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webPragmatistmy ftp client must be setting the chmod?00:00
qman__drwxrwsr-x  15 ryan smbusers 4.0K 2010-07-16 21:17 Tools00:00
qman__that's what it should look like00:00
webPragmatistyea00:00
webPragmatistmy ftp app is setting the permission implictly00:00
webPragmatiston directories atleast00:01
webPragmatistfiles it does okay00:01
qman__the other option, and this is how I found that bit in the mount manual00:01
qman__is to mount your filesystem with the grpid option00:01
webPragmatistis implicitly set it  with moun00:01
qman__that makes it behave like setgid is set00:01
webPragmatistdoes it force it to do be that gid?00:02
webPragmatistinstead of this weird crap where it the user can make it whatever gid00:02
qman__all it does is cause new files that are created to inherit the group ID from the parent directory, instead of the group-owner of the process that creates it00:02
webPragmatisthrm00:02
qman__it does not affect the user's ability to change the group-owner00:02
webPragmatistfallacies of using sshd for ftp or something?00:03
qman__not at all00:03
qman__ftp would have this same problem in the same scenario00:04
webPragmatisthrm00:04
qman__it's a simple system permissions and data structure problem00:04
qman__when you give multiple users write access and the ability to change permissions, you will run into this stuff00:05
webPragmatistwell with ftp could you prevent a user from changing permissions?00:05
qman__not that I'm aware of, unless it was a special option in a particular ftpd00:05
qman__let me check if there's a setting for that00:06
webPragmatistwell i don't really care to have an ftpd tbh00:06
qman__I wouldn't00:07
qman__doesn't look like anything in chattr for that00:07
qman__so you'd have to use apparmor or selinux or something00:08
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dominicdinadaAnybody hear anything about any 3rd party module support from webmin yet ?01:14
qman__I have a file with a list of directories, which contains unescaped symbols and spaces01:15
qman__I need to process this with a for loop, so I need to escape them01:16
qman__is there an easy way to do that to the entire file?01:16
qman__nevermind that, I found a different way to approach the problem01:20
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webPragmatisttorrent01:47
webPragmatistgrr01:47
ader10I can't install Ubu Server from a USB flash drive. I get a notification saying that the CD-ROM can't be detected (even with "--cdrom-detect/try-usb=true") Please help me install it from the USB flash drive.02:03
ader10Also, what is up with 10.04's documentation being out-of-date? https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04%20LTS/installation-guide/ is missing and the samba file server installation guide is wrong02:05
qman__ader10, I believe the link you're looking for is https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/index.html02:15
ader10the link on https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/installation.html is broken, then02:16
ader10Also EM64T is called Intel 64 now02:16
qman__Intel changes the name of that about once every six months02:17
ader10I can't find anything in that guide to help me insall from a flash drive02:17
ader10(I am pretty sure that Intel 64 is the last time they'll change it)02:18
ader10The actual error text is "There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make sure it is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should chek the integrity of your CD-ROM. Failed to copy file from CD-ROM. Retry?"02:22
ader10If you search for the first 2 sentences exactly on google you'll see that nobody has had this problem solved02:26
ader10I can't take Ubuntu Server Edition seriously if nobody bothers to fix the installer02:27
DrPoOhas anybody installed pptpd on 10.04?02:42
DrPoOhas anybody setup vpn capabilities with 10.04?02:48
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twbI need the default umask for users to be 077.  If I just tell pam-auth-update to edit common-session and set it explicitly, that'll probably affect root and system users, too, and might cause bad juju.04:43
twbAnybody know the "right" way to tell pam_umask(8) to affect only users ≥1000 ?04:44
twbI'll just try turning it on for all users and see how badly it breaks things04:52
EvilTrekhow do I remove a single rule from IPtables?05:59
twb-D05:59
EvilTrek-D will remove the single rule?05:59
twbBut generally you ought to use iptables-restore and write your rulesets with an editor, since iptables-restore is atomic at the table level.06:00
EvilTrekwell i'm kind of just starting to use iptables, so I havent reached that point yet atm o.o06:01
EvilTrekbear with me if i ask stupid iptables questions xD06:01
twb#netfilter06:04
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Roxyhart0hi there ...i need to edit the file rules-save for iptables and then run it as iptables, somebody know how to do that, as i edit it but iptables -S doesn load those changes07:46
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twbIs there a way to change plymouth's background colour (from purple to black) without messing around creating a whole new "theme"?07:59
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twbAnswer: yes08:31
twb>>/lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/*.script echo 'Window.SetBackgroundTopColor (0.00, 0.00, 0.00); Window.SetBackgroundBottomColor (0.00, 0.00, 0.00);'08:31
twbEr, not quite.  But editing the existing calls to those functions suffices.08:39
|eagles0513875|hey guys i have a question about squid and squidguard.08:54
|eagles0513875|i have a single nic setup on my server would you guys recommend a 2 nic setup. one nic on the dmz the other nic on the internal network?08:56
twb|eagles0513875|: it doesn't make a difference09:02
twbTwo NICs is slightly more convenient to code for.09:03
|eagles0513875|ok it has a built in nic and i dont mind using it09:03
|eagles0513875|twb: ill give it a shot but atm cant get it going09:03
|eagles0513875|but thanks for the info :)09:03
twbYou can always use trunking to run several logical NICs over a single physical NIC, assuming you're running Ubuntu on your router09:04
|eagles0513875|O_O09:04
|eagles0513875|no im not twb im running belkin proprietary software09:05
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uvirtbotNew bug: #605721 in tgt (universe) "tgtd target will not start unless it's configured with "allow-in-use yes"" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60572110:12
larsemilanyone used a dell powervault 660f?10:29
twblarsemil: what's the real question?10:29
larsemiltwb: i might get one for cheap. so i am looking for opinions on it.10:30
larsemilso i rephrase: does anyone have any pros/cons on a powervault 660f? i want to know allt your experiences when coming to it10:30
twbhardware is hardawre10:33
larsemiland there is good and bad hardware. :)10:33
twbAs long as there are drivers in the default kernel, I don't care about it10:33
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uvirtbotNew bug: #607646 in php5 (main) "Segmentation fault in PHP5 with pgsql module" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60764610:57
silentwhisperhi10:57
silentwhispermy server is always access denied10:57
silentwhisperanyone can help me10:57
silentwhisperplease10:58
Jeeves_silentwhisper: ssst!10:59
Jeeves_</bad joke>10:59
Jeeves_silentwhisper: Define 'my server'. Which service on the server gives access denied?10:59
Jeeves_http/smtp/ssh?11:00
silentwhisperhttp11:00
Jeeves_as which user is your webserver running?11:01
silentwhisperall of my files are root:root11:02
silentwhisperhow to determine that?11:02
silentwhispermore info11:02
silentwhispermy server ip is 192.168.254.1011:03
twbss -ap | grep http11:03
silentwhisperrouter ip 192.168.254.25411:03
Jeeves_silentwhisper: can you pastebin an 'ls -al' from the directory you're trying to see?11:03
silentwhisperthanks11:04
silentwhisper"/var/www"11:05
silentwhisperi tried chmod 644 and 755 as well but no luck11:05
Jeeves_12:03 < Jeeves_> silentwhisper: can you pastebin an 'ls -al' from the directory you're trying to see?11:06
Jeeves_!pastebin?11:06
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:06
Jeeves_!pastebin11:06
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:06
Jeeves_Just go into /var/www and type 'ls -al'11:06
Jeeves_copy/paste all the output into the pastebin11:06
silentwhisperwhat is pastebin11:07
silentwhisperis it notepad?11:07
twbsilentwhisper: plonk11:07
Jeeves_silentwhisper: Did you see the message from ubottu ?11:08
silentwhisperplease bear with be im totally noob11:08
Jeeves_silentwhisper: even more important to read everything that comes along11:08
Jeeves_I asked ubottu to tell you about pastbin11:08
Jeeves_Read those lines, read my lines, copy/paste! :)11:08
silentwhisperah let me check on it its my first time to join here11:09
Jeeves_That's ok :)11:10
Jeeves_I'm not in a hurry :)11:10
silentwhisperare you always here?11:11
Jeeves_Yes, just about.11:12
Jeeves_I have no life11:12
Jeeves_(and no customers ;))11:12
silentwhisperi really need alot of help im just starting to learn ubuntu11:14
Jeeves_My hourly rate is 75 euro's11:14
Jeeves_(That's a joke, obviously ;))11:15
\shJeeves_: that's cheap ;)11:16
Jeeves_\sh: I know. I'm just starting. So I can use every Unique Selling Point :P11:17
Jeeves_\sh: So, are you hiring? :P11:18
larsemilJeeves_: what would i hire you for?11:18
Jeeves_Ah, you're too far away. In a country where I never want to be in. :)11:19
twb.us?11:19
Jeeves_twb: Correct :)11:19
Jeeves_larsemil: Clue on Ubuntu, Internet, stuff11:19
twbmaybe after china buys them out11:19
Jeeves_twb: They allready did. .Us just doesn't know yet :)11:20
larsemilJeeves_: i do the same. starting for real during autumn.11:20
\shJeeves_: sysadmin? fai experience? puppet experience? not windows hating? not closed source hating? datacenter experience? if so, send a CV to me...working country will be germany then :)11:20
Jeeves_larsemil: Cool.11:20
Jeeves_\sh: I'm pretty close to the german border. But germany is kinda big :)11:21
\shJeeves_: karlsruhe, baden-wuertemberg :)11:21
binBASH:)11:21
twbI don't hate windows -- just so long as I don't have to use or support it ;-P11:22
* binBASH will be in KA tomorrow ;)11:22
Jeeves_\sh: Hmm. That's a four hour drive.11:22
Jeeves_My wife won't like that :P11:22
* Jeeves_ agrees with twb :)11:22
\shJeeves_: you can rent nice houses here :) or buy one :)11:22
larsemili would move for a decent job11:23
\shbinBASH: where? 1&1 ;)11:23
Jeeves_Although, I must say. I've got no issues with Windows 7 yet.11:23
twbHere we basically give the windows bits to our interns, because they're the ones who have used windows most recently11:23
binBASH\sh: A5 :D11:23
binBASHI will drive from Zurich to Ludwigshafen11:23
Jeeves_\sh: Have you ever heard the language you guys are speaking? It's very difficult for the dutch to accept that they speak that on a daily base :)11:23
binBASHthrough Karlsruhe :D11:23
Jeeves_binBASH: You're in zurich?11:24
binBASHJeeves_: Yup11:24
binBASHI worked in Ettlingen before :D11:24
Jeeves_I was in .ch two weeks ago. In Steffisburg.11:24
Jeeves_I've been to Zurich last year. Someone I know works at Google there.11:24
\shJeeves_: english :)11:25
Jeeves_\sh: Liar! :)11:25
binBASHJeeves_: Our office is nearby google office ;)11:25
silentwhisperi hope i could have an IT job11:25
\shJeeves_: no...we are speaking english then...11:25
twbIn .ch do you have to carry a US-104 keyboard with you everywhere just so you don't go insane trying to hack on servers with insane localized keyboards?11:25
Jeeves_\sh: http://bit.ly/bLTf2s11:26
Jeeves_\sh: Yes, but if you leave the office?11:26
RudyValenciaman I'm trying to find a better job11:26
binBASHtwb: Well, I brought my German Keyboard to Zurich when I moved there :D11:26
\shJeeves_: also english...at least me :) I'm speaking mostly in english even with my wife :)11:26
\shJeeves_: but yes, you would have to relocate ;)11:27
twbEnglish is the lingua franca, man11:27
binBASHAnyways, I'm typing blind. Don't need it really11:27
twbI bet even somali slave traders speak english11:27
silentwhisperah ubuntu pastebin got it sir11:27
Jeeves_Btw: Haven't done anything with puppet yet11:27
Jeeves_silentwhisper: Good, link?11:27
twbbinBASH: yeah, but double-bucky-cokebottle to enter a left brace is aggravating11:27
Jeeves_I have used cfengine, though11:27
binBASHtwb, I switched server console to German layout. :)11:28
twbJeeves_: puppet is basically cfengine with different annoyances11:28
binBASHI'm the only one doing system admin onsite.11:28
Jeeves_twb: More or less annoyances? :)11:29
twbI haven't used cfengine enough to say11:29
binBASHI tried puppet for config management. But I switched now to kokki. It's chef like tool but you can code in python ;)11:29
twbbut forcing me to install ruby is annoying, and they always want me to deploy the latest alpha snapshot of puppet11:30
binBASHdon't want to learn ruby really11:30
twbAnd puppet's wire protocol lacks ANY kind of version negotiation11:30
twbbinBASH: yeah, well, puppet "helpfully" uses a DSL11:30
binBASHtwb: Most people I know use chef or fabric to manage their servers11:31
Jeeves_Ok, so cfengine is the way to go than :P11:31
binBASHI don't know someone who uses puppet actually11:31
twbchef is just a minor NIH of puppet11:32
twb(AFAICT)11:32
twbYou still have to use ruby on the nodes, at least11:32
binBASHyup11:32
binBASHthat's why I'm using kokki. ;)11:32
binBASHpython is already installed on the nodes.....11:33
larsemildo i need any special hardware to connect to a fibre channel san or does it use ethernet?11:33
twbWell, I suppose yaml is at least well-defined11:35
twb(I hadn't heard of kokki before.)11:35
binBASHtwb: Yeah, I found it when I googled for python config management tools ;)11:36
silentwhispertoo bad my internet connection is very slow11:37
silentwhispertried paste11:37
silentwhisperthen i will give the link11:37
silentwhispercorrect?11:37
binBASHtwb: http://github.com/samuel/kokki-cookbooks11:38
binBASHsome example recipes ;)11:38
binBASHsilentwhisper: yup11:39
twbWell, bugger.11:39
twbPassword resetting works with 8.04 desktops, but not 10.04 desktops.11:39
twb(Using LDAP with the ppolicy overlay.)11:40
twbldap.conf is the same on both...11:41
silentwhispersample12:01
silentwhisperhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/466407/12:01
silentwhisperis it correct?12:01
remix_tjyes12:01
twbOK, the problem is something to do with pam_unix being first and pam_ldap being second in lucid12:13
Jeeves_That's stupid12:17
twbYes12:17
twbYes it is.12:17
Jeeves_(as are more things in Lucid)12:17
twbClarification: I'm using libpam-ldap and libnss-ldap, with OpenLDAP on both ends, using the ppolicy overlay12:17
Jeeves_Oh wait. Did I say that out loud? L:)12:17
ewookJeeves_: no, not really :p12:17
twbI should also note for the record that nis.schema is JUST SO WRONG, and libpam_ldap's internals are pretty ugly (if reasonably clear).12:18
Jeeves_Imho, Hardy is still the best Ubuntu around.12:19
Jeeves_It's just too old12:19
twbHey, waitaminute...12:19
twbWhy isn't slapd enforcing non-crap passwords?12:19
Jeeves_And, IMHO, Canonical focusses on the Cloud far too much12:19
twbIt's doing so on the hardy desktops...12:19
Jeeves_Does anyone know if openstreetmaps.org has an Google-maps-like API for pointing out where people are?12:20
twbI wonder if that bullshit where ubuntu moved the ldap configuration INSIDE THE LDAP DATABASE is causing this issue.12:20
* twb digs out a recent serverguide12:20
binBASHI'll go a bit swimming, got holidays, cya around ;)12:21
Jeeves_binBASH: See ya12:21
WampyreHello. How can I test communication between my server and a GSM modem connected to ttyS0?13:10
Jeeves_Wampyre: apt-get install minicom13:10
WampyreThanks Jeeves_, done.  Now googling for usage :)13:11
Jeeves_:)13:12
ajdkflahow do I reinstall in apt13:18
ajdkflaapt-get13:18
ajdkflareinstall a package13:18
ajdkflaI installed lvm2 and my wifi cutout in the middle of the install13:18
ajdkflaand I wasn't using screen!13:19
Roxyhart0hi there, somebody know what is the protocol 17 and 6?13:19
joschiajdkfla: apt-get install --reinstall [...]13:19
joschiajdkfla: or in your case probably just `apt-get install -f`13:19
pmatulisRoxyhart0: udp and tcp respectively13:19
ajdkflaajdkfla: apt-get install --reinstall <package> ?13:20
Jeeves_Speaking of cfengine and puppet13:20
Jeeves_http://www.cfengine.org/cftimes/articles/0000000040.html13:20
ajdkflasorry freaking out lvm2 seems to have screewed my network13:20
joschiRoxyhart0: also taking a look into /etc/protocols might help ;)13:20
Roxyhart0thanks13:20
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pmatulisRoxyhart0: next time, 'grep 17 /etc/protocols'  and so on13:23
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Roxyhart0Hi there, im looking for a tool to block P2P, somebody have any recomendation? id see 17 filter and ipp2p but not sure which is good or if there is another  even better13:33
pmatulisRoxyhart0: use netfilter/iptables (linux built-in firewall) - use ufw to configure13:34
Roxyhart0yes, both tools also use iptables...im looking for some doc how to do just with iptables13:36
sabgentonis there a way to share a file quickly with out using samba?13:36
sabgentonssh?13:36
sabgentonI want to  share an Iso over the network and mount on  another machine13:36
Roxyhart0scp?13:36
Roxyhart0to share or just copy?13:37
sabgentonRoxyhart0: can I mount somehow?13:37
sabgentonshare13:37
joschisabgenton: if the other machine has a FUSE implementation, you could use sshfs13:37
sabgentonones karmic ones lucid13:38
sabgentonsudo apt-get install sshfs13:38
sabgenton?13:38
joschisabgenton: yes13:39
sabgentonquick howto?13:39
sabgentonmount13:39
pmatulissabgenton: http://tinyurl.com/3yen5w413:40
joschisabgenton: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/FUSE/sshfs13:41
joschi*sigh* no initiative from anyone these days...13:41
joschisabgenton: meh, sorry. it's german13:41
joschimeant to post https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS13:41
sabgentonthanks13:42
Roxyhart0other question...any good proxy server?13:44
joschiRoxyhart0: for which protocol?13:46
Roxyhart0most important p2p, irc, ssh, htmp13:47
Roxyhart0html13:48
joschiRoxyhart0: so you're looking for a SOCKS proxy13:49
joschitake a look at dante13:49
Roxyhart0thanks joschi13:50
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joschihow can I tell d-i or more precisely partman that I want to have the remaining free space of a hard drive (after the partitions have been created) in a LVM volume group?14:18
joschie.g. create a partition with 10G in the volume group and have the rest unassigned to any LV, but assigned to the volume group14:18
DrPoOI want to check on which device a particular directory is mounted to... how can I do this?15:11
ehazlettgreetings all... i'm trying to set quota's on an NFS mounted dir -- is that possible?15:19
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uvirtbotNew bug: #607648 in freeradius (main) "package freeradius-mysql (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60764815:32
cemchi. I have a 10.04 LTSP install. I want my thin clients to run only chrome at boot, with autologin, no other stuff (no panels, no possibility to run other stuff), is it doable? any howto on it (especially the autologin+bare minimum part) ?15:52
silentwhisperwhere is the link for pasting image?15:54
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uvirtbotNew bug: #607835 in drbd8 (main) "New Upstream Release DRBD 8.3.8.1" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60783516:42
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goldinsis there a way I can mirror a filesystem on two servers over the network?17:27
jpdsgoldins: DRDB?17:28
NarbeHi got No route to host when i want to send mail. (Postfix -  Mail agent: squirrelmail)17:28
jpdsgoldins: http://www.drbd.org/17:28
goldinshmm17:28
goldinsthanks17:28
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NarbeHi got No route to host when i want to send mail. (Postfix -  Mail agent: squirrelmail)17:31
NarbeHanyone please?17:32
Mithosany reason when I do this: iptables -I INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT17:33
Mithosi get this: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name17:33
Mithoson an Ubuntu server image btw17:33
Mithoser server*17:33
NarbeHanyone please help me in postfix17:39
Mithoswhere can the kernel's config files be on the drive?17:41
pmatulisMithos: in the /boot directory17:41
Mithosah its hiding xD17:41
Mithoser...17:41
Mithosor its hiding elsewhere...17:43
pmatulisMithos: hiding?17:43
* Mithos kicks his system17:43
matt_keysI have a fresh install of server 10.04 amd64. on install i only selected vm host and ssh. virt-manager, virt-viewer, xterm, ubuntu-vm-builder are custom additions. i changed networking to bridge eth0 and set the template to use br0 by default. when attempting to create a vm I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/27vxhNHr17:45
matt_keysanybody ever seen that one?17:45
EvilTrekpmatulis:  yeah its hiding somewhere, but its not in /boot17:45
EvilTrekpmatulis:  perhaps because its a VPS?17:46
EvilTreko.o17:46
jpdsEvilTrek: Xen?17:47
EvilTrekjpds:  no openvz17:48
pmatulismatt_keys: how did you create the vm?17:48
EvilTrekjpds:  the datacenter the VPS is at didnt have zen17:48
EvilTreker xen*17:48
jpdsEvilTrek: Isn't the kernel managed by the host with that?17:48
EvilTrekjpds:  indeed i'm trying to ping the host now xP17:48
matt_keysUnable to complete install '<class 'libvirt.libvirtError'> operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info chardev'17:48
pmatulismatt_keys: how did you create the vm?17:48
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matt_keyspmatulis: through the gui17:49
matt_keyspmatulis: it's a win08 x64, 4gb ram, 40gb disk. i selected windows, windows 2008 from the type drop-down17:49
matt_keysdoes it if i allocate all at once or uncheck for thin provisioning17:50
NarbeHi got No route to host when i want to send mail. (Postfix -  Mail agent: squirrelmail)17:55
pmatulismatt_keys: is your host 64 bit?17:56
matt_keyspmatulis: yes17:56
matt_keysLinux libvirt01 2.6.32-23-server #37-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 11 09:11:11 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:56
pmatulismatt_keys: do other guests install ok?17:57
matt_keyspmatulis: haven't tried any others yet, this was the first one :(17:57
pmatulismatt_keys: please try17:57
matt_keyswill do, brb.17:57
matt_keysjust checked and the disk was created both times in /var/lib/libvirt/images, just didn't go past that17:58
matt_keyspmatulis: creating a ubuntu 10.04 i386 server vm, 20gb disk, 512mb ram17:59
matt_keyspmatulis: btw these are on dell poweredge 1855 blades, so I have 9 more if I need to test... they're all identical setups18:00
matt_keyspmatulis: ubuntu vm seems to have installed/started ok18:05
matt_keysdigging for another win32 iso18:05
matt_keyswin7 64 would be a good test, right?18:07
pmatulismatt_keys: it's another test, yes18:08
matt_keyswin7 64bit started as well18:08
matt_keyssomething specific with server 2008 64bit?18:08
pmatulismatt_keys: some drivers may need to be digitally signed18:10
matt_keyspmatulis: never makes it that far... it goes to create the domain and crashes there before the vm has a chance to start. win7 64bit just gave me the BSOD18:11
pmatulismatt_keys: dunno18:11
matt_keysBSOD error msg was "STOP: 0x0000001E (0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000)"18:13
matt_keyspmatulis: filed a bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/60788418:37
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 607884 in libvirt "10.04 amd64 libvirt+qemu fails to install Win Server 08 x64 or Win7 x64" [Undecided,New]18:37
matt_keysthanks for your help18:37
pmatulismatt_keys: you're welcome18:38
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talcitehey guys, the UUID in the kernel bootline should match the UUID of the root partition correct?19:00
Jordan_Utalcite: Yes.19:00
talciteJordan_U: is there any reason why a UUID of a softraid array would change suddenly?19:01
Jordan_Utalcite: Not that I know of, but I don't do much with RAID.19:01
talciteJordan_U: hmm that's ok. Thanks. I'll just change it manually to match. It's really weird that it happened though19:02
Jordan_Utalcite: update-grub should update your grub.cfg to match the new value.19:02
talciteJordan_U: hmm, I'm stuck in an initramfs shell. I don't think I have access to /boot actually19:03
talciteor is it just not automatically mounted?19:03
talciteWas grub's menu.lst removed in 10.04? I'd like to verify that the kernel options on boot are using the correct UUID19:25
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qman__talcite, 10.04 uses grub2 by default, which does not have a menu.lst20:45
Italian_Plumberwasn't that first considered a "bug" tha'ts going to be "fixed" in 10.04.1?20:47
qman__what, exactly?20:47
qman__grub2's configuration structure is completely different from the old grub20:48
Italian_Plumbermaybe I'm remembering something wrong20:49
qman__the bits you're supposed to change have moved to /etc20:49
pmatulistalcite: cat /proc/cmdline20:53
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webPragmatistdo i have to do anything after I add a file to /etc/logrotate.d22:29
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talciteHmm ok I see. I've found the /etc/ bits now.22:57
talciteIt's still weird though. cat /proc/cmdline gives a different UUID than from the UUID of my root partition22:58
Jordan_Utalcite: If you boot holding shift you can get the grub menu and temporarily change the menu entry to boot, then "sudo update-grub" should fix things permanently.22:59
talcitewell, I should clarify, /proc/cmdline gives a different UUID from the one that mdadm -D /dev/md0 reports22:59
talcitehmm23:00
talciteare they supposed to be different ones?23:00
talciteJordan_U: yup, I ran the update-grub command, but it didn't seem to change anything. The UUIDs reported by /proc/cmdline and mdadm are still different23:01
Jordan_Utalcite: cat /proc/cmdline prints the kernel parameters that were passed to the kernel when you booted.23:02
talciteah, so I'll need to reboot23:02
Jordan_Utalcite: To check the UUID that grub will pass next boot look in /boot/grub/grub.cfg23:02
talciteah. Thanks. I've never used grub2 before23:03
Jordan_Uluis_lopez: You're welcome.23:03
pittstainsanyone know how to update the output of the df command?  i deleted some large files but i'm getting the same output23:09
pittstainsgaaaaaaaaaaaaah23:12
pittstainstoo late23:12
pittstainsgiving me output for every directory23:12
pittstainscan't stop it with control C23:13
pittstainswrong window... sorry!  still would like help with the df question though23:13
qman__df generates fresh output each time you run it23:14
qman__if the information is wrong, it's more likely that your filesystem is reporting incorrect information, or that you didn't actually delete said files23:15
qman__were they hard-linked elsewhere?23:15
pittstainsqman: thanks23:16
pittstainsi don't believe they were hard linked anywhere else23:16
pittstainsthey were apache log files23:16
qman__yeah, then probably not23:16
qman__but they should also not be that big23:16
pittstainsit was 10GB -- my predecessor put them in a non-standard location, so logrotate never touched them23:17
pittstainsqman__: i just used the rm command... i know that doesn't delete them in a non-recoverable way, but shouldn't it free up the space?23:19
qman__generally, it does delete them in a non-recoverable way23:19
qman__unless you have an undelete system configured23:19
pittstainsno undelete system configured... i mean unrecoverable in the way the shred makes files unrecoverable23:20
pittstains*in the way that shred23:20
qman__rm simply unlinks them23:20
qman__which leaves the data free to be overwritten23:20
qman__unless it's linked elsewhere23:21
qman__it would show up as free space23:21
qman__if it really is a filesystem inconsistency, fsck will fix it23:23
pittstainsgood suggestion... thanks23:27
LowValueTargetmysql wont start on my 10.04 box23:39
LowValueTargetany ideas23:39
binBASHcheck error log in /var/log/mysql/23:40
LowValueTargetbinBASH: nothin in there23:43
binBASHcheck diskspace23:43
binBASHit should contain something if you start mysql ;)23:44
LowValueTargetnoting in any log23:44
binBASHagain check diskspace if logs are empty23:45
yabbook im trying to install ubuntu server on a dell power edge 6450 but when i try the server CD it says it cant install the kernel modules for the architecture23:51
yabboits a quad P4 700 mhz system so it should install23:51
yabboor do i need to go out and download server 7.10 or something23:54
FunnyLookinHatIs there any way to save the response of a request i issue via TELNET to a file?  I.e. I want to try to send a custom request to a server with HTTP and save the response file23:55
jpdsyabbo: 7.10 is dead.23:55
yabboi know but 10.04 wont install23:55
jpdsWell, noone's going to help on using an unsupported release. ;-)23:56
yabbodo > file.txt at the end of the command and it will log it to the file23:56
yabbowell then can you help me get 10.04 working lol23:56
LowValueTargetit was apparmor if anyone cares23:56
jpdsyabbo: dmesg | tail in a pastebin would be useful to.23:58
pittstainsqman__: so, i ran fsck -ns /dev/foo (still mounted), and i get a list of errors... wondering if there's a way to fix this that is safe, easy, and reliable...23:58
pittstainsif i reboot later, will it just run the check on boot and do the right thing?23:58

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