[01:15] <ridin> how come mouse themes only work if it's over firefox
[01:15] <ridin> rather, why doesn't the mouse theme completely change
[01:23] <Threnody1> Good evening. I'm really hoping there's someone in here who might be able to help me out with an installation issue. We've exhausted everything we know how to do and am ready to admit we're out of our league.
[01:27] <ridin> Just ask, someone will come
[01:29] <Threnody1> I've been trying installing Qimo on an old computer for my son to use, without success. I downloaded the iso image, verified it with an MD5 utility, and burnt it to a CD. I can run it live without issues, and all seems to work just fine. When I try to install it, I get a message that there has been an unrecoverable error, and it will now start a desktop session.
[01:30] <Threnody1> After trying to burn several new CD's, the same thing happens each time. Understanding Qimo was built off of Xubuntu, I tried to just install Xubuntu, and got the same error message.
[01:30] <ridin> are you able to install other distributions fine?
[01:30] <Threnody1> I was told it was likely an issue of not enough memory or a bad hard drive. This machine was previously dual booted with XP and Ubuntu with no problems, so it's not the memory.
[01:31] <Threnody1> Having no success with anything, I tried to reinstall Ubuntu to get rid of anything else on the drive and format the hard drive, but that is now also failing half way through the installation.
[01:31] <Threnody1> We also put in a different hard drive during this process to rule the drive out as the culprit here.
[01:32] <Threnody1> Running it live form the CD works with Qimo, Xubuntu, and Ubuntu, I just can't seem to install any of them without the process quitting about halfway through.
[01:32] <mhall119> Threnody1: did you post the Question on launchpad?
[01:33] <Threnody1> I did on the launchpad for Qimo, that was where I was told it was likely memory or a hard drive issue. Having ruled both of those out, and after having the problem with multiple distributions, I'm guessing it isn't just a problem with Qimo, but something I am doing wrong.
[01:34] <mhall119> Threnody1: like I said in the bug, it could be the IDE or SATA controller on the motherboard
[01:36] <Threnody1> We'll look into that next then. Lord knows my husband has enough spare parts around this place we ought to be able to patch together at least one working machine from them.
[01:36] <mhall119> also, just because it used to run Windows and Ubuntu, doesn't mean it can't have developed a memory problem, did you run the memory test from the CD?
[01:37] <Threnody1> Nope, I'll also do that next once I switch the monitor back over to that machine.
[01:37] <mhall119> my only other through would be to try a non-Ubuntu distro, since Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Qimo all use the same internals
[01:38] <Threnody1> It's really such a great program, I would consider just running it from the CD every time except his favorite game to play is a flash game, and installing flash and copying this game over every time he starts up the computer might be a bit much for a five year old.
[01:39] <mhall119> yeah, I wish I could ship flash installed on the CD, but licenses prevent me
[01:39] <Threnody1> On the other hand, what better way to learn. I'll go look into those things and hope it fixes it. Thank you for your time.
[01:39] <mhall119> however, if you had the inclination, you could customize the CD to include it
[01:39] <Threnody1> We'll look into that as an option if we can't get the rest of this sorted out.
[01:40] <mhall119> also, there's a #qimo channel here on freenode, though it's not very busy most of the time
[01:42] <Threnody1> After failing with several different distributions today, I figured it wasn't a Qimo specific problem, but something else on my end. I'll very likely end up popping in there from time to time once I can get this up and going.
[01:44] <mhall119> we'd be happy to have you :)
[02:15] <ridin>  why doesn't the mouse theme completely change when chosen
[02:46] <Guest83895> new linux user here, got a question
[02:50] <Guest83895> my menu/start/task bar has disappeared and I don't know how to get it back.  any ideas?
[02:53] <pleia2> !panels
[02:53] <pleia2> Guest83895: this should help :)
[02:55] <Guest83895> thanks
[02:56] <Guest83895> panels are gone, I'll try your suggestion
[02:57] <Frustrated> cannot browse network shares on windows from Xbuntu and the tips I found online are equally non worakble - any ideas for a noob
[02:59] <Frustrated> test
[03:04] <sean_> typed xfce4-panel into terminal.  got following error:
[03:05] <sean_> 'gst is mixer track (track)' failed
[04:07] <Threnody2> Hello again. I was in here earlier having issues trying to get Qimo installed onto one of our older machines. We ran a memory test that was completed without any errors, and we've replaced the hard drive already. Is it safe to assume at this point it's the motherboard, and try swapping that out next?
[04:08] <mhall119> Threnody2: that would be my next guess
[04:08] <Threnody2> Alright, we'll try that next and hope for the best then. Thanks again!
[04:08] <Threnody2> Here's to hoping for the best.
[05:06] <LinuxFrustrated> Can someone help me jus browse a simple windows network
[05:11] <LinuxFrustrated> Can someone help me jus browse a simple windows network
[05:27] <LinuxFrustrated> anyone here explain how to browse a windows share?
[05:29] <LinuxFrustrated> so far after 4 years of trying linux this is getting pathetic
[05:36] <LinuxFrustrated> anyone help anyone here
[05:59] <shey> My first question might be of no relavance to this channel 'persay' but I need to know the reason I am banned from #ubuntu. Now for the genera help. I chose Xubuntu as my install preference. I get to about 95% Cleaning up and Configuration, and the laptop just dies. Debian, Windows, Mandriva install just fine.
[06:03] <LinuxFrustrated> i am new but I would say maybe bad media - bad burn -
[06:03] <LinuxFrustrated> burn it very slow
[06:03] <shey> And the obvious would be for me to provide the details of the system, its a Dell Inspiron 600m. 1gb/80gb.
[06:04] <shey> I tried to burn it slow. A few times.
[06:05] <shey> I have not tried Kubuntu only because this is not exactly a new machine, so the gfx cannot be that great. Hence the footprint KDE leaves behind.
[06:06] <shey> And pardon the laughter of the irony of your nick helping me, thanks! But I had to chuckle. Your nick is where I was 15 years ago.
[06:11] <MrNaz> i've gotten a few windows shares showing up in gigolo, how do i get them to appear as filesystems in thunar, the way that usb disks appear in the left side panel ?
[06:16] <shey> ok evidenty #ubuntu banned the qweb client, just incase you dudes get flooded with questions about that channel.
[07:59] <scarra3> Ok I just installed xubuntu 10.04 and then installed flash but no audio is playing
[08:01] <scarra3> Any ideas?
[09:38] <frnknstn> Something is automounting my flash drives when I insert them, and it should be.
[09:39] <frnknstn> I have set the options in Settings->Removable Drives And Media to not mount anything
[09:39] <frnknstn> how can I tell what is automounting things?
[09:39] <Sysi> ps -e | grep hal
[09:40] <Sysi> HAL may do that
[09:40] <Sysi> or udev
[09:42] <frnknstn> hald-addon-stor?
[09:43] <Sysi> sounds right
[09:43] <Sysi> if you're using 10.04 ou can remove hal safely
[09:44] <frnknstn> looks like xubuntu-desktop has it as a dependancy
[09:45] <Sysi> that's because automount don't work without it :)
[09:45] <Sysi> you can remove that also, if you don't want everything dependant from that to be removed, try to install them separately
[09:51] <frnknstn> okay thanks, I will try
[10:06] <Apple> G'day
[10:07] <Apple> How can I make Xubuntu beautiful without installing hardware intensive software?
[10:07] <Sysi> settings → window manager tweaks →  compositing
[10:08] <MrNaz> i've gotten a few windows shares showing up in gigolo, how do i get them to appear as filesystems in thunar, the way that usb disks appear in the left side panel ?
[10:08] <Sysi> Apple: and http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes
[10:09] <Apple> Thanks babe
[10:09] <Apple> <3
[12:18] <slow-motion> hi
[12:29] <brot> hi slow-motion
[12:30] <slow-motion> hi brot
[15:57] <nicofs> How do i add a network printer?
[16:01] <Sysi> printer settings → add printer
[16:01] <Sysi> ip etc there
[16:03] <nicofs> ah... didn't see the menu entry there... thanks
[16:41] <dbdii407> Does anyone have any clue why my sister's computer would start flickering white lines after a while of non-use?
[16:42] <brot> dbdii407: if you want help you should provide way more details. laptop/computer, lcd, video card, etc.
[16:43] <dbdii407> I know there's a command that can let me do that. I can't go into her room right now but I can SSH
[16:43] <charlie-tca> dbdii407: if it is just sitting idle, perhaps try a different screen saver.
[16:43] <dbdii407> Screen saver has been removed
[16:44] <charlie-tca> is it going into suspend or hibernate mode?
[16:44] <dbdii407> I'm not sure exactly. And I'm not sure of the details that brot wants
[16:45] <charlie-tca> It may need a setting change to help the video restart after suspending. Is it a laptop?
[16:45] <dbdii407> Desktop
[16:46] <charlie-tca> Try changing the settings in Settings -> Xfce4 settings manager -> Power Manager
[16:46] <charlie-tca> Tell it "never" for sleep in AC
[16:47] <charlie-tca> Also, turn off the the settings for monitor to sleep
[16:47] <charlie-tca> narrows it down a bit if it still does it
[16:49] <dbdii407> Well have to see. I just made the changes
[16:50] <charlie-tca> If that works, try letting the monitor sleep again
[17:16] <Cysioland> Hey
[17:16] <Cysioland> I'm browsing this channel from Xubuntu 10.04 LiveCD
[17:16] <charlie-tca> great
[17:16] <charlie-tca> then it is working
[17:17] <Cysioland> I'm thinkin' about install it on my second partition
[17:17]  * dbdii407 does to the spanish channel
[17:17] <Cysioland> It's much prettier than Win$hit
[17:17] <charlie-tca> !language
[17:18] <Cysioland> I'm sorry, in Poland we are calling Windows that
[17:18] <dbdii407> charlie-tca: Sorry. Just woke up practically. *goes
[17:19] <charlie-tca> dbdii407: you are doing fine.
[17:19] <charlie-tca> Cysioland: Windows has its place. Sometimes it is just what the user needs
[17:20] <Cysioland> I need Windows for stupid learning apps and Xubuntu for programming, multimedia, and much more
[17:20] <charlie-tca> Installing Xubuntu to a 2nd partition should be fine. It works for me here, but I do not have windows
[17:21] <charlie-tca> Check the release docs for notes about dual booting windows
[17:21] <Cysioland> First I must clean it
[17:21] <Cysioland> Previous installations failed, some errors with GRUB
[17:21] <charlie-tca> Wine 1.2 was just released. You might be able to use it for those apps that need windows
[17:22] <charlie-tca> Those errors are why you need to look in the release notes
[17:22] <Cysioland> Not for all apps, but for some
[17:22] <Cysioland> Can I run some DX9 games via Wine?
[17:23] <charlie-tca> I don't know. I don't have anything windows to try
[17:23] <Cysioland> Maybe Fifa '02
[17:23] <Cysioland> I have original one
[17:24] <Cysioland> legal*
[17:24] <Cysioland> XChat is doing fine
[17:25] <Cysioland> How to temporarily hide upper and lower bar?
[17:26] <Sysi> their settings
[17:26] <charlie-tca> Applications -> Settings -> Xfce4 Settings Manager -> Panel
[17:26] <charlie-tca> Set to autohide
[17:26] <Cysioland> Autohide rulez
[17:33] <Cysioland> I can use WiFi, print, doing my work, simply doing all things that I'm doin' on Windows, but better
[17:33] <Cysioland> Alt+Tab works too
[17:35] <handjob> Hi all. How can I force EOG to show pictures in order set in file manager?
[17:35] <Cysioland> Can I install Polish language for Xubuntu apps?
[17:36] <charlie-tca> You can install Polish language, but I don't know if it will be only for the applications
[17:37] <charlie-tca> Applications -> System -> Language
[17:38] <Cysioland> I have it for system, but not for apps
[17:39] <ramrod> is there a terminal emulator for xfce with split window function? like terminator
[17:39] <charlie-tca> ramrod: not specifically, but you can use terminator
[17:40] <handjob> ramrod: "dvtm" is software that can do it for You.
[17:43] <ramrod> charlie-tca, yes im using it right now but i was wondering if theres something for xfce. i was wondering how the performance is between gnome programs and native xfce
[17:43] <ramrod> handjob, thanks! will try it
[17:44] <charlie-tca> ramrod: depends on the dependencies it needs. It it is using gtk only, the same
[17:45] <ramrod> oh, youre right hah
[17:45] <charlie-tca> hmmm, should have been "If it is... "
[17:49] <Cysioland> Clearlooks is cool
[17:52] <charlie-tca> Yes, I agree
[17:56] <Cysioland> Xubuntu have more themes than Windows
[17:56] <Sysi> :DD
[17:57] <Cysioland> Sorry for acting like a n00b
[17:57] <Sysi> and that's only for default..
[17:57] <Sysi> see http://xfce-look.org
[17:59] <Cysioland> Can I change Alt+Tab behaviour?
[17:59] <Sysi> not much
[18:01] <Cysioland> What that meanz?
[18:01] <Sysi> what do you want?
[18:02] <Cysioland> Make pop-up window more useful
[18:02] <Cysioland> Like preview of window
[18:06] <Cysioland> I can scan too
[18:08] <Cysioland> Bye, I'm leaving
[18:10] <struan> hi :)
[18:11] <struan> i'm trying xubuntu 10.04 on my old laptop amd mobile 1800 with 256 megs ram.. gonna ask some questions soon
[18:15] <brot> good luck struan
[18:16] <struan> danke
[18:51] <Snakkah> Hi. I was wondering if there was a way to change your hostname in Xubuntu?
[18:52] <ridin> !hostname
[18:53] <ridin> Snakkah ^
[18:55] <Snakkah> ridin, I changed the host name. Now I can't edit the hosts file?
[18:55] <ridin> hm?
[18:56] <Snakkah> It gives me an error "Can't open file to write" when I try to save the edited /etc/hosts file
[18:56] <ridin> are you doing it as root?
[18:56] <Snakkah> No.
[18:57] <Snakkah> Oh wait...okay haha.
[18:57] <ridin> make sure you open them both up before changing anything
[18:57] <Sysi> so sudo broke?
[18:58] <Snakkah> I...think so.
[18:58] <Snakkah> o.o
[18:58] <ridin> are /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts are the same
[18:58] <Snakkah> No.
[18:58] <Snakkah> Shit.
[18:58] <ridin> well, you-
[18:58] <ridin> you can still open them up even if 'sudo if broke'
[18:58] <ridin> sudo is
[19:00] <Snakkah> How do I do "gksudo gedit" in Xubuntu? The program gedit isn't installed, instead there's something called Mousepad. How do I use that to graphically edit something as sudo?
[19:00] <ridin> sudo mousepad
[19:00] <Snakkah> Well that's simple enough...
[19:01] <Sysi> gksudo with graphicals
[19:01] <likemindead> sudo apt-get install gedit
[19:02] <Snakkah> Okay, got it all edited.
[19:02] <Snakkah> Thanks guys.
[19:17] <xubuntu482> привет
[19:18] <xubuntu482> hi
[19:18] <dbdii407> play. an update. My sister's computer is stll doing that white flickering line thing
[19:55] <fuyao> my wireless internet always disconnects
[19:55] <fuyao> not on my router, but inside xubuntu
[19:56] <fuyao> and i have to restart my computer for it to connect again
[19:56] <residentgrey> any of you ever try to set up something like hiren's bootcd from linux? how would I go about doing that?
[19:56] <residentgrey> wait nm I can't use usb anyway
[20:06] <yo-mismo> hello
[20:06] <yo-mismo> anyone know how to fix grup errors?
[20:06] <charlie-tca> !grub
[20:07] <charlie-tca> !grub2
[20:07] <yo-mismo> thanks
[20:08] <yo-mismo> grub error 17, how can i fix it?
[20:09] <yo-mismo> !grub2
[20:09] <fuyao> ok help me too, my wireless internet always disconnects inside my xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu
[20:10] <fuyao> i have to restart my computer for it to connect again
[20:10] <yo-mismo> you must connect the router, using LAN
[20:10] <yo-mismo> i'm already installing xubuntu
[20:11] <Sysi> fuyao: it just stops? and what then
[20:11] <fuyao> no my router is fine, is the wireless driver
[20:11] <Sysi> what wireless card?
[20:11] <fuyao> yes the driver just stop working
[20:11] <fuyao> linksys
[20:11] <Sysi> exact model
[20:12] <Sysi> "just stops"?
[20:12] <fuyao> the internet just stops working
[20:12] <fuyao> im on xubuntu 9.10
[20:13] <charlie-tca> yo-mismo: what version of xubuntu?
[20:14] <fuyao> ok my wireless card is a linksys wireless-g 2.4 ghz with speedbooster
[20:15] <fuyao> and my router is an airport extreme, and my internet type is cable
[20:15] <fuyao> right now im using my mac as a wi-fi server and using the LAN cable to direct connect with my laptop to share the internet
[20:16] <fuyao> im not using my wireless card right now
[20:18] <fuyao> but i cant turn on my mac every time im on my laptop, waste my electricity bill
[21:51] <Albroz> hi ppl, can i have some help with 3d related problem on xubuntu 10.04 ??
[21:52] <Sysi> be more precise
[21:52] <Albroz> i cant run 3d games and the compize thing is not working ...
[21:52] <brot> Albroz: what does glxinfo say?
[21:52] <Sysi> what graphics card do you have?
[21:53] <Sysi> iirc glxinfo isn't valid anymore
[21:53] <Albroz> intel 845 built in something
[21:53] <Albroz> http://linux.pastey.net/138712 <---- LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[21:53] <Sysi> that's pretty old for 3d
[21:54] <Sysi> what version of xubuntu?
[21:54] <Albroz> 10.04
[21:54] <Albroz> its a 32 MB, that should support some simple 3d
[21:55] <brot> Albroz: that part of glxinfo is more or less worthless
[21:55] <Albroz> -.-'
[21:56] <Sysi> glxinfo | grep render
[21:56] <Sysi> direct rendering: yes/no?
[21:56] <Albroz> direct rendering: Yes
[21:56] <Albroz> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
[21:56] <Sysi> can you run glxgears and move it's windows?
[21:57] <Albroz> yes
[21:57] <Sysi> so you have basic 3d
[21:58] <Albroz> but when starting assault cube - as an example, the Xserver crashes
[21:59] <Albroz> scorched 3d the same
[21:59] <Albroz> tux too
[21:59] <knome> Albroz, i'd say your GC is just not good enough for those games.
[22:00] <Albroz> -.-'
[22:00] <Albroz> so its the GC not config thing ...
[22:00] <Sysi> i hate ubuntu wiki
[22:00] <knome> Sysi, ssh
[22:00] <Sysi> hard to try what you want and then it crashes
[22:01] <Sysi> good info though
[22:02] <Sysi> this is slower than xp with 256 ram
[22:02] <knome> Sysi, go whine at #ubuntu-website :P
[22:03] <Sysi> somebody's gonna die if that article has been removed
[22:03] <knome> "that article" :P
[22:03] <Sysi> it was about intel 8xx freezing/dying
[22:04] <knome> Sysi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[22:04] <Sysi> what i did wrong?
[22:04] <knome> Sysi, now, wash your mouth :P
[22:26] <charlie-tca> knome: take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[22:27] <knome> charlie-tca, yes? :)
[22:27] <charlie-tca> left side of the banner
[22:27] <charlie-tca> Made official
[22:28] <knome> okay, i was thinking whether that was there before or not ;) looks good
[22:29] <charlie-tca> I like that one the best
[23:35] <Xubuntu_Newb> I'm running Xubuntu on a very slow computer. I have opened up aMSN and started logging in, but then the lag was to great, so I attempted to close it, and log onto MSN on another computer. Yet, despite how many times I've tried to close aMSN, it won't close. I've looked on the sys monitor, and couldn't find any process which seemed like aMsn. How can I force-quit this app?
[23:35] <Xubuntu_Newb> too*
[23:42] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu_Newb: look in /usr/share/applications for the item as the menu calls it. Open that file by right-click, Open-with mousepad
[23:43] <charlie-tca> Look for exec= to see what the application running is called to kill it
[23:44] <Xubuntu_Newb> Thanks, but I found something else, (should Google'd first duh), that if you press Alt+F2 and run xkill, your mouse turns into an x, and it force quits any program!
[23:44] <charlie-tca> Yes, that works too
[23:46] <Xubuntu_Newb> Do you know of any good bash guides in laymans terms (something a teency bit simpler than just using "man"), especially for networking commands, I'm interesting in experimenting with nmap. On my own network and computers of course.
[23:48] <charlie-tca> http://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/comm/shells/232-bash
[23:48] <charlie-tca> http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/272346-bash-101-working-at-the-cli
[23:49] <Xubuntu_Newb> Thank you very much
[23:49] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[23:50] <charlie-tca> this is good too - http://lcorg.blogspot.com/2010/04/new-features-in-bash-version-4x-part-1.html