[08:09] <sense> good morning
[08:35] <yofel> oh cool, you can set the Expired status by mail XD
[09:23] <pedro_> hello folks
[09:34] <vish> pedro_: morn!
[09:35] <vish> sense: hggdh: hi , why is this invalid in SC > Bug #550955 ?
[09:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 550955 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "About window is modal and doesn't look like it (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/550955
[09:37] <vish> hmm , no om26er around even now..
[09:37] <sense> vish: I have no idea. You should ask Omer about that.
[09:37] <sense> vish: When no reason is given it is my opinion that it is our right to revert the status change. :)
[09:37] <vish> sense: yeah , i wanted to make sure if i'm *not* the only one who has no clue!
[09:37] <vish> pedro_: any guesses? ^
[09:38] <vish> sense: i'm getting tired of pm'img om26er everytime or commenting on bugs..
[09:38] <sense> He has a hard time learning some things indeed.
[09:38] <vish> sense: you remember the last time he did that :s
[09:39] <sense> It's a shame because he does want to do work, but apparently our logic is different from his.
[09:39] <vish> yes , for some reason he does not understand that others follow bugs too :(
[09:40] <vish> i'v tried telling him on pm's several times and i think there needs to be a line drawn somewhere!
[09:40] <sense> But how?
[09:40] <vish> sense: persia had been complaining the same thing even when he was given the BC status..
[09:41] <sense> Maybe we should revoke is Bug Control membership? :S
[09:41] <vish> sense: if thats what it takes ... to get some sanity check..
[09:45] <vish> too many times there is no comment..
[09:45] <vish> Bug #529759 medium > low , no comment why..
[09:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 529759 in gwibber (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "The reply function is duplicated (affects: 1) (heat: 33)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529759
[09:48] <vish> to check who marked bug dup , we need to see activity log! Bug #606447
[09:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 606447 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "unable to add facebook (dup-of: 595265)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606447
[09:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 595265 in gwibber (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "Can not add Facebook account as add button not displayed after authorisation. (affects: 107) (dups: 18) (heat: 587)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595265
[09:49] <vish> why is Bug #598540 "incomplete" , hadnt we decided *not* to mark bugs that need forwarding incomplete?
[09:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 598540 in empathy (Ubuntu) "[wishlist] Empathy should mirror webcam video stream (affects: 1) (heat: 145)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598540
[09:49] <pedro_> vish, better to talk to om26er about the change of status without adding a comment, could you send him an email to ask or add a comment at the report?
[09:50] <pedro_> vish, eek for the duplicates that's not a big issue, in fact i would say that's a launchpad bug
[09:50] <vish> pedro_: i'm truly tired of doing this for a very long time..
[09:50] <pedro_> when i don't have a lot of time and dealing with bunch of bugs i just mark as a dup without putting a comment
[09:50] <vish> pedro_: every time he does something with no comment , i'v been pm'iing him
[09:50] <pedro_> the reporter/subscribers are going to get an email about the change anyways
[09:50] <pedro_> if that's not reflected on the launchpad ui well that's abug
[09:51] <pedro_> bugzilla does it automatically
[09:51] <yofel> not really a LP bug, I think you can select the changes you want to have visible, and the lp-gm-scripts will show who marked the bug as a dup too
[09:51] <vish> pedro_: dups are fine.. but status changes , importance changes?
[09:51] <pedro_> only if you have the lp-gm-scripts ;-)
[09:51] <yofel> true ;)
[09:51] <pedro_> for status/importances changes i'm agreed ;-)
[09:51] <yofel> vish: well, I agree with you there (esp. importance)
[09:52] <vish> marking a bug invalid with no comment is truly silly!
[09:53] <vish> pedro_: why i mentioned the comment for dup , once we discussed [on pm] he said that users are commenting on dups instead of the main bugs... but anyway..
[09:53] <vish> mainly not really happy with status/importance changes :/
[09:53] <yofel> users are commenting on dups all the time..
[09:54] <pedro_> well that happens sometimes but you can always say "please comment on bug blah instead"
[09:54] <vish> pedro_: not a problem for me either if users comment on dups ;)
[09:54] <pedro_> vish, i can contact him if you want to
[09:54] <vish> but it was a problem for him :D
[09:55] <vish> pedro_: thanks. pls do , I'v tried to be polite and not make it an issue  , but its getting too tiring :(
[09:55] <pedro_> vish, heh, alright let me contact om26er to see what's going on there ;-)
[09:56] <drew212> how do i figure out if an application is on the official repos?
[09:56] <pedro_> oh we had a great feedback regarding the call for video topics
[09:56] <pedro_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/ProposedVideos <- even volunteers!!
[09:56]  * pedro_ dancing
[09:56] <yofel> drew212: apt-cache policy , rmadison?
[09:57] <yofel> or apt-cache search for that matter, if you can't find it it isn't in the official repos. packages.ubuntu.com might help too
[09:57] <pedro_> don't tell to hggdh our secret
[09:57] <pedro_> oops
[09:58] <yofel> ^^
[10:01] <drew212> thanks yofel
[10:05] <yofel> drew212: if you can't clear it up yourself just request the apt-cache policy output from the reporter
[10:07] <drew212> i just used sudo apt-cache search [program name] and it gave me a list of programs that contained the name, and i searched the list for the correct program
[10:08] <drew212> thanks again, but i must be off to bed =X
[10:25] <vish> yofel: lp-gm-scripts is the same one or is that a new one?
[10:25] <vish> same as lp-enchancements
[10:26] <vish> hmm , i think i have lp-gm-sripts...
[10:26]  * vish checks..
[10:27] <yofel> the same
[10:27] <vish> yofel: oh , where's the option to display the "who marked bug dup"?
[10:27] <yofel> I used the project, not the package name
[10:27] <yofel> https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-gm-scripts
[10:27] <vish> ah , righto..
[10:29] <yofel> ah, I misread that, it doesn't show it :(
[10:30] <vish> yofel: cool , np.. :)
[11:28]  * hggdh starts hunting for the secret
[11:28] <pedro_> first clue: has a tail
[11:29] <pedro_> hggdh, ^
[11:29] <hggdh> pedro_: is it a... dog?
[11:31] <pedro_> hggdh, no is not :-P
[11:32] <pedro_> vish, don't tell him!
[11:33] <vish> :D
[12:15] <om26er> bug 414107 the patch is a simple fix to add scrollbar(came from upstream). the bug is fixed in meego and there dont seem to be any activity on the upstream bug for a few months. how to get it fixed in Ubuntu?
[12:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 414107 in gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Palimpsest GUI impossible to use on small screen (affects: 24) (dups: 4) (heat: 137)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414107
[12:29] <vish> om26er: fyi , no one wants to take you out! , you do a lot of work. but it is when you mark bugs like Bug #550955 invalid for no known reason , and no one knows why it is difficult for others
[12:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 550955 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "About window is modal and doesn't look like it (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/550955
[12:32] <om26er> vish, ok. software center bugs are only tracked in Ubuntu and a comment is necessary indeed.
[12:33] <vish> om26er: cool , its better if it is mentioned on the bug too. thanks!
[16:48] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[16:53]  * nigelb cheers for BlackZ :)
[16:54] <BlackZ> thanks nigelb :P
[17:09] <nigelb> BlackZ: w00t w00t.  Congrats!
[17:09] <BlackZ> thanks nigelb :)
[17:14] <vish> BlackZ: congrats! :)
[17:14] <BlackZ> thanks vish, thanks all :)
[17:15]  * vish chuckles at nigelb's *probable* tab fail ;p
[17:15] <nigelb> :D
[17:15] <nigelb> of all the places to have a fail
[17:15] <nigelb> It has to be in meeting room, when in sesion, sigh
[17:50] <stanley_robertso> hi nigelb
[17:50] <nigelb> hi
[18:57] <drew212> What should i do if a bug is something so obscure you have to TRY to reproduce it? The bug should be forwarded upstream, but you have to take certain steps in the right order to reproduce that it's on the verge of ridiculous. See bug 607863.
[18:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 607863 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "input text box disappeard (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607863
[19:03] <yofel> drew212: er, that bug is already reported upstream?
[19:03] <yofel> (I can't reproduce it btw. ^^)
[19:04] <drew212> yofel: i havent checked yet...
[19:04] <drew212> yofel: i can reproduce it, you just have to follow the steps, exactly to a T
[19:04]  * yofel tries again
[19:04] <drew212> make sure when you highlight the text, you start from the beginning(go from left to right)... it doesnt work if you go backwards
[19:06] <drew212> i am able to get it to appear intermittently...
[19:06] <yofel> 7 - Move the cursor to the button of "Search with google" until a hand cursor appear.
[19:07] <yofel> with mouse still pressed?
[19:07] <drew212> yes
[19:07] <drew212> its not working for me now =(, i was able to reproduce it 2 or 3 times
[19:07] <drew212> there, i got it to work =)
[19:08] <yofel> problem: if I hold the mouse pressed, I never get a 'hand' cursor untill I release it
[19:08] <yofel> actually the mouse focus never leaves the text field
[19:09] <drew212> you hit control after you're done highlighting the text...
[19:09] <yofel> yes, but I'm not supposed to release the mouse
[19:09] <drew212> err before
[19:09] <yofel> aaah
[19:11] <vish> hrm , whats up with the bug?  comment starts at #4
[19:11] <drew212> yofel, i had to refresh google a few times to get it to work...
[19:12] <yofel> vish: imports from the mozilla bugtracker
[19:12] <vish> and it has the bug description in comment #4 ,..
[19:12] <vish> yofel: oh!..
[19:13] <vish> yofel: how does it import?  does it select certain comments or just all new comments?
[19:13] <yofel> I don't get launchpads numbering either though...
[19:15] <yofel> not sure, ask micahg or ddecator maybe, the imports aren't enabled for the bugtrackers I usually work with
[19:16] <vish> hmm , but i think there is some lp problem there too , the comment#4 is the bug description than a simple import from bugtracking...
[19:17] <vish> first time I'm seeing it too.. i'v heard it had been turned on..
[19:39] <njin> Hello, unfortunately i don't know KDE. Can someone help me with bug 366237 ?. Thanks
[19:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 366237 in ubuntu "Loading bar jumps back to 5% after reching 90% (heat: 4)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/366237
[22:47] <Darxus> It looks like packages.ubuntu.com isn't listing versions in lucid-updates?
[22:47] <Darxus> That really... screwed me.
[22:48] <Darxus> The thing I fought with for hours was fixed, in lucid-updates.