[00:12] hi, mythbuntu 10.04 has decided to ignore the spdif/digital out on my onboard audio (snd-hda-intel on some realtek chip), how can i disable the analog audio? [00:12] digital is now being ignored across vlc/mplayer/mythtv, so im thinking alsa decided to do something obnoxious [00:15] good thing im not on pulseaudio thatd probably just make the problem worse [00:21] i was able to fix mplayer with "ao=alsa:device=iec958", but this still leaves mythtv channels, flash, etc [00:27] which all seem to agree with alsa's crotchety opinion that digital out should be ignored [00:28] nickbp: setup also to use that tuner [00:29] output* [01:31] Shadow__X: setup what? [01:34] nickbp: the sound [01:34] you know its not using the right output so you can either set it per app or you can just set it up correct [01:35] in the top bar there is a volume slider right click it and do properties [01:35] and you can change it [02:22] hello [02:22] need some basic help [02:22] just did a mythbuntu install [02:22] everything is fine [02:23] just trying to figure out where i put the video files I already [02:23] have download [02:23] anybody [02:24] are you saying you lost something you downloaded or you are looking for the recordings? [03:04] anyone home today [03:04] I need some help with mythexport [03:05] Would anyone be so kind [03:36] rileyp: whats the problem? [03:40] is there any cli tooks to setup myth backend [03:40] tools [03:43] Shadow__X: is this in xfce? [03:45] nickbp: yes [03:45] mythweb is really slow to respond andmythexport gives me a 404 error [03:46] http://pastebin.com/QiDAw8ze this is my apache2 errror log [03:47] I flushed privildges yesterday. [03:51] hello [03:51] i did a fresh [03:51] install of mythbuntu [03:51] audio files working fine [03:51] thru myth [03:52] but cant open or see avi files [03:52] any ideas [03:52] qwebirc88296: for starters lets try and keep it to just a few lines next would be did you tell mythtv where to find your media [03:52] i installed boxee on same machine [03:53] yep [03:53] boxee is working just fine [03:53] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Storage_Groups#Storage_directories [03:53] [www.mythtv.org] User Manual:MythTV structure - MythTV [03:54] it was an avi file [03:54] ok did you use the mythbuntu control center and install the codecs [03:55] yep [03:55] after i tried first [03:55] i had to go into myth and write internal for avi [03:56] or perhaps say use default [03:56] also make sure it says Internal [03:56] the other codecs had listed internal [03:56] i could give default a try [03:56] any other thoughts as to what it could be [03:58] could it be this bit about a storage directory [03:58] in the manual it says it must have a directory in the storage group [03:59] i haven't et anything up mannually yet for that [03:59] Is anyone here using mirobridge? [03:59] just trying to use the box for standalone video player [03:59] mythbuntu control center sets up miro to save videos to /root/.miro [04:00] The recordings show up in mythtv in the media library [04:00] just like that are supposed to [04:01] but they don't play because of permission problems [04:01] mythbuntu runs under a user account [04:02] why does the mythbuntu control centre configure the miro account to root? [04:02] len_, I used to use it, but I don't have a /root/.miro dir. I have a /home/thomas/.miro directory [04:02] If I install miro one its own it creates a user directory [04:03] But when I config in mythbuntu control center [04:03] well you have to have miro installed in order to mirobridge to work [04:03] it creates a it's own root version [04:03] miro is installed and working [04:03] but putting recordings in /root [04:03] len_, 10.04 or 9.10? [04:03] 10.04 [04:04] sec [04:05] len_, how did you start the control centre? [04:05] with the control center icon [04:06] qwebirc88296: if you plan to use the box as a standalone video player without recording videos mythtv isnt the best option [04:06] I'm not. I'm using it for everything [04:07] * tgm4883 points out that Shadow__X wasn't talking to len_ [04:07] And it does it is doing it just like I want it. miro downloads get intregrated right with the rest. just don't a have permission to actually view [04:07] Ah, OK :) [04:07] what is the best option [04:07] len_: i was talking to qwebirc88296 and if you plan to record tv then by all means use mythtv i know i do [04:08] just for a player [04:08] qwebirc88296: you can just install ubuntu and boxee and just be done [04:08] yeah [04:08] mythtv has much more overhead because it is designed to be structured around recording tv and is a client/server model [04:08] which you dont need [04:08] i was reading and alot of people say the playback through myth is the best [04:09] hmm [04:09] what package is mirobridge part of? [04:09] your thoughts [04:09] I'm scratching my head on this one. Miro run stand-alone uses a regular user account, but mythbuntu control centre sets up it's own separte root copy. [04:10] qwebirc88296: sure playback is good but if all your doing is goign to be playing videos out of a folder install vanilla ubuntu install boxee set that up and boom done [04:10] len_, i've pinged the developer on it. I've got a 9.10 backend, which is working right here [04:10] yeah its easy but which is the best performer for 1080 [04:11] Thanks [04:11] qwebirc88296: well if your cpu can handle it anything [04:12] this is a setup for my room but i am going to be getting that new asus ion for the main room and thats where I am not sure [04:13] 1.6 ghz dual its a little iffy on the performance side but is supposed to kick out 1080p [04:13] qwebirc88296, you probably want XBMC/Boxee [04:13] although I kind of hate boxee [04:13] yeah [04:13] i have read so many great things on myth [04:14] i just did the install today [04:14] I don't know much but really wanted to learn more [04:14] qwebirc88296: yeah mythtv is great but if you just plan to watch videos then its overkill [04:14] and not in a goodway [04:14] It works fine btw. It creates links to the /root/.miro recordings, and the miro recordings show up in the media library just like they should--they just don't play because of permissions. [04:15] hm [04:16] for now i have the boxee on the mythbuntu box that install of ubuntu on mythbuntu is really light [04:17] ok [04:17] but not compared to an xubuntu install [04:17] because mythtv needs more libs [04:17] and has dependencies [04:17] like mysql and myth frontend backend [04:17] the boxee still needs a 9.1 distro [04:18] its upto 10.04 now [04:18] oh i see [04:18] nice [04:18] which would be stronger for streaming internet tv [04:19] myth or boxee [04:19] boxee imo would be easier for someone that wants point and click [04:19] i love mythtv but its geared more towards people who want to get their hands dirty [04:20] i see well i am up for the challenge with myth just figured i would ask some q's this evening [04:20] right i am sure you can get it to work but for your situation boxee would be easier [04:20] but yeah if you want to learn thats good too [04:20] its weird that the audio loaded and played but the video got jammed [04:21] for vdpau(gpu offloading) you need a recent nvidia card [04:21] it could have internal errors [04:21] try another video [04:21] well it didnt even load up as playable in the library [04:21] it showed no files present when in myth [04:21] i am not sure i havnt had those issues [04:22] even though its sitting in the video file for the library [04:22] are you using mythvideo? [04:22] yep [04:22] and did you hit m for menu and scanned for changes [04:22] nope did not do that [04:22] because i have files and they play fine [04:22] reading through some of the documentation would help [04:23] yeah [04:23] i am not trying to discourage you from using mythtv just pointing out there are easier ways if all you want to do is watch videos instead of recording [04:23] nobody seemed to be having this issue [04:23] i hear u shadow [04:24] sometimes issues happen [04:24] thats linux [04:24] frustrating this early to be having what appears on the surface to be a very basic issue [04:25] thanks for the help [04:25] i gotta run [04:50] qwebirc88296 -- if you keep after this, try invoking mythfrontend from an xterm so you can see what it's complaining about. [10:16] I'm trying to use nuvexport to transcode some recordings however it is failing :( Running it on Ubuntu Karmic. I think I've identified the problem, which is that mythtranscode is running at 0 FPS I'm running the command on my frontend, which has got the recordings mounted in the same location (they both exist on /recordings) as the backend, via NTFS. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong, or have wrongly configured? [10:18] NFS :) [11:32] further debugging shows the process is running at around 1 fps [11:32] if I do it separately with the commands I get from --debug [12:56] DaveMorris: this is a wild guess, but check the CPU usage settings for transcoding jobs? [12:57] where is that set? I checked it whilst it was running and it was at around 2% [12:58] I don't recall the menu layouts that clearly. On the backend, it's in General Settings, I think. Not sure if there's an independent setting on the frontend. [12:58] ok, I'll have a poke around the menus when I make it home [12:58] good luck! [13:44] anyone using mythexport on lucid [15:04] rileyp: yes, whats up? [15:11] rhpot1991, are you there [15:14] rileyp: yes, please ask your question [15:16] ah I m having trouble opening the rss page [15:16] actually the std page /192.168.1.10/mythexport [15:16] rileyp: what kind of trouble [15:16] 404 page not found [15:16] error message? [15:17] Internal Server Error sorry [15:17] rileyp: what is in your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ [15:19] nothing! [15:21] rhpot1991, nothing its empty [15:24] what about sites-available [15:25] sites vailable is a folder [15:26] yes, what is in it [15:26] rhpot1991, default,default-ssi,mythexport.conf,mythweb.conf.dpkg-old [15:27] rileyp: run this: sudo a2ensite mythexport [15:28] then sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart [15:28] ERROR: Site mythexport does not exist! [15:29] try mythexport.conf [15:30] http://pastebin.com/YkE9racD [15:30] thats it [15:30] rileyp: run this: sudo a2ensite mythexport.conf [15:32] I just installed mythweb again will that break anything? [15:32] a2ensite mythexport.conf [15:32] opps wrong window [15:33] rileyp: no, it shouldn't [15:33] /etc/apache2/sites-available# [15:35] http://192.168.1.10/mythexport/ thats correct or do I need some capitals [15:36] Its abded a mythweb to sites available and it works [15:36] reinstalling mythweb did that [15:37] most likely [15:37] shouldn't need caps [15:37] yes and the mythweb page loads [15:37] mythexport working? [15:37] no page not load [15:37] did you run the commands that I said? [15:38] ite mythexport.conf already enabled [15:39] is it in sites-enabled now? [15:39] http://192.168.1.10/mythexport/ does not load still [15:42] rhpot1991, attempting a reinstall of mythexport from synaptic...done [15:42] rhpot1991, still not loading [15:43] rileyp: it would help if you answered my questions instead of running off and doing other things, but whatever [15:43] I did answer your q [15:44] is it in sites-enabled now? [15:44] and i did use your script [15:45] Stopping MythExport Daemon: mythexport No /usr/bin/perl found running; none killed. [15:46] yes [15:47] http://pastebin.com/tfyrp7zc apache2 problem perhaps? [15:47] thats normal [15:48] ah ok thats good to know [15:48] and if your daemon wasn't started it wouldn't be able to stop it, so you can ignore that too [15:48] if its in sites-enabled all you should need to do is restart apache, which I told you to do above after you enabled the site [15:48] ok [15:49] /etc/init.s/apche2 restart? [15:50] yes [15:52] still no go [15:54] is ther soemthing I need to config before mythexport can start I thought all the config was done via webpage [15:54] rileyp: yes, but the web should just work [15:54] its sin sites-enabled now? [15:54] well it did a week ago [15:55] yes it is and sites available [15:55] and what have you done since then? [15:55] lets try this [15:55] I installed tomcat6 and mythpodcaster [15:55] sudo a2dissite mythexport.conf [15:55] sudo a2ensite mythexport.conf [15:55] sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart [15:56] Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name [15:57] sing 127.0.1.1 for ServerName [15:57] is that normal [15:57] still not loading [15:58] i disabled and renabled mythexport and restarted apache [15:59] yes, thats the same warning as before [15:59] http://192.168.1.10/mythexport/ is the page Im attempting to load [15:59] rileyp: still 404? [15:59] no its 500 internal server error [16:00] woulda been nice to know when it changed from 404 to 500... [16:00] should I paste /var.log/apache2/error.log [16:00] yes [16:02] http://pastebin.com/XZcGxbg6 [16:03] rileyp: odds are your /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt or config.xml files have the wrong password in them [16:04] mythweb works and mythfrontends work but yes perhaps [16:04] Ill lokk [16:05] db password is mythtv and it still got the auro generated one in config.xml [16:05] well they connect differently [16:06] it will be reading config.xml for that [16:06] loads! [16:07] thnask you now can a sk a few simple questions as Iv enver used it before [16:07] rileyp: sure [16:07] I never would of worked that one out you are a gem! [16:08] Now will I be able to select download items to download on my ipod [16:08] rileyp: if you set everything up then you should be able to just point itunes (or whatever you are using) at the rss feed [16:09] hopefully itunes is happy about the mp3 audio, if not you will need to enable medibuntu and switch out libmp3 for libfaac, should all be on the wiki [16:09] Ok so my ipod will down load them via its wireless network ability [16:10] rileyp: ipod touch with built in wireless? [16:10] I choos to transcode item via mythtv i sthat correct [16:10] yes that correct [16:10] might be able to do that, I've always uses software to do it on my computer [16:11] I gave up on ipods when mine broke, so I haven't bothered much with them in the past few releases [16:11] in mythweb or mythfrontend you can execute the user job on a recording, it will then show up in the rss feed once its done encoding [16:12] to execute the user job its a select and click thing [16:13] rileyp: you can tell it to run a user job on specific recordings when you set them up too [16:13] so say you record a sports show every day, you can have that automagically encode when its done recording [16:14] And you can slect when transcoding is done so it does not interfere with recording etc [16:15] via myth user jobs of course [16:16] rileyp: well you can do them whenever you want, but if you set them to happen automagically it happens when the recording is done [16:16] its run with nice -19 so it should never cause issues with hogging cpu [16:18] I read recently that ffmpeg command line parameter had changed and it was causing grief with mythwexport [16:18] am I mistaken? [16:18] it does all the time [16:18] does mythexport use ffmpeg? [16:18] yes [16:19] every release I have headaches with flags changing [16:19] like what I was mentioning with mp3 above [16:19] ipods prefer aac, but we don't have aac in ffmpeg any longer [16:20] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117283 [16:20] [ubuntuforums.org] HOWTO: Easily enable MP3, MPEG4, AAC, and other restricted encoding in FFmpeg - Ubuntu Forums [16:20] haha beat ya [16:21] I did plan C medibuntu [16:21] thanks anyway zim can you offer up some settings for me as I have no idea [16:22] zinn is just telling you the title of the page you pasted [16:22] Hi rhpot1991, something I can help you with today? I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do. [16:22] B. Install the unstripped or extra libraries [16:22] mythexport does that [16:22] C is what I said you could do [16:22] I do not recommend A at all [16:22] I did C 4 hours ago should I do B [16:23] Ah ok zin the bot tricky [16:24] Ok so if I just installed mythexport it would break C? [16:26] rileyp: no, but you will need to change the ffmpeg line to use aac instead [16:26] it should all be on the wiki [16:26] ok thnaks so should I stay with C? [16:26] rileyp: or you could get a mediaplayer that doesn't hate freedom :) [16:27] It was a birthday present 6 days ago I have a company phone so thast wasnt going to happen [16:28] rileyp: C should help you with ipods [16:31] ok so Ill stick with C is ther anything else I need to install as thats all I have apart from what mythbuntu gives and [18:16] i need help configuring X for a TV [18:16] ive got an old sony trinitron [18:16] and the svideo output [18:16] is really ugly [18:17] now that xrandr pretty much stomps xorg, [18:17] xorg.conf [18:17] life has become difficult [18:18] plus, TV specs dont include resolution [18:18] the screen is pretty much square, so im guessing a resolution like 800x800 would work [18:19] but i have no idea how to do video timings or anything like that [21:59] Hi, I see that nuvexport got dropped for lucid, I assume there is a better tool for archiving off our recordings. So what is the preferred way now? [22:03] DaveMorris1: we stopped packaging it because no one was maintaining it and it was constantly out of sync and unusable [22:03] yeah I guessed it was something like that, but what is the supported way of archiving off recordings? [22:04] DaveMorris1: use mytharchive? [22:04] or build nuvexport from source [22:04] or make your own user job [22:04] it appears to make them into DVDs, I wanna keep them as files on my fileserver [22:05] you could use mythexport too, but it includes a lot of things you don't care about [22:05] currently looking at mythexport, which may do the job [22:05] DaveMorris1: you can transcode right from myth, cut the commercials and transcode [22:05] wont give you the choices nuvexport gave you though [22:06] ok, I'm looking at http://www.mythbuntu.org/wiki/MythExport and it says there is a webinterface for it [22:06] but what is the url ??? [22:06] using find, I've got it :) [22:07] DaveMorris1: after you install its http://localhost/mythexport [22:07] the formatting apears wrong on that page, let me see if my account is still valid [22:07] ya it is [22:07] prob from us pulling it from the old wiki [22:07] DaveMorris1: so whatever the ip of your backend is, add mythexport onto that [22:08] DaveMorris1: fair warning you are going to need to mess with ffmpeg with this until you get something you like [22:08] pretty much all of my pre-sets are for mobile devices [22:08] also if it runs on the backend I don't think I wanna do that. My backend is a little under spec [22:09] DaveMorris1: you can trick it with NFS shares [22:09] so run it on a different box and just have the location look the same [22:10] hmmm, I think I'll also take a look at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythnuv2mkv [22:10] [www.mythtv.org] Mythnuv2mkv - MythTV [22:12] mkv is nice I must say [22:13] I plan on making it less of a hastle dealing with ffmpeg in upcoming releases [22:17] from a users point of view, it just needs adding into to mytharchive, to archive them off to a folder as *.avi [22:18] the selecting of the files, encoder selection etc is all there [22:19] although nuvexport appeared to make it easy, however it isn't transcoding the files for me on karmic, and since it's dropped from lucid, not much point in using it [22:22] DaveMorris1: problem is that ffmpeg loses sync with programs [22:22] flags change every release [22:22] so unless you have someone keeping up on it, we have a nuvexport that doesn't match the ffmpeg and you just can't use it then [22:23] then users start building ffmpeg from source and all hell breaks lose [22:23] rhpot1991: Please watch your language. [22:23] quiet zinn [22:23] Hi rhpot1991, something I can help you with today? I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do. [22:23] yeah, I know ffmpeg is a pig [22:23] which is why I don't wanna start rolling my own [22:24] DaveMorris1: I'd try building nuvexport from source and running ffmpeg with medibuntu enabled [22:25] if you want to maintain it we can get it back in [22:25] or if you want to come up with a good mythexport solution that fits your needs I can build it into that as well [22:25] unfortunately I don't really have the time to maintain it [22:27] what will happen is I'll find time to package it up once, then not have time in the future [22:28] DaveMorris1: prob best to talk to superm1, as far as I'm concerned our main issue is not with making the package but making sure it works each release [22:28] ideally you should just be able to get the old source for the package and update the upstream source [22:28] yeah, which I can't commit my time to [22:28] I say ideally, because I've never touched it so I have no idea what its doing [22:28] if we could get upstream to put it into mythplugins or something else we regularly build it would be so much easier [22:29] keeping it on it's own branch just makes it too tedious to have to update each time [22:29] superm1: ffmpeg sync is a bigger issue IMO [22:29] having a package that doesn't work with ubuntu's ffmpeg causes more headaches than its worth [22:29] ah [22:30] trust me I know :) [22:31] I should look into some automated testing for that === bogus is now known as Guest41998