I did went through the links
[18:24] <neeraj> dfarning: But i will take some time in completely understanding all things
[18:24] <kandarpk> dfarning: I am not sure how much I understood that
[18:25] <dfarning> neeraj, for colloboration?
[18:25] <neeraj> dfarning: I was reading about details of D-BUS
[18:26] <dfarning> neeraj, we will start looking at code examples soon so it will make more sense.
[18:26] <neeraj> I read the floss-manual which just give a overview of it.
[18:26] <neeraj> dfarning: brb,, helping ankur with deb file testing on debian
[18:29] <dfarning> kandarpk, activity_src.rst  it looks in the dir '../src/activity/activity.py' by copying the .rst files to the sugar/ dir all you need is 'activity/activity.py' in the path
[18:29] <kandarpk> dfarning: will the script still work ?
[18:32] <dfarning> kandarpk,  it should. As long as the the path in the .rst file points to the correct .py file it will work.
[18:32] <kandarpk> wont it read rst files from sphinxconf ?
[18:36] <dfarning> kandarpk, see line 44 of api-remote.  It is running sphinx directly from sugar-jhbuild/install/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar
[18:39] <kandarpk> dfarning: have you changed the script or it was same before as well /
[18:39] <kandarpk> ?
[18:42] <dfarning> There was not a script before.... I based it on the instructions you sent.  I don't remember where the code was relative to the .rst files in you instructions.
[18:43] <kandarpk> dfarning: let me check if it works
[18:57] <kandarpk> dfarning: it works :)
[19:58] <kandarpk> dfarning: good night
[19:59] <manusheel> dfarning, kandarpk: Great.
[19:59] <manusheel> Glad to hear.
[19:59] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: hi
[20:00] <kandarpk> I was about to leave.
[20:00] <manusheel> kandarpk: So, we are all set with the system, right?
 kandarpk: So, we are all set with the system, right?
[20:02] <manusheel> kandarpk: I wrote this at the same time when you left.
[20:02] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: yes sir
[20:03] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: running the script does generate the desired output :)
[20:04] <manusheel> kandarpk: That is simply wonderful. So, now our focus will be on doc strings, right? Will you like to try inserting a test doc string, and see if we get the output in the desired format.
[20:04] <manusheel> ?*
[20:04] <manusheel> kandarpk: Very neat.
[20:04] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: let me check if I can find where the source code is placed
[20:04] <manusheel> kandarpk: So, now we can focus on core modules, sub-modules, their classes, variables, etc.
[20:04] <manusheel> kandarpk: sure.
[20:08] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: Sir, I think the source is placed on some remote machine
[20:09] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: but changing the rst files do changes the output HTML pages
[20:11] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: dfarning should know more about it.
[20:11] <manusheel> kandarpk: That is unfortunate.
[20:12] <manusheel> So, changing the rst files is not changing the output of HTML pages?
[20:13] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: it is changing the HTML
[20:13] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: but I have access to rst files only, so cant change the docstrings
[20:14] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok, that means you cannot insert docstrings?
[20:14] <manusheel> kandarpk: This access is important to us.
[20:14] <manusheel> kandarpk: Without this, we'll not be able to add explanation for classes, variables and methods.
[20:15] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: hmmm.
[20:15] <manusheel> kandarpk: Did you try inserting the test doc string, and it said permission denied?
[20:16] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: sir, the script made by dfarning runs on a remote machine
[20:16] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: and it seems the source is present on that system
[20:16] <kandarpk> REMOTESRV="140.186.70.115"
[20:16] <kandarpk> REMOTEACCT="dfarning"
[20:18] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok.
[20:19] <manusheel> Thank you.
[20:19] <manusheel> kandarpk: Will discuss this, and get back to you soon.
[20:19] <manusheel> kandarpk: Should be easy to work upon. We just need access to source machine.
[20:19] <manusheel> We can insert doc strings from there.
[20:20] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: yes sir.
[20:23] <manusheel> kandarpk: Great.
[20:23] <manusheel> kandarpk: Will get back to you soon on this.
[20:23] <manusheel> kandarpk: Was Luke around today?
[20:24] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: No sir, he couldn't come.
[20:25] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok, absolutely fine, Kandarp. We'll touch base with him tomorrow on sugar-base and sugar core packages.
[20:25] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: sure, my error report is ready
[20:26] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok, great. Are you comfortable going through it?
[20:26] <manusheel> kandarpk: Send me the logs too.
[20:26] <manusheel> kandarpk: Let me go through it, today night.
[20:26] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: I am not sure if the steps I followed were correct
[20:27] <manusheel> kandarpk: Please write the steps in a txt document too.
[20:27] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: it was all hit and trial.
[20:27] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok.
[20:27] <kandarpk> mailing you.
[20:27] <manusheel> kandarpk: Still, send me the steps, and I'll have a look.
[20:36] <kandarpk> manusheel, manusheel_ sir: I should leave now.
[20:38] <kandarpk> was waiting for dfarning to come.
[20:39] <manusheel_> kandarpk: Sure.
[20:39] <manusheel_> Take good night rest, and you can start working tomorrow.
[20:39] <kandarpk> manusheel_ sir, neeraj : Good night.
[20:40] <manusheel_> kandarpk: I think you forgot
[20:40] <manusheel_> to attach the logs.
[20:40] <manusheel_> kandarpk: Good night.
[20:40] <neeraj> kandarpk sir, good night
[20:40] <kandarpk> manusheel_ sir: the file has the commands run and the output generated
[20:41] <kandarpk> manusheel_ sir: will that be ok ?
[20:41] <manusheel_> kandarpk: Sure.
[20:42] <kandarpk> Good night.
[20:42] <manusheel_> I think that is perfectly alright, and easier to browse too.
[20:42] <manusheel_> kandarpk: Good night.
[21:25] <dfarning> manu ping
[23:12] <lfaraone> dfarning: neeraj doesn't need to do anything.
[23:12] <dfarning> lfaraone, :) what is on his task list?
[23:12] <lfaraone> dfarning: not sure.
[23:12] <lfaraone> dfarning: but the SRU has been fixed.
[23:13] <lfaraone> dfarning: should I have him investigate the issues Edward Cherlin (sp?) reported with flipsticks, log, and sliderpuzzle in Lucid?
[23:13] <dfarning> lfaraone, Ahh I misunderstood.
[23:14] <lfaraone> dfarning: once he submitted the patches, I applied them to the package, uploaded to ubuntu's ftp archive, and am currently waiting for archive admin / ubuntu-sru approval.
[23:16] <dfarning> lfaraone, how about having neeraj work on getting the process of syncing the Debian packages in to 10.10?  Then we will try to backport the from 10.10 to 10.04.
[23:17] <lfaraone> dfarning: if you think that's useful, sure. He'll need to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess (using "requestsync"), and learn how to test packages in pbuilder.
[23:18] <dfarning> lfaraone, do you think there is a better process?
[23:18] <lfaraone> dfarning: nah. the alternative is to have me do it :)
[23:19] <lfaraone> dfarning: I (or another MOTU) will still have to review his requests. The review will be very easy if he includes a build log (from using pbuilder to build the package), since then I won't have to try and build the package myself.
[23:19] <lfaraone> dfarning: should I write an email explaining how to do so?
[23:19] <dfarning> lfaraone, yep.  Let's have neeraj start on that.
[23:20] <dfarning> lfaraone, yes please.
[23:20] <dfarning> lfaraone, but be sure that you don't cross post it:)
[23:20] <lfaraone> dfarning: yessir.
[23:21] <dfarning> lfaraone, how the the reviews/ fixes coming?
[23:21] <lfaraone> dfarning: I've been on vacation this weekend, so I haven't had a chance to do anything since Friday morning.
[23:21] <dfarning> lfaraone, I think that you and jonas spending time together at debconf will be great.
[23:22] <lfaraone> dfarning: and this afternoon we have a family cookout, so although I'll try to get some stuff done today the first time I'll really be "online" and focused will be tomorrow morning.
[23:22] <lfaraone> dfarning: yeah. as soon as I get my schedule together,  I'll talk to him about some sit-down time.
[23:22] <dfarning> lfaraone, What did you do fore vacation?
[23:22] <lfaraone> dfarning: I'm in Rhode Island for the next two weeks. We spent today at the beach getting sunburned :)
[23:23] <dfarning> lfaraone, I expect that he will want to spend much of the allocated hacking time with you.
[23:24] <lfaraone> dfarning: yeah. if I had known we'd be able to get so much work done, I would have attended DebCamp as well. (the week before DebConf)
[23:24] <dfarning> lfaraone, nice.  I have been finding it really enjoyable to work remotely while traveling.
[23:24] <dfarning> lfaraone, is it too late for Debcamp?
[23:25] <lfaraone> dfarning: well, yes. apart from the whole "you're on vacation!" aspect, I'd have to get to NYC and fund myself the entire time. The conference is funding my lodgings and food while at the Conf. proper.
[23:26] <dfarning> lfaraone, I did realize it was so soon:)
[23:27] <lfaraone> dfarning: heh. Camp is the last week of July, Conf the following. Feature Freeze is sometime early next month. Brace for a exception! :)
[23:28] <dfarning> lfaraone, If we keep the same learning rate going for the next two weeks.  August should be very productive.
[23:34] <lfaraone> well, duty calls. I'll send off a quick email then I'm off. See you tomorrow morning.