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[16:09] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:09] hello everyone [16:09] Agenda is at: [16:09] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda [16:09] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda [16:10] [TOPIC] Action Items [16:10] New Topic: Action Items [16:10] I'm currently on 3G in a bus, so my internet is all but reliable (and I have a latency of 1000ms). So it might take a while before I answer, sorry ... [16:10] [ACTION] Cody to write an e-mail to the list concerning the layout/format of the DMB meeting - membership first [16:10] ACTION received: Cody to write an e-mail to the list concerning the layout/format of the DMB meeting - membership first [16:11] * persia tries to puzzle out wiki history harder [16:12] the applications/agenda items are ordered by the time of their addition [16:12] Oh, excellent! [16:13] or more exactly numbered [16:13] [TOPIC] NetworkManager Package Set upload application for Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre [16:13] New Topic: NetworkManager Package Set upload application for Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre [16:13] cyphermox said to me in person that he might not be able to make it; but I think this was due to miscommunication of meeting time so this may no longer be true [16:13] I am there [16:13] persia: we need to decide on the package set itself first [16:13] (sorry about the confusion on this) [16:13] Ah, right. [16:14] [TOPIC] Network Manager package set [16:14] New Topic: Network Manager package set [16:14] didn't we defer it due to missing feedback from asac? [16:14] ... I could go and beat asac until he shows up here [16:15] hey [16:15] i am fully supportive for cyphermox application for nm and friends upload rights [16:15] he has been doing an awesome job for quite some time [16:16] asac: We're still trying to sort the packageset: [16:16] and is more than familiar with the problems involved there [16:16] See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2010-June/000072.html [16:16] sure [16:16] those packages look good [16:16] maybe even wpasupplicant ... though thats well maintianed in debian [16:17] do you need more info? [16:18] Does anyone have questions about the packageset before we vote? [16:18] cyphermox: Do you have an explicit opinion about addition/non-addition of wpasupplicant? [16:18] * geser has none [16:18] persia; I'm fine with showing up again at a later time for wpasupplicant given I have never touched it before. I agree it should eventually be part of the set [16:19] no question [16:20] I'm tempted to add wpasupplicant to the set if asac and cyphermox think it belongs, unless anyone has an opinion otherwise. [16:20] I have no objection [16:20] cool [16:20] thanks ... (... also for poking me persia ;)) [16:21] Is wpa_supplicant used by something else than NM ? if not, I'm fine with it being part of the NM set [16:21] [VOTE] A Network Manager package set to be established containing network-manager, network-manager-applet, network-manager-pptp, network-manager-openvpn, network-manager-vpnc, network-manager-openconnect, modemmanager, wpasupplicant, with membership in the associated developer group to be administered by the DMB [16:21] Please vote on: A Network Manager package set to be established containing network-manager, network-manager-applet, network-manager-pptp, network-manager-openvpn, network-manager-vpnc, network-manager-openconnect, modemmanager, wpasupplicant, with membership in the associated developer group to be administered by the DMB. [16:21] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [16:21] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [16:21] +1 [16:21] +1 received from cjwatson. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [16:21] stgraber, afaik, it will eventually be used by connman [16:22] (if not already) [16:22] +1 [16:22] +1 received from geser. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [16:22] +1 [16:22] +1 received from persia. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [16:24] +1 [16:24] +1 received from stgraber. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [16:24] [ENDVOTE] [16:24] Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4 [16:24] (sorry, lost internet for a few minutes) [16:25] cjwatson: Would you be up for creating that set in LP? [16:25] cyphermox: will you also take care of conman or will that be someone else ? [16:25] yep [16:25] action me [16:25] stgraber, I will be taking care of it as well [16:25] [ACTION] cjwatson to create network-manager packageset and associated development group in launchpad. [16:25] ACTION received: cjwatson to create network-manager packageset and associated development group in launchpad. [16:26] [TOPIC] NetworkManager Package Set upload application for Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre [16:26] New Topic: NetworkManager Package Set upload application for Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre [16:26] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mtrudel/PPUApplication [16:26] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mtrudel/PPUApplication [16:29] cyphermox: You see to have only asac's live testimonial and no comments in your application: did you have trouble in your comment solicitation process? [16:29] persia, it's more that I've been doing nm-related work mostly only with asac [16:31] persia: i added my comments ot a different page a while ago [16:31] that was about a per package upload application i think rather than a package set [16:31] so i guess we just didnt move it over [16:31] asac: motu [16:32] really? hmm [16:32] then i got confused [16:32] Probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mtrudel/DeveloperApplication (which is a bit old) [16:32] asac: If you want to confirm that the comments from that apply to the current application, that's fine (if you don't want to copy/paste for some reason) [16:33] cyphermox: any ideas on how we could make SRUs easier while keeping regressions low? (from your "like least" section) [16:34] geser, yes. It basically boils down to more testing, and perhaps even doing pre-proposed testing in PPAs and the like [16:34] I was fond of suggesting using other systems I have access to, but it's not easily feasible, sadly [16:35] the network-manager parts are valid. let me know if you need me to add more content there. but please dont hold back the approval process because of that if possible [16:37] cyphermox: how do you plan to get the attention of user for the testing or can you do that even without users? [16:37] added endorsement [16:37] actually, i think we can do some amounts of testing without users as well... I'm working hard atm to get more testing done using checkbox, and I think we should strive to enable unit testing where available [16:38] e.g. NetworkManager, for example ;) [16:40] Any other questions? [16:40] no [16:40] nope [16:40] nope [16:41] [VOTE] Confirm Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre (cyphermox) as a Network Manager developer [16:41] Please vote on: Confirm Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre (cyphermox) as a Network Manager developer. [16:41] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [16:41] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [16:41] +1 [16:41] +1 received from persia. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [16:41] +1 [16:41] +1 received from cjwatson. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [16:41] +1 [16:41] +1 received from stgraber. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [16:42] \o/ [16:43] +1 [16:43] +1 received from geser. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [16:43] [ENDVOTE] [16:43] Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4 [16:43] cyphermox: Congratulations [16:43] thanks! [16:43] [TOPIC] Contributing Developer application for David Sugar [16:43] New Topic: Contributing Developer application for David Sugar [16:43] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DavidSugar/DeveloperApplication [16:43] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DavidSugar/DeveloperApplication [16:44] I believe this application to be pointless, as dyfet is already (recently) an Ubuntu Member, so we'd not be doing anything by LP group manipulation. [16:45] If you think that is correct process, I can understand the reasoning [16:46] that seems reasonable; of course dyfet's application for this predates his membership [16:46] dyfet: it would only give you an additional badge on your LP page as your already an Ubuntu member [16:46] yes, the purpose of universe-contributors is "membership by the development path" [16:46] it doesn't AIUI confer privileges beyond that [16:47] dyfet: Do you care whether you have the extra badge on your LP page? [16:47] Long term my goal is MOTU, so it was suggested to go this route first [16:48] UUC is not required for MOTU but a option to get Ubuntu membership on ones way towards MOTU [16:49] it's because it's usually harder to get membership from a RMB as they tend to mostly grant membership to non-developers (not always true though) and then suggest to go to the DMB for membershipin that case. The result is still the same and won't affect your future MOTU application. [16:50] Then perhaps it makes sense to table this and prepare the MOTU application when appropriate? [16:52] dyfet: Your choice. We can do it (easily), or skip it. Just tell us which, and then we'll move on to the next agenda item. [16:52] * persia is sure no vote is required, as it's no permissions gained (nor shall be any in the future, from this choice). [16:52] Well. I do not want to hold up this meeting. If there is time remaining at the end, lets revisit, so that others have time to do things :) [16:52] Right, moving on. [16:53] [TOPIC] MOTU Application for Lorenzo De Liso [16:53] New Topic: MOTU Application for Lorenzo De Liso [16:53] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LorenzoDeLiso/MOTUApplication [16:53] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LorenzoDeLiso/MOTUApplication [16:53] \o [16:56] (I guess people are reading) [16:56] BlackZ: You've not indicated there'S anything you like least, which I have trouble believing. Would you be able to answer the question if phrased as "What do you think is the most important thing to improve in Ubuntu?" [16:57] persia: I think we should tell the ubuntu contributors to contribute to debian too [16:57] it's very important, as debian is our upstream [16:58] I mean, getting the packages there instead of ubuntu only [16:58] BlackZ is making tumbleweed happy :P [16:58] and other things, e.g. forwarding patches when we do merges [16:58] BlackZ: Do you have any suggestions on how we could encourage or reward this behaviour? It's a common goal, but many (especially newer) folks seem to want to avoid "doing the work twice", having yet to experience merges, etc. [16:59] persia: first we should encourage new ubuntu contributors to read debian procedures for get their work there [16:59] because if you're contributing to debian, you're contributing to ubuntu too (see the packages, for example) [16:59] what this, I don't want to say we should encourage to contribute *just* to debian [17:00] but I think new contributors should understand that debian is important for us [17:01] BlackZ: +1 [17:01] Any other questions for BlackZ? [17:01] BlackZ: what did you do/plan to do about the concerns mentioned by tumbleweed? [17:02] geser: referring to Stefano and Charlie Smotherman's comments' they're right and now I'm forwarding relevant changes/patches to debian, and upstream if needed, for example, please see bug #604976 and #605210. I promise I will triple-check my future debdiffs before uploading them [17:02] Launchpad bug 604976 in tvtime (Debian) "Please merge tvtime 1.0.2-6 (universe) from debian unstable (main)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/604976 [17:02] Launchpad bug 605210 in ntfs-config (Ubuntu) "Please merge ntfs-config 1.0.1-6 (universe) from debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605210 [17:02] (although we all make mistakes - re checking) [17:03] and I will do that as MOTU too, obviously [17:04] persia: no more questions, you can proceed [17:04] persia had a hard-freeze on his laptop; he's working on it [17:04] we need him for a completed vote anyway, so I guess we have to wait [17:07] [VOTE] Confirm Lorenzo De Liso (BlackZ) as MOTU [17:07] Please vote on: Confirm Lorenzo De Liso (BlackZ) as MOTU. [17:07] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [17:07] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [17:08] +1 [17:08] +1 received from geser. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [17:08] +1 [17:08] +1 received from persia. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [17:08] +1 [17:08] +1 received from cjwatson. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [17:08] +1 [17:08] +1 received from stgraber. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [17:08] [ENDVOTE] [17:08] Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4 [17:08] BlackZ: Congratulations! [17:09] thanks all [17:09] [TOPIC] MOTU Application for Elliot Murphy [17:09] New Topic: MOTU Application for Elliot Murphy [17:09] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ElliotMurphy/3rdDeveloperApplication [17:09] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ElliotMurphy/3rdDeveloperApplication [17:10] hello [17:10] statik: Welcome back [17:10] after seeing the NetworkManager packageset creation, I think I should defer the PPU application portion and come back with a proposal for an Ubuntu One packageset. I would like to be considered for MOTU at this time [17:11] thanks persia [17:11] statik: OK. We'll only consider the MOTU portion of things today. [17:12] cool [17:13] g33 [17:13] does someone remember the reason why the last MOTU application got declined? [17:14] it was just "come back with a bit more breadth", wasn't it? [17:14] MY memory is that we didn't confirm due to lack of breadth at that time. [17:14] ok [17:14] it was a split vote, with a suggestion that i return after getting experience [17:15] statik: james_w's testimonial suggests you would improve with a bit more experience. Do you feel that this experience is better gained before becoming MOTU, or whilst MOTU? If the latter, how would you expect to handle cases where you're uncertain? [17:15] * cjwatson idly wonders who couldn't improve with experience ... [17:15] * persia suspects nobody [17:16] persia: that testimonial is from my prior application, so i've learned a fair amount since then. I am very comfortable stopping and asking for help when i encounter something new or am uncertain about the implications of an upload [17:18] the best way to improve judgement is to gain experience in a safe environment, and I feel comfortable asking for MOTU rights now even though for some parts of universe I would seek review/advice from other developers before breaking things [17:20] Anyone else have more questions? [17:21] nope [17:22] nope [17:22] nope [17:22] [VOTE] Confirm Elliot Murphy (statik) as MOTU [17:22] Please vote on: Confirm Elliot Murphy (statik) as MOTU. [17:22] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [17:22] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [17:23] +1 [17:23] +1 received from cjwatson. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [17:23] +1 [17:23] +1 received from stgraber. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [17:23] +1 [17:23] +1 received from geser. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [17:24] +1 [17:24] +1 received from persia. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [17:24] [ENDVOTE] [17:24] Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4 [17:24] statik: Congratulations, and thanks for your persistence and patience. [17:25] [TOPIC] Sugar Package Set definition [17:25] New Topic: Sugar Package Set definition [17:25] [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2010-July/000088.html [17:25] LINK received: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2010-July/000088.html [17:26] thanks everyone [17:26] Basically, the rationale for the package set is explained in that post. [17:27] There is already a team of people interested in packaging Sugar for Ubuntu, ~sugarteam. Right now, I'm the only one in the team who is a MOTU, and at this time we don't have anyone else I'd recommend for adding to the set at this time, but I'm working on mentoring the other team members until we're ready to have more people uploading without sponsorship to SUgar. [17:27] this is simultaneously requesting access to that set for ubuntu-sugar-uploaders, right? [17:28] that team would need to become administered only by the DMB, I believe [17:28] (full delegation is generally a later step) [17:28] lfaraone: How many of the 57 folks in ~sugarteam would you expect to be interested in uploading directly to this package set? [17:28] cjwatson: yes, I was going to transfer it to the DMB after a decision on the set's status, I can do it now if you'd prefer. [17:28] no, later is fine [17:28] I mean post-approval anyway [17:29] persia: 10, based on a quick review of the membership. [17:30] That's certainly enough I'd not want to be processing them all as (potentially overlapping) PPU applicants :) [17:32] so I understand the package list to be: libmoosex-has-sugar-perl python-sugar-0.88 python-sugar-toolkit-0.88 sugar-artwork-0.88 sugar-calculate-activity sugar-chat-activity-0.86 sugar-connect-activity sugar-emulator-0.88 sugar-flipsticks-activity sugar-jigsawpuzzle-activity sugar-logviewer-activity sugar-memorize-activity sugar-pippy-activity sugar-pollbuilder-activity sugar-presence-service-0.88 sugar-read-activity ... [17:32] Anyone have questions about the set of included packages or rationale for a packageset? [17:32] ... sugar-read-activity-0.86 sugar-session-0.88 sugar-sliderpuzzle-activity sugar-terminal-activity sugar-tools-0.88 sugar-turtleart-activity [17:32] which all seem reasonably leaf [17:33] (grep-aptavail -nsPackage -P sugar- -o -FMaintainer debian-olpc-devel) [17:33] cjwatson: not libmoosex-has-sugar-perl, that's just similarly named. [17:33] There's an attachment at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/attachments/20100718/60cf2194/attachment.txt with a list, which includes a few more [17:33] oh right, insufficient regex [17:34] and improving the Maintainer yields a few more [17:34] grep-aptavail -nsPackage -Pr ^sugar- -o -FMaintainer,Original-Maintainer debian-olpc-devel [17:34] cjwatson: I'm also including etoys (which is primarily used as a sugar activity, but is also available standalone) and squeak-vm (VM for etoys, and etoys is it's primary user) [17:34] whence matchbox-window-manager? [17:35] cjwatson: matchbox is included because it was the default window manager for Sugar. As of 0.86 (IIRC) we're using metacity, so this isn't critical. [17:36] I'm not too concerned since it doesn't look like anything else is using it; just checking rationale [17:36] no more questions [17:36] (and running out of time, I have a feeling they're going to throw us out of here soon) [17:36] geser: stgraber ? [17:36] no questions [17:36] looks good, no question [17:37] [VOTE] A Sugar packageset to be defined containing the packages listed at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/attachments/20100718/60cf2194/attachment.txt [17:37] Please vote on: A Sugar packageset to be defined containing the packages listed at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/attachments/20100718/60cf2194/attachment.txt. [17:37] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [17:37] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [17:37] +1 [17:37] +1 received from persia. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [17:37] +1 [17:37] +1 received from cjwatson. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [17:38] +1 [17:38] +1 received from stgraber. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [17:38] +1 [17:38] +1 received from geser. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [17:38] +1 [17:38] +1 received from nixternal. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [17:38] [ENDVOTE] [17:38] Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5 [17:38] :) [17:38] hey nixternal [17:38] hola [17:38] [ACTION] lfarone to transfer ownership of ~ubuntu-sugar-uploaders to the DMB [17:38] ACTION received: lfarone to transfer ownership of ~ubuntu-sugar-uploaders to the DMB [17:39] Cool. I think python-sugar-0.88 python-sugar-toolkit-0.88 were omitted from that list, but I take it that the approval covers everything maintained by debian-olpc, in that list, or matching sugar-*? [17:39] *and/or [17:39] that's what I intended, per your mail [17:40] anyway, approval is by source package [17:41] and those are Source: sugar-base-0.88 and sugar-toolkit-0.88 respectively [17:41] so they're covered [17:41] Great. Ownership transfered. [17:41] persia's laptop has fallen over again [17:41] I suggest that we defer ubuntu-server-dev 'til next week, since this meeting is running very late and that application was only very recent anyway,iirc [17:43] yes, I added it today [17:43] one more thing, nigelb asked that the chair remember to CC news-team (as well as all the others) on new-developer announcements in future; apparently the news-team folks are reluctant to follow other lists [17:43] agreed. My bus is also about to arrive to its destination so I'm not going to be around for much longer. [17:43] cjwatson: do we need to vote/discuss anything about the ubuntu-server-dev team? the mails reads to me that only the team ownership needs to be taken over by the DMB right now [17:44] I think the mail was really requesting that it be given access to the ubuntu-server package set [17:44] first para [17:44] cjwatson: its not a question of reluctance. Mostly manpower issues. We have a rotating staff based on who has time. [17:44] nigelb: reluctance can arise from various other reasons. :-) [17:45] [ACTION] cjwatson to create sugar packageset and associated development group in launchpad. [17:45] ACTION received: cjwatson to create sugar packageset and associated development group in launchpad. [17:45] nigelb: surprised you don't already follow ubuntu-devel-announce, mind [17:45] (you plural) [17:45] #endmeeting [17:45] cjwatson, I follow that list [17:45] Meeting finished at 11:45. [17:45] Sorry :) [17:45] all new developer announcements go to ubuntu-devel-announce, I believe [17:45] as well as others [17:45] just wondering, can team administrators add new members on LP ? IIRC they can but can't add other administrators [17:46] stgraber: I think that's right: I think only owners can add admins [17:46] ok, so should we change lfaraone to only be a member of sugar contributors ? as it'll be the DMB approving new members for now ? [17:46] cjwatson, I'll go back through and look - but I know we are missing reporting on some new members and I am keen to make sure if at all possible we have a back up to ensure we don't overlook highlighting those folks that's all :-) [17:46] cjwatson: you want to take the discussion to the list? [17:48] nigelb: I don't really care that much [17:48] just offering token resistance to CCing yet another list :- [17:48] :-) [17:48] stgraber: yes [17:49] right, got to go [17:49] ah. suggested course of action in that case? [17:51] * persia suspects "got to go" was a hard deadline in this case. [17:52] updated lfaraone membership in sugar uploaders [17:52] Probably best to make a request to the developer-membership-board@l.u.c ML, detaiing formats, frequency, etc. We'll argue about it and end up with some considered response and recommendation. [17:54] ok, got to go too === Claudinux_ is now known as Claudinux [18:18] /part [20:15] hello! [20:17] hi legreffier :) === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-nom [20:37] hi legreffier [20:37] and so the invasion begins [20:39] it's not an invasion yet [20:40] oh no, are the French on an empire kick again? [20:41] mhall119: they're up for reapproval [20:41] and I've warned them no bringing 5K people in here [20:41] * legreffier summons piqure and ubotu-fr [20:41] we'll never get any work done [20:42] i haven't called the entire french community, only some active members [20:43] they helped me to write the approval page [20:53] evening [20:53] hi popey [20:53] aloha folks [20:53] hello everyone [20:54] hi glogiotatidis [20:54] hi there [20:54] hi piti [20:54] heya [20:54] evenink [20:54] Hi people [20:55] o/ [20:57] hello everyone [20:57] o/ [20:57] hi all [20:58] had to run for 15 minutes to catch the train I am in now so I could sit down and brung up the 3G connection :) [20:58] Hey there! [20:59] Seveas: dedication [20:59] popey, no, dinner [20:59] Seveas: free exercise, stop complaining [20:59] work dinner, political issue :() [21:00] #startmeeting [21:00] Meeting started at 15:00. The chair is czajkowski. [21:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [21:00] Aloha folks [21:00] hi czajkowski [21:00] hey hey [21:00] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda [21:00] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda [21:00] what a packed schedule! [21:00] Tonights agenda will be in running order of what is on the agenda linked above [21:00] we need to keep it nice and tight tonight! [21:01] indeed [21:01] so let's start ! [21:01] itnet7: huats popey leogg all ready [21:01] sure [21:01] yes'm [21:01] [topic] Romanian Re Approval [21:01] New Topic: Romanian Re Approval [21:01] miss paultag [21:01] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RomanianTeam/ApprovalApplication [21:01] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RomanianTeam/ApprovalApplication [21:02] anyone here for the Romanian LoCo ? [21:02] anyone here from Romania!? [21:02] yes, we are [21:02] unfortunatelly, our leader, AdiRoiban, seems to be catch elswere [21:03] marianvasile: anyone else where with you ? [21:03] sorry im latte [21:04] I saw DoruHush to be present as well [21:04] marianvasile: are you able to answer question on the re approval ? [21:04] I have to say that adi wasn't sure he could attend onight, and they agreed to be here tonight [21:04] ok [21:04] [action] LoCo council to take Romanian Application to email [21:04] ACTION received: LoCo council to take Romanian Application to email [21:05] [topic] LithuanianTeam Re approval [21:05] New Topic: LithuanianTeam Re approval [21:05] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LithuanianTeam/ReApprovalApplication [21:05] Lithuanina team leader is here. [21:05] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LithuanianTeam/ReApprovalApplication [21:05] sirex`: hey there! welcome [21:05] Hi. [21:06] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LithuanianTeam [21:06] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LithuanianTeam [21:06] sirex`: so care to tell us about your team [21:06] Well in these two years we where active. [21:07] Some key details I wrote to re-approval application. [21:07] I notice you've not had any meetings in 2010, why is this? [21:08] you had up till now [21:08] Lithuaniant LoCo is growing and we plant to grow more in future. [21:08]