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funkyHatOh man the annoying "this folder isn't synced" notice got even more obnoxious...01:17
ChipacafunkyHat: why more obnoxious?02:42
funkyHatChipaca: it's now an even longer message, and takes up 2 lines02:43
Chipacapopey: ping02:44
Chipacapopey: did you ever file a bug re the per-folder syncing message?02:45
funkyHatChipaca: there is a bug, hold on02:45
funkyHatbug #60110202:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 601102 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "ubuntu one disabled notice in every nautilus window (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60110202:46
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Chipacaok02:50
nUboon2AgeJust wanted to let people know I documented how to get Harald Sitter (apachelogger)'s ubuntu-kde and ubuntuone-gnome-client working on Kubuntu.  See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152213703:03
Chipacawhat was the bug re syncing some of the xdg folders automatically on signup?03:08
ChipacafunkyHat: what version of ubuntuone-client-gnome are you using?03:11
funkyHatChipaca: 1.3.4-0ubuntu103:11
nUboon2AgeSo far I've confirmed file syncing and Tomboy notes syncing on Kubuntu.  I havent tried contacts or music syncing on any platform yet.  I've also confirmed Tomboy note syncing working on Windows (vista); also file syncing on Portable Ubuntu on Windows (see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1522852  -- I haven't tried Tomboy yet, but don't anticipate any problem).03:11
ChipacafunkyHat: I have the same version, and am not seeing the extended per-folder message03:12
funkyHatChipaca: it's showing only in dirs under ~ now03:13
ChipacafunkyHat: yes, I know03:14
ChipacafunkyHat: but I'm only seeing "ubuntu one disabled"03:14
funkyHatChipaca: ah ok. I'm now seeing "Ubuntu One - folder not synchronized", and on a second line "These files are not backed up and will not be available in your other computers"03:14
Chipacalet me reinstall libsyncdaemon03:15
Chipacanow yes! thanks funkyHat :)03:16
nUboon2AgeClarification: I got Tomboy note syncing working on Windows (Vista) using Ubuntu One to sync, but without any specific Windows Client-side U1 software. Under the sync prefs I put Tomboy Web, and then gave https://one.ubuntu.com/notes and 'Connected'.  The browser prompted me to add the computer, and once I'd done that I saved it.  It just worked! :)03:16
ChipacanUboon2Age: if you could come online tomorrow between 8z and 16z, approx, and talk to mandel, he's working on the windows client and has an installer you might want to try03:17
nUboon2AgeChipaca: is 'z' mean GMT?03:17
nUboon2AgeChipaca: i should say does 'z' mean in GMT time zone?03:18
ChipacanUboon2Age: z is UTC03:20
Chipacayes03:20
Chipaca"zulu"03:21
nUboon2AgeChipaca: sounds good. I'll try and catch up with him soon, if not tommorrow.03:21
funkyHatChipaca: I'm not sure why you're thanking me ;(03:26
ChipacafunkyHat: because I wanted to see the new message and wasn't, and I thought it was because it wasn't in the repo yet, but it was only because I had overwritten the libsyncdaemon .so while doing some tests, and needed to reinstall03:28
ChipacaI'm moving to have the message removed in a lot of cases, and made smaller / briefer in others03:29
funkyHatChipaca: as you've possibly gathered from the bug report I'd rather it just went away03:29
ChipacafunkyHat: why would you rather it just went away?03:30
ChipacafunkyHat: or rather, in which cases? always? how would you accomplish what it's trying to accomplish, then?03:30
ChipacafunkyHat: these are not rhetorical questions; I really want to know03:31
funkyHatChipaca: I would rather just see emblems on synced files. That would be much less obtrusive, and actually be able to provide more information (this file is syncing now, for example)03:32
funkyHatAnd the reason I would rather it went away is I find it obtrusive ;)03:32
funkyHatKind of like "HII I'M UBUNTU ONE WHY AREN'T YOU USING ME HERE? HUH?"03:32
ChipacafunkyHat: you do get that the message is not telling you whether the files are actually synced, but rather whether the folder is being synced?03:34
ChipacafunkyHat: i.e. whether it is being kept in sync?03:34
funkyHatChipaca: yes03:34
ChipacafunkyHat: how wouold you do that with an emblem?03:35
ChipacafunkyHat: I mean03:35
ChipacafunkyHat: well, I mean that, please fill out the idea. I know the per-folder thing isn't ideal, but I think it is, in some situations, better than the alternatives03:36
Chipacain some other situations it needs to just not be there at all (such as when file syncing is disabled)03:36
funkyHatChipaca: I would probably do it the way dropbox does it03:36
ChipacafunkyHat: dropbox allows you to synchronize any folder in your home? how does it expose that?03:37
funkyHatChipaca: oh you mean how I'd expose the option. I'd do that in the context menu for a dir and in a menu03:39
funkyHatno, dropbox doesn't have that facility03:39
ChipacafunkyHat: the context menu is already too big03:41
ChipacafunkyHat: we had it there, before, and it was unusable03:41
funkyHatChipaca: and now the top of the window in nautilus is also too big03:41
ChipacafunkyHat: yes. But we can shring that quite a bit.03:42
Chipaca*shrink03:42
funkyHatI can't remember exactly how it was when it was in the context menu, but if I recall there were a couple of top level options, and it did look quite messy.03:45
ChipacafunkyHat: yep. And I understand we don't have a lot of control over that from the plugin.03:49
funkyHatI think the other uses of that widget in nautilus are generally more useful (though I'm not especially keen on the "this device has photos on it" type ones either)... e.g. the recycle bin/wastebasket is a special type of "folder" where there's a specific action I'm likely to want to perform. Normal folders aren't special03:50
ChipacaI agree, and I agree it's far from optimal... but as I say, still better than our alternatives, for M at least.04:06
funkyHatChipaca: I think a single submenu for any ubuntu one options in the context menu (unless there's just a single option) would be much better, but it sounds like you've already decided against that04:08
ChipacafunkyHat: AFAIK we can't add a submenu04:09
ChipacafunkyHat: from a plugin, that is04:09
funkyHatChipaca: dropbox does it04:09
funkyHatTheir nautilus plugin is open source too04:09
ChipacafunkyHat: I understand there are two kinds of nautilus plugin, and we'd have to be the other kind. But maybe I've got it wrong.04:09
ChipacafunkyHat: I'll ask.04:10
funkyHatChipaca: thanks. A possibility that just came to me is to use a windicator instead ;)04:13
Chipacahah!04:14
Chipacanot for M, no04:14
funkyHatWell, in the meantime is there some way I can turn off these annoying notices without disabling ubuntu one completely?04:16
ChipacafunkyHat: you could remove the nautilus extension...04:18
funkyHatChipaca: thanks ⢁)04:20
geekilized"There was a (temporary) problem getting your list of purchased songs. Please wait a short time and then try again, or return to the music store." - I have been getting this message for 3 days04:44
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geekilizedis it just me?04:46
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geekilizedanyone?04:51
geekilizedsomeone?04:57
geekilizedno one?04:59
geekilizedok why is everyone in the channel anyways if nobody is gonna reply? what's the point of even having this channel?05:00
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psypher246honk07:09
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duanedesignpsypher246: hello07:24
psypher246howzit, before logging a bug I want to talk to u guys 1st. Files deleted on my laptop do not delete on the server or other pc's, what could be the issue?07:25
duanedesignpsypher246: ok07:27
duanedesignpsypher246: could you open a terminal and run the command:  u1sdtool -s07:27
psypher246State: QUEUE_MANAGER07:28
psypher246    connection: With User With Network07:28
psypher246    description: processing queues07:28
psypher246    is_connected: True07:28
psypher246    is_error: False07:28
psypher246    is_online: True07:28
psypher246    queues: IDLE07:28
duanedesignpsypher246: where these files in your Ubuntu One folder?07:29
psypher246yes07:29
duanedesignpsypher246: ok. lets try restarting the syncdaemon. Could you run the following command07:30
duanedesignu1sdtool -q; u1sdtool -c07:30
psypher246funny now it looks, after almost a wek, it's suddenly deleting the files07:32
psypher246b4 i ran that command i logged onto u1 client and clicked connect, but this is the 1st time it was disconnected07:32
psypher246although just SOME of the files have deleted, dunno if it's still working07:33
duanedesignpsypher246:  can you run the command:  u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l07:33
duanedesignit will return a number. Thats the number of metadata items waiting to sync07:34
psypher246407:34
duanedesignok so it still has 4 more things to do07:34
duanedesignyou can also use that same command but replace metadata with content07:35
duanedesignu1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l07:35
psypher246007:35
duanedesignok so it only has those 4 metadata items07:36
psypher246that now 5 :)07:36
duanedesignheh, its going the wrong direction :)07:38
psypher246now it's 607:39
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psypher246ok it's gone now07:46
psypher246duanedesign: the website is also very unstable, constantly timing out and providing errors yet the staus says it's fine07:47
psypher246We're sorry. Something's not working correctly. Please try again or check the Ubuntu One status page. If this issue continues, please file a bug. Thanks!07:47
duanedesignpsypher246: ok. Is this one.ubuntu.com07:48
psypher246ye07:48
psypher246the sync is finishd but only some of the files were deleted07:48
psypher246logging out and in again of the web site fixes the timeout issue07:48
popeyChipaca: i have seen those bugs about the u1 banner in nautilus and I'm still not happy that it's "fixed"07:52
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duanedesignpsypher246: so some of them did delete, but not all of them?07:55
psypher246duanedesign: yes08:11
duanedesigncan you run  u1sdtool -s  again08:13
duanedesignpsypher246: ^^08:13
psypher246State: QUEUE_MANAGER08:20
psypher246    connection: With User With Network08:20
psypher246    description: processing queues08:20
psypher246    is_connected: True08:20
psypher246    is_error: False08:20
psypher246    is_online: True08:20
psypher246    queues: IDLE08:20
psypher246why is the website so unstable, have to log out and in again after each time i browse the olders08:20
duanedesignhmm08:20
psypher246lol, this is our MOTD from the man we   call root:08:22
psypher246See, I told you it was easy. Unix is very user-friendly, just a little bit08:22
psypher246picky about who it's friends are.08:22
duanedesign:)08:23
psypher246there is a whole bash explanation leading up to that but not gonna bore you ;)08:23
duanedesignpsypher246: can you try the copmmand we did earlier to restart the syncdaemon08:23
psypher246have a lot of non-nix people wokring on our jumbhosts08:23
duanedesignu1sdtool -q; u1sdtool -c08:23
psypher246k08:24
mandelping vds08:24
psypher246u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l08:25
psypher246408:25
duanedesignpsypher246:  do you have anything in this file    ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log08:26
psypher246no08:26
duanedesignpsypher246: ok. well lets take a look at ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log08:30
duanedesignpsypher246: could post the contents at  http://paste.ubuntu.com08:30
duanedesignpsypher246: this log does have your file names in it08:30
duanedesignpsypher246: so if you have anything personal or proprietary you can obfuscate it08:31
psypher246http://paste.ubuntu.com/465786/08:31
duanedesignnever now :) Someone might keep their entire girly picture collection in their Uuntu One folder :P08:32
psypher246oh i do ;)08:32
psypher246lol08:32
psypher246meh ;008:32
duanedesign:)08:33
psypher246but it's the client documentation that won't delete ;)08:33
psypher246less important to backup08:33
vdsmandel: pong08:35
mandelvds, morning! :D08:35
vdsmandel: morning!08:36
mandelso, I'm nearly done with the installer, I just need your help with S3 ;)08:36
mandelmandel, the installer now will download all the different msi from s3, so besides the gtk sharp you created, I need a tomboyone and a UbuntuOne that we have08:37
vdsmandel: sure!08:37
mandelI just need to put something in S3 to test08:37
mandelvds, I'll put the file in the ubuntu one share, ok?08:37
vdsmandel: yep08:37
psypher246duanedesign: the meatadata count is now 0 but the files are still there08:39
mandelvds, can i upload files to the share through the webui?08:39
vdsmandel: yes08:41
nUboon2Agemandel: Chipaca_ told me i should check in with you about a windows client/installer test you are doing.08:42
mandelvds, mm then I'm stupid 'cause I do not see the upload buttons :(08:42
mandelnUboon2Age, good morning :D, yes we are working on it, what do you want to know?08:43
duanedesignpsypher246: well i dont see anything in that log.  The file is gone from your local U1 folder but still exists on the server?08:44
psypher246yes08:44
nUboon2Agemandel: good morning to you (about to knock off where i am).  It sounded like it might be something i could try out -- like beta test.08:44
vdsmandel: is at the top near Files, search for upload in the page08:45
nUboon2Agemandel: i've been alpha testing apachelogger's ubuntuone-kde .  Got it running...  been wanting to get a windows client running, so i guess you're the person to talk to.08:46
mandelnUboon2Age, that would be awesome, but we have a lot of work yet to do to adapt the sync daemon to work correctly, neverthelles I'm sure as soon as there is working client your help yould be greatly welcome :D08:46
nUboon2Agemandel: sounds good.  any idea of the timeline when i could play with it?08:47
mandelnUboon2Age, I would love to have it in 2 weeks or so, but it all depends on the bugs and problems we find in our way08:48
mandelnUboon2Age, there is though some help you can give use with the initial installer we have, we are creating a single installer that will download and install for you UbuntuOne, tomboy and GtkSharp if needed, so it would be great if you hang around here this week so we can ask you to try it out08:48
mandelvds, no buttons in my webui with chrome :(08:48
mandelvds, I did a search in the page and all08:49
vdsmandel: ah, it's read only for you, quite strange I'm sure I set it read/write08:49
mandelvds, no problem, is early in the morning ;)08:50
vdsmandel: well I did it last week not today :) please accept the share again08:51
mandelvds, ok08:52
mandelvds, cool now is ok, I'll upload the examples right now into a folder called installers08:52
vdsok08:53
mandelvds, I'm uploading the gtksharp too just for completness, but we have that on in s3 already08:53
gordhi all, having troubles getting ubuntu one to sign in. preferences says name/email are "Unknown". not quite sure how to get it to pick up my sso08:55
mandelvds, the UbuntuOne.msi is just an example, it does not do much, but is enough for testing08:55
duanedesigngord: have you added your computer to your Ubuntu One account08:56
gordduanedesign, I wouldn't know how :) but i'm sure this machine was added at some point in the past but has been formatted since08:58
duanedesignpsypher246: might be easiest if you did file a bug. That would be an easy way to get your logs uo so we can look at them. zip you ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/  and attach it to the bug. To file a bug run the command ubuntu-bug ubuntuone-client08:58
duanedesignpsypher246: then post the bug number here \08:58
psypher246ok cool will do08:58
psypher246thanks08:58
duanedesigngord: ok well lets look at Applications > Accessories > Password ans Encryption08:59
duanedesigngord: Click on the arrow next to "Passwords" and look for an Ubuntu One Token09:00
gordduanedesign, Yup got an ubuntu one token with a large password09:00
nUboon2Agemandel: yes, I'd probably be able to.  I'm kinda on the opposite schedule from you.  how would you want to coordinate?09:00
duanedesigngord: ok r-click and delete it09:00
mandelnUboon2Age, mm good question! let me give you my email, that way you an contact me easily09:01
duanedesigngord: Go to https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/09:01
nUboon2Agemandel: sounds good.09:01
duanedesigngord: if your computer is listed click the checkbox next to the computer and  Click the "Remove selected computers" button09:02
gordduanedesign, okay done09:02
duanedesigngord: now open the ubuntu one preferences from the Me Menu09:03
duanedesigngord: if that does not trigger the browser to add your computer open a terminal and run the command:  u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login; u1sdtool -c09:04
duanedesigngord: run the command after closing the Ubuntu One Preferences09:05
gordduanedesign, okay did all that but its still not triggering a browser =\09:07
duanedesigngord: what version of Ubuntu are you running?09:08
gordduanedesign, maverick, all the latest updates09:08
gordduanedesign, do you happen to be at the platform sprint?09:08
duanedesigngord: no09:09
gordah shame09:09
duanedesigngord: you are using Firefox.09:10
duanedesigngord: and Firefox is selected under system . preferences > preffered applications09:10
gordduanedesign, logged out and back in now i get it asking me to add the machine and connects :)09:10
gordthanks!09:10
duanedesigngord: ok so you had to log out of the desktop and back in?09:11
gordduanedesign, yeah09:11
duanedesigngord: ok  just want to make sure i know incase someone else shows up with the same issue :)09:11
psypher246duanedesign: so do you know about the web site and it's stability issues?09:15
duanedesigni didnt experience anything here09:15
psypher246everytime i click on a folder i get kicked out and have to log in again, i can only browse once per session09:15
psypher246sometimes not even once09:16
duanedesignpsypher246: thats not good09:17
psypher246under what application would i log that bug?09:18
duanedesignpsypher246: ubuntuone-servers09:18
psypher246duanedesign: 607102 bug number for the delete issue09:19
duanedesignbug 60710209:19
ubot4Launchpad bug 607102 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "deleted files do not delete on ubuntuone web or other machines (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60710209:20
psypher246yes09:20
pedronismorning09:37
duanedesignpedronis: morning09:38
duanedesignpsypher246: can you try the command:    find ~/.local/share/ubuntuone -name '62eaf9c9-58cd-4f02-a784-f5b14100025d' -delete09:39
psypher246duanedesign: WHAT DOES THAT DO?>09:39
psypher246woops sorry caps09:39
duanedesignpsypher246: it will delete that piece of metadata09:40
duanedesignpsypher246: sometimes those bits of metadata get corrumpted and prevent proper operation09:40
psypher246duanedesign: sorry which peice, is this the one stopping the data from syncing?09:40
duanedesignpsypher246: could very well be. There are errors in the logs associated with an unlink command and this is the metadata for that bit of info. It will recreate the metadata09:42
duanedesignpsypher246: might want to u1sdtool -q09:42
duanedesignpsypher246: then:   rm ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/vm/shares/6/2/e/62eaf9c9-58cd-4f02-a784-f5b14100025d09:43
duanedesigneither one the find command and that rm command will do the same09:43
duanedesignpsypher246: after the rm command run u1sdtool -c and give it a bit to see if it works09:44
psypher246duanedesign: done but no real difference09:49
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vdsmandel: for some reason the upload is sloooow today but it's almost finished10:17
vdsmandel: same folder as the other one10:17
mandelvds, ok, na,es are the same that10:18
mandelvds, I gave u?10:18
vdsmandel: ...what? :)10:19
mandelvds, nothing, me being stupid :P10:20
vdsmandel: finally, upload completed10:21
mandelvds, oks, lets try it out!10:25
mandelvds, works like a charm!10:30
mandelI'll update the result setup.exe to the share so you can try it out, it if works I'll make some changes in the build and we can merge :D10:30
vdsmandel: 'couse you're a wizard! :)10:30
vdscool!10:31
mandelvds, haha that is a terrible joke10:31
vdsit's monday...10:31
mandelvds, excuses10:31
mandelvds, can u try the setup.exe in the ubuntuone share?10:32
vdsmandel: sure10:32
mandelvds, if that works we have an installer that downloads the different msi from the net and installs them10:32
mandelvds, we need images and all those preaty things.. but nessita took THE designer from us :(10:33
mandelmandel, I'm sure she is doins something more important anyway...10:33
nessitamandel: THE designer is free but he's AFK right now10:33
nessitamandel: so stop wining :-P10:33
mandelnessita, haha I knew you would jump ;)10:34
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nessita:-D10:34
nessitamandel: you know me dude10:34
mandelnessita, Great minds think alike10:35
mandelvds, got the installer? does it work in your machine?10:36
vdsmandel: downloading10:36
mandelvds,  the installer or the diff components?10:36
vdsmandel: the components10:39
mandelvds, ok, so the setup is small enough, right?10:39
vdsyes10:40
vdsmandel: it is asking two times for the license10:40
mandelyes, that is somthing we have to talk about, it will ask per comonent since they might have differencent licenses10:40
mandelvds, ^10:40
vdsmandel: that is fine I guess10:41
mandelvds, so far is on purpose, maybe the initial one is not needed (the one under the list of components)10:41
vdsas long as we make it clear10:41
vdsand the user understand what's happening10:41
mandelvds, yep, maybe removing the first one is the best option10:41
mandelvds, I'll remove the first one to make sure it is not confusing10:42
vdscool10:43
mandelvds, I've fixed that, what about the rest of the experience? does dowloading etc work?10:43
vdsmandel: installing tomboy now10:44
mandelvds, ok10:45
mandelvds, did you create the script to upload data to s3?10:46
vdsmandel: I haven't fix it yet to support folder I was having fun with win on ec210:47
vdsmandel: I do it asap10:47
mandelvds, no proble, I guess the most important thing is to set up windows in ec2 and start setting it up to make the builds10:47
mandelvds, we can sort out the uploading later10:48
vdsmandel: I better fix the script it shouldn't take too much10:48
mandelvds, yes, but it is a script that will not be useful to put in the src, right? contributers will not be able to upload anything anyway10:49
vdsmandel: I had a previous version of gtk# and it failed to install it10:50
mandelvds, ok, I'll make sure the installer does not execute if you have gtksharp or tomboy, I'll get on it right away10:50
mandelvds, actually, better I'll propose a merge with the code so far, we then file two bugs, one for tomboy being installed when already present and other one for gtk, agree?10:51
vdsmandel: agreed10:52
vdsmandel: last thing when the installer has finished it shouldn't propose you to install again, it's a bit confusing...10:54
mandelvds, mm I guess that is a bug related with the fact that gtksharp failed, let me merge and we file the bugs ;)10:55
vdsah10:55
vdsok10:55
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mandelvds, got the bootstrapper to be generated?11:59
dskrbthonk12:31
vdsmandel: nope, cannot find InstallerLinker.exe12:43
vdsmandel: probably I'm missing something12:43
mandelvds, muffinresearch told me, I'll add the lib in the tools folders, I must have missed it when I added it with bzr12:43
mandelvds, give me a sec12:44
vdsmandel: sure12:44
mandelvds, bazaar works funny on windows sometimes... I though I added it ..12:44
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mandelvds, can u update the branch and try again.... sorry again, I though I added the bin folder12:47
mandelvds, can u try again?12:51
vdsmandel: sure12:51
vdsmandel: installing again12:56
mandelvds, cool, thx, I do not know wahy bzr add dir/ irnogres binaries, do you know why?12:57
mandelvds, or I am stupid, which is more probable :P12:58
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vdsmandel: don't know13:04
Chipacamandel: nuboon2age_ got things (not quite sure which parts) in portable windows (or was it portable ubuntu?)13:07
mandelChipaca, which parts? he told be about portable ubuntu.. AFAIK there is not portable windows (no pun intended)13:12
Chipacamandel: as I said, I'm not sure which parts. And yes, portable ubuntu.13:13
mandelChipaca, I talked with he did not mention anyhting about windows13:19
Chipacamandel: ok13:20
vdsmandel: the installer hangs trying to install tomboy13:21
vdsI try again13:21
mandelvds, that is an issue with tomboy msi.. I wonder what happens13:22
mandelthere should be logs somehwere from tomboy13:22
vdsmandel: somewhere? :)13:22
mandelvds, let me find out, it depends on the msi ...13:24
mandelvds, does windows ask for permission when you install Tomboy???13:31
vdsmandel: permissions meaning?13:32
vdsthe usual security alert?13:32
mandelvds, yes, that stupid message ;)13:32
vdsonly once for ubuntuone I think13:32
mandelcan u try again and let me know13:33
vdsmandel: ah13:34
vdstries to install tomboy first and gtk# after13:34
vdsand doesn't work...13:34
mandelvds,13:36
mandelvds, aha, that should be the other way around then, first gtksharp, and then tomboy13:36
mandelvds, we will fail if we do not have gtksharp in the system13:37
mandelvds, the problem I have is that users can decide not to install gtksharp in the menu... should I disable that?13:38
vdsmandel: I'd say yes :)13:41
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mandelvds, ok, sorted then, we install UbuntuOne and GtkSharp if not present (bug to be added) and will let users select the other software, ok?13:41
vdsmandel: so now the installer created from the branch doesn't work?13:42
mandelvds, if you let me update it, it will, so far it does not... we need to move gtksharp to install before tomboy13:43
mandelvds, I did not think about that....13:43
vdsmandel: ok13:43
mandelvds, give me 3 seconds to change it and 5 min to push it to lp ;)13:43
vdstake your time I'm not going anywhere :)13:44
mandelvds, fixed :D13:49
vdscool13:49
mandelvds, god I hate making installers...13:49
mandelvds, rebuild it and let me know13:49
mandelif you have the libs already installed it will ask you if you want to repear them... that will be a bug later on, it should ask nothing13:50
ChipacaUbuntu One Desktop+ standup meeting starting un Mumble14:01
llllbbbbHello... yestarday i purchase music from ubuntu one music store but the mp3s bitrate wasn't 192 as stated in the store.They are 96kbps making them hardly bareable to lisen to...... I tried yestarday to contact 7digital through the form in rhytmbox-ubuntu-one but iam not sure if they got my mesage.(After submiting the mesage in the contact form the form reapeared empty without saying if the message was delivered )Should i try a di14:05
llllbbbbor wait a couple of days?14:09
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vdsmandel: works14:29
mandelvds, then I merge :D, right ?14:30
vdsmandel: yep14:30
mandelvds, awesome, as soon as that is done I'll propose an other took I was keeping for later ;)14:30
vdstook?14:31
dobeyllllbbbb: I'm not sure what the exact behavior of that form is supposed to be, but it sounds like maybe you should try to submit your rquest again, just to be on the safe side. have you received any e-mail confirmation of your request?14:47
llllbbbbdobey: No response to my mail. I submited 2 times yesterday.....i ll try again then.14:49
statiknice, https://encrypted.google.com/14:53
psypher246duanedesign: how do i set that bug to privtae for ubuntuone team only?15:00
duanedesignhello psypher24615:00
duanedesigneveryone is real busy but i wiill try and get someonr to look at that for you15:01
duanedesignpsypher246: to make it private...15:01
mandelvds, I have asked the bootstrapper project if we can have a component depending on the selection of another one (tomboy --> gtksharp) if not, I'll contribute to the project with a patch to do it.. 'til then we will always install gtksharp (bummer)15:01
vdsmandel: ok15:02
duanedesignpsypher246: see under your name15:02
psypher246duanedesign: no worries i know, i have to go as well. but yeah just want to make it private15:02
duanedesignpsypher246: well get it sorted15:02
duanedesignpsypher246: is the website still messing up?15:02
mandelvds, is in c++ so it should be ok15:02
psypher246duanedesign: no i mean this bug15:03
psypher246https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/60710215:03
ubot4psypher246: Error: Bug #607102 is private.15:03
psypher246duanedesign: yeah this site is still messed, but that bug is logged15:03
psypher246ah ok, thanks15:03
llllbbbbdobey: Thanks, this time the form rsponded that they will contact me. I must have been doing sth wrong, but iam sure yesterday after submiting the form it just reapeard empty.Anyway, thanks again....15:07
dobeyllllbbbb: sure :)15:07
miked595I noticed on a couple of my machines all my files were missing from Ubuntu One. I started up my laptop but kept it offline and made a fresh backup of my files. As soon as I connected to the internet my files disappeared. Has this happened to anyone here?15:29
mkarnickimiked595: no, but it sounds really bad. duanedesign ^ any help on that?15:30
miked595Only thing I could think of is that I built a new machine and a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.04. I was looking for my files to sync down but they didnt and they were gone from the one.ubuntu.com site as well. I restored the files from my backup and they synced on all my machines15:32
duanedesignmiked595: hello15:34
miked595hi15:35
duanedesignmiked595: hard to say how that happened. For some reason it thought it you wanted to reve those files. The sync works two ways. Files removed on one machine will be removed from all machines, or files removed from the server will trigger a delete.15:38
miked595duanedesign: that's why I think my new install could be the reason.15:39
duanedesignmiked595: was it a fresh install? Did you preserve the $Home from the old install?15:40
duanedesignmiked595: oh i see it was a new machine15:41
miked595duanedesign: Didn't the one.ubuntu.com site have a history and way to restore files? I am pretty sure I saw this a while back. I did copy my files from an old home dir.15:41
duanedesignmiked595: not yet. That is a feature that is being worked on. You can however get your files back if you  did not have a back up15:42
miked595duanedesign: I must have missed the Ubuntu One dir. That makes sense now.15:43
duanedesignmiked595: if you need to get your files back you can run:  wget  http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/ubuntuone-scripts/ubuntuone-account-info15:44
duanedesignin a Terminal15:44
mandelvds, do yo remember the bugs you mentioned about the installer, can you create them in lp so that I know what to fix?15:45
miked595duanedesign: good to know. I was able to back them up, so all is well now15:45
duanedesignmiked595: then run the command :  python ubuntuone-account-info15:45
duanedesignmiked595: you would then need to send that email to an Ubuntu One developer and they could get your files that way15:46
miked595duanedesign: nice, thank you!15:49
miked595ok well off to see why I only see 8 of my 12 threads in cpuinfo15:49
duanedesigngood luch miked59515:51
vdsmandel: sure15:55
mandelvds, thnx15:55
mandelvds, mind approving this: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-windows-installer/fix_nant_warnings16:13
mandelvds, I know you looked at it already, maybe you just forgot16:13
vdsmandel: all approved16:21
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mandelvds, cool, we need one more approval... I really think we should be able to work with just on approval... otherwhise we are going to go VERY slow16:22
mandelvds, I fear we might take too much time from muffinresearch16:22
vdsmandel: we can talk with Chipaca16:23
muffinresearchmandel: It's not too much of a problem I have the vm all set up.16:23
muffinresearchmandel: which one is it - fix_nant_warings?16:23
muffinresearchwarnings even16:24
mandelmuffinresearch, yes, that is one of then16:24
mandelmuffinresearch, did I miss type it? hehe is possible :P16:24
muffinresearchmandel: nope that was just me :)16:24
mandelmuffinresearch, strange... I usually make those mistakes :P16:25
muffinresearchmandel: what was the other one? add_wix?16:26
mandelmuffinresearch, add_wix is also ready... is the same as the others only in this case you should uninstall wix and be able to build the msi16:26
mandelmuffinresearch, yes, that one16:26
muffinresearchmandel: ok cool, np16:26
mandelmuffinresearch, thx16:26
oddyHey, how do I know if my local couchDB is linked to the ubuntu one?16:31
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muffinresearchmandel: I've approved both of those.16:36
duanedesignoddy: hello16:46
duanedesignoddy: right now its not easy. Couch replication is disabled at the moment16:47
urbanapeaaronb: yo!16:51
aaronbhowdy!16:51
beunoaaronb!16:53
aaronbhello!16:53
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duffydackCan I delete the ubuntuone folder without any 'damage'? I never use it.17:17
duffydackI mean, I use U1 with my own shared folders, not the U1 folder.17:18
duanedesignduffydack: thats a good question. Not sure I feel confident answering that :) If you can idle for a bit someone might chime in with an answer for you.17:21
beunothat's a good question17:35
beunofacundobatista, around to answer duffydack?17:35
facundobatistaduffydack, no, you never should remove that folder unless you uninstall the whole ubuntuone-syncdaemon package (and maybe other bits)17:36
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facundobatistaduffydack, we plan to stop having that "special folder", but so far it's needed17:37
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duffydackfacundobatista, its ok, i`ll just add it to .hidden or something then.18:12
facundobatistaduffydack, what is '.hidden'?18:13
duffydackfacundobatista,  instead of naming stuff with a . to hide it you add it to a file called .hidden..  but its not working for that folder18:15
facundobatistaduffydack, never heard about that18:16
duffydackit wont work with the U1 folder.  odd.18:20
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Chipacavds: you can talk to me? :)19:27
ematejaIf I place a hidden folder '.someFolder' within the 'Ubuntu One' folder, will it be treated as a normal folder or will it be ignored by the sync daemon?19:36
beunoemateja, normal folder19:36
ematejathx19:36
nuboon2age_Chipaca: yes, to answer your earlier note to mandel re Ubuntu One w/ Portable Ubuntu 'Tres' on Vista.  Basically i got basic file syncing working, but didn't fully explore UDFs ('Tres' is based on Karmic and i didn't experiment w/ the backport of ubuntuone as you'd described). look at post #2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152285219:43
Chipacanuboon2age_: ok. FWIW, the windows port of the file syncing part of Ubuntu One will be windows native, i.e. you wouldn't need to install dbus on windows :)19:44
nuboon2age_Chipaca: I also hadn't played with Tomboy, music, contacts, etc. functions.  Just basic file syncing so far...19:44
nuboon2age_Chipaca: on Portable Ubuntu 'Tres' that is.19:45
Chipacaok19:46
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ubun7uhello20:33
ubun7uis there a possibility ubuntuone gives extended disk space for students for free?20:34
vdsChipaca: still there?20:51
Chipacavds: there is at least one of me here20:52
beunoubun7u, there's no such plan at the moment, no20:52
vdsChipaca: how can I help?20:52
ubun7uk20:53
Chipacavds: with what?20:53
vds<Chipaca> vds: you can talk to me? :)20:53
Chipaca<vds> 11:23:21> mandel: we can talk with Chipaca20:54
vdsChipaca: ah, it's recursive...20:54
vdsChipaca: we are not using tarmac or PQM for the ubuntu one win client20:55
vdsmandel was wondering if one review/test is enough or we should stick with two reviews20:55
vdsChipaca: what do you think?20:56
Chipacavds: I told mandel, I want somebody outside of you two to look at the code20:56
Chipacavds: so, two reviews it stays, please20:57
ChipacaI'm assuming that one of you will actually compile/test, and the other review should be just reading20:57
Chipacaok?20:57
vdsChipaca: perfectly ok!20:57
Chipacavds: does that make sense to you?20:57
vdsChipaca: yes, especially considering my expertise with C#20:58
Chipacavds: it'll still be your (plural) job to track people down to do that readonly review, mind20:59
Chipacavds: i.e. you're responsible for pushing the card across the kanban20:59
Chipacavds: I'll mention it tomorrow in the standup. If I don't, remind me (gently)20:59
vdsI will21:00
geekilizedhello anyone here today?21:41
geekilizedanyone?21:56
beunogeekilized, sure21:57
beunoalthough everyone seems head down and coding21:57
beunowhat's up?21:57
geekilizedi have been here for past 3 days with no reply21:57
beunoso over the weekend?21:57
geekilizedyea21:58
beunoright, none of the developers work over the weekend21:58
beunowhat's the problem?21:58
geekilizedThere was a (temporary) problem getting your list of purchased songs. Please wait a short time and then try again, or return to the music store.21:58
geekilizedi have been getting that message when i try to access my downloads tab21:58
beunomattgriffin, around?21:59
mattgriffinhola22:01
mattgriffingeekilized: by temporary, do you mean that you are no longer seeing the issue?22:02
geekilizedi've been seeing this for about 4 days22:02
geekilizedi still see it22:02
beunomattgriffin, I think he pasted the message he is getting22:03
mattgriffinbeuno, geekilized: ah22:03
geekilizedyeah sorry, i pasted the message22:03
mattgriffingeekilized: np. it says that message for each track on My Downloads?22:03
geekilizedi get that message when i click the "my downloads" tab in music store22:04
mattgriffingeekilized: can you see the purchased music at https://one.ubuntu.com ?22:04
geekilizedyes22:04
mattgriffingeekilized: what version of Ubuntu are you running?22:05
geekilizedmaverick22:05
mattgriffingeekilized: do you know if your file synchronization is functioning correctly in general?22:06
mattgriffingeekilized: this sounds like the problem... just getting the purchased files from your cloud storage down to your computer22:06
geekilizeddont know, i dont synchronize any other files22:06
mattgriffingeekilized: ok. can you make a text file in your "Ubuntu One" directory in your home directory and then check https://one.ubuntu.com and see if it synchronizes?22:07
beunoor better yet, just open the control panel22:07
beunoyou may not have that computer added at all22:07
beunothat error is about delivering the music to your desktop22:07
geekilizedi have added my computer22:08
beunoso if syncing on the desktop isn't working, then it can't sync them into rhythmbox22:08
beunowhat does the control panel say?22:08
geekilizedfile sync is working i just created an empty file and i can see it in one.ubuntu.com22:09
mattgriffingeekilized: ok... can you open nautilus22:09
geekilizedok22:09
mattgriffingeekilized: then browse to ~/.ubuntuone/22:09
mattgriffingeekilized:  you should see a folder for purchased music22:09
geekilizedyes i see it22:10
mattgriffingeekilized: peek inside and see if the purchased music files are there please22:10
geekilizedhmm they are22:11
mattgriffingeekilized: hmm.. are you using banshee?22:11
geekilizedno. i am using rythmbox22:11
mattgriffinhmm22:11
mattgriffingeekilized: i think someone reported this issue last week... let me check launchpad... brb22:12
geekilizedok thanks22:12
mattgriffinnp... at least we know the songs are on your computer :)22:12
geekilized:)22:13
mattgriffingeekilized: this looks like the problem but please take a look at the description and confirm. bug #60476722:13
ubot4Launchpad bug 604767 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store "Purchased songs are not added to Banshee and Rhythmbox library (affects: 1) (heat: 19)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60476722:13
mattgriffingeekilized: i'll add the text of what you saw in Rhythmbox to the bug description22:14
geekilizedactually i see the files on my library22:15
mattgriffinoh... but the store's My Downloads page has that message for each purchased track?22:15
geekilizedyes. when i try to visit My Dowloads, i  get the message22:16
mattgriffingeekilized: ok. i'll open another bug... quitting and re-starting Rhythmbox doesn't resolve the problem?22:17
geekilizednope22:18
geekilizedmattgriffin:can i pm you?22:19
mattgriffingeekilized: sure :)22:19
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mkarnickiverterok: thanks for your emails! as for node.getParent() - this issue occures if, in a mobile phone scenario, we don't want to make a server rescan (CPU cost/battery drain). that's why I stumbled upon that problem, and I understand that one of the ways I could workaround it is, indeed, perform at least one server scan.23:45
mkarnickiverterok: as for deferreds, for the last 4 days, especially after your code review of my source, I learned quite a bit about deferreds. I understand them know, and I know we don't need 'a handle' for them to stay alive, we just schedule them on a final Deferred object23:47
mkarnickiverterok: problem is that, on Android, you can modify the UI (hide a dialog, set a label text, etc) only from the UIThread23:48
mkarnickiverterok: therefore, there are at least three ways to schedule UI changes not form UIThread. Handler, AsyncTask, and RPC23:49
mkarnickiverterok: AsyncTask runs in separate thread, but has access to UIThread. therefore, for example, I could say new AsyncTask<...>(pass tokens here) { authenticate here }.run();23:50
mkarnickiverterok: not only it can modify the UI, but I also get notified when it's done in it's onPostExecute method (to schedule getVolume or anything)23:51
mkarnickiverterok: *BUT* I wrote that only to explain my e-mail about Deferreds. They seem to work well now, thanks to you, and I understand them better =)23:51

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