[00:02] <folkist> ##mac
[00:21] <megadevil> hello everybody
[00:22] <folkist> hey
[00:22] <megadevil>  is this irc chaneel for
[00:23] <megadevil> kubuntu & ubuntu ?
[00:23] <andy__> alo
[00:23] <folkist> i'm on ubuntu
[00:23] <folkist> so i hopr so
[00:23] <megadevil> me too
[00:23] <megadevil> lol
[00:24] <megadevil> Anyone know a applet to the gnome-panel that puts the logoff, restart and shutdown options in one place ?
[00:24] <James147> megadevil: this channel is for kubuntu support, for ubntu support see #ubuntu
[00:24] <megadevil> ok
[00:24] <megadevil> but I got the link irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
[00:24] <megadevil> and got connected here
[00:25] <James147> megadevil: hmm
[00:25] <megadevil> sorry to bother but I followed this page:
[00:26] <megadevil> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[00:26] <megadevil> well I'm already on the other chanel
[00:26] <megadevil> thank everyone
[00:44] <folkist> ##mac
[01:52] <darren> can someone help me? ubuntu 10.04 will not install so i installed kubuntu and have no idea what is what
[01:52] <darren> where is the the software center
[01:54] <darren> anyone there?
[01:54] <darren> what are some good rograms to have?
[01:56] <ridin> .
[01:56] <ridin> darren, there is no ubuntu software center in kubuntu
[01:56] <ridin> kpackagekit or whatever it's called
[01:57] <darren> ridin am i able to install any linux program on kubuntu?
[01:57] <ridin> yes
[01:57] <ridin> sudo apt-get install, .debs
[01:58] <ridin> you can try doing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to have ubuntu 10.04 along with kubuntu
[01:58] <ridin> but i think there's some stuff that's going to be removed
[01:59] <darren> in ubuntu there is a program for facebook prisim how can i install that in kubuntu?
[01:59] <ridin> facebook prism, hmm
[01:59] <darren> 10.04 wont install and i dont know why
[01:59] <ridin> darren, put sudo apt-get install prism-facebook in the terminal
[01:59] <ridin> konsole, rather
[02:01] <ridin> darren, there's also a kde widget for facebook
[02:02] <darren> ridin, how do i get that?
[02:03] <ridin> uh, on the top right there's a button, click on it and there's add widgets
[02:03] <darren> i have used ubuntu for almost a year but kubuntu 20  min i am quite new with this on
[02:03] <ridin> something will pop up on the toolbar, and then type in facebook
[02:03] <ridin> drag it to your desktop
[02:03] <ridin> and there it is
[02:06] <darren> on the top right where?
[02:06] <ridin> on the top right of the desktop
[02:06] <ridin> top right corner
[02:29] <ridin> KDM is asking for my password again after boot, saying the login-keyring hasn't been unlocked
[02:55] <solifugus_> How can I automate the installation of the dependencies of a .deb package I have?
[02:58] <James147> solifugus_: isent that handled when you install the .deb?
[03:03] <jschall> I'd like a 64-bit version of kubuntu netbook. Is there any way to get that?
[03:04] <jschall> The newer atom processors are amd64
[03:04] <James147> jschall: install the normal 64bit version and then install kubuntu-netbook inside it
[03:04] <jschall> James147: hmm. that'd probably work
[03:04] <James147> jschall: that will work :)
[03:05] <jschall> James147: i wish i'd thought of it before i completely configured this netbook the way i wanted it.
[03:05] <jschall> James147: i have a separate /home partition, so i suppose i can still reload
[03:06] <James147> jschall: the backup ~/ or ~/.kde and replace them in the new install
[03:06] <jschall> James147: i'll probably deal with it when maverick comes out
[03:06] <jschall> James147: which will be a little while - they'll probably just have a 64-bit netbook image by then
[03:06] <jschall> anyway, the netbook remix is amazing. i almost want to run it on my desktop.
[03:06] <James147> jschall: maverick wont have a netbook version... the images are being combined
[03:06] <jschall> James147: interesting.
[03:07] <James147> jschall: the installer will pick the interface you use, and you can configre which one after
[03:07] <jschall> James147: it'll autodetect if its on a netbook and use plasma-netbook if it's running on a netbook?
[03:09] <jschall> James147: know anything about video playback on pinetrail netbooks? jolicloud supposedly implemented some kernel patch that allowed 1080p video to be played, but dragon player has stuttering video and out-of-sync audio on a 720p video
[03:09] <jschall> James147: and then i tried vlc and it pretty much just didn't play at all
[03:10] <jschall> James147: http://jkontherun.com/2010/02/02/1080p-on-a-pinetrail-netbook-watch-and-see-says-jolicloud/
[03:10] <James147> jschall: not sure sorry :(
[03:16] <cato37> has the bug in knetworkmanger been fixed? i would like to uninstall the n-m interface and wicd.
[03:40] <JDK> Loading Swag... ████████████████ 100% Complete.
[03:43] <ridin> pinnacle of coolness
[03:52] <solifugus_> Nobody knows how to install a .deb file (and it's dependencies)?
[03:52] <ridin> solifugus_ ask in #ubuntu
[03:55] <solifugus_> ridin: so far no luck their either..
[03:56] <ridin> hold on
[03:58] <ridin> solifugus_, try doing cd <to where the .deb is> and then gdebi <.deb>
[03:59] <solifugus_> ridin: thanks.. at least it tried... i got: Dependency is not satisfiable: libcv1
[03:59] <solifugus_> Trying to install the panda3d package (which is for ubuntu)
[03:59] <ridin> what's the .deb you're downloading-
[03:59] <ridin> .
[03:59] <ridin> trying doing sudo apt-get install libcv1
[04:00] <solifugus_> It's here..  (I'll try) http://www.panda3d.org/download.php?platform=ubuntu&version=1.7.0&sdk
[04:04] <solifugus_> ridin: it wants libcv1 and kubuntu's current version is named libcv4
[04:04] <folkist> HEY U
[04:04] <folkist> I WANNA TAKE U TO A GAY BAR
[04:08] <ridin> solifugus, did you check out this? http://www.panda3d.org/download.php?platform=ubuntu&version=1.0.0&runtime
[04:08] <ridin> brb,
[04:10] <pteague> any ideas as to why k3b might not let me run a simulation?
[04:43] <RobertMnb> Has anyone had network-manager just go disable and then you can't connect via wireless / network
[04:45] <RobertMnb> had problems with network-manger?
[04:47] <cato37> yes. the network manager goes into an "unaenabled" state if the os goes into hibernation when still active.
[04:47] <cato37> i have had to put the gnome front end on the network manager.
[04:50] <cato37> my quick-fix was to install wicd. i then hunted down the wiki article that discussed putting nm on the frontend of knetwork manager and then unistalled wicd.
[04:52] <Dan_L> It happens from time to time.
[04:53] <Dan_L> I've actually been having a really weird problem where network manager just hangs in 'configuring interface'
[04:53] <cato37> you might have exit out and re-enter until the network are looking for comes up.
[04:56] <Dan_L> i tried rebooting like 10 times and it finally came back up
[05:01] <cato37> i heard that you can run in konsole killall knetworkmanager, and then run knetworkmanager, to get it back.
[05:03] <Dan_L> the killall command is safe?
[05:03] <cato37> i have only had kubuntu for about a month now. i haven't had many problems...especially compared to the last os which i had to pay for.
[05:03] <RobertMnb> Found a fix
[05:03] <RobertMnb> http://www.harshj.com/2010/06/02/network-manager-disabled/
[05:03] <cato37> i think it needs the sudo command. it will kill all off the networkmanager processes so that they can be restarted fresh.
[05:04] <cato37> keen. thanx robert.
[05:05] <cato37> Dan_L: RobertMnb's post has the answer.
[05:05] <RobertMnb> I know it had something to do with hibernation just didn't know how to fix
[05:08] <Dan_L> I thought that was the answer to your question, Cato.
[05:09] <Dan_L> My issue is a little different
[05:09] <Dan_L> or maybe it's the same?
[05:09] <Dan_L> Mine just sticks in "configuring interface" forever and a day.
[05:09] <cato37> sorry, i thought we had the same issue.
[05:10] <cato37> if i exit and re-enter, it "unsticks" the second time for me.
[05:10] <Dan_L> I appreciate it though.  If tha'ts a permanent fix for the 'disabled' issue, I could use that too.
[05:10] <Dan_L> I learn something new in Kubuntu every day!
[05:51] <cato37> when a package is offered with a name, and there is an identical one with the name plus a -dev attached, what does that mean?
[06:00] <cato37> reboot. brb
[06:04] <ner0x> Any way to get flash to play through a USB headset?
[06:06] <cato37> wow. watch out for the debian science-math package... it is a big one.
[06:08] <ner0x> Can you make kubuntu use something other than xine as your backend to music?
[06:21] <ner0x> What are my options when using sound backends for kubuntu?
[06:45] <bakingsoda> fuck u motherfuckers
[06:47] <maco> ner0x: you can install the gstreamer backend to phonon
[06:48] <ner0x> maco: That will allow firefox flash to play in my headphones?
[06:48] <maco> i dont know
[06:48] <maco> you just asked whether there was another backend
[06:49] <troopperi> ner0x: did you hear any voices at flash?
[06:50] <ner0x> troopperi: ?
[06:51] <troopperi> mean:" That will allow firefox flash to play in my headphones?" problem with voice?
[06:51] <ner0x> Well everything but flash plays fine on my headphones.
[06:52] <troopperi> you dont hear anything?
[07:27] <ner0x> troopperi: I don't hear any of the flash audio.
[07:28] <ner0x> troopperi: My headphones play everything except flash audio.
[07:28] <troopperi> ner0x: try type konsole alsamixer and find there pcm and check that is not muted
[07:29] <ner0x> Not muted.
[07:39] <troopperi> ner0x: what is level that pcm?
[07:39] <ner0x> troopperi: 100%, it has nothing to do with volume levels. flash doesn't seem to use any device except the builtin. Totally ignores any USB devices.
[07:39] <sobczyk> anyone has amarok memory leaks problem
[07:40] <sobczyk> when I run amarok it takes over 60% of totam memory (over 2GB)
[07:43] <ner0x> sobczyk: On initial start or during the entire existence of the app?
[07:44] <sobczyk> on initial more than 200MB then when I played a stream it increased in less than 15 sec
[07:46] <ner0x> Hm...
[07:46] <sobczyk> hah, I set ulimit to 1GB run amarok without playing anything and it was killed after 20 seconds
[07:46] <ner0x> Any crazy logging db or anything like that setup?
[07:47] <sobczyk> ner0x: logging? in amarok? I have only one playlist
[07:47] <sobczyk> and turned off the file indexing in kde
[07:48] <ner0x> sobczyk: Amarok logs a lot of statistics. And indexes things on startup. Doesn't seem like this is your problem though.
[08:04] <ArGGu^^> ner0x You probably need to set in ~/.asoundrc your usb sound card to default sound card to get the sound to work in flash.
[09:26] <omkar> hey guys
[09:27] <omkar> I have just installed kubuntu on my acer laptop
[09:27] <omkar> acer 5745G
[09:27] <omkar> wanted to know abt the nvidia driver
[09:27] <omkar> wanted to knw a command which will show me the display card
[09:33] <Torch> omkar: lspci | grep VGA
[09:33] <omkar> ok
[09:33] <omkar> thanks
[09:34] <omkar> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12)
[09:34] <omkar> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310M] (rev a2)
[09:34] <omkar> actually they said u can switch between onboard n nvidia card
[09:34] <omkar> by a button on the laptop
[09:35] <omkar> I just read abt the Nouveau
[09:37] <omkar> in rpm supported distro's i can find exactly waht package i have installed is there the same for debian distros too
[09:37] <omkar> Like rpm -qa
[09:40] <Torch> omkar: dpkg -l for packages and dpkg -S for files.
[09:42] <omkar> ooh
[09:42] <omkar> dpkg
[09:42] <omkar> it more simple than rpm :)
[09:43] <omkar> its just cool
[10:21] <amichair> Is there a way to restart the usb subsystem (e.g. when lsusb hangs indefinitely)?
[10:32] <apparle_> can anyone please download a gpg key for me and pastebin it .. I don't have the required open ports
[10:33] <amichair> apparle_: sure, what should I do?
[10:35] <apparle_> amichair: I am also not sure how to do it but I need to get the key which is received by the command "gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv 886DDD89"
[10:38] <apparle_> anyone else who can help?
[10:38] <apparle_> or tell me how to do it
[10:41] <mistrynitesh> apparle_: try "gpg --recv-keys --keyserver keys.gnupg.net 886DDD89"
[10:41] <Torch> apparle_: http://pastebin.ca/1903523
[10:41] <amichair> apparle_: http://keys.gnupg.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xEE8CBC9E886DDD89
[10:42] <apparle_> amichair: hwo did you get that?
[10:42] <amichair> apparle_: open http://keys.gnupg.net/
[10:43] <apparle_> amichair: I did but when I put in 886DDD89 I get no keys found
[10:43] <apparle_> Torch: thanks
[10:43] <amichair> apparle_: and note the comment on adding an '0x' prefix for a hex-format ID
[10:43] <apparle_> what to save the file as .pgp or .gpg
[10:44] <apparle_> amichair: ohhh but now I again get port access problems... anyways thanks my problem is solved
[10:45] <amichair> apparle_: great :-)
[10:46] <apparle_> what about the extension.... .pgp or .gpg
[10:47] <mistrynitesh> apparle_: it seems you are trying to add keys of a repository, is it so?
[10:47] <amichair> apparle_: I think .asc or .txt will do
[10:47] <apparle_> mistrynitesh: yes
[10:47] <apparle_> mistrynitesh: so I was going to give that file to software sources gui
[10:48] <mistrynitesh> in that case, shouldn't you be trying 'apt-key' command
[10:49] <amichair> btw, is there a way to restart the usb subsystem (e.g. when lsusb hangs indefinitely)?
[10:50] <mistrynitesh> apparle_: when I add a repository to my sources.list file, I give the following command to add the relevant keys:
[10:51] <mistrynitesh> "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 886DDD89"
[11:29] <Misterio> This isn't very important, but just curiosity: I have Kubuntu 10.04, 2.80 Ghz, and it takes 100% CPU the update-app, anyone knows why? Does checking updates take too much CPU during 5 minutes?
[11:34] <matteogol> I'm Italian, where is server italian?
[11:34] <Misterio> !ita | matteogol :)
[11:34] <Misterio> !it
[11:34] <matteogol> thanks misterio
[11:35] <Misterio> You're welcome :)
[11:37] <amichair> is there a samba gui in lucid?
[11:48] <Ites> hi all
[11:48] <Ites> i got a problem with my internet, and i have no idea how this could be
[11:48] <Ites> let me explain
[11:48] <Ites> downstairs we got a win xp system, with internet via an ethernet cable
[11:48] <Ites> in my room, upstairs, i'm using a powerline to get internet cause it's too far away to reach wifi
[11:49] <Ites> i got dual boot win7 and kubuntu. when im on win7, we never have problems
[11:49] <Ites> the problems starts when i'm on kubuntu, and the pc downstairs is connected to internet as well
[11:49] <Ites> my internet will work for 10min max, then i get the error 'servor not found' in firefox
[11:50] <Ites> downstairs, they get the same problem
[11:50] <Ites> i'm 100 sure it has something to do with my kubuntu, i just don't know what or how or whatever, if someone could help it would be awesome
[12:02] <yao_ziyuan> does kubuntu 10.04 use Oxygen Molecule as the default gtk+ theme?
[12:03] <sharkzz> i have problm with my kubuntu..
[12:03] <yao_ziyuan> opensuse 11.3 kde does. i think it's good for other distros to do the same.
[12:03] <sharkzz> yea...
[12:03] <sharkzz> my problem is white screen :(
[12:04] <gnomefreak> better than bule screen
[12:05] <gnomefreak> s/bule/blue
[12:06] <glaucous> How do I add a keyboard shortcut in Kubuntu 10.04? I'd like to start a program Ctrl+T for instance.
[12:07] <sobczyk> Ites: check if your ip addresses don't change
[12:08] <Ites> it does sobczyk, we have dynamic ip's afaik
[12:08] <Ites> but i think i made me a fix one to use torrent sites etc
[12:09] <sobczyk> ites I mean after the 10 minutes
[12:09] <Ites> but why with kubuntu probs, and not with windows
[12:09] <Ites> ok
[12:09] <Ites> and if it does ?
[12:09] <sobczyk> maybe you have dhcp server on ubuntu?
[12:13] <Ites> what's that
[12:16] <sobczyk> Ites: it assigns ip addresses to computers
[12:17] <Ites> hm, i have no idea sobczyk. is there a way to check?
[12:18] <slow-motion> hi
[12:21] <sobczyk> Ites: run package manager
[12:21] <sobczyk> search for dhcp, filer only installed packages
[12:22] <sobczyk> if there is dhcp server there can be problems
[12:22] <Ites> there are 2
[12:22] <Ites> one with
[12:23] <Ites> common files used by all dhcp 3* packages
[12:23] <sobczyk> so it's ok - it's some other problem
[12:23] <Ites> and one dhcp client
[12:25] <sobczyk> Ites: you could take note of ifconfig command, /etc/resolv.conf file and route command before and after the error appears
[12:26] <Ites> i got eth0, l0 and wlan0 when doing ifconfig
[12:26] <Ites> it's the first one e?
[12:26] <sobczyk> yeah eth0 is usually your lan
[12:27] <Ites> ok
[12:27] <Ites> and i do it again when problem encounters again? well i can't go start up the other pc right now cause i'm still doing some things , but i will later then
[12:27] <sobczyk> resolv.conf has the DNS servers (translate address to ip) and route has iformation about gateway
[12:28] <sobczyk> take note whent it works, if it breaks compare what is different
[12:28] <sobczyk> though it's weird that the W7 is fine when kubuntu isn't
[12:29] <Ites> yes idd
[12:36] <rethus> how can i install kde4 and qt devel packages easyly?
[12:36] <rethus> is there a meta-package for it?
[12:37] <sobczyk> rethus: libqt4-dev no idea about kde though
[12:40] <rethus> whats the diference between libkde4-dev uand libkde5-dev?
[13:07] <gezegenci> hi every one
[13:09] <gezegenci> i want to ask somethig
[13:09] <gezegenci> Do you fall in the kde ?
[13:14] <gezegenci> Do you fall in the kde ?
[13:14] <rethus> i think no one knows what u talking about?!
[13:14] <gezegenci> ok
[13:15] <rethus> if u wan't to ask something only ask
[14:21] <cash> selam millet
[14:37] <kasun> hello does anyone know where I can change settings of "kdewallet" ? I installed Choqok and it always ask for password at boot-time, which is a pain. I need to get rid of that. Any help please?
[14:39] <Torch> kasun: use the wallet manager
[14:40] <glaucous> Is it possible to sort by folder in Amarok 2.3?
[14:40] <kasun> Torch, where can I find it? sorry, Im using ubuntu and using a kde app called choqok!
[14:41] <Torch> kasun: the binary is called kwalletmanager
[14:54] <kasun> Torch, thanks. I found that kwalletmanager is not installed in my system(ubuntu 10.04) so I installed that. but I can't load it.
[14:54] <kasun> It says: "Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)" in command prompt
[14:54] <Torch> kasun: that's only a warning
[14:55] <kasun> Torch, ok. but app is not starting!
[14:56] <kasun> now when enter 'kwalletmanager' to cmd, nothing happens. it just exits, no gui gets loaded
[15:05] <kree8or> hi
[15:06] <kree8or> i have a problem , can anyone help?
[15:07] <Torch> kree8or: just ask, don't ask to ask ;-)
[15:08] <kree8or> i'm trying to use Jsymphonic to connect my walkman to my lappy. I keep getting "cannot find OMGAUDIO folder" message, even though i pointed the program to the OMGAUDIO folder
[15:10] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[15:49] <kden00b> how does one create an Icon Widget on the desktop?
[15:51] <James147> kden00b: for an application? drag the application from kmenu to the desktop
[15:51] <kden00b> does that create a shortcut or a widget ?
[15:51] <James147> kden00b: everything on the desktop is a widget :)
[15:52] <James147> atleast if your not useing folder view as the desktop:)
[15:52] <kden00b> when I do a create new -> link to application  it's not creating widgets
[15:52] <kden00b> I  think it is set to folder view.. but dragging and dropping helped though .. thanks
[15:52] <folkist> I HATE LIVING AT HOME DURING THE SUMMER
[15:53]  * James147 loves not going home during the summer :D
[15:53] <folkist> hay james
[15:53] <folkist> i hate you
[15:53] <James147> hi folkist
[15:53] <folkist> my mom yells at me for sleeping in till noon
[15:54] <folkist> because she cant run errands without me
[15:54] <folkist> so she adds me on facebook
[15:54] <kden00b> thanks guys
[15:54] <folkist> even thou i fucking live with here
[15:54] <James147> folkist: join #kubuntu-offtopic for general chat :)
[16:00] <brujoh> hey all, is it possible to mount an ext3 filesystem in fstab with a specific uid/gid?
[16:01] <brujoh> I've got this so far but it mounts it as root: LABEL=firelite /media/firelite  ext3    users,exec      0
[16:02] <James147> brujoh: Not sure, but I think just chowning the mount point works
[16:02] <mistrynitesh> brujoh: you can specify the uid(s) in the options field
[16:03] <mistrynitesh> like "users,exec,uid=1000"
[16:03] <brujoh> weird.. when I try passing the options uid=1000,gid=1000 it errors out on a bad option
[16:03] <eikelmt> hi guys
[16:04] <eikelmt> i am running unbuntu lts 10.40 and I have a wifi problem
[16:04] <eikelmt> and I need help
[16:04] <eikelmt> my wifi I have a habbit of disconnecting while i am working
[16:05] <James147> mistrynitesh: brujoh: i dont think ext3 has that option, its for fat and ntfs
[16:05] <eikelmt> sometimes Ii can manage to connect again and sometime i need to restart my box
[16:05] <eikelmt> right now it is working but 10 min ago it did not
[16:05] <eikelmt> so please give me some clues i can check out
[16:06] <eikelmt> while it isstill working
[16:06] <James147> eikelmt: signal strength?
[16:06] <eikelmt> 67%
[16:06] <mistrynitesh> James147: pardon my ignorance
[16:06] <James147> mistrynitesh: its ok, I dont know that much more :)
[16:08] <eikelmt> i can see from the systemlog it is deactivating wlan0
[16:08] <James147> eikelmt: not sure why it would be doing that :S the version in 10.04 seems quite stable to me... you could try using the gnome applet (install: network-manager-gnome  kill knetworkmanager and run nm-applet)
[16:08]  * mistrynitesh still fishing for that really good fstab howto
[16:08] <James147> mistrynitesh: man mount :)
[16:08] <James147> mistrynitesh: will at least tell you all the options
[16:08] <mistrynitesh> hmmm
[16:10] <eikelmt> ok i am doing it right now
[16:10] <eikelmt> what about networkmanager ?
[16:10] <James147> mistrynitesh: although i found useing ntfs-config to add ntfs entries useful :)
[16:10] <eikelmt> I can see both networkmanager and kde networkmanager installed
[16:10] <James147> eikelmt: its the backend that nm-applet and knetworkmanager use :p
[16:11] <eikelmt> ok i see
[16:11] <eikelmt> i am use to both fedora and mandriva but this time i wanted to try out ubuntu since i heard so much nice about it
[16:12] <eikelmt> kde is pretty crappy regardless what you are using
[16:13] <James147> eikelmt: i dissagree, i find it much nicer to use then gnome... although it still does have some holes in it
[16:14] <eikelmt> I have always used KDE but I am impressed about the new gnome
[16:14] <James147> eikelmt: got the impression that they wernt adding that much to the `new` gnome :S
[16:15] <eikelmt> i have both installed and when i am using gnome it is connecting easily to internet, better than kde
[16:15] <gunsofbrixton> hi, what program would you suggest to schedule backups?
[16:15] <James147> but either way, this isnt the channel for discussing it :)
[16:16] <eikelmt> but that might be me and not kde
[16:16] <eikelmt> ok james let me logout and activate gnome network manager
[16:16] <James147> eikelmt: its kde... knetworkmanager is a tempory placeholder while they get the network widget working, i think it sdue to eb in the next version of kubuntu
[16:17] <James147> gunsofbrixton: luckybackup is emnt to be quite good
[16:18] <eikelmt> thanks james and see you around
[16:19] <gunsofbrixton> James147: tnx, I'll check it out
[16:21] <Khaotic> any clue why it says my flash drives are connected when they arent?
[16:22] <James147> Khaotic: 'connected' or mounted?
[16:22] <Khaotic> mounted
[16:22] <Khaotic> whats the difference
[16:23] <James147> Khaotic: connected implys that the drives are pluged in but not mounted, mounted implys that you can access the contents of the drive
[16:23] <Khaotic> ok, well connected
[16:23] <Khaotic> says i cant connect to them
[16:23] <Khaotic> what do i do?
[16:24] <James147> Khaotic: so the device notifier is listing them, but wont let you connect?
[16:25] <Khaotic> yes
[16:25] <Khaotic> well not the notifier
[16:25] <Khaotic> but the mediafolder
[16:25] <James147> Khaotic: /media  ?
[16:25] <Khaotic> yes
[16:26] <James147> Khaotic: that just means soemthing forgot to delete the mount points... not that anything actually knows about the drives
[16:26] <Khaotic> yeh
[16:26] <Khaotic> howdo i fix that?
[16:27] <James147> Khaotic: if you are sure they drives arnt mounted (run "mount" in the terminal to see mounted drives) then you can simply delete the folders (in terminal: sudo rm /media/MOUNTPOINT)
[16:27] <Khaotic> ok
[16:27] <James147> Khaotic: but it really dosent matter if they exist
[16:28] <Khaotic> any clue why it says my flash drives are connected when they arent?
[16:28] <Khaotic> woops
[16:29] <Khaotic> rm: cannot remove `PROGRAMMING': Is a directory
[16:30] <James147> Khaotic: sorry :) sudo rm -r /media/MOUNTPOINT
[16:31] <Khaotic> -r?
[16:31] <James147> Khaotic: if you have trouble mounting the drives you might need ot recreate the mount points
[16:32] <James147> Khaotic: means recursive... needed to delete folders
[16:32] <Khaotic> they mounted :)
[16:32] <James147> Khaotic: if you ahve mounted them then why are you trying to remove the mount points?
[16:33] <James147> Khaotic: now I am confused :S what are you trying to do :S
[16:33] <Khaotic> James147 they wouldnt mount at first
[16:34] <James147> Khaotic: but now they do ?
[16:34] <Khaotic> yes
[16:34] <James147> Khaotic: then dont use the rm command :S sorry, thourght you where trying to delete leftover mount points
[16:34] <Khaotic> i was
[16:34] <Khaotic> just dont worry about it
[16:35] <Khaotic> problem solved
[17:45] <vbgunz> is there an easy way to take all the packages I have in /var/cache/apt and turn it into an offline repository for myself?
[18:07] <TeslaTony> What's a good replacement for knetworkmanager for Kubuntu Netbook Remix?
[18:10] <James147> TeslaTony: the gnome version works slightly better (install: network-manager-gnome  kill knetworkmanager and runn nm-applet)
[18:11] <James147> TeslaTony: although dosent look as good :(
[18:17] <Guest93843> hey guys
[18:21] <joona> Hi
[18:21] <Guest93843> whats uo
[18:21] <joona> bad
[18:22] <Guest93843> ?
[18:22] <joona> I get Segmentation Fault every time I try to run Synaptic or Fusion icon..
[18:22] <Guest93843> i'm new to linux so i don't know what that means
[18:22] <joona> k
[18:45] <harmizi> hi all
[18:51] <nuboon2age_> How do you tell KPackageKit to 'Remove Completely'/Purge a package?
[18:52] <jschall> I'd like to use different kwallets for different passwords - for example, a kwallet with no password for my wifi credentials. I've tried just moving the wifi stuff into a different kwallet, but then networkmanager can't find them.
[18:52] <jschall> any way of doing this?
[18:52] <James147> nuboon2age_: not sure it can... you can use "sudo aptitude purge <packagename>" to do it in a terminal
[18:54] <James147> jschall: Last I heard kwallet supported multiple passwords but no one used them... I think its up to the application to decide if you can use a non default wallet and non of them implment that
[18:54] <James147> multiple wallets ^^
[18:54] <jschall> James147: that's stupid.
[18:54] <jschall> James147: i've yet to see an application that let me choose
[18:54] <James147> jschall: it was part of the design to keep kwallet as lightweight as possible
[18:55] <jschall> James147: well here's the problem with that:
[18:55] <jschall> James147: "ok, i don't want to type a password EVERY TIME MY COMPUTER STARTS AFTER I'VE ALREADY TYPED MY PASSWORD, so I'll just SET THIS THING UP SO IT DOESNT EVER ASK ME FOR A PASSWORD"
[18:55] <jschall> James147: which is a very insecure thing to do
[18:56] <James147> jschall: i know... its been debated before :) you can in the networkmanager config set it to store the passphrases in a plane text file iif you wish
[18:57] <jschall> James147: because as it is, kwallet is the most annoying thing EVER
[18:57] <nuboon2age_> James147: thank you.  Yes, I was wondering KPackageKit was capable of doing it.  I was working w/ someone (even) less Linux/Kubuntu aware than me and so was hoping that a non-CL, non-Synaptic Kubuntu way was available.
[18:57] <James147> jschall: i only found it anoying when it stored my wirelesss key, which are now in a normal file :)
[18:57] <Folkist> anyone know how to make a bootable usb on a mac?
[18:57] <Folkist> ubuntu 9.1
[19:00] <jschall> James147: that's another thing that irks me, knetworkmanager's way of handling wifi bugs me.
[19:00] <jschall> James147: maybe i'm just in an irritable mood today
[19:00] <James147> jschall: knetworkmanager is jsut a tempory placeholder while they get the network widget working... i bleave its going to be in the next release but I am not sure :)
[19:01] <James147> jschall: in the meantime if knetworkmanager is playing up you can try the gnome version
[19:02] <jschall> James147: cool
[19:02] <jschall> James147: it's not THAT bad, but I am glad it's going away
[19:02] <James147> jschall: it was never ment to be good, only work untill it was replaced :)
[19:02] <jschall> James147: lot of stuff to look forward to in the next release, as usual
[19:03] <jschall> James147: new releases always make me happy :)
[19:03] <James147> jschall: same :)
[19:03] <James147> jschall: i think they are aiming to get samba and printing sorted out by then as well
[19:04] <jschall> James147: cool, printing seems to work for me, although I have an printer that plays pretty nice
[19:11] <henkka-> hey
[19:11] <henkka-> is there a mirc like irc client for kubuntu
[19:11] <henkka-> ?
[19:16] <vot> yea its called mirc under wine
[19:16] <vot> its strangely identical
[19:30] <c3l> whats is the kde controll center/system settings called? so I can start it from commandline.
[19:30] <nuboon2age_> henkka-: I like Konversation .  I vaguely remember mirc and liking it, so maybe Konversation would appeal to you to.  Haven't tried quassel.
[19:30] <James147> c3l: systemsettings
[19:31] <c3l> James147: thank
[19:31] <nuboon2age_> henkka-: did you get your Go game on?  I found Kigo after we chated, that i think uses gnugo on the back end.
[19:36] <c3l> where is colorshemes normally stored?
[19:37] <henkka-> no i didnt
[19:38] <c3l> found it /usr/share/kde4/apps/color-schemes
[19:39] <joona> Hey
[19:39] <joona> Anyone having Segmentation Faults with Synaptic or Fusion icon?
[19:40] <jimmy51_> can i make dolphin always and only open in "Details" view?
[19:40] <James147> joona: you might want to ask in #ubuntu :)
[19:40] <joona> I'm using Kubuntu :P
[19:41] <c3l> joona: general ubuntu questions in #ubuntu, #kubuntu is more kde specifik. (i hope)
[19:41] <James147> joona: yeah but Synaptic is a gnome app a believe
[19:42] <James147> you are more likly to find ppl there that know how to fix it
[19:42] <joona> Okay, sorry about the interruption
[19:42] <c3l> the only difference betwee kubuntu and ubuntu is the DE, the operative systems are identical
[19:42] <c3l> joona: (there are also alot more users in #ubuntu to help you :)
[19:44] <James147> jimmy51_: dolphin > settings > configure dolphin > general > check "Use common view properties for all folders" then switch to details view
[19:45] <lucjan> siema
[19:46] <jimmy51_> James147: WOW!  i've been in and out of the settings area many times and would never have knew what that meant
[19:46] <jimmy51_> James147: thanks!
[20:13] <human> w
[20:14] <human> Who have tryed KDE4/5?
[20:14] <James147> human: I have
[20:14] <James147> human: but you really should just ask your question :)
[20:15] <human> Is it faster?
[20:15] <James147> human: dident knotice :S
[20:15] <human> I do not want to crash my current system)
[20:15] <James147> although I have been on it a while and can barly remember what 4.4 was like :)
[20:15] <James147> human: then dont upgrade, 4.5 isent out yet
[20:15] <human> But Sometimes my KDE does not allow me to work and play Sauer)
[20:16] <human> The kde 4.3 was to hard after 3.5
[20:16] <human> But I liked the moon widget and cannot imagine my life without it(
[20:16] <James147> human: :) if you need a preformance bost try disabling some desktop effects or strigi
[20:17] <human> I am thinking about rewriting Qt4 on assembler)
[20:18] <human> Or about bying new computer
[20:18] <James147> human: heh i think buying a new computer would be easier and quicker :p
[20:18] <human> Or the newest fastest verstion of KDE4)
[20:19] <human> I think so, but I think have to spend a lot of time to move the settings and reconfigure it
[20:19] <James147> human: move the harddisk over?
[20:19] <human> And it will be not good if the new computer will be slow for KDE4
[20:20] <human> Yeah, gentlemen! Is there any program to move partitions? I think it must be.
[20:20] <human> :)
[20:20] <human> I am ..
[20:20] <James147> there are many ways to copy a partition :)
[20:26] <human> Oh!
[20:26] <human> What was the time, when I have firstly installed Linux in 2005, it was a disk of 2002)
[20:26] <human> And it worked fast!
[21:13] <grifo74> how can i open dolphin in root mode?
[21:16] <rork> grifo74: kdesudo dolphin
[21:59] <grifo74> thanks work
[22:08] <chevelle> hi people
[22:09] <chevelle> i need help for configure my sound input
[22:09] <chevelle> not found
[22:35] <snarkster> if the test button in multimedia makes sound but nothing else does what does that mean?
[22:35] <snarkster> no sound from videos, music
[22:40] <snarkster> hmm even mpg123 wont make sound..
[22:41] <snarkster> guess Im missing the mp3 library
[22:51] <snarkster> its working now. thanks for nothing
[23:07] <team_steeze> hello
[23:08] <team_steeze>  i'm having a weird sound issue
[23:08] <team_steeze>  i hear no sound in kubuntu but can hear sound just fine in all of my other terminals (tty2 tty3 etc...)
[23:08] <team_steeze> i'm on 8.10
[23:08] <team_steeze> so if i start playing something in kubuntu (tty7)
[23:09] <team_steeze> i hear nothing
[23:09] <team_steeze> but if i switch to any other terminal, i hear the sound
[23:10] <team_steeze> any ideas? i'm 'bout out of options...
[23:11] <espadan7> Hay ummm I'm using Kubuntu 10.04 32bit right now and I'm trying to make a side panel on kubuntu but when i a red x always pops up at the bottom of them panel, Is there a way to remove the x or is that the way its made?
[23:17] <Torch> espadan7: once you're done configuring the panel, lock the widgets
[23:18] <Torch> espadan7: that will make the yellowish thingy to configure it go away and also the red X
[23:21] <espadan7> Torch Thank you so for =]
[23:21] <compilerwriter> anyone know of a chat channel for open office?
[23:21] <espadan7> much for your help*
[23:27] <compilerwriter> I need a calc guru if there is one availiable.
[23:28] <James147> compilerwriter: just ask your question :)
[23:28] <compilerwriter> Well this isn't really the right channel I am trying to find someone who can help privately james147
[23:30] <James147> compilerwriter: no, but you are alot more likly to find someone if you ask a question then if you try to find someone
[23:32] <compilerwriter> I can't seem to remember how to do what I want to do.  Worse yet I can't remember what it is called to look it up for myself.  In calc I have columns A B and C I need to sort sort the information by the value in column be but without changing anything in the adjacent rows.
[23:34] <Torch> compilerwriter: just select the column you want to sort.
[23:34] <Torch> compilerwriter: then sort. calc will ask if that is what you really want. say yes ;-)
[23:34] <Tazzypillar> Hello! I sorta need help not really, but sometimes the Kwin effects just...don't happen. Is that just normal for Kwin at this point or have i got something set up wrong?
[23:35] <compilerwriter> I need to keep the rows correlated with the value in B as well.
[23:35] <Tazzypillar> Also, for some reason my instances of plasma desktop keep showing up in my tasks
[23:35] <Tazzypillar> taskbar
[23:35] <Tazzypillar> i've got no idea why, and it isnt a huge deal, but having the icon there when it shouldn't be
[23:36] <Torch> Tazzypillar: kde version?
[23:36] <Tazzypillar> currently? I'm pretty sure i'm running 4.5, but i'm nooot sure, where can i check?
[23:36] <Torch> Tazzypillar: any kde app. help menu. about kde.
[23:37] <Tazzypillar> 4.5 RC
[23:38] <Torch> Tazzypillar: hmm. doesn't happen here. the taskbar problem i've seen somewhen in the 4.4 cycle, though. not happening anymore for me.
[23:38] <Tazzypillar> i see
[23:38] <Tazzypillar> i think the taskbar thing showed up around the time i got amsn
[23:39] <Tazzypillar> but my bigger issue is the thing with the animations
[23:39] <Tazzypillar> since, you know, eyecandy slut is me
[23:39] <Torch> Tazzypillar: haven't noticed anything being wrong with it, but i turn most of that off... since, you know, work slut is me ;-)
[23:39] <Tazzypillar> minimizing works fine, but the kde menu sometimes doesnt slide up, just pops up. same with closing my windows and opening them, sometimes they just appear
[23:40] <Tazzypillar> the two extremes ;w;