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ridinhow come mouse themes only work if it's over firefox01:15
ridinrather, why doesn't the mouse theme completely change01:15
Threnody1Good evening. I'm really hoping there's someone in here who might be able to help me out with an installation issue. We've exhausted everything we know how to do and am ready to admit we're out of our league.01:23
ridinJust ask, someone will come01:27
Threnody1I've been trying installing Qimo on an old computer for my son to use, without success. I downloaded the iso image, verified it with an MD5 utility, and burnt it to a CD. I can run it live without issues, and all seems to work just fine. When I try to install it, I get a message that there has been an unrecoverable error, and it will now start a desktop session.01:29
Threnody1After trying to burn several new CD's, the same thing happens each time. Understanding Qimo was built off of Xubuntu, I tried to just install Xubuntu, and got the same error message.01:30
ridinare you able to install other distributions fine?01:30
Threnody1I was told it was likely an issue of not enough memory or a bad hard drive. This machine was previously dual booted with XP and Ubuntu with no problems, so it's not the memory.01:30
Threnody1Having no success with anything, I tried to reinstall Ubuntu to get rid of anything else on the drive and format the hard drive, but that is now also failing half way through the installation.01:31
Threnody1We also put in a different hard drive during this process to rule the drive out as the culprit here.01:31
Threnody1Running it live form the CD works with Qimo, Xubuntu, and Ubuntu, I just can't seem to install any of them without the process quitting about halfway through.01:32
mhall119Threnody1: did you post the Question on launchpad?01:32
Threnody1I did on the launchpad for Qimo, that was where I was told it was likely memory or a hard drive issue. Having ruled both of those out, and after having the problem with multiple distributions, I'm guessing it isn't just a problem with Qimo, but something I am doing wrong.01:33
mhall119Threnody1: like I said in the bug, it could be the IDE or SATA controller on the motherboard01:34
Threnody1We'll look into that next then. Lord knows my husband has enough spare parts around this place we ought to be able to patch together at least one working machine from them.01:36
mhall119also, just because it used to run Windows and Ubuntu, doesn't mean it can't have developed a memory problem, did you run the memory test from the CD?01:36
Threnody1Nope, I'll also do that next once I switch the monitor back over to that machine.01:37
mhall119my only other through would be to try a non-Ubuntu distro, since Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Qimo all use the same internals01:37
Threnody1It's really such a great program, I would consider just running it from the CD every time except his favorite game to play is a flash game, and installing flash and copying this game over every time he starts up the computer might be a bit much for a five year old.01:38
mhall119yeah, I wish I could ship flash installed on the CD, but licenses prevent me01:39
Threnody1On the other hand, what better way to learn. I'll go look into those things and hope it fixes it. Thank you for your time.01:39
mhall119however, if you had the inclination, you could customize the CD to include it01:39
Threnody1We'll look into that as an option if we can't get the rest of this sorted out.01:39
mhall119also, there's a #qimo channel here on freenode, though it's not very busy most of the time01:40
Threnody1After failing with several different distributions today, I figured it wasn't a Qimo specific problem, but something else on my end. I'll very likely end up popping in there from time to time once I can get this up and going.01:42
mhall119we'd be happy to have you :)01:44
ridin why doesn't the mouse theme completely change when chosen02:15
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Guest83895new linux user here, got a question02:46
Guest83895my menu/start/task bar has disappeared and I don't know how to get it back.  any ideas?02:50
pleia2!panels02:53
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/02:53
pleia2Guest83895: this should help :)02:53
Guest83895thanks02:55
Guest83895panels are gone, I'll try your suggestion02:56
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Frustratedcannot browse network shares on windows from Xbuntu and the tips I found online are equally non worakble - any ideas for a noob02:57
Frustratedtest02:59
sean_typed xfce4-panel into terminal.  got following error:03:04
sean_'gst is mixer track (track)' failed03:05
Threnody2Hello again. I was in here earlier having issues trying to get Qimo installed onto one of our older machines. We ran a memory test that was completed without any errors, and we've replaced the hard drive already. Is it safe to assume at this point it's the motherboard, and try swapping that out next?04:07
mhall119Threnody2: that would be my next guess04:08
Threnody2Alright, we'll try that next and hope for the best then. Thanks again!04:08
Threnody2Here's to hoping for the best.04:08
LinuxFrustratedCan someone help me jus browse a simple windows network05:06
LinuxFrustratedCan someone help me jus browse a simple windows network05:11
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LinuxFrustratedanyone here explain how to browse a windows share?05:27
LinuxFrustratedso far after 4 years of trying linux this is getting pathetic05:29
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LinuxFrustratedanyone help anyone here05:36
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sheyMy first question might be of no relavance to this channel 'persay' but I need to know the reason I am banned from #ubuntu. Now for the genera help. I chose Xubuntu as my install preference. I get to about 95% Cleaning up and Configuration, and the laptop just dies. Debian, Windows, Mandriva install just fine.05:59
LinuxFrustratedi am new but I would say maybe bad media - bad burn -06:03
LinuxFrustratedburn it very slow06:03
sheyAnd the obvious would be for me to provide the details of the system, its a Dell Inspiron 600m. 1gb/80gb.06:03
sheyI tried to burn it slow. A few times.06:04
sheyI have not tried Kubuntu only because this is not exactly a new machine, so the gfx cannot be that great. Hence the footprint KDE leaves behind.06:05
sheyAnd pardon the laughter of the irony of your nick helping me, thanks! But I had to chuckle. Your nick is where I was 15 years ago.06:06
MrNazi've gotten a few windows shares showing up in gigolo, how do i get them to appear as filesystems in thunar, the way that usb disks appear in the left side panel ?06:11
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sheyok evidenty #ubuntu banned the qweb client, just incase you dudes get flooded with questions about that channel.06:16
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scarra3Ok I just installed xubuntu 10.04 and then installed flash but no audio is playing07:59
scarra3Any ideas?08:01
frnknstnSomething is automounting my flash drives when I insert them, and it should be.09:38
frnknstnI have set the options in Settings->Removable Drives And Media to not mount anything09:39
frnknstnhow can I tell what is automounting things?09:39
Sysips -e | grep hal09:39
SysiHAL may do that09:40
Sysior udev09:40
frnknstnhald-addon-stor?09:42
Sysisounds right09:43
Sysiif you're using 10.04 ou can remove hal safely09:43
frnknstnlooks like xubuntu-desktop has it as a dependancy09:44
Sysithat's because automount don't work without it :)09:45
Sysiyou can remove that also, if you don't want everything dependant from that to be removed, try to install them separately09:45
frnknstnokay thanks, I will try09:51
AppleG'day10:06
AppleHow can I make Xubuntu beautiful without installing hardware intensive software?10:07
Sysisettings → window manager tweaks →  compositing10:07
MrNazi've gotten a few windows shares showing up in gigolo, how do i get them to appear as filesystems in thunar, the way that usb disks appear in the left side panel ?10:08
SysiApple: and http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes10:08
AppleThanks babe10:09
Apple<310:09
slow-motionhi12:18
brothi slow-motion12:29
slow-motionhi brot12:30
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nicofsHow do i add a network printer?15:57
Sysiprinter settings → add printer16:01
Sysiip etc there16:01
nicofsah... didn't see the menu entry there... thanks16:03
dbdii407Does anyone have any clue why my sister's computer would start flickering white lines after a while of non-use?16:41
brotdbdii407: if you want help you should provide way more details. laptop/computer, lcd, video card, etc.16:42
dbdii407I know there's a command that can let me do that. I can't go into her room right now but I can SSH16:43
charlie-tcadbdii407: if it is just sitting idle, perhaps try a different screen saver.16:43
dbdii407Screen saver has been removed16:43
charlie-tcais it going into suspend or hibernate mode?16:44
dbdii407I'm not sure exactly. And I'm not sure of the details that brot wants16:44
charlie-tcaIt may need a setting change to help the video restart after suspending. Is it a laptop?16:45
dbdii407Desktop16:45
charlie-tcaTry changing the settings in Settings -> Xfce4 settings manager -> Power Manager16:46
charlie-tcaTell it "never" for sleep in AC16:46
charlie-tcaAlso, turn off the the settings for monitor to sleep16:47
charlie-tcanarrows it down a bit if it still does it16:47
dbdii407Well have to see. I just made the changes16:49
charlie-tcaIf that works, try letting the monitor sleep again16:50
CysiolandHey17:16
CysiolandI'm browsing this channel from Xubuntu 10.04 LiveCD17:16
charlie-tcagreat17:16
charlie-tcathen it is working17:16
CysiolandI'm thinkin' about install it on my second partition17:17
* dbdii407 does to the spanish channel17:17
CysiolandIt's much prettier than Win$hit17:17
charlie-tca!language17:17
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.17:17
CysiolandI'm sorry, in Poland we are calling Windows that17:18
dbdii407charlie-tca: Sorry. Just woke up practically. *goes17:18
charlie-tcadbdii407: you are doing fine.17:19
charlie-tcaCysioland: Windows has its place. Sometimes it is just what the user needs17:19
CysiolandI need Windows for stupid learning apps and Xubuntu for programming, multimedia, and much more17:20
charlie-tcaInstalling Xubuntu to a 2nd partition should be fine. It works for me here, but I do not have windows17:20
charlie-tcaCheck the release docs for notes about dual booting windows17:21
CysiolandFirst I must clean it17:21
CysiolandPrevious installations failed, some errors with GRUB17:21
charlie-tcaWine 1.2 was just released. You might be able to use it for those apps that need windows17:21
charlie-tcaThose errors are why you need to look in the release notes17:22
CysiolandNot for all apps, but for some17:22
CysiolandCan I run some DX9 games via Wine?17:22
charlie-tcaI don't know. I don't have anything windows to try17:23
CysiolandMaybe Fifa '0217:23
CysiolandI have original one17:23
Cysiolandlegal*17:24
CysiolandXChat is doing fine17:24
CysiolandHow to temporarily hide upper and lower bar?17:25
Sysitheir settings17:26
charlie-tcaApplications -> Settings -> Xfce4 Settings Manager -> Panel17:26
charlie-tcaSet to autohide17:26
CysiolandAutohide rulez17:26
CysiolandI can use WiFi, print, doing my work, simply doing all things that I'm doin' on Windows, but better17:33
CysiolandAlt+Tab works too17:33
handjobHi all. How can I force EOG to show pictures in order set in file manager?17:35
CysiolandCan I install Polish language for Xubuntu apps?17:35
charlie-tcaYou can install Polish language, but I don't know if it will be only for the applications17:36
charlie-tcaApplications -> System -> Language17:37
CysiolandI have it for system, but not for apps17:38
ramrodis there a terminal emulator for xfce with split window function? like terminator17:39
charlie-tcaramrod: not specifically, but you can use terminator17:39
handjobramrod: "dvtm" is software that can do it for You.17:40
ramrodcharlie-tca, yes im using it right now but i was wondering if theres something for xfce. i was wondering how the performance is between gnome programs and native xfce17:43
ramrodhandjob, thanks! will try it17:43
charlie-tcaramrod: depends on the dependencies it needs. It it is using gtk only, the same17:44
ramrodoh, youre right hah17:45
charlie-tcahmmm, should have been "If it is... "17:45
CysiolandClearlooks is cool17:49
charlie-tcaYes, I agree17:52
CysiolandXubuntu have more themes than Windows17:56
Sysi:DD17:56
CysiolandSorry for acting like a n00b17:57
Sysiand that's only for default..17:57
Sysisee http://xfce-look.org17:57
CysiolandCan I change Alt+Tab behaviour?17:59
Sysinot much17:59
CysiolandWhat that meanz?18:01
Sysiwhat do you want?18:01
CysiolandMake pop-up window more useful18:02
CysiolandLike preview of window18:02
CysiolandI can scan too18:06
CysiolandBye, I'm leaving18:08
struanhi :)18:10
struani'm trying xubuntu 10.04 on my old laptop amd mobile 1800 with 256 megs ram.. gonna ask some questions soon18:11
brotgood luck struan18:15
struandanke18:16
SnakkahHi. I was wondering if there was a way to change your hostname in Xubuntu?18:51
ridin!hostname18:52
ubottuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.18:52
ridinSnakkah ^18:53
Snakkahridin, I changed the host name. Now I can't edit the hosts file?18:55
ridinhm?18:55
SnakkahIt gives me an error "Can't open file to write" when I try to save the edited /etc/hosts file18:56
ridinare you doing it as root?18:56
SnakkahNo.18:56
SnakkahOh wait...okay haha.18:57
ridinmake sure you open them both up before changing anything18:57
Sysiso sudo broke?18:57
SnakkahI...think so.18:58
Snakkaho.o18:58
ridinare /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts are the same18:58
SnakkahNo.18:58
SnakkahShit.18:58
ridinwell, you-18:58
ridinyou can still open them up even if 'sudo if broke'18:58
ridinsudo is18:58
SnakkahHow do I do "gksudo gedit" in Xubuntu? The program gedit isn't installed, instead there's something called Mousepad. How do I use that to graphically edit something as sudo?19:00
ridinsudo mousepad19:00
SnakkahWell that's simple enough...19:00
Sysigksudo with graphicals19:01
likemindeadsudo apt-get install gedit19:01
SnakkahOkay, got it all edited.19:02
SnakkahThanks guys.19:02
xubuntu482привет19:17
xubuntu482hi19:18
dbdii407play. an update. My sister's computer is stll doing that white flickering line thing19:18
fuyaomy wireless internet always disconnects19:55
fuyaonot on my router, but inside xubuntu19:55
fuyaoand i have to restart my computer for it to connect again19:56
residentgreyany of you ever try to set up something like hiren's bootcd from linux? how would I go about doing that?19:56
residentgreywait nm I can't use usb anyway19:56
yo-mismohello20:06
yo-mismoanyone know how to fix grup errors?20:06
charlie-tca!grub20:06
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.20:06
charlie-tca!grub220:07
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:07
yo-mismothanks20:07
yo-mismogrub error 17, how can i fix it?20:08
yo-mismo!grub220:09
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:09
fuyaook help me too, my wireless internet always disconnects inside my xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu20:09
fuyaoi have to restart my computer for it to connect again20:10
yo-mismoyou must connect the router, using LAN20:10
yo-mismoi'm already installing xubuntu20:10
Sysifuyao: it just stops? and what then20:11
fuyaono my router is fine, is the wireless driver20:11
Sysiwhat wireless card?20:11
fuyaoyes the driver just stop working20:11
fuyaolinksys20:11
Sysiexact model20:11
Sysi"just stops"?20:12
fuyaothe internet just stops working20:12
fuyaoim on xubuntu 9.1020:12
charlie-tcayo-mismo: what version of xubuntu?20:13
fuyaook my wireless card is a linksys wireless-g 2.4 ghz with speedbooster20:14
fuyaoand my router is an airport extreme, and my internet type is cable20:15
fuyaoright now im using my mac as a wi-fi server and using the LAN cable to direct connect with my laptop to share the internet20:15
fuyaoim not using my wireless card right now20:16
fuyaobut i cant turn on my mac every time im on my laptop, waste my electricity bill20:18
Albrozhi ppl, can i have some help with 3d related problem on xubuntu 10.04 ??21:51
Sysibe more precise21:52
Albrozi cant run 3d games and the compize thing is not working ...21:52
brotAlbroz: what does glxinfo say?21:52
Sysiwhat graphics card do you have?21:52
Sysiiirc glxinfo isn't valid anymore21:53
Albrozintel 845 built in something21:53
Albrozhttp://linux.pastey.net/138712 <---- LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo21:53
Sysithat's pretty old for 3d21:53
Sysiwhat version of xubuntu?21:54
Albroz10.0421:54
Albrozits a 32 MB, that should support some simple 3d21:54
brotAlbroz: that part of glxinfo is more or less worthless21:55
Albroz-.-'21:55
Sysiglxinfo | grep render21:56
Sysidirect rendering: yes/no?21:56
Albrozdirect rendering: Yes21:56
AlbrozOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE221:56
Sysican you run glxgears and move it's windows?21:56
Albrozyes21:57
Sysiso you have basic 3d21:57
Albrozbut when starting assault cube - as an example, the Xserver crashes21:58
Albrozscorched 3d the same21:59
Albroztux too21:59
knomeAlbroz, i'd say your GC is just not good enough for those games.21:59
Albroz-.-'22:00
Albrozso its the GC not config thing ...22:00
Sysii hate ubuntu wiki22:00
knomeSysi, ssh22:00
Sysihard to try what you want and then it crashes22:00
Sysigood info though22:01
Sysithis is slower than xp with 256 ram22:02
knomeSysi, go whine at #ubuntu-website :P22:02
Sysisomebody's gonna die if that article has been removed22:03
knome"that article" :P22:03
Sysiit was about intel 8xx freezing/dying22:03
knomeSysi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes22:04
Sysiwhat i did wrong?22:04
knomeSysi, now, wash your mouth :P22:04
charlie-tcaknome: take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu22:26
knomecharlie-tca, yes? :)22:27
charlie-tcaleft side of the banner22:27
charlie-tcaMade official22:27
knomeokay, i was thinking whether that was there before or not ;) looks good22:28
charlie-tcaI like that one the best22:29
Xubuntu_NewbI'm running Xubuntu on a very slow computer. I have opened up aMSN and started logging in, but then the lag was to great, so I attempted to close it, and log onto MSN on another computer. Yet, despite how many times I've tried to close aMSN, it won't close. I've looked on the sys monitor, and couldn't find any process which seemed like aMsn. How can I force-quit this app?23:35
Xubuntu_Newbtoo*23:35
charlie-tcaXubuntu_Newb: look in /usr/share/applications for the item as the menu calls it. Open that file by right-click, Open-with mousepad23:42
charlie-tcaLook for exec= to see what the application running is called to kill it23:43
Xubuntu_NewbThanks, but I found something else, (should Google'd first duh), that if you press Alt+F2 and run xkill, your mouse turns into an x, and it force quits any program!23:44
charlie-tcaYes, that works too23:44
Xubuntu_NewbDo you know of any good bash guides in laymans terms (something a teency bit simpler than just using "man"), especially for networking commands, I'm interesting in experimenting with nmap. On my own network and computers of course.23:46
charlie-tcahttp://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/comm/shells/232-bash23:48
charlie-tcahttp://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/272346-bash-101-working-at-the-cli23:48
Xubuntu_NewbThank you very much23:49
charlie-tcaYou are welcome23:49
charlie-tcathis is good too - http://lcorg.blogspot.com/2010/04/new-features-in-bash-version-4x-part-1.html23:50

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