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RAOFSarvatt: You here, dude?  Have you seen terrible performance on nvidia *and* nouveau recently?  Like really horrible cairo rendering speed and slowish text rendering?11:48
Vi0L0hi, which xserver version will 10.10 use? :)12:58
Vi0L0@ www i can see that 10.10 is now using xserver 1.8, but maybe there are chances for xserver 1.9? :)12:58
ginggshi - I'm looking for someone to open the lucid task on the following bug please?14:37
ginggshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/55341514:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 553415 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "mouse trapped in box for Open Motif (affects: 24) (dups: 3) (heat: 107)" [Undecided,Fix released]14:37
jcristauwhy am i not surprised how much of a mess that bug is..14:42
jcristauRAOF: ginggs was asking about bug 553415 for lucid, which apparently needs e7154e9375e6b624db01a787d9ec6c8cedc2eb81 from 1.7.6.901 cherry-picked15:02
ubot4Launchpad bug 553415 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "mouse trapped in box for Open Motif (affects: 24) (dups: 3) (heat: 107)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55341515:02
RAOFjcristau: Thanks.15:04
RAOFHm.  I think it actually wants 1c612acca8568fcdf9761d23f112adaf4d496f1b to be cherry-picked, as the original patch got reverted.15:08
jcristaue7154e9375e6b624db01a787d9ec6c8cedc2eb81 is 1.7-branch's cherry-pick of 1c612acca8568fcdf9761d23f112adaf4d496f1b :)15:09
RAOFAah, ok.15:10
ginggsI have another request too, if I may: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/58925015:19
ubot4Launchpad bug 589250 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Unable to resolve function glX... (affects: 2) (heat: 86)" [Undecided,New]15:19
ginggsrelating to the removal of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 in lucid15:19
jcristauthat's not a request..15:20
ginggsI work at a university and spend many hours trying to get commercial packages to work in Ubuntu15:20
jcristauthat's a bug in the software you're using15:21
ginggswell my request is how to proceed with this15:21
RAOFYou can work around it by providing that symlink.15:21
RAOFWe can't provide that symlink without breaking other stuff.15:23
ginggsyes, i realize the problem is the path is hard-coded in the application, but these are the kind of vendors whose standard answer is use RHEL or SLED or don't talk to us.15:24
ginggsyou have answered my question, thanks15:24
RAOFIt will be safe for you to add that symlink.15:25
ginggsthanks RAOF and jcristau, i'm out of here16:16
SarvattRAOF: nope, what kind of environment are you seeing it on? lucid+nouveau+xorg-edgers is fine16:31
ricotzRAOF, Sarvatt, i think i can confirm this cairo slowness using docky with maverick+nouveau+xorg-edgers16:37
Sarvatthow about without docky and without compositing?16:41
Sarvattoh i have metacity compositing on there16:42
ricotzSarvatt, what are you using to test the cairo "speed"? I just notice some bumpy transitions in docky16:45
Sarvatteveryday use16:45
Sarvattmy wife uses that laptop all the time and i'm always screwing with it, would have noticed it slow down16:46
ricotzit isnt noticable in everyday use for me16:47
ricotzinkscape seems to suffer a lot16:47
SarvattRAOF: what's slow?16:48
Sarvatti was assuming he meant firefox and gtk stuff16:49
ricotzSarvatt, perhaps he meant gnome-do16:50
ricotzi can confirm DO it is very slow16:51
seb128ricotz, hey16:51
seb128ricotz, didn't you have gnome-shell changes in your ppa to workaround libmozjs issues?16:52
seb128ricotz, I've diffed the rules with maverick but it seems it has no workaround16:52
ricotzseb128, hi, havent i gave you the patch in a pastebin16:53
ricotzseb128, the patch is included in the tarball to workarround the need of an autoreconf16:53
seb128ricotz, right, but I was busy and I didn't note it, and I'm wondering how it built in your ppa without those changes16:53
seb128ricotz, oh ok16:54
seb128I though it was a debian/rules change16:54
seb128thanks16:54
ricotzseb128, have you looked into gdkpixbuf2.0 and gtk+3.0 packaging?16:55
seb128sort of16:56
ricotzok16:56
ricotzseb128, what version of g-s do you want to package?16:58
ricotzseb128, only 2.31.4 will work, 2.31.5 needs gtk3 and mutter compiled against gtk316:59
RAOFSarvatt: Summon gnome-do, type anything.  Watch the animation take > 5 seconds before Do is responsive again.17:08
RAOFSarvatt: Also, text rendering in gnome-terminal.17:08
seb128ricotz, what debian has, it's a direct sync17:09
RAOFSarvatt: maverick / {xorg-edgers,main archive} / 9300 GS17:09
seb128ricotz, gdk-pixbuf17:09
seb128ricotz, it's in the pkg-gnome svn17:10
seb128work in progress though17:10
seb128it needs extra changes17:10
RAOFSarvatt: Aaaaand it's time for beer.  Sorry!17:10
ricotzseb128, can you give me a direct link to this gdk-pixbuf svn?17:11
seb128robert_ancell is working on update gtk now17:11
Sarvattgnome-terminal is fine here, sounds like gnome-do is doing something bad with cairo17:11
seb128ricotz, http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org/svn.html17:11
ricotzseb128, thanks17:12
seb128ricotz, it's in desktop, experimental, gdk-pixbuf17:12
Sarvattwell does it only happen with nvidia machines + gnome-do?17:12
seb128http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/gdk-pixbuf/17:12
seb128ricotz, ^17:12
* Sarvatt doesn't use it17:12
ricotzSarvatt, might be the case, so it could be a nouveau/mesa problem17:13
ricotzseb128, thanks, i will have a look17:13
Sarvattmetacity compositing would rule out mesa at least, i can't steal the machine from the wife at the moment to test it :)17:14
Sarvatttrying it out on intel now, lessee17:16
ricotzSarvatt, ok17:16
Sarvattinstant on intel+edgers+maverick17:16
Sarvattany of you guys gotten a profile of it?17:17
Sarvattgo figure oprofile is busted because of binutils yet again :)17:29
Sarvattit is spending most of its time in cairo though17:30
Sarvattcrap updated that machine to the ia32-libs in edgers, is that still broken with flash?18:47
ricotzSarvatt, they should work 18:49
ricotzare you going to update the mesa packaging to provide this "dri-experimental" package?18:50
Sarvattah ok, wife's gonna complain otherwise :) btw if you want a sysprof that works to see where its spending its time on nouveau i've got one in here - https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/ppa18:50
Sarvattone day.. probably not until 7.9 branches18:50
ricotzSarvatt, flash stuff is working here without problems, didnt hear any comlains lately :P18:51
ricotzcomplains*18:52
ricotzok18:52
Sarvattyeah it was lucid that had the problem though, i've got that machine on lucid so she doesn't have to go through the plymouth hell we're going through again because that put her off ubuntu last time :)18:52
ricotzok, so you might want to test it while you already installed it ;)18:53
Sarvattyay i love when 003_recognize_glibc_2.3.2_locale_names.diff in libx11 needs refreshing :)19:39
Sarvattany specific gnome-do plugins that you guys are using over stock to make it slow maybe?19:39
jcristauSarvatt: if somebody upstreams that patch i'll owe him a lot of beer19:41
Sarvattdid some of it already get upstream? it seems a lot smaller than it used to be19:43
Sarvattluckily it was just the cvs tag purge, just had to remove 2 lines and adjust the first hunk20:01
Sarvattricotz: any specific gnome-do plugins that you guys are using over stock to make it slow maybe?20:01
ricotzSarvatt, it is not related to any plugin, you can literally see the drawing of the svg icons20:47

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