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pittiGood morning09:35
seb128chrisccoulson, ArneGoetje: hey, how is the langpack changes for the firefox search in .1 going?09:37
chrisccoulsonhi seb128, are you with rick atm?09:37
seb128chrisccoulson, hey, yes, meeting for lucid .109:38
seb128chrisccoulson, do you need something?09:38
chrisccoulsoni was going to suggest that i come and visit ;)09:39
seb128chrisccoulson, I don't think it's required, we are going through the buglist and iso validations09:40
seb128chrisccoulson, we are just late and we need that change in today or tomorrow09:40
chrisccoulsonseb128 - the main issue is that we already have the langpacks for .109:41
seb128we suggested doing a manual updates to the concerned languages09:41
seb128not a new export09:41
ArneGoetjeseb128: yep, I just need the data09:44
seb128chrisccoulson, ^ do you have those datas?09:45
chrisccoulsonseb128 - i do: https://pastebin.canonical.com/34805/09:45
seb128chrisccoulson, thanks, can you work with ArneGoetje to get that in?09:46
baptistemmhello09:48
chrisccoulsonseb128 - yeah, sure. i think we're ok now09:50
seb128chrisccoulson, ok, thanks, let me know when it's uploaded09:56
ftaseb128, the gtk/cairo rendering but i had with chromium, the clokc applet and many other apps is bug 60597909:56
seb128or ready for upload09:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 605979 in gtk2-engines-murrine (Ubuntu) "Buttons rendered wrong (with white background) with nvidia-current (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60597909:56
seb128fta, thanks09:56
ftaseb128, the debdiff fixes it all for me09:56
seb128fta, ok, so it's video driver specific for some reason09:57
seb128that explains why I didn't get it09:57
ftabut properly closing the surfaces looks like a good idea anyway09:58
ftaas cairo 1.9 is now enforcing it09:58
seb128fta, right10:00
ArneGoetjechrisccoulson: language-pack-zh-hans in lucid-proposed10:56
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kenvandinerodrigo_, bummer that you won't be making it to the rally13:14
rodrigo_kenvandine, yeah, sucks, but going on Wed (arriving at 6PM) and getting back on Friday, just for 1.5 days, was not worthy, so trying to follow it from here13:18
kenvandineyeah13:18
rodrigo_kenvandine, just saw you merged my branch, thanks!13:19
kenvandinenp13:19
rodrigo_kenvandine, btw, for u1-client, dobey told me that he just gets lp:ubuntu/u1-client, does the package from there, dput's the package, and then the branch is merged automatically to lp:ubuntu/u1-client13:20
rodrigo_kenvandine, should I do the same for couchdb-glib/evo-couchdb, or should I keep using the ubuntu-desktop branch?13:20
kenvandinerodrigo_, either way...13:20
rodrigo_so, the ubuntu-desktop branch is merged from the lp:ubuntu... one?13:21
kenvandinerodrigo_, no13:24
kenvandinelp:ubuntu/couchdb-glib is from the automatic imports13:24
kenvandineso no common ancestor13:24
rodrigo_ok, so if I do it dobey's way, yhe ubuntu-desktop branch will be out of date, right?13:25
kenvandineyeah13:25
kenvandineit will be abandoned basically13:25
rodrigo_ok, will keep using that then13:25
rodrigo_ah13:25
kenvandinebut either way13:26
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TheMusorobert_ancell: http://live.gnome.org/GAP/AtkGuide13:36
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dobeyrodrigo_: i try to avoid maintaining multiple package branches if possible14:00
dobeyor when possible, rather14:00
dobeykenvandine: do we really need the ~ubuntu-desktop pkg branches for u1?14:27
kenvandinedobey, no14:28
dobeykenvandine: should we make them 'disappear' ? :)14:30
seb128dobey, hey14:31
dobeyseb128: hey dude. how's prague?14:32
seb128dobey, did you have any bug to track your ubuntuone-client lucid sru?14:32
seb128dobey, it's going fine so far I think ;-)14:32
seb128dobey, you got 8 bugs fixed and verified in the previous upload14:32
seb128but you added an another upload with no bug in the changelog14:32
seb128which drops patches which should have been dropped in the previous upload?14:33
seb128(seeing the changelog)14:33
seb128dobey, the result is that the upload with the 8 bug fixes got stucked and will likely not be on lucid .114:33
dobeylet me look again, it's been abit since i uploaded it :)14:33
dobeyseb128: the second upload has those bug fixes14:34
seb128right14:34
seb128but why did you do a new upload?14:34
dobeyseb128: the second upload removes a patch i forgot to remove with the first upload, and a fix for a lintian error14:34
seb128there is no bug associated with it explaining what was wrong with the previous one14:35
dobeybecause the first upload was FTBFS14:35
seb128hum14:35
seb128that's concerning14:35
dobeybecause i forgot to remove the patch14:35
seb128oh ok, the testing was done on the second upload14:38
seb128you should use -v when doing the source build next time14:38
dobey-v?14:38
seb128to include both changelog entries14:38
dobeyah ok14:38
seb128debuild -S -v<lucid_updates_version>14:38
seb128you would have both changelog entries listed14:39
seb128which wouldn't have confused the sru summary etc14:39
seb128thanks14:39
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dobeyseb128: ok, now i know, and knowing is like 150% of the battle or something :)14:42
seb128hehe14:42
seb128I'm trying to get the update in .114:42
seb128dobey, also the keyring issue is still there and is a bug in python-gnomekeyring14:44
seb128I get the same issue when using the gnome-python-desktop examples14:44
seb128I tried in a guest session14:44
seb128I can't find the translated name in any source or translation though14:44
dobeyseb128: ok, that's weird14:44
seb128so I'm puzzled about it14:44
dobeysince python-gnomekeyring is just a very slim wrapper over the C api. I don't think there's any "real" code in it14:45
seb128right, which is why I'm puzzle14:45
seb128the name is coming from somewhere though14:45
dobeywhat is the french version that's breaking it?14:50
seb128it's "par_défaut"14:51
seb128i.e par_défaut.keyring14:51
dobeyoh, wow, i didn't realize that the lp translations ui was this bad14:53
seb128dobey, /usr/share/doc/python-gnomekeyring/examples/keyring.py14:55
seb128you can use that as an example to trigger the bug14:55
seb128or run ubuntuone-preferences14:55
dobeyok, gnome-python-desktop doesn't have any translations in lp it seems14:56
seb128it's only bindings14:57
seb128it doesn't have any upstream either14:57
dobeyyeah14:57
seb128#. TRANSLATORS: This is the name of an automatically created default keyring.15:02
seb128msgid "Default"15:02
seb128msgstr "Par défaut"15:02
seb128libgnome-keyring15:03
seb128#: ../library/gnome-keyring.c:268515:03
dobeylovely15:03
seb128so it's a libgnome-keyring issue15:03
dobeyi wonder why that didn't show up in my search15:03
dobeybad launchpad15:03
* seb128 opens gnome-keyring.c:268515:03
seb128../library/gnome-keyring.c:268515:03
seb128ups15:03
dobeyyeah, gnome-keyring bug15:03
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RAOFlibgnome-keyring also has some awkward threading issues (ie: it sometimes dies when I try to access it from a thread other than the gtk main thread).  This is annoying.15:13
dobeyRAOF: welcome to gtk+ development.15:20
dobeyRAOF: i think you missed all the fun immediately before the lucid release, with the keyring threading issues.15:20
RAOFNo, I didn't miss that at all.15:21
dobeyah15:21
RAOFBut libgnome-keyring _used_ to be threadsafe, and then 2.30 broke it.15:22
RAOF(Which made gnome-keyring-sharp non-threadsafe, and stuff was depending on it)15:22
dobeyoh, i am fully aware15:25
RAOFAnd then the secret-store DBus api will eventually happen, and someone will want to just go ahead and implement that in C# rather than wrapping libgnome-keyring.  And the magical ponies will dance on unicorns.15:26
dobeythe secret-store dbus api has happened. gnome-keyring is just the only thing that implements any of it right now15:30
dobeyand using dbus in a gtk+ app without having the dbus stuff in the glib main thread can be quite painful15:31
seb128slomo, do you know if somebody is packaging libdmapsharing or libpeas in Debian?15:33
seb128robert_ancell, ^15:33
seb128those are the ones we would need, first one for rhythmbox daap, the second one for totem15:33
seb128but the second is probably not an issue for now since we don't update15:33
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slomoseb128: i'm interested in both but don't have the time15:53
slomoseb128: no idea if someone else is going to package them15:53
seb128slomo, ok, we might do those15:53
slomoso you'll have a gtk+3 totem?15:53
seb128slomo, btw did you see that robert_ancell started on gdk-pixbuf?15:53
slomoyes15:54
seb128slomo, no, as said before " but the second is probably not an issue for now since we don't update"15:54
seb128slomo, libdmapsharing is required in the current rhythmbox15:54
slomoah15:54
slomogood15:54
robert_ancellok, I will have do those two15:55
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and471vish, mpt, afternoon16:58
and471mpt, vish, sorry gents, my graphics card crashed :(   afternoon :-)17:01
mpthi and47117:03
mptbbl17:04
vishand471: hey.. :)17:09
vishand471: are you on maverick , or lucid?  [crash..]17:10
and471vish, lucid17:15
and471vish, what is the bug?17:16
* and471 just had an amazing day paintballing17:16
vishand471: nah , i was wondering about your bug/crash :)17:16
and471vish, oh ok :)17:16
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dobeyjames_w: ping?17:44
dobeyjames_w: the auto-importer seems to have broken again. new ubuntuone-storage-protocol uploaded last week, but bzr branch still has the previous release17:45
dobeyjames_w: do you have any idea what's causing these issues to pop up with the imports?17:45
faganwhats the package name for the time indicator?17:56
faganIts saying friday when its tuesday17:56
* fagan thought he was going crazy17:56
faganah I got it17:58
dobeyfagan: i've had some of the applets in my panel sort of 'freeze' up at times. like the normal clock applet even.17:58
dobeynot sure what is wrong though :(17:58
fagandobey: so its a known issue17:58
faganhmmmm17:58
jpdsfagan: Surely it being Friday should be a good thing?17:59
faganjpds: well am supposed to do something on friday so me thinking its friday kinda wasnt helpful :)17:59
dobeyfagan: the clock applet will stop 'updating' the text for the time, in the panel. but i can click on it and open the calendar, and prefs and stuff. switching to 24h time, and back to 12h 'fixes' the problem for me18:00
dobeyat least, until it happens again18:00
faganoh ok18:00
dobeyyesterday, it was showing 11:03 for almost an hour. i looked up and thought "i'm pretty hungry, it's GOTTA be later than that" :)18:01
dobeyand of course, it was noon already :(18:01
fagandobey: I suppose its not stable yet for a reason18:01
faganthe time works fine for me18:01
faganits just the date18:02
faganand the day18:02
dobeyfagan: i was getting this in lucid.18:02
dobeyfagan: this is with the upstream clock applet. i'm not using the indicator18:03
faganwow thats weird18:03
dobeyfagan: but i have no idea why it's breaking18:03
dobeyi thought it was a theme issue, but that doesn't seem to be the case18:03
fagandoes upstream?18:03
faganknow I mean18:03
dobeyi don't know if it's an upstream issue or an ubuntu issue18:08
dobeyi don't know if there's a bug for it either, i haven't had time to deal with it beyond just changing the pref to poke it back into reality18:08
dobeyerr18:09
dobeyi don't know if it's an upstream issue or an ubuntu issue18:09
dobeysince you probably missed that :)18:09
faganI just got a nice crash in empathy18:09
faganhehe18:09
faganempathy + IRC = Bad18:09
dobeyheh18:10
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faganwhy is it so quiet in here today20:52
faganis it a holiday or something?20:52
dobeyno20:53
dobeybut the platform rally is happening this week20:53
faganah ok20:53
dobeyso maybe it will be a little quieter than normal :)20:53
faganI was wondering where everyone was20:53
faganI wanted to ping mvo but he wasnt online all day20:53
faganShould have finished a patch for him last week but have it more or less finished now for him to have a look at20:54
dobeyah. i suspect he is having beer now20:54
faganlol probably20:54
fagan:)20:55
dobeybut i am not at the rally, so i don't know anything about what's going on for sure :)20:55
dobeyand if i was there, i'd probably be having beer instead of chatting with you, right now, too :)20:55
faganlol20:55
* fagan feels like getting a beer now but has none :(20:55
dobeyi don't have any either :(20:56
fagantea will have to do20:57
faganyou know what would be insane if ubuntu used mumble instead of IRC20:58
* fagan has weird thoughts like this sometimes20:58
faganMumble is voice chat if you didnt know. Imagine #ubuntu in voice chat20:59
faganlol20:59
dobeyheh20:59
dobeyyeah i know what mumble is20:59
dobeyyeah, i could see random people joining and speaking russian20:59
faganMy heroes of newerth clan just got a private server20:59
faganand we have no russians21:00
fagan:)21:00
dobeywell, you aren't #ubuntu :)21:00
faganjust english speeking21:00
faganit crashes empathy IRC21:00
dobeythere's a telepathy plug-in for mumble?21:00
fagannope21:00
dobeyor #ubuntu crashes empathy?21:01
faganyep21:01
dobeynice21:01
dobeygood thing i don't use empathy, or go into #ubuntu :)21:01
faganWhen empathy goes onto the room it freezes trying to load the people list21:01
faganthen it crashes the client when it gets too many messages21:02
faganplus it uses a lot of cpu when its on #ubuntu too21:02
faganits really busy there21:02
faganI think im the only one who uses empathy as an IRC client21:02
faganin the world21:02
fagan:)21:02
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