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lfaraoneI'm writing an email to a group of developers I'm trying to introduce to the Ubuntu ecosystem, and am attempting to explain the steps for an SRU. Would anybody have a chance to review the email before I send it out? (for technical accuracy) http://sprunge.us/XQEc00:08
devfillfaraone, you forgot to write about ~ubuntu-sru00:11
carstenhlfaraone: explaining things like triage or debdiff would help to understand what you wrote00:11
lfaraonedevfil: ah, right. this is for non-motus, so the MOTU will be doing that, right?00:11
lfaraonecarstenh: mk.00:13
devfillfaraone, you have to subscribe ~ubuntu-sru to approve the debdiff before upload (so before universe sponsor)00:14
lfaraonedevfil: that contradicts a mail I recently saw to motu00:14
micahgdevfil: no, it gets uploaded first and approved in queue00:15
lfaraonedevfil: http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-devel/2010-07/msg00069.html00:15
lfaraonedevfil: the sponsor subscribes, then, since the non-motu sponsorree cannot upload himself.00:16
devfilyes, sorry, I was MIA and I still did not read all emails :/00:16
jasemif you upload a package to ppa via dput, how long till you can see it in launchpad?01:26
ScottKRoAkSoAx: Syncing needs shell access in the Canonical data center, so no, I can't.01:36
micahgScottK: there's the sync script in u-d-t01:38
ScottKmicahg: Yes, but I think it's better to use the regular process unless there's some reason for urgency.01:40
micahgScottk01:40
micahgoops01:40
micahgScottK: ok :)01:40
micahgwgrant: I was wondering if the Ubuntuwire package list was static or dynamic01:48
wgrantmicahg: It's updated daily, IIRC.01:50
wgrantAlthough retrieving packagesets from LP sometimes times out at the moment, so it might take a couple of tries.01:50
wgrantOh, no, it's hourly.01:50
micahgwgrant: ok, geser added some packages to the set on Friday, but they don't seem to be showing up on the list01:51
wgrantmicahg: Which packages?01:55
micahgwgrant: nspluginwrapper, gxine, weave, instantbird, mongodb, mediatomb01:56
wgrantmicahg: Turns out it works better when not running against staging.02:04
micahgwgrant: ah, ok02:05
wgrantYeah, oops.02:05
wgrantmicahg: Page updated.02:06
micahgwgrant: awesome, thanks02:07
lfaraonewgrant: what's the way to get package set changes on the qa page? do you accept regexps? :)03:31
wgrantlfaraone: You win lots of points if you have an actual LP packageset.03:32
wgrantOtherwise I can use regexps on some stuff, yes.03:32
wgrantAnd maintainers, and sections, and just about anything else.03:32
lfaraonewgrant: heh, LP packagesets does not support regexps yet :)03:33
lfaraonewgrant: please add anything maintained by 'debian-olpc-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org' to the Ubuntu package set, along with anything matching sugar-*03:33
lfaraonewgrant: *to the Ubuntuwire Sugar package set03:33
wgrantlfaraone: Ah, that list at the moment is derived from the packages subscribed to by ~sugarteam.03:34
lfaraonewgrant: I see. You can only have it derive from one thing, I suspect, right? (if the sugarteam subscription works best for you, I can go around and make sure it's subscribed to all interesting packages)03:35
wgrantlfaraone: No, I can do a union easily.03:35
wgrantlfaraone: Is that any better?03:49
lfaraonewgrant: yes, thanks.03:50
lfaraoneHow can I tell if a package is blacklisted?04:28
jpdslfaraone: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/sync-blacklist.txt04:33
dupondjerunning 2 pbuilders :( killing my pc :p09:45
artfwoTheMuso, both jack-audio-connection-kit and jackd2 are in Maverick now, which of them is planned to be in main?10:34
TheMusoartfwo: All source packages will be in main. All binary packages from jackd2 and jackd-defaults will be in main, but only libjack0 and libjac-dev from jack-audio-connection-kit will be in main.11:22
artfwoTheMuso, thanks. Are you working on merging Ubuntu changes to jackd2 (drop libcelt-dev build-dependency)?11:31
TheMusoartfwo: Yes, once it comes time to get jackd2 into main, I will be doing that.11:35
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MTecknologypersia: so- are you on the membership board?13:37
RainCTpersia is everywhere :)13:40
tumbleweedYokoZar: I see you are SRUing ia32-libs. Any intention of merging the latest version from debian? (Our delta is enormous)14:21
lfaraonegeser: apologies for the late addition to the agenda, I'll understand if it gets deferred.15:08
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YokoZartumbleweed: in Maverick?  eventually18:09
tumbleweedYokoZar: feature freeze is less than a month away18:11
YokoZartumbleweed: yeah ia32-libs is one of those "special" packages...18:12
tumbleweedYokoZar: I know. I don't want to touch it because it's scary :)18:13
tumbleweedI'm asking because I have a user bugging me for stdc++5 support in it18:13
YokoZarahh I see18:14
YokoZarI'll take a look soon18:14
tumbleweedthanks18:14
YokoZarok, got to go now18:14
neerajHi all, I created patches for this bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-0.88/+bug/60121918:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 601219 in sugar-pollbuilder-activity (Ubuntu Lucid) "Sugar package files installed in wrong directory" [Undecided,Triaged]18:25
neerajNo I have been told that DebianImportFreeze is in effect.18:26
neeraj*now18:26
neerajI have been asked to build these packages using maveric pbuilder but I am a little bit confused18:28
geserI'm missing some context as I don't see DIF mentioned in any comments18:28
neerajCan anyone help me in this regard?18:29
geserwhat is exactly the problem? what you want to see done?18:29
neerajOk, I am listing the things which I have been asked to do:- http://paste.ubuntu.com/466058/18:31
neerajNow as I created the debdiff file so that they can be added/released in lucid-proposed.18:32
geserdo you have a working maverick pbuilder?18:32
shadeslayer ok question,ive packaged a plasmoid for debian,now idk how long it will take them to get it in their archives,so should i upload to revu or get it in through debian?18:33
tumbleweedshadeslayer: do you have a regular debian sponsor?18:34
shadeslayerno :(18:34
shadeslayerthis is my first debian contribution18:34
tumbleweedupload to mentors and put out an RFS. maybe someone will bite18:35
neerajgeser, sorry for my little knowledge but what extactly is maverick pbuilder?18:35
shadeslayer!pbuilder | neeraj18:35
ubottuneeraj: pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto18:35
shadeslayertumbleweed: RFS?18:35
shadeslayerohh18:35
tumbleweedrequest for sponsorship, to the mentors mailing list18:35
shadeslayerright18:35
neerajI can do that in lucid .. right?18:36
shadeslayerim already poking debian-qt-kde18:36
tumbleweedshadeslayer: does this package fit in any of the debian teams? because that's another way to get sponsorship18:36
neerajI mean setting up the environment18:36
shadeslayertumbleweed: debian-qt-kde18:36
tumbleweedyeah, team root is probably faster18:36
tumbleweedroute18:36
gesershadeslayer: my assumption is that you find easier a Debian sponsor than two MOTUs to review it on REVU18:36
tumbleweedneeraj: yes18:36
shadeslayergeser: hehe ok :D18:36
tumbleweedalso, once you have a sponsor who likes you, things get easier :)18:37
geserneeraj: yes, you can run on lucid a maverick pbuilder and check that way if a package would build in maverick18:37
shadeslayeryeah im already poking them debian sponsors,as soon as my sbuild gets finished, im all set18:37
neerajok.. thanks all for helping me out.. :)18:37
shadeslayerbtw is there a way to determine if the package is arch any or arch all?18:37
azeemdetermine in what way?18:38
shadeslayersource is here http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/packages/fastuserswitch-0.1.1/18:38
shadeslayerazeem: as in if i should build the package for all archs or just a arch indep binary will suffice18:38
tumbleweedshadeslayer: what language is it written in?18:39
azeemC18:39
shadeslayertumbleweed: i think C18:39
azeemthen it's any18:39
shadeslayerazeem: there are C++ files too18:39
azeemalso18:40
azeemall is only for binary-independet things like java bytecode or perl/python/shell scripts18:40
shadeslayerok18:41
shadeslayerso ill go with any18:41
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RoAkSoAxScottK: could you do me a favor an please sync bug #605955 :). Thank you!!19:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 605955 in cluster-glue (Ubuntu) "Sync cluster-glue 1.0.6-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60595519:02
ScottKRoAkSoAx: You need an archive admin with shell access for that.  Sorry.19:02
shadeslayerRoAkSoAx: is it a kde related package? :P19:03
RoAkSoAxScottK: oh! I thought you were one :S. Sorry about that :)19:03
RoAkSoAxshadeslayer: nope, it's a cluster related package :)19:03
shadeslayerRoAkSoAx: Riddell might sync it tomorrow :P19:03
shadeslayertheres a list of archive admins for the day19:04
ScottKRoAkSoAx: No problem.19:04
RoAkSoAxshadeslayer: will look for it. Thanks ;)19:04
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toabctli updated to 10.10 and now my computer is very very slow. the led of the harddisk is blinking all the time. any known bugs about this?20:17
micahgtoabctl: try #ubuntu+120:17
toabctlmicahg, ok. thx20:18
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tyarussoAnyone alive in here?  I'm having some trouble with debconf, specifically I don't know how to make sure the .config is actually running.  It appears that my questions are never being asked (config), and then it hangs when it tries to get the answers (postinst).21:25
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