[00:00] <hqb> your said english
[00:00] <Phantomas> DasEi: so, is /proc/cpuinfo showing wrong info?
[00:00] <Cheery> Hi, I got a new update to chromium-browser today, though it wasn't ripe at all!
[00:00] <Cheery> missing the new zoom/paste -dialogs and it has broken websocket
[00:01] <Barridus> gnome isn't letting me into a windows share on another box now, it used to work.  still works from other windows machines.  help please, no idea where to begin looking for the problem
[00:01] <obst|Brot> thx
[00:01] <obst|Brot> works this with macosx too?
[00:02] <DasEi> Phantomas: no, it doesn't , as this are the abilitys of the cpu , well set different on amd and intel ..
[00:02] <NCS_One> is there a movie player that doesnt shows the subtitles over the image ? but over the bottom black bar
[00:02] <Jack_CM> notte a tutti
[00:02] <Daughain> WHich is better to install VB, CLI or software center?
[00:03] <Phantomas> DasEi: and what the ht flag means for amd cpus?
[00:03] <Mr_Sonoma> Daughain, depends on your comfort level with each
[00:04] <Afrix> 10.04 use ext3 or ext4?
[00:04] <DasEi> Phantomas: but the thing you minded is right so far, as only newer Intels support the 2x /core output, the flag shows they also profit from hyperthreading tasks
[00:04] <Daughain> I dont care which I use, I just remember one as being better for the install.....
[00:04] <Mead> anyone know of a good resource for ubuntu on ARM based hardware?
[00:04] <DasEi> Phantomas: ask in #hardware for more
[00:05] <Phantomas> found that ht for amds is hyper transport
[00:05] <Phantomas> hyper whatever :) ... anyway! Thank you all
[00:06] <hqb> do you speak chinese
[00:06] <tensorpudding> Mead: try #ubuntu-arm
[00:06] <Mead> thanks
[00:07] <hqb> who answer me question
[00:07] <DasEi> !cn
[00:07] <NCS_One> is there a movie player that doesnt shows the subtitles over the image ? but over the bottom black bar
[00:07] <DasEi> NCS_One: vlc
[00:08] <hqb> thanks
[00:09] <NCS_One> DasEi: how ? I already tryed it and it doesnt put the subtitles on the black bar
[00:09] <Mahjongg> hello, is it possible to change dns server settings without "not using dhcp"?
[00:10] <DasEi> NCS_One: you can set the position under extras>settings>osd or such, it's in the menue
[00:10] <Barridus> gnome isn't letting me into a windows share on another box now, it used to work.  still works from other windows machines.  help please, no idea where to begin looking for the problem
[00:11] <maheanuu> Enter text here...IaOrana, I am having a heck of a problem trying to move music to an iTouch from Lucid 10.04 I cannot seem to mount the Itouch but it is showing on the desktop
[00:11] <DasEi> Mahjongg: without not ? anyway, /etc/resolv.conf
[00:11] <hqb> i want learn english
[00:12] <DasEi> hqb:try #defocus, this is a technical channel
[00:12] <hqb> nnh
[00:12] <hqb> ......
[00:12] <violinappren> !cn | hqb
[00:13] <underdev> hi.  I installed a proglang that is newer than any of the ubuntu supported versions.  How do i make it so that it is default version of the lang? (tcl/tclsh/wish fwiw)
[00:13] <violinappren> Mahjongg: you can change them in network manager
[00:14] <underdev> in the past i've make links to /opt/tclsh, but i would like it to be THE DEFAULT tclsh, and not just from my bash prompt
[00:14] <underdev> so i don't think an alias in .bash_aliases would work
[00:15] <hqb> 好多都看不明白
[00:15] <optikalmouse> HELP ME
[00:15] <optikalmouse> I CAN'T SWITCH FOCUS!
[00:15] <optikalmouse> the window is stuck on emacs, I can't alt-tab! :(
[00:15] <maheanuu> I am running gtkpod manager and cannot for the life of me set the mount point
[00:15] <optikalmouse> I can't even click on another window to focus it :S
[00:16] <DasEi> maheanuu: does lsub find it ?
[00:16] <IdleOne> hqb: Please type /join #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to chat in English, this channel is for ubuntu tech support
[00:16] <violinappren> underdev: is tcl linked through an alternative ? as in update-alternatives
[00:16] <optikalmouse> I need help, I can't alt-tab to anything else :S
[00:16] <underdev> violinappren: no, but that's probably enough info for me to figure it out.  Thanks!'
[00:16] <violinappren> !patience | optikalmouse
[00:17] <violinappren> underdev: you're welcome
[00:17] <maheanuu> Das, I am so new, I will look and see what is the command line for Isub?
[00:17] <underdev> optikalmouse: if my mom called me with that problem, i'd tell her to reboot
[00:17] <optikalmouse> violinappren: that's hilarious. I can't even focus on the web browser window to read that. thanks.
[00:17] <violinappren> maheanuu: lsusb?
[00:17] <optikalmouse> underdev: I'm not using Windows. I'm not going to reboot ;)
[00:17] <DasEi> maheanuu: open a terminal ..
[00:17] <IdleOne> optical: try ctrl-alt-tab
[00:18] <IdleOne> optikalmouse: : try ctrl-alt-tab
[00:18] <underdev> you're using gnome.  same difference :)
[00:18] <violinappren> optikalmouse: switch to a virtual terminal and kill X
[00:18] <NCS_One> DasEi: I cant do it :(
[00:18] <violinappren> optikalmouse: or just kill metacity
[00:18] <DasEi> maheanuu: lsusb                  << is your pod listed there ?
[00:19] <DasEi> NCS_One: you came to the undertitel-settings-screen ? at the bottom there is force position of it
[00:21] <Daughain> Does anyone know where VirtualBox installs to?
[00:22] <ulianov> alguien habla español
[00:22] <violinappren> !es | ulianov
[00:22] <violinappren> Daughain: dpkg --listfiles
[00:22] <ulianov> gracias
[00:22] <Daughain> violinappren: Thanks.
[00:25] <DasEi> NCS_One: also kmplayer has this ability, in generall if the subtitle is plexed with the stream, it will alway occur, not so if it's a seperate one (that means you can also turn it on/off)
[00:26] <saxonjf> I'm using OOo, and the buttons are just huge?  Is there anything that can be done about that?
[00:26] <NCS_One> DasEi: I have forced the subtitle position to 300 and -300 and it doesnt move :(
[00:27] <DasEi> NCS_One: did you try if you can enable/disable them ?
[00:27] <saxonjf> I want the buttons; I just want them smaller...
[00:28] <Bridge|A> is there anyway to force ubuntu to install even after it "thinks" theres a bad CD or HDD
[00:28] <violinappren> saxonjf: check theming in the options dialog?
[00:29] <saxonjf> violinappren I am in options, but don't see themes
[00:30] <jaes> hi
[00:30] <bogdomania> saxonjf, try while in OO Word :  Tools->Options(at the bottom)->View->Icon size and style
[00:30] <violinappren> !hi | jaes
[00:30] <jaes> does someone knows how to change the frequency of display of only one of my monitors ?
[00:31] <NCS_One> DasEi: I tryed 1000 and it placed the subtitles in the top of the movie, then I tryed -1000 and it went to the bottom of the movie, all this still on the image
[00:31] <violinappren> jaes: that's usually done using the monitor buttons next to power on/off
[00:31] <saxonjf> that did it.  Thanks.  Another question.  I tried an extension or plug in for weblog stuff.  I deleted the plugin, but the buttons won't go away.  Any Ideas there?
[00:32] <bogdomania> saxonjf, no ideea.. sorry
[00:33] <saxonjf> all right, thanks anyway... it looks much better with smaller buttons
[00:33] <Vooloo> is there a good weather desktop app that supports europe countries?
[00:33] <jaes> violinappren: in fact, i'm on my laptop and when i plug a crt on it the display is all wavy, and after few searches i figure the frequency of display of my video card is wrong
[00:33] <violinappren> Vooloo: gnome's clock has a weather indicator
[00:33] <DasEi> NCS_One: so aspect-ratio is set right and there is no remaining space ? try kmplayer then, there was an option over/below image in it's settings
[00:33] <saxonjf> the weather report panel app should work
[00:33] <jaes> violinappren: but i don't have any option on my monitor to change the frequency of display
[00:34] <Vooloo> violinappren: yeah but I want somethnig more, that I can use on the desktop
[00:34] <saxonjf> where in E. Europe vooloo?
[00:34] <violinappren> jaes: try you try changing the refresh rate? preferences > monitor
[00:34] <Vooloo> violinappren: possibly with forecast, like on the iphone
[00:35] <Vooloo> saxonjf: sweden
[00:35] <violinappren> Vooloo: search "weather" in software center
[00:35] <saxonjf> which major city are you near?
[00:35] <Vooloo> saxonjf: gothenburg
[00:36] <maheanuu> I am seeing a line "ID 05ac: 1293 Apple, INC.
[00:36] <jaes> violinappren: the only frequency proposed are not giving good results, i was thinking of a way to change it manually (by typing the frequency by myself, or something like that)
[00:36] <saxonjf> I've been to gothenberg Germany.  But I see Goteberg, Sweden
[00:36] <saxonjf> Are you using gnome?
[00:36] <maheanuu> Sorry for the hold up, had my grandson stop by for a box of wood screws for my daughter
[00:37] <Vooloo> saxonjf: yeah the clock works but it is not with forecast
[00:37] <violinappren> jaes: i don't think it's a good idea as the driver lists the frequencies the monitor can support, other values may damage it
[00:37] <Vooloo> saxonjf: I can look out to see current weather..
[00:37] <maffydoit> We have a computer, was windows, we installed ubuntu. It worked well for several months, but once in a while the screen would blank out. The computer was still on, the lights on the computer box are still on, but I can't get the screen to show anything. In the last couple of days, it now does this a couple of times a day. I have to hit the computer off switch, do a shut down, and reboot. Any help?
[00:37] <maheanuu> It is really rough when you are the only one in 150 miles that is using Ubuntu or any kind of linux
[00:37] <saxonjf> right-click the panel and choose "Add to panel"
[00:37] <Mahjongg> violinappren, using network manager, in order to change the dns I have to disable the dhcp
[00:38] <fade_> how do you setup /etc/nsswitch.conf to enable LAN hostname lookups without killing regular interned DNS lookups?
[00:38] <violinappren> Mahjongg: no you don't have to
[00:38] <Mahjongg> violinappren, I do not want to change the dhcp setting
[00:38] <Mahjongg> violinappren, talking about eth or wireless
[00:38] <fade_> wired LAN, ubtuntu 10.04
[00:38] <violinappren> Mahjongg: yes, you don't have to change anything other than in network manager's GUI
[00:39] <jaes> violinappren: argh, thank you anyway then
[00:39] <Mahjongg> violinappren, oh I see there is also a dhcp auto addresses only
[00:39] <Mahjongg> thanks
[00:39] <Vooloo> saxonjf: cant find forecast on that either
[00:39] <maffydoit> what is the ubuntu equivalent to windows control-alt-delete to bring up the system menus again?
[00:39] <violinappren> Mahjongg: you're welcome
[00:40] <violinappren> maffydoit: alt + f1
[00:40] <chrissharp123> maffydoit: you may be able to do Ctrl-Alt-F1
[00:40] <saxonjf> vooloo look for "weather report'
[00:40] <chrissharp123> maffydoit: then log in via virtual terminal (command line) and do "sudo service gdm restart"
[00:41] <DasEi> maheanuu: pm you is fine ?
[00:41] <maffydoit> tried control-alt-f1, but i'll try alt-f1. thanks.
[00:41] <chrissharp123> maffydoit: (assuming you're on karmic or lucid)
[00:41] <maheanuu> Yes
[00:41] <Vooloo> saxonjf: Forecast not currently available for this location.
[00:42] <violinappren> Vooloo: there are google desktop and opera widgets that do weather forecast, check them out
[00:42] <saxonjf> But the "weather report" app should have you choose cities from a list...
[00:42] <Vooloo> saxonjf: yes but it only shows CURRENT weather
[00:42] <underdev> hi!  i was wondering if someone that has installed tcl can tell me whether tclsh and wish are listed in /etc/alternatives?
[00:43] <saxonjf> How long have you had the app working?
[00:43] <saxonjf> Sometimes the forcast doesn't work for a couple hours.
[00:43] <Vooloo> saxonjf: I see, well I'll let it stay on and see what happends
[00:44] <Vooloo> violinappren: yeah really dont like google tho :S
[00:44] <violinappren> underdev: if they are not listed there, than they don't utilize the alternative system, you may add it yourself (there's a GUI, galternatives) but i THINK wish was actually installed as an alternative
[00:44] <underdev> violinappren: ty
[00:44] <mains_power> Does Ubuntu support HDMI?
[00:45] <mains_power> Does Ubuntu support HDMI monitors?
[00:45] <violinappren> !hardware | mains_power
[00:46] <skumara> what sync software to use to sync windoes mobile HTC phone contact and calender to ubunthu?
[00:48] <skumara> hi
[00:48] <violinappren> !hi | skumara
[00:49] <Barridus> can i like restart gnome-keyring without rebooting?  (i removed the saved keyrings for troubleshooting)
[00:50] <skumara> what software to use to sync htc phone with windows mobile to evolution?
[00:50] <violinappren> Barridus: kill gnome-keyring-daemon ?
[00:50] <violinappren> !patience | skumara
[00:51] <coz_> guys on this fresh install   with nvidia    firefox bookmarks are scrolling "Extrememly" slowly   ...any solutions?
[00:51] <Barridus> violinappren, then just run gnome-keyring-daemon again?
[00:51] <violinappren> Barridus: yes, gnome-keyring-daemon --help
[00:52] <violinappren> coz_: check /var/log/Xorg.log.0 to find out which driver is being selected for your card
[00:52] <coz_> violinappren,   I believe nvidia but yes I will check now
[00:54] <duckx0r> wouldn't looking in /etc/X11/xorg.con be easier?
[00:54] <coz_> violinappren,  it's nvidia
[00:54] <violinappren> coz_: pastebin the log
[00:55] <DasEi>  duckx0r:it's empty by default since ibex
[00:55] <Barridus> violinappren, cool thanks.  doesn't appear what i was trying to do worked though (wipe out saved password for nautilus' access to a windows share)
[00:56] <bastidrazor> DasEi: i was having dns issues it seems.
[00:56] <coz_> violinappren,     http://pastebin.com/xj2cBq9q
[00:56] <duckx0r> DasEi, mine's not empty. how do you set your video card then?
[00:56] <violinappren> Barridus: could be cached somehow in memory, kill nautilus ? lol
[00:56] <DasEi> bastidrazor: solved now ? used another dns server ? strange still , though..
[00:57] <DasEi>  duckx0r:it's empty by default , but still can be configured (as propitarys do), it went to the kernel
[00:58] <bastidrazor> DasEi: the box i just did a fresh install of 10.04 was my dns resolver. i had yet to install unbound and all other boxes were confused by its lack of resolving. strange that the freshly installed box had issues though. dns settings were correct
[00:58] <Barridus> in fact, violinappren, lol i'm just gonna reboot (was trying to avoid annoying everyone in a few channels with multiple join/parts)
[00:58] <violinappren> Barridus: just logout
[00:59] <skumara> synce is said tobe for previous version of ubuntu. is the any software for current version lucid ubuntu to sync wm 6.1
[00:59] <coz_> violinappren,  as you can see nvidia is being used  and this firefox issue  with nvidia occurs unreliably frequently...not always  only sometimes
[01:00] <Zambz> hey guys, i'm using ubuntu 10.04 on my Dell with an ATI card and official ATI drivers installed and am having an issue with AVI video playback in Totem Movie Player, basically the blacks are dark grey instead of black and the whites are bright grey, so the picture is quite dull
[01:01] <Zambz> any ideas how to fix this?  had the same issue in windows 7 on my desktop PC and had to set my colour range from Limited 16-235 to Full 0-255, but have no idea how to do that with the ATI + Ubuntu
[01:01] <Zambz> colour range = dynamic range (sorry got the terms confused)
[01:02] <DasEi> Zambz: try vlc ?
[01:02] <duckx0r> skumara, does this help you with your htc phone? http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=55209
[01:02] <tensorpudding> is there still a way to make desktop backgrounds change automatically after a given period of time?
[01:03] <Zambz> DasEi: will do
[01:04] <Zambz> must admit that i love totem, but will try vlc to see what happens
[01:04] <siddhion> hello. i am using xubuntu 10.04. i am able to select multiple items on the desktop but when i attempt to move them, only one gets moved. is there a fix?
[01:05] <Zambz> i better go for now guys, will report back with info later on
[01:05] <Zambz> have a good one
[01:05] <Zambz> ;)
[01:05] <violinappren> tensorpudding: omgubuntu.co.uk had an article for that
[01:09] <tensorpudding> violinappren: what was the article? it's hard to find
[01:10] <seanh> badblocks
[01:11] <violinappren> tensorpudding: googling "site:omgubuntu.co.uk wallpaper" -> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/crebs-ultimate-wallpaper-slideshow.html
[01:12] <DNS777> hey any1 has an asus eee 1000he netbook and internet/network working proper?
[01:15] <fbravo> hello
[01:15] <fbravo> hola
[01:15] <fbravo> alguien me lee?
[01:15] <violinappren> !es | fbravo
[01:15] <Fuzzy_> is this a serious channel with questions and such?
[01:16] <tensorpudding> I actually downloaded crebs, but it's not that great of a UI
[01:16] <fbravo> thank
[01:16] <tensorpudding> Would be nice if it automatically watched a folder
[01:16] <violinappren> tensorpudding: it's in python, you could nudge it a bit and it will do what you want
[01:17] <tensorpudding> I could possibly adapt my ruby script to work with Gnome
[01:17] <tensorpudding> But that is much less optimal.
[01:18] <Fuzzy_> I find ruby to be a bit of a work horse in the office environment.
[01:19] <tensorpudding> Hmm, it doesn't randomize either.
[01:19] <sevenseeker> btw, if anyone knew an answer to my question and didn't address me by my username... didn't get it
[01:19] <infid> why does playing youtube videos, especially full screen, make my desktop computer's fan go off a lot?
[01:19] <infid> i have a realy fast cpu and a ton of ram
[01:19] <violinappren> infid: flash on linux is a cpu hog
[01:20] <infid> it's really annoying because my fan is loud and youtube videos are often low
[01:20] <infid> so i cant hear them
[01:20] <Fuzzy_> flash does hog alot
[01:20] <infid> i need a mac i guess for media
[01:20] <violinappren> infid: you may try http://youtube.com/html5 with chrome
[01:21] <Fuzzy_> it is sad that linux is not as "hand on" with putting things on the screen as other osses
[01:21] <infid> i'll give it a swirl
[01:21] <violinappren> infid: it's only got better on mac recently , and due to google's chrome OS, i think it will be better on gnu/linux soon enough
[01:21] <Cyberkilla> infid: It does the same on my computers. It's Flash's fault, no doubt about it. Happens in Windows and Linux for me:)
[01:23] <Axilus> Does any one know how to install http://ooc-lang.org/guide/cool_ooc.html
[01:23] <Axilus> I'm trying to learn the language
[01:23] <siddhion> does anyone know how to find out what version of XFCE desktop one has?
[01:23] <markbaas> hi, anyone using avant-window-manager. I have the problem that using awn with the autohide option it still pops up in fullscreen windows as a video, virtualbox and games (wine). This is quite annoying.
[01:24] <ChogyDan> Axilus: I don't know, but it gives two lines labeled as installers
[01:24] <violinappren> Axilus: i just googled "occ ubuntu" ... http://www.ralree.com/2009/11/12/diving-into-ooc-a-fun-new-programming-language/
[01:25] <DasEi> !brain > maheanuu
[01:25] <violinappren> siddhion: right click on desktop, select about from the menu
[01:25] <tensorpudding> Axilus: Have you tried the two commands there on that very page?
[01:25] <Axilus> yep
[01:25] <Axilus> the wget one without bash -c
[01:25] <Axilus> because it didn't work with that
[01:26] <tensorpudding> and it downloaded install.sh?
[01:26] <Axilus> then when I use, rock hello_world.ooc
[01:26] <Axilus> it says that rock isn't a valid command
[01:26] <tensorpudding> you need to run install.sh first
[01:26] <Axilus> It did download install.sh
[01:26] <tensorpudding> install.sh is the installer
[01:27] <tensorpudding> well, presumably it's a script that downloads a suitable version of rock for you, or something
[01:27] <siddhion> violinappren, thanks
[01:27] <siddhion> for some reason i can select multiple files on the XFCE desktop but I can not move multiple files. When I try to move them all I only move one.
[01:28] <siddhion> Any idea why this is happening?
[01:28] <violinappren> siddhion: try #xubuntu or #xfce ?
[01:28] <tensorpudding> You need to have git installed for it to work.
[01:28] <Axilus> Sorry to flood the channel, heres what is does: --2010-07-17 21:27:38--  http://ooc.heroku.com/install.sh
[01:28] <Axilus> Resolving ooc.heroku.com... 75.101.145.87, 75.101.163.44, 174.129.212.2
[01:28] <Axilus> Connecting to ooc.heroku.com|75.101.145.87|:80... connected.
[01:28] <Axilus> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[01:28] <Axilus> Length: 2907 (2.8K) [application/x-sh]
[01:28] <FloodBot1> Axilus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:28] <Axilus> Saving to: `STDOUT'
[01:29] <DasEi> !ipod > maheanuu
[01:29] <siddhion> violinappren, #xfce it is. thanks
[01:30] <tensorpudding> Axilus: try wget http://ooc.heroku.com/install.sh; chmod +x install.sh; ./install.sh
[01:30] <Axilus> tensorpudding! ty
[01:30] <Axilus> where
[01:30] <Axilus> sry
[01:31] <Axilus> where is the reccomended place to install rock
[01:31] <ivo_> guys do you know how can I use my iSight with linux?
[01:31] <tensorpudding> you can install it in your home directory if you want
[01:31] <ivo_> I tried coreander
[01:31] <ivo_> it wont work
[01:31] <Jordan_U> ivo_: Have you tried cheeze?
[01:31] <ivo_> yep
[01:31] <Alazare> anyone know how to setup a ignore / exclude filter in ktorrent 3.3.4
[01:32] <ivo_> it can not recognized it
[01:32] <Axilus> tensorpudding, is it ok to put it in usr/bin/ with the other programs
[01:32] <ivo_> 05:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW322/323 (rev 70)
[01:32] <tensorpudding> if you want to install it system-wide, it might be good to put it in /usr/local/bin
[01:32] <ivo_> it is there
[01:33] <tensorpudding> you'll need to run the script using sudo to do that
[01:33] <Axilus> i see, then what is usr/bin for?
[01:33] <Alazare> anyone know how to setup a ignore / exclude filter in ktorrent 3.3.4
[01:33] <ivo_> coriander says there is no camera
[01:33] <ivo_> cheeze says there is no camera
[01:34] <tensorpudding> generally speaking, /usr/bin is for non-essential applications
[01:34] <Axilus> do I need sudo for usr/bin/?
[01:34] <Jordan_U> ivo_: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleiSight ?
[01:34] <tensorpudding> but to enforce some separation of "stuff the OS handles" and "stuff I installed by hand", some people like to put things in /usr/local/
[01:34] <Axilus> ok
[01:35] <tensorpudding> It doesn't matter a whit in Ubuntu, except for personal prefrence
[01:35] <ivo_> Jordan_U no I haven't 10x
[01:35] <tensorpudding> And yeah, if you want to install it anywhere in /usr, you need to use sudo
[01:35] <Jordan_U> ivo_: You're welcome.
[01:36] <ivo_> I dpn't have my mac anymore
[01:36] <len_> How can I change my hdmi device to be the default alsa device?
[01:36] <violinappren> you can also put in in ~/bin, i think keep most things in your home directory will ease upgrades (so you don't have to run around  trying to remember where you put what)
[01:36] <ivo_> so I can not get the driver :(
[01:36] <ivo_> anybody here with mac
[01:36] <len_> mythtv defaults to the alsa default device
[01:37] <len_> and doesn't care anything about pulse audio
[01:37] <len_> it uses alsa directly
[01:37] <tensorpudding> You need to watch your PATH in any case.
[01:37] <Axilus> tensorpudding, I tried the code again and it doesn't work it just creates a new install.sh.1, etc.
[01:37] <len_> and now alsaconf is gone
[01:38] <Axilus> and does nothign
[01:38] <tensorpudding> Axilus: try sudo ./install.sh
[01:39] <Axilus> ty it worked \(:D)/
[01:39] <tensorpudding> after it's done you can delete the install.sh junk
[01:39] <len_> Anyone in here running mythtv?  There aren't many people in the mythbuntu forum right now.
[01:39] <davidrussell> #join archlinux
[01:40] <davidrussell> haha wrong input box...
[01:40]  * violinappren has a paranoia of running random inshall.sh scripts on my machines 
[01:40] <Axilus> where is it located?
[01:40] <violinappren> s/inshall/install
[01:40] <len_> I have hdmi audio working, but need to make it the alsa default
[01:41] <violinappren> !sound  | len_
[01:41] <tensorpudding> Axilus: where did you tell it to install to?
[01:41] <Bogus8> I have a system 9.04 (server) that when I reboot it throws up filesystem errors and won't mount anything... I can log into rescue and run fsck.ext4 on the systems and then mount them just fine... but if I reboot it won't mount my system again
[01:41] <tensorpudding> Axilus: try 'which rock' on the cli
[01:41] <Axilus> /usr/local/rock
[01:41] <ivo_> what is the equivalent of rmformat in linux??
[01:41] <ivo_> I want to see where my optical drive is
[01:41] <PaulEycks> I upgraded 9.10 to 10.04 and now I can only login to Ubuntu using wdm in failsafe mode. Where should I start looking/
[01:42] <len_> I'm not having problems with sound.  Sound is working over hdmi just like I want it.  Problem is that mythtv only outputs sound to the alsa default
[01:42] <tensorpudding> doh
[01:42] <len_> and ubuntu is not using alsaconf anymore
[01:42] <tensorpudding> that wasn't very smart of it
[01:42] <tensorpudding> try mv /usr/local/rock /usr/local/bin/rock
[01:42] <tensorpudding> sudo mv*
[01:43] <len_> asoundconf, I mean
[01:43] <bikcmp> HI everyone, I think I accidently enabled a accessiability mode; my whole desktop is, like, inverted.
[01:43] <bikcmp> *Hi.
[01:43] <Gryllida> Hi
[01:43] <bikcmp> is it some sort of, like, mode to help users who cannot see very well?
[01:43] <len_> I wonder if I create a asound.conf if it will read it or just ignore it now that ubuntu has depreciated it
[01:44] <Bogus8> Oops, I mean my system is 10.4
[01:44] <Bogus8> I have a system 10.04 (server) that when I reboot it throws up filesystem errors and won't mount anything... I can log into rescue and run fsck.ext4 on the systems and then mount them just fine... but if I reboot it won't mount my system again
[01:45] <tensorpudding> bikcmp: there are accessibility applications which can, amongst other things, make the screen easier to read
[01:45] <bikcmp> tensorpudding: yeah
[01:45] <sarthor> Hi, ubuntu lucid installed. Laptop SL510, fingerprint device is not working, it says no device detected. this is the device SL510 FRU 60Y4134 Palm rest,
[01:45] <bikcmp> i think I accidentally enabled one.
[01:45] <bikcmp> I just pressed a key by accident (I don't remember which) and it inverted.
[01:45] <len_> I know ubuntu devs are in love with pulse audio, for some reason, but mythtv doesn't care anything about pulseaudio it uses the alsa default
[01:45] <tensorpudding> which inverted?
[01:45] <bikcmp> tensorpudding: the whole desktop
[01:45] <bikcmp> black where it would be white
[01:45] <tensorpudding> colors, you mean?
[01:46] <bikcmp> white where it would be black
[01:46] <bikcmp> yeah
[01:46] <FloodBot1> bikcmp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:46] <bikcmp> FloodBot1: I wasn't flooding... stupid bots these days :)
[01:46]  * Gryllida slaps FloodBot1
[01:46] <bikcmp> hehe
[01:46] <R3cur51v3> In this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html, why does the initial computer get an IP address of 192.255.0.1 but the second one gets 168.255.0.1? Shouldn't both start with the same 3 bytes? Isn't 255 an invalid byte for an IP address?
[01:48] <len_> Anyone know the new way to set the ALSA default device?
[01:48] <kevin_> Is there a good linux replacement for OneNote M$?
[01:49] <bikcmp> so, any ideas?
[01:49] <ChogyDan> R3cur51v3: it may not matter, as the netmask is 255.255.255.0
[01:49] <ChogyDan> R3cur51v3: Im kinda guessing
[01:49] <DasEi> R3cur51v3: haven't read the tut, but from a quick glance, yes same subnet is needed
[01:50] <mikubuntu> how do i 'copy' web videos?  like to save a youtube to my hd?
[01:50] <LasNote> I'm trying to create a launcher to start a program located in /usr/local/games/nwn called "nwn" and I can't get it to work, i've tried the full path and it doesn't start, but it starts when I do "./nwn" inside that directory
[01:50] <R3cur51v3> OK, so should I just specify 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 respectively?
[01:50] <DasEi> R3cur51v3: like 192.168.0.1  192.168.0.2   , and leave last (192.168.0.255) for broadcast
[01:50] <R3cur51v3> DasEi, thanks
[01:50] <DasEi> np
[01:50] <R3cur51v3> I hate shitty tutorials
[01:51] <R3cur51v3> :P
[01:51] <DasEi> haven't really read it ..
[01:52] <Gametime> sorry for the nub question, but does ubuntu run well / without problems on a netbook? (1gb ram, 1.6ghz processor)
[01:52] <mgolisch> it should
[01:52] <mgolisch> LasNote: sure you used the correct path?
[01:52] <LasNote> ahh haaa, when I try and run it using the full path in a terminal window it's looking for another file
[01:53] <LasNote> it says "cannot find ./nwmain"
[01:53] <ivo_> actually is it illegal  to use my iSight on PC??
[01:53] <DasEi> Gametime: standard apps, yes
[01:53] <LasNote> so i'm guessing it needs to be run from inside it's directory
[01:53] <mgolisch> LasNote: k youll have to make a startscript then that first changes to that diretory
[01:53] <LasNote> mgolisch, thanks
[01:54] <Gametime> dasei: would i gain a LOT more usage if i upgraded? (from 1.6ghz / 1gb ram >> 1.6ghz dual core / 2gb ram / nvidia ion)?
[01:54] <Gametime> like, would it be a NOTICABLE / appreciated upgrade?
[01:55] <DasEi> Gametime: depends on your habbits, if you like browsing with >20 tabs, meanwhile streaming media and then , while the update runs, want oo to act quickly... yess
[01:56] <Gametime> appreciate the advice. first time with a low capacity machine.
[01:56] <Gametime> thank you.
[01:56] <DasEi> Gametime: also does graphic steal mem from main ?
[01:56] <klappi> steal is good ^^
[01:56] <Gametime> unsure, dasei. let me check.
[01:57] <bikcmp> rebooted and it went away.
[01:57] <bikcmp> thanks anyway
[01:57] <bikcmp> :)
[01:57] <Gametime> supposedly it doesnt share ram, dasei.
[01:58] <blitzo> i have a troubleshoot ques: a new ubuntu install crashes while doing an apt-get upgrade - what log files should i look in for cause?  kern.log, syslog, dpkg.log, what else?
[01:58] <DasEi> Gametime: concerning your nick, that won't run fine on it, but apart from it, can do a set up for low memory and then will have a nice sys with one gig, too, but it will use swap then easily
[02:00] <R3cur51v3> I have attempted to establish a Ad-Hoc network between my computer (Ubuntu) and another (Windows XP). They both say they are connected to the ad-hoc network, but I've set their IP's to 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 respectively, and they cannot ping each other.
[02:01] <mgolisch> none can ping the other?
[02:01] <R3cur51v3> No.
[02:01] <mgolisch> any other connections active?
[02:01] <R3cur51v3> Yeah
[02:01] <DasEi> R3cur51v3: how are the conncted ? direct by an ethernet cable ?
[02:01] <ratcheer> R3cur51v3: What is your subnet mask set to?
[02:01] <R3cur51v3> Ubuntu is connected to ethernet
[02:02] <R3cur51v3> DasEi, ad-hoc wireless network.
[02:02] <mgolisch> and your ethernet is not 192.168.0.x?
[02:02] <R3cur51v3> ratcheer, 255.255.255.0
[02:02] <DasEi> R3cur51v3: is there a switch.. ah
[02:02] <mgolisch> if it is that might be why it doenst work
[02:02] <R3cur51v3> DasEi, ??
[02:02] <ratcheer> R3cur51v3: Ok, that should be good.
[02:02] <blitzo> i have a troubleshoot ques: a new ubuntu install crashes while doing an apt-get upgrade - what log files should i look in for cause?  kern.log, syslog, dpkg.log, what else?
[02:02] <noob_69> Does anyone here knows a hardware channel i can join in?
[02:03] <DasEi> R3cur51v3: connection is wireless then , I thought of a crosscable missing
[02:03] <mgolisch>  /j #hardware
[02:03] <R3cur51v3> I get "From 192.255.0.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable"
[02:03] <DNS777> noob_69: ##hardware
[02:03] <mgolisch> R3cur51v3: didnt you just say you used 192.168.0.x for your adhoc?
[02:03] <blitzo> r3cur51v3 that means you can't get there from here
[02:04] <R3cur51v3> I followed the instructions here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html except that the IP addresses they gave seemed erroneous
[02:04] <mgolisch> why do you ping an ip of a completely different network?
[02:04] <Sylphid> blitzo, im assuming you did an apt-get update first?
[02:04] <mains_power> Does Ubuntu work with HDMI Monitors?
[02:04] <blitzo> sylphid yes
[02:04] <mgolisch> mains_power: works for me
[02:04] <R3cur51v3> mgolisch, yeah
[02:04] <DasEi> mains_power: it does, though no experience on my side
[02:04] <tensorpudding> Presumably if Ubuntu has drivers for the graphics device that powers the HDMI monitor, it will work.
[02:05] <R3cur51v3> mgolisch, I typed "ping 192.168.0.1 -I wlan0"
[02:05] <blitzo> Sylphid we tried first to load wubi and ran into this same prob and the advice i got here was just blow windows away and go straight to ubuntu so we did - and same prob
[02:05] <blitzo> Sylphid it won't update
[02:05] <Sylphid> blitzo, when you say crash how exactly, hangs, reboots, restarts X
[02:05] <R3cur51v3> err
[02:05] <R3cur51v3> mgolisch, I typed "ping 192.168.0.2 -I wlan0"
[02:05] <blitzo> X freezes
[02:05] <mgolisch> R3cur51v3: and again is your ethernet connection 192.168.0.x also?
[02:05] <blitzo> Sylphid X freezes
[02:05] <mgolisch> oh you specified the interface
[02:05] <R3cur51v3> mgolisch, yes
[02:05] <R3cur51v3> I think so
[02:06] <R3cur51v3> Actually, it doesn't return anything when I try to ping the Windows host
[02:06] <Sylphid> blitzo, ttys still usable?
[02:06] <R3cur51v3> err it doesn't say anything
[02:06] <hoosiers_83> so i got a supported tv tuner.  what should i use?  mythtv is a giant headache.  tvtime just crashes.  what else is good?
[02:06] <R3cur51v3> the icmp_seq error only occurs when I ping the IP of this computer
[02:06] <blitzo> Sylphid dunno didn't try - i am troubleshooting from remote and i didn't think to do that
[02:06] <R3cur51v3> Hmm
[02:06] <Sylphid> blitzo, remote via ssh or vnc
[02:06] <KittyBoots> Hello I am trying to install b43-fwcutter_012-1build1_i386 onto a laptop that has no means of connecting to the internet.  I have another lappy that I can download and install files onto and transfer over to the first laptop via a usb drive.  What files will I need to download?  I am having trouble locating them.
[02:06] <varikin> I vnc'd into another computer from Ubuntu 10.04 and click fullscreen. How can I get out of fullscreen? ctrl-alt-enter isn't doing it
[02:06] <blitzo> Sylphid right now i am having her boot to the cd, will have her mount the harddisk and email me the logs
[02:07] <R3cur51v3> whoops
[02:07] <R3cur51v3> I forgot to change the IP on the Ubuntu machine
[02:07] <R3cur51v3> lemme test again
[02:07] <mgolisch> lol
[02:07] <blitzo> Sylphid i am talking to her in chat and telling her what to do
[02:07] <blitzo> Sylphid she is using windows to talk to me
[02:08] <R3cur51v3> I still can't ping the Windows host
[02:08] <R3cur51v3> although my IP is now correct
[02:08] <blitzo> Sylphid can u give me  crash course in setting up sshd or should i just read the man page
[02:09] <mgolisch> did you use a different subnet than your lan connection? this might be why its not working
[02:09] <mgolisch> i mean if you didnt
[02:09] <Sylphid> blitzo, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ssh
[02:09] <Sylphid> blitzo, should set up everything for you
[02:09] <R3cur51v3> The windows host can ping Ubuntu
[02:09] <R3cur51v3> it's good
[02:09] <Hund> Tips på XML-editor för Linux?
[02:09] <mgolisch> R3cur51v3: also the windows firewall blocks icmp traffic by default
[02:09] <R3cur51v3> Teag
[02:09] <R3cur51v3> Yeah
[02:09] <blitzo> Sylphid i want to see the logs as they are at the time of crash so we will get it up on the cd before rebooting from the harddisk
[02:09] <Hund> Ops. Wrong channel. :P
[02:10] <Sylphid> blitzo, auto key generation, service startup, and adding startup to inits
[02:10] <Bogus8> I have a system 10.04 (server) that when I reboot it throws up filesystem errors and won't mount anything... I can log into rescue and run fsck.ext4 on the systems and then mount them just fine... but if I reboot it won't mount my system again
[02:10] <blitzo> Sylphid thx
[02:10] <DasEi> bogus 8 : use livecd, don't break your fs
[02:11] <Ganymede> has anyone thought about a system-wide framework to help laptops converse power in which applications can know whether a disk is spun-up or not and can decide to delay certain actions that would likely spin up the disk or keep it spun up. this way, we can keep the hard drive spun down for longer. examples include: dhclient/IRC logging---don't need to log it if the disk isn't spun up [of course, should be an option for the user].
[02:11] <Jordan_U> blitzo: The hard part of setting up ssh is setting up her router with port forewarding.
[02:11] <Sylphid> blitzo, get kern.log messages Xorg.0.log syslog and possibly dpkg.log
[02:11] <Bogus8> DasEi: I used the server cd to do rescue and didn't mount the FS... I didn't do anything to break it
[02:12] <Bogus8> DasEi: I just shut down and moved the computer
[02:12] <zr0> Ganymede: i believe something like that would all be in the kernel buffer cache handling.. the app shouldn't worry about it
[02:12] <DasEi> Bogus8: alright then, appeared like on a mounted sys, so you did, could boot up one time, and then same failure ?
[02:12] <Ganymede> zr0: that may be true for writing but what about reading from disk? an app can choose to delay that until the disk is spun up
[02:13] <Ganymede> zr0: or rather, it should be able to choose to delay that
[02:13] <Bogus8> DasEi: honeslty I'm not following your question... I was able to fsck the system then mount it in recue mode of the server CD
[02:13] <zr0> Ganymede: also done in the kernel, you would just want todo an asychronous write
[02:14] <Bogus8> DasEi: after I reboot from there it will toss that error up on the next boot
[02:14] <zr0> Ganymede: in other words your write gets written to the cache first
[02:14] <Jordan_U> zr0: He asked about *read*.
[02:14] <Ganymede> zr0: but you may want to avoid reading because you don't know if you're gonna miss the cache
[02:14] <DasEi> Bogus8: ic, use a desktop (live) cd rather to get a terminal, as rescue mode will try to mount partitons, too
[02:15] <Ganymede> zr0: if it's not critical that it happens NOW, maybe an app should have the option to delay it so it doesn't accidentally spin up the disk
[02:16] <zr0> Ganymede: if you do an asychronous read, maybe that happens
[02:16] <noob_69> well, nobody is answering me in the Nvidia channel... maybe you guys coul help me
[02:16] <magicianlord> noob_69: yes?
[02:16] <Ganymede> zr0: also does linux flush the write cache to the disk when a timer runs out? or when a certain size of data is waiting in the cache? if it's based on the amount of uncommited cache, then doing unecessary disk I/O would fill up the buffer and bring you closer to spinning up the disk
[02:16] <noob_69> Whats the best cheap chipset from intel?ç
[02:17] <magicianlord> 945
[02:17] <ChogyDan> Ganymede: yeah, I think it is under 30 seconds
[02:17] <zhoujilong> Hello, everybody.
[02:18] <Gryllida> !hi
[02:18] <Bogus8> DasEi: I can do that... but there is an option in recue mode to NOT mount the FS and that is what I am choosing
[02:18] <magicianlord> fantastic
[02:18] <DasEi> Bogus8: yes, and it did and reported found errors ?
[02:19] <magicianlord> i cant believe ive been sitting in the chair for 4 hours
[02:19] <ChogyDan> Ganymede: you may want to try posting your question on devel-discuss.  I'm sure there are smart people who know more.  The only thing I've heard about is powertop
[02:20] <Bogus8> DasEi: no, I ran the fsck on the unmounted partitions then after they came up clean I rebooted... then it failed... I did it again and tried mounting them to a temp dir to just test out the FS and they were mounted successfully ... but on reboot I had the same problem
[02:20] <Ganymede> ChogyDan: powertop is more so for "wakeup" events or something like that...i'm looking at iotop
[02:20] <zhoujilong> Yeah you can not talk for a while.
[02:20] <Ganymede> ChogyDan: but yeah, running iotop and powertop really makes you wonder why certain apps are waking up every now and then and writing stuff to disk...what are they doing? they should just be sitting there idle
[02:20] <Jordan_U> blitzo: The easiest thing to do is likely a reverse VNC connection. That way you can setup port forewarding on your end rather than hers.
[02:20] <DasEi> Bogus8: what's the error message you get ? apart from moving box, any changes in partioning beforehands ?
[02:21] <KittyBoots> Hello, I am still having trouble installing b43-fwcutter on the laptop.  I found the instructions but I get Error 127 when I try sudo make.  How do I cure this problem?
[02:21] <magicianlord> how do you copy and paste in xterm?
[02:21] <ChogyDan> Ganymede: do they prevent the discs from staying spun down?
[02:21] <Bogus8> DasEi: only think I can think of is that I did a dist-upgrade (sorry I had forgotten about that) after installing 10.4.. this is a fresh install
[02:22] <DasEi> Bogus8: err, a dist upgrade or a fresh install ? what error is displayed at bootup ?
[02:22] <blitzo> jordan_u i don't know how to do that but i do know how to use ssh
[02:22] <Ganymede> ChogyDan: something or other is keeping my disks from spinning down. i know right now, it's konversation logging my IRC, but even when i have barely anything running, something is keeping my disk spun up. i have laptop-mode enabled and everything and i manually editing the config to maek it very likely to spin down, but no matter what, the hard drive part of my laptop is super hot...
[02:23] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots: You do not need to do any compiling to get a broadcom card working, stop following whatever guide you're following.
[02:23] <Ganymede> ChogyDan: thunderbird also likes to wake up very frequently and do some disk I/O. not sure what it's doing every few seconds because i have it check my mail every 10 minutes
[02:24] <blitzo> jordan_u when i ssh to an ubuntu running off live cd will i have to give a root password to sudo and if so do we have to set it?
[02:24] <Bogus8> DasEi: well, I did a fresh install from a cd... then did an upgrade but there were held back packages so I did an dist-upgrade on that (from a freshly installed system... no other updates had been run, nor had I done anything... basically first thing I did).  As far as error... let me try to get it right...  UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
[02:24] <Jordan_U> blitzo: http://portforward.com/
[02:24] <Bogus8> (that is, without –a or –p options
[02:24] <Bogus8> fsck died with exit status 4
[02:25] <ChogyDan> Ganymede: interesting
[02:25] <blitzo> jordan-u we already have ssh set up and i'm not gonna go learn sumpin new for such a trivial task
[02:25] <Cerealklr> Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx doesn't seem to be able to detect my Network Controller. Computer model is an HP Pavillion a6742p. Installation is a single boot following all recommended settings. I am currently using my phone to techer internet via USB.
[02:26] <Cerealklr> I can verify that this network setup worked on Vista before Ubuntu installation.
[02:26] <blitzo> jordan_u is portforward gonna make it possible for her not to have reconfigure her router to forward the sshe connect to her inside machine?
[02:26] <Bogus8> DasEi: should it make a difference that in fdisk -l there is a * next to my /boot parition (which is butted up against the / part) that says "Partition 1 does not end on cylnder boundary."
[02:26] <magicianlord> Cerealklr: oh really?
[02:26] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U, the card does not work and I can not connect through the wired connection.
[02:26] <nate-> question: is there an easy way to bind alt+w to ctrl+w in ubuntu? (I'm using 10.04 on a laptop and ctrl+w is annoying to press)
[02:26] <Jordan_U> blitzo: Do you actually have ssh setup (have you actually tried connecting)? If she's behind a router you'll need to setup port forewarding, there's no way around it.
[02:26] <mgolisch> Cerealklr: whats the used controler? lspci should tell you
[02:26] <DasEi> Bogus8: so an sudo apt-get update/grade was the thing to be done, but grub loads and then box starves with filesystem error
[02:27] <blitzo> jordan_u that just occured to me
[02:27] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U, I do not know how to cure this.
[02:27] <Bogus8> DasEi: what about held back packages?
[02:27] <Cerealklr> lspci yields no line remotely resembling a network controller. I googled for 3 hours to make sure and ended up coming up blank on the topic. Shall I paste you my lspci results? (or pastebin it?)
[02:27] <DasEi> Bogus8: that's ahint, but won't neccesarly lead to an fsck error
[02:27] <mgolisch> Cerealklr: yeah pastebin it
[02:28] <DasEi> Bogus8: held packages are ok, an also an dist-upgrade won't change partitions
[02:28] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U, If the wired connection would work I would not have any troubles.
[02:28] <Dmole> anyone know the opentracker announce format?
[02:28] <Jordan_U> blitzo: That's what port forewarding is, routing incomming connections to a certain machine. What a reverse VNC connection will allow is you'll be able to setup port forewarding on your end rather than hers.
[02:28] <Bogus8> DasEi: I didn't think the dist-upgrade was the issue... I just wanted to make sure you knew everything that had happened... only think I could think of is if the kernal was upgraded and did something funky
[02:29] <Relaed> Hello
[02:29] <DasEi> bogus:easiest forensis will be boot from live and have a look from there (log in #ubuntu from there)
[02:29] <Cerealklr> mgolisch: http://pastebin.com/BeeCB8wT
[02:29] <Fudge> hi my capture card appears in lspci but when i try to detect monitors only my lcd appears, not the tv. what can i do?
[02:29] <Bogus8> DasEi: alright... let me grab my kit from the car
[02:29] <DasEi> Bogus8: re-install and go proper manner might be faster :)
[02:30] <Cerealklr> mgolisch: It is an integrated network controller, if that helps.
[02:30] <Jordan_U> blitzo: Enabling port forewarding makes you more vulnerable to attacks (mostly just from people trying to guess your ssh password), reverse VNC means that the security burdon is on your end rather than hers.
[02:30] <Relaed> VirtualHost configuration:
[02:30] <Relaed> wildcard NameVirtualHosts and _default_ servers:
[02:30] <Relaed> *:*                    is a NameVirtualHost
[02:30] <Relaed>          default server A.com (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/DomainA:1)
[02:30] <Relaed>          port * namevhost A.com (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/DomainA:1)
[02:30] <FloodBot1> Relaed: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:30] <Relaed>          port * namevhost B.org (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/DomainB:1)
[02:30] <Relaed> Syntax OK
[02:30] <DasEi> Bogus8: depends on the machine, on a custom pc install nowadays is a 30min job
[02:30] <blitzo> jordan_u i know how to configure port forwarding but i know nothing about vnc or reverse vnc
[02:30] <Ganymede> is there some way to log/monitor when a disk gets spun down and spun up? i want to make sure my disk is spinning down and also want to make sure it isn't spinning up and down too frequently
[02:31] <DasEi> Ganymede: be carefull with t, read man hdparm
[02:31] <DasEi> it*
[02:32] <Jordan_U> blitzo: If you can walk her through setting up port forewarding remotely then go for it.
[02:32] <mgolisch> Cerealklr: odd it realy shows no network controlers
[02:32] <Bogus8> DasEi: so when should I use dist-upgrade?
[02:32] <mgolisch> Cerealklr: did you disable it in bios or something?
[02:32] <Bogus8> DasEi: I had been told in here to use it
[02:33] <DasEi> Ganymede: many disk let's you set modes on enrgyconsumption, concerning spinning.. low energy though kills disk earleir
[02:33] <Pwen> hi all. does anyone know how to have multiple X sessions start on boot? I want one for my desktop ala a normal install, and another that is started by vnc4server for me to login to remotely. I want them seperate.
[02:33] <val0r> hey im installing ubuntu via my usb. several problems arose and now i have to reformat my usb drive. how can i do this?
[02:33] <DasEi> Bogus8: as the name says, to upgrade one distro from onother, like ibex to lucid
[02:34] <Cerealklr> mgolisch: mhmm. I'm pretty used to working with Ubuntu. this'll be my 7th or 8th install (its a server for a family member's business to putter about with), but I certainlywas not expecting this. I presume I need to manually locate the proper drivers, but I can't find any literature at all on Ubuntu and the HP Pavillion a6742p. Its the craziest thing. Its as though nobody has ever used the two together.
[02:34] <val0r> gparted maybe?
[02:34] <Ganymede> DasEi: so you are probably suggesting that i just watch the output of hdparm -C /dev/sda every few seconds?
[02:34] <Relaed> Is there anyone who knows how to solve a virtualhost problem
[02:34] <c3l>  what font does the "non-emulated"/"non-graphical" terminal use? (the one you get when pressing ctrl-alt+F1
[02:34] <Bogus8> DasEi: hmm... well ok, but that certainly wasn't the case when I was instructed to use it before... I've never upgraded distros... I always install fresh in those cases
[02:35] <mgolisch> Cerealklr: if lspci doenst list it it means the kernel doenst see it
[02:35] <mgolisch> Cerealklr: so either its somehow broken or disabled
[02:35] <Cerealklr> mgolich: no I checked to insure it was not disabled in BIOs. I saw someone mention that and facepalmed and checked but it was enabled.
[02:35] <Max-P> Hi, which package containes the snd-intel-hda driver? Mine is broken, I want to revert to an older version.
[02:35] <Cerealklr> mgolisch: I am certain it is in working condition, unfortunately, and it is not disabled. I'm also a double certified IT Tech and maintain for a living. ^.^;;
[02:36] <DasEi> Ganymede: I'd use hdparm mainly for settings of hd's , then : manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/udisks.1.html
[02:36] <Ganymede> DasEi: well yeah, i know how to set all the spin-down parameters and power saving levels and stuff, but...what about logging spin-ups/spin-downs without polling?
[02:36] <Jordan_U> blitzo: You should set a password for the LiveCD account, "ubuntu", before installing ssh.
[02:37] <thune3> Cerealklr: i have seen devices stop showing on lspci after some driver issue caused them to stop responding. is there anything in your dmesg or syslog that looks like it is related to such a device.
[02:37] <mgolisch> Cerealklr: and this was the complete listing of lspci?
[02:37] <DasEi> Ganymede: never monitor this other by ears, but udisks comes in mind
[02:38] <Cerealklr> thune3: good question. How would I check it?
[02:38] <Cerealklr> mgolisch: Yes.
[02:38] <nate-> question: is there an easy way to bind alt+w to ctrl+w in ubuntu? (I'm using 10.04 on a laptop and ctrl+w is annoying to press)
[02:38] <DasEi> Ganymede: either dump or monitor
[02:38] <Ganymede> DasEi: also, i'm using a laptop disk, which is rated for about 300,000 spin up spin down cycles, which would last me 6 years if it spun up and down every 10 minutes
[02:39] <DasEi> Ganymede: :)
[02:39] <ibnarrashid> nate: You mean you want to change the default keybindings?
[02:39] <Ganymede> DasEi: thanks for the pointers
[02:39] <val0r> should the file system on USB's for installing and running linux be ext3
[02:39] <rsouthard> is there an ubuntu offtopic channel?
[02:39] <thune3> Cerealklr: look through dmesg output or /var/log/dmesg and follow from boot. Or examine /var/log/syslog.
[02:40] <ibnarrashid> nate: If that's what you are asking, there should be a "Keyboard Shortcuts" menu item under "Preferences"
[02:40] <Agnes_Leroy> hi! all
[02:40] <Cerealklr> wargh, got to pipe it to an output file, its longer than the buffer and I don't feel like mussing with the buffer. xD Lets see if i remember how to do this.
[02:40] <leagris> Hello, can you help with unmet dependencies: http://paste.ubuntu.com/465259/ apt-get update does not help. Broken since nearly a full week.
[02:41] <thune3> Cerealklr: dmesg | less
[02:41] <Agnes_Leroy> I would like to know if I get Ubuntu installed on Sheevaplug, will all the applications be compatible with it? Or is there anything I need to be aware of?
[02:41] <dcordes> I have problem that only root can access network in my system. I've tried different ubuntu rootfilesystem and made sure users get all necessary permission. I think it might be kernel related. Is there some kernel config that could affect this ?
[02:42] <leagris> even updating from main repositories the dependencies are broken with language-pack-gnome-fr
[02:42] <mathmoi> Does ubuntu-server need any special package to read some CD filesystem (A Windows XP CD)?
[02:42] <nate-> ibnarrashid, sorry didn't see your message without the dash on the end of my name
[02:43] <Bogus8> DasEi: how can I make the partitions right, since I'm reinstalling anyway?
[02:43] <nate-> ibnarrashid, I don't want to change how alt or ctrl work globally, just want to change that one single keybinding
[02:43] <Jordan_U> mathmoi: No.
[02:43] <dcordes> mathmoi, I doubt it
[02:44] <mathmoi> Jordan_U: Ok, thanks. Any special reason why I would not be able to mount a Windows XP CD?
[02:44] <ibnarrashid> nate-: Sorry about that, but yeah then the Keyboard shortcuts menu is the one you want.
[02:44] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, you need to check out the ARM repositories of the ubuntu version you gonna use
[02:44] <DasEi> Bogus8: Just choose manual install first and do a new partiton table (msdos), then reboot on a 'clean HD
[02:44] <jamil_1> leagris, you may try sudo apt-get install -f
[02:44] <Jordan_U> mathmoi: Not that I can think of. How are you trying to mount it? Do you get any error message?
[02:45] <Izinucs> mathmoi: you trying to load xp in a vm?
[02:45] <Agnes_Leroy> dcordes: The application I am intending install needs to be available for ARM, is that right sir?
[02:45] <Bogus8> DasEi: so partition via a live cd or something with fdisk then run the installer?
[02:45] <Cerealklr> thune3: I couldn't find anything myself that seemed to be an error involving it. I'll pastebin it.
[02:45] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, yes. sheevaplug is an ARM based devices
[02:45] <leagris> jamil_1, just found it was the proposed source that messed it up
[02:45] <mathmoi> Jordan_U: I just put it in the drive. And I get an error to the effect that the fs is unknown
[02:46] <Bogus8> DasEi: I am setting up my partitions manually in the server installer
[02:46] <mathmoi> Izinucs: Yes, that's what I'm trying to do.
[02:46] <DasEi> Bogus8: Just choose manual install first and do a new partiton table (msdos), can do it from the server-cd menu, then reboot one time
[02:46] <thune3> Cerealklr: i'll look at it when you do
[02:46] <leagris> thanks jamil_1
[02:46] <Bogus8> DasEi: I'll reboot and check it out... I don't recall that option.
[02:46] <mathmoi> Jordan_U: Oh, it worked. I don't know what I did different this time !
[02:46] <DasEi> Bogus8: delete all partis
[02:46] <Cerealklr> thune3: Hmm? oh? I already scrolled through it twice with less before messaging again... http://pastebin.com/yJ59asXW
[02:47] <mathmoi> Jordan_U: Izinucs : Thanks
[02:47] <val0r> can anyone help me format my usb drive to ext3
[02:47] <nate-> ibnarrashid, I've checked that app and I don't see any way to bind alt+w to mimic ctrl+w... would I need to add a new command or something? keep in mind, I don't want to rebind ctrl+w, that should continue to work as normal
[02:47] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, I tried the full ubuntu desktop install on my htc hd2 cell phone. must stuff was available. I was only missing a good flash plugin. but that's not ubuntu's fault. none of the free flash plugins (gnash swfdec) play back recent ubuntu stuff
[02:47] <Cerealklr> thune3: let me check the line numbers of the only two potentially related things I found. Off the top of my head, the last line related to conenction to my phone for tethering, and 1/3 of the way in reported something mentioning networking terminology.
[02:47] <Izinucs> mathmoi: you should be able to read it.. once the cd is inserted and mounted it should be listed in /media/cdrom0 or similar.. if you're using virtualbox, vbox does have a cli mode for creating and deploying *and* starting up a vm so that it's accessable from any machine on the lan
[02:47] <val0r> can anyone help me format my usb drive to ext3
[02:48] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, uuhh youtube stuff I mean
[02:48] <Bogus8> DasEi: this is exactly what I did the first time
[02:48] <Cerealklr> thune3: yea, line 651 and 652 mention the NetworkManager, but seem fairly normal.
[02:48] <dcordes> val0r, yes
[02:48] <val0r> k can i pm you
[02:48] <dcordes> val0r, yes
[02:48] <Jordan_U> mathmoi: You're welcome.
[02:49] <tonysan> I have some problems using wallpaper in grub2
[02:49] <Cerealklr> thune3: lines 697 and after are all after I attached my Pre as a net tether.
[02:49] <DasEi> Bogus8: well, live-terminal is always best bet or gparted live (smaller in size), but that boundary-thing shouldn#t fubar the fs
[02:50] <Agnes_Leroy> dcordes: Youtube stuff? I don't get you? :|
[02:50] <tonysan> I edited default/grub, set wallpaper, run update-grub
[02:50] <tonysan> but nothing changed
[02:50] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, youtube nice website to play lots of uselss videos
[02:50] <Bogus8> DasEi: I just want to get this right and get this server to my buddy... his previous one crashed and both HD's were toast... so I put together a "new" one and threw in a 500gig HD I had laying around... he has no clue and I want to surprise him.
[02:50] <jrgp> my up arrow key seems to have died, but xev identifies it properly. kubuntu / kde / lucid
[02:50] <Bogus8> DasEi: he's really helped me out recently with my new house and business
[02:51] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, you need a browser with a plugin to use flash content in order to use youtube
[02:51] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, such plugins for arm are bad
[02:51] <DasEi> Bogus8: so go ahead, and don't use dist-upgrade on the fresh system , gg
[02:51] <ted__> Hey, is there a "device drivers" equivalent in ubuntu were I can see all the hardware devices on the various busses?
[02:51] <Bogus8> DasEi: thanks
[02:51] <tonysan> I tried editing 05_debian, in vain though
[02:52] <Cerealklr> thune3: some TCP info around line 375, and a few NET entries that don't seem to mention a device or any failures scattered for the next 200 lines or so
[02:52] <Slix`> I'm trying to boot Ubuntu from CD. 4 times, it froze at a complete black screen (I occassionally saw a small blinking white cursor at the top left). One time, for no apparent reason, it got to the loading screen (with the dots that change from red to white), but then it froze.
[02:53] <MaRk-I> Slix`: what's your videocard?
[02:53] <Slix`> I had problems with booting from a USB drive as well, and I had similar problems with booting with the last Ubuntu version.
[02:53] <ted__> asking another way, is there a way to get the lspci and lsusb information from system gui or tool?
[02:53]  * Slix` checks.
[02:53] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy,
[02:53] <Izinucs> Slix`: do you get the initial menu and then choose "test" for the live environment?
[02:53] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, what are you worried about ?
[02:53] <Slix`> MaRk-I: Nvidia geforce GTX 260.
[02:54] <magicianlord> man
[02:54] <MaRk-I> Slix`: try this http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[02:54] <ibnarrashid> nate-, I think you should check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Keybindings, it has directions to configure keybindings not available on the Keyboard Shortcuts menu, I am not on an ubuntu machince right now, sorry test it out right now for you.
[02:54] <Slix`> Izinucs: Test? As in test memory?
[02:54] <nate-> nps ibnarrashid, thanks for the help :)
[02:54] <Slix`> MaRk-I: I'll read that.
[02:55] <Cerealklr> thune3: I reread through it backwards to insure I didn't miss anything I wasn't looking for, but it doesn't appear to be the case. I simply don't see the network controller ever mentioned. Its the oddest thing...
[02:55] <MaRk-I> Slix`: for nvidia just start the kernel with "nomodeset"
[02:55] <Izinucs> Slix`: like you can boot to the initial text menu that gives you the option of trying the live environment or installing straight away..
[02:55] <mgolisch> Cerealklr: and you are sure it works? like if you boot some other os you can use that network controler?
[02:55] <Slix`> Izinucs: Aha. I got that on the USB, but I never saw that on the CD.
[02:56] <Agnes_Leroy> dcordes: Oh! I got it! I thought YouTube has to do something with the hardware. Yeah! absense of flash won't be a big deal.
[02:56] <Izinucs> Slix`: perhaps MaRk-I 's suggestion will work.. the one I have to use on my gforce motherboard is pci=nomsi ..
[02:56] <Agnes_Leroy> dcordes: I just want to setup something to download some torrents and use less electricity
[02:57] <Izinucs> Slix`: that's a kernal line mode on boot (from the initial text menu hit F6 to enter.
[02:57] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, well you can use flash. there's a gnash plugin for mozilla. but I had to notice most recent gnash version is incompatible with latest youtube
[02:57] <Cerealklr> mgolisch: Well, the other OS is gone now... ^.^;; It certainly did work though. I had repaired it and thoroughly tested it myself (I repaired it because it was supposed to be 'dead' as pronounced by two other techs. Once I got it running everyone was a bit incredulous and I ran it through its paces to make sure everything was ship shape. That was yesterday and nothing significant has changed except the plugs since then. And it isn't the ethernet plug causing
[02:57] <Slix`> Izinucs: I never see any initial text menu..
[02:57] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, well then you all set. I would recommend to use ubuntu-server rootfs then
[02:58] <MaRk-I> Slix`: just press any key or the shift key, then press F6
[02:58] <thune3> Cerealklr: if this is indeed you computer: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&docname=c01628403&product=3875703 then your motherborard is supposed to be http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c01324212 which says you should have Realtek 8111C NIC for ethernet.
[02:58] <Slix`> It goes from my computer booting up, switching to CD boot, then I get a weird purple screen that has a weird rectangle equaling a stick figure in a bubble.
[02:58] <Slix`> Okay.
[02:58] <jamil_1> ted__, you can search the software center
[02:58] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, rtorrent nice for this
[02:58] <Agnes_Leroy> dcordes: It is specifically for ARM, I think.
[02:58] <Cerealklr> thune3: Yep, that's me!
[02:58] <Slix`> Then I.. start the kernel with nomodeset?
[02:58] <Jordan_U> Slix`: That's a keyboard and the symbol for accessability.
[02:58] <Cerealklr> thune3: I'll start googling for incompatibilities with that hipset then
[02:59] <MaRk-I> Slix`: yes just append it to "quiet splash"
[02:59] <Slix`> Oh
[02:59] <Slix`> xD
[02:59] <Slix`> Okay.
[02:59] <Agnes_Leroy> dcordes: I also heard about it. But since it is fully commandline I am a bit worried.
[02:59] <Slix`> As nomode set or -nomodeset?
[02:59] <Slix`> nomodeset*
[02:59] <MaRk-I> Slix`: "quiet splash nomodeset"
[02:59] <Slix`> Thanks! I'll go try it!
[02:59] <Jordan_U> Slix`: It's hard to convey "Press any key to get accessability options" before the user even chooses a language :)
[02:59] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, fairly easy to handle
[02:59] <Agnes_Leroy> dcordes: Will it support RSS feeds? If yes, I can just add it to an RSS feed and it'll automatically download
[03:01] <ted__> thanks jamil_1  I will do that.  Thought it might be an easy one if it was common.
[03:01] <Guest57767> hi
[03:01] <magicianlord> wutup dawg
[03:01] <dcordes> Agnes_Leroy, check this http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ticket/987
[03:01] <magicianlord> welcomique to ubuntu
[03:01] <Guest57767> come va ragazzi????
[03:02] <Cerealklr> thune3: i'm getting quite a few hits on this now. I'll try looking through and seeing if any of these fixes work. Thanks tons!
[03:02] <MaRk-I> !it | Guest57767
[03:02] <magicianlord> lol
[03:03] <Guest57767> e come faccio????
[03:03] <magicianlord> ok man
[03:03] <magicianlord> i
[03:06] <magicianlord> be sute of teh true
[03:11] <preecher> is they way to install another distro on my ubuntu without having to reinstall ubuntu ? kind of install a 2nd distro on free space or no?
[03:11] <thune3> Cerealklr: i can't seem to get to http://www.jamesonwilliams.com/hardy-r8168.html which is where everyone says the answer lies. One suggestion was "Turned off Wake on LAN in the bios and it works fine now."
[03:12] <Agnes_Leroy> dcordes: I think I can make it work, even if it is not supporting it out-of-the-box.
[03:12] <Cerealklr> thune3: Way ahead of you. I already found that and cried a little when I found that the website was out. I then found a manual set of instructions, but it had an IP based link to a server that had the drivers for me to compile, (the link obviously being long dead) been searching for an alternative source of the driver since.
[03:12] <Cerealklr> thune3: the guide is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+bug/141343/comments/21
[03:15] <thune3> Cerealklr: still for a driver to work the device needs to appear on lspci, and i'm wondering if the "wake on lan" issue is blocking on this first step. Those instruction are 2 years old, and may or may not still be applicable.
[03:15] <Cerealklr> thune3: I believe I found the drivers on Realteks website.
[03:16] <Cerealklr> thune3: Should it be enabled or disabled? I can restart and change the settings.
[03:16] <Cerealklr> In fact, once I download these, i'll try that.
[03:16] <thune3> Cerealklr: the quote was "Turned off Wake on LAN in the bios and it works fine now."
[03:17] <Cerealklr> thunr3: I believe it was already disabled, but will check momentarily.
[03:17] <Slix`> The nomodeset seemed to help, but I still ran into problems. Each time I tried to boot Ubuntu from the CD with nomodeset from Advanced Options. The first time, the loading screen froze on red-white-white-white. The second time, the loading screen froze at all red. For a second, I thought this meant that the boot suceeded, and there was some activitiy on the cd drive, but then it stopped and froze.
[03:17] <happyface> I have a usb drive with 3 partitions - gparted doesn't see any though! what do I do?
[03:18] <Slix`> The third time, I had just a blank screen. The forth time, the screen froze on a white underscore in the top-left.
[03:18] <mgolisch> happyface: what is that drive?
[03:19] <mgolisch> happyface: and does gparted not see any partitions or not see the drive at all?
[03:19] <Cerealklr> thune3: restarting to check.
[03:20] <Slix`> I had similar boot problems in the last Ubuntu version a few months ago, as well as on my currently installed Ubuntu (which I want to completely reinstall)
[03:21] <xxiao_> anyone used valgrind on 10.04?
[03:21] <Slix`> I do have an nvidia geforce gtx 260 graphics card.
[03:21] <xxiao_> valgrind ls : definitely lost: 120 bytes in 1 blocks
[03:22] <Slix`> I'm sort of confused as to why Ubuntu is booting up with seemingly random errors.
[03:22] <xxiao_> so, "ls" has memory leak?
[03:23] <happyface> mgolisch: it sees the drive (/dev/sdb) but just says "unallocated" when there are 3 partitions
[03:23] <Cerealklr> thune3: Nope. It was actually enabled, but was not the cause of the issue. lspci still doesn't show any change.
[03:24] <Slix`> Should I post a topic on the forums? There isn't much data I can provide since these freezes seem to come at random parts of the process.
[03:24] <Traveler7> why would i not have sound in runescape?
[03:25] <mgolisch> happyface: what are those partitions? how did you create them?
[03:25]  * Slix` will check highlights when he gets back in a few minutes
[03:26] <Bogus8> is there a way to pull up the package installer screen (like when you first install the system) I pressed ENTER instead of SPACE BAR and didn't install LAMP and don't feel like installing them all seperate
[03:26] <thune3> Cerealklr: hmmm. i would recommend the path you are on. btw, *sometimes* it helps to powerdown and pull the plug so the motherboard actually powers down. Since something like the NIC is usually always powered. A reboot should reset all hardware, but sometimes it doesn't.
[03:27] <Traveler7> why would java not use swap?
[03:27] <Linux_Kernal> hi all :)
[03:27] <xuxc0001> hi
[03:27] <Cerealklr> thune3: fair enough. I'll give that a last try hail mary-style before I dive in to the fine art of driver-bashing using 2 year old guides. xD Thank you for all the help so far, you've been crucial to getting this far. Be back soon
[03:28] <cristian> hello evrybody...
[03:28] <Linux_Kernal> im installed wine on my linux but the mirc cant write arabic :((
[03:28] <Linux_Kernal> what the solution? :(
[03:29] <Traveler7> is th3r3 a openjava support channel?
[03:29] <cristian> can somebody help me?
[03:29] <stanley_robertso> hi cristian shoot ur bug
[03:29] <stanley_robertso> what problem u r facing
[03:30] <Kid>               有谁知道win7下怎么删除文件夹吗？我刚下载的文件，安装好之后就无法把下载的文件删掉啦
[03:30] <tensorpudding> !cn | Kid
[03:30] <cristian> im trying to use wget , for basicly download movies and music and can,t find a tutorial for it
[03:30] <Bogus8> is there a way to pull up the package installer screen (like when you first install the system) I pressed ENTER instead of SPACE BAR and didn't install LAMP and don't feel like installing them all seperate... I think it's ncurses based thing
[03:31] <stanley_robertso> cristian, did you google for it ?
[03:31] <mgolisch> Bogus8: yeah
[03:31] <Linux_Kernal> !ar
[03:31] <tetsuo_> can someone tell me why i can't connect to rizon??
[03:31] <tensorpudding> !arabic
[03:31] <Linux_Kernal> thx :)
[03:31] <cristian> yes i find a lot of help but cant understand it
[03:32] <cristian> is too tecchnical for me
[03:32] <Linux_Kernal> loool
[03:32] <mgolisch> Bogus8: its named tasksel
[03:32] <stanley_robertso> check this cristian http://qcd.nersc.gov/utilities/wget_notes.html
[03:32] <candice> I just installed ubuntu on a laptop w. intel 2200BG wifi and it doesn't appear to be aworking...
[03:32] <stanley_robertso> a simple one
[03:32] <Linux_Kernal> in arabic supoort just me and chanserv
[03:32] <Linux_Kernal> lol
[03:32] <candice> can anyone help?
[03:32] <Bogus8> thanks mgolisch
[03:33] <stanley_robertso> check this one cristian http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/html_node/Advanced-Usage.html
[03:33] <cristian> stanley:thanks a lot, ill have a look right now
[03:33] <stanley_robertso> candice, shoot ur question.. somebody might be able to help you
[03:34] <stanley_robertso> candice, what error you are getting... after installation
[03:34] <candice> i did. intel 2200 BG wifi, shows up in lspci, but no wifi connection
[03:34] <Traveler7> how to get better frame rate in runescape?
[03:34] <Bogus8> glad I did that... I was forgetting a few other things that I would have manually had to go back and do... this saves so much time
[03:35] <Crown> duel?a
[03:36] <Crown> anyone?
[03:36] <stanley_robertso> candice, did you google for it.. check this link .. found good .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[03:36] <stanley_robertso> Crown, what is the problem u r facing.. shoot ur question
[03:36] <esteban> hello, i woul like to know how can i uninstall a tarball package
[03:37] <candice> stanley_robertso: thhanks
[03:38] <thune3> esteban: you compiled "make" and installed "make install" some sofware? or you just unpacked a tar archive?
[03:38] <esteban> the firt one
[03:39] <stanley_robertso> esteban, then you can simply do "make uninstall" or "make clean" right ?
[03:39] <esteban> in what folder?
[03:39] <stanley_robertso> esteban, in the same folder where you have your makefile [ the time when you are installing the source compiled ]
[03:40] <blitzo> hi - tried to install a reverse dnc package called gitso and got some errors i don't understand can anyone help?
[03:41] <stanley_robertso> blitzo, what is the package name ? i will try once
[03:41] <blitzo> excuse me - that's reverse vnc, and the errors are fomr dpkg
[03:41] <blitzo> gitso and it isn't in the repo
[03:41] <esteban> done it!
[03:42] <meoblast001> hi, i have a bit of a problem
[03:42] <meoblast001> http://imagebin.org/105748
[03:42] <candice> stanley_robertso: that wifi doc says its out of date. it should work out of the box on recent ubuntus
[03:42] <esteban> and what was happened if i was removed the sources once installed (because I dont need it more)
[03:42] <blitzo> stanley_robertso it says several packages are half-configured and it won't run
[03:42] <UberN00b> hello world
[03:43] <blitzo> stanley_robertso the package is gitso and it isn't in the repo
[03:43] <stanley_robertso> esteban, simple .. get the source again.. run "configure" and then run "make clean" or make uninstall
[03:43] <mgolisch> what do you need it for?
[03:43] <klappi> UberN00b: foobar
[03:43] <blitzo> stanley_robertso http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gitso-frontend-to-reverse-vnc-connections.html
[03:43] <stanley_robertso> hi UberN00b
[03:43] <stanley_robertso> blitzo, iam checking the link
[03:43] <esteban> dpkg cant get this information. it seems more... tidy   ;)
[03:44] <esteban> ?
[03:44] <meoblast001> ok, so full error message "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tomcat6/libservlet2.5-java_6.0.24-2ubuntu1.1_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]"
[03:44] <meoblast001> should i switch repos and try again?
[03:44] <stanley_robertso> candice, guess you might need to google for it.. i will also check and paste if i find any good link
[03:44] <candice> thanks
[03:44] <thune3> esteban: use checkinstall to inform apt of custom software you are installing, then you can use apt/dpkg for uninstall
[03:45] <esteban> configure > make > checkinstall,   oki doki  thanks all
[03:46] <stanley_robertso> blitzo,  are the steps mentioned in the webpage/weblink.. working for you [ i mean the first step itself fails for me ]
[03:46] <stanley_robertso> esteban, cool ... you got it
[03:46] <Jordan_U> blitzo: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[03:47] <stanley_robertso> thanks Jordan_U i was about to say the same to blitzo so that.. we can check :)
[03:48] <blitzo> jordan_u what is pastebin
[03:49] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | blitzo
[03:50] <mgolisch> meoblast001: tried to refresh the package list?
[03:50] <mgolisch> meoblast001: the package probably got replaced and removed from the mirror
[03:50] <meoblast001> ah, ok
[03:51] <meoblast001> i'm attempting the rit.edu repository
[03:53] <Spirits-Sight> Since I installed ubuntu 10.04 I can not get my printer HP photosmart 2700 all-in-one to work any ideas?
[03:55] <cristian> ive just had a look to the page but is very advanced for me
[03:55] <cristian> ive just had a look to the page but is very advanced for me
[03:56] <cristian> ive just had a look to the page but is very advanced for me....
[03:56] <cristian> if
[04:01] <blitzo> ok i did pastebin but i have no idea what i did or where the text went or what i'm supposed to do with it
[04:02] <blitzo> jordan_u i did pastebin but i have no idea what i did or where the text went or what i'm supposed to do with it
[04:04] <blitzo> jordan_u why doesn't dpkg either fetch dependencies or refuse to install because they don't exist?  this business or ignoring them and then failing is just bad news.  maybe i got spoiled by redhat
[04:05] <ShapeShifter499> how stable is 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:05] <mgolisch> blitzo: dpkg doenst install stuff if dependent packages are not installed first
[04:05] <Slix`> o_o
[04:05] <blitzo> mgolisch but it did install it without the dependencies
[04:06] <mgolisch> did you force it to?
[04:06] <Slix`> What should I do if Ubuntu refuses to boot? It either freezes at the loading screen or at an underscore or at a blank screen.
[04:06] <mgolisch> you did dpkg -i foo.deb and it broke ?
[04:06] <blitzo> mgolisch no i just did dpkg -i - and it installed but with a ton of errors, but it installed and it's on the menu and it crashes if i try to run it
[04:06] <UberN00b> just downloaded this:
[04:06] <UberN00b> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/New+Wave+Lock-Dialog+Theme?content=125281
[04:07] <UberN00b> and i cant copy the files to usr/share/gnome-screensaver
[04:07] <thune3> Slix`: do you know what graphics chip you have? or do you have the make/model for the computer?
[04:08] <UberN00b> and i just defined my acct as admin, so that means Im root as well ... right ? XD
[04:08] <Slix`> thune3: I have an nVidia GTX 260. The computer is custom-built.
[04:09] <blitzo> mgolisch are you talking to me?  please use my nick so i know
[04:09] <thune3> UberN00b: adding admin group just allows user to use sudo
[04:09] <mgolisch> blitzo: what that thing anyways?
[04:09] <Slix`> thune3: During those boots, I used nomodeset.
[04:09] <UberN00b> thune3, how do I get access to that folder then ?
[04:10] <blitzo> mgolisch it is a front end to reverse vnc http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gitso-frontend-to-reverse-vnc-connections.html
[04:10] <Spirits-Sight> Since I installed ubuntu 10.04 I can not get my printer HP photosmart 2700 all-in-one to work any ideas?
[04:10] <thune3> UberN00b: sudo cp blahblah /usr/share/...
[04:11] <thune3> Slix`: did you install 'proprietary' nvidia drivers?
[04:12] <Slix`> thune3: I don't boot into Ubuntu. I'm running off of the disc right now. However, I have similar problems on my Ubuntu installation.
[04:12] <mgolisch> blitzo: why didnt you use gdebi?
[04:12] <xxiao_> believe it or not, 'ls' has memory leak as valgrind reported
[04:13] <xxiao_> i keep running 'ls' and the memory keep deminishing
[04:13] <UberN00b> thune3 i get No such file or directory
[04:13] <UberN00b> and the name of the file is right
[04:14] <blitzo> mgolisch i just googled, this popped up and it looked good - shoulda asked here first
[04:14] <blitzo> mgolisch how do i uninstall gitso
[04:14] <thune3> Slix`: you might try xforcevesa if nomodeset isn't working out. Does the system also have integrated graphics?
[04:15] <mgolisch> it tries to resolve depencies if you install a single deb thats not from a repo
[04:15] <blitzo> mgolisch please use my nick
[04:15] <thune3> UberN00b: if you show the *exact* command, i might be able to tell what is wrong
[04:15] <Slix`> thune3: No.
[04:16] <Slix`> I'll try that. Should i try it with nomodeset?
[04:16] <blitzo> mgolisch can you tell me how to remove this package from my system?  it is partly installed and broken
[04:16] <mgolisch> blitzo: you can try to remove it using dpkg
[04:17] <thune3> Slix`: i think the standard reccomendation is without, but i'm not sure it matters. I *believe* the standard recommendation is to just use such a workaround until you can install proprietary drivers (for an installed system)
[04:17] <Slix`> Okay. Thanks!
[04:17] <blitzo> moglisch what are the options to dpkg to remove a package?
[04:17] <zebradog> i'm looking for a NAS box, any recommends?
[04:18] <blitzo> mgolisch what are the options to dpkg to remove a package
[04:18] <Alazare> anything with a 1.6 atom will work
[04:18] <Alazare> and up of course
[04:19] <mgolisch> blitzo: dpkg --remove packagename
[04:19] <preet> would anyone be willing to describe how I can compile a kernel module and 'add' it or make it part of my current kernel?
[04:21] <blitzo> mgolisch when you tell someone to do something please tell them how to do it, and preferably why to do it so they don't screw something up like i just did *sigh*
[04:23] <jsimmons> how I ht some key combo and turned on some zoom feature
[04:23] <matelot> I'm building a program from source, downloaded and extracted the tgz: question, where should I put the extracted dir ?
[04:23] <jsimmons> so wondering how to turn it off
[04:24] <thune3> matelot: somewhere in your home directory, it is up to you exactly where.
[04:24] <blitzo> mgolisch and don't say "why didn't you do something" to someone who didn;'t know he was supposed to do it.  sheesh.  how does that help anything.
[04:25] <matelot> thune3: after I "make", this dir can or can not be deleted ?
[04:25] <jsimmons> Somewhere under your home directory, matelot, I have a folder 'packages' underneath home where I keep  all source tarballs and extracted directories.
[04:25] <mgolisch> blitzo: so it didnt remove it?
[04:25] <matelot> jsimmons: can I delete the dir after "make" ?
[04:26] <jsimmons> well if you 'make install' matelot, you probably want to keep it around so you can 'make uninstall'.
[04:26] <thune3> matelot: if you install the software using "checkinstall" method, then you can delete it. Otherwise you might need the directory again to "make uninstall"
[04:26] <matelot> is "make linux" a valid command ?
[04:26] <jsimmons> depends on the makefile matelot
[04:26] <matelot> oh
[04:27] <mgolisch> if it has a target by that name = yes
[04:27] <jsimmons> Lua, for example does have a linux target. So you would use 'make linux', but it depends entirely on the makefile.
[04:28] <jsimmons> I'm going to be really annoying and repeat myself because this is giving me the shits; I've hit some accessibility combo and enabled zoom on the desktop, and I have no idea how to disable it.
[04:29] <mgolisch> blitzo: i just wondered as the default action associated with deb files is uusaly to install them using gdebi which will try to resolve depencies from the confgured repositories
[04:29] <mgolisch> jsimmons: winkey - mouse scroll?
[04:30] <matelot> jsimmons: "cannot create regular file `/usr/local/bin/rtmpdump': Permission denied" --- should I use add "sudo" to the "make install" ?
[04:30] <endeavormac> is there a way to not have ubuntu play the audio through my microphone by default?
[04:30] <blitzo> mgolisch i have done, and i installed the dependencies
[04:30] <endeavormac> i/e disable the microphone loopback?
[04:30] <jsimmons> yeah matelot, you need sudo to install anything to system folders, as you are doing in this ccase.
[04:31] <jsimmons> ah thanks mgolisch, much better.
[04:31] <jsimmons> why is that even enabled by default
[04:31] <jsimmons> and where can I turn it off
[04:31] <mgolisch> in ccsm
[04:31] <matelot> thanks jsimmons thune3
[04:32] <Zeddikus> Where in Ubuntu is the Grub menu file and what is it called?
[04:32] <jsimmons> oh it's under 'enhanced zoom desktop' not 'zoom desktop' mgolisch.
[04:32] <mgolisch> hehe
[04:32] <mgolisch> anyways time for bed
[04:32] <mgolisch> night guys
[04:33] <jsimmons> much easier to see when you're not zoomed all the way in :P
[04:33] <MaxBerg> whats wrong when i boot my fedora kde disc but ''root device failed'' shows up ?
[04:34] <MaxBerg> with ubuntu there wasnt any problem like this but i want to try fedora kde
[04:34] <fsckroot> installed 10.10 last night :3
[04:34] <fsckroot> favourite release so far
[04:34] <H2OyJaBoN> hi guys!
[04:34] <H2OyJaBoN> is there a wayt to play .rmvb files?
[04:35] <UberN00b> hi H20yJaBoN
[04:35] <jsimmons> maybe you should ask in a channel dedicated to fedora, rather than one dedicated to ubuntu, MaxBerg.
[04:35] <MaxBerg> ok thanks :)
[04:36] <Anarch> I'm trying Hardy on a system whose monitor can't display the graphics.  I can get to a text console, which works.  Is there a way to restart X telling it to use more conservative video parameters, or to test various parameters?
[04:36] <littlebear> anyone can help on postfix? http://wiki.littlebearz.com/wiki/index.php?title=Debug_postfix
[04:38] <wmcinnis> hello all working with new ubuntu and i have a ati 5730 I have the binary drivers installed but when i move a window i get bad video tearing. any ideals on how to fix this?
[04:38] <bk2> has anyone been able to interface a iRiver mp3 player to Ubuntu.  I'm talking specifically about ifp-gnome
[04:38] <UberN00b> how can i change the permissions of usr/share/gnome-screensaver ? ..apparently its all read-only
[04:38] <wmcinnis> sudo chmod 777 /usr/share/gnome-screensaver
[04:39] <UberN00b> thanks wmcinnis
[04:39] <wmcinnis> UberN00b, np
[04:46] <MaxBerg> what is better and faster - fedora kde or ubuntu ?
[04:47] <UberN00b> MaxBerg, kde v gnome or fedora v xubuntu ?
[04:47] <manyvolts> MaxBerg: I'd recommend ubuntu over fedora because of the package manager ("APT" - Advanced package tool).
[04:47] <manyvolts> Anybody here knowledgeable about grub (version 0.97) ?  I'm having a problem with menu.lst.
[04:48] <blitzo> anybody: ubuntu crashed and hung in the middle of an apt-get upgrade - how do i recover?
[04:49] <MaxBerg> can i play gta 4 with wine ? :)
[04:49] <blitzo> ubuntu crashed and hung in the middle of an apt-get upgrade: how do i recover?
[04:51] <iflema> MaxBerg try playing gta4 on winblows, i hear it works well :P
[04:51] <Jordan_U> blitzo: Hungas in completely froze? Did you ever get connected via ssh/vnc?
[04:51] <blitzo> jordan_u i am just about ot
[04:52] <blitzo> jordan_u crashed and hung means it froze and had to be power cycled
[04:52] <hyperactivecrond> is there any way to install ubuntu automatically?
[04:52] <Tamnakz> 8.10
[04:52] <Tamnakz> how do I take a screenshot?
[04:52] <hyperactivecrond> Tamnakz: gnome-screenshot
[04:52] <UberN00b> su: Authentication failure ...?
[04:53] <Tamnakz> hyperactivecrond I'm a newb, can you elaborate?
[04:53] <Jordan_U> !root | UberN00b
[04:53] <hyperactivecrond> yay matrix references
[04:53] <Flannel> Tamnakz: Also, 8.10 has reached End of Life status (as of April) you should strongly consider upgrading
[04:53] <Tamnakz> I've been told. . .
[04:53] <hyperactivecrond> Tamnakz: run gnome-screenshot from the command line or run command box.
[04:53] <Tamnakz> flannel, can you explain how I'm to take a screenshot?
[04:53] <Tamnakz> ok
[04:54] <iflema> !automate | hyperactivecrond
[04:54] <slinkeey> hello
[04:54] <UberN00b> ..ehh the bot hates me, anyway im on the administrator acct, why is it that i cannot log in as root ?
[04:55] <hyperactivecrond> UberN00b: you don't need to.
[04:55] <Jordan_U> UberN00b: Read the link from ubottu
[04:55] <slinkeey> Do I need to do anything special to use a PPP connection?  The connection shows up with ifconfig.. The route also shows up with sbin/route -n
[04:56] <MaRk-I> blitzo: try : sudo apt-get --configure -a    OR sudo apt-get -f install
[04:56] <UberN00b> oh i though i have to, i got permission denied, for trying to set up permission  :D
[04:56] <UberN00b> ..off to the link
[04:56] <hyperactivecrond> UberN00b: Unlike other linuxes, you /can't/ log in as 'root' by default. you use sudo to run commands root would ordinarly run.
[04:56] <Jordan_U> blitzo: For your dependency issues did you try "sudo apt-get -f install"? (dpkg doesn't download packages, so it can't resolve missing dependencies on its own. That's what apt is for)
[04:56] <slinkeey> Should I paste my ifconfig output here?
[04:57] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | slinkeey
[04:57] <thune3> slinkeey: i'd rather see your route. (both would be good) in pastebin
[04:57] <UberN00b> hyperactivecrond oh oh, but then why am i denied permission to editing the permissions ?
[04:58] <hyperactivecrond> UberN00b: permissions for what?
[04:58] <tuxrocks> hi
[04:58] <slinkeey> ok i will be back
[04:58] <Jordan_U> UberN00b: Please read the link from ubttu before asking further questions.
[04:59] <hyperactivecrond> btw the -s argument to sudo doesn't exist :p
[05:00] <Flannel> hyperactivecrond: Yes it does, but you likely want -i anyway
[05:01] <hyperactivecrond> Flannel: i'm aware. but i think it might cause more harm than good in this case.
[05:01] <mikeru> how can I use 'find' to find files without its full name - e.g. find a file named foobar with only foo?
[05:01] <thune3> mikeru: -name "foo*" or -name "*foo*"
[05:01] <mikeru> thune3: thanks
[05:01] <slinkeey> thune3, http://paste.ubuntu.com/465303/
[05:01] <kimball> Hey everyone, im looking for new things to try out on backtrack 4 any suggestions? Eg. Hacking wep, session jacking etc.
[05:02] <hyperactivecrond> kimball: ddos 127.0.0.1
[05:02] <hyperactivecrond> :P
[05:02] <Flannel> hyperactivecrond: Which case is this?
[05:02] <hyperactivecrond> Flannel, can I /msg you
[05:02] <Flannel> hyperactivecrond: Sure
[05:03] <mikeru> slinkeey: pastebin for only one line?? well, he/she would have to have used that same line for the url, yknow?
[05:03] <hyperactivecrond> is it possible for the alternate installer to start an ssh daemon?
[05:04] <slinkeey> mikeru, huh?
[05:05] <kimball> Hey everyone, im looking for new things to try out on backtrack 4 any suggestions? Eg. Hacking wep, session jacking etc.
[05:06] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | kimball
[05:06] <slinkeey> The pastebin has ifconfig and route info
[05:07] <thune3> slinkeey: might need 'route add default ppp0' command. i'm not 100% how to read it for ppp. Also check that /etc/resolv.conf has dns servers listed. You should be good.
[05:08] <slinkeey> see i even tied to get to google via ip address in firefox and it doesn't connect
[05:08] <slinkeey> tried
[05:08] <slinkeey> I thought dns was my issue
[05:09] <hyperactivecrond> slinkeey: sudo dhclient ppp0 ?
[05:11] <slinkeey> ok
[05:12] <slinkeey> hyperactivecrond, http://paste.ubuntu.com/465306/
[05:12] <hyperactivecrond> slinkeey: then it's not picking up a DHCP ip address
[05:12] <slinkeey> ahhh ok
[05:12] <slinkeey> hyperactivecrond, thanks
[05:12] <hyperactivecrond> slinkeey: sorry you already have an IP address
[05:13] <hyperactivecrond> so my step was not needed.
[05:13] <LoneTech> hello. is it possible to have both desktop and netbook interfaces in the same system? I tried installing ubuntu-netbook package but got a mix (netbook launcher, desktop wm and panels)
[05:14] <slinkeey> hyperactivecrond, I am useping ppp for my blackberry modem
[05:14] <stanley_robertso> hi  all.. am back
[05:14] <hyperactivecrond> slinkeey: ah. got it.
[05:14] <illac> LoneTech: I installed NBR and just disabled the desktop type, not sure if you can mix them, try gnome 3 maybe?
[05:14] <slinkeey> hyperactivecrond, does that eveal anything?
[05:14] <slinkeey> reveal
[05:14] <hyperactivecrond> slinkeey: try doing 'ping 173.194.33.104' from your command line
[05:14] <hyperactivecrond> see if that works
[05:14] <hyperactivecrond> that IP is a google server
[05:14] <Zambz> hey guys, kinda getting annoyed with all the password prompts in ubuntu, keyring, unlock password, login password, can i disable them all entirely?
[05:14] <LoneTech> disabled how? I'd prefer to have different accounts run different interfaces.
[05:15] <slinkeey> I tried that :)
[05:15] <hyperactivecrond> slinkeey: no good?
[05:16] <slinkeey> hyperactivecrond, nope
[05:16] <hyperactivecrond> :(
[05:16] <illac> LoneTech: hold on give me a second, I forget, I know in the NBR interface it's something like "Desktop Mode" or something 1 sec while I find it
[05:16] <slinkeey> hyperactivecrond, does netwok manage get in the way?
[05:16] <hyperactivecrond> slinkeey: not necessarily
[05:16] <LoneTech> Zambz: it's certainly possible to have no password (passwd -d) and keyrings that don't require a password (dunno how to disable, normally you set the password on creation), but of course you lose the option to lock your login then
[05:17] <LoneTech> illac: thank you, it's not urgent
[05:17] <Zambz> LoneTech: cool mate, only thing i notice though, is when running sudo <command> and it prompts for password, it won't accept a blank password if i passwd -d it
[05:17] <slinkeey> yeah the berry gives me an ip addess
[05:17] <Zambz> would i then have to force the NOPASSWD option in the sudoers file?
[05:17] <slinkeey> and i get a route
[05:17] <hyperactivecrond> slinkeey: route add default gw whatever.your.default.gateway.is
[05:18] <slinkeey> like thune3 said?
[05:18] <LoneTech> Zambz: NOPASSWD would tell sudo to never require a password, whether it's set or not. I guess the sudo pam config can be set not to accept empty passwords.
[05:18] <tuxrocks> i get this error on make
[05:18] <tuxrocks> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:18] <Zambz> LoneTech: ahh got ya, thanks heaps for all your help!
[05:18] <tuxrocks> ./configure error
[05:18] <slinkeey> route add default ppp0
[05:18] <Zambz> ok will bbs, gonna go play with it more now :) peace
[05:19] <blitzo> i just tried to install by dpkg and it failed - how do i find out what went wrong?
[05:19] <LoneTech> blitzo: usually by reading what it printed, dpkg is quite verbose
[05:19] <hyperactivecrond> sudo route add default gw ppp0 ?
[05:20] <Slix`> o_o
[05:20] <Slix`> Rawr?
[05:20] <LoneTech> hyperactivecrond: ppp0 sounds like a network device name, not a gateway - try dev ppp0
[05:20] <illac> LoneTech: wow I cannot find it now that I'm in regular Gnome
[05:21] <LoneTech> illac: thanks for your help all the same
[05:21] <slinkeey> d
[05:22] <hyperactivecrond> odd
[05:22] <hyperactivecrond> i have no idear.
[05:22] <illac> LoneTech: okay, in NBR ui go to System
[05:22] <slinkeey> yeah route add default ppp0 did get me there....
[05:22] <illac> LoneTech: then click Switch Desktop Mode
[05:23] <illac> LoneTech: that should let you pick between regular Gnome and NBR
[05:23] <slinkeey> ppp0 is the network device that shows up in  ifconfig
[05:23] <LoneTech> thanks, will try
[05:23] <illac> LoneTech: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2448/3878918460_1703d43d02.jpg
[05:23] <illac> LoneTech: screenshot of what you're looking for
[05:23] <chet-> hello
[05:23] <illac> LoneTech: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2448/3878918460_0d6e765d78_o.png
[05:24] <chet-> whats going on in here
[05:26] <claptrap> So, I can't get any libnotify pop-ups to show when WoW is running.
[05:29] <bullgard4> http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en: "In addition, desktop files are provided for starting various AT programs if the configuration values specified in the Accessibility Configuration section below are set." What is an »AT program«?
[05:29] <illac> claptrap: that sounds like a feature to me ;)
[05:30] <LoneTech> illac: that option wasn't there. it might be in a package I'm missing. it gives me something to look for, at least
[05:30] <claptrap> They don't pop up anywhere, though. )= Even on another desktop. qq
[05:30] <amanthakur> hi guys, I want to compile the autofs and squashfs as kernel modules. I have their source files. Can anyone tell me how can i do so??????
[05:31] <corey> corey
[05:31] <illac> LoneTech: yea it was in 9.10, I haven't installed 10.4 NBR, maybe they changed it?
[05:31] <LoneTech> problem is, I have a desktop edition system I'm trying to upgrade to netbook configuration too, it wasn't installed from netbook edition
[05:31] <Relaed> I have 2 domains on one ip, and I setup a virtual domain for that. DomainA works just fine, but DomainB continues being pointed to B.com:8080
[05:31] <kim_Linux> Who can speak chinese?
[05:32] <Relaed> Anyone know why ?
[05:33] <illac> !info Desktop-Switcher | LoneTech
[05:34] <illac> hmmmm
[05:35] <josephseraos> who can say me how can I to get a invite to enter in java channel?
[05:35] <illac> LoneTech: http://www.liliputing.com/2009/02/how-to-quickly-switch-ubuntu-netbook-remix-interface-on-and-off.html
[05:35] <rww> ubottu: tell josephseraos about register
[05:36] <illac> ubottu: tell illac you love him
[05:36] <illac> lol!
[05:36] <illac> sorry, had to try that
[05:36] <iflema> LoneTech on 10.04 UNR you can switch between it and Gnome at the log in screen.....
[05:37] <illac> iflema: why didn't I think of that :D
[05:38] <delinquentme> is there a way to change the "hit area" for a resize window ... mines really small and makes it hella akward to try and resize the window
[05:38] <LoneTech> iflema: yes, I can select it - but it's not working right. if I choose 2d, the launcher shows up, but the desktop is desktop mode, and the launcher exits after selecting one program. odd.
[05:39] <LoneTech> if I choose the netbook option that's not marked 2d, X starts restarting over and over
[05:39] <josephseraos> rww, could you help me?
[05:40] <rww> josephseraos: I don't know Java, and registration help is in #freenode, not here.
[05:41] <josephseraos> rww,  because when I try connect #java, I receive a message saying I need to have a invite
[05:41] <pish> Hi, which of these two combinations could run faster? xubuntu lucid or ubuntu server+minimal gnome ?
[05:41] <rww> josephseraos: try ##java
[05:42] <thune3> delinquentme: this is a common complaint, if someone has an answer I'd love to hear it myself! The only workaround I know is the alt-middlle_mousebutton dragging in the general area of the corner you want to resize.
[05:42] <xangua> pish: do you want a server or a deskt
[05:42] <xangua> desktop*
[05:42] <delinquentme> Ohhhh ! nice ive been using alt + f8 but thats a little faster
[05:42] <pish> xangua, thanks. A desktop
[05:42] <delinquentme> thune3, awww yeahh NICe man thanks
[05:44] <kim_linux> 请求了音乐信使会话。请单击 MM 图标接受。
[05:44] <xangua> pish: then install the desktop version
[05:45] <pish> xangua, the problem is that the box is a P3/512MB and a Ubuntu Desktop Lucid runs to slow.
[05:46] <pish> too slow*
[05:46] <bullgard4> http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en: "In addition, desktop files are provided for starting various AT programs if the configuration values specified in the Accessibility Configuration section below are set." What is an »AT program«?
[05:47] <pish> xangua, I tried Debian Lenny but has some older packages and cannot install some apps on it. Tried xubuntu but after some customizations and installed apps, started to run kind of slow.
[05:47] <xangua> pish: you may wanna try then kubuntu, it uses lxde desktop (much lighter than xfce and gnome)
[05:47] <xangua> !lubuntu
[05:49] <pish> xangua, thanks. I don't know if any of the apps I need will run on lxde, for instance: rabbitvcs, dropbox, etc. That's why I was looking for some gnome/xfce "light" option.
[05:50] <mah2223> hi guys, does anyone know if norton ghost 15 works correctly with norton ghost??
[05:50] <mah2223> *with ubuntu
[05:50] <pish> xangua, so I thought the "lightest" options could be xubuntu or ubuntu server+kind of minimal gnome
[05:50] <tuxrocks> mah2223: no
[05:50] <mah2223> no, it doesn't?
[05:50] <tuxrocks> what is it
[05:51] <mah2223> tuxrocks i'm not sure what you mean
[05:51] <tuxrocks> what is noton ghost
[05:51] <tuxrocks> *r
[05:51] <mah2223> oh norton ghost saves images of your hard drive for back up purposes
[05:51] <mah2223> it wouldn't be run from ubuntu
[05:52] <tuxrocks> what is it...in exe form?
[05:52] <mah2223> im just wondering if i can use it from my windows partition to back up my ubuntu drive
[05:52] <Axilus> does anyone know how to reload the .profile without relogging?
[05:52] <mah2223> yeah its like a windows program
[05:52] <tuxrocks> mah2223: backup ubuntu partition?
[05:53] <LoneTech> ghost is like partition imager, but as it's a recovery thingy it has a mix of windows program and standalone system.. it's possible to use along with linux, but not designed for it.
[05:53] <mah2223> tuxrocks yeah
[05:53] <amanthakur> can anyone tell me which packages consists LEX program???
[05:53] <amanthakur> !lex
[05:53] <LoneTech> amanthakur: flex
[05:53] <mah2223> lonetech do you know if it works with ubuntu??
[05:53] <Axilus> How do you reload ./.profile without logging out and back in again?
[05:53] <amanthakur> LoneTech, thanks man....:)
[05:54] <tuxrocks> mah2223: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[05:54] <LoneTech> it doesn't run *from* ubuntu, but it can technically backup and recover ubuntu partitions. it may be tricky to get it to cooperate with the bootloader. in short, not easily.
[05:55] <linux_is_my_hero> helpo me, i cant play dvd's in 9.10 :-(
[05:55] <mah2223> thank you tuxrocks
[05:55] <mah2223> so lonetech are there alternatives?
[05:55] <amanthakur> LoneTech, and YACC???
[05:55] <tuxrocks> linux_is_my_hero: what is in it
[05:55] <mah2223> for either grub or norton ghost?
[05:55] <LoneTech> amanthakur: bison
[05:55] <amanthakur> LoneTech, thanks again....:)
[05:55] <linux_is_my_hero> its a video dvd, bought from a store.
[05:55] <linux_is_my_hero> from best buy.
[05:56] <linux_is_my_hero> the disc plays in all my other computers (2 of them)
[05:56] <tuxrocks> linux_is_my_hero: wat is the error you getting
[05:56] <linux_is_my_hero> my drive sees the disc, but when i try and open it with movie player, i get nothing.
[05:56] <LoneTech> mah2223: yes, but I don't know which are halway easy to use.
[05:56] <tuxrocks> linux_is_my_hero: try installing vlc
[05:56] <linux_is_my_hero> it opens movie player, then movie player very quickly closes itself.
[05:57] <linux_is_my_hero> sudo apt-get install vlc?
[05:57] <tuxrocks> linux_is_my_hero: ya
[05:57] <mah2223> hmm well do you suggest researching alternative bootloaders or alternative partition imagers
[05:57] <mah2223> lonetech
[05:57] <tuxrocks> linux_is_my_hero: or you can from software center
[05:58] <thune3> Axilus: i'm not sure what you are trying to do, you could always "source ~/.profile" to get it to apply to the current shell (even though it may add redundant things to env variables)
[05:58] <LoneTech> mah2223: not familiar with any enough to suggest them, sorry. partimage is the one I come to think of.
[05:59] <Redcl0ud> Linux_is_my_hero: if you check out http://www.linuxhaxor.net/?paged=5 there is a video there that should help you with your problem
[05:59] <stanley_robertso> linux_is_my_hero, did you get your problem resolved.. about vlc ?
[05:59] <stanley_robertso> i installed vlc.. using apt-get install.. and it went fine
[05:59] <amanthakur> LoneTech, can i specify the custom location for installing squashfs with make command rather than configure since i don't have any configure file?
[06:01] <LoneTech> amanthakur: sorry, I haven't been following and don't know what you're talking about now.
[06:01] <bullgard4> http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en: "In addition, desktop files are provided for starting various AT programs if the configuration values specified in the Accessibility Configuration section below are set." What is an »AT program«?
[06:01] <linux_is_my_hero> stanley_robertso: no, im gunna try it again but this time from the ubuntu software center.
[06:01] <Axilus> thune3, what do you mean, 'may add redundant things lol'
[06:01] <linux_is_my_hero> its doing the same damn thing, it tries to open the disc then immediately closes. fuck.
[06:02] <Axilus> I added two export lines and I just want to know how to update it without logging out and logging back in
[06:02] <UberN00b> im off, see you later everyone
[06:02] <stanley_robertso> linux_is_my_hero, what error you got.. when you tried using apt-get
[06:02] <linux_is_my_hero> stanley_robertso: i dont get an error, im just reinstalling it from the ubuntu software center, because i noticed that when i double-click on somethign and go to "open with," it doesn't include VLC on the list
[06:03] <Redcl0ud> linux_is_my_hero, did you see the link I posted?
[06:03] <amanthakur> LoneTech, i just wanted to know that can we install a program on a custom location with make command? Like we do with configure for example ./configure --prefix=/usr/local  ????
[06:03] <linux_is_my_hero> stanley_Robertso: it also won't open the damn file, vlc just closes like media player does.
[06:03] <stanley_robertso> linux_is_my_hero, oh ok .. let us know.. if you face any issues
[06:03] <stanley_robertso> linux_is_my_hero, good luck
[06:05] <thune3> Axilus: i just mean if .profile has already added something to a path, 'source'ing it will add it again. I don't have any idea how to get it to apply globally without loggin in again.
[06:05] <IdleOne> bullgard4: AT =  Accessbility Tools
[06:06] <linux_is_my_hero> redcloud: working piece by piece here
[06:06] <LoneTech> amanthakur: make doesn't really decide, it's all up to the makefile, but often there's a PREFIX= or DESTDIR= variable you can set.
[06:06] <Redcl0ud> I ran into the same problems as linux_is_my_hero and I watched a video and used medibuntu and a few other things and it fixed my problem
[06:06] <linux_is_my_hero> :-)
[06:06] <IdleOne> bullgard4: section 5.6.3
[06:07] <linux_is_my_hero> redcloud: i'm all ears, man
[06:07] <preet> I'm having trouble trying to talk to a device through an FTDI USB-to-Serial connector. Can anyone help me out?
[06:07] <tekniamou> word
[06:07] <Redcl0ud> linux_is_my_hero, http://www.linuxhaxor.net/?paged=5 that site has the video you should watch
[06:07] <amanthakur> LoneTech, thanks...:)
[06:08] <Redcl0ud> the young woman that did the video knows her stuff
[06:08] <CarlosGong> anybody know another auto-sync service with a native Linux client just like dropbox? Dropbox has been blocked in China so I need a replacement~
[06:08] <bullgard4> IdleOne: Excellent!   --  Thank you very much for your help.
[06:08] <dragonlinux> try Pickbox
[06:08] <LoneTech> gtg, bbl and thanks for the assistance
[06:09] <IdleOne> bullgard4: welcome
[06:09] <CarlosGong> dragonlinux: thanks :-)
[06:10] <Redcl0ud> linux_is_my_hero, she puts almost all her videos on youtube also just search for nixiepixel
[06:10] <linux_is_my_hero> lol at first i wasnt sure what we were talking about.
[06:10] <linux_is_my_hero> considering my sound doesnt work, and my roommate is home, that wouldn't go so well. lol.
[06:11] <linux_is_my_hero> :-D
[06:11] <Redcl0ud> almost everything that see says that would be important in the videos also appears on the screen
[06:11] <tuxrocks> linux_is_my_hero: ya she is hot geek
[06:12] <tuxrocks> lol
[06:12] <linux_is_my_hero> admittedly. she's cute!
[06:12] <linux_is_my_hero> redcloud: my sound doesnt work either.  anyone wanna help with that one?
[06:13] <Redcl0ud> let me see what I can do
[06:14] <linux_is_my_hero> redcloud: yeah, id rather not do a fresh reinstall :-(
[06:15] <Redcl0ud> I know what you mean I did that recently with win 7 ultimate and ubuntu
[06:15] <linux_is_my_hero> condiering i still dont know how i got flash to work on chromium
[06:15] <linux_is_my_hero> redcloud: dont get me started windows.
[06:16] <linux_is_my_hero> even if i had the fast hardware it needs, id still stay with linux.
[06:16] <linux_is_my_hero> stability and power that windows cant ever touch.
[06:16] <Redcl0ud> I am a gamer what can I say :)
[06:16] <linux_is_my_hero> redcloud: i ahve several consoles, and hdmi hookup, and a hdtv.
[06:16] <linux_is_my_hero> redcloud: although there are some games i could never get for consoles.
[06:17] <linux_is_my_hero> tuxrocks: wanna help us with my sound? :-D
[06:18] <Redcl0ud> linux_is_my_hero, you said you are using 9.10 right?
[06:18] <linux_is_my_hero> redcloud: 9.10 x64
[06:18] <tuxrocks> linux_is_my_hero: so working?
[06:19] <linux_is_my_hero> tuxrocks: is my sound working? no. redcloud and i are trying to figure it out but i could always welcome extra hands searching the internet.
[06:19] <elias_> hey, what do i do if the emarld theam manager does not work?
[06:19] <Redcl0ud> linux_is_my_hero, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html go here and try number 3 on the list for codecs
[06:20] <linux_is_my_hero> elias_: you go to bed, because at least your sound works. lol. just kidding.
[06:20] <tuxrocks> so vlc better than movie player?
[06:20] <Izinucs> since installing 10.04 on my laptop it gets much warmer then with 9.10.  sometimes down right hot.  Is there something that can be done about that?
[06:20] <elias_> like if choose the theam i want and nothing happens
[06:20] <linux_is_my_hero> tuxrocks: yes, its much better than movie player. definately remove totem movie player completely so it automatically runs movie files with vlc.
[06:21] <Redcl0ud> my only problem when I do a fresh install of ubuntu is no dvd playback everything else works fine
[06:21] <tuxrocks> linux_is_my_hero: can you play the sound files in HDD
[06:21] <Izinucs> Redcl0ud: just means you have to reinstall libdvdcss2 from the medibuntu repos
[06:21] <archana> How do i use my desktop as a server to host a small personal website ?
[06:21] <linux_is_my_hero> tuxrocks: no sound at all, no matter what. :-(
[06:21] <elias_> so....no one knows?
[06:22] <tuxrocks> hi archana
[06:22] <elias_> linux is my hero: once i thought my sound dident work then i reilized it my computer was on mute. same?
[06:22] <archana> Hi tuxrocks
[06:22] <Izinucs> archana: if you hand code your html then just install apache2.  If you're going to run something like joomla then "sudo tasksel" and choose LAMP
[06:22] <Redcl0ud> that is what I am tring to help linux_is_my_hero with if that is the thing he needs help with
[06:23] <Guest19977> how do i change username
[06:23] <tuxrocks> archana: use LAMPP
[06:23] <Guest19977> in xchat
[06:23] <linux_is_my_hero> elias_: nope :-D
[06:23] <archana> Guest19977, click on the name "guest19977" and enter a new name
[06:24] <elias_> linux_is_my_hero: at least we dont have windows. somehow softwear on my sisters computer uninstalled itself today....took me 2 hours to fix it
[06:24] <tuxrocks> linux_is_my_hero: may be u have muted soud
[06:24] <tuxrocks> sound
[06:24] <archana> tuxrocks, Izinucs I will try. Thanks
[06:24] <elias_> tuxrocks: i just said that
[06:24] <rileypv> thanks
[06:25] <Izinucs> archana: html code or the joomla files go in /var/www
[06:26] <archana> Izinucs, can Opera browser unity can be used to host a small personal website?
[06:26] <Izinucs> archana: no idea.. wouldn't think so..
[06:27] <rileypv> can anyone help me provide access to mysql for mypodcaster
[06:27] <rileypv> is it just a matter of grant all priviliges
[06:27] <stanley_robertso> rileyp, what problem you are facing
[06:27] <tuxrocks> linux_is_my_hero: goto sound prefrences-->Hardwarwe-->set it analog stereo duplex
[06:27] <archana> Izinucs, I am an absolute beginner in this topic. So ...
[06:27] <schone_> Hi all. Would there be a reason everytime I reboot my router my ubuntu box loses ethernet connection and I have to reboot it?
[06:28] <linux_is_my_hero> redcloud: its already installed.
[06:28] <linux_is_my_hero> tuxrocks: my sound is not muted.
[06:28] <rileypv> i have installed mythpodcaster on ubuntu and http://code.google.com/p/mythpodcaster/wiki/Installation
[06:28] <tuxrocks> linux_is_my_hero: goto sound prefrences-->Hardwarwe-->set it analog stereo duplex
[06:28] <Izinucs> archana: most isp's don't want you hosting a site.. so you've got a little to learn on how to get around that.  Changing the standard port and using dyndns.com in your router will usually do it.
[06:28] <archana> Izinucs, Do you know a page with step by step tutorial for this ?
[06:29] <rileypv> Its all working except It fails to acess the mythconverg database
[06:29] <Izinucs> archana: nope.. sorry..
[06:29] <stanley_robertso> you can do .. grant the privelges by using sudo
[06:29] <archana> Izinucs, Ok. Thanks for your replies.
[06:29] <stanley_robertso> I hope you did that
[06:29] <rileypv> so I was wondering if I need to grant acesssto tomcat6
[06:30] <rileypv>  GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'mythtv'@'localhost'
[06:30] <stanley_robertso> schone_, what version of ubuntu you are using
[06:30] <stanley_robertso> yes rileyp
[06:30] <archana> Izinucs, tuxrocks Bye.
[06:31] <tuxrocks> bye
[06:31] <rileypv> that is the standard one liner to grant everone access to the mythconverg db  however http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:MySQL
[06:31] <chet-> this channel is so big
[06:31] <chet-> feels good man
[06:31] <rileypv> would I need to grant access to tomcat6
[06:32] <rileypv> which is the username used by mythpodcaster
[06:32] <stanley_robertso> rileyp, you can try that
[06:32] <rileypv> and If I do how would I do that?
[06:32] <stanley_robertso> rileyp, also.. give grant access to everyone .. and just try once
[06:32] <stanley_robertso> rileyp, you can get the command info from google .. as iam a c/c++ guy :)
[06:33] <rileypv> stanley_robertso,  thnaks anyway
[06:34] <linux_is_my_hero> its cool. ill just reinstall everything. i dont care.
[06:40] <MaRk-I> !hdaintel
[06:40] <tensorpudding> Okay, so the software center won't let me install something because it is "untrusted", how do I make it trusted?
[06:41] <MaRk-I> tensorpudding: click the "more info" see what it says
[06:41] <tensorpudding> It has the same kind of info as any other.
[06:42] <blitzo> how do i run an X application as root?
[06:42] <tensorpudding> Eh, I installed it using aptitude. I don't have time for software center
[06:43] <blitzo> hoow do I run an X application as root?
[06:44] <tensorpudding> ugh, this mismatch of colors on the notification area is really obnoxious
[06:44] <tensorpudding> blitzo: try gksudo
[06:45] <tensorpudding> hit alt+f2, and put gksudo <program name>
[06:45] <uRock> Is it normal for apache2 to be installed and running on a default install?
[06:46] <tensorpudding> Of desktop? I should think not.
[06:46] <abhijit> hello guys
[06:46] <uRock> yeah, it is a desktop install
[06:46] <tensorpudding> You must have installed something which installed apache.
[06:47] <uRock> Hmm, I have found a few things that are running that shouldn't be
[06:48] <uRock> thanks tensorpudding
[06:48] <tensorpudding> For some reason apt starts and enables things like apache right after you install them
[06:48] <tensorpudding> For a service like, say, dbus, this would make sense.
[06:48] <uRock> I am not sure what I installed, but I need to find it and remove it.
[06:49] <tensorpudding> Though there are legitimate dangers of having a web-facing service running, when it could have been installed without your foreknowledge
[06:49] <uRock> that is what I am scared of
[06:50] <tensorpudding> That obnoxious System V init and its scripts makes it more annoying to disable them
[06:50] <Nighthwk> Can anyone tell me the best way to backup your whole ubuntu server?
[06:51] <tensorpudding> Best is subjective, I suppose.
[06:51] <tensorpudding> I'm looking for similar
[06:51] <Nighthwk> I guess
[06:51] <tensorpudding> The best looking thing by my eye seems to be tar
[06:52] <Nighthwk> Looking to make a recovery disk
[06:52] <Izinucs> Nighthwk: partimage and clonezilla are a couple that are popular for imaging your drives
[06:52] <Nighthwk> Thanks Izinucs
[06:52] <Izinucs> Nighthwk: they work kinda like "Ghost"
[06:52] <robertzaccour> how do i cut out the audio recording in recordMyDesktop so that i can record the audio separately in sound recorder and sync the audio and video?
[06:52] <Nighthwk> that what I looking for
[06:52] <schone_> stanley_robertso: lucid
[06:53] <stanley_robertso> schone_, sorry.. i didnot get you
[06:53] <schone_> stanley_robertso: you asked what version of ubuntu imrunnin
[06:54] <stanley_robertso> schone_, oh got it .. i lost much of the chat ... Can you please repeat your question.. if okay with you
[06:54] <schone_> Would there be a reason everytime I reboot my router my ubuntu box loses ethernet connection and I have to reboot it?
[06:55] <schone_> i did a  sudo dhclient eth0 so i guess i can wait and see if it happens
[06:55] <schone_> again?
[06:55] <stanley_robertso> did you check any messages showed up .. or just not working ?
[06:55] <stanley_robertso> schone_, oh ok
[06:55] <Izinucs> schone_: loosing the connection would be normal after you reboot the router.. but you don't have to reboot the computer to get networking backup.. sudo ifdown .. then .. sudo ifup
[06:56] <schone_> Izinucs: how can i run that command if i cant access the box though?
[06:56] <Izinucs> schone_: is it remote?
[06:56] <schone_> Izinucs: sorry i should of said, its running headless
[06:57] <Izinucs> schone_: ah.. on your LAN?
[06:57] <insigne> oi
[06:57] <Izinucs> schone_: from in the lan you should still be able to ssh into it with the ip address..
[06:58] <schone_> Izinucs: thats the problem - i can't - i need to reboot it
[06:58] <schone_> Izinucs: i can't even ping it? would that be my router playing up?
[06:59] <Izinucs> schone_: does the server have a static ip assigned? from within the server?
[06:59] <schone_> it is setup for dhcp
[07:00] <robertzaccour> how do i cut out the audio recording in recordMyDesktop so that i can record the audio separately in sound recorder and sync the audio and video?
[07:00] <terry> How can I increase the volume of a movie?
[07:00] <Izinucs> schone_: for a headless box you're *much* better off setting it up for static.. if the router starts dhcp addresses at xxx.100 then make the server xxx.50 or something..
[07:00] <terry> How can I increase the volume of a movie?Its not enough at full volume.
[07:01] <maco> Izinucs, schone_: alternative so that the route and dns get setup automatically: keep using dhcp, but setup dhcp reservations on your dhcp server
[07:01] <schone_> yer i have done that as well
[07:01] <schone_> i will see what happens when it happens again
[07:01] <schone_> the router is over 3 years old and hs been dropping in and out recntly
[07:02] <terry> How can I increase the volume of a movie?Its not enough at full volume.
[07:02] <robertzaccour> how do i cut out the audio recording in recordMyDesktop so that i can record the audio separately in sound recorder and sync the audio and video?
[07:02] <robertzaccour> terry: did ya try headphones?
[07:02] <terry> yeah
[07:02] <maco> terry: system -> prefrences -> sound will let you overdrive teh sound past 100%....
[07:02] <tensorpudding> I think you can renormalize the audio in the video itself, using some sort of tool
[07:03] <tensorpudding> that provides a more permanent solution
[07:03] <Izinucs> robertzaccour: what ever program you're going to edit in should allow you to delete the audio and add in your own soundtrack.. do it postprocessing.
[07:03] <badass> did you already record it in recordmydesktop
[07:03] <robertzaccour> Izinucs: i haven't found it yet. i've got pitivi and kdenlive
[07:03] <robertzaccour> badass: yes
[07:04] <Izinucs> robertzaccour: that should do it.. kdenlive might be a little flaky still.. check out LiVeS!
[07:04] <JackStoner> what's the best IDE for C++??
[07:04] <Izinucs> screem?
[07:04] <robertzaccour> Izinucs: oh ok thanks
[07:04] <stanley_robertso> JackStoner, eclipse IDE .. or you can simply try vim
[07:05] <JackStoner> stanley_robertso: is geany any good??
[07:05] <Vig> !best
[07:05] <MaRk-I> robertzaccour: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1057416
[07:06] <stanley_robertso> JackStoner, never tried that.. but it depends on the programming language you are trying
[07:06] <JackStoner> Vig: i just needed an opinion, if thats allowed in this room
[07:06] <Guest7180> jeremy
[07:07] <Guest34274> hi if i already have Ubuntu  installed on a computer can i easily install Ubuntu Server on it, or does the Server install have to be a completly different isntallation?
[07:07] <JackStoner> stanley_robertso: what other IDE apart from eclipse for C++, im a bit biased against java-based IDE's
[07:07] <opij> I accidentally deleted the "?" help button on my panel. How do you get it back?
[07:07] <Vig> JackStoner: Certainly, I understand, that was just datum input.
[07:07] <Izinucs> Guest34274: you want a web server or what?
[07:07] <Guest34274> Izinucs, yes i want a web server
[07:08] <Guest34274> Izinucs, i already have Ubuntu installed on a computer
[07:08] <JackStoner> Vig: any advice on a beginner C++ IDE?
[07:08] <Guest34274> just want to put it on that one
[07:08] <stanley_robertso> JackStoner, i personally prefer vim .. than any other editor
[07:08] <Izinucs> Guest34274: open a terminal and type .. sudo tasksel .. choose lamp in the list that appears and install.. you'll lbe done.
[07:08] <Guest34274> Izinucs, is that for a localhost?
[07:09] <Vig> opij: Right Click the panel<select add to panel,,is a start.
[07:09] <sadklkl> hi folks;  i have no titlebars.  ubutu 10.04; nvidia card.  desktop effects enabled
[07:09] <opij> Vig: it aint in there
[07:09] <Izinucs> Guest34274: localhost.. serving to the web .. whatever.. it installs apache, mysql and php
[07:09]  * JackStoner stepped out
[07:09] <Guest34274> Izinucs, k so if i already have localhost installed then i just need to either DMZ or port forward so it can be on the web?
[07:10] <opij> !away | JackStoner
[07:10] <abhijit> my drive journal crashing on login. i am on lucid 64 bit. any help?
[07:10] <Vig> JackStoner: emacs, vim, I really like some of the Paul Lutus stuff, but I am a big fan of Ruby,
[07:10] <Izinucs> Guest34274: you'd think so but your isp might block traffic to port 80.. so you might need to change it to something else and mybe impliment dyndns.com
[07:11] <shiftingcontrol> does any one know how to defend your network using honeypots from botnet attacks?
[07:11] <Vig> opij: Did you look in Main Menu?
[07:11] <Guest34274> Izinucs, i greatly appreciate your help. it seems ur saying that if i already have localhost installed then most of the work is finished for me. now just try to figure out how to get it onto the web?
[07:11] <opij> Vig: sure did.
[07:11] <Izinucs> Guest34274: when you go to local host what does the screen say?
[07:12] <Guest34274> Izinucs, LH works fine i am using it now to work on some coding
[07:12] <Vig> opij: Have you tried CLI yelp?
[07:12] <opij> what are some email providers compatible with evolution besides gmail?
[07:12] <josephseraos> Hi there. Can anyone help me?
[07:12] <josephseraos> please
[07:12] <josephseraos> I'm trying to use JMF, but it show an error
[07:12] <josephseraos> Error: Unable to realize com.sun.media.codec.video.jmpx.Jmpx@4b2922f6
[07:12] <FloodBot1> josephseraos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <opij> Vig: yelp what?
[07:12] <josephseraos> it about Java
[07:13] <Izinucs> Guest34274: then it sounds like you're good to go.
[07:13] <opij> Vig: what the hell is yelp
[07:14] <Vig> opij: I just deleted mine and am now testing the error and solution, are you using Gnome?
[07:14] <josephseraos> Hi there. Can anyone help me?
[07:14] <opij> Vig:  yes
[07:14] <josephseraos> please
[07:14] <josephseraos> I'm trying to use JMF, but it show an error
[07:14] <josephseraos> Error: Unable to realize com.sun.media.codec.video.jmpx.Jmpx@4b2922f6
[07:15] <Guest34274> Izinucs, i greatly appreciate your help
[07:15] <opij> !patience > josephseraos
[07:15] <Izinucs> Guest34274: np :)
[07:16] <Vig> opij: I just opened a Terminal and typed yelp, it launched with errors, log checking now,,,,
[07:17] <opij> ok
[07:17] <Vig> opij: This is yelp:> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp
[07:18] <ghosTM55> hi all , i'm not satisfied with the font rendering in evince , any good idea to make the font in evince looks more smooth ?
[07:19] <Vig> opij: Here is the page for it: https://launchpad.net/yelp or recompile the package, or restore from the backup,,,
[07:20] <opij> vig all i have to do is make a launcher on my panal, as it is still installed. where do you find the "?" icon though?
[07:21] <blitzo> i have a question about skype: on xubuntu there is always a skype icon on the top panel but no such icon in gnome - how do i access it to configure or restart or whatever - do i have to restart it every time?
[07:21] <xangua> blitzo: do you have the notification area in ypur panel¿¿ (gnome)
[07:21] <tensorpudding> fancy ¿'s there
[07:21] <blitzo> xangua what;s that - do i have to install it to the panel?
[07:22] <soreau> What is the ubottu factoid for resetting the panel to default?
[07:22] <xangua> !panels | blitzo
[07:22] <xangua> soreau: read above
[07:22] <blitzo> ubottu won't that disturb my custom theme?
[07:23] <trevor_> how do i open nautilus as root...i try sudo nautilus and it is not working, however prior to this fresh install it worked just fine
[07:23] <abhijit> my drive journal crashing on login. i am on lucid 64 bit. any help?
[07:23] <xangua> gksu | trevor
[07:23] <abhijit> !gksudo
[07:23] <abhijit> :P
[07:23] <blitzo> zangua i added it to my panel but there is still no skype icon
[07:24] <opij> where is the yelp icon, anyone?
[07:24] <trevor_> i tried gksudo also, it returns the error about a required folder /root/.config/nautilus
[07:25] <trevor_> to create it or allow it to create it
[07:25] <blitzo> ubottu ok thx i got it back - i think one of the themes i had tried out screwed it up
[07:26] <Vig> opij: It is usually in Main Menu, or gDesklets or whatever, it is just a GTK thing, Did you try a Recovery Console at boot?
[07:26] <trevor_> i googled the issue and it just returns a solution in the form of a script, i am not really looking to create a script
[07:29] <opij> vig recover from what?
[07:30] <abhijit> !tab | opij
[07:30] <thune3> opij: i found a method for restoring yelp. cp /usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop to desktop, and then drag it into the panel. then remove the file from the desktop
[07:30] <opij> abhijit: lol. thanks i was aware, but his nick is so short and there are so many nicks that complete with vi-tab that its pointless
[07:31] <abhijit> opij, :)
[07:31] <abhijit> opij, v is capital :P
[07:33] <opij> thanks thune3
[07:33] <opij> thanks vig
[07:35] <thune3> opij: actually i just navigated to /usr/share/applications/ in nautilus, where it looks like you can drag a bunch of launchers to the panel! i'll have to remember that one.
[07:35] <tensorpudding> Huh, now everything I try to install is supposedly coming from unauthorized sources
[07:35] <opij> thune3: i just saw that myself
[07:37] <Alazare> can someone with experience with 1080p bigscreen via hdmi assist me?
[07:37] <abhijit> !ask | Alazare
[07:38] <slim1> how to keep empathy connect with the channels after i close the window?
[07:38] <tensorpudding> Okay, why is autoconf not from a trusted source?
[07:39] <Alazare> long story short in windows  on my wd-60735 60" bigscreen i have a refresh line i can see every few seconds more so on action scenes of movies I have the current nvidia drivers installed , i have ht manual and it states at 1920x1080 its supported HZ are 24 30 60 but I still see the line and never have in windows
[07:39] <Alazare> I currently have it set at 60hz
[07:39] <tensorpudding> Did my gpg keys with the ppa get out of sync or something?
[07:40] <phawx> i heard banshee can sync an ipod,  that true?
[07:41] <simplifier> join
[07:41] <xangua> phawx: with gnome 2.30 (incluided in lucid lynx) you should have no problems with rithmbox or banshee
[07:42] <phawx> xangua, is there anything special that has to be done?
[07:42] <Zambz> hey guys, tried both VLC and Totem and on avis my blacks are simply not black, they are dark grey, it's very easy to notice esp on non-widescreen movies.  Works ok with the same vid on my Windows XP machine. any ideas?
[07:42] <Zambz> the video card with Ubuntu is a 1GB ATI card running on a DELL Studio 17
[07:42] <xangua> phawx: no
[07:43] <phawx> will have totry it then
[07:43] <Zambz> really would appreciate any help :) i suspect it is related to the "dynamic range" setting of the video, perhaps not being set to the full 0 - 255
[07:43] <Zambz> thanks in advance
[07:43] <robertzaccour> does anyone know how to remove audio from a video file? recordmydesktop gets my audio and video out of sync and i need to strip the audio so i can sync it correctly with sound recorder
[07:44] <robertzaccour> i meant so i can sync the audio recording with the video with sound recorder
[07:44] <tensorpudding> Anyone know why one might be getting errors regarding unauthorized packages which come from the main repository?
[07:44] <abhijit> robertzaccour, i dont know how but you just give a try to kdenlive
[07:45] <robertzaccour> abhijit: i have kdenlive, haven't figured that part out yet :(
[07:45] <MaRk-I> robertzaccour: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1057416
[07:45] <abhijit> robertzaccour, go through their manual
[07:45] <Bluh> Hello, I have been reading about how to double boot with Win Vista & Ubuntu. My question is that it looks like I can do everything from the CD, is that true?
[07:45] <tensorpudding> How did my sources get to be unauthenticated?
[07:45] <abhijit> Bluh, yes you can do. but you need to care about savig settings
[07:46] <Alazare> in windows  on my wd-60735 60" bigscreen i have a refresh line i can see every few seconds more so on action scenes of movies I have the current nvidia drivers installed , i have ht manual and it states at 1920x1080 its supported HZ are 24 30 60 but I still see the line and never have in windows currently my refresh rate is at 60hz any ideas?
[07:46] <Bluh> I just reformed my laptop so everything should be nice and clean.
[07:46] <Alazare> lucid lynx - windows*
[07:47] <Bogus8> What is the trick to getting my Ubuntu server to show up in windows networking (my network places)
[07:48] <Bogus8> I can get to the share via the IP address but can't resolve the wins name
[07:48] <thune3> tensorpudding: did you somehow remove the "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key" ? [Authentication Tab in Sofware Sources]
[07:49] <blitzo> possible hardware problem: while loading ubuntu the machine hangs and screen goes blank - machine was working just fine under windows - ideas?
[07:50] <thune3> blitzo: likely a video problem, what video chip or computer make/model do you heve?
[07:51] <Bluh> What would you say is the recommend disk space for Ubuntu?
[07:51] <blitzo> thune3 it is hp laptop - the install got to 95% and died - this also happens when doing apt-get update/upgrade
[07:52] <thune3> blitzo: so you never completed installation? do you know the actual model number?
[07:52] <[430]>  /server irc.radiodivadigital.net 6667 wuesos123
[07:52] <[430]>  /server irc.radiodivadigital.net
[07:53] <blitzo> thune3 i do not but i could find out.  install succeeded twice but the update/upgrade failed.  was installing a 3rd time.  now we can't install at all
[07:54] <archana> HI, i used compiz' obs. I used obs.. I set the value to all windows to 0 and all windows and panels has disappeared.. I do not know how to reset it . I logged in as another user account. How do i disable compiz from this user and then login to that and then change obs setting and then starting using that user again
[07:55] <thune3> blitzo: actually i can't see a reason for 'apt-get upgrade' itself to cause a crash unless there is a hard drive related issue (but there could be other reasons)
[07:55] <Alazare> in lucid lynx  on my mitsubishi wd-60735 60" bigscreen i have a refresh line i can see every few seconds more so on action scenes of movies I have the current nvidia drivers installed , i have ht manual and it states at 1920x1080 its supported HZ are 24 30 60 but I still see the line and never have in windows currently my refresh rate is at 60hz any ideas?
[07:56] <blitzo> thune3 specs are here (bottom of page) http://www99.shopping.com/xPO-Hewlett-Packard-HP-Pavilion-dv7-3060us-Entertainment-Notebook-AMD-Turion-X2-Ultra-M600-2-4GHz-17-3-4GB-DDR2-SD
[07:57] <thune3> Alazare: maybe set sync to vblank in nvidia-settings and/or use a different video output driver (a gl one perhaps) in your video player
[07:57] <blitzo> thune3 it crashed several times when running the package manager
[07:57] <Alazare> tried that
[07:57] <blitzo> thune3 i do not think it is a disk problem - was running well under windows
[07:58] <blitzo> thune3 these problems also occured in wubi and when i came here for help i was told to just load linux and be done with it - which we did, and now we can't reload windows
[07:58] <archana> Anyone knows how to disable compiz from recovery mode of my useraccount ?
[08:00] <thune3> blitzo: if it was with synaptic, i'm still wondering about video then. Did you install fglrx drivers? System->Admin->Hardware Drivers ?
[08:00] <robertzaccour> how do i strip audio from video so i can sync it right? better yet, is there an alternative to gtk-recordMyDesktop that doesn't throw audio and video out of sync?
[08:00] <blitzo> thune3 we installed off the live cd and it in stalled whatever it installs i am not ubuntu wizard i have no idea
[08:01] <blitzo> thune3 but now we cannot complete an install, it hangs in mid-load
[08:01] <Bogus8> What is the trick to getting my Ubuntu server to show up in windows networking (my network places)?
[08:02] <Bogus8> I can get to it via IP address but not netBios name
[08:02] <blitzo> thune3 so how could that be a video prob, should it not be using a really basic set of drivers?
[08:02] <Bluh> What would you say is the recommend disk space for Ubuntu?
[08:02] <robertzaccour> how do i strip audio from video so i can sync it right? better yet, is there an alternative to gtk-recordMyDesktop that doesn't throw audio and video out of sync?
[08:02] <fobek22> do anybody knows how to make ur fps a  faster for ur games
[08:03] <davep> does anyone know how socket permissions work? http://paste2.org/p/918665
[08:03] <thune3> blitzo: *if* the problem is video the common recommendation would be to boot installer and system with grub option xforcevesa until you could install the 'proprietary drivers'. System->Admin->HardwareDrivers or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI . But you could have another issue (like wireless driver crashing).
[08:03] <blitzo> robertzaccour use kino to capture from a camera and cinelarra to edit - kino will require a firewire connection and it saves the raw stream directly to disk, the cinelarra loads and edits
[08:03] <xangua> archana: metacity --replace
[08:04] <well_laid_lawn> robertzaccour: if your ffmpeg was built with the x11-grab option it can do that
[08:04] <karthee> HI .. I removed my ati driver .. Now ubuntu is not loggin in .. as soon as it logs in automatically logs out.. it happens when I login to both kubuntu and ubuntu ..  I ve done sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .. still no luck .. any help please ?
[08:04] <blitzo> thune3 it is not using wifi when it loads
[08:04] <Bogus8> fobek22: seriously?  Maybe you should do less gaming and more studying... that "english" is terrible.
[08:04] <robertzaccour> oh ok thanks
[08:04] <robertzaccour> cinelarra isn't in the repos, kinda sketchy about stuff like that...
[08:04] <fobek22> my bad just a little tired playing with ubuntu
[08:05] <blitzo> thune3 when installing we have no access to internet - you present a catch 22
[08:05] <fobek22> u dont know how do bogus my kids love to play games on ubuntu
[08:06] <Bogus8> fobek22: you are making my brain hurt.... and you have kids?!
[08:06] <davep> gasp
[08:06] <davep> 1336 people
[08:06] <inwar> jnm
[08:06] <fobek22> got 6
[08:06] <fobek22> my brain hurts
[08:06] <Bogus8> holy crap... I'm gonna go to sleep and pretend this conversation never happened.
[08:07] <fobek22> me too
[08:07] <thune3> blitzo: you could use xforcevesa option in grub when booting livecd (for 10.04 when the little man shows, hit esc, enter lang, F6, esc, add xforcevesa after quiet splash). For installed system hold down shift and then hit e and add options.
[08:08] <blitzo> thune3 i don't recall seeing a little man
[08:08] <thune3> blitzo: the first color screen with two icons bottom-center
[08:09] <blitzo> thune3 ok i am telling someone to do this remotely and it has turned into such a nightmare i think we are gonna give up on ubuntu and tey something else
[08:09] <[d-_-b]> UBUNTU = win
[08:09] <[d-_-b]> lol
[08:09] <[d-_-b]> do not give up
[08:09] <[d-_-b]> whats going on?
[08:10] <[d-_-b]> Ubuntu is fool proof for linux
[08:10] <[d-_-b]> hell for noobs
[08:10] <[d-_-b]> Ubuntu is what people need
[08:10] <[d-_-b]> its free and easy to use
[08:10] <cthulhu336_> anybody have any idea of using Windows Media Audio 9 in ubuntu?
[08:10] <[d-_-b]> eww
[08:11] <cthulhu336_> I love ubuntu, two laptops with it installed
[08:11] <[d-_-b]> windows on Ubuntu pass
[08:11] <cthulhu336_> its a website that uses that encoder
[08:11] <digdug> I think he means the audio format, not the player
[08:11] <[d-_-b]> get vlc or vcl player
[08:11] <[d-_-b]> thats all u need
[08:11] <[d-_-b]> or search for ubuntutweak
[08:11] <blitzo> thune3 each go round takes 45 minutes and we've done this about 5 times now - i really need some more concrete suggetions if that is possible
[08:11] <[d-_-b]> install and love it
[08:11] <cthulhu336_> ubuntutweak, thanx
[08:11] <jeffmr> having some trouble connecting to the wireless network in an ubuntu like distribution.  can someone help?
[08:12] <[d-_-b]> driver support?
[08:12] <jeffmr> yes
[08:12] <[d-_-b]> k...
[08:12] <jeffmr> supported
[08:12] <thune3> blitzo: adding xforcevesa to grub line is a very concrete suggestion. Using that as a workaround until you install ati drivers is also very concrete.
[08:12] <jeremy> 热血无幻
[08:12] <jeffmr> I've read through the ubuntu tutorials
[08:12] <jeffmr> and troubleshooting guide
[08:13] <Guest65976> how to use it
[08:13] <bullgard4> [GNOME 2.30.2] I have got by default 2 different Greeter background pictures on 2 different computers. Why? http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.: "GDM enables in gnome-settings-daemon the plugin »background«." What file stores the associated background file name?
[08:13] <thune3> blitzo: this isn't that hard really. graphics issues can be a *real* *pain*. Part of the livecd idea is that it allows you to see if it is going to work, if it doesn't you know there will be some pain to get it working.
[08:13] <jeffmr> I don't have network-admin but have tried through the command line and wicd network manager
[08:13] <jeffmr> I can see the networks
[08:14] <jeffmr> but when it trys to authenticate it doesn't complete and the wired connection comes back up
[08:14] <jeffmr> its also through vbox
[08:14] <blitzo> thune3 someone here gave me some very bad advice and now i am trying to dig out - i need clarification of your earlier instructions on starting up.
[08:14] <xangua> (02:12:05) jeffmr: having some trouble connecting to the wireless network in an UBUNTU LIKE distribution.  can someone help? - please go to your distro support channel/forum
[08:15] <jeffmr> xangua, they're not too helpful
[08:15] <thune3> blitzo: are you starting livecd or installed system?
[08:15] <jeffmr> they don't like simple questions
[08:15] <blitzo> thune3 the system will NOT install
[08:15] <jeffmr> or what they perceive to be simple
[08:15] <blitzo> thune3 we are in the process of TRYING to install and it keeps crashing partway through
[08:16] <jeffmr> but I'll try
[08:16] <blitzo> thune3 earlier you said to "add xforcevesa after quiet splash" what is quiet splash?
[08:16] <blitzo> thune3 are these grub options?
[08:17] <thune3> blitzo: it is just some words you will see at the end of the grub line.
[08:17] <blitzo> thune3 however we were able to successfully earlier but cannot re-install now
[08:17] <blitzo> thune3 that's what i thought but i wanted to be sure
[08:18] <junkgui_> doesnt show starup log, shows a splashscreen
[08:18] <thune3> blitzo: esc, enterlang, f6, escape (it is possible that xforcevesa will be an option in the f6 menu, if so you can just select that)
[08:18] <jeffmr> yep
[08:18] <blitzo> thune3 thx for clarifying
[08:18] <jeffmr> I tried to post and after so much they prevent me from posting
[08:19] <blitzo> thune3 i am telling someone how to do this via skype
[08:19] <jeffmr> backtrack linux
[08:22] <thune3> blitzo: Does the install just fail? does the computer hang? screen go black?
[08:23] <MaRk-I> thune3: that depends on his videocard... nvidia:  "nomodeset,  ati(probably): xforcevesa, intel:  915.modeset=0 or 915.modeset=1
[08:23] <thune3> MaRk-I: ati
[08:23] <MaRk-I> thune3: ok you're right my bad
[08:24] <thune3> MaRk-I: thanks for chiming in. i'm feeling less confident i'm on the right track and may need another track/opinion
[08:24] <MaRk-I> thune3: if it's a blank screen after grub it's most likely that problem
[08:25] <MaRk-I> thune3: and btw those are the correct steps
[08:32] <Travelera> what are the video formats that ubuntu can show by default? (in other words, what videos can it show out of the box, without having to download restricted codecs)
[08:32] <dad3> hi
[08:33] <jeffmr> hi dad
[08:33] <Travelera> ih
[08:34] <phawx> i dont seem to be getting any sound of of amarok...is this an issue with theprogram or my computer?
[08:34] <dad3> hey
[08:35] <dad3> um im lookin for a regularish irc client
[08:35] <abhijit> Travelera, ogg
[08:35] <abhijit> !ogg
[08:35] <abhijit> Travelera, ^^
[08:35] <dad3> is this anything like mirc?
[08:35] <jeffmr> same thing
[08:36] <dad3> how do i coennect to efnet and all that
[08:36] <dad3> on linux
[08:36] <abhijit> dad3, xchat
[08:36] <jeffmr> using xchat?
[08:36] <dad3> yes
[08:36] <abhijit> !xchat | dad3
[08:36] <jeffmr> xchat - network list
[08:36] <jeffmr> choose your network and configure to add channels
[08:37] <jeffmr> xchat being a menu
[08:37] <dad3> oh ty
[08:37] <jeffmr> np
[08:37] <dad3> like i like the tmd movies channel
[08:37] <dad3> how do i get there
[08:38] <dad3> im regular with windows i havent been on ubuntu linux long
[08:38] <jeffmr> its on efnet?
[08:38] <dad3> star somethin
[08:39] <jeffmr> have to know the server its on first
[08:39] <abhijit> dad3, type /joi #channelname
[08:39] <abhijit> dad3, type /join #channelname
[08:39] <dad3> id have to google it
[08:40] <brian__> hey
[08:40] <jeffmr> !g tmd movies channel irc
[08:40] <abhijit> dad3, you can get channel list type /list
[08:40] <brian__> exit
[08:40] <jeffmr> I don't think he knows the server
[08:40] <dad3> !g tmd movies channel irc
[08:40] <dad3> where would i type that
[08:40] <abhijit> dad3, here in your irc text box where you type msgs
[08:41] <abhijit> dad3, for more information please join #freenode
[08:41] <dad3> im not an expert with linux or irc but i know how to download the movies and stuff with windows
[08:42] <jb12> hey all
[08:42] <abhijit> !manual | dad3
[08:42] <dad3> with mirc
[08:42] <jb12> anyone how to change the login theme at start up
[08:42] <ubu123> Hi people.. Im trying to share a folder over smb with nautilus. The computer I'm sharing from has 2 users. How can i make it possible so that both me and the other user can access this share from another machine? Or is it even possible? Or should I just forget about this and configure my shares in smb.conf?
[08:42] <LoverBoyV> I am having a graphics problem. Can anyone help?
[08:43] <jb12> I want to change login theme on ubuntu 10 .04
[08:43] <jb12> anyone know how to do it
[08:44] <spiky> ubu123: is it over a local lan or internet
[08:44] <ubu123> spiky: just lan.. I can access the share fine, but the other user cant
[08:45] <dad3> i only using ubuntu on a needly basis so far i can use it to browse the web and crack wireless keys
[08:45] <ubu123> spiky: And I dont want to allow guests
[08:46] <LoverBoyV> Can anyone help me with my graphics issues?
[08:46] <jeffmr> LoverBoyV, I'll try but probably not
[08:46] <jeffmr> what's up?
[08:46] <ubu123> spiky: I presumed "Allow others to create and delete files in this folder" ment all user on the system, and not just me
[08:46] <MaRk-I> !ask
[08:46] <dad3> if i could get it to run windows programs like battlefiel 1942 winmx camfrog and mirc  i would never use windows
[08:47] <LoverBoyV> jeffmr: For some reason my graphics doesnt work on boot. It gives me options to run in low graphics mode or some other stuff.
[08:48] <jeffmr> does it work in low graphics mode or just command prompt?
[08:48] <spiky> ubu123: just give the username rights to folder
[08:48] <dad3> i dont really care about the graphice unless im running video games
[08:48] <jeffmr> to LBV
[08:48] <LoverBoyV> jeffmr: i go into low graphics mode to be able to use it. I usually use accelerated graphics and what not.
[08:49] <ubu123> spiky: I already did "sudo cmhod -R 777 to the relevant folder..
[08:49] <ubu123> spiky: Are you sure that should work?
[08:49] <jeffmr> LBV, by low graphics mode do you mean like vesa and without nvidia or ati drivers?
[08:50] <spiky> ubu123: that is you should have to do
[08:50] <jeffmr> I'm not in it, but I remember there being a menu with software update that checked for hardware drivers for your computer in a menu up top
[08:51] <LoverBoyV> jeffmr: I'm pretty sure its vesa, I have intel integrated graphics or whatever. At boot sometimes it will say that i need to remove one of the drivers of something.
[08:51] <icarus> hello, im running ubuntu 10.04
[08:51] <icarus> im having some issues with samb
[08:51] <icarus> samba*
[08:51] <icarus> this is my smb.conf
[08:51] <icarus> http://pastebin.com/e0ZxCxdt
[08:51] <FloodBot1> icarus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:51] <jeffmr> LBV, do you know the menu I'm talking about?
[08:51] <icarus> i can not get it to register
[08:51] <icarus> the workgroup shows up no where
[08:52] <icarus> testparm shows no errors
[08:52] <icarus> /etc/init.d/smbd restarts fine
[08:52] <icarus> i am not sure what the issue is
[08:52] <sam_sam> i tried to create startup usb disk for bt4 iso , it says 'this is not a desktop install CD disk so can not write, wht is wrong ?
[08:52] <LoverBoyV> jeffmr: yes i do, but mine isnt a restricted driver. It usually works by default. I even reinstalled to try to get it working and it does nothing.
[08:53] <jeffmr> sam_sam, you need to use netbootin
[08:53] <sam_sam> i tried to create startup usb disk for bt4 iso , it says 'this is not a desktop install CD disk so can not write', wht is wrong ? image is downloaded from backtrack official site
[08:53] <LoverBoyV> sam
[08:53] <jeffmr> LBV, what else has it worked with?
[08:54] <LoverBoyV> jeffmr: what do you mean?
[08:55] <sam_sam> LoverBoyV: yes?
[08:55] <ubuntunewbie> hi
[08:56] <jeffmr> LBV, I mean what other distributions and versions?
[08:56] <ubuntunewbie> anyone can guide me how to use gnu ddrecuse please ? thank you
[08:56] <LoverBoyV> jeffmr: Ubuntu 10.04
[08:58] <LoverBoyV> jeffmr: it just stopped working. I dont know why. That is why i am here.
[08:58] <spiky> ubu123: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/share-ubuntu-home-directories-using-samba/
[08:59] <jeffmr> LBV, linux can be a little bit flaky.  Was it working at one time with 10.04?
[08:59] <ManDay> may it be that man evdev is completely incomplete? how many other manpages are absolutely out-date on ubuntu? o_O
[08:59] <LoverBoyV> jeffmr: Yes, I just said that. I really dont know what happened to it. It just stopped working in 10.04.
[09:00] <jeffmr> LBV, just clarifying.  I don't know unless you check your card specs and verify they're supported on ubuntu's site.  Also maybe check the forums for some info about people with the same problem.
[09:01] <dad3> oh ok i got in the channel i wanted
[09:02] <dad3> um anyone know any good music/movie channels?
[09:02] <ubu123> spiky: Thanks for the link.. But have already nailed samba except how to do this one thing from nautilus.. Besides Im not sharing from my home directory..
[09:02] <reber> hi all. Got a video problem after ubuntu upgrade. I get a lot of artifacts and 3d doesn't work properly. Any ideas ?
[09:03] <ubuntunewbie> anyone can guide me how to use gnu ddrecuse please ? thank you
[09:04] <dad3> i wouldnt know if even my graphics ar workin properly
[09:05] <habibnahas> i am trying to get ati 4850 to work in lucid, when i run compiz-check i get 'Error: No rendering method in use (AIGLX, Xgl or Nvidia)' which one should i use
[09:06] <saji89> ubuntunewbie, It 'ddrescue'.
[09:06] <phawx> gah, i had to kill firefox
[09:06] <phawx> and there's still sound playing!
[09:06] <phawx> how do i stopit
[09:07] <ubuntunewbie> saji89: oh , so anyone can guide me on it or any website can tell me how to use ? I had a corrupted thumb drive
[09:07] <saji89> ubuntunewbie, Let me try. I haven't heard of the software. I'll try to point you to some webite of use.
[09:09] <ubuntunewbie> saji89: ok thanks :)
[09:09] <saji89> ubuntunewbie, did you try the manpage?
[09:09] <ubuntunewbie> saji89: dont understand
[09:09] <ubuntunewbie> saji89: after reading i still dont know what those command line menas
[09:10] <Circs> I have googled and been unable to sort throught the results properly, but I need a way to read jpeg EXIF data. Is there a simple single use program or something I could use?
[09:11] <abhijit> hello
[09:11] <jeffmr> hi
[09:11] <saji89> ubuntunewbie, Did u try the manpage?
[09:11] <ubu123> spiky: I think it has something to do with the “usershare owner only = False”  Ill investigate that
[09:12] <ubuntunewbie> saji89: after i install i can't even find the application
[09:12] <saji89> ubuntunewbie, How u installed the application?
[09:12] <ubuntunewbie> saji89: at synaptic
[09:13] <yunintegral> http://5angh0.shworks.com/images/desktop/1.png in this screenshot, how can i change panel button's background image into black color?
[09:13] <saji89> ubuntunewbie, One minute pls.
[09:13] <ubuntunewbie> saji89: anyhow be right back , any website ?
[09:13] <saji89> ubuntunewbie, http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html
[09:14] <saji89> ubuntunewbie, Try reading the section 6 in it, that has examples.
[09:14] <ManDay> Drivers totally ignore whatever Option I specify in xorg.conf - how can that be? Another ubuntu feature???
[09:14] <evelyette> hi
[09:14] <yujixi123> hello
[09:15] <saji89> ubuntunewbie, Did u install ddrescue or gddrescue?
[09:15] <evelyette> I just installed ubuntu 8.04 and I would like to update to the latest version (with kernel and everything), to the 8.10 (or whatever the latest version is). How can I do that?
[09:15] <dad3> ok
[09:16] <icarus> im defecting
[09:16] <icarus> ubuntu 10.04 is poorly packaged
[09:16] <saji89> ubuntunewbie, I think this link can help you more better- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[09:16] <StaRetji> folks, I have a problem with network-manager. I've manually set network settings in /etc/network/interfaces and did /etc/init.d/networking restart and everything works fine. But once I reboot Lucid /etc/network/interfaces get's overwritten. SOS! :)
[09:17] <yunintegral> http://5angh0.shworks.com/images/desktop/1.png in this screenshot, how can i change panel button's background image into just black color?
[09:17] <skp-hacker> Hello nUbuntu guru
[09:17] <MaRk-I> StaRetji: network manager overwrites it you need to change your settings through network manager
[09:18] <troopperi> evelyette:sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but if its possible download latest  installation cd/dvd and run on it.
[09:18] <skp-hacker> Russian Federations
[09:18] <pophorea> hello
[09:18] <troopperi> evelyette:sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- terminal
[09:19] <evelyette> troopperi, well I just installed it, but I would rather run dist-upgrade
[09:19] <skp-hacker> #sudo apt-get start-network
[09:19] <StaRetji> MaRk-I: well, I wouldn't do it manually, but network manager behaves strange. I've setup ad-hod connection and manual IP, however he sets old IP. Where manager stores this IP, or settings?
[09:19] <saji89> ubuntunewbie, The command for ddrescue in ubuntu is- dd_rescue . I think that's why you couldn't find it.
[09:19] <pophorea> I have a problem
[09:19] <abhijit> !help | pophorea
[09:20] <skp-hacker> ifconfig /etc/
[09:20] <StaRetji> MaRk-I: another thing, It overwrites it and leaves not other data then auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[09:20] <troopperi> evelyette:hope you have fast internet connection, its might take time
[09:21] <MaRk-I> StaRetji: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager0.7
[09:21] <pophorea> I've just maked my partition ext4 from ntfs and I dont have the permisions to create on disk. If I open gksu nautilus I can but how I do it to work anuway. And ktorrent lose torreents
[09:21] <skp-hacker> yes ping 192.168.67.1
[09:21] <StaRetji> MaRk-I: thx man
[09:22] <parrot> l
[09:22] <ManDay> How do I execute a script immediately after X has started?
[09:22] <evelyette> troopperi, what's the name of the ubuntu distro, that doesn't install X server by default ?
[09:23] <skp-hacker> startx
[09:23] <troopperi> evelyette:do you mean latest version?
[09:23] <evelyette> no
[09:23] <evelyette> a fresh installation
[09:24] <evelyette> troopperi, there's fluxbuntu, xubuntu ...
[09:25] <abhijit> ManDay, add it to startup aps list?
[09:25] <troopperi> evelyette: its just ubuntu, there is many variations with lightweight desktops etc. xubuntu is with xfce and kubuntu is with kde
[09:25] <ManDay> abhijit, are you sure that this would execute it immediately after X started
[09:25] <ManDay> ?
[09:25] <skp-hacker> do not wireless setinng "#iwconfig " eh0 no wireless
[09:26] <abhijit> ManDay, immediatly after you logged i
[09:26] <evelyette> troopperi, would you recommend ubuntu for a server...so far I was running gentoo, but grew tired of it
[09:26] <troopperi> !alternate
[09:26] <ManDay> abhijit, thats not what i said
[09:26] <evelyette> and I would like to install freebsd, ubuntu, debian, or some other, but don't know which one to pick
[09:26] <abhijit> ManDay, then dunno
[09:27] <troopperi> evelyette: when you etc. install ubuntu, you can install virtualbox and test there what is your favorite distro.
[09:28] <evelyette> well I don't know if I can trust ubuntu for possible break-in attempt
[09:28] <ubuntunewbie> saji89: I install both gddrescue and dd_rescue
[09:29] <dad3> what is the default downloads folder of xchat gnome irc client
[09:29] <MaRk-I> dad3: /.xchat/downloads
[09:30] <MaRk-I> ~/.xchat2/downloads**
[09:30] <dad3> ty
[09:30] <MaRk-I> yw
[09:31] <mossi> Does anyone here know where i should when i want to sync my tomboy notes with my nokia 5230
[09:31] <troopperi> evelyette: do you have your own server running?
[09:33] <evelyette> troopperi, yes
[09:35] <troopperi> evelyette: have you readed this? http://www.ubuntu.com/server/features
[09:37] <mossi> Does anyone here know where i should when i want to sync my tomboy notes with my nokia 5230
[09:39] <ejv> is it possible to bounce outbound requests for TeamViewer sessions, over ssh, through an alternate host?
[09:39] <ejv> if so, how?
[09:39] <Alazare> anyone know of an app that will sling my basket notes to my blackberry storm 9530?
[09:41] <lzweekly> who are in the room?
[09:42] <metalgeek> hi
[09:42] <lzweekly> hi
[09:42] <ManDay> how do i restart X?
[09:42] <lzweekly> i don't know
[09:42] <lzweekly> sorry
[09:42] <Alazare> sudo service gdm or kdm or ldm etc restart
[09:42] <Alazare> on gnome its gdm on kde its kdm on lxde its ldm on xfce its xdm i belive
[09:43] <troopperi> Alazare: http://thelinuxexperiment.com/tag/barrybackup/ maybe this is helpfull?
[09:46] <metalgeek> Can i give myself root privileges in the gnome gui
[09:46] <LoverBoyV> Can someone help me with my graphics issues?
[09:46] <metalgeek> without the terminal
[09:47] <yunintegral> anyone help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1533526
[09:49] <mds1> hi all.  Can please someone point me to the right direction:  I am using a UMTS-dialup on Ubuntu 9.04.  It works, but only if I turn off eth0.  I'd like to assign a static ip to eth0 and still have the internet connection run through ppp0 (dial-up).
[09:51] <ddrj> hi everyone, i'm running lubuntu here which uses the pcmanfm2 file manager, when i go to Go > Network Drives , i can see the shared folders on my network, but i can't view it
[09:51] <ddrj> when i try to double click or open the shared folder, it asks me to open with what application
[09:51] <ddrj> any suggestions?
[09:53] <Zolomon> Anyone got a link to a good bash scripting site? I need references on basic structure and how to run programs/commands like unzip, copy and things like that. I would appreciate it a lot! <3
[09:53] <yunintegral> http://dpaste.org/07qE/ in this .gtkrc.2.0 config file, how can i assign image file into bg[PRELIGHT] = "#ffffff"? not just color code
[09:55] <blitzo> can anyone helpt with a cairo dock ques?  I posted it on #cairo-dock several hours ago and no one replied
[09:57] <Q_Continuum> I want to set a custom resolution (1366 x 768) - currently at 1680x1050 - want to see how the smaller resolution works for my purposes (new machine possibly) - 10.04, using Free drivers.
[09:58] <blitzo> can anyone help with a cairo-dock ques?
[10:01] <sheos> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:01] <well_laid_lawn> Zolomon: look at the topic in the #bash channel for those
[10:01] <Zolomon> well_laid_lawn: ah, thanks!
[10:02] <well_laid_lawn> np :]
[10:02] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me why man evdev is so completel different from man evdev here: http://man-wiki.net/index.php/4:evdev ?
[10:03] <well_laid_lawn> Q_Continuum: you can only use the resolutions listed by   xrandr   in terminal afaik
[10:03] <Q_Continuum> yeah, I've found instructions for adding a modeline but it doesn't state at all how to figure out all the numbers :-/
[10:04] <arsh> Where do I find the applications which I install from Ubuntu center?
[10:04] <Bluh> I'm new to linux but I was reading somewhere that it's harder to get a virus as long as you don't run it root user, does that mean the first user I make?
[10:04] <arsh> I'm new to ubuntu
[10:04] <Q_Continuum> arsh, click on 'Applications' then 'Ubuntu Software Center' at the bottom.  You can browse categories, or search using the box at the top right.
[10:05] <well_laid_lawn> arsh: in /usr/bin mostly
[10:05] <Q_Continuum> arsh, after installation most will appear in the various categories in the 'Applications' menu.
[10:06] <arsh> Makes sense.. tried serachin in applications.. but
[10:06] <arsh> Unable to find Compiz
[10:06] <arsh> Jus installed it
[10:07] <arsh> :-s
[10:07] <tensorpudding> hmm, btrfs has snapshots, now i'm tempted to upgrade
[10:08] <arsh> in installed software under ubuntu software center.. it jus gives me the option to remove... how do I run this program?
[10:08] <Kars> hello. im using ubuntu now, but ive an older pc. what linux packet should i install on it to remain performance?
[10:08] <tensorpudding> arsh: the way you run programs normally
[10:09] <abhijit> need help configuring nokia phone to wammu. anyone help please?
[10:09] <well_laid_lawn> arsh: install the compiz config settings manager
[10:09] <well_laid_lawn> !ccsm
[10:09] <tensorpudding> Kars: it's subjective
[10:09] <arsh> @well laid lawn... I did that...
[10:09] <Kars> Is ubuntu not the fastest OS for linux?
[10:10] <Alazare> lol @ Kars
[10:10] <tensorpudding> It's not the fastest OS out there on weak hardware, no.
[10:10]  * saji89_ is away: Off to have lunch.
[10:10] <Kars> okay
[10:10] <tensorpudding> You can get better performance by running an older version though
[10:10] <Bluh> There's now an option to migrate my "Windows Vista (loader)", what is that?
[10:10] <Kars> ye im a newbie on linux :D
[10:10] <Jordan_U> tensorpudding: You can upgrade in place from ext3/4 to btrfs, though keep in mind that it may eat your data and/or kill your cat.
[10:10] <Kars> ok
[10:10] <Alazare> you want either puppy or there is another like light ubuntu and one other
[10:10] <tensorpudding> Or you can choose from one of the distros which are suggested for older computers.
[10:10] <opij> can anyone PLEASE Tell me what email providers are compatible with evolution?!?!
[10:10] <Kars> ok
[10:11] <tensorpudding> If you really like Ubuntu, Debian is similar but is usually leaner.
[10:11] <arsh> Where do I find installed applications in Ubuntu? Can't find compiz, which I just installed..
[10:11] <Kars> debian is faster?
[10:11] <Alazare> damn small linux
[10:11] <Bluh> And does the root user mean the first user I make?
[10:11] <tensorpudding> It has fewer fancy things by default.
[10:11] <Alazare> damn small linux is the lightest linux distro weighing in at 50mb and is based on debian
[10:11] <Zolomon> How do I run a bash script I've written? ./myscript.sh doesn't work.
[10:11] <Jordan_U> opij: I would expect pretty much all of them to be. If it supports pop/imap/smtp it should work. What problem are you having?
[10:12] <tensorpudding> I daresay that if it's at 50mb it won't bear much resemblance to Debian in the end :P
[10:12] <Kars> hm so an old version of debian would do..
[10:12] <Jordan_U> Zolomon: chmod +x myscript.sh
[10:13] <Jordan_U> Kars: How old is "older"? You may want to try lubuntu.
[10:13] <Zolomon> Jordan_U: thanks!
[10:13] <Jordan_U> Zolomon: You're welcome.
[10:13] <tensorpudding> I'm not 100% behind upgrading ext4 to btrfs.
[10:13] <Alazare> kars if you want up to date but lightweight go with either crunchbang linux, damn small linux, or puppy linux there all made for p2-p3 600mhz or so pcs
[10:14] <Kars> uhm well right now im using a fast pc and the newest of ubuntu version. that runs fine. but ive got an older pc with little ram/cpu where i want to install linux on
[10:14] <Kars> chrunchbang linux hehe or puppy
[10:14] <tensorpudding> How old?
[10:14] <Alazare> puppylinux or damnsmall linux or crunchbang are all good options
[10:15] <Alazare> damnsmall linux is ultra fast followed by puppy followed by crunchbang
[10:15] <Kars> and chrunch or puppy etc all remain functionallity?
[10:15] <boodroscotch> Hey guys; having some connection troubles. Anybody willing to help me?
[10:15] <tensorpudding> They're not going to provide the same functionality.
[10:15] <Alazare> yep kars
[10:15] <tensorpudding> They'll have different applications
[10:15] <Alazare> good enough to surf etc
[10:15] <tensorpudding> They'll look different
[10:15] <Alazare> surf, chat, take notes, etc, crunch is based on ubuntu, puppy is by itself
[10:15] <Alazare> as in built from the ground up
[10:16] <Kars> i will check them ^^
[10:16] <Bluh> There's now an option to migrate my "Windows Vista (loader)", what is that?
[10:16] <Alazare> and damn small is based on debian some
[10:16] <boodroscotch> so basically, I'm currently residing in China right now and their broadband is some sort of Wireless PPPoE connection
[10:17] <Alazare> kars check out http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Minimal_Linux_distros
[10:17] <boodroscotch> on windows, you have to connect to the wireless network (which gives you an invalid IP) and the create a PPPoE connection with seperate userid and details and connect
[10:17] <Kars> thx for link
[10:17] <Direc> hi all. I'm trying to recompile totem with a one-line patch applied, but I'm stuck with gstreamer dependency: it requires 0.10.28.1 but the repos only contain 0.10.28-1 Any tips?
[10:17] <Direc> oh and I'm using ubuntu 10.04 64-bit, tryin to replicate "stock build"...
[10:18] <boodroscotch> so my problem on ubuntu is, how do I jury rig/trick networkmanager to use wifi as the default connection device for a DSL connection?
[10:18] <boodroscotch> I've already tried entering my wireless card's MAC address with no luck
[10:18] <Joelixny> Hi. I am trying to compile a program and I get an error with a dependency even though I have that dependency. Can anyone please help me? Thanks in advance.
[10:20] <boodroscotch> Joelixny: do you have the -dev part of that dependancy installed (for example: libglib is the main package and libglib-dev contains the things used to compile a program)
[10:20] <alaric> hola
[10:20] <Bluh> Does the root user mean the first user I make?
[10:20] <Kars> thx for the help. ill try one of those lightweight versions like puppylinux. YAY!
[10:21] <Jordan_U> Bluh: No.
[10:21] <Direc> as per my problem, I have apt-get build-dep totem done...
[10:22] <ManDay> How do I run a script immediately after X started?
[10:22] <Jordan_U> Kars: There are trade offs (usually in usability) with lighter weight distros, what you mean by "old" matters a lot in your choice.
[10:23] <boodroscotch_> how do I jury rig/trick networkmanager to use wifi as the default connection device/route for a DSL connection?
[10:26] <Direc> nevermind, I think I found my answer. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/totem/ubuntu/revision/71
[10:27] <Bluh> IThere's now an option to migrate my "Windows Vista (loader)", what is that?
[10:28] <tranchinh> tranchinh
[10:28] <Bluh> I'm looking and I can't seem to find what "Windows Vista (loader)" as something I can migrate?
[10:28] <tranchinh> hello
[10:28] <Bluh> Sorry wrong key XD
[10:28] <magnetron> boodroscotch, you have both a LAN cable and a wireless, but only want to use the wireless?
[10:30] <Jordan_U> Bluh: What is the exact text of the message and in what context are you seeing it?
[10:30] <boodroscotch> magnetron: well, it's kinda complicated. you see, I'm currently in china and their highspeed internet comes with a 2-in-1 wireless/router machine. However, it requires you to first connect to the wireless network and then dial a PPPoE connection over the wifi.
[10:30] <suprengr> Partition query: Ubuntu (10.04) Disk Utility shows sda11 as 71GB and unallocated space as 70GB.  Gparted (from repo) v0.5.1 shows sda11 as 65.93GB and unallated as 65.55.  Any thoughts?
[10:31] <boodroscotch> the wifi alone has an invalid IP address
[10:32] <boodroscotch> magnetron: in other words, on windows you connect to the wifi and then create a PPPoE connection and dial. somehow, it automatically uses the wifi connection as the dial route.
[10:32] <Vig> suprengr: Full disk install?
[10:32] <magnetron> boodroscotch, make sure the wifi connection has the "connect automatically" check box enabled.
[10:32] <boodroscotch> ubuntu does not do this as far as i know
[10:33] <ace_> hi, can someone remind me the syntax for appl-get or whatever the command is to download software from command line
[10:33] <suprengr> Vig: as in...?
[10:33] <spiky> ace_ apt-get install
[10:33] <MaRk-I> boodroscotch: have you tried: pppoeconf?
[10:33] <ace_> ahh thanks spiky
[10:34] <Bluh> Jordan_U: Never mind, I just figure out it's the OS I can migrate from. I just notice it's a main item with sub items XD
[10:34] <Vig> suprengr: Are you installing Ubuntu as the sole/only system or is it a dual boot?
[10:34] <boodroscotch> magnetron: it is.
[10:34] <magnetron> boodroscotch, MaRk-I please wait, we are using network-manager
[10:34] <Bluh> Jordan_U: It is a werid name for it.
[10:35] <magnetron> boodroscotch, you could make the DSL modem the "default route" for the wifi connection.
[10:36] <boodroscotch> magnetron: how do i do that?
[10:36] <magnetron> boodroscotch, set the wifi to "Manual" for IPv4 and add your IP, your netmask and then the Modem IP as "gateway"
[10:36] <archana> HI, Is there alternative to compiz config manager for visual effects ?
[10:36] <magnetron> boodroscotch, also set the correct DNS
[10:36] <Alazare> i like to use 8.8.8.8 for dns
[10:36] <Alazare> 8.8.8.8********
[10:37] <archana> Alazare, google's?
[10:37] <Alazare> wich is google dns
[10:37] <Alazare> very easy to remember :P
[10:37] <archana> Alazare, Yes, :)
[10:37] <magnetron> boodroscotch, you can get all these numbers from network manager by right clicking NM and checking Connection Info
[10:37] <suprengr> Vig: multi boot.  sda has WinXP & on extended partion there are sda5 thru sda11 for various data stores (sda10 has Mint (for Wine only) and sda11 has Lucid.
[10:37] <Vig> archana: There are many, Desklets, Cairo, and others, these are called eye candy.
[10:37] <magnetron> Alazare, doesn't work in China
[10:37] <Alazare> for some reason ubuntu/mint doesnt like resolve dns fast so if i set one that isnt given from the router it works faster
[10:37] <Alazare> open dns does :P
[10:37] <archana> Vig, I don't want cairo dock.
[10:38] <magnetron> Alazare, i set a better DNS in my router
[10:38] <pophorea> I've just maked my partition ext4 from ntfs and I dont have the permisions to create on disk. If I open gksu nautilus I can but how I do it to work anyway. And ktorrent lose torreents
[10:38] <blitzo> help!  cairo dock has screwed up my top panel to where some icons have disappearedd while others are floating at random places on my desktop.  can someone tell me how to kill the panel and restart it?
[10:38] <Alazare> something about 10.04 ubuntu, doesnt give a dns properly when assigned automatically from the router
[10:38] <archana> !resetpanel
[10:39] <archana> blitzo, read ^
[10:39] <slow-motion> hi
[10:39] <blitzo> archana - pretty common problem eh?
[10:39] <Vig> suprengr: Ok, that makes sense then, there are a few slices/parts, one is DOS, and the other bootstrap loaders. They will give a false read or accurate but looks false read of Disk Space, add bad blocks into the equation and is almost figured out.
[10:39] <ace_> can someone suggest to me how to find software libraries I need when apt-get install says they are not found?
[10:40] <Alazare> popohrea you need to gksu nautilus and then change the default mount of the drive in fstab to something like data, then edit the folders permissions to user, and your user name and your done
[10:40] <violinappren> ace_: pastebin your error messages
[10:40] <blitzo> archana that did not fix the problem
[10:40] <Vig> archana: I was just mentioning that as a help term for you  to search the forums with, or Official Documents.
[10:41] <ace_> violin, in here?
[10:41] <violinappren> !pastebin | ace_
[10:41] <archana> blitzo, someone will have to help you .  I called ubottu because you wanted to restart the panels.
[10:42] <Hasbro> uh i have a problem
[10:42] <archana> Vig, Thanks.
[10:42] <Hasbro> i typed sudo rm -rf to clean my garbage files and now my pc dont boot
[10:42] <Alazare> lolz
[10:42] <Vig> ace_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[10:42] <archana> Hasbro, rm -rf on which directory ?
[10:42] <Hasbro> into the terminal pad
[10:42] <Hasbro> the root
[10:42] <Vig> archana: You are very welcome.
[10:42] <Alazare> LOL
[10:42] <archana> Hahahahah!
[10:42] <Alazare> i think i may of just peed my pants
[10:43] <violinappren> Hasbro: reinstall ubuntu and don't do this again
[10:43] <Hasbro> reinstall???
[10:43] <Hasbro> i dont want to loose my file
[10:43] <Direc> oh lol!
[10:43] <Direc> Hasbro: too late :(
[10:43] <Alazare> your files are gone hasbro
[10:43] <Hasbro> i have my profile and shit
[10:43] <archana> Hasbro, I think you already lost it , unless you have home on different partition
[10:43] <violinappren> Hasbro: use "Computer Janitor" to clean up old files
[10:43] <Hasbro> what do you mean gone
[10:43] <Alazare> your profile are below the root...
[10:43] <Hasbro> why would my files be gone
[10:43] <Alazare> you just perma deleted the root and everything below
[10:43] <archana> Hasbro, If your home was under root, then rm -rf  forcefully removed it.
[10:43] <Hasbro> no i didnt
[10:43] <Alazare> wich your profile is below the root folder
[10:43] <violinappren> Hasbro: use a live cd to check your check disk and if there are any files left
[10:44] <Hasbro> i just cleaned up..
[10:44] <Hasbro> wtf
[10:44] <Direc> "With great power (root privileges)..."
[10:44] <Alazare> Comes great responsibility
[10:44] <archana> Hasbro, rm -rf = DELETE . Why did you do that ? For fun ?
[10:44] <violinappren> Hasbro: mind your language and listen
[10:44] <Hasbro> omg
[10:44] <Hasbro> all my school work is gone???
[10:45] <Alazare> yep
[10:45] <Vig> !backup
[10:45] <Alazare> root = the top msot folder
[10:45] <Hasbro> this cant be happening
[10:45] <Alazare> it did
[10:45] <violinappren> Hasbro: we don't know if they are gone or not, use a Live CD to check your hard disk
[10:45] <Alazare> yea...
[10:45] <archana> Hasbro, why did you do that ? for fun ? You made it to happen.
[10:45] <Alazare> i did pee my pants
[10:45] <Direc> I destroyed my Linux home part once too... Win7 32 and 64 install DVDs decided to actually swap the order of my HDs... Brilliant! Didn't lose much, thouth
[10:45] <Hasbro> i read onlnie to clean pc with that
[10:45] <Hasbro> online
[10:45] <Hasbro> my dad bought my pc from dell
[10:45] <Alazare> make sure your in the right directory tho
[10:45] <suprengr> Vig: cheers.  Reasonfor asking was I was just about to try openSUSE 11.3 to play with an old Railink wireless card problem in Ubuntu introduced in 9.04) that SUSE appears to have corrected, BUT it gave a warning on install setup: The bootloader is installed on a partition that does not lie entirely below 128GB. The system might not boot."  So I thought  i'd have a looksee when I noticed the different sizes. [...&yes,
[10:45] <suprengr> I did abort the OpenSUSE install :-D
[10:45] <Hasbro> hes going to kill me
[10:46] <Hasbro> i cant take the belt again
[10:46] <Hasbro> seriously help me guys
[10:46] <Alazare> open terminal
[10:46] <Vig> Ok, we all learn, Hasbro, please read that Backup thing.
[10:46] <Alazare> cd ./lost+found
[10:46] <violinappren> !ot | Hasbro
[10:46] <ace_> violin I pastebinned them]
[10:46] <violinappren> ace_: what's the address?
[10:46] <Alazare> this is hilarious
[10:46] <Hasbro> lold
[10:46] <Alazare> best thing ive seen all night
[10:47] <Hasbro> you guys are so easy to trollololol
[10:47] <archana> Hasbro, http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?a=54
[10:47] <helloer> Hello, why my ubuntu is running in low resolution?
[10:47] <ace_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/465397/
[10:47] <Alazare> I seriously peed my pants
[10:47] <Alazare> this isnt cool
[10:47] <Vig> suprengr: I am happy that it is resolved and not totally lost.
[10:47] <Hasbro> lold
[10:47] <Alazare> now i need to sudo my gf to change my pants
[10:48] <archana> Alazare, :P
[10:48] <Direc> Alazare: lol
[10:48] <violinappren> ace_: use apt-cache search libsdl (and so on) or search in synaptic
[10:48] <archana> Hasbro, Are you serious - you really deleted the / or just joking ?
[10:48] <Alazare> sudo rm -rf pants
[10:48] <helloer> Xorg.0.log -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/465398/
[10:48] <violinappren> !software | ace_
[10:48] <Hasbro> cd ./home/girlfriend/bin/
[10:49] <Hasbro> sudo make sandwich
[10:49] <Hasbro> ;D
[10:49] <ace_> violin thanks I will try
[10:49] <alan_> Hey guys need some help
[10:49] <Vig> suprengr: When you figure out how to do slices/partitions and sdaś , let me know, I am still having a time with dual booting BSD and GNU/Linux.
[10:49] <violinappren> !help | alan_
[10:50] <oix> hi
[10:50] <ManDay> How do I execute a script directly after X has started? rc.d ?
[10:50] <alan_> Hi all need help installing java for ubuntu i donwloaded: jre-6u21-linux-i586 to desktop then open terminal type: chmod a+x jre-6u21-linux-i586.bin and i get this message: chmod: cannot access `jre-6u21-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directo
[10:50] <suprengr> Vig: ;D   will do.
[10:50] <Vig> Thank you.
[10:50] <archana> alan_, cd Desktop and then use chmod
[10:50] <violinappren> ManDay: .xinitrc perhaps ?
[10:51] <violinappren> alan_: apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[10:51] <alan_> archana, im pretty sure terminal already is on desktop
[10:51] <ManDay> violinappren, yeah that sounds ok - whats the system-vide version of that?
[10:51] <alan_> ill give it a try
[10:51] <helloer> Hello, why my ubuntu is running in low resolution? Xorg.0.log -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/465398/
[10:51] <archana> !eyecandy
[10:52] <Vig> archana: Correct
[10:52] <oix> Hi! I have a bug on 10.04, after sometime of using, I can't use my keyboard and when I try to open the Application Menu, nothing passes, I filmed it (my english is not really good I know) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy6DFTTQHvk
[10:52] <violinappren> ManDay: I'm not sure if there's one, perhaps it's the rc.d script
[10:52] <archana> Vig, but this is full of themes ? :D
[10:52] <alan_> archana it hasnt done anything i got this... alan@alans-desktop:~$ cd Desktop
[10:52] <alan_> alan@alans-desktop:~/Desktop$ chmod a+x jre-6u21-linux-i586.bin
[10:52] <alan_> alan@alans-desktop:~/Desktop$
[10:52] <ManDay> ok
[10:53] <archana> alan_, chmod +x jre-*.bin
[10:53] <violinappren> alan_: use the package from repositories, it's much easier and will be automatically updated, i gave you the command
[10:53] <alan_> ok thank you, im totally new to ubuntu so youll have to bare with me
[10:54] <archana> Vig, But i wanted an alternative to compiz manager... is something like that  available ?
[10:54] <Vig> archana: Using Gnome?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> alan_: there is java on the parner repo in Lucid
[10:54] <archana> Vig, yes
[10:54] <ace_> thanks again violin
[10:54] <Vig> archana: Look at gDesklets
[10:54] <archana> Vig, Thanks!
[10:54] <Vig> archana: You are welcome.
[10:55] <violinappren> helloer: run Xorg -configure (in runlevel 3) to generate an xorg.conf and adjust the file manually to set your desired resolution
[10:55] <tensorpudding> Can the compose key create double-acute accents?
[10:56] <archana> alan_, installed it ?
[10:56] <violinappren> ActionParsnip: OpenJDK is Free and works extremely well
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> archana: you can use simdock if you want a dock without compositing
[10:56] <alan_> violinappren i got this... alan@alans-desktop:~/Desktop$  apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[10:56] <alan_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[10:56] <alan_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[10:56] <alan_> alan@alans-desktop:~/Desktop$
[10:56] <FloodBot1> alan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:56] <Vig> tensorpudding: I am pretty sure. yes, Is just keyboard mapping and stuff.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> violinappren: true but the user is trying to install java using the .bin file which is fairly pointless as its in the repo
[10:57] <archana> alan_, use "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre"
[10:57] <violinappren> alan_: add sudo before command
[10:57] <violinappren> ActionParsnip: yes, that's why i've directed him to install openjdk
[10:57] <archana> alan_, "are you root" IT asks you, add sudo to the start . Enter your pasword .. dots wont appear.
[10:57] <tensorpudding> Vig: yes, but it doesn't look like the GTK compose table supports it
[10:57] <sappel> hello. can anyone help me with this howto? https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html          i'm stuck when trying to add the frontend ldif. I get a "ldap_bind: invalid credentials (49)" after entering the ldap pw
[10:57] <alan_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:57] <alan_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:57] <alan_> alan@alans-desktop:~/Desktop$
[10:57] <archana> ActionParsnip, Thanks.
[10:58] <violinappren> alan_: are you running synaptic, software center or installing updates ?
[10:58] <Vig> tensorpudding: Is Compiz enabled or AWN or such stuff?
[10:58] <violinappren> alan_: close any of those if open
[10:59] <alan_> violinappren i only open terminal to enter the commands you giving me
[10:59] <tensorpudding> I don't know what you mean.
[10:59] <archana> alan_, if you are not running software center, synaptic , then "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[10:59] <tensorpudding> What does that have to do with the compose key?
[10:59] <waterboy0911> hello noob here.. can anyone pm me and hellp meout..
[10:59] <Vig> tensorpudding: Do you have the pkg Compiz installed?
[10:59] <tensorpudding> It works fine for everything else, I just couldn't get it to input a double accute
[10:59] <archana> alan_, and then use "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre"
[10:59] <violinappren> alan_: sudo lsof | grep lock # and paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:59] <archana> waterboy0911, !ask
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> alan_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-install-sun-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[10:59] <tensorpudding> It wasn't a huge deal since I was only needing to use it twice.
[11:00] <archana> !ask | waterboy0911
[11:00] <violinappren> archana: a background update process may be running
[11:00] <tensorpudding> Whoever came up with compose forgot about Hungarian.
[11:00] <alan_> guys its working thank you very much you help is much appreciated
[11:02] <alan_> whats software center aynaptic?
[11:03] <Vig> tensorpuddding: Maybe this page will help:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[11:03] <Galdor2> I want to ask a question
[11:03] <Misterio> !ask | Galdor2
[11:04] <Galdor2> I ask a question
[11:04] <violinappren> !software | alan_
[11:04] <Galdor2> what question shall I ask?
[11:04] <Misterio> Galdor2: If you have any support question, ask it
[11:04] <Galdor2> what support question?
[11:05] <violinappren> !ot | Galdor2
[11:05] <Misterio> !topic > Galdor2
[11:05] <Galdor2> what is the topic, misterio?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> !ubuntu | Galdor2
[11:06] <Galdor2> why?
[11:06] <Misterio> Galdor2: If you don't have any question go to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:06] <Galdor2> Misterio: what question shall I ask there?
[11:07]  * violinappren loves the new ubuntu font
[11:07] <Galdor2> tell me
[11:07] <Misterio> Galdor2: Are you using Ubuntu? Do you need help with it? If yes ask qustion, if not, please, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:07] <Galdor2> but why should I not ask a question in ubunto-offtopic?
[11:07] <alan_> violinappren i now have installed java but how do i update it as i have Version 6 Update 18 ans thats an older version
[11:08] <tensorpudding> it'd be ironic if i upgrade ext4 to btrfs so that i could have better backup support, and then have btrfs fail so that i would have to restore from said backups
[11:08] <Galdor2> can't I ask questions there?
[11:08] <violinappren> alan_: what's the output of java -version
[11:08] <om26er> Galdor2, you can if they are related to Ubuntu support
[11:09] <Galdor2> do you like questions related to ubuntu support?
[11:09]  * violinappren thinks trolls should be ignored 
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> +1 violinappren
[11:09] <alan_> violinappren not sure what you mean, i installed it how you showed me but i have Version 6 Update 18
[11:09] <Misterio> ActionParsnip: I reported to -ops
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Misterio: cheers fellah
[11:09] <Galdor2> misterio, do you like such questions?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> alan_: if you use the guide I gave it will install java and will upgrade it when newer versions are released, using the bin file will require manual upgrading
[11:10] <KB1JWQ> Galdor2: Please keep to topic.
[11:11] <violinappren> alan_: openjdk has different versioning than SUN jdk (but they are almost the same) are you having a problem with a specific application ?
[11:11] <Galdor2> I want to ask a question about the topic
[11:11] <violinappren> KB1JWQ: please ignore
[11:11] <KB1JWQ> violinappren: Hmm?
[11:11] <om26er> IdleOne, there?
[11:11] <Galdor2> what question shall I ask about the topic?
[11:12] <violinappren> KB1JWQ: nvm, wrong person
[11:12] <KB1JWQ> Galdor2: You've had the channel topicality guidelines explained.  Probably best to discuss in -offtopic. :-)
[11:12] <theadmin> Is there a way to reconfigure Ubuntu to use Zsh rather than Bash?
[11:12] <KB1JWQ> theadmin: Sure.  Install it, then chsh for the relevant user.
[11:12] <violinappren> theadmin: /etc/passwd
[11:13] <Galdor2> what shall I discuss in offtopic?
[11:13] <alan_> violinappren im tryiung to install jdownloader but it says i need java
[11:13] <Misterio> Thank you KB1JWQ
[11:13] <theadmin> KB1JWQ: Do I have to reconfigure GNOME "Login shell" option, too, or will chsh be same?
[11:13] <Direc> Galdor2: If you have to aks us that question, perhaps you shoudln't :D
[11:13] <KB1JWQ> theadmin: Not sure offhand.  I don't do much with the GUI these days. :-)
[11:13] <theadmin> KB1JWQ: Ah I see.
[11:14] <theadmin> !find zsh
[11:14] <theadmin> ubottu: Thanks.
[11:14] <violinappren> alan_: link to jdownloader ?
[11:14] <archana> Alternative to teamviewer ?
[11:14] <theadmin> archana: Teamviewer. They have a Linux version :P
[11:14] <alan_> 1 sec
[11:15] <archana> theadmin, i knEw
[11:15] <theadmin> archana: Well... Other than that... ssh, MX, Yuuguu, jrdesktop...
[11:15] <alan_> violinappren brb  computer going crazy need to reboot
[11:15] <theadmin> archana: But none are really as simple, quick and effective as teamviewer :D
[11:15] <archana> theadmin, Are all these as easy as Teamviewer
[11:16] <theadmin> archana: I find teamviewer to do it's job best, but hey it's just me
[11:16] <mgolisch> yeah teamviewer rocks, lin,osx,win
[11:16] <abhijit> I also use teamviwer and i like it
[11:17] <archana> but teamviewer is not opensource.......
[11:17] <theadmin> mgolisch: And Iphone :P
[11:17] <abhijit> ........
[11:17] <mgolisch> yeah right, but actualy i dont care about that
[11:17] <theadmin> archana: If that's important... Hm... Yuuguu is not opensource either, so scratch that one
[11:17] <archana> theadmin, is there an opensource alternative to teamviewer which is easy :P as teamviewer ?
[11:18] <mgolisch> what product with same features is there thats opensource?
[11:18] <raven> how to show cmd output of background processes?
[11:18] <theadmin> archana: None I know.
[11:18] <abhijit> raven, fb
[11:18] <abhijit> raven, sorry its fg
[11:18] <archana> theadmin, thanks for replying
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> raven: ps -ef | less
[11:19] <ibrahim> what about openvpn server
[11:20] <raven> abhijit, how to show unison for example?
[11:20] <abhijit> raven, follow what ActionParsnip is saying first
[11:20] <raven> ActionParsnip, how to show output of top for example?
[11:20] <violinappren> raven: top is an ncurses application
[11:20] <abhijit> !cli | raven
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> raven: just run top, it will output
[11:21] <violinappren> raven: try 'ps' for similar functionality that can be piped
[11:21] <erUSUL> raven: top has a batch option.
[11:22] <raven> ActionParsnip, but for example unison running in the background - how to show what file is scanned at the moment for example?
[11:22] <erUSUL> raven: top -b -n 1
[11:24] <jumpa> Hi. Im setting up a nfs system. I want changes that i have made when i was offline, that means the nfs was not mounted, to be sync to the server when i go online. How can i do this?
[11:25] <alan_> violanappren here you go http://jdownloader.org/
[11:25] <alan_> its a program so you can add rapidshare links
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> jumpa: rsync sounds like a good call
[11:25] <erUSUL> jumpa: how can you make any changes if the share was not mounted ? the files where not there ...
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: you could change local then upload to nfs
[11:27] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: then why bother with nfs? ssh+rsync is enough; isn't it ? you have a loal copy that you sync from time to time...
[11:27] <violinappren> jumpa: perhaps a distributed revision control system? like mercurial, git or bzr
[11:29] <jumpa> violinappren: i want to sync my dev folder. i think this could a problem when i have projects inside of it, which is part of a repository itself
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: i guess it gives a central point of storage, kinda like synchronising mydocs in windows when you use a central server for docs but users can go offline and sync up when they next are in the office to make the most recently changed file be on both systems
[11:33] <meatbun> if i format sda to ext3, and copied all of ubuntu's iso files into it, un-iso it. make sda1 as active, it will boot?
[11:33] <violinappren> jumpa: i think you should orgnize stuff into repos and sync all at once
[11:33] <meatbun> then install ubuntu on sda2 partition
[11:34] <meatbun> ?
[11:34] <meatbun> any ideas?
[11:34] <sappel> edit: new problem with ldap: "Invalid DN syntax (34)" when trying to add the linked frontend.ldif http://pastebin.de/8312
[11:34] <erUSUL> meatbun: do not think that will work... but i herad that grub2 can boot isos from a hard disk
[11:35] <sappel> grub is not installed on sda yet in his szenario
[11:35] <meatbun> erUSUL: cool. what file system does it need to be ? at least ext2?
[11:36] <erUSUL> meatbun: " i heard " == do not know the details; sorry
[11:37] <CukeIsAMetalTool> hi all
[11:38] <CukeIsAMetalTool> i'm planning to  reinstall ubuntu but i want to keep my home
[11:38] <CukeIsAMetalTool> so i don't want to format it
[11:38] <asus> hi
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> meatbun: edit ubuntu_50    here is an example: http://ansi.interblc.com/2010/02/06/howto-boot-iso-images-via-grub2-with-ubuntu/
[11:38] <yoshie> DVD unmounted trying to mount again showing hidden files with ( sudo mount -t udf -o ro,unhide /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0 ) getting error  ( mount: mount point /media/cdrom0 does not exist ) help please.
[11:38] <CukeIsAMetalTool> i know that in the setup process i can flag to not format it hwr i'm a little scared in the process of user creation
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> meatbun: 50_ubuntu sorry
[11:39] <violinappren> meatbun: you can use unetbootin on hard disk partitions
[11:39] <CukeIsAMetalTool> suppose that the installer mount the home without formatting
[11:39] <violinappren> !unetbootin | meatbun
[11:39] <CukeIsAMetalTool> but than it start to create the user
[11:39] <CukeIsAMetalTool> and find already the previous home...
[11:39] <erUSUL> yoshie: the folder /media/cdrom0/ existe ?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> CukeIsAMetalTool: it will not format it if you tell it not to, you must specify its file system and mount point at install time and it will mount correctly for you
[11:41] <violinappren> CukeIsAMetalTool: first of all, backup your stuff, second, creating a user with a different name will not touch your old files, creating a user with the same name MAY or may not conflict with exisiting files (depending on what distro that /home belonged to, basically wether the user had the same ID or not)
[11:41] <violinappren> whether
[11:42] <violinappren> CukeIsAMetalTool: if the new use has a different ID, you can use chown to fix your files
[11:43] <CukeIsAMetalTool> violinappren, ActionParsnip yep that's what scares me..
[11:43] <CukeIsAMetalTool> violinappren, ActionParsnip yep that's what scares me..
[11:43] <CukeIsAMetalTool> violinappren, ActionParsnip so you tell me to create a new user with different name, than copy the old stuff in the new home
[11:43] <CukeIsAMetalTool> and than change the user id
[11:44] <meatbun> ActionParsnip: i hope blu ray drive is smarter. the older gen DVD, have all these emulation. in order for it to boot
[11:44] <united> hi all
[11:44] <violinappren> CukeIsAMetalTool: if you created a user with a different name, you wouldn't need to change any ids, just copy old stuff to new home
[11:44] <violinappren> !hi | united
[11:45] <united> please join   United Linux survey    http://united.bourax.com
[11:45] <violinappren> !ot | united
[11:45] <meatbun> ActionParsnip: some dvd drive. have to use floppy dive emulation
[11:46] <united> hi
[11:46] <metalgeek> Hi Guys, Am New to linux.  Do i need to worry about fragmentation of my hard drive?
[11:47] <erUSUL> !defrag
[11:47] <anki> can someone help me to setup a dual boot for gentoo also windows 7 here is my fdisk list ---->> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/238962/ and here is my grub config  ---->> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/238963/ please help me out.
[11:47] <yoshie> erUSUL im not sure
[11:47] <violinappren> !ot | anki
[11:47] <yoshie> erUSUL when i try and mount the DVD it gives error mount: mount point /media/cdrom0 does not exist
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[11:48] <violinappren> yoshie: stat /media/cdrom0
[11:48] <abhijit> anki, gentoo support in #gentoo
[11:48] <anki> but violinappren in this case it doesnt it matter if its gentoo or ubuntu its the same..
[11:48] <erUSUL> yoshie: do « ls /media/cdrom0 »
[11:48] <united> violinappren, hi
[11:48] <abhijit> anki, to join type /j #gentoo
[11:48] <violinappren> anki: it matters
[11:48] <yoshie> erUSUL  [root@localhost yoshie]# ls /media/cdrom0
[11:48] <yoshie> ls: cannot access /media/cdrom0: No such file or directory
[11:49] <anki> ok ..
[11:49] <violinappren> !topic > united
[11:49] <anki> lol
[11:49] <erUSUL> yoshie: that dir does not exist. either mount to another; existing; dir or create the dir before mounting
[11:50] <yoshie> erUSUL any tips on how to do that?
[11:50] <united> ubottu, it is just alert to all Linux user, thx for support
[11:50] <erUSUL> yoshie: sudo mkdir /media/cdrom0
[11:50] <erUSUL> yoshie: that will create the directorie
[11:51] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip, violinappren sorry xchat client crashed
[11:51] <yoshie> erUSUL ok it maid the DIR but nothing happend so i guess that worked
[11:51] <erUSUL> yoshie: probably; unix tools only scream if something goes wrong
[11:51] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip, violinappren so i can't use the same "nickname"...better to choose a new one, and that copy all content from the old home to new home
[11:52] <yoshie> erUSUL yeah hehe
[11:52] <gaurav> i have problem in my updates
[11:52] <yoshie> erUSUL ok so now i try and mount again?
[11:52] <erUSUL> yoshie: yes
[11:52] <gaurav> can anyone help me
[11:52] <metalgeek> erUSUL, Sorry i dont understand :)
[11:52] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip, violinappren cause the other idea was to mount the old home partition as /data a leave the home partiton in the /
[11:52] <yoshie> erUSUL oh wow !
[11:53] <sayem_> unix exams tomorrow ^_^
[11:53] <yoshie> erUSUL worked PERFECT
[11:53] <violinappren> ubuntu, that will work too
[11:53] <violinappren> !anyone | gaurav
[11:55] <nexus6__> is there a command for the shell which shows me my premissions?
[11:55] <erUSUL> yoshie: simply that dirctory did not existed.
[11:55] <gaurav> my question is my update in ubuntu 10.04 lts in not working
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> !ask | gaurav
[11:55] <erUSUL> nexus6__: what permissions ?
[11:55] <gaurav> help me about my updates
[11:55] <cwillu_at_work> nexus6__, ls -l
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> nexus6__: ls -al folder
[11:55] <abhijit> !details | gaurav
[11:55] <yoshie> erUSUL hmm ok. Well thank you very much. You have ben a great help ^^ thanks again.
[11:55] <dagon666> now thats a split
[11:56] <gaurav> when i run my update manger it not showing any updates
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> gaurav:  try it from terminal? 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[11:56] <metalgeek> Maddening Lag, Anyideas
[11:56] <dagon666> hello, Im looking for a mini-ITX board for HTPC system which should be capable of running XBMC and decode 1080p HD movies, can you guys recommend anything. I read a little about ION ZOTAC 330, can anyone say anything about it ?
[11:57] <X3> hi, I need desperate help with packging for ppa, looking for someone who can package or help me one on one
[11:57] <X3> dagon666: asrock ION 330 HT
[11:57] <nexus6__> the problem is i got a webspace and it says i have SSH access (its ubuntu) now i just logged in via putty... well and i dont have the permission to tar my html folder so i want to know which permissions i have
[11:57] <abhijit> X3, /j #ubuntu-packaging
[11:57] <dagon666> X3: can you give me a link with the specification ?
[11:58] <sayem_> yeah! and whenevr I try to install any soft using synaptic it says the package can't be trusted... have to change the software source every single damn time
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> gaurav: can you run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:58] <francesco_> !paste
[11:58] <violinappren> sayem_: sudo apt-get update (in terminal)
[11:58] <metalgeek> I keep getting maddening slowdowns in xchat, sometimes for up to 5 mins, its driving me barmy
[11:58] <sayem_> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 2EBC26B60C5A2783 Medibuntu Packaging Team <admin@lists.medibuntu.org>
[11:58] <sayem_> W: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/lucid/Release
[11:58] <sayem_> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> sayem_: i've seen this before, its been a dns issue each time
[11:59] <X3> dagon666: http://www.asrock.com/nettop/overview.asp?Model=ION%20330HT
[11:59] <violinappren> sayem_: check mirror
[11:59] <sayem_> yeah
[11:59] <violinappren> sayem_: change mirror to something else if it doesn't work
[11:59] <X3> dagon666: and to set it up use https://sourceforge.net/projects/xci
[12:00] <sayem_> I've been changing mirrors every single damn timew I've to install a software... then only it will install from the soft centre
[12:00] <gaurav> doing from terminal its shows 0 updates
[12:00] <X3> abhijit: thx
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> gaurav:  so... back up.. what makes you think you have an actual problem?
[12:00] <violinappren> sayem_: perhaps your dns server is acting up, trying 8.8.8.8 (google's public dns)
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> sayem_: if you add an entry  from packages.medibuntu.org to resolve to 88.191.101.8   it should be fine
[12:00] <iceroot> gaurav: then there are no updates in the repos you are using
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> sayem_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810
[12:01] <abhijit> X3, welcome :)
[12:01] <nexus6__> any idea?
[12:01] <dagon666> X3: yeah, but this is a while machine, cant figure out what mobo is inside, but I suspect that this is very similar to ION ZOTAC 330
[12:01] <sayem_> thanks a bunch! :) let's see if it works
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> nexus6__: cd ..; ls -ls folder
[12:01] <metalgeek> How can i reduce IRC Lag?
[12:02] <yunintegral> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1533526 how can i solve this problem?
[12:02] <violinappren> nexus6__: cd html, tar -cf html.tar *
[12:02] <nexus6__> that tars the folder i am in right?
[12:02] <gaurav> my problems is when i start movie player its ask me for suitable pulgins  how can i install all plugins for all sofwtares
[12:02] <violinappren> nexus6__: yes
[12:02] <X3> dagon666: all the ions are manufactured by same company and the asrock is best IMO (I have one)
[12:03] <violinappren> !software | gaurav
[12:03] <dagon666> X3: u use it as HTPC ?
[12:03] <X3> dagon666: zotac/asrock/asus doest manufacture anything
[12:03] <X3> dagon666: yes
[12:03] <X3> dagon666: with xbmc
[12:03] <dagon666> X3: any glitches with 1080p ?
[12:04] <nexus6__> and how can i unpack a tar file?
[12:04] <gaurav> tell me what is the basic setting of software sources
[12:04] <violinappren> nexus6__: tar xvf something.tar
[12:04] <X3> dagon666: the only glitches are with the person behind it
[12:04] <metalgeek> ANYONE?
[12:04] <gaurav> on which i check or uncheck
[12:04] <violinappren> !ot | metalgeek
[12:05] <X3> dagon666: it works excelent
[12:05] <metalgeek> I'm using ubuntu
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> gaurav:  there are specific plugins that totem can use for expanded 'codecs' thats not related to updateing tghe syste,
[12:05] <oCean_> metalgeek: no need for caps. Also your lag is caused by quality of service from your ISP - call them.
[12:05] <duffydack> how can I get the exact block count to use so  I dont get "dd: writing to `/dev/sdc6': No space left on device" when writing zeros?
[12:05]  * DLZ ncnnc
[12:05] <dagon666> X3: did you installed xmbc over normal ubuntu distro ?
[12:05] <sam_sam> i m using pppoe i can't go online via '/etc/networking start' or via GUI network connections, however i can do it with pon dsl-provider and pppoeconf. how to fix the normal GUI? it says resolv.conf file must be a symlink, so i created a link for a file existing there already with resolv.conf name without success.
[12:05] <X3> dagon666: and to set it up use https://sourceforge.net/projects/xci
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad - GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
[12:05] <metalgeek> Caps got an answer, i was ignored before sorry
[12:06] <gaurav> there is any way to install all software codecs plugins or etc
[12:06] <X3> dagon666: https://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/xci/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2
[12:06] <abhijit> !multimedia | gaurav
[12:06] <erUSUL> duffydack: do not specify any block count and dd should stop when the file ends
[12:06] <metalgeek> gaurav, for playback of vids etc?
[12:06] <erUSUL> gaurav: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:07]  * DLZ i wnat
[12:07] <DLZ> acc
[12:07] <DLZ> i want
[12:07] <DLZ> acc
[12:07] <DLZ> here
[12:07] <FloodBot2> DLZ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:07] <gaurav> form where i find this ubuntu - restricted -extars
[12:07]  * DLZ LoL :)
[12:07] <abhijit> !acc | DLZ
[12:07] <DLZ> what boot
[12:07] <meatbun> any one installed ubuntu 64 bit on the newer atom chip? does it really works with 64 bit?
[12:07] <duffydack> erUSUL, im not.  I know its not 'bad' to not specify any and have it just run out at the end but I just wondered if there was a cleaner way of doing it..
[12:07] <meatbun> n450
[12:07] <metalgeek> sudo apt-get
[12:07] <meatbun> atom
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> gaurav:  its a pacakte in the pakage manatger you install.. and get the name right
[12:07] <abhijit> gaurav, visit that page give by ubottu
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:07] <DLZ> thanks
[12:07] <DLZ> s
[12:07] <oCean_> DLZ: stop
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> meatbun: if the chip is 64bit then ubuntu 64bit will run
[12:07] <metalgeek> gaurav, in terminal type sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:08] <DLZ> oCean_ what i am doing
[12:08] <dagon666> X3: nice, thanks,
[12:08] <DLZ> why you sayd stop
[12:08] <dagon666> X3: Im going to give it a try
[12:08] <oCean_> DLZ: stop entering random text in the channel. This is technical issues only
[12:08] <sam_sam>  i m using pppoe i can't go online via '/etc/networking start' or via GUI network connections, however i can do it with pon dsl-provider and pppoeconf. how to fix the normal GUI? it says resolv.conf file must be a symlink, so i created a link for a file existing there already with resolv.conf name without success.
[12:08] <gaurav> tell me the default setting of software sorces
[12:08] <violinappren> DLZ: group your words on one line
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> gaurav:  the spefific packages you want (and that ubuntu-restricted-extras should install) would be -> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good ,gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse   , I think.
[12:08] <DLZ> but is my script
[12:08] <meatbun> ActionParsnip: i am looking for testimony . how it feels etc... speed..
[12:08] <erUSUL> sam_sam: maybe you need to install resolvconf package ...
[12:09] <coolguy4> hi, I want a use a program to play some music. It has an option '-d' to specify the audio device. The default is /dev/dsp . Run I run the program, it dies because /dev/dsp is busy. How can I find out what sound device I should use on my system?
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> The whold good/bad/ugly gstreamer stuff has me a little confused. :)
[12:09] <MaRk-I> gaurav: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:09] <violinappren> !sound | coolguy4
[12:09] <erUSUL> coolguy4: if it still uses /dev/dsp is an ancient program ... you should use a wrapper
[12:10] <coolguy4> erUSUL: cool, how do I do that?
[12:10] <erUSUL> coolguy4: padsp program [option] -d /dev/dsp
[12:10] <metalgeek> is anyone going to help please
[12:10] <sam_sam> erUSUL: i used to do it normal ways earlier.. i dont do many changes to system ( still 9.04 :S) dont know what triggered the unability to connect
[12:10] <erUSUL> coolguy4: padsp would make that program work with pulseaudio
[12:11] <gaurav> what is basic setting for update manger
[12:11] <erUSUL> sam_sam: neither do i; ages since i used pppoe
[12:11] <MaRk-I> metalgeek: get a better connection or ask in #freenode about diff. ports
[12:11] <coolguy4> erUSUL: thanks I think that's what I needed
[12:11] <oCean_> gaurav: what?
[12:11] <erUSUL> coolguy4: no problem
[12:12] <erUSUL> !sources | gaurav
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> meatbun: feels the same, speed will be the same too except in data intensive situations like audio encoding and video encoding
[12:12] <gaurav> in update manger what setting i do when the box open of software sorces
[12:13] <metalgeek> MaRk-I, Connection is fine, all other internet traffic works fast, this is the only laggy thing
[12:13] <erUSUL> gaurav: System>Admin...>software Sources
[12:13] <nexus6__> another question how can i backup all databases from one user? instead of backup every single db?
[12:13] <gaurav> yes erUSUL
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> gaurav:  i think the gstreamer packages you may want are listed here. --> http://pastebin.com/QkbRUG7n
[12:13] <oCean_> nexus6__: databases?
[12:13] <gaurav> tell me on what option i check
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> gaurav: depends what you want to add, there is no single answer
[12:13] <MaRk-I> metalgeek: well I'm using xchat and no problems, ask in #freenode
[12:13] <meatbun> ActionParsnip: work sometimes means, it installed. but 90% of the time, machine hangs. that's is not working to me
[12:13] <liam_> Could some please help me to get my startup/shutdown splash screens back ? I'm totally out of ideas now
[12:13] <Charbel> hi why when i do reload in synaptic package manager i got this ---> An error occurred / The following details are provided: / W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_dists_lucid_partner_binary-i386_Packages) ???
[12:14] <sam_sam> gaurav: well when i started using ubuntu i preferred vlc.. try it ?
[12:14] <violinappren> nexus6__: databases of what? mysql? there's a mysql "data directory"
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> meatbun: when it drops run: dmesg | tail    it will tell you whats going on.
[12:14] <mbarosky> HI everybody
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> gaurav:  i also much perfer vlc, and smplayer (or gmplayer) to totem
[12:14] <gaurav> i only want to add needed updates , and my software updates
[12:14] <violinappren> !anyone | liam_
[12:14] <violinappren> !hi | mbarosky
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> Charbel:  somewhere in your package  sources.list or sources.list.d you have 2 identical lines. Its not a big deal.
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> gaurav: if you want updates run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    and you will be fully updated
[12:15] <mbarosky> thanks
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> Charbel:  its just a 'warning'
[12:15] <oCean_> gaurav: when you install software, the repositories you install from are enabled, also for updates.
[12:15] <gaurav> ok
[12:15] <meatbun> ActionParsnip: ok
[12:15] <sam_sam> plugins aren't updates btw .. anyways getting them doesnt harm ;)
[12:15] <violinappren> gaurav: we are having troubling understanding your question, if english is not your native language, there are ubuntu rooms with different languages
[12:15] <gaurav> but there is no updates showing
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> gaurav: then you are fully updated
[12:16] <gaurav> kk
[12:16] <Charbel> thx Dr_Willis
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> gaurav:  you are confuseing what 'updates' are.
[12:16] <gaurav> thanks
[12:16] <erUSUL> gaurav: change your mirror in the first tab of the software sources dialog ...
[12:16] <liam_> !anyone help me to get my startup/shutdown splash screens back ? I'm totally out of ideas now
[12:16] <gaurav> my system updates
[12:16] <metalgeek> ok, another question, under windows when i uninstall a prog sometimes i have to go to other places to delete remenants of the prog, dose ubuntu have the same problem, if not, why?
[12:16] <liam_> ?
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> gaurav:  updates are newer versions of stuff you allready have installed.
[12:16] <violinappren> !details | liam_
[12:16] <Guest35002> rexo3240
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> metalgeek:  apt package manager system = reason why its not really a problem.
[12:17] <gaurav> my webcam is not working in my laptop
[12:17] <violinappren> metalgeek: sometimes packages leave configuration files, use apt-get purge to completely remove all its files
[12:17] <metalgeek> Dr_Willis, Thanks, What about third party apps
[12:17] <^Jay2^> is there anyway for totem to play WMV ?
[12:17] <dagon666> metalgeek: if those are .deb then also there is no problem
[12:18] <violinappren> gaurav: type lspci  in a terminal and paste to a pastebin
[12:18] <violinappren> !pastebin > gaurav
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> metalgeek: you will need to add --purge or select "remove config files" in software sources but it will remove all the remnants
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> metalgeek:  if they use the package manager system.. no issue..
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> metalgeek:  thisis one of the MANY reasons linux people tend to hate 'self installing exwecutables' that are so common in windows.
[12:18] <metalgeek> ActionParsnip, sorry?
[12:18] <erUSUL> !webcam | gaurav
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> metalgeek:  when in doubt use  the .deb packages for anything you want to use.
[12:19] <metalgeek> Dr_Willis, makes sense, What about defragging?
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> metalgeek:  normally never needed
[12:19] <liam_> Running 10.04 , I had the startup/shutdown screens when i first installed but now they don't display i just get text... i Have restored /etc/default/grub file to the original so i know it's not to do with that, i have also tried "sudo update-alternatives --auto default.plymouth" and "sudo echo "FRAMEBUFFER=y" > /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash && sudo update-initramfs -u"
[12:19] <violinappren> !defrag | metalgeek
[12:20] <metalgeek> Beautiful, thanks for everything, love you guys
[12:20] <metalgeek> quit
[12:22] <MaRk-I> liam_:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"    <<< this is all you needed to get splash back...
[12:22] <sam_sam> is adding natural language processors to ubottu a step towards making it inteligent ;) ?
[12:24] <hellou> hi all
[12:24] <liam_> MaRk-I i have tried that already ... still having no luck
[12:24] <violinappren> !hi | hellou
[12:24] <gaurav> how to use broadcast accounts
[12:24] <sam_sam> !hello
[12:24] <abhijit> !welcome | sam_sam
[12:25] <sam_sam> ubottu , i wanna make u more intelligent, can u help me with that :( ?
[12:26] <liam_> !anyone I'm running 10.04 , I had the startup/shutdown screens when i first installed but now they don't display i just get text... i Have restored /etc/default/grub file to the original so i know it's not to do with that, i have also tried "sudo update-alternatives --auto default.plymouth" and "sudo echo "FRAMEBUFFER=y" > /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash && sudo update-initramfs -u"
[12:27] <tiandenabian> 就没有个说中文的哦
[12:27] <erUSUL> liam_: what graphic driver are you using ? nvidia's binary driver does not play well with playmouth
[12:27] <erUSUL> !cn | tiandenabian
[12:28] <sam_sam> erUSUL:how do u know its chinese ?
[12:28] <erUSUL> sam_sam: experience here;
[12:28] <erUSUL> sam_sam: and chinese gliphs ;P
[12:28] <sam_sam> u assume japanese usually speak english?
[12:28] <liam_> erUSUL : It's just an integrated intel one ? ... I don't think it's to do with that as the splash screens have been displayinfg before
[12:29] <erUSUL> sam_sam: no they usually use the simplified forms not full kanji
[12:29] <abhijit> !ot | sam_sam
[12:30] <sam_sam> yeah sure
[12:31] <jia> 今天剛安裝了lubuntu
[12:32] <violinappren> !en | jia
[12:32] <jia> 為什麼我把語言更新了
[12:32] <jia> 卻還是沒有全部中文化呢？
[12:32] <liam_> No one seems to know the answer ... I have been trying to sort it out for days, i really don't want to re-install but it looks like i may have to, it's not that i really want them, it's more the point i want to know why they aren't displaying
[12:33] <eventyret> Nvidia drivers resets on every reboot. If i set them to create new config and restart X it works as normal until next restart any help please ?.
[12:34] <violinappren> !nv | eventyret
[12:35] <eventyret> violinappren:  done it gives the same error anyway :S
[12:35] <violinappren> eventyret: what error?
[12:35] <eventyret> oh violinappren  sorry my fault there il check it out :)
[12:35] <eventyret> violinappren:  let me check if i tested this i think i have.
[12:36] <Thomas_> VER
[12:37] <eventyret> violinappren: what is the diffrence between restricted drivers and unrestriced ones ?
[12:37] <NeverCast> LOL
[12:37] <NeverCast> http://xkcd.com/619/
[12:38] <liam_> is there any other ubuntu support channels ?
[12:38] <violinappren> eventyret: restricted are not Free/open source
[12:38] <eventyret> violinappren: ok thanks :)
[12:38] <llutz> liam_: try "/msg alis list *ubuntu*" and see yourself
[12:40] <erUSUL> eventyret: or may be opensource but pattent encoumbered or vilate the USA DMCA or whatever *retriction*
[12:40] <eventyret> erUSUL: ok thanks
[12:41] <eventyret> violinappren: of what i can see there must be something wrong because the error is intermitted. i got now 14 xorg.logs
[12:41] <eventyret> inc .old logs :S
[12:41] <io> !channels | liam_
[12:42] <violinappren> everythingdaniel: pastebin Xorg.log.0
[12:42] <violinappren> eventyret: ^
[12:42] <liam_> Thanks :)
[12:42] <io> liam_: No problem. :-)
[12:42] <VeeCount> hiall!
[12:42] <violinappren> !hi | VeeCount
[12:43] <VeeCount> i'm trying to install func/certmaster on Ubuntu at the moment, but not everything seems to be fine. Has anyone got any experienceon the issue?
[12:44]  * Thomas_ sighs because he broke xorg.conf
[12:44] <Thomas_> and has no idea how to fix it
[12:45] <J11> Thomas_: can you put back the backup conf?
[12:45] <Thomas_> that's broke too
[12:45] <Thomas_> <_<
[12:45] <ugliefrog> Help please..im currently using irssi because ubuntu boots in text mode....is the a command i can type in that takes me back to regular boot-up...starx doesnt work
[12:45] <liam_> !channels
[12:46] <eventyret> violinappren: http://pastebin.org/402608
[12:46] <bogdomania> Thomas_, what video card do you use?
[12:46] <Thomas_> nvidia geforce 8700m
[12:46] <bogdomania> nvidia-xconfig
[12:46] <Thomas_> i did
[12:46] <bogdomania> it will generate an xorg.conf
[12:46] <bogdomania> and?
[12:46] <Thomas_> it didn't work
[12:47] <Thomas_> it's said it was successful
[12:47] <Thomas_> and i logged out and logged back in
[12:47] <Thomas_> but it didn't work
[12:47] <bogdomania> did you restarted X >
[12:47] <bogdomania> ?
[12:47] <Thomas_> yes
[12:47] <violinappren> eventyret: (EE) NVIDIA:     system's kernel log for additional error messages.
[12:48] <eventyret> violinappren:  that is syslog ?
[12:48] <nexus6__> is there a way to send files to another ftp server via ssh?
[12:48] <violinappren> liam_: why don't you apt-get install --reinstall the splash screen packages and see how it goes?
[12:49] <Thomas_> brb
[12:49] <bogdomania> Thomas_, i don`t know what happend, but you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:49] <violinappren> eventyret: pastebin it
[12:49] <Thomas_> okay
[12:49] <Thomas_> i did that
[12:49] <eventyret> violinappren: well is that the syslog file ? :P
[12:49] <Thomas_> i'll log out and log back in again
[12:50] <^Jay2^> what is mono in ubuntu????
[12:50] <violinappren> eventyret: kern.log
[12:50] <VeeCount> nexus6__: will scp or sftp be helpful?
[12:50] <violinappren> ^Jay2^: apt-cache search mono
[12:50] <tensorpudding> Mono is an opensource implementation of the .NET CLR and C# compilers and stuff
[12:51] <Thomas_> didn't work :/
[12:51] <^Jay2^> yeah but what does mono do violinappren ?
[12:51] <eventyret> violinappren: http://pastebin.org/402612
[12:51] <tensorpudding> Mono is a runtime, and a C# compiler that targets it.
[12:51] <violinappren> ^Jay2^: it's an implementation of Microsoft .NET, like Sun's Java
[12:51] <nexus6__> i would like to have something without an graphic interface so i can automate it
[12:52] <J11> nexus6__: or you can do something like:  ssh user@host -R21:127.0.0.1:21 -R34000:127.0.0.1:34000 where 34000 is your passive port
[12:52] <^Jay2^> violinappren: i see, why do people want to remove mono fro 10.04???
[12:52] <alan_> Hey all, i got 64bit processor but using ubuntu 32bit should i switch to 64bit?
[12:52] <tensorpudding> Because the CLR and the C# language are designed by Microsoft.
[12:52] <Thomas_> Alan, no
[12:52] <Thomas_> Probably not
[12:52] <J11> nexus6__: that would make your remote ftp local
[12:52] <alan_> why not thomas? compability?
[12:52] <violinappren> ^Jay2^: because Microsoft threatens to sue people
[12:52] <Thomas_> I doubt you'll need all 3.5 GB of RAM that is supported and yes, compatibality
[12:52] <^Jay2^> alan_: just install pae and you're fine
[12:53] <alan_> whats pae?
[12:53] <jan-riedstadt> waht is pae
[12:53] <jan-riedstadt> :D
[12:53] <LogicalDash> alan_, there is no Ubuntu 64bit. It automatically swaps out the 32bit kernel for a 64bit kernel when you installed.
[12:53] <^Jay2^> !pae
[12:53] <tensorpudding> Microsoft works with the Mono people to an extent. There is no real threat of litigation.
[12:53] <Thomas_> Logical Dash
[12:53] <Thomas_> yes there is
[12:53] <Thomas_> on the ubuntu download page
[12:53] <Thomas_> is a download for ubuntu 64 bit
[12:53] <LogicalDash> o.O
[12:53] <bogdomania> alan_, read this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765428
[12:54] <Thomas_> but yes, my xorg.conf is officially broke. idk what else to do besides reinstall
[12:54] <alan_> also im using ubuntu on my external hdd which is crap i was thinking about installing ubuntu on the same hdd that i have windows 7 but different partition will it be ok? i dont want it to mess my boot
[12:54] <J11> nexus6__: wait, maybe -L is better in that case
[12:54] <VeeCount> still any clue for func/certmaster on Ubuntu?
[12:54] <Thomas_> bbl if i'm lucky
[12:55] <bogdomania> Thomas_, did you check the log file? what seems to be the problem listed ?
[12:55] <tensorpudding> alan_: you can install Ubuntu just fine on it, so long as you have enough free space on your windows partition
[12:55] <violinappren> !wubi | alan_
[12:55] <tensorpudding> The installer comes with a partition editor that can resize your windows partitioner to make room for Ubuntu
[12:55] <mattycoze> hey does anyone know how to find the make.sys file?
[12:55] <mattycoze> on ubuntu
[12:55] <^Jay2^> is there anyways to make klite codec to run flawlessly for ubuntu
[12:55] <tensorpudding> It's kinda slow to resize though
[12:55] <Araneidae> What's the "ubuntu" way to add a new hard disk?
[12:56] <violinappren> Araneidae: it will be automatically "added"
[12:56] <mattycoze> i've tried typing in find / make.sys", but it just searches for ages and I don't actually know whether it's finding anything
[12:56] <tensorpudding> You'll need to partition and format it.
[12:56] <tensorpudding> Gparted can do that
[12:56] <violinappren> mattycoze: what are you trying to accomplish ?
[12:57] <Araneidae> violinappren, not really -- it's blank!  However, System->Administration->Disk Utility looks the place to start
[12:57] <alan_> thanx guys
[12:57] <violinappren> Araneidae: what's blank? the hard disk? of course you need to partition it
[12:58] <violinappren> !gparted | Araneidae
[12:58] <tensorpudding> Araneidae: get gparted from the software center
[12:58] <mattycoze> violinappren i'm following some advice i've been reading on an ubuntu forum post that gives specific instructions to edit the make.sys file before running 'make clean' and then 'make all'
[12:58] <mattycoze> violinapprenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360942
[12:58] <violinappren> mattycoze: advice to do what? link ?
[12:58] <mattycoze> ^^
[12:59] <violinappren> mattycoze: did you download and extract the source code?
[12:59] <Araneidae> I think my question was more about where to mount a new hard disk.
[12:59] <mattycoze> huh?
[12:59] <mattycoze> oh
[12:59] <mattycoze> facepalm
[13:00] <mattycoze> well actually i downloaded the program from the repo
[13:00] <violinappren> Araneidae: if partitioned, it will be listened under Places, if you want it to be automatically mounted, check /etc/fstab
[13:00] <mattycoze> the official repository
[13:00] <Araneidae> Ok, so fstab is the standard place
[13:00] <violinappren> mattycoze: in source or binary?
[13:00]  * Araneidae is never sure what Ubuntu has changed
[13:00] <violinappren> Araneidae: on GNU/Linux, yes
[13:01] <grifo74> how can i unistall vmware in consol?????
[13:01] <mattycoze> violinappren i'm pretty sure they were binary files; it was handled by the apt-get program and it installed itself
[13:01] <violinappren> grifo74: how did you install it in the first place ?
[13:01] <mattycoze> i guess my problem isn't actually anything to do with the installation, as it is installed already
[13:01] <violinappren> mattycoze: then no need to compile (as instructed in the forum link).. just run it?
[13:02] <Araneidae> Ew.  How do I get the UUID of my disk to put in fstab?
[13:02] <mattycoze> i just want to try and use the program, except I don't know where it's installed to (i figured the comments by dannyx would help me probe the program to work or something :/)
[13:02] <grifo74> sh  ...
[13:02] <violinappren> Araneidae: blkid
[13:03] <Araneidae> Thanks
[13:03] <violinappren> mattycoze: what's the name of the package? did you do apt-get install xcrysden? try dpkg --listfiles xcrysden
[13:04] <mattycoze> brb
[13:05] <eventyret> violinappren: did you get the pastebin ? :)
[13:05] <violinappren> eventyret: i can't find any nvidia error messages in that log
[13:05] <eventyret> uhm i think i found some :S
[13:05] <eventyret> violinappren:  go down to line
[13:06] <violinappren> eventyret: link again
[13:06] <eventyret> eventyret: i will
[13:07] <gwern> I remember hearing once that you can use a spare flashcard as some sort of cache for the hard drive, but I've been googling around and can't seem to find anything on this
[13:07] <gwern> anyone know what I'm talking about?
[13:07] <Cyberkilla> readyboost
[13:07] <eventyret> violinappren: i know why the log is to big
[13:07] <Cyberkilla> in windows anyway:lol:
[13:07] <gwern> Cyberkilla: well...
[13:08]  * gwern is funnily enough running ubuntu
[13:08] <aeon-ltd> gwern: no but you can have a /swap partition on it, and mount at boot via fstab
[13:08] <Cyberkilla> gwern: I know. I'm just saying, maybe you could search for "readyboost linux" and find some strange blog explaining how to set something similar up.
[13:08] <eventyret> violinappren: http://pastebin.org/402625
[13:09] <gwern> aeon-ltd: hm, I'm not sure swap ever gets hit here
[13:09] <eventyret> thats what i have read and found in the log pretty long down in it but i cant figure out how to solve it.
[13:09]  * plugwash thinks swap on a flash card is probablly a bad idea
[13:09] <violinappren> eventyret: blacklist nv
[13:10] <aeon-ltd> gwern: how much ram you got?
[13:10] <gwern> plugwash: too many writes? not like I have any other use for a 512mb flash
[13:10] <gwern> aeon-ltd: about 4 gigs
[13:10] <eventyret> violinappren: how i do that ?
[13:10] <aeon-ltd> gwern: ssd for / as well?
[13:10] <gwern> aeon-ltd: hah, one day I'll be able to afford a big ssd, but that day is not today
[13:11] <plugwash> in general swap is write heavy, this is bad both from a performance perspective (generally flash is slow to write) and a lifetime perspective
[13:11] <aeon-ltd> gwern: so why would you want to cache on flash memory with less read/write speed than a reg 7200rpm hdd?
[13:11] <eventyret> violinappren:  sorry to ask can i follow this guide ?http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-drivers-manually-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[13:11] <eventyret> just googled it :)
[13:11] <violinappren> eventyret: pastebin lsmod
[13:12] <gwern> aeon-ltd: I figured that another 512MB would be useful, that's 1/8th of ram, and would let me increase preload's caching
[13:12] <aeon-ltd> gwern: given flash memory's limited r/w
[13:12] <plugwash> what you really want to put on flash is a long term cache (so few writes) of stuff that is frequently read in small chunks (hdds are quick at sequential but slow at random)
[13:13] <plugwash> but i'm not aware of any easy way to do that on linux
[13:13] <eventyret> violinappren: http://pastebin.org/402629
[13:13] <gwern> aeon-ltd: like I care? flash can take a lot of r/w, there's wear-leveling, and if the card dies in a few years, I just shrug and trash it
[13:13] <violinappren> eventyret: try using ONLY step 2 alone (the blacklisting steps)
[13:13] <violinappren> eventyret: and reboot
[13:14] <eventyret> violinappren: ok
[13:14] <Cyberkilla> gwern: I can't imagine it having any real benefit. I've tried ReadyBoost myself on a few computers, and noticed no improvement.
[13:14] <aeon-ltd> Cyberkilla: when usb3 becomes standard it might improve
[13:15] <Cyberkilla> gwern: I think it's a case of looking at the wrong bottleneck. There is probably something else you can do to your computer that would have a much more noticable benefit.
[13:15] <gwern> probably. the fglrx driver seems to have terrible 2d performance, for exampel
[13:15] <eventyret> violinappren: be right back rebooting
[13:15]  * violinappren recalls reading something about using display card memory for swap 
[13:15] <aeon-ltd> it may sound arrogant but the problem is always the software, the only problem hardware has is efficiency
[13:16] <gwern> (really, what is up with the slow window draws/switches? I swap and it takes like half a second to finish displaying the new window)
[13:16] <Cyberkilla> aeon-ltd: Probably :-)
[13:16] <aeon-ltd> gwern: what gpu, and are you compositing?
[13:16] <tarzeau> aeon-ltd: i agree. and linux is not one of the most efficient
[13:16] <tarzeau> the most efficient software so far i've seen was openstep (a product of NeXT)
[13:17] <aeon-ltd> tarzeau: it can be, but not with X
[13:17] <tarzeau> aeon-ltd: definitely
[13:17] <StaRetji> Folks, is there a way to force wifi ad-hoc to always stay on. I mean, I created ad-hoc in Ubuntu Lucid, using network-manager but if I do not connect my iphone to it in few seconds, ad-hoc network dissapears. Thx for the tips!
[13:17] <Cyberkilla> gwern: You're better off with compositing disabled, in my experience.
[13:17] <aeon-ltd> tarzeau: if only framebuffers could completely replace the need for xorg and drivers
[13:17] <Cyberkilla> gwern: Especially metacity's compositor - the ALT+TAB has a terrible delay while it loads the little thumbnails of open windows.
[13:17] <gwern> aeon-ltd: no compositing (running xmonad) and the card is ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 1G
[13:17] <tarzeau> aeon-ltd: linux framebuffer is horribly slow
[13:18] <gwern> aeon-ltd: it's not a bad card, and my older computers were much faster with nvidia cards. so I blame the driver
[13:18] <oCean_> aeon-ltd: tarzeau: move discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[13:18] <aeon-ltd> gwern: problem solved. ati support for linux is essentially near crap, its only recently they provided open source drivers
[13:18] <aeon-ltd> oCean_: sorry
[13:18] <Daekdroom> gwern, if you're using the fglrx driver, he's known for not being that fast when it comes 2D..
[13:18] <gwern> aeon-ltd: well, that's why I blame the driver...
[13:18] <Cyberkilla> gwern: That's a tiling window manager, isn't it?
[13:18] <gwern> Cyberkilla: sure is
[13:19] <aeon-ltd> gwern: have you tried experimenting with kms?
[13:19] <Cyberkilla> gwern: Very nice. I've always wanted to switch to something like that, but I can't get used to it:)
[13:19] <gwern> aeon-ltd: with what?
[13:19] <Eventyret> violinappren: seems it worked, it started with no problems now! <3
[13:19] <Cyberkilla> gwern: Kernel Mode Setting, I think he means.
[13:20] <aeon-ltd> gwern: kernel mode setting its a new feature but its cause more problems for some
[13:20] <gwern> Cyberkilla: they are something of an adjustment, it is true. kind of like adjusting from GUI to CLI or from a word processor to emacs
[13:20] <gwern> aeon-ltd: I'll look into that I guess
[13:21] <Eventyret> violinappren: is there a way to clean up the xorg config files and such and logs ?
[13:21] <violinappren> Eventyret: well done. don't worry about the logs
[13:22] <aeon-ltd> Cyberkilla: tiling WMs really force you to use 2 hands and it really does speed up over openbox click menu or gnome's menubar
[13:22] <Cyberkilla> gwern: If it wasn't for Chromium, I would never have to use a mouse on this computer. Firefox is a bit better, because you can press ' and jump to the URLs on a page.
[13:22] <urzk> hi. i have a question - want to install ubuntu netbook remix - what DE does it use?
[13:22] <gwern> aeon-ltd: only if the keybindings are set up for that. I do just fine with one hand with xmonad
[13:23] <grifo74> hello i install vmware with appruner how can i wnistall now, i dont see in synaptic??
[13:23] <aeon-ltd> gwern: same here when i'm feeling lazy on dwm
[13:23] <gwern> Cyberkilla: well, the hardcore would just use a version of firefox like vimperator or conkeror
[13:23] <Cyberkilla> urzk: I think that'll be GNOME
[13:24] <urzk> Cyberkilla: mmm i am not sure about that
[13:24] <violinappren> grifo74: where did you install it? it comes with an uninstall.pl
[13:24] <aeon-ltd> urzk: it has a second layer over ut
[13:24] <aeon-ltd> *it
[13:24] <gwern> 'Kernel mode-setting (KMS) shifts responsibility for selecting and setting up the graphics mode from X.org to the kernel. When X.org is started, it then detects and uses the mode without any further mode changes. This promises to make booting faster, more graphical, and less flickery. ' <-- oh the irony. the wheel turns, and what was once will be again...
[13:24] <Cyberkilla> gwern: I'll have to look into those. I don't think I've ever tried them:)
[13:24] <urzk> aeon-ltd: didn't understand about the second layer
[13:25] <Cyberkilla> urzk: Netbook Remix is GNOME, with some Ubuntu extras. It is still GNOME though, as far as I know.
[13:25] <aeon-ltd> urzk: what you see is a menu over gnome, so its easier to use with the trackpad size of a netbook but personally tiling window managers would work better given that keyboards are around 80-90% reg size
[13:26] <Eventyret> ok thanks violinappren
[13:26] <gwern> a number of xmonaders are very happy with xmonad on their netbooks/OLPCs
[13:26] <aeon-ltd> whilst trackpads are shrunk
[13:26] <oCean_> gwern: stop the offtopic talk please. Feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic for such discussions
[13:26] <violinappren> Eventyret: you're welcome
[13:26] <urzk> Cyberkilla: oh, i see. but not sure if it would work fast on my old eepc 900 (i havent installed it yet)
[13:26] <aeon-ltd> oCean_: he/she is just reccommending better solutions not random speculation
[13:27] <sanguisdex> I am in the middle of filling out a long PDF from is there a way to save my progress and continue latter?
[13:27] <aeon-ltd> urzk: have you ever tiled before
[13:27] <urzk> aeon-ltd: no
[13:27] <select> hola
[13:27] <violinappren> sanguisdex: no "save" options?
[13:27] <select> sabeis español ?
[13:27] <violinappren> !es | select
[13:27] <urzk> aeon-ltd: what is tiling?
[13:28] <select> Gracias
[13:28] <froschi> aeon-ltd: what has tiling to do with keyboard size?
[13:28] <violinappren> urzk: google
[13:28] <urzk> violinappren: ok, i will
[13:28] <aeon-ltd> urzk: the window manager basically manages the windows for you, e.g open a window - its full screen, open another windows the screen divides to accommandate the new window
[13:29] <aeon-ltd> froschi: keyboard shortcuts
[13:29] <aeon-ltd> urzk: try unr if its too slow shift to something like openbox
[13:29] <Cyberkilla> urzk: I wish I could help you with that, but I've never used it before :-( I'd imagine it would be reasonably competent, since it's supposed to work on netbook hardware.
[13:31] <aeon-ltd> urzk: this is tiling http://omploader.org/vNHlxaA and this http://omploader.org/vNHhyYw/openboxatfirst.png
[13:31] <froschi> aeon-ltd: uhu, you dont like windows because you need a mouse, so on systems, where there is not a usable keyboard, you suggest using a wm that uses the keyboard excessively?
[13:31] <urzk> aeon-ltd: ok, i'll install and see how it works. if ok - then great since i'm familiar with gnome much more then with openbox (which i have right now on mint netbook edition with lxde and openbox - works fast but i'm not quite happy with the menu and interface). thanks for help.
[13:31] <ysis> Hi. Im using Xubuntu 10.04 on a x86 laptop and have problems with my USB mouse/keyboard stopping to work randomly. "lsusb" doesn't update anymore, i.e. if I pull the plug for the mouse/keyboard it's still listed. I already tried "sudo restart udev" but this doesn't seem to have an effect. Any ideas how to proceed?
[13:32] <aeon-ltd> froschi: no, but managing windows with a tiny trackpad rather than the os doing it for you is ridiculous. you will still need the trackpad for scrolling etc
[13:32] <Kuja_> Is there an easy, zero config method of clustering ubuntu machines together for increased performance?
[13:32] <violinappren> ysis: can't get any output from lsusb? if you can, pastebin it
[13:32] <froschi> aeon-ltd: oki, i just don't understand 'tiling window managers would work better  given that
[13:32] <froschi> '
[13:32] <aeon-ltd> urzk: great thing about linux, you can change anything you don't like :)
[13:33] <ysis> violinappren: Plain "lsusb" or any options?
[13:33] <violinappren> ysis: plain
[13:33] <violinappren> !hardware | ysis, also check ->
[13:33] <Cyberkilla> aeon-ltd: Very nice. It actually looks similar to the theme I have in metacity (ThinMC), though I'm not tiled atm.
[13:34] <havoc_> morning all!
[13:34] <aeon-ltd> Cyberkilla: its not my desktop lol :)
[13:34] <violinappren> !welcome | havoc_
[13:34] <ysis> violinappren: http://pastebin.com/J3WPWBwG here you go.
[13:34] <Cyberkilla> aeon-ltd: Oh :-P
[13:34] <havoc_> any old school network programmers on this morning ?
[13:34] <violinappren> !anyone | havoc_
[13:34] <Kuja_> PsyTrance joined the room. Kuja_Is there an easy, zero config method of clustering ubuntu machines together for increased performance?
[13:34] <nexus6__> how can i get back to my home directory when i crused around in the shell with cd ?
[13:35] <havoc_> lol
[13:35] <oCean_> nexus6__: type single "cd"
[13:35] <nexus6__> ahh awesome thanks
[13:35]  * Cyberkilla will be right back.
[13:35] <aeon-ltd> mehhhhhhhhhhh
[13:35] <MonsieurSalhi> salut
[13:35] <havoc_> ok, here's the "real" question: I need to know how to use the telnet protocol commands to tell a client to mask it's local echo - for password entry
[13:36] <violinappren> ysis: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/peripherals-hardware/141603-logitech-ex-100-mouse-keyboard-stops-working.html
[13:36] <Kuja_> Lol n00p has attempted to join 10+ times now
[13:37] <oCean_> Kuja_: nevermind, just stay on topic
[13:37] <MonsieurSalhi> hello
[13:37] <violinappren> havoc_: i think that depends on the application responding on telnet (to mask specific a input)
[13:37] <violinappren> !hi | MonsieurSalhi
[13:38] <MonsieurSalhi> thank you all
[13:38] <Kuja_> Rightoh will ask a third time, is there any easy, zero config method of clustering ubuntu machines together to share the resourses?
[13:38] <froschi> havoc_: if you *have* an establishe connection, this has nothin to do with telnet anymore. i you*are* establishing the connection, every sane client application masks it, you have nothing to do with it.
[13:39] <oCean_> Kuja_: have some patience. No need to repeat that quickly
[13:39] <froschi> havoc_: while, well, this still isn't an ubuntu related thing at all
[13:39] <Laban> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.04 via network. I've PXE booted the installation, but when I enter my own mirror it says it cannot find a file on the mirror. Doesn't say what though and no 404's on the httpd. I rad somewhere that I should just mount the desktop iso in a web accessible folder and that's what I've done.
[13:39] <havoc_> violinappren: ty for the response, but all standardized telnet clients respond to the protocol commands, they are just very confusing and I was hoping someone might be more familiar with them
[13:40] <solkig> Hi! I'm using ubuntu lucid and i just started to have a "problem" with my screensaver, every time it appears i have to move the mouse twice..first time it just flickers and then the screensaver appears again. anyone no why this happens?
[13:40] <violinappren> havoc_: i don't mean the client, i mean on server-side, the daemon listening on telnet
[13:40] <havoc_> violinappren: ah
[13:40] <Jigal> hello after update to 10.04 TLS system doesn't start up anymore
[13:40] <violinappren> !grub | Jigal
[13:40] <piov> i have some rules in my rc.local file that need to run everytime i restart networking. where can i put these rules so that they are restarted with the networking?
[13:40] <havoc_> ok well, sorry for questioning off topic, i'll find a channel that better fits my topic - ty all :)
[13:41] <ysis> violinappren: There's no solution at the forum thread you posted. Is there a way to force the usb subsystem to reload and scan all the devices?
[13:41] <violinappren> havoc_: some daemons don't require password authentication at all
[13:41] <ayunii> ai
[13:41] <violinappren> ysis: there's a solution, second post
[13:41] <violinappren> !hi | ayunii
[13:42] <ysis> I don't have a xorg.conf file and even the poster said, that the problem reoccured even after his/her change.
[13:43] <violinappren> ysis: s/he said the mouse doesn't hang any longer. and to generate an xorg.conf, switch to run level 3 and run Xorg -configure
[13:45] <mirko_> hi
[13:45] <violinappren> ysis: https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q="046d:c517"+stops
[13:45] <ayunii> anyone from indonesia?
[13:45] <mirko_> c'è qualche italianoooooooo???
[13:45] <violinappren> !id | ayunii
[13:45] <violinappren> !it | mirko_
[13:48] <piov> i have some rules in my rc.local file that need to run everytime i restart networking. where can i put these rules so that they are restarted with the networking?
[13:49] <ysis> violinappren: I read "I tried a stress test and didn't ever get the mouse to hang. I decided to wait it out before posting the solution, and much to my chagrin the mouse stopped again today (again, when the processor load was high)." which means that the problem wasn't solved or not? I didn't search for the product ID of the mouse/keyboard because I get the same problem with another USB keyboard, too. It would be nice to have a way to restart/reloa
[13:49] <NCS_One> hi
[13:49] <violinappren> piov: man interfaces
[13:49] <violinappren> !hi | NCS_One
[13:49] <airtonix> does xrandr allow me to query possible screen resolution sizes with python ?
[13:50] <NCS_One> when trying to watch .mkv files the video is slow, like some delay, what codecs do I need ?
[13:50] <violinappren> ysis: it means he stress-tested (used the mouse so heavily) and it didn't hang (like it used to be)
[13:50] <J11> i tried to run nam but i get  nam: invalid command name "tcl_findLibrary"  I tried to set different enviroment vars but no avail
[13:50] <violinappren> airtonix: ask in #python
[13:51] <violinappren> !codec | NCS_One
[13:51] <airtonix> violinappren, involves xrandr, which is something related to ubuntu
[13:51] <NCS_One> violinappren: thanks
[13:52] <violinappren> airtonix: check its man page for what it can offer, check python docs for how to execute system binaries
[13:52] <sam898889> apart from system 76 who else sells computers preinstalled with ubuntu 10.04?????????  (in the UK)
[13:52] <Sahan> i need help!!! to install my huawei u1280 phone modem
[13:52] <violinappren> !hardware | sam898889
[13:52] <Sahan> in ubuntu 10.04
[13:52] <violinappren> Sahan; read these links ^
[13:53] <Sahan> ok
[13:53] <Kuja_> sam898889: I believe dell sell some of their machines with ubuntu preinstalled
[13:55] <john38> I got no sound
[13:55] <violinappren> !sound | john38
[13:55] <ysis> violinappren: Sorry, I read "it stopped working again" as a non-working attempt to solve the problem. But thanks for digging out the information anyway! I'll try to force a usb rescan.
[13:55] <Laban> How do I set up a local mirror so I can install my machines faster than downloading via the web? I've mounted the iso in a web accessible directory but that's apparently not enough.
[13:56] <Kuja_> !gpu
[13:56] <john38> i check the Hardware tab nothing is there
[13:56] <violinappren> !repositories | Laban
[13:56] <john38> probably because i installed the Alsa source driver
[13:58] <violinappren> john38: try uninstalling; make uninstall, from the source directory you installed from
[13:58] <sam898889> kuja  yeah  i had a dell preinstalled last time. it was really good .  but i sold it cos its a desktop   now i need a new laptop. im just wondering, cos i dont want the hassle of refunding the windows license.
[13:59] <john38> no i did it from Ubuntu Software Center
[14:00] <violinappren> john38: what package did you install?
[14:00] <john38> something called ALSA driver sources
[14:00] <violinappren> john38: be specific
[14:00] <john38> after that nothing shows up in hardware tab now in preferences
[14:01] <john38> thats what its called
[14:01] <john38> ALSA driver sources-alsa-source
[14:01] <john38> from Ubuntu Software Center
[14:01] <stan2> @sam898889 I'm in the process of getting a windows refund for my sony notebook. Only have to sign a form and mail it back to them. Still got my warranty so no problem at all.
[14:01] <violinappren> john38: that package ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/alsa-source
[14:02] <john38> are we on same page
[14:02] <Gordon_Gwas> Does anyone know if you loose your warranty if you install Ubuntu in an HP laptop?
[14:02] <sevenseeker> last few boots (and now) my integrated empathy client won't let me set status, not sure what I updated package wise lately, but google-fu isn't turning anything up
[14:02] <john38> i do not use Software Sources
[14:02] <sevenseeker> even restarting client doesn't help
[14:02] <violinappren> john38: type in a terminal: apt-cache show alsa-source .. and pastebin it
[14:03] <violinappren> !pastebin > john38
[14:03] <violinappren> Gordon_Gwas: call them and ask?
[14:03] <Sahan> i need help!!! to install my huawei u1280 phone modem
[14:04] <violinappren> !details | Sahan
[14:04] <Gordon_Gwas> violinappren, office is closed today where I am. And my friend needs a functional OS
[14:04] <violinappren> !wubi | Gordon_Gwas
[14:05] <Gordon_Gwas> violinappren, thank you! the problem is that his windows have crashed and there were no recovery DVDs included when he bought the laptop
[14:05] <dreamer000> there are problems with huawei and ehci-hcd module with some usb2.0 chipsets. It disappears and will not be reloaded from time to time.that are the limitations.
[14:06] <Sahan> ok. im running ubuntu10.04. i have phone huawei u1280. i want to use it to connect to internet. but ubuntu does not recognize it's modem.Even icant find the modem in device manager.
[14:06] <sam898889> is there a gnome chatroom??????
[14:06] <sam898889> found it
[14:07] <john38> violenappren: i also tried installing proprietary driver im able to ./configure but when i get to make
[14:07] <dreamer000> i don't need usb_modeswitch anymore. Sahan, do you see it when running lsusb?
[14:07] <john38> it wont work
[14:09] <Sahan> what is lsusb ??
[14:10] <violinappren> !terminal | Sahan
[14:10] <CukeIsAMetalTool> hi all there's a way to hide, the black screen of messages before the splash screen on shutdown?
[14:11] <NCS_One> Sahan: open terminal -> write lsusb and press enter
[14:11] <violinappren> Sahan, open a terminal and type it there
[14:11] <CukeIsAMetalTool> it really bother me a lot to see those messages
[14:11] <glaucous> I'm having problems getting 96 KHz 24 bit FLAC files to play on Kubuntu, it's via SPDIF digital. All sounds work, but 96 KHz flac results in static (and some sort of music). The receiver says that it receives a 96 KHz signal at least.
[14:11] <Sahan> i'll try. thanks
[14:11] <stan2> the internal monitor of my notebook doesn't display anything after bios/grub with ubuntu 10.04. It does work with Windows. The backlight however does work in Linux. When I connect an external screen i can configure my internal monitor, using the 'Monitors' program, but the only thing i see when changing the resolution is the backlight turning off and on again.
[14:12] <john38> somebody help me?
[14:12] <CukeIsAMetalTool> any idea?
[14:13] <MaRk-I> stan2: you mean you only get a black screen after grub?
[14:13] <glaucous> What's the shortcut to show the Kubuntu menu?
[14:14] <glaucous>    
[14:14] <glaucous>  
[14:14] <glaucous>  
[14:14] <FloodBot2> glaucous: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:14] <glaucous>  
[14:14] <stan2> @Mark-I: yes, the screen turns black. When I connect an external monitor it automatically mirrors the internal screen, and does display everything as it should be. My internal monitor however stays black.
[14:14] <cd> HOHO
[14:15] <Laban> violinappren: I read through the repo docs and I don't think they are helping a whole lot (or I missed something).
[14:15] <cd> AMAZING WORLD
[14:15] <Laban> Server to install from is ArchLinux, so I can't create a mirror using apt.
[14:15] <MaRk-I> stan2: read this and do the "grub" instructions http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[14:15] <john38> are there any new updates that prevent you from installing proprietary drivers
[14:16] <violinappren> Laban: http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
[14:16] <glaucous> Very sorry about spamming ENTER there, was trying to Logout, my mouse was stuck when moving Widgets. Odd.
[14:16] <stan2> @MaRk-I: Thanks, will report back within a few minutes.
[14:17] <YY> Y
[14:18] <Laban> Alright so it wasn't as easy as just mounting the iso...
[14:18] <john38> are there any new updates that prevent you from installing proprietary drivers
[14:20] <john38> i think i messed up my system
[14:20] <john38> soudn
[14:20] <john38> sound
[14:22] <tensorpudding> Is it normal that whenever you add an untrusted ppa, the software center will refuse to install any more software?
[14:22] <CukeIsAMetalTool> is there a way to make the shutdown splash to kick in earlier? cause i hate to see the black screen of messages of shutdown
[14:23] <john38> this sucks
[14:24] <john38> you install the wrong program from software sources and system is messed up
[14:24] <IdleOne> tensorpudding: no that is not normal behavior
[14:25] <ngrt> Hi, i tried to install easycam2-gtk but that doesnt work... some people say the solution is to install easycam2-qt but i get a similar error message. "The following packages have unmet dependencies: easycam2-qt: Depends: easycam2-core but it is not going to be installed" I use Ubuntu 10.04. Does anybody have an idea?
[14:25] <violinappren> john38: stick to ubuntu supported packages and you'll be fine, proprietary software doesn't belong to gnu/linux
[14:25] <john38> i did stick with ubunut supported packages
[14:25] <john38> how many times do i have to say
[14:25] <john38> it
[14:26] <john38> ubuntu software center
[14:26] <IdleOne> john38: what did you install?
[14:26] <violinappren> john38: and i asked you what exactly did you install
[14:26] <john38> and i told you exactly
[14:26] <john38> ALSA driver Sources -also-sources
[14:27] <john38> that that
[14:27] <violinappren> john38: i gave you a link to the package to either verify or deny that you installed it
[14:27] <john38> ^^^^
[14:27] <john38> do you have to sign up for pastebin
[14:27] <john38> is it a forum
[14:27] <IdleOne> paste.ubuntu.com
[14:27] <violinappren> john38: that's not a package name , and you don't sign up
[14:27] <violinappren> !pastebin | john38
[14:28] <vBm> is there something like sublimetext for ubuntu ? ... (need something a bit more powerfull then gedit but less "bloated" ui then eclipse or so)
[14:28] <MattWB> !pastebinit
[14:28] <john38> ok its pasted
[14:29] <MattWB> !screenshots
[14:29] <john38> dude
[14:29] <tensorpudding> vBm: there are quite a number of editors with features in that range.
[14:29] <IdleOne> john38: url of the pastebin
[14:29] <john38> that is the package name
[14:29] <john38> ALSA driver Sources
[14:29] <pure_hate> vBm, vim
[14:29] <john38> http://paste.ubuntu.com/465462/
[14:29] <tensorpudding> vBm: you might consider geany, gvim, emacs
[14:30] <Gnome> Any 1 know how to get install World of Warcraft The Lich King?
[14:30] <tensorpudding> netbeans if you like java but don't like eclipse
[14:30] <vBm> tensorpudding and pure_hate, thanks lads
[14:31] <IdleOne> Gnome: try wine and #winehq
[14:31] <CukeIsAMetalTool> is there a way to make the shutdown splash to kick in earlier? cause i hate to see the black screen of messages of shutdown
[14:31] <john38> any ideas IdleOne
[14:32] <IdleOne> john38: no sorry. What made you install alsa-source?
[14:32] <john38> well..
[14:32] <tensorpudding> none of those are really a quid pro quo for sublime though
[14:32] <john38> i just installed Ubuntu
[14:33] <pshr> hello every one, My touch pad won't get detected the first time. I had to reboot atleast once to get it detected could any one hellp me on resolving this ? its quite annoying to start a system twice for it to get working
[14:33] <john38> the sound card was detected in hardware tab
[14:33] <pshr> and By the way I am using 10.04
[14:33] <john38> but i was getting no intro theme
[14:33] <pure_hate> vim can do every thing sublime text can and then some
[14:33] <john38> so i looked in software center
[14:34] <ubuntu> \ns identify krishmish
[14:34] <john38> i dont know why i installed alsa-source
[14:34] <john38> dumb move
[14:34] <john38> now nothing shows up in hardware tab
[14:34] <john38> just made things worse
[14:35] <john38> what do i do now
[14:35] <StaRetji> Folks, is it possible to upgrade from lucid to maverick, but without upgrading the kernel?
[14:35] <Daekdroom> !maverick | StaRetji
[14:36] <StaRetji> ok
[14:36] <pshr> hello every one, My touch pad won't get detected the first time. I had to reboot atleast once to get it detected could any one hellp me on resolving this ? its quite annoying to start a system twice for it to get working
[14:36] <pshr> and By the way I am using 10.04
[14:36] <violinappren> john38: i don't think it's the problem but try removing it, sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa-source
[14:36] <violinappren> john38: and reboot
[14:37] <krishmish> can someone help me install broadcom wireless dvrs on a dell 15r laptop
[14:37] <violinappren> !broadcom | krishmish
[14:37] <john38> Package alsa-source is not installed, so not removed
[14:38] <john38> i already removed it from software
[14:38] <IdleOne> john38: what does: apt-cache policy pulseaudio    give you
[14:38] <krishmish> violinappren: im not too gud with command line
[14:39] <violinappren> krishmish, the page explains what to do
[14:39] <john38> pastebin??
[14:39] <IdleOne> john38: does it show Installed?
[14:40] <violinappren> krishmish: if you're having trouble doing any of the steps, ask about it here
[14:40] <john38> http://paste.ubuntu.com/465465/
[14:40] <IdleOne> john38: you are running 10.10?
[14:41] <john38> 10.04
[14:41] <IdleOne> ok
[14:41] <IdleOne> !sound | john38
[14:41] <john38> now what
[14:42] <IdleOne> anything in the hardware tab?
[14:42] <john38> nothing
[14:42] <john38> thats the thing
[14:42] <john38> a month ago
[14:42] <john38> i installed ubuntu
[14:43] <john38> then i installed proprietary alsa drivers
[14:43] <john38> ./configure make make install
[14:43] <john38> worked perfectly
[14:43] <john38> this time around it wont
[14:43] <john38> do any of the updates prevent that
[14:44] <IdleOne> john38: it won't do what exactly?
[14:44] <tensorpudding> Okay, so I'll ask again, how do I get the software center to not choke when there is a single unauthenticated ppa in my sources.list?
[14:44] <john38> oh my god
[14:44] <john38> you guys need things to be spelted out
[14:44] <stan2> @MaRk-I: I tried to set xforcevesa. Saw some text scrolling for a few seconds and then the screen turned black again. Only the backlight is turned on.
[14:44] <IdleOne> john38: I am not trying to be difficult but me guessing what you mean exactly will take longer then you spelling it out
[14:45] <john38> dude im talking
[14:45] <john38> stay on track
[14:45] <john38> how should i say it
[14:45] <IdleOne> john38: check your attitude. I am trying to help you here. MY sound works perfectly.
[14:45] <MaRk-I> john38: stan2 what's you video card?
[14:46] <MaRk-I> oops wrong nick
[14:46] <MaRk-I> stan2: what's your video card?
[14:46] <john38> just assume that the fact the proprietary drivers not working now might reflect me installed updates
[14:46] <john38> you copich
[14:47] <john38> im not even a programmer and i understand
[14:47] <IdleOne> john38: super, have a great day then.
[14:47] <john38> lol
[14:47]  * IdleOne does not help people who understand
[14:47] <Sary> Researcher:
[14:48] <john38> what im saying is i understand what im saying
[14:48] <Misterio> IdleOne: heh ;P
[14:48] <stan2> @MaRk-I: It's the newest intel integrated graphics card, intel hd graphics
[14:48] <john38> i explained to you in lamens terms
[14:48] <MaRk-I> stan2: err read the link again, for intel is i915.modeset=0 or 1
[14:49] <john38> you understood when i said i tried to ./configure make make install
[14:49] <IdleOne> john38: and then you said it didn't work
[14:49] <IdleOne> at what point exactly did it not work? is it not compiling?
[14:49] <john38> then right!! after that i said do any of the updates prevent that
[14:50] <oCean_> john38: also: is there an error message?
[14:50] <john38> error message?
[14:50] <john38> no
[14:50] <terry> Why is there a red exclaimatory mark at the top right hand corner of the window?
[14:50] <oCean_> john38: What part does not work. The ./configure? How far does the ./configure get? What is its output?
[14:50] <john38> ok
[14:50] <IdleOne> john38: your sentences are just vague enough to make me have to ask wehat exactly you mean. Now if you want some help you are going to have to help us by answering our questions.
[14:51] <john38> oCean_
[14:51] <oCean_> john38: please try to keep it all in one single line okay?
[14:51] <john38> it ./configures but then it wont make
[14:51] <terry> Why is there a red exclaimatory mark at the top right hand corner of the window?
[14:52] <john38> should i pastebin oCean
[14:52] <terry> It does not update
[14:52] <oCean_> john38: sure, let us have a look
[14:53] <ttist25> Just a quick question - does anyone know if Ubuntu 10.04 natively supports the Broadcom wireless chipsets (specifically for Dell laptops)?  I had a heck of a time getting this Inspiron 1520's wireless up and running and I'm wondering how much time I'll need to allot when I upgrade.  Thanks!
[14:53] <terry> I am getting  error while updating
[14:54] <oCean_> terry: try to keep the description of your issue in one single line. Use pastebin for pasting error messages
[14:54] <IdleOne> terry: what error?
[14:54] <john38> oCean_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/465469/
[14:55] <terry> failed to upgrade repositories
[14:55] <terry> failed to upgrade repositories error
[14:55] <oCean_> john38: it seems that there is a missing command "patch" - it should be in /usr/bin. Try installing it "sudo apt-get install patch"
[14:56] <john38> what do i type exactly
[14:56] <oCean_> john38: read my line again. The part between the "quotes", not the quotes
[14:56] <john38> ok done
[14:56] <oCean_> john38: make clean, make ?
[14:57] <john38> woah rockin-n-rolin
[14:57] <oCean_> !yay | john38
[14:58] <stephenpl> !factoid
[14:59] <oCean_> john38: but to be honest.. there *was* an error message (patch not found). Next time, sharing error messages will speed up processing/solving your issue
[14:59] <john38> gotta wait till this finishes before i make install
[15:00] <bastidrazor> john38: look into using checkinstall ..it enables you to uninstall and allows apt-get to see what you've installed.
[15:00] <Zolomon> How can I verify if unzip managed to unzip every file?
[15:00] <john38> checkinstall?
[15:00] <bastidrazor> !checkinstall | john38
[15:01] <john38> holy cow
[15:01] <john38> you serious
[15:01] <john38> it creates deb
[15:02] <IdleOne> john38: which also means you can backup that .deb so that you can easily reinstall later if need to
[15:02] <stan2> @MaRk-I: Tried both. i915.modeset=1 does the same thing: black screen. i915.modeset=0 locks up the kernel.
[15:03] <MaRk-I> stan2: hhmm sorry i'm out of ideas then
[15:03] <john38> brb
[15:03] <stan2> MaRk-I: Ok, thanks for your help.
[15:04] <MaRk-I> yw
[15:06] <john38> back
[15:07] <john38> ok everything shows up in hardware
[15:07] <john38> and i got sound
[15:07] <john38> but i dont hear intro theme
[15:07] <john38> or any other OS sounds
[15:08] <stan2> @john38: check out the sound theme in the sound effects tab
[15:08] <john38> it is
[15:09] <diogo_79> hi
[15:14] <diogo_79> i have ubuntu 10.04 32 bits, but i am having a little trouble with the keyboard layout, the problem resides on the fact that i have two keyboard layouts, i have delete one of the layouts and apply system wide, but every time i shutdown or reboot the machine, the layout appears again, this is strange because i have delete the layout, what can i do?
[15:14] <metalgeek> Hi
[15:14] <metalgeek> Hi, could someone please remind a noob the terminal command for purging package remnants from my ubuntu box.
[15:14]  * metalgeek slaps back of own head
[15:15] <erUSUL> autoremove ?
[15:15] <diogo_79> apt-get --purge??
[15:15] <IdleOne> metalgeek: apt-get remove --purge package
[15:15] <metalgeek> So many to choose from lol
[15:15] <diogo_79> lol
[15:15] <IdleOne> metalgeek: depends what you mean exactly
[15:15] <diogo_79> Idleone is right
[15:16] <rkhshm> how do i get something like this working??
[15:16] <rkhshm>  sudo grep -Rl "Priority: required" * > required_file_list
[15:16] <metalgeek> General Spring Cleaning lol
[15:16] <rkhshm> i mean to say as ordinary user i cannot use the '>' to write a file
[15:16] <rkhshm> even with sudo
[15:16] <metalgeek> Why is lol keep appearing on the end of my post lol
[15:16] <erUSUL> rkhshm: why you eeed sudo ?
[15:17] <erUSUL> rkhshm: sudo grep -Rl "Priority: required" * | sudo tee required_file_list > /dev/null
[15:17] <iflema> MetaBot its either autoremove to remove redundant deps OR remove --purge when removing unwanted apps + configs lol
[15:17] <rkhshm> erUSUL: to get root privileges
[15:18] <VeeCount> hiall, has anyone set up a private cloud on a bunch of diskless nodes?
[15:19] <metalgeek> ifancho, Gottcha, Thanks. Whats that about +lol lol
[15:19] <erUSUL> rkhshm: that i understand ... but why you are storing that file in a privileged place ?
[15:19] <manco> any command to manually change gdm theme?
[15:21] <metalgeek> iflema, Gottcha, Thanks. Whats that about +lol lol
[15:21] <iflema> metalgeek nothing..... lol
[15:21] <metalgeek> iflema, It says autoremove: command not found
[15:21] <iflema> metalgeek apt-get autoremove =)
[15:21] <iflema> lol
[15:21] <metalgeek> iflema, :)
[15:22] <src23> sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-propertie
[15:22] <manco> tanx src23
[15:22] <src23> np
[15:23] <metalgeek> iflema, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 224 not upgraded.
[15:23] <kop> metalgeek, like it didn't download ?
[15:23] <iflema> metalgeek so.... no redundant dependencies.....
[15:23] <New001> hi all
[15:23] <manco> src23:it says protocol not specified
[15:24] <metalgeek> iflema, cool beans
[15:24] <IdleOne> metalgeek: "sudo apt-get safe-upgrade" is going to upgrade 224 packages. you will then be able to autoremove 224 cached .deb
[15:24] <iflema> metalgeek to delete unwanted package installers     sudo apt-get clean
[15:25] <New001> i have a small question....is ubuntu 64x ver. uses the full power of the proccessor if its dual core or core2due etc ?
[15:25] <src23> mm best u see this manual http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> New001:  it should. if the programs also make full use of the extra cores
[15:25] <aguitel> IdleOne, Invalid operation safe-upgrade
[15:26] <manco> src23:tanx once again
[15:26] <aguitel> IdleOne, Is aptitude safe-upgrade
[15:26] <kop> my test box jut asked for 456 upgrades (been away a month :)
[15:26] <IdleOne> aguitel: ahh yeah
[15:26] <src23> np i help but my english is low :(
[15:27] <metalgeek> IdleOne, is safeupgrade like the update manager gui?
[15:27]  * kop listens to the pitter patter of 10k scsi platters in the backround ...
[15:27] <manco> src23: seems pretty good to me
[15:27] <IdleOne> metalgeek: not sure what you mean but like aguitel said apt-get safe-upgrade is not a valid command
[15:27] <src23> jeje
[15:28] <metalgeek> IdleOne, Sorry, my fault, didn;t notice
[15:28] <kop> IdleOne, morning and have a happy pill or three on me :)
[15:28] <IdleOne> kop: Morning
[15:29] <VeeCount> IdleOne: aptitude safe-upgrade is a valid one
[15:30] <IdleOne> VeeCount: yup
[15:30] <manco> how to create a deb package from source code
[15:30] <erUSUL> !packaging | manco
[15:30] <metalgeek> IdleOne, I mean't is the update manager in ubuntu just a front end for the command
[15:30] <Ganymede> so i was looking for a hdd temperature gnome panel applet but none of them could find my hdd temperature. i have my own command that i can use to view the temperature so does anyone know a gnom applet that will run a command say every 10 seconds and show the output on the panel?
[15:30] <manco> tanx
[15:30] <IdleOne> metalgeek: yes
[15:31] <New001> i g2g now txh vm Dr_willis for help have a good day\night all
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> Ganymede:  you could set up conky to display output from a given command every so often
[15:31] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[15:31] <aguitel> Ganymede, what is this command?
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> Ganymede:  but thats not in the panel
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> Ganymede:  thers also conky configs that show the various temps of sensors.
[15:32] <thomas__> Hello
[15:32] <metalgeek> IdleOne, Cool then I havn't updated yet on purpose but will do very soon, When I have are they implying that i can use the autoremove afterwards to clean up?
[15:32] <Ganymede> aguitel: well i have written the command yet...it's probably something like "sudo smartctl -A /dev/sda | grep ^190 | cut ..." (yeah i'll need root)
[15:32] <ThomasB2k> What are some good font recommendations
[15:32] <ThomasB2k> Sans serif
[15:32] <ThomasB2k> ones that look good
[15:33] <Ganymede> Dr_Willis: thanks for the information but i'd like it in the panel...and i've also have had terrible experience with conky taking up like 10% of a celeron processor
[15:33] <ThomasB2k> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu on a different computer and I hate Sans
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> ThomasB2k:  thers dozens of fonts in the repos,
[15:33] <Ganymede> aguitel: i mean, i haven't written the command yet
[15:33] <ThomasB2k> Yes, but any really good looking ones?
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> ThomasB2k:  depends on what you are doing with the fontz.
[15:34] <Ganymede> ThomasB2k: that's extremely subjective, you'll have to just take a look and find one that you like
[15:34] <kop> ThomasB2k, there is a real need for a sarcasm font
[15:34] <Dr_Willis>  http://www.dafont.com/aurulent-sans.font
[15:34] <erUSUL> ThomasB2k: DejaVu; Liberation; Droid ?
[15:34] <ThomasB2k> ooh i like that
[15:34] <ThomasB2k> droid is good too
[15:34] <ThomasB2k> thanks
[15:34] <aguitel> Ganymede, ok
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> ThomasB2k:  http://embraceubuntu.com/2007/05/21/300-easily-installed-free-fonts-for-ubuntu/
[15:35] <ThomasB2k> i know that was a weird question
[15:35] <teemo> hi i just install ubuntu and im trying to get my wireless usb adapter to work, i have the cd with the drivers, and the drivers include linux drivers
[15:35] <kop> ThomasB2k, not really
[15:35] <manco> how to set ubuntu to use wi fi
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> The Official Ubuntu Font is being beta tested right now. :)
[15:35] <Archana_> Hi, i have latest pidgin on ubuntu 10.04.. My friend also has the same.. But we can't voice call each other on google account,  help
[15:35] <teemo> how do i actually install the drivers?
[15:35] <Archana_> !wifi | teemo
[15:36] <ThomasB2k> Lucida Grande is my favorite, it's hard to find a version that doesn't look all weird bolded. I'll have to get it from my friend.
[15:36] <manco> tanx
[15:36] <kop> teemo, is there a read me file on the CD ?
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> teemo:  most likely you dont use anything from the cd.  easiest way would be to set up a wired connection, and run the hardware-drivers tool in the system/admin menu. and let it download/install any needed drivers
[15:36] <erUSUL> teemo: what wifi chip ? « lsusb » should tell you
[15:36] <metalgeek> Thanks for the help all, See ya soon
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> ThomasB2k:  theres also --> http://delicious.com/popular/fonts
[15:37] <teemo> ill try that
[15:37] <Kronex> Help
[15:37] <Rewire> Does anybody know of a program that can be used to monitor multiple VNC clients in one unified window, a bit like this: http://images.apple.com/remotedesktop/images/remoteassisthero20090824.jpg
[15:37] <Kronex> Help
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> isent that how the gnome vnc client vinigre works?
[15:38] <unimatrix> does anyone know of a good cross-platform multiplayer tetris game?
[15:38] <oCean_> unimatrix: how is that an ubuntu issue?
[15:38] <manco> !dbus
[15:38] <David-T> tetrinet? if it still exists. but not really on topic for #ubuntu
[15:38] <kop> ThomasB2k, weird is when someone starts making sense in here :)
[15:39] <ThomasB2k> :D
[15:39] <Mavrik-> um guys, I have a lucid server system that refuses to boot for some reason. How can I get to grub menu to remove "quiet" options?
[15:39] <erUSUL> Mavrik-: press shift when booting
[15:39] <peta> hello everybody
[15:40] <Mavrik-> erUSUL, tried it and it ignores it... I just get blank screen
[15:40] <erUSUL> :(
[15:40] <kop> Mavrik-, PM
[15:40] <peta> does the Ubuntu Netbook version have Terminal/Shell and apt manager right out of the box or will i have to fix/hack something so that i can access them right from the GUI?
[15:43] <iflema> peta yes
[15:43] <saganbyte>  whenever I have both ubuntu and windows machines running.. the wireless access starts fluctuating
[15:43] <saganbyte> any ideas what could be causing this?
[15:43] <peta> iflema: yes that they're available from the GUI right out of the box? :)
[15:43] <iflema> peta yes
[15:43] <peta> iflema: yeehaa!
[15:44] <iflema> peta very little difference.... infact you can change between unr and standard at the login prompt (gdm)
[15:44]  * Axilus is away: I'm busy doing something... preferably women (gone at 18th Jul, 11:44:35)
[15:45] <rob__> Any linux Guru out there know much about pxe boot clonezilla
[15:45] <manco> where are the gdm themes stored??
[15:45] <oCean_> !afk > Axilus|Away
[15:46] <Axilus|Away> sry
[15:46] <oCean_> Axilus|Away: also: such away messages will not be tolerated here
[15:47] <Axilus|Away> my mistake, I know.
[15:47] <ThomasB2k> Woot, I just realized I can access the sexeh fonts I got from Adobe CS5 through the Windows filesystem
[15:48] <ThomasB2k> ugh, gotta find something that disables part and join messages only for this channel
[15:48] <unimatrix> oCean_ only reason i've asked here is because it's sunday and every other channel is pretty much dead :)
[15:48] <teemo> how can i get a device manager on ubuntu like on windows?
[15:49] <oCean_> unimatrix: that does not make it ontopic here. Please don't repeat.
[15:51] <Rewire> So is there an existing program that allows you to observe multiple vnc clients simultaniously?
[15:51] <coz_> teemo, not sure there is on exactly like that on windows
[15:51] <oCean_> !info gnome-device-manager | teemo
[15:52] <oCean_> teemo: but, I agree with coz_ : it's not same as on windows
[15:52] <BluesKaj> teemo,c heck your package manager for libgnome-device-manager0
[15:52] <oCean_> BluesKaj: that's just the libraries
[15:52] <nitstorm> guys this is urgent
[15:52] <nitstorm> i used shift+ deleted
[15:52] <coz_> teemo,  there could be several applications you can use along with gnome-device-manager
[15:52] <coz_> teemo,  one may be hardinfo
[15:53] <nitstorm> and deleted about 20 mb of data i need to recover it
[15:53] <coz_> teemo,  also if you open a terminal and type  sudo dmideode you will get much informations as well
[15:53] <oCean_> !undelete > nitstorm
[15:53] <leagris> hello, do you know a ppa repos for vp8 webm enabled ffmpeg?
[15:53] <oCean_> nitstorm: that would be a tough thing to do, but see the message from ubottu
[15:54] <BluesKaj> oCean_, oops yeah , copied and pasted the wrong properties
[15:54] <nitstorm> oCean_: its on a memory card though
[15:54] <leagris> !vp8>leagris
[15:54] <coz_> leagris,  I dont see a ppa  but I did find this   http://lardbucket.org/blog/archives/2010/05/19/vp8-webm-and-ffmpeg/
[15:54] <Beyecixramd> seems like my Stellarium installation is missing textures. How can i remove Stellarium and all the dependencies it auto installed COMPLETELY?
[15:54] <Beyecixramd> and then empty cache
[15:54] <coz_> leagris,  I cant guarantee that link  works or is safe to use
[15:54] <oCean_> BluesKaj: nvm, no harm done :)
[15:54] <kop> Mavrik-, PM
[15:54] <BluesKaj> teemo, what do you want the device manager to do ?..recognize hardware ?
[15:54] <oCean_> nitstorm: I really have no idea if there are recovery tools for that
[15:55] <coz_> leagris,    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[15:55] <nitstorm> oCean_ : i hit the key accidentally
[15:56] <yur15t> [need help! i'm newbie with ubuntu. thanks.] When i rebooted it, it said "error: unknown filesystem. grub rescue>", i booted via LiveCD and reinstalled grub like that: "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /mnt" and "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda". Now it's just blank dark screen and nothing happens. But when i press "Turn off" button on my laptop, there's UBUNTU shutdown screensaver.
[15:57] <leagris> coz_, thank you, working on it now
[15:57] <coz_> leagris,  no problem...let me know if that works well
[15:57] <oCean_> yur15t: when booting, hitting the <shift> key would show you text boot
[15:59] <ROMEO_> Guys whats the best way to install nvidia graphics driver for ubuntu, im new to ubuntu
[15:59] <edbian> ROMEO_, The best way is to search your card number in synaptic and see what packages come up.
[16:00] <edbian> ROMEO_, to see what drivers (kernel modules) your system is using look at the output of sudo lspci -k
[16:00] <ROMEO_> can i just enter a command on terminal?
[16:00] <ROMEO_> i have a geforce 8800gt
[16:01] <jeffmr> how do I mount a usb stick so unetbootin will recognize it?
[16:02] <jeffmr> I tried mount -a
[16:03] <Black_HorseX> hi here
[16:03] <jeffmr> hi
[16:04] <Black_HorseX> somebody know how to use iptables to forward traffic from a port to another ip address
[16:04] <jeffmr> you sound like ving rhames from mission impossible
[16:04] <teemo> BluesKaj, i wanna see a list of the devices on my system, see the ones not recognized and update drivers if necessary
[16:05] <yur15t> oCean_, it just showed grub menu. when i chose my operation system, same happened. blank screen
[16:05] <jeffmr> for storage fdisk -l
[16:05] <iaos> the  app center can't run   how to do
[16:06] <BluesKaj> teemo, did you nstall gnome-device-manager like oCean_ suggested ?
[16:06] <cheri703> any thoughts why, when I'm fairly sure I only have 1 cpu, ubuntu shows 2? also why with not much running, it would be using 90%+ of both? (according to system manager)
[16:06] <cheri703> *System Monitor
[16:06] <yur15t> oCean_, maybe something with my graphic driver? it came after i updated my ati driver
[16:06] <teemo> BluesKaj, i must have missed that comment, ill try that
[16:06] <erUSUL> Black_HorseX: --> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport <portnumber> -i eth1  -j DNAT --to <dest_ip>:<dest_port>
[16:07] <erUSUL> !iptables | Black_HorseX
[16:07] <mv79> cheri703: Hyperthreading? Do you have a intel P4?
[16:07] <cheri703> yes
[16:07] <cheri703> yes to p4, don't know what hyperthreading is
[16:07] <KeithChester> hi guys, dont want to take up much of the chat, but does anyone know offhand a good ubuntu compatible netbook with awesome battery life
[16:07] <KeithChester> ?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> teemo, turn your nick highlight in your irc client
[16:07] <Black_HorseX> erUSUL, I have already tried this
[16:08] <Black_HorseX> didn't work : /
[16:08] <mv79> That's a feature of P4, appears as two cpu..
[16:08] <oCean_> yur15t: could be. I don't know much about ati drivers.. It just seems the system is up (since hitting shutdown button does start shutdown sequence, right?) Feel free to repeat your question and see if someone can help you
[16:08] <cheri703> ok, thanks for explaining that. any idea on why it'd be using up ALL of it?
[16:08] <ManDay> Does anyone know why Option "ConstantDeceleration" "8.0" has no effect in xorg.conf but works well if executed with xinput?
[16:08] <cheri703> I had only vlc open earlier and it was showing 100% usage of "both" cpus\
[16:08] <yur15t> oCean_, thanks
[16:09] <oCean_> yur15t: sure. Hope you'll fix it :)
[16:09] <BluesKaj> yur15t, which ati card ?
[16:09] <teemo> BluesKaj, turn my nick highlight?
[16:10] <mv79> Had something like that with my old P4.. Found some explanation on ubuntu forums back then.. Don't remember now, sorry..
[16:10] <cheri703> k, np, thanks mv79
[16:10] <yur15t> BluesKaj, radeon HD5470 park XT 1GB DDR3 VRAM
[16:10] <mv79> Check the process which is taking up the cpu with top and look for the process on ubuntu forums..
[16:10] <BluesKaj> turn on your nick highlight , teemo , so when ppl address your nick it shows up in red in the text making it easy to spot
[16:11] <cheri703> other main issue I'm having with this computer is that if I try to restart, it will hang up on the motherboard screen and eventually give me a "no hard drives found" error or something. but if I switch it off manually (or shutdown fully) and then turn it back on, it starts up fine...anyone know how to fix this? or if it's something I just have to deal with
[16:12] <mv79> Sounds like HW issue..
[16:12] <cheri703> 9.10 would restart fine
[16:12] <cheri703> windows would restart fine
[16:12] <mv79> do 9.10 and windows start fine now?
[16:13] <cheri703> haven't tried reinstalling them, but had windows on it right before putting 10.04 on it
[16:13] <padhu> cheri703: your RAM or Mother board going to failure, if OS are working fine.
[16:13] <cheri703> :( kind of what I was fearing...
[16:14] <cheri703> I think it's the motherboard...it's OLD and has given me issues for quite some time
[16:14] <Axilus> Does anyone have any idea why I get random Hyper flood sync transport errors every so often
[16:14] <Axilus> I'm running 10.04 on and AMD processor... some people say that it's my Processor?
[16:15] <teemo> i wonder why something like the gnome-device-manager is not built in? Instead of making it something i have to search for
[16:16] <leagris> coz_, now building packages, corrected an issue with svn info Revision parsing due to localized output not matching a grep. Should prepends a LANG=C to solve this.
[16:16] <Archana_> I have "latest" pidgin installed from PPa.. But i can't make voice calls to another pidgin on ubuntu 10.04 with my pidgin. What must i do to make this work? Thanks in advance
[16:16] <teemo> what ubuntu irc clients are there?
[16:16] <cheri703> I use xchat
[16:16] <Axilus> xchat
[16:16] <Axilus> smuxi is new
[16:16] <erUSUL> !irc | teemo
[16:16] <Axilus> with some really cool features but I didn't like it much
[16:17] <Archana_> teemo, lostirc
[16:18] <mcl0vin> howdy
[16:18] <mcl0vin> when i do apt-get update i get "W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783"
[16:18] <erUSUL> !gpgerr
[16:18] <mcl0vin> how can i fix that
[16:19] <toomanymirrors> how do i get oss4 working? it keeps saying there is no /dev/mixer device but ossdetect is seeing the card just fine
[16:19] <nio> hello everyone
[16:20] <toomanymirrors> for some reason the alsa-oss pkg wants to reinstall pulse which is the problem and why i'm trying to get oss working
[16:20] <mcl0vin> thank you erUSUL
[16:20] <erUSUL> toomanymirrors: ubuntu uses alsa + pulse; we can not support oss4 here ( third party )
[16:21] <toomanymirrors> erUSUL, but pulseaudo crashes the system on the reg
[16:21] <nio> want to more about plymouth in ubuntu 10.04lts
[16:21] <teemo> empathy supports irc?
[16:21] <gogeta> teemo: barly
[16:21] <Archana_> teemo, Pidgin does
[16:21] <gogeta> teemo: no standerd irc commands supported
[16:22] <erUSUL> teemo: a dedicated irc client will allways be preferable imho
[16:22] <gogeta> erUSUL: pidgions irc support is good
[16:22] <toomanymirrors> erUSUL, keep getting the GLib-Warning: **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)
[16:23] <nova> can anyone answer a Devede/mencoder/mplayer question?
[16:23] <coz_> leagris,  ok cool thanks :)
[16:23] <erUSUL> toomanymirrors: sorry; never seen that error myself...
[16:23] <gogeta> nova: MENCODER IS FAST
[16:23] <gogeta> lol
[16:24] <nova> lol
[16:24] <toomanymirrors> erUSUL, it's widely discussed in forums and stuff
[16:24] <ManDay> Why are some things in /etc/ and some in /[usr/]lib ? For example the xorg conf - what is the point/idea behind that?
[16:24] <nova> well i guess im done here thanks
[16:24] <toomanymirrors> erUSUL, pulseaudio sucks
[16:24] <toomanymirrors> erUSUL, great idea but doesn't work
[16:24] <gogeta> nova: lol was that your question
[16:24] <erUSUL> toomanymirrors: what ca i say; pulse has worked for me allways
[16:24] <nova> j/k, so my dilemma is devede fails with the error that it cant find mencoder and mplayer
[16:24] <nova> but they are installed
[16:24] <nio> can i remove plymouth splash screen and use usplash in 10.04lts
[16:25] <toomanymirrors> erUSUL, can't figure why ubuntu would have pulse dependencies on a pkg called alsa-oss
[16:25] <teemo> ok im using chatzilla
[16:25] <gogeta> nova: maybe its newer then it supports and thinks it not there pretty common
[16:25] <nova> that;s what i was thinking but i reverted back to the version i was using about a week ago when it worked but it still won't start
[16:25] <gogeta> nova: avdumux is a good gui frontend
[16:25] <erUSUL> toomanymirrors: alsa-oss is the alsa oss emulation; you do not need that if you are going to use OSS all the way up
[16:26] <nova> is there anything else that can be causing this?
[16:26] <teemo> so i want to install gnome-device-manager, i cant find it on my machine, where can i download the right version from?
[16:26] <nova> i have avidemux and use it, but devede is just so much simpler and faster for me
[16:26] <gogeta> nova: ubuntu ues a diffrent lib location it cant find maybe
[16:27] <nova> well i check the location too and the location is still the same /usr/bin
[16:27] <gogeta> nova: thats something you would need to look up being i dont knoe that gui
[16:27] <nova> i'm probably just going to wait for a devede update, i have tried a couple of solutions unsuccesfully of course
[16:27] <nova> i just thought i'd come in here and ask see if anyone had anything else
[16:27] <iFrankZ> buenos días
[16:27] <gogeta> nova: to get the max speed i always just use mencoder via console
[16:28] <erUSUL> teemo: what do you need that program for ?
[16:28] <iFrankZ> Hi guys, someone know how to install Sony Vegas on Ubuntu?
[16:28] <nova> yeah i guess im stuck using the console for now
[16:28] <Axilus> tried wine?
[16:28] <teemo> i want to install drivers for my wireless usb adapter
[16:28] <gogeta> nova: and if you installed gmplayer i dont think the console mplayer get installed
[16:28] <erUSUL> teemo: which is ?
[16:28] <iFrankZ> I already tried with Wine (I'm using Ubuntu 10.04), well... I'll try again, I always get same error.
[16:29] <erUSUL> !appdb | iFrankZ
[16:29] <nova> yeah i had to manually install it
[16:29] <teemo> smc wireless usb 2.0 adapater EZ Connect N
[16:29] <BluesKaj> yur15t, I saw this patch for radeon HD5470 on launchpad , it may help you . https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/485444
[16:29] <erUSUL> teemo: « lsusb » should be better. or « sudo lshw -C Network »
[16:29] <teemo> the cd has linux drivers on it, but i dont know how to actually install them
[16:30] <erUSUL> !paste | teemo
[16:30] <gogeta> nova: may be where it whent wrong if you didnt use ubuntu uilds
[16:30] <gogeta> nova: some stuff could be located diffrently
[16:30] <ManDay> what is etc/rcS.d ?
[16:30] <erUSUL> teemo: i take that you alrady tried System>Admin...>Hardware Drivers
[16:30] <teemo> yes
[16:30] <nova> well i tried removing the medibuntu builds of mplayer, and reinstalling the ubuntu builds but it still won't find it
[16:30] <teemo> and i just tried lsusb
[16:31] <nova> is there anyway i can force devede to use a certain path?
[16:31] <gogeta> nova: edit its configs
[16:31] <teemo> printed a list of devices, then what?
[16:31] <joppan> help
[16:31] <gogeta> nova: or it may have that option in its settings
[16:31] <erUSUL> nova: maybe devede has a config panel for configuring where the binaries are ?
[16:31] <iFrankZ> What's the best video editor for Ubuntu 10.04? I try to use Open Movie Editor, Blender, but they doesn't works, same error
[16:31] <teemo> cant i just right click the device and say update drivers, or install from cd!
[16:32] <joppan> needed after improper shutodwn while using dual monitor and fine tuting the monitor applet setting ..after which am not presented wih GUi login screen GNOME
[16:32] <joppan> help
[16:32] <nova> well i have not found any, and when i start the app it only gives me the "cant open due to such error" screen
[16:32] <erUSUL> iFrankZ: cinelerra ?
[16:32] <nova> and it has no entries in gconf
[16:32] <gogeta> nova: then you need to edit it manuly
[16:32] <nova> i was afraid you were going to say that lol
[16:32] <gogeta> nova: or find a lucid build
[16:33] <nova> ooh i didnt think of that
[16:33] <nova> let me try that now
[16:33] <iFrankZ> Well I'm trying to install Sony Vegas, It will give me errors for sure but whatever, let's try, lol.
[16:33] <Axilus> cinelerra is REALLY buggy in my opinion
[16:34] <toomanymirrors> how do i get pulse to find my hardware?
[16:34] <iFrankZ> I tried cinelerra but has many bugs as Axilus said, it always gives errors.
[16:35] <kadu> hi
[16:35] <coz_> nova,  depends :)  what is the issue?
[16:35] <Axilus> iFrankZ, out of all that I've tried I would say that kdenlive is the best
[16:35] <kadu> hello
[16:35] <ManDay> At what place is Xinit called - shouldnt that be somewhere in rc.d ?
[16:35] <chrissharp123> !hi | kadu
[16:35] <teemo> so i unplugged then re-plugged my wireless adapter, i don't get any message new hardware device found
[16:35] <saji89> kadu, hi. What is your problem? :)
[16:35] <kadu> hi chrissharp
[16:35] <kadu> hi saji
[16:36] <gogeta> coz_: think hes off looking for a lucid deb
[16:36] <nova> well when i try to open the app it just shows the "cant find mencoder and mplayer" error
[16:36] <kadu> i am new here
[16:36] <kadu> i just want to know what do you have here?
[16:36] <iFrankZ> My father changed my Windows XP to a Linux and I'm so confused... I want to play games or make videos and all those important programs I used before are only made for Windows, what should I do, pfft...
[16:36] <oCean_> kadu: this is technical ubuntu support. For social chat: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:36] <saji89> !ubuntu >saji
[16:36] <kadu> thats good
[16:37] <Axilus> get wine and play on linux would be a start
[16:37] <saji89> !ubuntu >saji89
[16:37] <kadu> thank you guys
[16:37] <gogeta> iFrankZ: app wise linux has a version that does what you whant
[16:37] <gogeta> iFrankZ: games wine can handel most
[16:37] <leagris> coz_, got it working with ffmpeg thanks. Need to get hold an vlc vp8 enabled :)
[16:37] <kadu> when i have problem i will come here and ask you
[16:37] <kadu> see you
[16:37] <coz_> leagris,  ah ok
[16:37] <nova> well got a lucid build and it still doesnt work
[16:37] <saji89> kadu, See ya.
[16:37] <coz_> leagris,  I believe there is a vlc vp8 ppa
[16:38] <iFrankZ> I'm actually installing Sony Vegas with Wine, I hope it'd work now.
[16:38] <gogeta> iFrankZ: sounds like you got it figured out
[16:38] <metalgeek> Sorry guys, was it aptitude safe-upgrade at the cli
[16:38] <teemo> which version of adobe flash player should i install?
[16:39] <ManDay> At what place is Xinit called - shouldnt that be somewhere in rc.d ?
[16:39] <leagris> coz_, will look for that. Now encoding a big mpeg2 DVBrip into webm, -thread 8 on i7 920 gives 37FPS for the encoder.
[16:39] <gogeta> iFrankZ: just right click a windows .ecxe and slect open with wine launcher
[16:39] <gogeta> exe
[16:39] <Beyecixramd> what should i install to manage services and choose which ones to run at boot, etc?
[16:40] <coz_> leagris,  ooo ok  :)
[16:40] <erUSUL> ManDay: what are you trying to do ?
[16:40] <iFrankZ> Hmm... Does somebody know what do I have to do for repair this problem? I'm trying to use blender & open movie editor but I get this error:
[16:40] <erUSUL> Beyecixramd: bum ?
[16:40] <iFrankZ> Compiled with Python version 2.6.5.
[16:40] <iFrankZ> Checking for installed Python... got it!
[16:40] <iFrankZ> Segmentation fault
[16:40] <gogeta> iFrankZ: with wine 1.2 relesed so mutch stuff runs its a huge list
[16:40] <leagris> coz_, not that fast, but heh, its beta software.
[16:40] <Beyecixramd> erUSUL: yeah, i didn't know the package name, thanks :P
[16:40] <ManDay> erUSUL, I'm trying to figure out how Ubuntu goes about the upstart process. I want to place my own files there (where!?!)
[16:41] <BluesKaj> teemo , make sure all your sources are enabled in package manager like synaptic, including canonical partners and 3rd party software, then install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:41] <ManDay> i thought it simply steps through the runlevels and so i must find it in rc.d
[16:41] <erUSUL> ManDay: use /etc/init.d/ ( old sysV )
[16:41] <Light> hi, how can I change the read-only attribute??
[16:42] <ManDay> erUSUL, where is the new Upstart then?
[16:42] <monkey_dust> Light, use chmod
[16:42] <Guest39118> i tried
[16:42] <erUSUL> ManDay: /etc/init/
[16:42] <Guest39118> but gives nothing
[16:42] <ManDay> erUSUL, wow, very clever naming :-/
[16:42] <Light29> i do
[16:42] <erUSUL> ManDay: but writting a SyV init script is easier ( or there is way more docs about it) then a upstart job
[16:42] <Light29> chmod 777 folder_name
[16:43] <ManDay> erUSUL, can it be that hard, i just want to execute a single command
[16:43] <erUSUL> ManDay: then put that command in /etc/rc.local
[16:43] <erUSUL> ManDay: problem solved
[16:43] <Light29> Guys, can you help me with that?
[16:43] <ManDay> erUSUL, my head is turning from this mess
[16:43] <erUSUL> what error you get with chmod ?
[16:44] <Light29> I am trying to change my external disk from Read-Only
[16:44] <Light29> i dont get an error
[16:44] <Light29> it just dont work
[16:44] <erUSUL> ManDay: /etc/rc.local is runned at the end of the init process
[16:44] <ManDay> any drawing which depicts the upstart process and how the hundreds of different dirs are involved simply?
[16:44] <Light29> gives Read Only again
[16:44] <ManDay> erUSUL, good to know - what manpage tells me?
[16:45] <erUSUL> ManDay: the file is self documenting. read the commnets in it
[16:45] <ManDay> erUSUL, i know
[16:45] <ManDay> but there should be a documentation
[16:45] <ManDay> (which is not inline)
[16:46] <edbian> ManDay, In your opinion there should be documentation which is not inline.  I LOVE inline documentation.  I find it the easiest kind.
[16:46] <Light29> root@hispc:/media# chmod a+rwx Elements
[16:46] <Light29> chmod: changing permissions of `Elements': Read-only file system
[16:47] <darren> why i cant shot my ubuntu completely ?
[16:47] <erUSUL> Light29: what filesystem type is this ?
[16:47] <edbian> ManDay, Although I can see a situation (you're not at an Ubuntu machine) where it does fail.
[16:47] <kop> darren, lack of fully automatic weapon ?
[16:47] <Light29> fat32
[16:47] <darren> it just stops when the ubuntu log comes out when i shot it down .
[16:48] <CkhiKuzad> is there a net install for ubuntu 10.04, so i dont have to do all this crap with grub, trying to make an ISO boot from a  hard drive
[16:48] <erUSUL> Light29: paste « cat /proc/mounts »
[16:48] <erUSUL> !paste
[16:48] <edbian> darren, shot (past tense of shoot, you shoot a gun) shut (past tense of shut, to close)
[16:48] <darren> what is automatic weapon ? and what  need i to do to fix it ?
[16:48] <edbian> darren, you shut your computer down, not shot it down :)
[16:48] <teemo> how do i go the root?
[16:48] <darren> sut
[16:48] <darren> shut
[16:48] <darren> sorry
[16:48] <knxville> What is the command to see your ubuntu version?
[16:48] <ZykoticK9> Light29, FAT file systems do not understand unix/linux permission.  So chmod will always fail.  You need to research mounting FAT (i'm affraid I don't use any MS stuff, so I don't know)
[16:48] <erUSUL> !root | teemo
[16:48] <edbian> darren, No worries, you were very confusing for a second there :)
[16:49] <Light29> So, in order to change the permission I have to use MS stuff or to format the disk
[16:49] <Light29> ?
[16:49] <edbian> knxville, cat /etc/issue  ??
[16:49] <erUSUL> Light29: no you have to remount it with correct options
[16:50] <edbian> Light29, look up FAT32 in wikipedia or something.  I don't think it even supports permissions of any kind.
[16:50] <darren> it never shut down auto, i need to push the power button every time when i want to close my pc
[16:50] <ZykoticK9> knxville, the command is "lsb_release -a"
[16:50] <erUSUL> Light29: should have worked out of the box but something went wrong
[16:50] <Light29> When I was on debian
[16:50] <Light29> I had no issues with permissions
[16:50] <darren> thank you ,edbian
[16:50] <erUSUL> Light29: maybe the media has a hardware switch to make it read only ?
[16:51] <kop> CkhiKuzad, boot from ISO ? why not just burn the image ?
[16:51] <ManDay> edbian, I appreciate a certain amount of inline documentation but I deem it useless with a comprehensive documentation
[16:51] <Light29> lemme check
[16:51] <teemo> i would like to install qt
[16:51] <CkhiKuzad> kop, for one my cd drive doesnt have a burner, and second its broken.
[16:51] <teemo> and i cant find that either in the synaptic manager?
[16:51] <ManDay> imagine you would accidentally edit the config and loose the doumcneation
[16:51] <kop> CkhiKuzad, makes sense , had to ask
[16:52] <Light29> cannot find something
[16:52] <CkhiKuzad> its alright, kop. but i really need a netinstall for 10.04, i am getting sick of this impossible to install crap.
[16:52] <erUSUL> !install | CkhiKuzad
[16:53] <kop> CkhiKuzad, make a usb stick ?
[16:53] <CkhiKuzad> kop, think of any suggestion, assume it wont work.
[16:54] <teemo> how can i install qt on ubuntu, to be able to install skype?!
[16:54] <erUSUL> !skype | teemo
[16:54] <CkhiKuzad> because my computer's BIOS was made mere DAYS before they gave BIOSes usb support.
[16:54] <kop> CkhiKuzad, guessing the bios won't alow boot from usb
[16:54] <ManDay> erUSUL, which runlevel is X started at? 3, wasnt it?
[16:54] <tensorpudding> CkhiKuzad: there's always bios revisions?
[16:55] <erUSUL> ManDay: in ubuntu all runlevels are equal
[16:55] <erUSUL> !runlevel | ManDay
[16:56] <CkhiKuzad> tensorpudding, there are no bios upgrades for my system. phoenix award whatever-the-hell BIOS never released it for this chip
[16:56] <kop> erUSUL, in Lucid if you attempt /etc/init.d/networking restart it plays dumb and returns null
[16:56] <CkhiKuzad> and dont !language me. i am annoyed, and the frequency of my swear words is not any worse than a tv-PG L show.
[16:56] <erUSUL> kop: sudo start networkin
[16:57] <erUSUL> kop: it was ported over to upstart ... /etc/init/networking.conf
[16:57]  * erUSUL agrees that init system in ubuntu is currently a mess
[16:57] <kop> erUSUL, but doesn't work as an upstart
[16:58] <spiky> CkhiKuzad: dose this help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[16:58] <tensorpudding> system v init was an unfortunate idea in the first place
[16:58] <erUSUL> kop: ? what do you mean ?  « sudo start networking » does not work ?
[16:58]  * CkhiKuzad would hug spiky
[16:58] <CkhiKuzad> but i wont, i will just say thank you
[16:59] <spiky> I TRY
[16:59] <erUSUL> CkhiKuzad: i did !install to you five minutes ago --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[16:59] <kop> erUSUL, just an annoyance no more or less . some jobs have been converted and some jobs have been reported as converted but arn't and init.d works with some and not with others
[16:59] <erUSUL> kop: a mess, not my fault mind you
[17:00] <ameer> installing ubuntu for the first time, and evertime i boot i get a blank screen
[17:00] <padhu>  CkhiKuzad: see this, http://boot.kernel.org/
[17:00] <benni> Can anyone tell me how to convert MS Works spreadsheets to something that can be opened with OpenOffice?
[17:00] <rudy__> anybody could help me with xchat xdcc problem ?
[17:00] <kop> erUSUL, didn't think it was your fault . as long as I can stop and start eventually I don't mind hunting a bit :)
[17:00] <erUSUL> benni: openoffice should be able to open them
[17:00]  * Axilus is away: Away (Eating... or watching pr0n)
[17:00] <erUSUL> kop: /j #upstart
[17:01] <benni> I don't have a copy, erth64net, but a friend says they don't, asked him to send me one to play with - no reponse yet
[17:01] <pseud0cod3r> hello how can i change my mac address permanently ?
[17:02] <pseud0cod3r> i dont want to do hw ether every time login
[17:02] <CkhiKuzad> pseud0cod3r, your MAC address is stored in your ethernet card
[17:02] <kop> pseud0cod3r, change the nic
[17:02] <pseud0cod3r> i mean the one ubuntu uses
[17:02] <kop> pseud0cod3r, change the nic
[17:02] <ameer> im installing ubuntu for the first time and after i boot it goes to a blank screen, if anyone can help, i posted details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9604912#post9604912
[17:02] <benni> I guess I will have to wait for him to send me a sample file, thanks
[17:02] <kevdog> You can't permanently change the NIC --
[17:02] <kevdog> or MAC address associated with the NIC
[17:03] <pseud0cod3r> i know that
[17:03] <Beyecixramd> i want to play an audio file when i launch a program, how can i achieve this¿
[17:03] <benni> ameer, I'm looking
[17:03] <kevdog> MAC address spoofing is just that
[17:03] <Beyecixramd> a specific program
[17:03] <ManDay> all runlevels are equal? why are there separate runlevels then if they are all the same o_O ?
[17:03] <kop> pseud0cod3r, unless you change the nic
[17:03] <pseud0cod3r> but oses can use a mac address to start communicate
[17:03] <ManDay> @ erUSUL
[17:03] <pseud0cod3r> which can be changed
[17:03] <ameer> benni - thanks
[17:03] <erUSUL> ManDay: you can tweak them if you want them to be different
[17:03] <kevdog> ManDay:  All run levels are not equal
[17:04] <ManDay> erUSUL, but what runlevel am I in now?
[17:04] <ManDay> i can only be in one, eh
[17:04] <pseud0cod3r> and the network editor program is buggy
[17:04] <erUSUL> ManDay: but by default they are equal. in Redhat fedora suse they are by default different
[17:04] <erUSUL> ManDay: 2 is default runlevel
[17:04] <kevdog> They may be set to be equal by default but one is for GUI another for terminal
[17:04] <pseud0cod3r> it doesnt show onnected een if i am
[17:04] <ManDay> and if i go runlevel 3 nothing should happen?
[17:04] <benni> ameer, I have a PM open with you
[17:04] <kevdog> Ubuntu used to have different profiles for run levels back in the day
[17:05] <erUSUL> kevdog: one is for GUI another for terminal <<< that's in red hat or suse not in debian and its kin
[17:05] <pseud0cod3r> any solution to make ubuntu use a diferent mac?
[17:05] <kevdog> Doesn't Ubuntu use Upstart so does'nt the concept of runlevels really not apply -- I thought they kept run levels for backwards compatibiltiy
[17:06] <erUSUL> kevdog: Ubuntu used to have different profiles for run levels back in the day << not true; been using ubuntu since first public beta
[17:06] <kevdog> Im no expert in this assumption but I thought Ive heard this echoed before
[17:06] <kop> pseud0cod3r, someone ban your MAC Addy ? :)
[17:07] <pseud0cod3r> no our network is fucked up
[17:07] <pseud0cod3r> we have to register our mac
[17:07] <pseud0cod3r> to get connected
[17:07] <pseud0cod3r> so if you shift from one subnet to the other you have to register again lol
[17:08] <kop> pseud0cod3r, I got one of them phucxored netwerks here at home
[17:08] <kop> different problems same result
[17:08] <sinusoid> yo everyone
[17:08] <pseud0cod3r> so changing the interfaces file would do?
[17:08] <kop> sinusoid, yo yerself ...
[17:08] <sinusoid> heh
[17:09] <sinusoid> i am new around round these parts,  but it just hit me that I forgot irc is the best way to connect with ma linux folk
[17:09] <pseud0cod3r> jop?
[17:09] <pseud0cod3r> kop?any solutions
[17:09] <bashendsing> Does ubuntuzilla have an irc channel?
[17:10] <kop> pseud0cod3r, no idea I gave up and split it between the wireless and the wired side of the lap and was done with it . in essence I gave up and punted
[17:10] <sinusoid> anyone want to take a shot at what might be an easy question
[17:10] <pseud0cod3r> anyone else
[17:10] <kop> sinusoid, ask and be flogged in public
[17:11] <J11> when i try to open xsane as non-root, it says it can't open the scanner but it can as root, i made a /etc/udev/rules.d/65-raw-permissions.rules file but that didn't help
[17:11] <sinusoid> haha
[17:11] <pseud0cod3r> and why in earth the network applet doesnt show up?
[17:11] <gogeta> pseud0cod3r: it hates you?
[17:11] <pseud0cod3r> i have added the the notification applet
[17:12] <pseud0cod3r> but it doesnt show up with other items
[17:12] <gogeta> pseud0cod3r: if you installed something like wicd it gets removed
[17:12] <sinusoid> aight - trying to make a web log CSVd.... I cannot figure out what the hell the seperator character is...  In cat it comes as �, and in þ
[17:12] <pseud0cod3r> no wicd
[17:12] <kop> sinusoid, well ?
[17:13] <sinusoid> but running perl -p -i -e "s/�/,/g"  doesn't do anything
[17:13] <pseud0cod3r> gogeta can you tell me why it doesnt connect to network when it starts
[17:13] <BluesKaj> pseud0cod3r, alt+f2 , network-manager
[17:13] <pseud0cod3r> i have changed the mac address field in there
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> sinusoid:  perhaps try loading a log file into an editor that can show special characters like FTE. it may give a clue
[17:13] <sinusoid> my previous comment -- in vi it comes across as þ
[17:14] <gogeta> pseud0cod3r: normaly it whats your keyring password before it does unless you set it bank
[17:14] <gogeta> blank
[17:14] <amsri> Hello all This is the first time I am using IRC. Just having a look around. I love ubuntu and want to lean more.
[17:14] <sinusoid> yeah -- in gedit its the þ
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> !manual | amsri
[17:14] <spiky> pseud0cod3r: have a look at this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/how-to-change-mac-address-permanently-for-ubuntu-9-04-a-725769/
[17:15] <sinusoid> but i guess --- how would I perl replace the character if the cat command thinks it isn't there
[17:15] <pseud0cod3r> gogeta what do you mean?cant i make it  to connect to network with changed mac
[17:15] <sinusoid> perl -p -i -e "s/þ/,/g" doesn't work
[17:15] <gogeta> pseud0cod3r: depdonds on the network if it has mac filtering then no
[17:15] <pseud0cod3r> spiky i already knows those stuff
[17:15] <spiky> sorry
[17:16] <pseud0cod3r> yeah thats why i want to have it connect with changed mac
[17:16] <gogeta> pseud0cod3r: if it doesent then its just a matter of reconeccting
[17:16] <pseud0cod3r> i dont want to reconnect it every time
[17:17] <gogeta> pseud0cod3r: or go in and whitelist ubuntus mac and save alot of truble
[17:17] <sinusoid> i feel like there is a special character for ","
[17:17] <knxville> My laptop wont get an ip from the dhcp service, what to do?
[17:17] <knxville> its ethernet
[17:18] <gogeta> knxville: try dhclient eth0
[17:18] <m_tadeu> hi...i'm looking for a nice software app...what do you guys recomend?
[17:18] <BluesKaj> knxville, do you know your router/modem  IP , ping it
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> m_tadeu:  thats a little.. vague.
[17:18] <gogeta> knxville: ubuntu has a cupple chcp clients normaly at least one works
[17:19] <m_tadeu> Dr_Willis: some replacement for M$ Project
[17:19] <tensorpudding> there are no nice software apps
[17:19] <tensorpudding> none at all
[17:20] <J11> nevermind, had to chmod the ***.usb file
[17:20] <helloer> how i can chceck screen model name ?
[17:20] <tensorpudding> Look at the screen?
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> m_tadeu:  assme we dont know what different windows programs do. :) I definatluy have no idea what 'ms project' does.
[17:20] <BluesKaj> knxville, gogeta , dhclient will usually weork for a session , but has to be rerun unless the the network interfaces and hosts.allow are configured with the IPs , not always but mostly
[17:21] <knxville> gogeta, BluesKaj it worked, thanks :;)
[17:21] <helloer> tensorpudding, only samsung :D
[17:21] <sinusoid> yo any thougths on my question
[17:21] <sinusoid> asked it a while ago but i can redo
[17:21] <sinusoid> perl -p -i -e "s/þ/,/g" doesn't work
[17:21] <sinusoid> is there a special character for ","
[17:22] <sinusoid> hmmm
[17:22] <tensorpudding> maybe it can be escaped with \
[17:22] <sinusoid> yeah
[17:22] <sinusoid> i tried
[17:22] <m_tadeu> Dr_Willis: ok...some project management program that does resource management(time and cost), gantt charts, task management(priorities, documentation)
[17:23] <sinusoid> i just think i can't figure out if i am not matching the character properly
[17:23] <sinusoid> or if it is and it just isn't replacing it
[17:23] <cheater99> hi guys
[17:23] <terry> Is there any separation of drives in ubuntu like"C;D;E;f"?
[17:23] <sinusoid> perl doesn't seem to know what "þ" is
[17:23] <BluesKaj> knxville, here's good tutorial for keeping your pc connected with eth0 and network interfaces , if you're interested, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[17:23] <cheater99> how can i open a .cue/.flac album in rhythmbox?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> sinusoid:  or its some how taking a special conrol code/ascii ## and just printing it as that charcter.  Perhaps load the log into a hex editor and see what the ascii #'s are
[17:24] <sinusoid> hmmm
[17:24] <tensorpudding> perl should be unicode-aware, I would think
[17:24] <sinusoid> thats an idea
[17:24] <sinusoid> yeah -- its wierd
[17:24] <terry> Is there any separation of drives in ubuntu like"C;D;E;f"?like in windows
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> terry:  you 'mount' filesystmes to whatever location you want.
[17:24] <sinusoid> cat shows the file "11530526�32961940�2009-08-13 04:00:00��Random�8���0�h
[17:24] <sinusoid> "
[17:24] <ZykoticK9> terry, not really - you can mount drives anywhere on the root filesystem
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> terry:  so the answer to that is 'no' :)
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> !mount | terry
[17:25] <tensorpudding> terry: In Linuxes there is a single root, and all the other disk partitions appear as files under it, using a concept called mounting
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> terry:  most filesystems get mounted to some location under /media/
[17:25] <ManDay> Is there not a place I can put a command so it gets executed once X has started?
[17:25] <bashendsing> Does ubuntuzilla have an irc channel?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> bashendsing:  check the programs homepage ?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> bashendsing:  or just try #ubuntuzilla ?
[17:26] <bashendsing> Dr_Willis,  I tried #ubutnuzilla...I tried homepage but I can't find nothing.
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  depends on the window manager the user is starting/using and their desktop
[17:26] <tensorpudding> ManDay: check out Startup Applications
[17:26] <tensorpudding> under System -> Preferences
[17:26]  * Dr_Willis wonders what Ubuntuzilla even is.
[17:26] <terry> Can I install Windows XP side by side with ubuntu?
[17:26] <Zolomon> I can't install unrar
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> terry:  yes.
[17:27] <Zolomon> What's wrong? :(
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> !unrar | Zolomon
[17:27] <tensorpudding> you can install them on the same disk
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> Zolomon:  proberly using the programs wrong.. or dont have the proper tools installed
[17:27] <spiky> terry install windows 1st
[17:27] <tensorpudding> you can even use Wubi to install Ubuntu inside Windows
[17:27] <terry> Why?
[17:27] <terry> Why? spiky
[17:27] <tensorpudding> !wubi | terry
[17:27] <Zolomon> !info unrar-free
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> Zolomon:  and the command line you are using to extract an rar is what exactly?
[17:28] <spiky> terry will save alot of problems with grub
[17:28] <sinusoid> that's really fn wierd... there is no ascii character for the seperator... has a Hex of FE
[17:28] <sinusoid> but you can't search in perl for Hex values can you?
[17:28] <Zolomon> Dr_Willis: I don't have unrar installed, tried sudo apt-get install unrar, unrar-free worked.
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> FE = ascii 254 ? or am i off by a #
[17:28] <terry> Spiky:Can I pm u?
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> !info unrar-nonfree
[17:28] <sinusoid> its 254
[17:28] <sinusoid> Dr willis
[17:28] <spiky> terry k
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> Zolomon:  theres rar free and non free.. :)
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> sinusoid:  that is a weird ascii # to be using :)
[17:29] <terry> Spiky:Can I pm u?
[17:29] <sinusoid> its google ;)
[17:29] <terry> I didnt get u
[17:29] <sinusoid> assholes
[17:29] <spiky> terry yes
[17:29] <LuciusMare_> Hello, anybody got running GTA:SA on ubuntu?
[17:29] <amsri> quit
[17:29] <sinusoid> but the question becomes how do i find and replace it from the command line
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | LuciusMare_
[17:29] <tensorpudding> sinusoid: You can apparently use \uFFFF to match a unicode point
[17:29] <amsri> #quit
[17:29] <FlintWestWood> hi there, im having some trouble upgrading from karmic to lucid. The update doesnt show up in upgrade manager
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> sinusoid:  perl can proberly do it.. but i just dont recall how.. or SED
[17:30] <terry> Spiky;Check your pm
[17:30] <MichealH> rticle
[17:30] <MichealH> Ooops7
[17:30] <Zolomon> if there's a folder inside the .rar file, and I wish to unrary the contents inside that folder into another folder, what does the command line command look like? trying to read the man pages but it's a bit overwhelming. :(
[17:30] <LuciusMare_> Dr_Willis: I know, but it didn't help me
[17:30] <tensorpudding> so hooray, you get to look up unicode hexen
[17:31] <plevelant> Hello everyone
[17:31] <terry> Spiky;Check your pm!!!
[17:31] <spiky> terry hang on
[17:31] <plevelant> can anyone help me fix my mic in ubuntu 9.10
[17:31] <plevelant> dont know how to find what drivers i need and what not
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> LuciusMare_:  the wine forums, or #windhq channel. or check out that 'play on linux' tool - it can auto-tweak wine for specific games
[17:32] <glome> How can I disable the behaviour that compiz gets disabled when I open a fullscreen window that uses OpenGL?
[17:33] <Zolomon> unrar-free fails to extract, tried using sudo too.
[17:33] <FlintWestWood> !upgrade
[17:33] <teemo> im trying to browse, in terminal, to a mounted directory
[17:33] <plevelant> type cd
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> Zolomon:  dont just 'try sudo and hope things work'   sudo is for specific cases.
[17:33] <teemo> which i can see in the GUI, but i cant get to on the terminal
[17:33] <plevelant> cd Desktop
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> Zolomon:  whats the exact command line and error you are getting?
[17:33] <sinusoid> its evidently \x{FFFF}
[17:33] <sinusoid> but the unicode is the hex value?
[17:34] <Zolomon> Dr_Willis: "Extracting myArchive/folder/file.x Failed"
[17:34] <teemo> my Desktop folder is empty
[17:34] <plevelant> sudo isnt for loggin on as main or something?
[17:34] <justin_> anyone want to give me some assistance?  I was out of access to the internet for quite a while and someone had a livecd for 10.04 so i installed it on my pc, however it wasn't the alt cd so I am now triple booting win7, 10.04 and my previous jaunty
[17:34] <plevelant> you have to know your way around... most likely you are in the usr folder and have to go back with "cd .."
[17:34] <justin_> I got back and tried to update jaunty and it completely failed
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> Zolomon:  and you are using the unrar non free version? theres been cases ive seen where some rar 'versions' require newer versions of the rar/unrar tools.. or you can use winrar in wine
[17:35] <justin_> Is there any way i can recover all of my data and migrate it to 10.04?
[17:35] <teemo> it shows up on the left, under Desktop, File System, Network etc.
[17:35] <sinusoid> got it
[17:35] <Zolomon> Dr_Willis: I'm using the terminal, on a VPS.
[17:35] <plevelant> Anyone, I need help fixing my mic. Please.
[17:35] <sinusoid> code was perl -p -i -e "s/\x{FE}/\,/g"
[17:35] <teemo> there is a folder there that i want to access through terminal
[17:35] <VCoolio> teemo: check /media, also do 'mount' in a terminal to see what is mounted where
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> Zolomon:  you are using 'unrar' or 'unrar-free' ?
[17:36] <knightrage> hey guys. running karmic here. so i recently switched from an ATI video card to an nvidia and then back to the ATI one, and now all my GLX stuff isn't working anymore ("extension GLX missing on display :0.0" when running glxgears or glxinfo). i've changed the driver in my xorg.conf from nvidia to radeon, but it is still trying to look for nvidia things. xorg.0.log reports (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X
[17:36] <knightrage> driver not found). any idea?
[17:36] <zvacet> justin_download alternate CD and upgrade with it remove existing lucid before
[17:36] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, gdm - the script should fire before any user logs in - After X started!
[17:36] <plugwash> plevelant, sudo runs something as root so if you are having permission problems with a command it will most likely get arround them, OTOH it also makes it much easier to break stuff
[17:36] <plevelant> cCan someone point me to where i could maybe fix my microphone in 9.10
[17:37] <xander> prevelant: i guess you checked system:preference:sound to make sure mic isnt muted etc..etc..
[17:37] <plevelant> yepp installed kmixr and everything
[17:37] <plugwash> so just blindly retrying with sudo without understanding the cause of failures is generally a bad idea
[17:37] <teemo> its not in /media, and doesnt show up when i type mount
[17:37] <teemo> in the terminal
[17:37] <padhu> justin_: before doing these type of work, backup your important data. Try with live CD. if it is not useful, then use testdisk.
[17:37] <VCoolio> teemo: then it's not mounted, do that first
[17:38] <zvacet> padhu: you can not upgrade with live CD
[17:38] <xander> you sure it's not a mic issue and not hardware i.e. mic is broken ?
[17:38] <plevelant> dont really know what all i did but no progress, still need a driverscan or something.. {some1 help with mic!!}
[17:38] <justin_> padhu, yeah, i've already done it though.  I can mount the drive partitions, but they don't boot
[17:38] <teemo> VCoolio: it is, when i right click it it says unmount
[17:38] <plevelant> mics fine
[17:38] <plevelant> i finally got it once
[17:38] <plevelant> and it was like stuffled
[17:39] <wad> I got a new laptop two months ago. It's a Lenovo W510, quad core with hyperthreading, 1.73GHz, and 8GB of RAM. I put the 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04 on it. But it seems slow... I use IntelliJ a lot, and it's a cow! Would replacing the OS with the 32-bit version help, do you think?
[17:39] <plevelant> i think its cuz this one folder i used gedit on and changed something in or something
[17:39] <kielanmatt> hi all, my wireless connection works with a native linux driver, I use a netgear wn111 and I want to know the name of the driver linux is using
[17:39] <xander> prev:wish i could help more but i dont use mic and dont use KDE either search the net thats how i fix most of my problems
[17:39] <inkvizitor68sl> hi all
[17:39] <VCoolio> teemo: is it something you mounted over a network? you could check ~/.gvfs then, or 'sudo smbtree'
[17:39] <teemo> its a tar file
[17:39] <teemo> inside a cdrom
[17:39] <zvacet> !hi | inkvizitor68sl
[17:40] <teemo> i right clicked and said open witharchive mounter
[17:40] <inkvizitor68sl> how can i to protect /home/$USER (it is already encrypted) to prevent "sudo su $USER" and accessing $USER's home directory via this ?
[17:40] <plevelant> is there another channel where i could possible fix my sound??
[17:40] <kielanmatt> hi all, my wireless connection works with a native linux driver, I use a netgear wn111 and I want to know the name of the driver linux is using?
[17:40] <shiftingcontrol> bcrypt shows "Unable to open file New folder.tar.gz.bfe
[17:40] <shiftingcontrol> Segmentation fault"
[17:40] <plevelant> mic*
[17:40] <inkvizitor68sl> kielanmatt, sudo lshw
[17:40] <shiftingcontrol> i know right key still i ve the prob
[17:41] <padhu> zvacet: alternate CD
[17:41] <happyface> why does my client say #ubuntu(+CLcfjnt #ubuntu-*unregged* 5:10) when I am registered?
[17:41] <zvacet> padhu: yes,I agree with you
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> happyface:  thats a setting of the channel.   nothing on your end.
[17:41] <plevelant> okay my mic isnt working, can someone help me in a different chat room
[17:41] <xander> Prev:if it was me id do a google search for mic not working ubuntu version .... odds are some one else had same problem
[17:42] <teemo> i simply want to follow the instructions here:
[17:42] <teemo> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/help-installing-my-smc-ez-connect-wireless-usb-adapter-smc2662w-189514/
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> teemo:  you could copy the files to your home dir. and try the command line tools.
[17:42] <happyface> Dr_Willis: ok cool, so what channel setting is that (so I understand it)?
[17:42] <kielanmatt> inkvizitor68sl: well
[17:43] <kielanmatt> inkvizitor68sl: it outputs nothing to do with the driver
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> happyface:  if theres an 'attack' they can set Unreg'ed users to go to that channel instead of here.
[17:43] <bashendsing> Does someone here uses ubuntuzilla? I get an error when running sudo apt-get update and trying to install firefox..it says firefox is not found, why???
[17:43] <happyface> Dr_Willis: makes sense, thank you
[17:43] <ManDay> Is there not a place I can put a command so it gets executed once X has started (before user logs in)?
[17:43] <bashendsing> Am I the only one experiencing this?
[17:43] <miked595> I am only seeing 8 cpus when I cat /proc/cpuinfo. I have the i7-980 cpu with 6cores and 12 threads. shouldn't I see 12 cpus?
[17:44] <inkvizitor68sl> how can i to protect /home/$USER (it is already encrypted) to prevent "sudo su $USER" and accessing $USER's home directory via this ? *bump*
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  i think the GDM configs can run specific things when gdm starts up.
[17:44] <knightrage> HMMMM
[17:44] <yur15t> hey. i'm newbie. how can i get permissions to change textfile? i'm on livecd and the file is on a hard drive
[17:44] <miked595> inkvizitor68sl: make sure only truested users are in the admin group so they cant sudo
[17:44] <inkvizitor68sl> kielanmatt, configuration: driver=pcieport
[17:45] <inkvizitor68sl> kielanmatt, it appear for most hardware
[17:45] <inkvizitor68sl> miked595, it is not home PC.
[17:45] <inkvizitor68sl> miked595, and there are root with known for everyone password
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> yur15t:  you could use 'root' to alter the file with a text editor.  'gksudo gedit /path/to/the/file'
[17:45] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, ill check thanks
[17:45] <kielanmatt> inkvizitor68sl: where do i find confirguration: driver=pcieport
[17:46] <teemo> what does the following do: "less README"?
[17:46] <inkvizitor68sl> kielanmatt, look. for my network card from lshw:
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> teemo:  reads the file...
[17:46] <inkvizitor68sl> product: NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
[17:46] <inkvizitor68sl> configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=tg3 driverversion=3.102 duplex=full firmware=5751-v3.29a ip=192.168.10.222 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100MB/s
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> teemo:  or try 'more README'
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> teemo:  or try somecommandthatprintsoutalotofinfo | less
[17:46] <kielanmatt> inkvizitor68sl: configuration: broadcast=yes ip=192.168.0.102 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
[17:46] <miked595> inkvizitor68sl: dont you still need a pass-phrase to decrypt the data?
[17:47] <inkvizitor68sl> miked595, nope,/home/$USER decrypts when $USER logged in system...
[17:47] <bashendsing> How can you test to see if you have 32 bit or amd64 version of ubuntu? I have downloaded skype but it says wrong architecture i386 but I'm shure I have 32 bit version:|
[17:47] <miked595> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory inkvizitor68sl
[17:47] <kielanmatt> inkvizitor68sl: configuration: broadcast=yes ip=192.168.0.102 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
[17:47] <inkvizitor68sl> kielanmatt, looks strange, sorry. then i have no idea.
[17:48] <ZykoticK9> bashendsing, uname -m
[17:48] <Blackweb> Wondering if anyone could help me out, I've created a offline Installer Package DVD, To where I'd be able to get my linux system backup in the event I dont have the internet connected, and I went a head and tried reinstalling linux on another computer to see if it works which it does I have all my programs on, but then I got a message saying "about to execute /usr/share/apt-file/do-apt-file-update" which it then says you need root privilege
[17:48] <Blackweb> s then it starts downloading something. So I'm just wondering what has it done to where I'd be able to burn the stuff it download on to a disc
[17:48] <bashendsing> ZykoticK9,  Thanks..
[17:48] <teemo> ok, i really failed
[17:48] <bashendsing> ZykoticK9,  x86-64...this is 32 bit right?
[17:48] <pseud0cod3r> hello i wrote a few lines to change my macaddress in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/macchange file
[17:48] <ZykoticK9> bashendsing, thats 64
[17:49] <pseud0cod3r> but it doesnt do anything
[17:49] <Blackweb> and before it download the stuff the programs all worked fine so kinda lost on what the purpose of it was
[17:49] <bashendsing> ZykoticK9,  Ohh my god:|
[17:49] <bashendsing> ZykoticK9,  thanks
[17:49] <teemo> i dont know how to get my wireless usb adapter recognized on ubuntu, i dont know how to install the device manager so i cant even get info about what is going on
[17:49] <ZykoticK9> bashendsing, glad to help.  good luck.
[17:49] <teemo> can someone plzzzz point me to where to download the device manager
[17:49] <inkvizitor68sl> hm
[17:50] <bastidrazor> wow, that was a minor headache. fresh install of 10.04 to the desktop
[17:50] <di3go_> ms
[17:50] <pseud0cod3r> why doesnt it called or what run level it uses so that it cant change the mac address before the interface is up
[17:50] <xander> teemo : try lsusb command in terminal
[17:50] <miked595> I am only seeing 8 cpus when I cat /proc/cpuinfo. I have the i7-980 cpu with 6cores and 12 threads. shouldn't I see 12 cpus?
[17:50] <tonsofpcs> pastebin it, miked595 ?
[17:50] <Blackweb> does anyone know what this command is  usr/share/apt-file/do-apt-file-update
[17:51] <Blackweb> or does
[17:51] <bigberg> Can anyone help me? I need to make the memory stick pro reader on this VAIO laptop work. Googling has been to no avail :(
[17:51] <ZykoticK9> teemo, there is no "device manager" in linux.  running the command "lspci | grep net" in a terminal might show you the network cards the kernel sees.  good luck.
[17:51] <teemo> xander: then what?
[17:51] <tonsofpcs> bigberg: try a different kernel
[17:51] <xander> blackweb that just updates the apt repositores
[17:51] <yur15t> Dr_Willis, thanks. it works :)
[17:51] <inkvizitor68sl> miked595, what you are think about crypting all directory ?
[17:51] <pseud0cod3r> anyone ?
[17:51] <pseud0cod3r> !help
[17:51] <xander> blackweb its how ubuntu updates its self
[17:51] <inkvizitor68sl> *home directory?
[17:52] <bigberg> tonsofpcs: a different kernel? how can I do that?
[17:52] <miked595> tonsofpcs: http://pastebin.org/402842
[17:52] <Blackweb> xander: cause i created a offline installer DVD and installed a new copy of linux on another computer and the packages were all on it but then it had to do that command
[17:52] <bastidrazor> teemo: the package "gnome-device-manager" may be something similiar to what you're looking for
[17:52] <plevelant> atleast sound works
[17:52] <miked595> inkvizitor68sl: maybe make a private dir that has it's own encryption key that only you have the passphrase for
[17:52] <teemo> bastidrazor: where do i get that from
[17:52] <plevelant> blender ftw
[17:53] <bastidrazor> teemo: do you know how to use synaptic?
[17:53] <teemo> its not in that synaptic thing
[17:53] <Blackweb> so is it necessary for it do it. say if I had a offline computer and installed all my packages on it with my offline DVD
[17:53] <miked595> tonsofpcs: I also notice that cpu MHz shows 1600 but it's a 3.33GHz cpu
[17:53] <bastidrazor> teemo: i just pulled it up in synaptic myself.
[17:53] <Blackweb> cause it seemed like the packages/programs all worked
[17:53] <Beyecixramd> why are there LOADS of websites with the old ubuntu style?
[17:53] <Beyecixramd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScreensaverAsWallpaper
[17:54] <tonsofpcs> miked595: is this a laptop or desktop?
[17:54] <inkvizitor68sl> miked595, seems not secure enough way, but it can help.... /home/$USER can keeps non-permanent private files/dirs... but anyway - thanks.... will go for experiments)
[17:54] <StaRetji> folks, I've installed ubuntu on usb stick with live permanent storage, Now, everytime I reboot user ubuntu password changes, while root password remains as I've set it? Thx!
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> Beyecixramd:  lack of manpower?
[17:54] <teemo> bastidrazor: under what?
[17:54] <Beyecixramd> Dr_Willis: :C
[17:54] <tonsofpcs> bigberg: keep it in-channel
[17:54] <bastidrazor> teemo: i typed in the quick search 'device manager' and it has it listed.
[17:54] <xander> blackweb no u dont have to use it u can update for cd dvd etc or not at all
[17:54] <bigberg> tonsofpcs: alright
[17:54] <miked595> tonsofpcs: desktop
[17:55] <teemo> i dont have it?
[17:55] <StaRetji> so, what is default user ubuntu password
[17:55] <tonsofpcs> miked595: hmm... it is reporting 8 CPUs.  could your kernel or BIOS be limited to 8 somehow?
[17:55] <teemo> i get udev
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> StaRetji:  its blank
[17:55] <bastidrazor> !info gnome-device-manager
[17:55] <teemo> rule-based device node and kernel event manager
[17:55] <justin_> Has anyone had any luck working with wireless usb network adapters on 10.04?
[17:55] <ZykoticK9> bastidrazor, that gnome-device-manager looks promising, thanks!
[17:55] <StaRetji> Dr_Willis: but why is changed on each reboot, while root password remains
[17:56] <Blackweb> Alright Thanks, cause thats what i was concerned about, to where if i needed to grab what ever it did & Burn it to Dvd to have a offline computer up and going
[17:56] <nexus6__> is there a ubuntu issue with filezilla? i cant download 3 specific files on my webspace
[17:56] <Blackweb> Thanks xander
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> StaRetji:  changed to what? there is no root password by default unless you set one
[17:56] <tonsofpcs> note that those aren't sequential coreids either...
[17:56] <xander> welcome
[17:56] <teemo> bastidrazor: really its not there, where can i get it from?
[17:56] <StaRetji> Dr_Willis: I've set root password, sudo passwd root, did the same for user ubuntu
[17:56] <miked595> I was running the latest kernel in ubuntu 10.04 but it didn't identifay my 6GB of RAM. I install the PAE kernel and It sees all 6GB now. from uname -a: Linux sysops 2.6.32-23-generic-pae #37-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 11 09:26:55 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:56] <bastidrazor> ZykoticK9: heh, i have to leave for work.. could you please make sure teemo has the universe repo enabled.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> StaRetji:  the live cd even with a save file. may be gettingh intitaial settings from the cd. I rarely use ubuntu that way
[17:57] <StaRetji> Dr_Willis: with the difference, after reboot, root password is the one I've set, while ubuntu user password is blank
[17:57] <ZykoticK9> bastidrazor, teemo I'll give it a shot ;)
[17:57] <tonsofpcs> miked595: did the former kernel see all cores?
[17:57] <StaRetji> Dr_Willis: I see, well, thx for help man
[17:58] <miked595> tonsofpcs: No, it showed the same.
[17:58] <bastidrazor> ZykoticK9: thanks, my first guess would be apt-cache policy gnome-device-manager ..that'll give some good hints
[17:58] <teemo> universe repo enabled?
[17:58] <bastidrazor> i'm out!
[17:58] <ZykoticK9> teemo, what version of ubuntu are you using?  10.04?
[17:58] <tonsofpcs> miked595: weird.  Check for a BIOS update mayhaps?
[17:58] <teemo> well i just downloaded it today and installed it today
[17:58] <teemo> but its not secret that i dont know how to check the version
[17:59] <ZykoticK9> teemo, can you open a terminal and run "lsb_release -a"
[17:59] <meesebyte> If I want to install XP after unbuntu is already installed on a machine, what do I do?
[17:59] <miked595> tonsofpcs: the mobo t made for it but i'll check
[17:59] <meesebyte> ubuntu*
[17:59] <tonsofpcs> "t made" ?
[17:59] <teemo> 10.04
[17:59] <cheater99> hi tonsofpcs
[17:59] <tonsofpcs> meesebyte: ask on IRC and get told to look for a guide online :)
[17:59] <miked595> tonsofpcs: sorry typo.. the mobo is made
[17:59] <tonsofpcs> hi cheater99
[18:00] <tonsofpcs> miked595: that doesn't mean they had the right bios revvision on it on release
[18:00] <teemo> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS lucid
[18:01] <meesebyte> tonsofpcs: I come here for answers, if i dont get them, i decide to switch to google. I only have internet on my mobile device, so an answer here would be much better. Thanks for trying to be clever though.
[18:01] <cheater99> hey guys, since i upgraded to 10.04, synaptic is taking AGES when i select packages to install
[18:02] <cheater99> i click on a package, select it, then it goes gray and my cursor becomes a spinner.. for 10 minutes
[18:02] <cheater99> how can i fix this?
[18:02] <cheater99> it's amazingly slow
[18:02] <cheater99> it is not like this for all packages, but 95% of the time
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> meesebyte:  you will need to reload the grub boot loader after the xp inzstall.. XP will remove it.
[18:02] <miked595> tonsofpcs: this mobo supports two BIOS ROMS.. crazy.. alright off to flash new updates
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | meesebyte
[18:03] <chrissharp123> cheater99: have you tried changing your mirror?  System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[18:03] <cheater99> chrissharp123: will try that, thanks
[18:03] <cheater99> i think that might be it actually
[18:03] <meesebyte> Dr_Willis: Thanks! Do I start eMachines recovery when I stick in the xp disk?
[18:03] <meesebyte> That seems to be the only option
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> meesebyte:  that will restore windows.. nothing to do with linux...
[18:04] <meesebyte> I know.. Thanks
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> meesebyte:  it also may totally eraase teh linux setup.
[18:04] <ZykoticK9> teemo, sorry phone call.  in the terminal run "apt-cache policy gnome-device-manager" and see what it shows.
[18:04] <wizard_> home all I have my laptop hooked up to my TV, when I close the laptop lid it will knock the laptop off, is there anything that I can do to make it stay on when I close the lid and still display on the TV?
[18:05] <teemo> installed: none Version: none
[18:05] <ZykoticK9> teemo, also open System / Admin / Software Sources.  type password.  and verify the entry ending in (universe) is selected.
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> wizard_:  ive used the special laptop keys to  enable just the tv. OR use the power saver settings to controll what it does when the lid is shut.
[18:06] <teemo> it is
[18:06] <ZykoticK9> teemo, actually is everything selected?
[18:06] <teemo> source code is not
[18:06] <chrissharp123> wizard_: try going to System -> Preferences -> Power Management
[18:06] <ZykoticK9> teemo, that's fine.
[18:06] <ZykoticK9> teemo, in a terminal "sudo apt-get update"
[18:06] <wizard_> Dr_Willis, chrissharp123 I will try that now cheers :)
[18:07] <teemo> it failed to fetch stuff
[18:07] <ZykoticK9> teemo, do you have internet otherwise?
[18:07] <teemo> yes
[18:07] <teemo> everything is downloading fine
[18:07] <WangDang> can someone splain this line of code : fprintf_P(&lcd_stream, PSTR("Temperature: %.2f"), temp_avg)
[18:08] <WangDang> whats the %.2f shit
[18:08] <ZykoticK9> teemo, reopen Software Sources and try changing the mirror (Download from: dropdown)
[18:08] <defn> My arrow keys on my keyboard are broken. How can I change where I'm at in grub?
[18:08] <IdleOne> !language | WangDang
[18:08] <ZykoticK9> teemo, agree to reload after change
[18:08] <teemo> i just did to main server
[18:09] <itsnatesudz> Hi, I'm not sure if anybody will be able to help me as i'm new to ubuntu and linux. Also I'm fairly computer illiterate, I have managed to get world of warcraft installed and running through wine however after about 5 minutes of play it crashes and tells me it is a problem with the program or it is a problem with wine, anybody have any ideas for me? and plz don't tell me to get windows back i refuse to give MS any more money lol
[18:09] <ZykoticK9> teemo, try rerunning "sudo apg-get update" in terminal.
[18:09] <defn> Err I guess I should ask: Is there another way to select which OS I want to boot WITHOUT using the arrow keys? My arrow keys are broken. (Grub)
[18:09] <wizard_> nope still knocked the TV screen out also
[18:09] <ZykoticK9> teemo, is it only one that is failing.  or everything?
[18:10] <teemo> it worked this time
[18:10] <ZykoticK9> teemo, ok - you should probably update your system now!  might take a while though.  what was your origional issue again?  wireless?
[18:11] <teemo> yes
[18:11] <TGP1994> Hi everyone. I'm curious, when I have two network adapters, how can I bind apps like firefox, ping, and traceroute to the first one? I *only* want to use a certain application on the second interface.
[18:11] <ZykoticK9> teemo, check hardware drivers and see if your wireless is currently listed.
[18:11] <ZykoticK9> teemo, system / admin / hardware driver
[18:12] <io> ZykoticK9: Read the manual pages for each application using "man ping" as an example. "ping -I <interface>"
[18:12] <ZykoticK9> io, ?
[18:13] <teemo> ZykoticK9: im checking for updates now
[18:13] <teemo> even if it doesnt work right away, thanks for your help anyways
[18:13] <teemo> thanks a lot
[18:13] <franklin> ciao
[18:13] <io> TGP1994: Read the manual pages for each application using "man ping" as an example. "ping -I <interface>"
[18:13] <io> ZykoticK9: Sorry.
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> itsnatesudz:  check teh wine app database for potential problems and fixs theres also a newer version of wine comming out real soon.
[18:14] <TGP1994> io: Oh, so there's no system setting that can direct all traffic to one interface globally?
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | itsnatesudz
[18:14] <dodo2> mz kaffeine player needs demux plugin for watching TV. Which package do i need for that?
[18:14] <itsnatesudz> ty guys i will do that
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> dodo2:  watching tv from a tv tuner? or what exazctly
[18:15] <dodo2> yez, i have a dvb-s card
[18:15] <io> TGP1994: There probably is - I have never done it that way, I just specify a bind IP when configuring each application.
[18:15] <io> TGP1994: And I can't answer you with what that "probably is" actually is. :-)
[18:16] <dodo2> Dr_Willis, I was able to scan the satellite, got a lot of channels but can't watch them cause missing demux plugin
[18:16] <cesc_> hi all
[18:16] <TGP1994> io: Alright, well thank you anyways :) I'm just trying to setup LTSP, and although I'd preferably like to set it up on only one NIC, I can't figure out how to reconfigure it.
[18:17] <dodo2> Dr_Willis, ok, i installed "al_plugins" problem solved
[18:17] <dodo2> all
[18:17] <cesc_> I just made a scan with w_scan to get the channel list for my DVB-T card..... and at the end i got an error message saying ERROR: Sorry - i couldn't get any working frequency/transponder
[18:17] <cesc_>  Nothing to scan!! ... so I would like to know if ubuntu recognize my DVB-T card.. how to verify that?
[18:18] <franklin> ciao a tutti
[18:18] <cesc_> my DVB-T card is an AverMedia DVB-T super 007
[18:19] <cheater99> chrissharp123: i have noticed synaptic takes up all of my cpu when it's being slow.. so i think it's not an issue with connectivity to the package sources
[18:19] <jamil_1> TGP1994, this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200601
[18:20] <yur15t> need help! when i turn on my ubuntu it is in sleep mode. seems that this problem appeared after i installed proprietary ATI driver. Does anyone had same problem?
[18:20] <ZykoticK9> cesc_, you might want to try asking in the #ubuntu-mythtv channel as well.  I realize it's not directly connected, but they have a lot of experience with tv cards.  best of luck.
[18:20] <edhant> turitorial rc shutdown please
[18:20] <TGP1994> Ok, thank you jamil_1
[18:20] <cesc_> thanks ZykotickK9
[18:21] <io> edhant: Is that a question?
[18:21] <ZykoticK9> !tab > cesc_
[18:22] <dad3> whats a good linux mirc client?
[18:22] <ZykoticK9> dad3, mirc is a windows irc client ;)
[18:22] <linxeh> dad3: you mean irc
[18:22] <dad3> i mean irc client
[18:22] <linxeh> dad3: xchat, quassel
[18:22] <linxeh> dad3: irssi if you like text mode
[18:23] <Misterio> davidrussell: If you like cli irssi
[18:23] <Misterio> dad3: that was for you :P
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> I perfer weechat to irssi :)
[18:23] <dad3> howcome i cant see the user list and favorite channels in xchat?
[18:23] <davidrussell> Misterio: It was a nice welcome to the channel.... :)
[18:24] <dad3> ok i see users
[18:24] <Misterio> davidrussell: :-)
[18:24] <io> dad3: "sudo apt-get purge xchat-gnome && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade --show-upgraded && sudo apt-get install xchat"
[18:24] <io> dad3: You're using xchat-gnome and not Xchat.
[18:24] <ZykoticK9> dad3, use the view menu at the top.  or expand them with the mouse if they are quasi-minimized on the sides
[18:25] <jannik> how i come to german ubuntuchat?
[18:25] <xangua> io: why do you need to download updates to do that¿¿ :S
[18:25]  * scriptwarlock waves
[18:25] <xangua> !de | janisozaur
[18:26] <jannik> !de
[18:26] <jannik> #ubuntu-de
[18:26] <ZykoticK9> jannik, "/join #ubuntu-de"
[18:27] <asktoby> When I connect a PTP camera it automatically loads FSpot. How do I change this association to another app?
[18:27] <asktoby> (In the past I accidentally unticked "ask me every time")
[18:28] <xangua> asktoby: open nautilus> edit> preferencesxa
[18:28] <ZykoticK9> asktoby, if you are in Gnome.  in Nautilus - Edit / Preferences - Media tab
[18:28] <xangua> preferences*
[18:29] <asktoby> xangua: ZykoticK9: Thanks!
[18:30] <TGP1994> I have a question for everyone: Why does LTSP _need_ a DHCP server? My router already has a DHCP server, and I'd like to keep it that way.
[18:31] <henry_> hello?
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> TGP1994:  it may need one that is more custiomizeable/feature full - then the one on your router
[18:32] <henry_> alguien que me pueda ayudar?
[18:32] <TGP1994> Dr_Willis: I'm just concerned about conflicting here. So during a NetBoot, the client should be able to detect the workstation, through my router's DHCP server, right?
[18:32] <xangua> !es | henry_
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> TGP1994:  yes. but during a netboot. it may need more info then what the router dhcp can give. Ive not tried netbooting in ages.
[18:33] <Bogus8> What is the trick to getting my Ubuntu server to show up in windows networking (my network places)?
[18:33] <TGP1994> Dr_Willis: Hmm... it seems netbooting is the only way to go for a thin client...
[18:33] <Bogus8> I can get to it via IP address but not netBios name
[18:33] <henry_> Thanks, im new here
[18:33] <jannik> my internet dj console dosent connect with my shoutcastserver can someone here help me?
[18:34] <spiky_> Bogus8: you have to assign it in network hosts
[18:34] <Bogus8> spiky_: how do you mean?
[18:34] <henry_> Ubuntu-es is empty
[18:35] <henry_> Ubuntu-es is empty
[18:35] <henry_> the channel Ubuntu-es is empty
[18:36] <Bogus8> henry_: no it isn't
[18:36] <spiky_> Bogus8: In mine i added ip add then server name. /etc/hosts
[18:36] <Bogus8> spiky_: let me check that on this server to see if that is what I did here (this one works)
[18:37] <magnetron> Bogus8, they need to be in the same Workgroup
[18:37] <Bogus8> spiky_: nope, they are identical... this one is working but the new one isn't
[18:37] <Bogus8> magnetron: I got that
[18:37] <spiky_> Bogus8: think I read you wrong you mean win to ubuntu
[18:37] <magnetron> Bogus8, did you add them to the same workgroup?
[18:37] <Bogus8> spiky_: yeah... on windows, I want to see the linux box in Network Neighborhood (sorry if I wasn't clear enough)
[18:38] <Bogus8> magnetron: yes... it's default "Workgroup"
[18:38] <spiky_> MY mistake mis read
[18:38] <magnetron> Bogus8, on ALL the computers?
[18:38] <shashankp> hi, i was wondering how to compile/run knuth's .w files. Any pointers?
[18:38] <Bogus8> magnetron: yes... I have a decent size network and I understand work groups... I just can't get this to show up
[18:39] <Bogus8> magnetron: you don't always have to be on the same workgroup... just makes it easier for those that don't understand that you can browse other workgroups
[18:39] <Bogus8> magnetron: BUT, mine are all on the same as I have no need for other workgroups
[18:40] <jhaluska> Hi, I recently did a motherboard upgrade and my sound stopped working.  My last motherboard had to be tweaked to use OSS.  Two people have been working on it so the sound system is in a bit of an unknown state.  Can anybody help me with it?
[18:40] <Bogus8> do I need to make my [home] "browsable" for it to show up?
[18:40] <Bogus8> or does just creating a [CUSTOM] share section work to broadcast netbios info?
[18:41] <magnetron> Bogus8, you need at least one share. doesn't need to be [home]
[18:41] <TGP1994> Does anyone happen to know where the config file is for an LTSP server? I keep seeing mentions of the client config, but not the server.
[18:41] <Bogus8> magnetron: I have a "[STORAGE]" created... even added "browsable = yes" though I didn't think it was relative.
[18:41] <magnetron> Bogus8, when i had your problem i discovered i had a software firewall on the windows box that blocked the traffic
[18:41] <Bogus8> magnetron: as I said, I have a decent size network here and I can see all the rest of them
[18:42] <Bogus8> including my other linux box
[18:43] <veovis_muaddib> My mother's computer is set up on Ubuntu 10.04, but she doesn't have a big hard drive.  To fix this, I leave her pictures on her computer, but I use fstab to mount smb shares at ~/Music and ~/Videos.  This works really well, but every now and then the directories get unmounted, due to the server going down for maintenance, or her moving her computer to another network, or anything like that.  Any ideas how I can automatically remount
[18:43] <veovis_muaddib> unmounted, and _only_ if it is unmounted and on the right network?
[18:43] <magnetron> Bogus8, are you sure the full samba is installed? there's a samba config created even on the clients. no offense
[18:43] <Bogus8> magnetron: no offence taken, you got to make sure of all things... I used tasksel to install Samba so it *should* have installed everything.
[18:44] <Bogus8> magnetron: as I said, I can get to the shares if I use the local IP address
[18:44] <magnetron> yeah, right
[18:44] <magnetron> hmm, Bogus8, i got no idea.
[18:45] <Bogus8> magnetron: yeah, I've been googling since yesterday and trying things... but nothing.
[18:46] <magnetron> Bogus8, check if NMB is running
[18:47] <Bogus8> magnetron: good call, it isn't... hmm what gives?
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> the findsmb and smbtree commands are also handy to 'scan' the network and may give some clues in samba trouble shooting
[18:47] <magnetron> Bogus8, look for the phrase "nmb" in the relevant logs (i don't know which one)
[18:48] <Bogus8> magnetron: will check for it
[18:48] <Bogus8> Dr_Willis: thanks, I'll look into those also
[18:49] <magnetron> Bogus8, there's an option in smb.conf for enabling/disabling NMB IIRC.
[18:49] <Bogus8> magnetron: *looking*
[18:49] <ikonia> just don't start the nmb daemon ?
[18:50] <magnetron> ikonia, it should start but it doesn't
[18:52] <Orr3bO> Someone here who has problem with pidgin hangs up?
[18:53] <symptom> suggestions for a simple video editor?  I need to rotate and cut out clips, thats all
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> turn people upside down? :)
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> pitivi (sp?) kino. and i think theres one or 2 others out there.
[18:54] <symptom> it is from my iphone, it was too big to email so I had to ssh in and scp it over to my linux box
[18:54] <symptom> now it is turned sideways
[18:54] <Bogus8> ikonia: I'm having problems (can't) connect to linux box from windows using netbios name... using IP address works fine.
[18:55] <daphne_> <<<
[18:55] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis,  hey how can i increase the power settings on wifi card ?
[18:55] <magnetron> I have a problem with graphics in Lucid. Ever since I installed it i've experienced that all text on the screen (even menu names) becomes replaced with horizontal lines. only thing that fixes it is to switch to a virtual terminal and back. this happens at random intervals, but more often if i use Desktop Effects. using a Nvidia GT220 with the nvidia-current drivers from the ubuntu repositories.
[18:55] <ebertbarkleAa> !flash
[18:56] <magnetron> symptom, pitivi, kdenlive, avidemux. try them all, it's free
[18:56] <teemo> so all the automatic ways of installing my wireless usb adapter failed
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  no idea. i rarely mess with that stuff
[18:57] <teemo> so now for manual install
[18:57] <Bogus8> magnetron: nothing in the samba logs. :(
[18:57] <teemo> i have the linux drivers downloaded from: http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=downloads.doSearchCriteria&localeCode=EN_GBR&productCategory=5&modelNumber=1699&partNumber=4338&downloadType=1&knowsPartNumber=false
[18:57] <teemo> how do i manually install drivers in ubuntu?
[18:58] <roky> Does anyone else have any issues running Wow, in ubuntu 10.04? Keep the updater keeps crashing on me. bah.
[18:58] <magnetron> Bogus8, do you happen to use wifi on this computer?
[18:58] <Bogus8> magnetron: not on the server but on the client end
[18:59] <magnetron> roky, for support with specific apps in Wine, go to #winehq or their web pages
[18:59] <io> Is there a guide on the Ubuntu wiki on setting up SSH keys? (I am aware how to do it, just seeking something on the Ubuntu wiki to pass to a friend).
[18:59] <roky> magnetron: yeah, Been there, Just wandering if anyone "here" has had specific problems
[18:59] <magnetron> Bogus8, are you running mysql on the server
[18:59] <fati> o
[18:59] <Bogus8> magnetron: it is set up... I installed the LAMP option in tasksel also
[19:00] <slidinghorn> io, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[19:00] <TGP1994> Hi everyone, I guess what I'm trying to do here is setup a DHCP server on a network that also has a dhcp server. Here's a map of my network: http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q449/tgp1994/netmap.png Basically I want to assign the dhcpd server on my ubuntu box to the card eth1, although I'm confused as to what settings I should be putting in dhcpd.conf.
[19:00] <io> slidinghorn: Appreciate it. :-)
[19:00] <magnetron> Bogus8, when i scroogle i get some various forum posts about mysql conflicting with nmbd
[19:00] <Oer> io your friend has a lot of reading http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/Openssh-server - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[19:00] <io> slidinghorn: I searched for 30 minutes and came up with nothing! :-)
[19:01] <Bogus8> magnetron: hmm... i'm in the ol' google now looking... let me add mysql tot he query
[19:01] <barraponto> how big must my partition be in order to install lucid?
[19:01] <io> !requirements | barraponto
[19:01] <slidinghorn> io, for future reference, there's a google-like site called http://www.googlubuntu.com that is solely for ubuntu questions...give it a shot sometimes :)
[19:01] <SHyx0rmZ> Hello, I just upgraded to 10.04 from 9.10 and like ALL of my system is fucked: For starters, I would like a running window manager so I can clean up the mess
[19:01] <IdleOne> SHyx0rmZ: Please watch the language
[19:02] <TGP1994> Can anyone help me?
[19:02] <slidinghorn> SHyx0rmZ, well, it should have one installed, so let's start with what error(s) you're getting?
[19:02] <io> slidinghorn: Wow. :-)
[19:02] <magnetron> Bogus8, also see this bug (should be fixed if you update your ubuntu install) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/462169
[19:02] <barraponto> io: i have a 7gb partition reserved to /, and a huge partition for /home (i'm upgrading from hardy)
[19:03] <lutinvert> when i open a rar from a samba mount using file roller, it tells me the archive is read-only, even though the mount is read-write. is there any way around that?
[19:03] <Bogus8> magnetron: I updated last night but I'll update again just to see if some how it was missed
[19:03] <barraponto> io: should 7gb be enough? wiki says 5gb is enough, but i will need ubuntu-restricted-extras, and etc.
[19:03] <magnetron> Bogus8, which version of ubuntu is this?
[19:03] <Bogus8> magnetron: 10.4 server
[19:03] <SHyx0rmZ> slidinghorn, If I try to start metacity (because that's what the forum posts say) it says "assertion failed : (workspace_names[i] != NULL)
[19:03] <io> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | barraponto
[19:03] <terry> Any support here for 64bit system?  (Such as how to istall firefox32 and flash-plugin32?)
[19:04] <io> barraponto: That package is only 32 kB.
[19:04] <barraponto> io: loads of dependencies, it is just a metapackage
[19:04] <slidinghorn> barraponto, I usually recommend that you give it 10gb, but i've "heard" anecdotal evidence that 10gb has been too little...I'd say 12-15gb would be more than enough
[19:04] <barraponto> io: java, flash, gstreamer-bad and gstreamer ugly
[19:05] <barraponto> slidinghorn: i hope mom is not one of those 12gb cases. point is i'll have to try installing first on 7gb, then resize later...
[19:05] <SHyx0rmZ> starting compiz didn't work the last time I tried it, but strangely it does now
[19:05] <terry> The 64bit flash-plugin is mostly broken.. so....
[19:05] <TGP1994> Ermm... can anyone help?
[19:05] <io> barraponto: I was going to say 10 GB too.
[19:05] <veovis_muaddib> If I'm mounting samba shares using the fstab, and the shares get unmounted because of the server going down or the computer moving out of range of the network, how can I check at regular intervals after the shares are unmounted, whether or not I'm on the right network, and if I am, reconnect automatically?
[19:06] <veovis_muaddib> TGP1994: Possibly, please ask your question.
[19:06] <Bogus8> magnetron: well, I did a service nmbd restart and it is up and running... guess I'll need to reboot to see if it can stay up
[19:06] <magnetron> Bogus8, if you seldom restart the server you could workaround this by running "sudo service samba restart" after boot
[19:06] <TGP1994> Hi everyone, I guess what I'm trying to do here is setup a DHCP server on a network that also has a dhcp server. Here's a map of my network: http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q449/tgp1994/netmap.png Basically I want to assign the dhcpd server on my ubuntu box to the card eth1, although I'm confused as to what settings I should be putting in dhcpd.conf.
[19:06] <Bogus8> magnetron: jinx ;)
[19:06] <magnetron> Bogus8, heh
[19:07] <barraponto> io: slidinghorn: thanks a lot
[19:07] <dad3> The selected device has a static IP address. DMZplus requires that the selected device use DHCP to obtain its IP address.
[19:07] <TGP1994> veovis_muaddib: Any ideas?
[19:07] <dad3> what does that mean
[19:08] <veovis_muaddib> TGP1994: Sorry, I'm pretty bad with networking
[19:08] <magnetron> dad3, you are using manually assigned IPs instead of automatic
[19:08] <veovis_muaddib> I'd be stumped
[19:08] <TGP1994> veovis_muaddib: Alright, thanks anyways.
[19:08] <TGP1994> Anyone else have any ideas?
[19:09] <dad3> so do i need to change a router setting or something in ubunto?
[19:09] <sweetpi> TGP1994: what are you trying to do?
[19:09] <SHyx0rmZ> If I press ALT+{1,2,3,4,5,6} nothing happens, but the combos are bound to moving the window to desktop 1,2,3,4,5,6, other combos with ALT work
[19:10] <SHyx0rmZ> Is it just me or are the last two chars of my messages missing?
[19:10] <TGP1994> sweetpi: Essentially get LTSP up and running. I'm using this basically for experimentational purposes. I really don't understand why it needs a dhcpd server, I'd really much prefer that it relies on the one in my router.
[19:10] <CharlieBucket> I've set up internet sharing between two computers, configured through NetworkManager, but it doesn't give me access to the server's shared folders or ssh for instance. Does anyone know how I should go about to make that available to the client?
[19:11] <sweetpi> TGP1994: since your using ddwrt, you should be able to set the dhcp boot "filename" on it
[19:11] <teemo> can someone plz help me manually install drivers for my wireless usb adapter
[19:11] <veovis_muaddib> That had me confused as to why you would do it, thanks for explaining TGP1994
[19:11] <exelnet> heya. ubuntu is starting mysql even if it isnt listed in any runlevel? i disabled it with rcconf and update-rc.d. any idea?
[19:11] <teemo> i am in the drivers' folder, but i dont know where to go from there
[19:11] <mrsiebel> CharlieBucket Have you port forwarded for ssh..etc via your router?
[19:11] <veovis_muaddib> teemo: What USB adapter is it?
[19:12] <TGP1994> sweetpi: Ermm... got any links? I saw one for directing this DNSMasq thing to my server, although I think LTSP still wants to boot dhcp. Otherwise, how do I bind LTSP to a specific network adapter?
[19:12] <veovis_muaddib> Do you have a model number or something?
[19:12] <sweetpi> TGP1994: are you using thin or fat client?
[19:12] <sweetpi> TGP1994: btw #ltsp
[19:12] <CharlieBucket> mrsiebel, sorry but I really don't understand what that means, could you explain a little bit further?
[19:12] <teemo> veovis_muaddib: SMCWUSBS-N3
[19:12] <TGP1994> sweetpi: In the end, I'd like to be using a thin-client like setup
[19:13] <TGP1994> sweetpi: Oh, I;ll head over there.
[19:13] <mrsiebel> CharlieBucket: You have networked 2 computers inside your network to work with FTP and SSH right?
[19:13] <dad3> wtf sweetpi is a weirdo
[19:14] <sweetpi> hmm ok
[19:14] <quidnunc> I had a ssh fuse mount that seems to have gotten my system locked up because the network got temporarily disconnected. Several applications have become hung, presumably trying to stat the mount (zsh hangs whenever I try to 'ls' it). I can't seem to unmount it because it is in use (and I can't seem to kill the zsh process using it, even with -9). What can I do?
[19:14] <mrsiebel> CharlieBucket: If you are on a wireless network you have to allow the port locally to run by forwarding port 22 (SSH) via iptables your firewall and through your router to allow internet access
[19:15] <CharlieBucket> mrsiebel, well at the moment I can access internet from the client by way of the server (wired connection).
[19:15] <CharlieBucket> I have done nothing concerning ftp or ssh, i
[19:15] <CharlieBucket> I suppose.
[19:15] <veovis_muaddib> teemo: okay, so you downloaded the official drivers from their site and extracted them?
[19:15] <mrsiebel> CharlieBucket Whats your ultimate goal?
[19:16] <CharlieBucket> To access my shared folders at the server from my client. And to access my server by ssh from my client.
[19:16] <mrsiebel> Your Ubuntu Shared Folders or Windows Shares?
[19:16] <teemo> veovis_muaddib: yes
[19:17] <CharlieBucket> Windows shares. But I suppose I could just as well use ftp.
[19:17] <mrsiebel> Nah Shares are faster than FTP
[19:17] <CharlieBucket> I see.
[19:18] <CharlieBucket> And more user-friendly when using Ubuntu, I suppose.
[19:18] <Bogus8> magnetron: well, rebooted and everything seems fine... guess there was a glitch when I updated last night
[19:18] <mrsiebel> So on your windows box you want to share whatever folder that you do
[19:18] <zachlr1> !seen oCean_
[19:18] <mrsiebel> And on your client side (Ubuntu)
[19:19] <mrsiebel> You want to set up Samba and PyNeightborhood
[19:19] <magnetron> Bogus8, cheers!
[19:19] <veovis_muaddib> teemo: I found the installation instructions, run $ cat README_STA_usb | more
[19:19] <veovis_muaddib> from inside the directory you extracted to
[19:19] <Bogus8> magnetron: thanks for you help... learned something yet again here. :)
[19:20] <magnetron> Bogus8, me too
[19:20] <CharlieBucket> No, I apologise for explaining my self poorly, the server run Ubuntu 10.04 lts desktop x86-64, the other is an eee with UNE 10.04 (the client so to speak).
[19:20] <oCean_> zachlr1: I'm here.. kinda busy though..
[19:20] <Bogus8> lol
[19:20] <miked595> tonsofpcs: you here?
[19:20] <Maletor> What's the best way to compress my png images? pngcrush? optipng? something else?
[19:20] <veovis_muaddib> Teemo: it gives pretty easy to follow instructions on how to install, but if they fail, tell us and we'll help figure out what went wrong
[19:20] <lotus> what are you talking about today?
[19:21] <mrsiebel> Thats ok, set up Samba Shares on both
[19:21] <zachlr1> oCean_, yesterday you helped me with deleting folders and files on a FAT32 partition that contained illegal characters. I just wanted to let you know that I was able to fix the problem using chkdisk /f on Windows. I would bet testdisk on Ubuntu would have had the same effect. Thanks.
[19:21] <oCean_> lotus: this is ubuntu technical support, social chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:21] <mrsiebel> sudo apt-get install samba
[19:21] <CharlieBucket> Is that a package I install? If so, would you supply me with the name?
[19:21] <mgcc> hey guys im having a bit of trouble with setting up my dual screen can anyone help me please?
[19:21] <mostafakvd> how to install packages without getting the package list from internet?
[19:21] <CharlieBucket> aha. thanks
[19:21] <oCean_> zachlr1: okay! Good to hear it worked out!
[19:21] <magnetron> Maletor, png compression is non-destructive and the various tools should yield very similar results. it's deterministic - there's only one way to do it
[19:21] <slidinghorn> !best > Maletor
[19:22] <magnetron> Maletor, the only thing you could fiddle with is the removal of meta-data
[19:22] <SHyx0rmZ> Is there any way to get window borders without compiz in 10.04?
[19:22] <MaddTechWF> Can anyone tell me how to restart Samba?
[19:23] <Maletor> magnetron: ah thank you. so i guess what i'm looking for is to save it as a jpg. since it's a picture of teh boston skyline
[19:23] <veovis_muaddib> SHyx0rmZ: Meticity (sp) should take care of that, it's the default Window Manager in Ubutnu
[19:23] <CharlieBucket> Samba is now installed on both computers.
[19:23] <mrsiebel> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-10.04-samba-standalone-server-with-tdbsam-backend
[19:23] <SHyx0rmZ> veovis_muaddib, metacity crashes
[19:23] <magnetron> Maletor, that would probably be a good idea. if it's just one image i'd recommend GIMP
[19:24] <Maletor> magnetron: using GIMP :)
[19:24] <mrsiebel> PyNeighborhood is a user-friendly interface to help you set up shares
[19:24] <mgcc> the problem with my dual screen settings is that it is working but the second screen is not actually allowing the resolution i need... screen 1 (main screen) is 1280x1024 and screen 2 is 640x480 with no option to change it to higher resolution
[19:24] <Maletor> magnetron: and if it's more?
[19:24] <mrsiebel> sudo apt-get install pyneighborhood
[19:24] <veovis_muaddib> SHyx0rmZ: Which of these have you tried?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window_manager#X_Window_managers
[19:24] <CharlieBucket> Aha, but how will that work with NetworkManager?
[19:25] <magnetron> Maletor, if what is more than what?
[19:25] <mrsiebel> It will modifiy Network Manager for you
[19:25] <carlene> need help
[19:25] <CharlieBucket> Aha.. I see.
[19:25] <Maletor> magnetron: if it's more than one image
[19:25] <veovis_muaddib> SHyx0rmZ: I'm not sure which ones have window borders and which don't, and a lot of those are TWMs, but something in there should be what you need.
[19:25] <mrsiebel> carlene: dont ask to ask for help just post your question
[19:26] <carlene> installed ubuntu on this laptop, dvd wont read
[19:26] <jeffreyf> Bluetooth: Can pair headphones but won't reconnect to headphones when headphones come back online
[19:26] <red> Heya, on my GFs laptop there are no texts on the desktop icons
[19:26] <red> No idea how she has managed to hide them :)
[19:26] <CharlieBucket> So pyneigherhood should only be installed on the server side of course?
[19:26] <mgcc> when i go and check my xorg.conf file i find this: http://www.pastie.org/1049519
[19:26] <magnetron> Maletor, i use ImageMagick for bulk conversion of images. i think there's also some context-menu tool that you can use in nautilus
[19:26] <SHyx0rmZ> veovis_muaddib, I hope that one those works, my main problem isn't the window borders, but the inability to move windows or switch between windows
[19:26] <mgcc> can anyone help me please?
[19:26] <Maletor> carlene: Did you do System=>Administration=>Hardware Drivers?
[19:26] <carlene> yes
[19:26] <carlene> nothing shows up
[19:26] <mrsiebel> CharlieBucket: You can install it on both
[19:26] <veovis_muaddib> I like openbox, I'd try that first
[19:26] <Maletor> magnetron: man convert?
[19:27] <veovis_muaddib> I like openbox, I'd try that first was directed at SHyx0rmZ
[19:27] <CharlieBucket> Ok, but what about ssh access?
[19:27] <jeffreyf> Bluetooth: Can pair headphones but won't reconnect to headphones when headphones come back online.  Need to unpair and re-pair each time.
[19:27] <magnetron> Maletor, yes. often you can just google the task and there'll be a shell command/script that does the task
[19:27] <mrsiebel> CharlieBucket: I am having trouble with my package manager so I cant go through the emotions with you
[19:28] <veovis_muaddib> SHyx0rmZ: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:GNOME/Openbox looks like a good guide to integrating with GNOME
[19:28] <CharlieBucket> mrsiebel, thank you so much for all you help so far. I have come very close to my goal I believe.
[19:28] <mrsiebel> Not a problem
[19:28] <red> Heya, on my GFs laptop there are no texts on the desktop icons, how can I get them visible?
[19:29] <magnetron> Maletor, usually you use a shell script that ls all the png files in a folder and, run 'convert' or 'mogrify' for each file and save the result as 'original_filename'.jpg
[19:29] <SHyx0rmZ> veovis_muaddib, thanks
[19:29] <veovis_muaddib> No problem, tell me if it works please, if I'm still on
[19:30] <mrsiebel> CharlieBucket: If you go to the folder on the server you want to share right click on it and hit the share tab
[19:30] <carlene> when i insert a dvd, it shows up on the desktop, in "places" it just wont play
[19:30] <CharlieBucket> Yes
[19:30] <mostafakvd> how to install packages without getting the package list from internet?
[19:30] <CharlieBucket> so done
[19:30] <mrsiebel> And click Share This Folder
[19:30] <mrsiebel> carlene: do you have gstreamer installed?
[19:30] <CharlieBucket> Yep, that is obvious to me, just to let you know what my level of expertise is.
[19:31] <chrissharp123> !dvd | red
[19:31] <mrsiebel> Haha ok cool
[19:31] <carlene> let me check
[19:31] <CharlieBucket> Has gstreamer anything with this to do? I'll check.
[19:31] <mrsiebel> Not Samba
[19:31] <carlene> which one
[19:32] <red> chrissharp123: how does that have to do with default sans 10 font not showing up only on desktop?
[19:32] <chrissharp123> red: sorry - that was meant for carlene
[19:32] <red> ah
[19:32] <yur15t> need help! when i turn on my ubuntu it is in sleep mode. seems that this problem appeared after i installed proprietary ATI driver. I have Radeon HD5470. Does anyone has an idea how to fix it?
[19:32] <chrissharp123> :-)
[19:32] <mrsiebel> carlene install all of them more specifically you want gstreamer bad plugins
[19:33] <carlene> is there a quick way to install them all?
[19:33] <kopter> Hey! If I download the latest version of firefox from mozilla website and install it manually, will I see updates of it in the update manager?
[19:33] <jeffreyf> Can pair bluetooth headphones but won't reconnect to headphones when headphones come back online.  Need to unpair and re-pair each time.  Any help to make a connection each time the BT headphones are turned on like it does on Windows?
[19:33] <mrsiebel> carlene sudo synaptic in terminal
[19:33] <mrsiebel> Search: gstreamer
[19:33] <mrsiebel> Tick all the boxes
[19:34] <CharlieBucket> mrsiebel, sharing works great. Thanks.
[19:34] <mrsiebel> Then Install
[19:34] <mrsiebel> Awesome man!
[19:35] <carlene> ok, did it, now what
[19:35] <CharlieBucket> I feel guilty for taking more of you time, but ... well... no excuse; SSH;
[19:35] <CharlieBucket> I try:
[19:35] <mrsiebel> CharlieBucket: Check out NixiePixel on Youtube - Samba
[19:35] <CharlieBucket> jarla@Artemis:~$ ssh jarla@10.42.43.1
[19:35] <CharlieBucket> ssh: connect to host 10.42.43.1 port 22: Connection refused
[19:35] <FloodBot2> CharlieBucket: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:36] <mrsiebel> carlene: whats the DVD?
[19:36] <chrissharp123> kopter: no, but you might benefit from this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[19:36] <CharlieBucket> Ok, will do.
[19:36] <mrsiebel> Its cool Charlie, thats why we are here
[19:36] <kopter> chrissharp123,  Thanks very much.
[19:37] <CharlieBucket> :-)
[19:37] <FabParma> Big problem... I have 2 LAN. Until now I set one with gateway and the other only with ip and subnet. Until today everything all OK. Today when I access to on LAN Ubuntu 10.04 disable the other one ... *WHY????*
[19:38] <carlene> ive tried several, says, "could not read from resource"
[19:38] <fearful> How can I always run ubuntu apci=off?
[19:38] <MaddTechWF> Can anyone help me with my issue I'm having with Samba.  I have Samba setup on my Ubuntu 10.04 machine and have 2 hard drives shared.  When i go to \\computer-name\ I get a list of my shares.  When I try to click on the share it tells me its not accessible.  What have I done wrong?
[19:39] <parthbakshi> does anyone know how to get the HP ir remote working with ubuntu 10.04
[19:39] <fearful> How can I always run ubuntu acpi=off?
[19:40] <Maletor> Is compressing a JPG the same thing as transcoding an MP3? That is to say lossy->lossy?
[19:40] <xawan> Hey
[19:40] <trism> fearful: append it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and run sudo update-grub;
[19:40] <FabParma> Big problem... I have 2 LAN. Until now I set one with gateway and the other only with IP and subnet. Until yesterday everything went OK. Today when I access to one LAN Linux disable the other one ... *WHY????*
[19:40] <lampliter> would like to use my MS bluetooth keyboard in win7 and linux (dual boot system) without re-pairing.  any ideas how?
[19:41] <chrissharp123> CharlieBucket: the "connection refused" error means that port 22 on the computer you're trying to ssh into is closed - it may mean that openssh-server is not installed or running
[19:41] <xawan> who can give me a hand with this bloody broadcom card?
[19:42] <scriptwarlock> fearful: please read here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:42] <slidinghorn> !details | xawan
[19:42] <lotus> window manager doesn't start with the session in ubuntu 10.4.help me. what is the problem?
[19:42] <xawan> okay
[19:43] <SHyx0rmZ> If I'm using metacity, I can't change the number of workspaces. Any fix for that?
[19:43] <jeffreyf> Can pair bluetooth headphones but won't reconnect to headphones when headphones come back online.  Need to unpair and re-pair each time.  Any help to make a connection each time the BT headphones are turned on like it does on Windows?
[19:43] <slidinghorn> xawan, also, try to keep it to one line...if you have multiple lines (i.e. terminal output) use http://paste.ubuntu.com :)
[19:44] <lotus> window manager doesn't start with the session in ubuntu 10.4.help me. what is the problem?
[19:44] <jad_> hey, what's a good simple program to make a photo slideshow that has some basic features (a couple of transition effects and the ability to put a caption under every pic).
[19:44] <fearful> scriptwarlock, thanks
[19:44] <xawan> I actually have the broadcom BCM4311 running ubuntu 10.04 / in the bar appaere that It's disactived. Im using the B43 wireless driver
[19:44] <jad_> i tried fspot but it doesn't seem to have captions or transition effects
[19:44] <JessD> Can anyone help me get audio working over HDMI with an Nvidia geforce 9200under 9.10?
[19:45] <scriptwarlock> fearful: located somewhere in configuring grub2
[19:45] <lotus> window manager doesn't start with the session in ubuntu 10.4.help me. what is the problem?
[19:46] <barbiere> #mumble
[19:46] <fearful> scriptwarlock, alright I will take note when its done installing, wouldn't be different if its 64bit right, because this machine has only ubuntu 10.04 32bit other one is 64 and dual booting
[19:46] <jammin_jay_jay> yoooo all
[19:47] <xawan> Sorry Im new in ubuntu haha, any idea?
[19:47] <JessD> jad_ : Tried the Linux version of Picasa?
[19:47] <fearful> scriptwarlock, thanks I found exactly where man!
[19:48] <scriptwarlock> fearful: :)
[19:48] <jammin_jay_jay> hey whats the best im client for ubuntu?
[19:48] <slidinghorn> lotus, you need to give more detail...please don't repeat your question quickly -- Your question doesn't really describe your problem very well...are you saying that when you login (do you have a GUI for your login?) a window manager doesn't load?  which WM do you use?
[19:48] <slidinghorn> !best | jammin_jay_jay
[19:49] <slidinghorn> jammin_jay_jay, the default is empathy...many also prefer pidgin -- either will do fine
[19:49] <SHyx0rmZ> lotus, are you using metacity?
[19:49] <jammin_jay_jay> OK- is there an im client that I can dock to the right side of the screen?
[19:49] <scriptwarlock> jammin_jay_jay: really depends on your taste some likes gyachi
[19:49] <lotus> i'm using gnome
[19:49] <teemo> what does the following command do: "run $ cat README_STA_usb | more"?
[19:49] <SHyx0rmZ> lotus, try opening a terminal and type "metacity --replace"
[19:49] <mgcc> hey guys i need some help here with seting up my dual screen can anyone help me please?
[19:50] <slidinghorn> lotus: gnome is a Desktop Environment (DE) that uses Metacity for a Window Manager (WM)
[19:50] <llutz> teemo: shows you that textfile
[19:50] <lotus> the problem is when start session
[19:50] <JessD> teemo: it types the contents of a file names REDME_STA_usb a screen at a time and gives you another screen full when you hit a key
[19:50] <SHyx0rmZ> lotus, does it work this way?
[19:50] <llutz> teemo: another example of useless use of cat
[19:51] <lampliter> any chance for some help with bluetooth devices and dualboot?
[19:51] <lotus> yes.it works but is necesary activate the compiz fusion manually.
[19:51] <serom> ciao
[19:51] <barfster> I am trying to login via VNC to an Ubuntu node, it is not possible before the a local user is logged in...
[19:51] <SHyx0rmZ> lotus, then I don't have a clue, I got nearly the same problem, only it's caused by using more than 16 workspaces
[19:52] <lotus> but i only have 4
[19:52] <JessD> barfster : Are you relying on the Share Session setting in Gnome?
[19:52] <kielanmatt> hi, my wireless network card works... but lshw, lspci and lsusb along with iwconfig do not show what driver it is... can you please help me to get the name of it?
[19:52] <SHyx0rmZ> lotus, try opening settings -> startup applications
[19:52] <slidinghorn> lotus...you should answer the questions in my previous post...
[19:53] <JessD> barfster : Remote Desktop, rather?
[19:53] <lotus> yes,what more?
[19:53] <sweetpi> kielanmatt: lsmod | grep mac80211
[19:53] <xawan> anyone knows what can I do? I tried a lot of ways to make this thing work :S STA/B43/diswrapper but it still isnt work. lspci detect the card but appaere desactived in the bar and It didn't detect any wifi network
[19:53] <barfster> JessD: It’s a setting in GNOME, yes
[19:53] <SHyx0rmZ> lotus, and add "/usr/bin/compiz"
[19:53] <barfster> That somebody on here told me to use.
[19:53] <SHyx0rmZ> if this doesn't work, try slidinghorn's advice
[19:54] <JessD> barfster: That's why.  That setting uses Vino, which is not a "true" vnc server in the sense that a user must be logged in before it provides a desktop.
[19:54] <kielanmatt> ar9170usb?
[19:54] <barfster> JessD: What is the real VNC implementation then?
[19:54] <kielanmatt> sweetpi: is that it?
[19:54] <cryptk> so... my wired network is showing disconnected for some reason but the wire is connected and I do have link lights on the NIC/router
[19:54] <cryptk> any ideas?
[19:54] <barfster> JessD: I would prefer a user based one
[19:55] <sweetpi> kielanmatt: yes
[19:55] <lotus> i trie to do that and all the So is slow?
[19:55] <JessD> barfster: What is it that you want to do, exactly?  Is this just for you, or for multiple users?
[19:55] <kielanmatt> sweetpi: how can i get that workiing with kismet
[19:56] <cryptk> also my MAC address in network config in Ubuntu shows as BFBFBFBFBFBF
[19:56] <barfster> Multiple users would be good
[19:56] <barfster> It’s actually multiple tasks for me
[19:56] <barfster> But I use 3 different users to do different tasks.
[19:56] <sweetpi> kielanmatt: no idea, just showing you what driver :)
[19:56] <kielanmatt> oh
[19:56] <barfster> One for accounting, one for engineering and one for creative stuff
[19:57] <SHyx0rmZ> using more than 16 workspaces on 10.04 workaround: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/545695
[19:57] <JessD> barfster : You are logging in to the same machine yourself as three seperate users to keep tasks seperate?
[19:57] <barfster> JessD: Affimative
[19:57] <JessD> barfster : Makes sense.  OK, sounds like you need to get a firm grip on the syntax of vnc server itself.
[19:57] <barfster> Each their separate documents folders and each their own mail robots
[19:57] <JessD> barfster : You comfortable at command line?
[19:57] <xawan> whats the command to active the wifi card???
[19:58] <barfster> JessD: More than with GUI
[19:58] <JessD> barfster : :) With your methodology for task seperation, I thought as much.
[19:58] <JessD> barfster : You want to install....
[19:58] <cesc_> how do I sort the OS in GRUB list?
[19:58] <cablop> i have this noob question, and i'm not a noob but a windows-biased user
[19:58] <teemo> so im following the instructions to install the drivers for my wireless usb adapter
[19:58] <cablop> how much disk space do i need to install a useful ubuntu?
[19:59] <teemo> i type make
[19:59] <cablop> 10 GB? 20GB 50 GB?
[19:59] <teemo> and i get the following error:
[19:59] <teemo> cp: cannot create regular file `/tftpboot': Permission denied
[19:59] <JessD> barfster: either vnc4server or tightvncserver
[19:59] <JessD> barfster : You can really install both and give them both a spin, really
[19:59] <barfster> JessD: vnc4? is that a new protocol?
[19:59] <cryptk> and sudo ifconfig eth0 up returns "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address"
[19:59] <JessD> barfster : They're both vnc protocol
[19:59] <barfster> RFB3 mine says
[20:00] <JessD> barfster : Just different ways of accomplishing same job, different feature sets
[20:00] <mgcc> can anyone here help me setup my dual screen on ubuntu pleasE?
[20:00] <cablop> i want to replace Windows with Ubuntu in this machine, but not willing to deal with resizing partitions later, so how much you would recommend? i don't need space for games and other things, as long as i can leave them in its windows partition or put in a nother place...
[20:00] <xawan> are there an option for the network manager default???
[20:00] <noway777> I have 2 LAN. Until now I set one with gateway and the other only with IP and subnet. Until yesterday everything went OK. Today when I access to one LAN Linux disable the other one ...  Why?
[20:00] <barfster> I would like one that can transfer clipboards, apart from that everything should be fine, even though I usually use e-mail for that purpose.
[20:01] <itsnatesudz> how do i view the output for wine?
[20:01] <JessD> barfster : It's been a while since I've done what you're doing, but if memory serves, each user will have a dot file that tells vnc server how X will start up when they fire VNC server
[20:01] <jeffreyf> Can pair bluetooth headphones but won't reconnect to headphones when headphones come back online.  Need to unpair and re-pair each time.  Any help to make a connection each time the BT headphones are turned on like it does on Windows?
[20:01] <chrissharp123> cablop: it depends on your needs, but I think 20 GB minimum would be good - some minis only have 8 GB hard drives - it's totally up to you
[20:01] <mgcc> ping mgcc
[20:01] <barfster> JessD: Sounds like a plan.
[20:01] <monokrome> hey
[20:01] <JessD> barfster: Hmm, clipboard sharing is a bit of a pain; I usually do xclip after specifying the desktop you're sending to
[20:01] <monokrome> I just ubdated Ubuntu and it removed Windows from my GRUB menu
[20:02] <barfster> MacOS X client
[20:02] <Bogus8> can I tweak landscape-sysinfo to add extra partitions mounted?
[20:02] <JessD> barfster : Is this multimonitor, or a way of doing the opposite?
[20:02] <barfster> logging into ubuntu
[20:02] <barfster> in this case
[20:02] <chrissharp123> !grub | monokrome
[20:02] <teemo> im trying to run the command: $ cp RT2870STA.dat  /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/RT2870STA.dat
[20:02] <navid> hi i cannot install TOR on lucid. i followed the instructions in forum. but it doesn't work
[20:02] <database> apt-get install
[20:02] <barfster> This is mainly task separation, I am having an assistant help me filing vouchers.
[20:02] <monokrome> chrissharp123: That doesn't answer my question
[20:02] <teemo> and im getting: cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/RT2870STA.dat': No such file or directory
[20:02] <cablop> chrissharp123: thanks well what i plan to install is apache, mysql, postgresql and php and other things, but  always keep data in different partitions, so no databases or apache files would reside on systempartition, but i don;t want to waste space, i'm in a hard moment now with disk space, lol
[20:03] <cryptk> anyone have any ideas to try for my network issues? eth0 not coming up?
[20:03] <JessD> barfster: If your mac os vnc client shares clip, then it should pull the clip off the first window and push to second when you switch windows, if you follow
[20:03] <cryptk> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[20:03] <teemo> am i supposed to make the folder?
[20:03] <cablop> barfster: what do you need?
[20:03] <magnetron> cablop, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/amd64/minimum-hardware-reqts.html
[20:04] <JessD> Does anyone have experience with HDMI, 9.10, and Nvidia that they'd be willing to lend me?
[20:04] <JessD> Need help w/ HDMI audio...
[20:04] <cablop> thanks magnetron
[20:04] <chrissharp123> teemo: you need to preface with sudo - you don't have permission to put a folder/file in /etc as a regular user
[20:04] <navid> hi i cannot install TOR on lucid. i followed the instructions in forum. but it doesn't work
[20:04] <magnetron> cablop, if you don't want to waste any space i can recommend you set up LVM. you can easily expand the size of a file system using that system. you can also shrink partitions, but almost as simple as growing them
[20:04] <dido13> #ubuntu-ma
[20:04] <Shinigami> ohh wow, they just wont stop with the fake-green propaganda
[20:05] <navid> can anyone help me to install TOR in lucid
[20:05] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: are you using dhcp or static
[20:05] <Shinigami> this "The age of stupid" is the latest blow across the bow of reason
[20:05] <Shinigami> oops
[20:05] <Shinigami> wrong server
[20:05] <magnetron> !offtopic | Shinigami
[20:05] <teemo> chrissharp123: its saying there is no such folder
[20:05] <Shinigami> sorry guy, buh buy
[20:05] <cablop> magnetron: i never used LVM... i'm afraid of messing things with it.... can i recover lost partitions from it, for example?
[20:05] <barfster> cablop: A fully fledge VNC setup
[20:05] <barfster> preforably with user selection
[20:06] <barfster> like citrix
[20:06] <cablop> barfster: try tightvnc i used it and i liked, but not sure about the clipboard thing
[20:06] <itsnatesudz> can anybody tell me how to bring up output for wine so i can pastebin it? i'm terribly new to this all
[20:06] <chrissharp123> teemo: have you created it yet?  there's no default "/etc/Wireless" folder
[20:06] <savid> I'm curious -- is there an "ubuntu way" for automatically mounting hard disks (ie, one that doesn't involve editing /etc/fstab)?
[20:06] <barfster> clipboard is not a major issue
[20:06] <magnetron> cablop, i'm not sure what you mean with "recover lost partitions". you can make backups and you can make snapshots of the filesystem at a given moment.
[20:06] <JessD> barfster: There's two ways to think of clipboard
[20:06] <teemo> ok so i have to create it, i thought installers would do that kind of stuff
[20:07] <barfster> I will just teach her how to copy paste links and send them by email
[20:07] <noway777> More detailed description: I have 2 LAN. Until now I set one NIC with gateway, DNS etc and the other NIC only with IP and subnet. Until yesterday everything went OK. Today when I access to one LAN Linux disable the other one ...  Why?
[20:07] <chrissharp123> teemo: I don't know what you're trying to do - I was just explaining why the command you listed would fail :-)
[20:07] <JessD> barfster: Either (1) Your mac os x VNC client is going to pick up the contents of your Ubuntu machine's clipboard for you (mine does, using Chicken of the VNC)
[20:07] <scriptwarlock> savid: like an external hd?
[20:07] <barfster> But is there a VNC server that lets me use username and password to select which user I log into?
[20:07] <savid> scriptwarlock,  Or an internal HD -- one that was added after ubuntu was installed
[20:08] <magnetron> itsnatesudz, if you start the exe file with wine in a terminal you get all the text output in a terminal. start the terminal and type "wine /home/user/blah/something.exe" and press enter
[20:08] <teemo> chrissharp123: what the command for make directory?
[20:08] <JessD> barfster : Or you can get really weird and do something like send yourself clipboard text via SSH and screen
[20:08] <itsnatesudz> thank you mag
[20:08] <barfster> Or do I have to use the old clumsy way with several displays, one pr user?
[20:08] <chrissharp123> teemo: in this case, it's 'sudo mkdir [directoryname]'
[20:08] <dido13> #ubuntu-fr
[20:08] <scriptwarlock> savid: like a partitioned hd?
[20:08] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, DHCP
[20:09] <Bogus8> can I tweak landscape-sysinfo to add extra partitions mounted?
[20:09] <barfster> JessD: You mentioned vnc4Server, when I telnet to the current one it tell me: RFB 003.007
[20:09] <chrissharp123> teemo: where '[directoryname]' is the full path to the directory  - /etc/Wireless - if that's what you're trying to do
[20:09] <cryptk> weird thing is even in dmesg it shows the mac as bfbfbfbfbfbf
[20:09] <savid> scriptwarlock,  yes, a partitioned, formatted, disk.
[20:09] <navid> "requires installation of untrusted packages" wt the keck is this?
[20:09] <JessD> barfster : VNC on X creates a new X session for each instance served, which means yes, you're stuck with displays; that's X11, not VNC limiting...
[20:10] <barfster> But it’s possible to make 5900 the entry point and divert to user in question depending on username and password?
[20:10] <monokrome> Fixed it.
[20:10] <JessD> barfster: Not to my knowledge, no.
[20:10] <monokrome> For some reason Ubuntu put a boot folder into my Windows drive.
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> barfster:  vnc has lots of neat tricks and things one can do with it.  But ive not seen thazt trick done. what are you trying to acomplish?
[20:10] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, now I do also have virtualbox isntalled with it's network connection, but it all worked before I left town for two weeks... now I come back and I am wifi only
[20:11] <JessD> barfster : You're looking at something besides VNC; Remote Desktop under newer model Windows versions does that, but I'm not aware of a Linux equivalent.
[20:11] <scriptwarlock> savid: try to read this might help you have an idea in automounting partitioned hd.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1498130
[20:11] <magnetron> barfster, the username and pass in VNC is sent unencrypted on most implementations IIRC. i recommend you don't use it to select the user
[20:11] <kopter> !gwibber
[20:11] <cablop> magnetron: i want to do in the future a RAID 1 array so i think the simplier way is using real paretitions, i wonder if i can do that in the future with LVM
[20:11] <mgolisch> i like nx
[20:12] <ugoat> anyone help me with X11?  after I installed the nvidia drivers it doesn't display resolutions that i know the card and monitors are capable of. ubuntu 10.4, 8600 GT, 2 Viewsonic P220f monitors.
[20:12] <barfster> I am thinking: Can I have user voucher on 5901, barfster on 5902, Games on 5903
[20:12] <slidinghorn> !res | ugoat
[20:12] <JessD> barfster: Yes.
[20:12] <barfster> Set up 5900 for login, and change the port depending on login?
[20:13] <barfster> magnetron: It’s only on LAN
[20:13] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:13] <magnetron> cablop, do you have a physical RAID card? most software RAIDs (the one you enable in BIOS) are not supported in Linux
[20:13] <cablop> magnetron: i want to go with software raid in linux
[20:14] <Bogus8> can I tweak landscape-sysinfo to add extra partitions mounted?
[20:14] <magnetron> cablop, yes you can combine LVM and RAID. it suits alot of use cases
[20:14] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, tried that already, it says it is reconfiguring the interfaces, but no go
[20:14] <magnetron> !lvm | cablop
[20:14] <cryptk> odd thing is there is no entry in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> !info landscape-sysinfo
[20:14] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: still disabled?
[20:14] <teemo> so the build instructions im trying to follow are  here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/BK9hPjUy
[20:15] <teemo> i completed step 5, how do i do step 6?
[20:15] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: you can add
[20:16] <cheater99> hi
[20:16] <teemo> i went to the os/linux directory, but the mentioned folders dont exists, did i build something incorrectly?
[20:16] <cheater99> i have a very big problem
[20:16] <savid> scriptwarlock,  I just found pysdm -- seems to work well for a gui interface to fstab -- they should include that in the default install !
[20:16] <cheater99> i have just enabled some plugin in compiz and all my bars have disappeared
[20:16] <cheater99> can someone help me?
[20:16] <JessD> barfster: For the latter (routing a user from 5900 to 5901, etc), I'm not saying it _can't_ be done, but I certainly can't find anything in tightvnc, vnc4server, nor any other related tool that would perform such a function.  You're looking for a deeper magic...
[20:17] <barfster> Maybe I’ll have to look at its source?
[20:17] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: by default this is what it should have inside your network interfaces.. auto lo
[20:17] <scriptwarlock> iface lo inet loopback
[20:17] <JessD> cheater99 : Press Alt-F2, do type "gnome-panel", press enter?
[20:17] <patx> can an ubuntu member pm me?
[20:18] <slidinghorn> patx, it's better to have your problem voiced in the channel -- that way if someone in the future comes along, they can search the logs and have a solution :)
[20:18] <teemo> darn i guess i have to build inside the os/linux folder!
[20:18] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, so it shouldn't have an etntry for eth0?
[20:18] <scriptwarlock> savid: good you figure out
[20:18] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: you can add
[20:18] <patx> slidinghorn, its kinda something i dont want logged
[20:19] <slidinghorn> patx: why is that?
[20:19] <teemo> define the GCC and LD of the target machine?
[20:19] <teemo> define the compiler flags CFLAGS?
[20:20] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, http://pastebin.com/a0NthZmb
[20:20] <ScreamerX> hi there
[20:20] <Zolomon> how do I remove everything inside a folder except a specified folder via the terminal in one go?
[20:20] <chrissharp123> teemo: you might be in over your head here... - what are you needing to do?  There may be an alternative :-)
[20:20] <patx> slidinghorn, u a member?
[20:20] <blitzo> hi - i have a box that works fine with win7 but crashes often with ubuntu - it has crashed during apt-get upgrade several times and it has crashed while re-installing from the cd.  because we did get it to install and run twice i don't think it is a video driver.  any ideas?
[20:20] <JessD> Zolomon : What's the name of the folder you want to preserve?
[20:21] <teemo> im following the instruction i pasted above to install the wireless usb adapter drivers
[20:21] <diogo_79> hi
[20:21] <cheater99> ok i fixed i by running compiz
[20:21] <teemo> as i does not install automatically
[20:21] <slidinghorn> patx, everyone here is a volunteer -- same as with the forums (with the exception of channel/forum moderators)
[20:21] <Zolomon> tell jessD: "klagainte"
[20:21] <chrissharp123> teemo: have you made sure that the drivers aren't available elsewhere?  preferably in the repos?
[20:22] <teemo> repos?
[20:22] <cablop> magnetr
[20:22] <slidinghorn> patx, however, a lot of us are members of different ubuntu communities (i.e. the LoCos) and have digitally signed codes of conduct, etc, so that's about as close to being "certified" (i guess you could call it) as a member
[20:22] <JessD> Zolomon, if you do 'ls', do you see . and .. along with everything else?
[20:22] <cablop> magnetron: i never uses LVM before.... mmmm welll i'll read those guides and came with an idea
[20:22] <chrissharp123> teemo: via Ubuntu Software Center or Synaptic Package Manager
[20:22] <cheater99> thanks guys
[20:23] <cheater99> i appreciate the quick response a lot
[20:23] <cheater99> it's very important
[20:23] <blitzo> hi - i have a box that works fine with win7 but crashes often with ubuntu - it has crashed during apt-get upgrade several times and it has crashed while re-installing from the cd.  because we did get it to install and run twice i don't think it is a video driver.  any ideas?
[20:23] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: add this on your interfaces anyway you can simply remove this anytime
[20:23] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: auto eth0
[20:23] <scriptwarlock> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[20:23] <patx> slidinghorn, i need a real member, ive signed the code too
[20:23] <teemo> chrissharp123: how do i check for that?
[20:23] <slidinghorn> patx, well I'm not sure what you mean by "member"
[20:23] <io> patx: I'm a member.
[20:23] <Zolomon> tell JessD: Nope
[20:24] <io> !membership | slidinghorn
[20:24] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, I already added that
[20:24] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: have you restarted?
[20:24] <patx> io, may i pm u? i have question
[20:24] <io> patx: Go ahead.
[20:24] <slidinghorn> !thankyou io
[20:24] <JessD> Zolomon : ls | egrep -v '(klagainte)'| while read x; do rm -rf $x; done
[20:24] <JessD> Zolomon : Practice extreme caution!!
[20:24] <cryptk> without that in there all the /etc/init.d/networking restart would do if say reconfiguring interfaces with no resolution with my wired problem
[20:25] <JessD> Zolomon : Make sure you're in the right subdir when you run that!
[20:25] <Ravin1123> Hello everyone
[20:25] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: have your restarted the network? is this a builtin nic?
[20:25] <Zolomon> tell JessD: Thanks! I will be careful.
[20:25] <blitzo> hi - i have a box that works fine with win7 but crashes often with ubuntu - it has crashed during apt-get upgrade several times and it has crashed while re-installing from the cd.  because we did get it to install and run twice i don't think it is a video driver.  any ideas?
[20:25] <cryptk> It seems that the card is not starting up correctly because dmesg is reporting the mac as being BF:BF:BF:BF:BF:BF
[20:25] <JessD> Zolomon : One other, if you wanted to add more stuff to exclude
[20:25] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, yes, built in
[20:25] <magnetron> cablop, LVM is very flexible. i use LVM and created my file systems with "just enough" free space. if i need more i just grow them
[20:26] <JessD> Zolomon, pipe seperate the stuff like this : ls | egrep -v '(klagainte|this|that|the other)'| while read x; do rm -rf $x; done
[20:26] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: tried also to swap the lancables the one you are using now on irc?
[20:26] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, right now I am on wifi
[20:26] <Ravin1123> hello everyone, I'm having an issue with a lamp setup running ubuntu. I have the webserver set up and I can access it via the IP from the server, but when I try to access it from another computer, it times out and sends me to localhost. Can someone help me with this? Thanks!
[20:26] <xawan> I can't activate my wifi card broadcom :/ I tried with wlan0 up command
[20:26] <Zolomon> tell JessD: Aha, thank you!
[20:26] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  :)
[20:26] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, would a bad lan cable cause dmesg to report an incorrect mac addy?
[20:27] <JessD> Zolomon : Course, you need to escape spaces
[20:27] <blitzo> ravinl123 what times out sends you to localhost - your browser?
[20:27] <magnetron> cablop, i don't even need to reboot or unmount to grow them! you can also move the file system from one physical place to another, transparently
[20:27] <Ravin1123> yes the browser
[20:27] <teemo> chrissharp123: i searched and no, they dont seem to be in either of them
[20:27] <JessD> Zolomon : ls | egrep -v '(klagainte|this|that|the\ other)'| while read x; do rm -rf $x; done
[20:27] <Zolomon> tell JessD: Like ls | grep -v '(klagainte|this\ and\ that)' etc?
[20:27] <JessD> Zolomon : Exactly!
[20:27] <bullgard4>  /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6 in mc shows Owner: root/src even after I have re-installed all packages having "firefox" in their names. How to fix this?
[20:27] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: yes why not try other cable
[20:27] <magnetron> Ravin1123, make sure you bind it to an external interface/IP
[20:27] <cablop> magnetron: to move to another place? hot?
[20:27] <blitzo> ravinl123 use a person's nick when replying - it makes the message stand out in all this flow
[20:27] <JessD> Zolomon : I asked you about dots because
[20:27] <xawan> i got "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Error desconocido 132
[20:27] <xawan> "
[20:27] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, gimmie a second
[20:27] <magnetron> cablop, yeah
[20:28] <JessD> Zolomon If ls returned ".."
[20:28] <Ravin1123> Blitzo: sorry about that. Don't use IRC much.
[20:28] <JessD> Zolomon You would have said "rm -rf ../"
[20:28] <blitzo> hi - i have a box that works fine with win7 but crashes often with ubuntu - it has crashed during apt-get upgrade several times and it has crashed while re-installing from the cd.  because we did get it to install and run twice i don't think it is a video driver.  any ideas?
[20:28] <JessD> Zolomon : Which is _not_ good
[20:28] <Zolomon> tell JessD: That would remove everything in the folder above the current one?
[20:29] <xawan> Help :|
[20:29] <blitzo> Ravin1123 me neither, i just started yesterday.  ok i'm trying to understand your problem.  what do you mean by "it sends me to localhost" do you have a web server running on the same box you are using the browser on?
[20:29] <dad3> can someone send me a file to see if it works?
[20:29] <chrissharp123> teemo: ok - step 5 in your instructions assumes that the directory is already there (as you did).... so the fact that it's not tells me that something went wrong before...
[20:30] <JessD> Zolomon : Yep.  You either need to instruct ls not to return them or egrep them out.  Remember that this is regex, and "." is a character meaning "any single character", so dots need escaping as well..
[20:30] <JessD> Zolomon Easier to dell ls not to do that...
[20:30] <cheater99> hi again
[20:30] <Ravin1123> Blitzo When I attempt to use a browser on my Lamp server machine, the browser allows me access to the page. When I use a different computer on the network and type the IP of the computer into the browser, the browser sends me to "Localhost" instead of the actual webpage.
[20:30] <teemo> chrissharp123: i think i built make while i was in the wrong dir
[20:30] <teemo> 3> In os/linux/config.mk
[20:30] <cheater99> i noticed that the gnome panel was working because i ran compiz as root
[20:30] <disappearedng> hey I a tooltip from firefox stuck in my screen. Is there anyway to restart my screen wo restarting my computer
[20:30] <Zolomon> tell JessD: dell?
[20:31] <JessD> Zolomon : Sorry, tell.
[20:31] <cheater99> i ran it as my normal user and the gnome panel is hidden again
[20:31] <teemo> i was in the driver folder, directory
[20:31] <cheater99> the panel IS running, it's just invisible
[20:31] <magnetron> Ravin1123, do you happen to enter "127.0.0.1" as the IP?
[20:31] <cheater99> i cannot get into the compiz settings manager, what's the command for that?
[20:31] <MonsieurSalhi> is there a french chat ??
[20:31] <magnetron> !fr | MonsieurSalhi
[20:31] <nimbiotics_> hello evry1. My nvidia card died on me yesterday and i had to use another video card for a while. I just installed a new nvidia card but now compiz is not working. Any ideas? TIA!
[20:31] <Zolomon> tell JessD: Right, thanks a lot! :)
[20:31] <Ravin1123> Magnetron Sorry, I'm not using 127.0.0.1 as the ip. I'm using the static Ip I set up for the webserver.
[20:31] <teemo> chrissharp123: when i try to build from inside os/linux i get:
[20:32] <JessD> Zolomon : Quite welcome!
[20:32] <teemo> Makefile:1: /os/linux/config.mk: No such file or directory
[20:32] <teemo> make: *** No rule to make target `/os/linux/config.mk'.  Stop.
[20:32] <MonsieurSalhi> merci pour l'aide
[20:32] <Bogus8> can I tweak landscape-sysinfo to add extra partitions mounted?
[20:32] <magnetron> MonsieurSalhi, de rien
[20:32] <blitzo> Ravin1123 see if you can telnet to the ip number of the machine running the lamp on port 80.  open a terminal and type "telnet nn.nn.nn.nn 80"  if it connects type "GET /"
[20:32] <teemo> but then i never did the changes in step 3: define the GCC and LD of the target machine and define the compiler flags CFLAGS
[20:33] <cablop> magnetron: wow... well i don't know how to combine the LVM and a raid 1 thing... it sounds good enough, but... mmmm
[20:33] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, no go
[20:33] <cablop> magnetron: cause what i want is a raid 1, meaning mirroring disks
[20:34] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, the only other cable I have is the one from the modem to the router and that didn't work either
[20:34] <rhalff> hi what's the name of the default gtk theme in ubuntu ? I want to download it
[20:34] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: so i think cable is fine
[20:34] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, my wired connection works find in windows so I know the cable and the card are fine
[20:34] <Ravin1123> blitzo It seemed to connect, spit a bunch of information.
[20:35] <blitzo> Ravin1123 was that stuff the content of the page you expected to find?
[20:35] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: tried this also? sudo ifup eth0
[20:35] <Beyecixramd> PATA disks are hot-pluggable?
[20:35] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, with the entry added into /etc/networking/interfaces it gives the message I put in pastebin earlier...
[20:36] <cryptk> without that entry added it gives Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> Beyecixramd:  not that ive ever seen
[20:36] <Beyecixramd> thanks Dr_Willis
[20:36] <^Jay2^> ubuntu network connections gets dropped when downloading huge torrent. this is annoying
[20:36] <cryptk> something is keeping the card from being recognized properly, hence the dmesg output with the wrong MAC
[20:36] <savasci> good evening. i was installed ubuntu 8.04 on a partition of my drive, but grub failed to install. then i rebbot ubuntu, but this time my old windows booted. I think there is no change on MBR or related things, how to fix it? any suggesitons?
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> Beyecixramd:  that was to be a feature of the sata stuff.. but i still think that needs special hardware/software. so im not even sure thats really doable either. (at leat ive never seen it done)
[20:37] <tjor> I am running 10.04 on a usb flash drive like I did with 9.04. I forget how to configure it to shut down 'without' prompting for the user's password ! How do I do that ? Thanks
[20:37] <Beyecixramd> Dr_Willis: i prefer not to mess around, not sure if my motherboard is capable of hot swapping, i could put my entire power block, or motherboard in risk :P
[20:37] <Ravin1123> blitzo I think so, but I'm not 100%. It looks like I set up the webserver to direct to localhost somewhere. as when I type the IP of the server address when I'm on the server, it redirects to the webpage, but the address bar says http://localhost/
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> Beyecixramd:  ive seen these external usb 'things' that let you plug in a sata drive like it was a Nintendo Cartridge. :)
[20:38] <Beyecixramd> Dr_Willis: :P me too
[20:38] <teemo> chrissharp123: u still there?
[20:38] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: is this what you have now in your interfaces? auto lo
[20:38] <scriptwarlock> iface lo inet loopback
[20:38] <scriptwarlock>  
[20:38] <scriptwarlock> auto eth0
[20:38] <scriptwarlock> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[20:38] <FloodBot2> scriptwarlock: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <blitzo> Ravin1123 did you manually configure that in your apache?  it won't do that by default
[20:38] <bullgard4>  /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6 in mc shows Owner: root/src even after I have re-installed all packages having "firefox" in their names. How to fix this?
[20:38] <red> blitzo: apache doesnt
[20:38] <red> but hosts do
[20:38] <red> on lucid i had 127.0.0.1 localhost in hosts file
[20:39] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: sorry forgot.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/465591/
[20:39] <Ravin1123> blitzo I might have, but I don't know where I did it.
[20:39] <dad3> why does my wireless router show this computer as being "not connected" when obviously it is?
[20:39] <Ravin1123> I'm running lucid
[20:39] <red> try /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[20:39] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, I have that in there
[20:39] <red> after changes you need to "sudo service apache2 restart"
[20:39] <cryptk> one sec, I have an idea, brb
[20:40] <red> you could also go ask in apaches help channel #httpd (if i recall correctly)
[20:40] <tweak> hi everyone. i have a digital camera and im trying to take the picturs off it on my new pc, and the repository software doesnt work. it did on my old pc running same version of linux (ubuntu 10.04) but this version is 64 bit. any ideas?
[20:40] <chrissharp123> teemo: I think you'll have to find a way to undo what you did (somehow), then try again step by step (without skipping anything)
[20:40] <sheepz_> is it possible to determine when ubuntu was first installed on my computer? or the partition created?
[20:40] <red> tweak: if your camera is in mass storage mode you could just go browse it and manually copy
[20:40] <blitzo> Ravin1123 you can do that in a meta statement in your html and there's a way to do it in apache
[20:40] <AegNuddel> I am not getting any help where I thought I could.  Does anyone know about audacity?
[20:40] <Ravin1123> red In the httpd.conf file I have "ServerName "IP:80" And thats it
[20:40] <red> images are usually under DCIM folder in most cameras
[20:41] <red> Ravin1123: sec
[20:41] <blitzo> Ravin1123 main thing is apache is working and it is serving up pages on that ip number - telnet proves that
[20:41] <tweak> red: its a really simple camera with 2 buttons im not sure how to put it in mass storage mode ><
[20:41] <red> tweak: most usually automaticly go in such mode tho
[20:41] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, most cameras that i have delt with do mass storage mode automatically.
[20:41] <red> can you see it when you open nautilus, in the left side bar?
[20:42] <magnetron> cablop, i would use a more advanced backup system than RAID1. i'd use rdiff-backup. focus on backing up the file system, not the physical discs
[20:42] <tweak> red, Mr_Sonoma: under places its not listed like my other drives are for mounting
[20:42] <Ravin1123> blitzo I see what your saying, I just think I somehow misconfigured or typed something wrong, to make incomming connections to apache go to the wrong place or something.
[20:43] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: sometimes it gets a response by shutting down the machine and unplug the cable and wait for a couple of minutes and boot and plug later the cable after you login
[20:43] <ManDay> Help! I just started and neither my keyboard nor my mouse do function! My graphic tablet and other input devices work tho - but no keyboard no login no fun. I checked the Xorg logs and Xorg claims to have recoqnized and set up the mouse and the keyboard - no errors, no warnings! Before that happen iirc I've deleted some files out of /etc/udev/rules.d which I deemed unnessesary - Anyone any idea and can maybe help?
[20:43] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, the thing is the card is not being recognized correctly
[20:43] <bullgard4> sheepz_: Try Synaptic > File > History
[20:43] <blitzo> Ravin1123 someone mentioned an #apache channel - have u tried there?
[20:43] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, dmesg reports an incorrect MAC address
[20:43] <cryptk> [    1.046943] eth0: RTL8168c/8111c at 0xffffc90000c78000, bf:bf:bf:bf:bf:bf, XID 1c2000c0 IRQ 28
[20:44] <cryptk> see the MAFC
[20:44] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, what kind of camera?
[20:44] <cryptk> MAC
[20:44] <cryptk> bf:bf:bf:bf:bf:bf
[20:44] <Ravin1123> blitzo, I'll give that a shot. thank you
[20:44] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: can you point the right chipset of your network card      lspci
[20:44] <Ziber> Is there a way to run "sudo -u <user> -i" without having to enter a password?
[20:45] <scriptwarlock> just paste one line of the chipset of your network card see what we can do
[20:45] <tweak> mr_sonoma: says vivitar mini digital camera. no model number its just a cheap one. whats puzzling is that it worked on my old pc with ubuntu linux and now not on this one thats much newer with same distro
[20:45] <Ziber> I have my sudoers file setup so I can gain root without a password (I'm in a group that allows it)
[20:45] <cablop> magnetron: rdiff? well, what i want to backup are simple files like img and mp3, and wanted to use raid1 just to make them easier to manage, and easier to replace the fil;es, i'm just uusing and old machine and willing to make it the file repository, and put a few other things on it
[20:45] <ubuntu__> ada anak indo
[20:45] <cryptk> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[20:46] <cablop> magnetron: i also want to be able to access my linux files from windows or a live CD with not much effort... but indeed this LVM thing catched my attention
[20:46] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, ^^
[20:46] <ManDay> Help! I just started and neither my keyboard nor my mouse do function! My graphic tablet and other input devices work tho - but no keyboard no login no fun. I checked the Xorg logs and Xorg claims to have recoqnized and set up the mouse and the keyboard - no errors, no warnings! Before that happen iirc I've deleted some files out of /etc/udev/rules.d which I deemed unnessesary - Anyone any idea and can maybe help?
[20:46] <teemo> can someone help walk me through the build instructions here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/BK9hPjUy
[20:46] <Mr_Sonoma> !patience | ManDay
[20:47] <cablop> magnetron: and i don't want to exactly backup the file system... it's not a big deal for me, the data is more important and i think to dettach the disk and put in another disk is good enough... well, but i'm curios about the rdiff thing and the snapshots
[20:47] <rabbit_> fancy!
[20:47] <ManDay> Mr_Sonoma: sorry i have no feeling for time having passed, small screen huge text in irssi
[20:47] <ManDay> and this is kinda urgent
[20:48] <rabbit_> i'm trying to install icon sets that I got from gnome look, can't figure it out
[20:48] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: do you have spare nic card there? like gigabyte or linksys or similar
[20:48] <tweak> rabbit_: its very simple
[20:48] <thune3> ManDay: you are going to have to restore those files in udev. you can boot live system and extract files from udev package and copy them over.
[20:48] <ManDay> Maybe if I could get the files in etc/udev/rules.d from somewhere I could put them back and check whether this was the reason - where can I get them?
[20:48] <scaivy> i dont remenber the chanel french pls
[20:48] <tweak> tabbit_: open your appearance preferences and drag and drop the package to that window
[20:48] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, nope...
[20:48] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, are you sure your usb cable is good? your actually getting power from the USB port? i'm kinda outta ideas for you (looking at HCL) but i remember beating my head silly on a simmilar problem years back only to discover my cable had crapped out
[20:48] <scaivy> i dont remenber the chanel french pls
[20:48] <ManDay> thune3: live cd sounds ok
[20:49] <ManDay> thune3: you think those files caused that?
[20:49] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, lemme try something else
[20:49] <bullgard4>  /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6 in mc shows Owner: root/src even after I have re-installed all packages having "firefox" in their names. How to fix this?
[20:49] <ManDay> thune, i can tell you what I KEPT:
[20:49] <cryptk> brb
[20:49] <rabbit_> i tried that and it didn't work
[20:49] <savasci> good evening. i was installed ubuntu 8.04 on a partition of my drive, but grub failed to install. then i rebbot ubuntu, but this time my old windows booted. I think there is no change on MBR or related things, how to fix it? any suggesitons? (reposted for urgency)
[20:49] <tweak> rabbit_: did you select the new icons under advanced?
[20:49] <sheepz_> bullgard4: thank you
[20:49] <ManDay> thune3: well, looking at the files i think there is nothing related to keyboard left, lol
[20:49] <rabbit_> lemme try it again and see
[20:49] <_hexguy> teemo: is that a driver?
[20:50] <ManDay> thune3: im going to give it a shot thanks already
[20:50] <rabbit_> tweak: trying again
[20:50] <teemo> _hexguy: yes
[20:50] <sweetpi> ... one should not go around deleting files at random, or keyboards and mice may be deemed unnecessary
[20:50] <tweak> mr_sonoma: nah the cable is good lol.
[20:50] <_hexguy> teemo: and in what do you need help?
[20:50] <teemo> i want to install the drivers
[20:50] <scaivy> pls someone can said me the chanel for french ?
[20:50] <teemo> and i cant
[20:51] <navid> guys! what is this?: "requires installation of untrusted packages" when i try to install apps from software center
[20:51] <teemo> i cant run make
[20:51] <scaivy> pls someone can said me the chanel for french ?
[20:51] <cablop> magnetron: well, sorry to ask too much, but cause i got interested but i don't know this system and i have to create a system NOW, i want to make the best decision
[20:51] <sweetpi> !fr | scaivy
[20:51] <BluesKaj> teemo, install build-essential
[20:51] <_hexguy> teemo: whats the output?
[20:51] <teemo> make: *** No rule to make target `/os/linux/config.mk'.  Stop.
[20:51] <thune3> ManDay: you can download package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/udev and extract files: mkdir udev_extrat; dpkg -x udev_151-12_i386.deb udev_extract
[20:51] <rabbit_> tweak: where is this advanced you speak of?
[20:52] <rabbit_> tweak: lucid
[20:52] <ManDay> thune3: i got a live cd here i m just not sure whether i can easily obtain the files from there
[20:52] <ManDay> thune3: you think downloading the udev package and extracting is better?
[20:52] <tweak> rabbit_: sorry, Appearance preferences> theme> customize< icons
[20:52] <tweak> rabbit_: sorry, Appearance preferences> theme> customize> icons (correction)
[20:52] <cablop> magnetron ,  i have a single disk, i want to setup i with LVM and then when i got a second disk convert the system into raid1, can i? another question, can i mount a lvm into a new system and see this lvm or do i have to convfigure too many things?
[20:53] <thune3> ManDay: should be easier than chrooting, if you are just trying to restore a few files. The extraction will just give you the files, then you can copy them over.
[20:53] <spiky_> I,m using ZENMAP  I get 4 hosts up on my lan, when I use NMAP I only get 2 hosts up any ideas
[20:53] <rabbit_> tweak: and i should just drag it in there? it just heads out again
[20:53] <chrissharp123> +6.
[20:53] <_hexguy> teemo: where can i download that file?
[20:53] <ManDay> thune why would i chroot? i just need the files!?
[20:53] <tweak> rabbit_: its not listed under icons?
[20:54] <rabbit_> oh wait! It just worked!
[20:54] <tweak> rabbit_: there ya go :)
[20:54] <teemo> http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=downloads.doSearchCriteria&localeCode=EN_GBR&productCategory=5&modelNumber=1699&partNumber=4338&downloadType=1&knowsPartNumber=false
[20:54] <rabbit_> tweak: i don't know what i was doing wrong, thanks! :)
[20:54] <tweak> rabbit_: glad to help
[20:54] <ManDay> thune3: the rules files are not in that package! http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/udev/filelist
[20:54] <rabbit_> :)
[20:54] <thune3> ManDay: if you wanted to reinstall the package on the installed system from your livecd boot, then chroot.... but copying is easier
[20:54] <teemo> BluesKaj: i installed build essentials
[20:54] <navid> guys! what is this?: "requires installation of untrusted packages" when i try to install apps from software center
[20:54] <teemo> what next?
[20:54] <_hexguy> teemo: one sec
[20:54] <thune3> ManDay: checking
[20:55]  * motoko says hi
[20:55] <magnetron> cablop, you can see this disk and all its LVM filesystems in any OS that supports LVM. it's a little more complicated compared to an ordinary partition but that is the price you pay for having partitions that are EXACT the size you need. if you later install an extra HDD you can move, copy or grow the file system onto the new drive
[20:55] <carlos82> hello community
[20:55] <monkey_dust> !hi| motoko
[20:56] <carlos82> i have problems with audio calls in empathy
[20:56] <ManDay> thune3: I think the live cd makes it easier if you just could tell me how to obtain the files. i assume that when the live cd boots the files i need are somewhere in some zip - can I specifically extract them from it?
[20:56] <tweak> is there a way to check (in command line) what is all plugged into my usb ports
[20:56] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, I fixed it
[20:56] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: how?
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> tweak:  'lsusb'
[20:56] <motoko> tweak: lsusb ?
[20:56] <ManDay> If anyone with amd64 could send me his vanilla /etc/udev/rules.d that would also be okay
[20:56] <ManDay> CAN someone?
[20:56] <thune3> ManDay: that package has most of the rules files listed there. which one are you looking for?
[20:56] <carlos82> hello... i have problems with output sound in empathy, anyone can help me?
[20:56] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, lsusb
[20:57] <cablop> magnetron: and what happens to a disk with LVM if  it's extended to two hard disks and one just fail, hardware failure, do i lose the LVM volumes?
[20:57] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, I deleted /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules then shutdown completely and started back up
[20:57] <_hexguy> teemo: I dont understand whats the problem, i can run make without any issues
[20:57] <cryptk> had the OS regenerate the rules file and now all is good
[20:57] <teemo> inside linux/os?
[20:57] <_hexguy> teemo: are you in the directory that your supposed to be in_
[20:57] <Anonyme> hi
[20:57] <magnetron> cablop, yes. i recommend backups.
[20:57] <ZykoticK9> ManDay, /etc/udev/rules.d is a directory (on 10.04 at least)
[20:57] <Anonyme> how are you
[20:58] <_hexguy> teemo: where did you untar the file?
[20:58] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: good and please jot down onhow you did it and put it in a safe place
[20:58] <tweak> mr_sonoma: ah ok yeah it says my cam in plugged in and recognizes it /cry. so uh how do i access the pictures on it
[20:58] <teemo> _hexguy: downloads
[20:58] <ManDay> thune3: what package? the one you game me? i dont see any in http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/udev/filelist
[20:58] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, I got it off the launchpad bugs site, so it is already there
[20:58] <carlos82> hello... i have problems with output sound in empathy, anyone can help me?}
[20:58] <ManDay> ZykoticK9: i know thats what i mean
[20:58] <ManDay> i need the whole dir more or less
[20:58] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, cd or browse to that location is mounted to
[20:58] <_hexguy> teemo: did you edit everything you had to edit?
[20:58] <ManDay> how do I scroll in irssi ?
[20:59] <teemo> no
[20:59] <thune3> ManDay: the /lib/udev/rules.d/*.rules files are the ones you are talking about no?
[20:59] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: a bug? hmm dont have that kind of hardware in my cybershop... but the good thing is you found the solution
[20:59] <cablop> well, then the next queston is
[20:59] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, my cameras mount to /media i believe
[20:59] <_hexguy> ManDay: PAGE UP/DOWN
[20:59] <ManDay> thune3: indeed
[20:59] <ManDay> _hexguy: thankx
[20:59] <Jigal> hello my ubuntu doesn't come up again after update tried live cd but doesn't work either
[20:59] <teemo> _hexguy: In Makefile set the "MODE = STA"
[20:59] <Jigal> drives me nuts
[20:59] <_hexguy> teemo: thats already done
[21:00] <teemo> ok
[21:00] <tweak> mr_sonoma: maybe its not mounted just plugged in its not listed there but my other drives are
[21:00] <navid> guys! what is this?: "requires installation of untrusted packages" when i try to install apps from software center
[21:00] <cablop> i had this whole computer in ntfs... i want to switch to another filesystem, as long as o won't need ntfs anymore, but i dislike that issue on ext4 about delayed writting, i have no ups and no plan to buy one today, but i need to not to risk my files... wahat can i do?
[21:00] <kopter> Hi, I most of the time watch clips on youtube, mainly listen to music and therefore use adobe flash...non free software, by any chance gnash supports youtube clips?
[21:00] <teemo> _hexguy: define the GCC and LD of the target machine
[21:00] <teemo> in step 3
[21:00] <mgolisch> cablop: make backups?
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  use ext3 if you  want.
[21:00] <mgolisch> thats how you protect important files
[21:01] <noway777> I have 2 NIC configured to work on two different LAN. Both are active at start-up and the flag says that they are both active all the time. The problem is that if I use a LAN the other become unavailable, and  the network manager says that both are ON. Then if I switch of the one that don't work and I re-activate it I can go to the other LAN w/o any problem, but the LAN that was browsable...
[21:01] <noway777> ...just before to re-activate the second NIC dont browse anymore. To browse I have to re-activate the 1st NIC.  Any Idea?
[21:01] <cablop> mgolisch: i can't make a hot backup of svn files on runtime
[21:01] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, seems like it
[21:01] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, have you tried to mount it?
[21:01] <thune3> ManDay: they are in there. i don't understand why you can't see them in the list. unless you are talking about one not in there.
[21:01] <carlos82> how can change between pulse and alsa in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:01] <tweak> mr_sonoma: sadly i dont know how
[21:01] <ManDay> erm thune3 wait ill look again, am i possibly blind..
[21:01] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: now your using the lan?
[21:02] <carlos82> how can i change between pulse and alsa audio in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:02] <_hexguy> teemo: do you have the kernel sources installed?
[21:02] <mgolisch> no idea why would you need to?
[21:02] <ManDay> thune3: im a 100% positive that the only file of /etc/udev/rules listed in there is /etc/udev/rules.d/README
[21:02] <teemo> _hexguy: i have no idea
[21:02] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, lol been a while since i tried mounting anything from command line. maybe someone more familar with that command can help you. In the mean time i'll look it up and try to find you a good howto
[21:02] <kopter> Hi, I most of the time watch clips on youtube, mainly listen to music and therefore use adobe flash...non free software, by any chance gnash supports youtube clips?
[21:02] <ManDay> thune3: do you see something else?
[21:03] <thune3> ManDay: scroll down a 100 lines
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> kopter:  youtube is supposed to be supporting HTML5 now. If your browser can handle it.
[21:03] <tweak> mr_sonoma: ah ok thank you
[21:03] <ManDay> thune3: nothing, no more files from /etc
[21:03] <_hexguy> teemo: ok lets try
[21:03] <tweak> mr_sonoma: Bus 003 Device 003: ID 093a:010e Pixart Imaging, Inc. Digital camera, CD302N/Elta Medi@ digi-cam/HE-501A under lsusb
[21:03] <ManDay> is this a misunderstanding?
[21:03] <_hexguy> teemo: alt+f2 and type gnome-terminal
[21:04] <kopter> Dr_Willis,  Ohh so no more need of flash, good point
[21:04] <carlos82> how can i change between pulse and alsa audio in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:04] <ManDay> thune3: are you maybe looking at some other page?
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> kopter:  Yep. Down with Flash :)
[21:04] <teemo> ok
[21:04] <thune3> Manday: are you sure you aren't looking for /lib/udev/rules.d/*.rules
[21:04] <Jigal> which bootloader do i need when updating ubuntu fails?
[21:04] <cablop> which one is better reiserfs and ext3?
[21:04] <_hexguy> teemo: navigate to the directory where the driver is untar
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  depends on you rneeds.. I would stick with ext3 - unless you have some verys pecial needs
[21:05] <ManDay> thune3: yes i am sure
[21:05] <cablop> did reiserfs lose support?
[21:05] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, which bowsers can do html5 ?
[21:05] <cryptk> scriptwarlock, indeed, I am on the LAN
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj:  googles browser. and i think the latest opera and that beta of ff. but ive not tested those
[21:05] <ManDay> thune3: check on your system /etc/udev/rules.d
[21:05] <ManDay> i have some here on my 32b too
[21:06] <Jigal> which bootloader do i need when updating ubuntu fails?
[21:06] <scriptwarlock> cryptk: k thats nice enjoy...
[21:06] <tweak> jigal: grub
[21:06] <ManDay> Does anyone here have a 64b system and can check his /etc/udev/rules.d for how many files are in there?
[21:06] <BluesKaj> ok cool, Dr_Willis , y default is google-chrome , chromium began get buggy so i switched
[21:06] <BluesKaj> my
[21:06] <teemo> ok
[21:06] <_hexguy> teemo: what's the output of echo $PWD >
[21:07] <_hexguy> teemo: what's the output of echo $PWD ?*
[21:07] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, i may have just remembered a graphical way for you to try. go to system, administration, disk utility and see if your camera shows on the left there. click on it then click mount on the right. (be aware i'm not familar with your exact camera or what the result will be if it isn't in mass storage mode)
[21:07] <happyface> how do I "mount -o loop *.img /mnt" and specify which partition in the .img to mount?
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  ---> 0-vboxdrv.rules  70-persistent-cd.rules  70-persistent-net.rules  85-yshid.rules  README
[21:07] <ManDay> Dr_Willis: thanks a lot
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> happyface:  you have to use the 'offset' feature of mount i recall.
[21:07] <ManDay> I dont think its my removal of these files then, thune3
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> happyface:  i saw a guide on it once...
[21:07] <ManDay> Let me repeat my question
[21:08] <happyface> Dr_Willis: ah that's what I was thinking... I wonder how to find that
[21:08] <spiky_> I,m using ZENMAP  I get 4 hosts up on my lan, when I use NMAP I only get 2 hosts up any ideas
[21:08] <navid> Dr_Willis: hi. could u plz help me install tor?
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> happyface:  fdisk -l on the file i recall.. and then  figure otu the #'s from there
[21:08] <teemo> _hexguy: /home/tamer/Downloads/DPO_RT3070_LinuxSTA_V2.3.0.2_20100412 chips common In include iwpriv_usage.txt LICENSE ralink-firmware.txt Makefile os README_STA_usb RT2870STACard.dat RT2870STA.dat sta sta_ate_iwpriv_usage.txt tools
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> navid:  theres some tor ubuntu wiki page that details it.. I dont find tor worth the effort.
[21:08] <_hexguy> teemo: type make then enter
[21:09] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[21:09] <navid> Dr_Willis: if you live in iran u don't say that
[21:09] <teemo> cp: cannot remove `/tftpboot': Permission denied
[21:09] <teemo> ill sudo
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> navid:  dont trust tor.
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> navid:  good luck.
[21:09] <teemo> ok done
[21:09] <navid> Dr_Willis: thanx by the way
[21:09] <_hexguy> teemo: did it work?
[21:09] <cablop> Dr_Willis: well, my special needs are just, i had this errors in the past, like losing files or deleting partitions by mistake and needing to recover files from the disk surface, lol, i don't know if it's easy to recover files from ext3 or reiserfs or ext2 in that case... this is my main concern bout partitions
[21:10] <teemo> _hexguy: no errors
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  deleting partitions by mistake?  Hmmm......
[21:10] <_hexguy> teemo: then you're done compiling
[21:10] <_hexguy> teemo: good luck with the rest
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  its hard to 'lock down'  mistakes like that.
[21:10] <tweak> mr_sonoma: it recognized my camera and is mounted i guess but hmm cant access it
[21:10] <ManDay> thune3: thanks, by the way
[21:10] <teemo> !
[21:11] <teemo> i already completed that
[21:11] <cablop> Dr_Willis: hehe, just put windows an linux in the same disk and you start to see how easy is to let windows kill your system
[21:11] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, at what location is it mounted?
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  that BTRFS is supposed to have some sort of 'go back' feature.. but ive never used it.
[21:11] <teemo> i got stuck on step 6
[21:12] <_hexguy> teemo: thought you said the problem was with make
[21:12] <tweak> mr_sonoma: under location it just says -
[21:12] <teemo> well i did what u said b4, the make worked fine
[21:12] <tweak> mr_sonoma: but no option to mount
[21:13] <teemo> but i got stuck @ step 6, so i assumed i was building the wrong makefile
[21:13] <teemo> that i was supposed to build the one inside os/linux
[21:13] <teemo> that i couldnt make
[21:13] <_hexguy> teemo: one sec
[21:13] <TMK> has the NSA cracked skype yet?
[21:14] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, cant say i've ever seen that.....
[21:14] <tweak> mr_sonoma: lol
[21:15] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[21:15] <froschi> why has the movie player no dvd source package and cannot find one either?
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> dvd source package?
[21:15] <_hexguy> teemo: ok you need to locate the rt2870sta.ko file
[21:16] <_hexguy> teemo: which should be under os/linux/
[21:16] <Mr_Sonoma> tweak, does it give you the option to unmount, then possibly remount it
[21:16] <Akkernight> I'm trying to install Ubuntu, and I've set my partitions up with GParted, but it doesn't seem to work to just specify the wanted partition for Ubuntu manually
[21:16] <teemo> ok
[21:16] <_hexguy> teemo: got it?
[21:16] <ROMEO_> Hey guys need some help i have a hdd partition into 3 they are ntfs now for some reason i can only see 2 of them i cant see the other and i need to ass most of my exes,mp3's etc are on the partition
[21:17] <teemo> yeah
[21:17] <froschi> Dr_Willis: yes. it's "searching plugin packages", then "no packages [...] found" "the requested plugins are: DVD source"
[21:17] <Akkernight> it says "No root file system is defined."
[21:17] <_hexguy> teemo: now do sudo insmod rt2870sta.ko
[21:17] <froschi> Dr_Willis: this is a fresh 10.4 install
[21:18] <teemo> ok
[21:18] <_hexguy> teemo: done?
[21:19] <teemo> yeah
[21:19] <_hexguy> teemo: should me loaded then
[21:19] <_hexguy> teemo: should be* loaded then
[21:19] <navid> guys! what is this?: "requires installation of untrusted packages" when i try to install apps from software center
[21:22] <_hexguy> teemo: any luck?
[21:23] <navid> guys! what is this?: "requires installation of untrusted packages" when i try to install apps from software center
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> froschi:  you may need the multiverse repo enabled. I use vlc or mplayer for my dvd needs
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> navid:  just a guess - the gpg or whatever keys are not installed properly. or you got some extra unoffical repos/ppa's enabled with out the keys
[21:24] <teemo> _hexguy: thank you very much man
[21:24] <teemo> may i ask u a question?
[21:24] <erUSUL> !gpgerr
[21:24] <_hexguy> teemo: tell me
[21:25] <teemo> how did u figure out the last step?
[21:25] <teemo> the missing step?
[21:25] <navid> Dr_Willis: unchecked all reposes but still the same
[21:25] <Bluh> Hello everyone, I just got Ubuntu installed and really the only things I have done is to use the update manger and to install a driver for my wireless, is there anything else I should do?
[21:25] <teemo> its nowhere in the instructions
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> Bluh:  anything else you shold do - to do what?
[21:26] <froschi> Dr_Willis: yeah, something like that. i'd use vlc, only the sound is choppy for no obvous reason :/ ... and mplayer, i don't know why synaptic wouldn't find it.... trying again
[21:26] <_hexguy> teemo: you mean the sudo insmod? it says it there, just that instead of using sbin/insmod i used insmod
[21:26] <lcuk>  bluenjoy the awesomeness
[21:26] <lcuk> Bluh, ^
[21:26] <ManDay> First question: Is it normal that X reverts to low graphics mode and has display errors and low res if some additional input devices (3d mouse, tablet) which are specified in the xorg.conf are not plugged in?
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> froschi:  i tend to use 'smplayer' these days. or the latest vlc from the ppa's
[21:26] <ManDay> sorry
[21:26] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[21:27] <FloodBot2> ManDay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:27] <^Jay2^> how to rename all files with zip to cbr
[21:28] <erUSUL> ^Jay2^: if all the zip files are in the same folder ... --> rename 's/\.zip/\.cbr/g' *.zip
[21:28] <Odd-rationale> I just removed a PPA, and I was wondering whither there was an easy way to downgrade all packages to the one in the repositories. Thanks!
[21:28] <teemo> well thank you very much, again, i am now connected wirelessly thanks 2 you
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  theres a program out called 'ppapurge' but ivbe never used it
[21:28] <BluesKaj> jayne, why rename , just use unp to open them
[21:28] <teemo> my first day on linux
[21:28] <BluesKaj> oops , I mean jay2
[21:28] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Willis: is there some apt-get command?
[21:29] <^Jay2^> erUSUL: is it ok for you to explain the command? in windows all i do is rename *.zip *.cbr
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> ^Jay2^:  theres the rename command, or use some other bulk renamer tools that are in the repos.
[21:29] <teemo> now to figure out how to get audio working on skype :)
[21:29] <_hexguy> teemo: welcome ^^
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  not that ive ever seen
[21:29] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Willis: ok thanks.
[21:29] <BluesKaj> ^Jay2^, use unp to open them , no need to rename
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  thus the need for that 'ppapurge' tool
[21:29] <Bluh> Dr_Willis: Well what I mean is should I go find a firewall, do other updates that I don't know about, etc.
[21:29] <^Jay2^> BluesKaj: unp?
[21:29] <erUSUL> ^Jay2^: just replaces .zip for .cbr in all the filenames
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Bluh
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> i would sart with reading that manual Bluh , and doing a update/upgrade of the system to be sure its up to date
[21:30] <BluesKaj> !unp | ^Jay2^
[21:30] <erUSUL> !info unp
[21:30] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Willis: problem is, i already removed the ppa. i'm just left with the packages. doesn't seem like ppa-purge will help now... guess I'll have to do it by hand...
[21:30] <BluesKaj> !info unp | ^Jay2^
[21:31] <^Jay2^> ummm
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  go read about ppapurge.. i think thats how its designed to work
[21:31] <^Jay2^> im happy how the cbr works
[21:31] <^Jay2^> but cant understand this rename 's/\.zip/\.cbr/g' *.zip
[21:31] <^Jay2^> what does  's/\.zip/\.cbr/g' *.zip this means
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> ^Jay2^:  regular expressions 101.   'replace zip with cbr' globally
[21:32] <erUSUL> ^Jay2^: you call do the same with only the shell and mv « for file in *.zip; do mv -- "$file" "${file%.zip}".cbr ; done »
[21:32] <^Jay2^> now am more confused lol
[21:32] <^Jay2^> i need to read the manual for rename
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> ^Jay2^:  time to go read up and learn regular expressions also...  :) they are a POWERFULL tool used by many commands and programs
[21:33] <^Jay2^> Dr_Willis: any link for that regular expressions
[21:33] <Svendbenno> Hi. Can somebody tell me, how i modify the "places"-menu/dock?
[21:33] <hiexpo> nice guys finish last
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> ^Jay2^:  that same   's/\.zip/\.cbr/g'    will also do the same replacement in VI and other editors.
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> !regrexp
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> ^Jay2^:  id have to say hit google for some tutorials. I bought a book on the topic ages ago. :)
[21:34] <cablop> well, my oirc crashed so i lost the answer
[21:34] <cablop> mmm
[21:34] <cablop> i ansked if reiserfs lost support after... well, you know...
[21:35] <erUSUL> ^Jay2^: the *.zip is there so the command applies to all the zip files in the current dir. s/word/replace/g does just that replace any word you find with the replace. you want to replace .zip with .cbr . you have to put the \ becouse th . is a special char in regex
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  you dont hear about it as much as you used to.. BTRFS is the big 'next thing' :)
[21:35] <Zelozelos> can someone tell me how to get  libgettextlib-0.18.1.so??
[21:36] <^Jay2^> erUSUL: am slowly getting it. but what is regex
[21:36] <^Jay2^> !regex
[21:37] <monkey_dust> ^Jay2^, check Full Circle Issue 21 for formatting output => http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/full_circle_overview.html
[21:37] <^Jay2^> does \ means * in windows? a wildcard?
[21:37] <gfather> hello guys
[21:37] <erUSUL> ^Jay2^: http://www.regular-expressions.info/
[21:37] <crux000> Question for the room: anyone know why the @#$#@$#@$#@$#@ booting off a 10.04 usb (created with usb-creator) would randomly decide to use one of the drives in the system as SWAP???????
[21:38] <blitzo> gfather ur back, u'll be a regular b4 long
[21:38] <gfather> after doing full format and using entire disk , some old applications still exist , so whats the trik here
[21:38] <gfather> blitzo: :D
[21:38] <blitzo> cux000 that is bizarre, what happened?
[21:39] <vlt_mob> Hello. How can I szart vlc from cli and tell it not to use pulse but alsa directly instead?
[21:39] <cablop> dr_|willbtrf never heard about it
[21:39] <blitzo> crux000 that is bizarre what happened
[21:39] <_hexguy> crux000: omg
[21:39] <crux000> blitzo: short version is it completely shat upon the raid array I was trying to back up
[21:39] <gfather> blitzo: i have a windows , i have a mac, but i dont why i i just love ubuntu , there is something that always make me comes back for ubuntu
[21:40] <crux000> blitzo: sequence of events was to boot from USB, then installed mdadm to get the array up. Then mdadm started giving errors that indicated one of the drives was in use.... cue a but of fuser & cat /proc/swap, then much cursing
[21:40] <blitzo> crux000 i have no answers but i am interested in the question
[21:41] <crux000> s/bit/but
[21:41] <bullgard4>  /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6 in mc shows Owner: root/src even after I have re-installed all packages having "firefox" in their names. How to fix this?
[21:43] <crux000> The partition that 10.04 decided to use as swap was marked as linux-raid-autodetect in its partition table
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> bullgard4:  sudo chown root.root /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6  is one way
[21:44] <blitzo> crux000 then i will avoid usb-creator until i figure out how it works - thx for heads up
[21:45] <blitzo> crux000 sorry i can't help
[21:45] <crux000> blitzo: It may well be an issue with the livecd code, too....
[21:45] <crux000> <--- trying to decide just how much profanity to include in the bug report
[21:45] <blitzo> crux000 the livecd doesn't arbitraily use partitions for swap, in fact it doesn't use any swap...
[21:45] <gfather> so any one know why after "Use the entire disk."  step , applications still exist ?
[21:46] <crux000> blitzo: No kidding. ;) That's why I was using it. (Well that and the machine isn't booting.)
[21:46] <Oer> what applications, gfather ?
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  in some cases a ssytem needs to be rebooted to see partion changes to a hard drive.
[21:47] <gfather> Oer: applications from previews installation
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  that was common ages past. not so common these days
[21:47] <gfather> Dr_Willis: after doing a new ubuntu install and using the entire disk step , ??
[21:47] <bullgard4> Dr_Willis: Yes indeed. --  Thank you.
[21:47] <Oer> so name one application gfather ?
[21:48] <gfather> tvheadend
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  ive seen where if you reparittion a disk, fdisk will print a message about how the old disk table layout is still in use..   but thats not so common these4 days.. when in doubt.. try a reboot. or just delete all the partitions and then reboot. and make them  after you reboot/restart the installer
[21:49] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Willis: fyi, ppa-purge only works if you currently have the ppa in your repo list. otherwise you have to do it all by hand. thanks for the tip though. i will be sure to use that next time.
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  we are still not really clear on what you are 'seeing' thatz staying around.
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  so re add the ppa :)
[21:50] <gfather> Dr_Willis: application called tvheadend
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> Odd-rationale:  i also saw a 'ppasearch' tool the other day it seasrches the listingof all ppa's for programs/packages
[21:50] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Willis: :/ didn't think of that!
[21:51] <Oer> gfather, tvheadend is a part of xbmc ?
[21:51] <Rolotony> Hello
[21:51] <gfather> Oer: no , but it you install it as an addon
[21:52] <Rolotony> I'm trying to Compile irss from source and I'm having problems geting perl to link the libraries
[21:53] <crux000> blitzo, or anyone: Where do I go on launchpad.net to place my profanity-filled bug report?
[21:53] <rocker2344> i always hate doing this, as soon as i join i ask for help but....
[21:53] <rocker2344> non of my comps can see my harddrive
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  You are saying You booted to the live cd.. installed somthing.. and are now installing to the HD? or what exactly?
[21:53] <crux000> rocker2344: is the webcam plugged in? (/smartass answer)
[21:53] <rocker2344> well i kinda, it just cant format it or access it
[21:54] <rocker2344> and crux000 very funny
[21:54] <gfather> Dr_Willis: no , i installed ubuntu , then compiled tvheadend on it
[21:54] <BluesKaj> rocker2344, inboard or outboard ?
[21:54] <bp0> I can't mount a floppy disk in ubuntu, whats the problem?
[21:54] <rocker2344> external over usb
[21:54] <crux000> rocker2344: when you say 'see'... as in show up in the Computer, or not at all (e.g. no /dev entry, if you know what that means?)
[21:55] <rocker2344> gparted does not see it
[21:55] <rocker2344> natulius does not see it
[21:55] <gfather> Dr_Willis then reinstalled ubuntu with using the entire disk step , and tvheadend is still there
[21:55] <extremist> rocker2344: Are all your comps running Ubuntu?
[21:55] <rocker2344> but running dd writes stuff to it
[21:55] <crux000> what does it show up as in dmesg when you plug it in?
[21:55] <rocker2344> most, cant  get parents to switch
[21:55] <Oer> gfather, so you wonder why tvheadend show up, after compiling it ?
[21:55] <urlwallace> my system completely crashed (ubuntu amd 64bit) error msg "could not access root to start files"  "kernal panic"  . I want to learn from this, any idea how this happens?
[21:55] <rocker2344> i tried useing windows, it does not see it. even mac
[21:56] <erUSUL> rocker2344: the disk died ?. check dmesg « dmesg | grep -E '(ata|sd)' | less »
[21:56] <urlwallace> I did full reinstall
[21:56] <gfather> Oer: no, why its showing up , after reinstalling ubuntu and formatting the hd
[21:56] <BluesKaj> rocker2344, what file system is it , ntfs ...?
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  You kept your home dir?/settings ?
[21:56] <extremist> rocker2344: From what you describe it sounds like the disk is failing/ed.
[21:57] <urlwallace> gfather , the crash gave me the message when I tried to boot, it would not so I reinstalled
[21:57] <gfather> Dr_Willis: what do you mean by that
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  did you keep your home direcotry/ and setting files and restored them? where is this program 'at' on the system also.
[21:57] <urlwallace> I could not access anything
[21:57] <gfather> Dr_Willis: no i didnt restore anything
[21:58] <rocker2344> i will runn that command, forgive me if my responces are few and far between
[21:58] <urlwallace> I apologize 2 threads going at once
[21:58] <rocker2344> i am no where near home
[21:58] <rocker2344> XD ssh ftw
[21:59] <Oer> gfather, then 'sudo fdisk -l ' should give the answer, would you post it at paste.ubuntu.com ?
[21:59] <gfather> yeah sure
[22:00] <Oer> maybe entire disk is not succeed
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> or its somehow using his old /home
[22:00] <rocker2344> it was ntfs
[22:00] <rocker2344> idk what it is now crux000
[22:00] <xomp> hello, how can I determine the largest file on ubuntu via the console?
[22:00] <Oer> yes Dr_Willis but then he would know this
[22:01] <crux000> rocker2344: I wasn't paying attention to the channel.... did you paste in what dmesg had to say?
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> Oer:  im not sure  hes just just did some mistake really. :) but its hard to tell
[22:02] <gfather> Oer: Dr_Willis http://paste.ubuntu.com/465616/
[22:02] <rocker2344> crux000: not yet
[22:03] <rocker2344> it putout a lot of info
[22:03] <rocker2344> i mught get flood kicked
[22:03] <gfather> Dr_Willis: Oer in any case , i want to reformat and just make sure that nothing left from any previous versions
[22:03] <rocker2344> >_<
[22:03] <crux000> rocker: use pastebin
[22:03] <rocker2344> ok
[22:03] <Oer> gfather fdisk is oke
[22:03] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[22:04] <rocker2344> http://pastebin.com/UFLWaaFe
[22:04] <rocker2344> there u go crux000
[22:04] <gfather> Oer: any how to make sure after formatting nothing will be left
[22:04] <Oer> gfather, when you enter the part: partitioning, manually delete all partitions, confirm it to write to disk, then go back to partitioning
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  then do so. :) use fdisk. delete all parittions.. reboot - let theinstaller do it
[22:04] <crux000> rocker2344: what's "fdisk -l /dev/sda" say?
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  be sure to 'apply changes' or 'write changes' when doing partitioning of disks
[22:05] <crux000> (needs a 'sudo', btw)
[22:05] <rocker2344> crux000: sda is my main harddrive
[22:05] <rocker2344> my external has issues
[22:06] <gfather> Dr_Willis: Oer , can i use xp cd to formate to ntfs , restart , then put ubuntu back and let it use intire disk , this way i make sure nothing will be left ? :)
[22:06] <rocker2344> so sdb?
[22:06] <crux000> rocker2344: whoops, was reading too quick.
[22:06] <thune3> xomp: you can use find to show files larger than a specified size, which could get you what you want (ignnroe sys dev kcore): find / -size +100M -printf "%-12s %p\n" 2>/dev/null
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  why are you bothering with NTFS at all?
[22:06] <crux000> rocker2344: try 'dmesg | tail -f' then unplug & re-add the usb drive -- does anything get printed out when you plug it in?
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  delete teh partitions, restart the installer.
[22:07] <gfather> Dr_Willis: ok then
[22:07] <rocker2344> crux000: http://pastebin.com/GDRNLNj8
[22:07] <Oer> :-)
[22:07] <rocker2344> that is the fdksi command
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> gfather:  mkfs.ext3 the things now if you wanted to...
[22:07] <rocker2344> i am not home atm
[22:08] <crux000> rocker2344: your dmesg didn't contain any mentions of finding sdb, so you're probably just looking at an empty file / disconnected device node? with fdisk... (quickly leaving stuff I'm comfortable with)
[22:09] <rocker2344> but nothing sees this harddrive. windows nor nix systems
[22:09] <crux000> rocker2344: it's as if its power cable was disconnected :)
[22:09] <rocker2344> it has power
[22:10] <rocker2344> trust me, will be home soon
[22:10] <happyface> how do I find my nvidia card's vendor ID?
[22:10] <crux000> rocker2344: there's "seeing" and then there's seeing: even a fairly corrupt drive will usually get picked up one way or another in the kernel messages when it's plugged in
[22:10] <crux000> mind doing a pastebin of the full dmesg (no grepping)?
[22:10] <rocker2344> ok what is the command again?
[22:10] <gfather> Dr_Willis: Oer , thanks allot for the help , ill try to sleep today get some rest , yesterday only slept for 3 hours, and start testing tomorrow and see how it goes, hope every thing will be fine, thanks again :D
[22:10] <crux000> rocker: dmesg
[22:11] <gfather> have a good night
[22:11] <crux000> you can do "sudo dmesg > /home/rocker2344/Desktop/dmesg.txt" if you want
[22:11] <Oer> gfather have fun :-)
[22:11] <rocker2344> wow so much crap that i cant copy it
[22:11] <gfather> :)
[22:12] <rocker2344> oh
[22:12] <crux000> rocker: I gave you a command (you'll have to edit in your username) that puts it all into a file on your desktop
[22:13] <edju> installed songbird (yes, yes, i know) and runs fine except it won't play any shoutcast streams.  any advice appreciated.
[22:14] <BluesKaj> edju, vlc will play shoutcast
[22:15] <rocker2344> crux000: just got home, the harddrive is connected to usb and power and the write protect switch is off
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> !info tunapie
[22:15] <ROMEO_> guys need help a shorcut isnt showing to one of my drives so i have to add a command then go to mnt anyway to add shortcut to computer?
[22:15] <crux000> rocker2344: unplug it from the computer, run "dmesg | tail -f", then plug it in. Any *new* lines that happened at the same time you plug it in?
[22:16] <rocker2344> one sec this comp is not a gui desktop it runs the server edition
[22:16] <Jordan_U> crux000: dmesg | tail -f won't work as you are thinking it will.
[22:16] <crux000> Jordan_U: drat
[22:16] <ManDay> !fonts
[22:16] <crux000> Jordan_U: what I get for going off the top of my head
[22:17] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[22:17] <jhamlsaidhfodsj> how do I set gnome to switch workspaces when a window edge crosses over?
[22:17] <slinkeey> Hello
[22:18] <crux000> rocker2344: I was wrong with the dmesg... "tail -f /var/log/messages" should give what you want, though.
[22:18] <rocker2344> ok i will try that and here is the command sudo dmesg > http://pastebin.com/2cFAZFEz
[22:19] <purvesh> which is the wiki.ubuntu.com irc channel ?
[22:19] <An_Ony_Moose> is there a way to check NTFS partitions for errors? fsck returns an error about fsck.ntfs-3g not being found
[22:19] <Jordan_U> An_Ony_Moose: Unfortunately no.
[22:19] <slinkeey> I am trying to get a ppp connection working, but for some reason It shows up in ifconfig and my routes, but I am not able to get anywhere by DNS or IP address.  Is there anything I am missing or can test.. Here is my ifconfig output..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/465622/
[22:20] <capon> hi all! I need some help if somebody can help me  http://textbin.com/y1125
[22:20] <An_Ony_Moose> Jordan_U, would running chkdisk in wine make sense?
[22:20] <rocker2344> with the tail command i got this to pop up crux000
[22:21] <Jordan_U> An_Ony_Moose: No.
[22:21] <rocker2344> Jul 18 17:20:37 home-server kernel: [ 6485.248203] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
[22:21] <rocker2344> Jul 18 17:20:37 home-server kernel: [ 6485.381461] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[22:21] <crux000> rocker2344: was that it? ... try with a known good USB storage device (another drive, or a thumbdrive) and you should see more.
[22:22] <rocker2344> ok
[22:22] <rocker2344> yeah thoese 2 lines where it. i put a thumbdrive in and it gave me more than the harddrive
[22:23] <crux000> rocker2344: there's usually some entries about recognizing a mass storage device and assigning it to /dev/sdb (or sdc, etc)
[22:23] <slinkeey> I am trying to get a ppp connection working, but for some reason It shows up in ifconfig and my routes, but I am not able to get anywhere by DNS or IP address.  Is there anything I am missing or can test.. Here is my ifconfig output..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/465622/
[22:23] <crux000> I'm guessing there's something badly wrong with the drive or with the enclosure
[22:23] <rocker2344> the usb thumb drive was put to sdb
[22:24] <rocker2344> but the external harddrive did nothing
[22:24] <rocker2344> other than notice that it was connected
[22:24] <crux000> rocker2344: Yup. Hence.... I'm guessing there's something busted with it.
[22:24] <rocker2344> so just get a new harddrive?
[22:24] <trevor_> is there a way to format drives like there is in windows?
[22:24] <ManDay> When X starts neither my keyboard nor my mouse function - other input devices such as a tablet do tho. Xorg.log has no mention of errors and claims that both mouse and keyboard have been recognized - can anyone help me figuring out what is going on (keyboard and mouse work fine in SU mode and are propery mounted by udev)
[22:25] <rocker2344> unless i want to mess with the hd hardware XD
[22:25] <crux000> rocker2344: if the stuff on there is super important you can try moving it to a different enclosure to make sure it's the drive that's dead (and not the USB case around it)
[22:25] <Kangarooo> how to reset mixer? i think ist alsa mixer.. just installed and made wrong configuration for sound
[22:25] <rocker2344> the external has e-sata
[22:25] <rocker2344> but the only comp that had that is now dead
[22:25] <rocker2344> the mobo fried
[22:25] <BluesKaj> rocker2344, if 2 different OSs don't "see" the drive , it's most likely become corrupted and inaccessible either software-wise or physically broken
[22:26] <rocker2344> ok
[22:26] <crux000> BluesKaj: I'm guessing physically broken, either the drive itself or the enclosure.... rocker2344: if you have a system with SATA on the inside, it's the same thing as eSATA
[22:26] <crux000> (if you wanted to crack a case and hook it up)
[22:26] <crux000> (just to rule it out)
[22:26] <LordVorp_> so I got me a nice nVidia card, and I got the proprietary drivers installed painlessly.  However, watching youtube videos in fullscreen is still, well, pathetic.  What should I check or try?
[22:26] <rocker2344> only 1 desktop in my house
[22:26] <slinkeey> I am trying to get a ppp connection working, but for some reason It shows up in ifconfig and my routes, but I am not able to get anywhere by DNS or IP address.  Is there anything I am missing or can test.. Here is my ifconfig output..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/465622/
[22:26] <rocker2344> the rest are laptops
[22:27] <rocker2344> none of the laptops have an easyly accesable sata or esata
[22:27] <crux000> rocker2344: bummer
[22:27] <rocker2344> i know
[22:27] <rocker2344> damn modern cases
[22:27] <rocker2344> with no screws
[22:27] <crux000> rocker2344: USB enclosures are cheap;
[22:27] <rabbit_> hi
[22:27] <crux000> rocker2344: also cheap are PCMCIA eSATA adapters for laptops
[22:27] <rocker2344> well the tb is built like an apple device
[22:27] <rocker2344> no screws all metal
[22:28] <rocker2344> idk how i am able to take it apart
[22:28] <cablop> wow
[22:28] <cablop> that btrfs sounds so nice
[22:28] <cablop> but
[22:28] <cablop> do anybody know a tagged filesystem?
[22:28] <Jordan_U> slinkeey: You don't actually have a default gateway.
[22:28] <BluesKaj> crux000, yeah opening the case if one is careful can sometimes show a problem, some of these drives can become detached and if slid back into place will work again
[22:28] <rocker2344> well thanks for the help
[22:28] <rocker2344> i will idle
[22:29] <crux000> BluesKaj: I'm aware of it. ;) Dealing with corruption caused by a bad caddy in a raid system right now.
[22:29] <rabbit_> i accidentally removed my internet icon from the panel, I right click and add to get it back, but where is it?
[22:29] <rabbit_> what's it called?
[22:29] <rabbit_> the little wireless or whatever icon
[22:29] <crux000> (said corruption made MUCH worse by a thumbdrive boot deciding to use one of the drives for swap. :( )
[22:29]  * BluesKaj nods at crux000
[22:29] <cablop> crux000:  damn!
[22:30] <spiky_> rabbit_: add notification area
[22:30] <erUSUL> rabbit_: alt + f2 run nm-applet
[22:30] <crux000> cablop: I'm writing up an email to new@bugs.launchpad.org right now.
[22:30] <crux000> Trying to avoid profanity is difficult.
[22:30] <cablop> what was your bug?
[22:30] <cablop> just to avoid it
[22:31] <cablop> crux000: ?
[22:31] <crux000> cablop: Booted 10.04 off a usb stick (used usb-creator to get it there) ... installed mdadm, tried to get the array back up... got file in use errors on /dev/sde2..... ran fuser, saw that somehow the kernel was using it for swap.
[22:31] <kimf> What is the best UPnP server at the moment? Still mediatomb? Or something else that is faster/better?
[22:31] <BluesKaj> rabbit_,look in applications for network manager right click add to panel
[22:31] <rabbit_> spiky: thanks that's it! :) :x
[22:31] <crux000> cablop: NO idea what the bug is (uuid collision?) ... but it was a very very very shitty thing to uncover
[22:31] <cablop> damn
[22:32] <cablop> i got used to revert the grub and many other things to the old way
[22:32] <crux000> thankfully I'd only been using the system for like 10 min ... there's still a filesystem there; we'll see how much I can dump off.
[22:32] <cablop> maybe you was using some filesytem similar to one of solaris
[22:32] <cablop> i heard solaris and linux confuse swap partitions due to... to something i didn't read that time
[22:32] <crux000> cablop: All the partitions were marked with FS linux-raid-autodetect
[22:33] <cablop> well... now i'm unsure on using raid in my system...
[22:33] <crux000> (inside the raid array was an LVM setup; then inside that was XFS, which I guess was the hot thing when I built this a few years ago?)
[22:33] <red2kic> kimf: I find uShare working just fine.
[22:33] <crux000> cablop: I'm pretty sure the fault lies with the liveCD or the translation into a live-thumbdrive.
[22:34] <demonspork> yo crossie
[22:34] <Cross2four> Hi demonspork
[22:34] <slow-motion> n8
[22:35] <kimf> red2kic: Thanks, i'll take a look :)
[22:37] <rocker2344> crux000: it was a hardware issue. the connections inside eroeded ayaw but i might be able to resoder tmem
[22:37] <rocker2344> them*
[22:38] <crux000> rocker2344: good luck :) you may also be able to move the drive to a different case
[22:38] <crux000> (assuming the "connections" were in the USB enclosure part and not the HDD itself)
[22:38] <io> I think the answer is "no" but I had a OpenPGP key on a desktop that cored and had to have a fresh installation. Is there any way to recover that OpenPGP key? (It cored shortly after I created the OpenPGP key so did not have time to fetch a local copy).
[22:39] <rocker2344> true
[22:43] <teemo> how do i logout and log back in again?
[22:44] <illac> lol guess teemo figured it out :D
[22:45] <teemo> did i miss something?
[22:45] <ubuntu-usr> hi
[22:46] <teemo> did someone answer how to logout and in?
[22:46] <lcuk> you solved it yourself didnt you?
[22:46] <illac> teemo: nah, it looked like you quit, so I assumed you'd figured it out
[22:46] <teemo> no
[22:46] <lcuk> teemo, we were concerned you would make it back ok
[22:46] <teemo> i hope its not something very obvious
[22:47] <lcuk> bottom right in ubuntu has a power button and username
[22:47] <ubuntu-usr> i haven't grub file at /etc/default/. where i should take a look for it in another location?
[22:47] <teemo> darn
[22:47] <lcuk> or just press power button on pc
[22:47] <teemo> its obvious
[22:47] <lcuk> only to rocket scientists - you are safe
[22:47] <[thor]> agreed, i am a rocket surgeon, and it slipped by me.
[22:48] <illac> teemo: gnome-session-save --logout <-- try that?
[22:48] <crux000> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/607006 <--- finally got this filed.
[22:48] <crux000> Now off to eat something and perhaps drink a beer or ten
[22:49] <crux000> cheers folks
[22:49] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: Do you have the grub-pc package installed? What version of Ubuntu are you using and is it an upgrade from an earlier version or a fresh install?
[22:49] <teemo> is there a shortcut for the terminal?
[22:49] <Alazare> anyone have an idea why i cant connect to any hubs in ldcPP
[22:50] <lcuk> teemo, you oculd just not login to graphical desktop
[22:50] <lcuk> thats about as shortcuty as it can be
[22:51] <cryptk> is there a way to find all packages installed after a certain date and time
[22:51] <LukeL> teemo it's in accessories
[22:52] <teemo> i meant a keyboard shortcut
[22:54] <LukeL> not by default i don't believe, but gnome let's you assign keyboard shortcuts to commands, or you can do alt-f2: gnome-terminal
[22:55] <Oer> ctrl alt T
[22:55] <robertzaccour> can it hurt video quality to watch it in the middle of rendering?
[22:56] <teemo> ctrl + alt + t works right out of the box, thank you Oer
[22:58] <Oer> robertzaccour, no, you take time from your CPU, so a renderjob with lower priority, needs more time
[22:58] <wanderingi> i have switched from a windows pc to running ubuntu. i used to use itunes and kept all my music on a networked hard drive, is there any easy way of me being able to list all files that are on the drive that are locked to itunes so that i can get replacements?
[22:59] <robertzaccour> Oer: what i'm asking is it ok to check the video in the middle of rendering or could that possibly hurt the quality by interrupting something
[23:00] <Oer> robertzaccour, no, i don't think so, ubuntu is multitasking
[23:00] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U i don't remember exactly how long i have my ubuntu but i'm certain when i installed my ubuntu grub was in 1.0. Now i have 10.04. terminal refuses to install grub-pc because another packages are broken
[23:01] <tensorpudding> qemu does not handle gnome's keybinding changes well at all
[23:01] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: Well whatever else is happening you should fix your broken packages. Try "sudo apt-get -f install".
[23:01] <cryptk> is there a way to find all packages installed after a certain date and time? I have looked through the man pages with no luck
[23:01] <cablop>  wanderingi not sure if aTunes or amarok could do that trick
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  not that ive ever heard/seen of.
[23:02] <tensorpudding> in particular it sends caps lock even when caps lock is rebound to control by gnome
[23:02] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, what now?
[23:02] <cablop> cryptk: i think if apt system use a database for that you can check for apt docs
[23:02] <erUSUL> cryptk: Synaptic has a history where it lists packages installed by date ...
[23:02] <Oer> cryptk yes, synaptic > file > history
[23:02] <Oer> jaja
[23:02] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, i repaired them
[23:03] <thewanderer1> hi, I'm having a problem with update-motd being called by `login`... what makes `login` issue `run-parts /etc/update-motd.d/` ?
[23:03] <cablop> cryptk: anyway... i think it's hard to accomplish that, maybe try to see if apt keeps a log or if you can sort installed packages by date in synaptic
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> thewanderer1:  if you have a file in your home called '.hushlogin' it may not do that. :) it makes teh login messages all.. very quite
[23:04] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: If you installed when grub legacy was still the default then you will still be using grub legacy even after upgrading to 10.04. If you want to upgrade to grub2 (which I personally recommend), then install the grub-pc package. If you don't want to upgrade to grub2 then you'll need to look in /boot/grub/menu.lst for options rather than /etc/default/grub.
[23:04] <thewanderer1> Dr_Willis, I don't have .hushlogin
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> thewanderer1:  make one...  thats why i said 'if you have...' :)
[23:05] <thewanderer1> Dr_Willis, but what makes login call update-motd? update-motd is not even installed on my system! O.o
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> thewanderer1:  no idea. ive never ntiocied it calling that.
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> i rarely see any messages when i login
[23:05] <thewanderer1> it just refers to /etc files, and /etc files are scripts which call non-existent binaries
[23:06] <thewanderer1> I'm feeling uncomfortable with it
[23:06] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, but grub2 seems too messy for me
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> thewanderer1:  you doing some major changes to your system or somthing else unusual? Ther are login replacements i recall.
[23:07] <thewanderer1> Dr_Willis, no, I just noticed login behaving strange, calling a binary I didn't expect it to
[23:08] <thewanderer1> not a mention of it in the changelog
[23:08] <Jordan_U> thewanderer1: man update-motd
[23:08] <Ayla> hello
[23:09] <thewanderer1> Jordan_U, not installed on my system
[23:09] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, how to remove old kernels and other stuff?
[23:09] <thewanderer1> I don't have that package but login refers to it, that's what bothers me
[23:09] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: Remove the old packages.
[23:09] <brandon__> anyone good with conky
[23:09] <brandon__> or use howlong.pl before
[23:10] <Jordan_U> thewanderer1: Have you actually tried running "man update-motd"?
[23:10] <thewanderer1> yes
[23:10] <Deven> Hi group
[23:10] <thewanderer1> no such manpage
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> conky has some very good docs/examples... never heard of howlong.pl
[23:10] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, i do not know what packages
[23:10] <massmc1> brandon__: crunchbox forums have a really good post about conky conf and themes
[23:10] <thewanderer1> dpkg -l shows: No packages found matching update-motd.
[23:10] <brandon__> was hoping to talk to someone in real time not leave a post
[23:10] <brandon__> but thanks
[23:11] <Jordan_U> thewanderer1: It should be provided by libpam-modules, which I am surprised you don't have installed.
[23:11] <Deven> hi
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> locate update-motd
[23:11] <Deven> any body is there
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> !locate update-motd
[23:11] <Deven> where am i?
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I dont seem to have update-motd either
[23:11] <thewanderer1> Jordan_U, just looking at libpam-modules source, not a mention about update-motd... strange
[23:11] <erUSUL> Deven: matrix
[23:11] <Deven> ok
[23:11] <erUSUL> !hi | Deven
[23:11] <thewanderer1> I did an strace on login and it calls `sh -c run-parts /etc/....`
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> !find  update-motd
[23:12] <Deven> hi
[23:12] <Deven> ubottu
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> !info  update-motd
[23:12] <Deven> thanks to all
[23:12] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: It's a framework, not a command. "man update-motd" explains it well.
[23:12] <Deven> i am in backtrack
[23:12] <Deven> chatting room
[23:12] <erUSUL> Deven: then you should move to #backtrack-linux
[23:13] <thewanderer1> what is the source package for libpam-modules?
[23:13] <Deven> i dont know how
[23:13] <Deven> plz help me
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> I do have the man page for update-motd :)
[23:13] <erUSUL> Deven: /join #backtrack-linux
[23:13] <Jordan_U> thewanderer1: pam
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> people useing backtrack.. often seem to be people that shouldent be using backtrack.. :)
[23:14] <thewanderer1> Jordan_U, so if I do apt-get source libpam-modules, I get pam source?
[23:14] <Jordan_U> thewanderer1: Yes.
[23:14] <thewanderer1> okay, gonna see it
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> Deven:  type /join #backtrack-linux     and it should join that channel
[23:14] <thewanderer1> where are the PAM libs?
[23:14] <cablop> how can i make dpkg install dependencies of a deb?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  i found that 'gedbi' does that for me.
[23:14] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: but desire to be the type of people that should be using backtrack ... they think the tools makes the master
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  sudo gdebi foo.deb
[23:14] <cablop> thanks
[23:15] <cablop> i was trying to use dpkg...
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  i just sort of discovered taht one day :)
[23:15] <cablop> welll, it's a long time for me not using ubuntu for a long time
[23:15] <cablop> 2 years
[23:15] <cablop> well, i was using, but oin a very basic way
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> BasicBuntu
[23:15] <cablop> what is used nowadays in linux to write chinese?
[23:15] <thewanderer1> found the call in: /debian/patches-applied/update-motd
[23:15] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | Dr_Willis cablop
[23:16] <cyborgsmurf> I have trouble typing text into a flashbox in browser (Ubuntu 9.10)
[23:16] <cablop> well, i just setted a ubuntu inside a vm and used itto commit svn things :P
[23:16] <cablop> nopthing else, haha
[23:16] <trism> cablop: in ubuntu ibus is the default now
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:   so? gdebi when called like i showed it.. does NOT use a gui. :P
[23:16] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: Interesting.
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if it does when using gksudo.. i never noticed.
[23:16] <cablop> i got used to say
[23:17] <cablop> sudo -b gedit for example
[23:17] <trism> gdebi-gtk is the gui version
[23:17] <cyborgsmurf> can someone help me with this problem?
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> there we go. :) +1 for trism
[23:17] <cablop> i disliked the concept of a gksudo some times, maybe nowadays it's a better way to do things
[23:17] <intx> how do i compile a kernel on stable?
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> cablop:  theres more to  the sudo system then what many people realize
[23:17] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: cablop: The more traditional way is to either use apt-get from the beginning or "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb" then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[23:17] <thewanderer1> does anyone know how /etc/update-motd.d get created?
[23:17] <erUSUL> !kernel | intx
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:  i alweays get 'scared' when doing the -f install method, :) it just seems  'wrong'
[23:18] <cyborgsmurf> Is there no one in here using Linux with flashproblems?
[23:18] <Deven> i wanna ask a question about backtraaaack plz help  me
[23:18] <cablop> Joryes, but i had the .deb in my system, not from the repos, a vbox not opensource, and wanted to install
[23:18] <cablop> then dpkg din't solved issues
[23:18] <cablop> i'll go the gdebi way
[23:18] <prince_jammys> Deven: join #backtrack-linux
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> Deven:  they have their own support channel. You ahving problems gettting to it?
[23:18] <Deven> i dont how
[23:19] <cyborgsmurf> (maybe Im on the wrong channel)
[23:19] <Deven> hi
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> Deven:  type in the text box where you are typing  this text and do that '/join #backtrack-linux' command
[23:19] <intx> erUSUL: thanks.. i followed that url in the link, but it fails on the actual compile
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Deven
[23:19] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: what problems?
[23:20] <cablop> afaik flash have issues with ANY operative system
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> flash is an issue. :)
[23:20] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: the keyboard input dosent respond when typing
[23:20] <cyborgsmurf> in flash
[23:20] <erUSUL> intx: how ?
[23:20] <cablop> let me try, do you have a link cyborgsmurf
[23:21] <cablop> a simple one
[23:21] <cyborgsmurf> www.sharedtalk.com for example
[23:21] <cablop> i need to type it by hand in my linux
[23:21] <thewanderer1> can anyone help me test a possibly broken feature of update-motd?
[23:22] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, i can't install grub 2. terminal is blubbing somthing about unstable distro (?)  and somthing about incomming folder
[23:22] <roydude> hey folks
[23:22] <fearful> can anyone help me to run acpi=off on grub 1.98 loader?
[23:22] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: i'm on that page, now where to go?
[23:22] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: okay wait...
[23:22] <roydude> I can't seem to format my HD of ubuntu install complains my HD has too many cylinders :(  is there a way around this?
[23:22] <thewanderer1> help me debug update-motd: install update-notifier, remove it, then login on the console and tell me if you get any errors
[23:23] <cablop> fearful: just edit the line at booting, or do you need it by default?
[23:23] <erUSUL> fearful: edit /etc/default/grub add it like this "quiet splash acpi=off" ... then run « sudo update-grub »
[23:23] <ikonia> roydude: what tool are you using ?
[23:23] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: What is the exact error?
[23:23] <cablop> fearful if you need it to be used always then edit /etc/default/grub
[23:23] <roydude> ikonia: I'm assuming the ubuntu install process from live-cd uses gpared... looks like gparted.
[23:23] <fearful> cablop, erUSUL I need it always but I can't even logon to Ubuntu I'm only on the GRUB configuration
[23:23] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: I guess you have to register to use the "Chat"
[23:24] <ikonia> roydude: so what's the actual error you get ?
[23:24] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, sorry in polish language http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/LPpVUxVJ
[23:24] <erUSUL> fearful: grub configuration ? or grub menu ?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> roydude: It uses it's own GUI + libparted (gparted is also included speparately)
[23:24] <roydude> ikonia: the disk has 121601 cylinders which is greater than the maximum of 65536
[23:24] <fearful> erUSUL, well grub menu but I can open the command prompt or configuration, I'm getting child_rip error when loading.
[23:24] <thewanderer1> ubuntu-usr, if you prepend LANG=C before your command, you get errors in English
[23:25] <thewanderer1> use that when asking for help
[23:25] <cablop> fearful: just bypass it at booting, when you boot you can press a key to edit the grub boot options, then edit and go, after that edit /etc/default/grub
[23:25] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: I had major problem with clicking on flash but I solved it somehow but since then I havent been able to write anything in flashbox or whatsoever
[23:25] <ikonia> roydude: how big is the disk ?
[23:25] <ikonia> roydude: is it a real physical disk or a virtual raid ?
[23:25] <roydude> ikonia: 1TB drive
[23:25] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: Please try using the main Ubuntu repositories as it appears there is something wrong with the mirror you're using currently.
[23:25] <fearful> cablop, how do I bypass it at booting
[23:25] <cablop> cyborg, you're right i'll need a registration...
[23:25] <robertzaccour> i have a 64 bit system but its a 1.6GHz amd athalon with 3GB ram. should i really be running a 64 bit os on it?
[23:25] <roydude> ikonia 1TB physical disk
[23:26] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: is sharedtalk a good place? so i don't waste the registration, :P
[23:26] <dido13> #ubuntu-ma
[23:26] <thewanderer1> robertzaccour, it does not hurt and you help computing as a whole to develop into 64 bits
[23:26] <ikonia> roydude: I'm not %100 certain on this, but I remember someone was habing a problem with 1TB disks recently on kubuntu, and had to use the server install to partition it, it's to do with the partition table, (dos partition table) they needed GPT support which was only the in server kernel
[23:26] <Jordan_U> roydude: Can you post a screenshot of the actual error message?
[23:26] <cablop> fearful: i think you can press a key at some time at booting, maybe the esc key
[23:26] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | roydude
[23:27] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: the people there are usually nice, its mostly for learning languege. I would recommend it if you want to learn a languege, but it is not a must :)
[23:27] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, if it helps it is in english now http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/emQ8swir
[23:27] <fearful> cablop, after I have clicked the option to start with ubuntu?
[23:27] <robertzaccour> oh ok thanks
[23:27] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: well, i want to find a place to find korena or russian speakers... well. i gie it a try :)
[23:27] <roydude> Jordan_U:  there isn't much other info to gain besides what Ubuntu complains about when it tries to format the drives during install...
[23:27] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: brb, wait till i register
[23:27] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: then that is the perfect place I think :)
[23:28] <roydude> Jordan_U: the disk has 121601 cylinders which is greater than the maximum of 65536
[23:28] <dad3> hi
[23:28] <roydude> ikonia: you think it's a partion table issue that doesn't support bigger drives?
[23:28] <ikonia> roydude: it's dos partition table v's gpt
[23:28] <fearful> cablop, that didn't work.
[23:28] <ikonia> roydude: from memory, yes
[23:28] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, and how about sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy
[23:28] <Jordan_U> roydude: As I understand it C/H/S values are meaningless at this point, so that error doesn't make much sense to me.
[23:29] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, will work better?
[23:29] <cablop> roydude what is your problem?
[23:29] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-usr: You run that after installing grub-pc (if you choose to try loading grub2 from grub-legacy before committing to grub2)
[23:29] <cablop> fearful, aww, i dunno, what else to do, afaik, grub gives you 5 seconds to enter the grub menu and edit
[23:30] <cablop> fearul, try safe mode, edit that file and then do sudo update-grub... i guess
[23:30] <cablop> fearful, or edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, it depends on your exact grub version
[23:30] <ubuntu-usr> Jordan_U, then please help me tov fix my repo
[23:30] <roydude> Jordan_U: ikonia:  I've run into this before formatting a 1.5TB drive...  I forget exactly how I fixed it... I had to get a different version of gparted...  but I would think 10.04 would be on top of these things :)
[23:30] <roydude> I'll read up on partition tables
[23:30] <scottyg> how do i convert an avi into a wmv please?  i am a noob
[23:30] <fearful> cablop, so edit the file /etc/default/grub and add acpi=off?
[23:31] <cablop> in the default linux something fearful
[23:31] <ikonia> roydude: try the sever install disk. I think that has gpt support built into the kernel
[23:31] <un214> I finally had it with grub2 and installed lilo
[23:31] <cablop> fearful: the sad part is i'm in a virtual linux now so can't access my file to see it
[23:31] <fearful> cablop, I can't run recovery mode either
[23:31] <Jordan_U> fearful: If you want to change the kernel parameters from the grub menu itself at boot press "e" to edit the menu entry.
[23:31] <scottyg> how do i convert an avi into a wmv please?  i am a noob
[23:31] <fearful> Jordan_U, ok, so do I just add acpi=off to there?
[23:31] <xuxc000> scottyg, What's noob?
[23:31] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: have you joined yet :)
[23:32] <scottyg> newbie
[23:32] <Rewt`> scott : ffmpeg
[23:32] <cablop> doing it, cyborgsmurf
[23:32] <scottyg> cool ill try ffmpeg!!!
[23:32] <Jordan_U> fearful: Yes, after "quiet splash" (and on the same line). Then press ctrl+x to boot the modified entry.
[23:32] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: not ready to allow registrations now :(
[23:33] <Rewt`> can someone link me the url for cesktop iso please
[23:33] <scottyg> i have ff mpeg please tell me how to access it!
[23:33] <fearful> Jordan_U, and this will stay like this always?
[23:33] <erUSUL> scottyg: is a command line program
[23:33] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: say whaat! hmmm... well bookmark the page at least... Whats up with that anyway?
[23:33] <erUSUL> scottyg: install winff if tyou want a gui to it
[23:33] <scottyg> what is the syntax to convert a avi to a wmv?
[23:33] <scottyg> ohhh ok!
[23:33] <cablop> cyborgsmurf: well, i'll try to save that bookmark, hehe don't know how to test flash then...
[23:33] <Jordan_U> fearful: No, once you're booted you'll need to make it permanent by editing /etc/default/grub and running "update-grub" as explained before.
[23:34] <roydude> ikonia: gpt is supported in 10.04 desktop edition...  I'm trying a format in gparted now...
[23:34] <erUSUL> scottyg: ffmpg -i file.wmv file.avi
[23:34] <fearful> Jordan_U, thank you so much also cablop and erUSUL  worked like a charm just have to edit it once booted.
[23:34] <roydude> ikonia: seems to be going through... perhaps I can avoid the format process altogether during ubuntu install
[23:34] <Jordan_U> fearful: You're welcome.
[23:34] <cablop> fearful: nice :)
[23:34] <ikonia> roydude: how do you know it's supported, I thought it wasn't
[23:35] <cyborgsmurf> cablop: darn... finally when someone could give me help THIS has to happen... I thank you for your help
[23:35] <Kyngdom> wow getting ps3 media server to decode x264 on ubuntu server is a PITA
[23:35] <cyborgsmurf> :)
[23:35] <twins_> hey
[23:35] <erUSUL> fearful: no problem
[23:35] <Jordan_U> ikonia: gpt is definitely supported in 10.04.
[23:35] <roydude> ikonia: cause I selected it in the drop down list of table types :)
[23:35] <ikonia> Jordan_U: I know it's in the kernel, wasn't sure about the actual installer
[23:35] <roydude> ikonia: I had an HD in the process of failing today... it was the OS disk :(
[23:35] <ikonia> roydude: ahh perfect, lets see how that works
[23:36] <roydude> ikonia: I'm not using the installer :)  using gparted
[23:36] <ikonia> roydude: ahh
[23:36] <Jordan_U> ikonia: If you have a > 4 TB disk it needs to use GPT, and the installer will setup gpt + a BIOS boot partition properly.
[23:37] <roydude> I'd like to know what the diffs are of these tables one day...  what are the advantages of each...
[23:37] <roydude> success, now to install :)
[23:37] <roydude> tx for the help guys
[23:37] <ikonia> cool
[23:37] <justin_> hey everyone, what's the best method to determine which partition is which when looking at gparted?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> roydude: msdos partition table format is ugly and has annoying limitations. The only advantage is backwards compatability.
[23:37] <orfix> Hi, i have a DKU-5 cable (nokia serial cable) and according to this link http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/Cables i need the ti_usb_3410_5052 driver, someone told me that i need to grab my kernel source and enable that module through menuconfig, build it then insmod it, is this the normal way of doing it ? thanks.
[23:38] <fearful> Jordan_U, just add it after quiet splash again correct?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> fearful: Yes.
[23:38] <fearful> Thanks again Jordan_U
[23:38] <Jordan_U> fearful: You're welcome.
[23:39] <roydude> she's installing now :)
[23:39]  * roydude is a happy boy
[23:40] <roydude> tx once again Ikonia and Jordan_U
[23:44] <ThomasB2k> Has anyone ever figured out how to change the Skype icon in the notification area?
[23:45] <thewanderer1> ThomasB2k, you basically replace the stock Skype icon with your own
[23:45] <ThomasB2k> There isn't one
[23:45] <ThomasB2k> for the notification area icon
[23:45] <justin_> anyone have a good method to figure out which partition your curren ubuntu is on?  I have 4 partitions on my hd, 1 for windows, 1 for my home folder, 1 for lynx, and 1 for jaunty...  I want to format the jaunty partition and resize the windows and lynx partitions with the leftover space
[23:46] <ThomasB2k> People have been asking that question for 2 years
[23:46] <ThomasB2k> Um Justin_
[23:46] <justin_> ThomasB2k, yes?
[23:47] <ThomasB2k> Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer?
[23:47] <thewanderer1> Justin_, type in `mount` and see what is under /
[23:47] <thewanderer1> /  is your root partition and it has a /dev/something pointing to it, that's your answer
[23:47] <justin_> thanks.  I'm still fairly new to all this.
[23:48] <ThomasB2k> Justin, run "palimpsest"
[23:48] <ThomasB2k> that should tell you something if you still don't know
[23:48] <fearful> Jordan_U, I did this and when I restarted again, received the same child_rip error.
[23:51] <justin_> also, since i have a windows partition grub would be on it's boot record right?
[23:51] <ader10> Is it possible to daemonize a wine program and still see the interface once logged in?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> justin_: No, grub should not be on the partition boot record of your windows partition.
[23:53] <cherva> can someone tell me what is the route command to add a gateway for a special subnet ( like 10.8.0.X ) ?
[23:53] <fearful> Jordan_U, any ideas why?
[23:54] <Bluh> I'm messing with my Ubuntu and I like to know how I can change my login screen and where might I find more?
[23:54] <thewanderer1> Bluh, System->Administration->Login screen
[23:54] <thewanderer1> find more on gnome-look.org
[23:55] <chrissharp123> cherva: try something like 'sudo route add -net 10.0.0.0/8 gw 10.0.X.X'
[23:55] <slidinghorn> Bluh, try these: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gdm-gnome-display-manager-theme-in-ubuntu.html
[23:55] <chrissharp123> (substituting your network's values, of course)
[23:55] <Jordan_U> fearful: No. Is there a particular reason that you thought that adding acpi=off to the list of kernel parameters would fix things?
[23:55] <fearful> Jordan_U, well its the only way I figured it out that loads.
[23:56] <thewanderer1> cherva: ip route add 10.8.0.0/24 via YOURGATEWAYIP
[23:56] <Jordan_U> fearful: When did you get it to load by adding acpi=off?
[23:56] <cherva> chrissharp123, thanks it worked
[23:56] <fearful> Since the Live CD I had to use the option acpi=off to load Jordan_U
[23:56] <cherva> thewanderer1, thx
[23:56] <organic4you> can someone help me install nvidia drivers it says not with x server
[23:57] <organic4you> i did init.d/gdm.stop
[23:58] <Jordan_U> organic4you: Use System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, don't try to download the driver from nvidia's site.
[23:59] <dart> can smone send me ubutu classroom irc channel name
[23:59] <ikonia> #ubuntu-classroom
[23:59] <dart> thnx