[00:56] <kenvandine> cjohnston, that's great...
[02:10] <cjohnston> kenvandine: your gone for the week?
[02:28] <waltercool> Ubuntu 10.10, will use metacity, compiz or gnome-shell ??? Because gnome-shell is very slow (for me)
[02:29]  * micahg doesn't think gnome-shell is in the running for 10.10 default
[02:31] <waltercool> so, will be a extra package?
[02:31] <micahg> waltercool: it's in universe at the moment
[02:32] <micahg> waltercool: it has a build failure
[02:32] <waltercool> micahg, bad compilation?
[02:33] <micahg> waltercool: well, somethings not working, the version that's in the pool should be installable again today
[02:35] <waltercool> micahg, ohh, gnome-shell seems great, but bad working... if is fixed... should be great :) Seems nice :)
[02:36] <micahg> waltercool: well, there's an update from 2.28 to 2.31, but someone needs to fix the build failure ( I might try later this week)
[02:38] <waltercool> micahg, is better wait to gnome team to fix that :) Or is a ubuntu problem? (maybe dependences)
[02:46] <micahg> waltercool: Ubuntu issue
[02:48] <waltercool> exist a site with the compilation status of ubuntu-desktop?
[07:30] <TheMuso> o/c
[08:54] <pitti> Good morning
[09:04] <kenvandine> cjohnston, sort of... sprinting in prague
[10:01] <didrocks> RAOF: a better stacktrace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/465817/
[10:15] <didrocks> RAOF: do you have the "DEBUG: Unable to create proxy for /org/moblin/UX/Shell/Toolbar"… ?
[10:34] <TheMuso> 1/aw
[11:00] <and471> mpt, hey
[11:00] <mpt> heyyyyyyy
[11:01] <and471> mpt, you in prague?
[11:01] <mpt> and471, yep
[11:01] <mpt> and so is davmor2
[11:01] <and471> mpt, how is it there?
[11:01] <mpt> It's weird, we're not in a basement
[11:01] <and471> hehe
[11:02] <davmor2> mpt: I'm not
[11:03] <mpt> Oh dear, I'm confusing davmor2 with another Dave
[11:03] <and471> mpt, anyway, I did a little bit of work on SC (got ditracted a bit on my own project) but there is one question I wanted to ask, in this pic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=in-progress.jpg , for the number in the in progress entry, are the colours meant to be the gtk theme's colors, what font etc.
[11:03] <and471> mpt, that is mean taunting davmor2 like that :D
[11:04] <davmor2> :')
[11:04] <mpt> I was thinking of Daviey
[11:04] <davmor2> :'( even
[11:05] <mpt> and471, mmnz_ told me that implementing that wouldn't be possible until he'd done a custom tree view for the navigation pane. Have you worked out how to do it regardless?
[11:05] <and471> mpt, oh, well I was just thinking of doing a normal pixbuf and that doesn't need to be re-implemented
[11:05] <mpt> ok
[11:06] <and471> mpt, maybe he had another idea of how to do it, but a pixbuf is the simplest and easiest
[11:06] <and471> mpt, it was becuase I was implemented the /i\ icon for the broken apt cache, and so I though I could use the same column for both
[11:06] <mpt> and471, I hadn't really thought about colors. How about the pane background color (e.g. white) for the number, and the disabled text color (e.g. grey) for the lozenge background?
[11:06] <and471> *implementing
[11:07] <and471> mpt, ok, also one more question, in this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=catalog-broken-navigation-pane.jpg
[11:07] <and471> the icon it uses is for the danger icon
[11:07] <and471> a broken apt cache doesn't seem dangerous to me, would the warning icon be better?
[11:07] <mpt> and471, there should be a stock icon for that
[11:08] <mpt> That is the warning icon, right?
[11:09] <mpt> It's not dangerous, so much as something that needs fixing
[11:10] <and471> mpt, in Humanity, the stock icon for warning is a round icon with a ! so a ( ! ) instead of a /!\
[11:10] <and471> mpt, I was just checking this was ok
[11:10] <and471> mpt, or whether the triangular one was really wanted
[11:10] <mpt> and471, what color is the (!) ?
[11:10] <mpt> in Humanity
[11:11] <mpt> I don't remember seeing that icon anywhere
[11:11] <and471> mpt, I'll show you a screenshot, it might be easier to visualise
[11:11] <mpt> thanks
[11:11] <mpt> hi kiwinote, how's it going
[11:11] <kiwinote> hi mpt
[11:12] <and471> kiwinote, ah sorry, how is it going?
[11:13] <kiwinote> mpt, this morning i rounded off the startup speed improvements branch. there is still more that can come, but it is a good improvement for now
[11:13] <kiwinote> hi and471
[11:13] <and471> mpt, http://imagebin.org/105914
[11:13] <kiwinote> then i tried to get my 64bit install to boot to do some testing, but no luck so far..
[11:14] <and471> mpt, that is GTK_STOCK_DIALOG_WARNING
[11:14] <kiwinote> and471, nice! broken aptcache I assume?
[11:14] <and471> mpt, or wait, maybe I have something wrong
[11:14] <and471> kiwinote, yup :)
[11:14] <and471> mpt, give me a sec, I might be confusing myself...
[11:15] <and471> mpt, okay, right that is GTK_STOCK_DIALOG_WARNING
[11:17] <and471> mpt, there is an emblem-danger in Humanity which is a /!\, but as I said, I don't think it is dangerous
[11:18] <vish> and471: Humanity/status/24/dialog-warning.svg is a /!\
[11:19] <and471> hi vish :)
[11:19] <vish> o/ :)
[11:19] <mpt> and471, is it just Elementary being weird?
[11:19] <and471> mpt, uhoh, maybe... gimme a sec
[11:19] <vish> yup...
[11:19] <vish> mpt: we just try to keep some difference :D
[11:20] <and471> mpt vish sorry, it was just me being stupid, everything is fine, the /!\ icon is shown as it should be :)
[11:20] <mpt> ok
[11:20] <and471> mpt, in which case I have no more questions :)
[11:20] <vish> lol!
[11:20] <mpt> The prosecution rests.
[11:20] <and471> :D
[11:21] <kiwinote> mpt: out of interest, are you at guadec next week?
[11:21] <mpt> kiwinote, yes, all next week
[11:22] <kiwinote> mpt: nice
[11:22] <mpt> and471, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=diff&rev2=398&rev1=397
[11:22] <and471> mpt, hehe thanks :)
[11:23] <and471> mpt, I may not be able to do much work on SC this week, but maybe by mid week I should have most of what I can implement with the broken apt cache (I need mvo to do a little bit)
[11:24] <mpt> cool
[11:26] <and471> vish, I am working furiously on my new screencasting app :)
[11:26] <and471> its gonna be awesome :)
[11:27] <vish> cool!
[11:28] <and471> vish, http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/introducing-a-screencaster-called-kazam/
[11:29] <vish> and471: yeah , i'v seen that.. sounds neat! , though i hope you would fix more papercuts :p
[11:29] <and471> vish, hehe :)
[11:30]  * and471 has to go to eat and play tennis (but not simultaneously)
[11:52] <vish> mpt: instead of using the gtk-stock icons its better to use "dialog-warning" and such , the gtk icons are going to be removed from gnome..
[11:54] <vish> they dont want to depend on the symlinks and icon naming utils..
[11:55] <vish> only the icon from fdo naming spec will remain in the long run.
[11:55] <vish> icons*
[11:59] <vish> http://www.bomahy.nl/hylke/blog/were-removing-icons-again/
[12:01] <vish> mpt: http://live.gnome.org/GtkNamingSpecInvestigation
[13:46] <alf__> didrocks: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=588244
[13:46] <ubot2> Debian bug 588244 in clutter-1.0 "Clutter eglx packaging" [Wishlist,Open]
[13:52] <bcurtiswx> empathy doesn't show seb128 here, but is he?
[13:53] <bcurtiswx> (i know of a bug with empathy not showing people on channel users list)
[13:53] <chrisccoulson> bcurtiswx, no
[13:53] <chrisccoulson> but he's sat opposite
[13:55] <bcurtiswx> chrisccoulson: OK, is this an OK place to ask a question on patches?
[13:55] <bcurtiswx> its to empathy
[13:55] <chrisccoulson> bcurtiswx, feel free
[13:56] <bcurtiswx> re bug #606317 its what i think is a simple addition to debian/control of a depends on libdconf0.  Is this correct?
[13:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 606317 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy don't remeber perosnal setting and revert to some sort of default at every start (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 1701)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606317
[13:58] <dpm> didrocks, would it be possible to strip the '-2.30' suffix from the evolution-2.30.pot template in the evolution package? We've now got two templates in maverick in LP, and that seems to cause some trouble exporting the translations in language packs. I think seb128 did that in previous versions, but I'm not quite sure how.
[13:59] <bcurtiswx> chrisccoulson: maybe kenvandine would be better for this question since he works with empathy uploads?
[14:02] <didrocks> dpm: ok, I'll ask him. Do you know where this pot file is? source only?
[14:02] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, i think seb128 was just talking about that
[14:02] <didrocks> alf__: thanks
[14:04] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine: in the bug he mentioned making libglib2.0-0 recommends to a depends.  i wanted to make the patch, but i don't know/don't see where to do this
[14:05] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, which bug?
[14:05] <bcurtiswx> i thought it was debian/control  but i don't see that in recommends
[14:05] <bcurtiswx> bug #606317
[14:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 606317 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy don't remeber perosnal setting and revert to some sort of default at every start (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 1701)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606317
[14:06] <dpm> didrocks, thanks! I think it's the one generated by the package during build, I don't think it's in the sources under the po folder
[14:06] <kenvandine> oh... he meant in the glib package
[14:07] <kenvandine> not empathy
[14:07] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine: OK, i can still write a patch for that.
[14:07] <kenvandine> libglib2.0-0 needs to depend on libdconf0
[14:07]  * bcurtiswx will look to see if its not done already
[14:11] <kenvandine> better to use bzr
[14:11] <kenvandine> bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-desktop/glib2/ubuntu
[14:11] <kenvandine> i think
[14:11] <kenvandine> bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-desktop/glib/ubuntu
[14:12] <seb128> who wants to change glib?
[14:13] <bcurtiswx> seb128: i was going to check it to see if you made libdconf0 depends.. if not i was going to write patch
[14:14] <bcurtiswx> seb128: i guess since its trivial, my patch would be futile
[14:14] <chrisccoulson> why would glib depend on libdconf?
[14:14] <bcurtiswx> chrisccoulson: bug #606317
[14:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 606317 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy don't remeber perosnal setting and revert to some sort of default at every start (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 1701)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606317
[14:18] <didrocks> alf__: can you join #debian-gnome on OFTC, please?
[14:18] <seb128> bcurtiswx, no, but I plan to merge other debian changes so don't bother
[14:19] <bcurtiswx> seb128: OK
[14:20] <bcurtiswx> seb128: for future note, a "bzr diff > packagename.patch" uploaded to bug would suffice?
[14:22] <seb128> bcurtiswx, yes
[14:24] <bcurtiswx> seb128: OK, thx.  Time to head to work.  adios
[14:29] <didrocks> dpm: ok, I'll have a look :)
[14:33] <seb128> dpm, no
[14:33] <seb128> dpm, the version is changing every cycle
[14:33] <seb128> dpm, somebody needs to approve the new template in launchpad
[15:04] <mpt> vish, ok, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=diff&rev2=399&rev1=398
[15:38] <ogra> didrocks, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-m-lightweight-panel-for-efl last WI is yours :)
[15:43] <didrocks> ogra: thanks :)
[16:08] <dobey> anyone know if there's a way to make dpkg-buildpackage delete the .deb and associated files that it created while doing a build?
[16:08] <dobey> or to get a simple list of the files?
[16:09] <Zdra> at the end of the build it says the deb created afaik
[16:10] <dobey> Zdra: somewhere during the build, it spits out the name of each deb file created, yeah, but i'd have to trap all output and write a parser to deal with it :(
[16:10] <dobey> Zdra: i was just hoping for some sort of 'clean' command, or a dh_listbinaries or something :)
[16:11] <Zdra> ah, for an automatic
[16:11] <Zdra> script
[16:11] <Zdra> dunno then
[16:12] <dobey> yeah, manually, i could just cd .., do an ls, and rm -f the files :)
[16:13] <dobey> i guess i could just do something similar
[16:14] <didrocks> pedro_: jcastro: can we make a bug day on banshee? There are a lot of untriaged bugs and it will be good to do that before promoting it to main :)
[16:16] <pedro_> didrocks, sure, first week of August sounds good?
[16:16] <didrocks> pedro_: awesome!
[16:16] <pedro_> jcastro,  ^
[16:16]  * didrocks hugs pedro_
[16:16] <pedro_> didrocks, ok i'm scheduling it now ;-)
[16:16]  * pedro_ hugs didrocks back
[16:27]  * lamalex will be in London..
[16:27] <lamalex> for banshee hugday that is
[16:30] <glatzor> hello mvo, just a short notice: I fixed the sync calls of aptdaemon in trunk
[16:31] <glatzor> mvo, see you!
[16:34] <mvo> hey glatzor
[16:34] <mvo> glatzor: nice, you rock ! \o/
[17:06] <TheMuso> .c
[17:49] <AnAnt> Hello, where can I get help regarding audio problems ?
[17:50] <and471> AnAnt, try #ubuntu
[17:50] <AnAnt> tried that
[17:51] <and471> AnAnt, well this channel is for development so not really the place, also many devs are currently sprinting in Prague and so won't be here
[17:51] <and471> oh, or don't stay to listen :-(
[18:26] <geser> dobey: why not use "apt-cache showsrc <srcpkg> | grep Binary:"? or do I don't understand what you want to accomplish?
[18:29] <dobey> geser: because that doesn't work for something that's not in the apt-cache. i'm trying to make some automagical testing happen for landing changes to a branch that only has packaging info in it (and it only builds 'virtual' packages taht depend on other things), but I don't want to have the parent dir get filled up with the built packages. i just want to make sure the package builds successfully and trap any lint errors
[18:30] <dobey> but i made a workaround to deal with the built files in .. for now
[18:31] <dobey> now i'm hitting another issue, though. as piping output to tee causes the exit code to always be 0, even if bzr bd fails (eg with "bzr bd -- -ptrue")
[20:18] <baptistemm> hello