[06:08] <troy_s> ScottL: Shut up and blog more.
[06:08] <troy_s> ;)
[09:00] <astraljava> ScottL: Quite alright. :) No harm done, I was able to find the info on my own.
[09:01] <astraljava> ScottL: I'll see if I can start the thing today, and will post status at some point.
[12:26] <ScottL> astraljava, i was thining about this just before i woke up, it don't believe it has to be a rush to get this backported before 10.04.01
[12:28] <ScottL> astraljava, hmmm, i'm not sure that backporting an application will cause the backporting version to be included on the ISO or not
[12:28] <ScottL> astraljava, of couse, if we can make get it backported before 10.04.01 then we can find out though :)
[12:29] <falktx> ScottL: backports are not enable by default
[12:29] <falktx> so it won't be available, i can guess that
[12:30] <ScottL> thanks falktx, that makes sense
[12:31] <astraljava> ScottL: Gotcha, good thinking.
[12:34] <ScottL> "troy_s: Shut up and blog more."
[12:34] <ScottL> aye, aye, Sir!
[12:43] <astraljava> ScottL: Okay, remind me again, where can I get the source package including debian/ directory?  It's been a while... :)
[12:45] <ScottL> astraljava, i like to use "apt-get source qjackctl" in an appropriate directory
[12:45] <astraljava> ScottL: Problem is I'm not running Maverick.
[12:45] <ScottL> although you either need to be running a maverick version or have added the maverick repositories for source
[12:46] <astraljava> ScottL: Hmm... yeah I could do that. One moment.
[12:46] <ScottL> edit your sources.lst file by hand or use Software Sources, i find the former is quicker if you remember where it is
[12:47] <ScottL> astraljava, when i'm building applications in PPA i use whatever ubuntu verision i am current on
[12:48] <ScottL> because i usually add the new sources repository, download the source, adjust the /debian/changelog * , and then upload to my ppa
[12:48] <ScottL> * = not only increase the revision number but also make sure you change the version from maverick to lucid (in this case)
[12:49] <astraljava> ScottL: Thanks, that did it.
[12:50] <ScottL> astraljava, i don't know how familiar you are with PPA and dput but I found this to be a good post about backporting in general and PPA in specific
[12:50] <ScottL> http://fossmusicproject.blogspot.com/2009/11/ppa.html
[12:50] <astraljava> ScottL: I've uploaded before, but that was some time ago, so I need to refresh my memory anyway. :D
[12:58]  * ScottL is heading to work....see you in one hour
[13:54] <TheMuso> 1/c
[17:33] <astraljava> scott-work: Which PPA are we going to use for qjackctl? Mine or US's?
[17:34] <astraljava> scott-work: I created a lucid pbuilder target and built the package successfully.
[17:46] <astraljava> 0.3.6-1ppa1 is greater than 0.3.6-1, right?
[17:48] <astraljava> Hmm... LP doesn't "finish" OpenID logins at the first attempt. Happened to me at least twice now.
[17:50] <astraljava> WTF?! How does one file a bug in LP these days?
[17:51] <astraljava> Ahh... emails. Goooooooood.
[18:30] <scott-work> astraljava:  using your own PPA is perfectly acceptable
[18:31] <scott-work> astraljava: for the version number you might want to use:  0.3.6-1ubuntu1~ppa1
[18:31] <scott-work> astraljava: at least that is the form that the ppa documentation suggestsion
[18:32] <scott-work> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage
[18:32] <astraljava> scott-work: Okay, I'll do that.
[18:32] <astraljava> scott-work: Am just in the process of building the source package. :)
[18:32] <scott-work> astraljava: if you have already uploaded to the PPA you might have to update the revision number to ...~ppa2
[18:33] <scott-work> oh good, you haven't uploaded then :)
[18:42] <scott-work> i suppose you could use 'dput -f' to force the upload even with the same version number, but i've been stymied before by Launchpad and PPA
[18:43] <scott-work> the bug that i'm really worried about is the network bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/570828
[18:43] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 570828 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "gnome-network-admin on UbuntuStudio doesnt allow to configure either wired networks or wireless" [High,Triaged]
[18:44] <scott-work> we need to get the disable_gui patch taken out but I can't seem to find anyone who will actually *do* it
[18:44] <scott-work> i was hoping to have persia help me but he hasn't been around much lately :(
[18:44] <scott-work> i'll try talking to chris coulson and milan about it again
[18:45] <scott-work> well, "talking" may not be the right word...."beg" may be closer to reality, lol
[18:46] <astraljava> scott-work: Okay, once I get this done (waiting for my gpg key to show up in keyserver.u.c), I can start looking at that one.
[18:47] <scott-work> astraljava: awesome!
[18:48] <scott-work> astraljava:  i was trying to have someone who is really involved with the package already to remove the patch, but that hasn't worked out very well as i previously mentioned
[18:48] <astraljava> scott-work: Happens. :)
[18:49] <astraljava> scott-work: I need to get back to ubuntu work anyway, so might as well get my hands dirty with that.
[18:49] <scott-work> astraljava: although, you might talk to falktx before you start, he said you can't just remove the patch, but rather you have to apply another patch or something, he has it built sans disable_gui patch in his kxstudio ppa
[18:49] <astraljava> scott-work: Oh okay.
[18:51] <scott-work> astraljava: i'm not sure i understand what falktx was saying, however...i thought it would be a simple matter to just remove the patch from the quilt stack (or whatever file name it is) and recompile :/
[18:52] <scott-work> astraljava: but he was pretty insistent that it couldn't be done that way and needed another patch to fix it, perhaps it was his ignorance of the patch system?
[18:52] <scott-work> astraljava: and i don't mean ignorance in a deragatory manner, i'm quite ignorant about many, many things :)
[19:07] <astraljava> scott-work: Yeah I know what you mean. Well I will for sure have a discussion with him before I get that underway.
[19:08] <scott-work> astraljava: or hell, just try it locally and see what happens :) lol
[19:08] <astraljava> scott-work: ...or that, duh! :)
[19:10] <scott-work> lol, i can laugh, because i would have waited to talk to falktx myself because i'm a goofy geek that loses perspective on things like this while i'm doing them :)
[19:13] <scott-work> astraljava: if you can find a solution to the network bug and we can find someone to upload it to the archives for an SRU, that would be INCREDIBLY AWESOME!
[19:14] <scott-work> (my opinion) this has been the biggest complaint for users of ubuntu studio for quite a while and it's rather embarrasing to realize how long it took to address (much less to actually realize there was a problem)
[19:16] <astraljava> scott-work: I understand. Well, I will do my best. Might require an awful lot of help from the more experienced, but that's talk, and I should be able to pull it off.
[19:18] <astraljava> scott-work: Yay! i386 built.
[19:19] <scott-work> astraljava: for qjackctl?
[19:22] <astraljava> scott-work: Yes. This a good bug report? http://paste.ubuntu.com/466599/
[19:25] <astraljava> Hmm... needs 'affects'. Other than that?
[19:27] <scott-work> astraljava: other than you should be able to be included as one of the three, i think* it looks fine
[19:27] <scott-work> * i haven't had too much experience with backports but it looks good to me
[19:27] <scott-work> however, you might also check :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[19:28] <astraljava> scott-work: Oh, dang. That's gonna take some time, as I am leaving town tomorrow morning, and I haven't had my multimedia desktop machine upgraded to lucid. :-/
[19:28] <scott-work> well, this is more specific and pertinent  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Backport%20Process
[19:28] <scott-work> oh, no problem then
[19:29] <scott-work> i just thought you might think that because you reported the bug you might now be accepted as "one of the three"
[19:31] <astraljava> scott-work: Doesn't seem to describe any firm requirements for the bug report. I'll move in.
[19:31] <astraljava> scott-work: Oh no, wouldn't do that! :)
[19:31] <scott-work> astraljava:  :)
[19:31] <astraljava> scott-work: Building successfully != works :D
[19:45] <astraljava> scott-work: Bah, having trouble with mutt and gpg signing... so I might file the bug tomorrow as I need to get some sleep already. But we still have time, don't we?
[19:46] <scott-work> astraljava: oh yeah, there is still plenty of time
[19:47] <scott-work> astraljava: to be honest, even if we don't *ever* get this into 10.04, just fixing the bug going forward for all future releases would be outstanding :)
[19:51] <astraljava> scott-work: Oh, I think I got it. Waiting for verification now.
[19:53] <astraljava> scott-work: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qjackctl/+bug/607914
[19:53] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 607914 in qjackctl (Ubuntu) "Backport qjackctl 0.3.6-1 from Maverick" [Undecided,New]
[19:53] <astraljava> Go have fun! :)
[19:53] <scott-work> astraljava: lol, i shall!
[19:56] <astraljava> scott-work: Okay, I'm off to sleep now. When we get three confirmations, I'll talk to jdong about this bug.
[19:57] <astraljava> scott-work: Oh, amd64 build still pending, but I'll look into it when I'm on the train tomorrow.
[19:57]  * astraljava is gone now
[19:57] <scott-work> astraljava: thanks