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kenvandinecjohnston, that's great...00:56
cjohnstonkenvandine: your gone for the week?02:10
waltercoolUbuntu 10.10, will use metacity, compiz or gnome-shell ??? Because gnome-shell is very slow (for me)02:28
* micahg doesn't think gnome-shell is in the running for 10.10 default02:29
waltercoolso, will be a extra package?02:31
micahgwaltercool: it's in universe at the moment02:31
micahgwaltercool: it has a build failure02:32
waltercoolmicahg, bad compilation?02:32
micahgwaltercool: well, somethings not working, the version that's in the pool should be installable again today02:33
waltercoolmicahg, ohh, gnome-shell seems great, but bad working... if is fixed... should be great :) Seems nice :)02:35
micahgwaltercool: well, there's an update from 2.28 to 2.31, but someone needs to fix the build failure ( I might try later this week)02:36
waltercoolmicahg, is better wait to gnome team to fix that :) Or is a ubuntu problem? (maybe dependences)02:38
micahgwaltercool: Ubuntu issue02:46
waltercoolexist a site with the compilation status of ubuntu-desktop?02:48
TheMusoo/c07:30
pittiGood morning08:54
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kenvandinecjohnston, sort of... sprinting in prague09:04
didrocksRAOF: a better stacktrace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/465817/10:01
didrocksRAOF: do you have the "DEBUG: Unable to create proxy for /org/moblin/UX/Shell/Toolbar"… ?10:15
TheMuso1/aw10:34
and471mpt, hey11:00
mptheyyyyyyy11:00
and471mpt, you in prague?11:01
mptand471, yep11:01
mptand so is davmor211:01
and471mpt, how is it there?11:01
mptIt's weird, we're not in a basement11:01
and471hehe11:01
davmor2mpt: I'm not11:02
mptOh dear, I'm confusing davmor2 with another Dave11:03
and471mpt, anyway, I did a little bit of work on SC (got ditracted a bit on my own project) but there is one question I wanted to ask, in this pic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=in-progress.jpg , for the number in the in progress entry, are the colours meant to be the gtk theme's colors, what font etc.11:03
and471mpt, that is mean taunting davmor2 like that :D11:03
davmor2:')11:04
mptI was thinking of Daviey11:04
davmor2:'( even11:04
mptand471, mmnz_ told me that implementing that wouldn't be possible until he'd done a custom tree view for the navigation pane. Have you worked out how to do it regardless?11:05
and471mpt, oh, well I was just thinking of doing a normal pixbuf and that doesn't need to be re-implemented11:05
mptok11:05
and471mpt, maybe he had another idea of how to do it, but a pixbuf is the simplest and easiest11:06
and471mpt, it was becuase I was implemented the /i\ icon for the broken apt cache, and so I though I could use the same column for both11:06
mptand471, I hadn't really thought about colors. How about the pane background color (e.g. white) for the number, and the disabled text color (e.g. grey) for the lozenge background?11:06
and471*implementing11:06
and471mpt, ok, also one more question, in this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=catalog-broken-navigation-pane.jpg11:07
and471the icon it uses is for the danger icon11:07
and471a broken apt cache doesn't seem dangerous to me, would the warning icon be better?11:07
mptand471, there should be a stock icon for that11:07
mptThat is the warning icon, right?11:08
mptIt's not dangerous, so much as something that needs fixing11:09
and471mpt, in Humanity, the stock icon for warning is a round icon with a ! so a ( ! ) instead of a /!\11:10
and471mpt, I was just checking this was ok11:10
and471mpt, or whether the triangular one was really wanted11:10
mptand471, what color is the (!) ?11:10
mptin Humanity11:10
mptI don't remember seeing that icon anywhere11:11
and471mpt, I'll show you a screenshot, it might be easier to visualise11:11
mptthanks11:11
mpthi kiwinote, how's it going11:11
kiwinotehi mpt11:11
and471kiwinote, ah sorry, how is it going?11:12
kiwinotempt, this morning i rounded off the startup speed improvements branch. there is still more that can come, but it is a good improvement for now11:13
kiwinotehi and47111:13
and471mpt, http://imagebin.org/10591411:13
kiwinotethen i tried to get my 64bit install to boot to do some testing, but no luck so far..11:13
and471mpt, that is GTK_STOCK_DIALOG_WARNING11:14
kiwinoteand471, nice! broken aptcache I assume?11:14
and471mpt, or wait, maybe I have something wrong11:14
and471kiwinote, yup :)11:14
and471mpt, give me a sec, I might be confusing myself...11:14
and471mpt, okay, right that is GTK_STOCK_DIALOG_WARNING11:15
and471mpt, there is an emblem-danger in Humanity which is a /!\, but as I said, I don't think it is dangerous11:17
vishand471: Humanity/status/24/dialog-warning.svg is a /!\11:18
and471hi vish :)11:19
visho/ :)11:19
mptand471, is it just Elementary being weird?11:19
and471mpt, uhoh, maybe... gimme a sec11:19
vishyup...11:19
vishmpt: we just try to keep some difference :D11:19
and471mpt vish sorry, it was just me being stupid, everything is fine, the /!\ icon is shown as it should be :)11:20
mptok11:20
and471mpt, in which case I have no more questions :)11:20
vishlol!11:20
mptThe prosecution rests.11:20
and471:D11:20
kiwinotempt: out of interest, are you at guadec next week?11:21
mptkiwinote, yes, all next week11:21
kiwinotempt: nice11:22
mptand471, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=diff&rev2=398&rev1=39711:22
and471mpt, hehe thanks :)11:22
and471mpt, I may not be able to do much work on SC this week, but maybe by mid week I should have most of what I can implement with the broken apt cache (I need mvo to do a little bit)11:23
mptcool11:24
and471vish, I am working furiously on my new screencasting app :)11:26
and471its gonna be awesome :)11:26
vishcool!11:27
and471vish, http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/introducing-a-screencaster-called-kazam/11:28
vishand471: yeah , i'v seen that.. sounds neat! , though i hope you would fix more papercuts :p11:29
and471vish, hehe :)11:29
* and471 has to go to eat and play tennis (but not simultaneously)11:30
vishmpt: instead of using the gtk-stock icons its better to use "dialog-warning" and such , the gtk icons are going to be removed from gnome..11:52
vishthey dont want to depend on the symlinks and icon naming utils..11:54
vishonly the icon from fdo naming spec will remain in the long run.11:55
vishicons*11:55
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vishhttp://www.bomahy.nl/hylke/blog/were-removing-icons-again/11:59
vishmpt: http://live.gnome.org/GtkNamingSpecInvestigation12:01
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alf__didrocks: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=58824413:46
ubot2Debian bug 588244 in clutter-1.0 "Clutter eglx packaging" [Wishlist,Open]13:46
bcurtiswxempathy doesn't show seb128 here, but is he?13:52
bcurtiswx(i know of a bug with empathy not showing people on channel users list)13:53
chrisccoulsonbcurtiswx, no13:53
chrisccoulsonbut he's sat opposite13:53
bcurtiswxchrisccoulson: OK, is this an OK place to ask a question on patches?13:55
bcurtiswxits to empathy13:55
chrisccoulsonbcurtiswx, feel free13:55
bcurtiswxre bug #606317 its what i think is a simple addition to debian/control of a depends on libdconf0.  Is this correct?13:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 606317 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy don't remeber perosnal setting and revert to some sort of default at every start (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 1701)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60631713:56
dpmdidrocks, would it be possible to strip the '-2.30' suffix from the evolution-2.30.pot template in the evolution package? We've now got two templates in maverick in LP, and that seems to cause some trouble exporting the translations in language packs. I think seb128 did that in previous versions, but I'm not quite sure how.13:58
bcurtiswxchrisccoulson: maybe kenvandine would be better for this question since he works with empathy uploads?13:59
didrocksdpm: ok, I'll ask him. Do you know where this pot file is? source only?14:02
kenvandinebcurtiswx, i think seb128 was just talking about that14:02
didrocksalf__: thanks14:02
bcurtiswxkenvandine: in the bug he mentioned making libglib2.0-0 recommends to a depends.  i wanted to make the patch, but i don't know/don't see where to do this14:04
kenvandinebcurtiswx, which bug?14:05
bcurtiswxi thought it was debian/control  but i don't see that in recommends14:05
bcurtiswxbug #60631714:05
ubot2Launchpad bug 606317 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy don't remeber perosnal setting and revert to some sort of default at every start (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 1701)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60631714:05
dpmdidrocks, thanks! I think it's the one generated by the package during build, I don't think it's in the sources under the po folder14:06
kenvandineoh... he meant in the glib package14:06
kenvandinenot empathy14:07
bcurtiswxkenvandine: OK, i can still write a patch for that.14:07
kenvandinelibglib2.0-0 needs to depend on libdconf014:07
* bcurtiswx will look to see if its not done already14:07
kenvandinebetter to use bzr14:11
kenvandinebzr branch lp:~ubuntu-desktop/glib2/ubuntu14:11
kenvandinei think14:11
kenvandinebzr branch lp:~ubuntu-desktop/glib/ubuntu14:11
seb128who wants to change glib?14:12
bcurtiswxseb128: i was going to check it to see if you made libdconf0 depends.. if not i was going to write patch14:13
bcurtiswxseb128: i guess since its trivial, my patch would be futile14:14
chrisccoulsonwhy would glib depend on libdconf?14:14
bcurtiswxchrisccoulson: bug #60631714:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 606317 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy don't remeber perosnal setting and revert to some sort of default at every start (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 1701)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60631714:14
didrocksalf__: can you join #debian-gnome on OFTC, please?14:18
seb128bcurtiswx, no, but I plan to merge other debian changes so don't bother14:18
bcurtiswxseb128: OK14:19
bcurtiswxseb128: for future note, a "bzr diff > packagename.patch" uploaded to bug would suffice?14:20
seb128bcurtiswx, yes14:22
bcurtiswxseb128: OK, thx.  Time to head to work.  adios14:24
didrocksdpm: ok, I'll have a look :)14:29
seb128dpm, no14:33
seb128dpm, the version is changing every cycle14:33
seb128dpm, somebody needs to approve the new template in launchpad14:33
mptvish, ok, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=diff&rev2=399&rev1=39815:04
ogradidrocks, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-m-lightweight-panel-for-efl last WI is yours :)15:38
didrocksogra: thanks :)15:43
dobeyanyone know if there's a way to make dpkg-buildpackage delete the .deb and associated files that it created while doing a build?16:08
dobeyor to get a simple list of the files?16:08
Zdraat the end of the build it says the deb created afaik16:09
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dobeyZdra: somewhere during the build, it spits out the name of each deb file created, yeah, but i'd have to trap all output and write a parser to deal with it :(16:10
dobeyZdra: i was just hoping for some sort of 'clean' command, or a dh_listbinaries or something :)16:10
Zdraah, for an automatic16:11
Zdrascript16:11
Zdradunno then16:11
dobeyyeah, manually, i could just cd .., do an ls, and rm -f the files :)16:12
dobeyi guess i could just do something similar16:13
didrockspedro_: jcastro: can we make a bug day on banshee? There are a lot of untriaged bugs and it will be good to do that before promoting it to main :)16:14
pedro_didrocks, sure, first week of August sounds good?16:16
didrockspedro_: awesome!16:16
pedro_jcastro,  ^16:16
* didrocks hugs pedro_16:16
pedro_didrocks, ok i'm scheduling it now ;-)16:16
* pedro_ hugs didrocks back16:16
* lamalex will be in London..16:27
lamalexfor banshee hugday that is16:27
glatzorhello mvo, just a short notice: I fixed the sync calls of aptdaemon in trunk16:30
glatzormvo, see you!16:31
mvohey glatzor16:34
mvoglatzor: nice, you rock ! \o/16:34
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TheMuso.c17:06
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AnAntHello, where can I get help regarding audio problems ?17:49
and471AnAnt, try #ubuntu17:50
AnAnttried that17:50
and471AnAnt, well this channel is for development so not really the place, also many devs are currently sprinting in Prague and so won't be here17:51
and471oh, or don't stay to listen :-(17:51
geserdobey: why not use "apt-cache showsrc <srcpkg> | grep Binary:"? or do I don't understand what you want to accomplish?18:26
dobeygeser: because that doesn't work for something that's not in the apt-cache. i'm trying to make some automagical testing happen for landing changes to a branch that only has packaging info in it (and it only builds 'virtual' packages taht depend on other things), but I don't want to have the parent dir get filled up with the built packages. i just want to make sure the package builds successfully and trap any lint errors18:29
dobeybut i made a workaround to deal with the built files in .. for now18:30
dobeynow i'm hitting another issue, though. as piping output to tee causes the exit code to always be 0, even if bzr bd fails (eg with "bzr bd -- -ptrue")18:31
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