[00:57] <zus> will ubuntu studios play well with ableton live formats? im able to download and remix a song, i can download the multi tracks but the files are RAW, GarageBand and Ableton Live.
[03:27] <zus> do i have to download blender each time there is a major release? or will it update on its own with ubuntustudios?
[03:27] <zus> i got 2.49B should i get 2.5alpha yet?
[03:28] <holstein> hmmm
[03:28] <holstein> good question
[03:28] <holstein> zus: how 'into' blender are you?
[03:28] <holstein> if your the casual blender user
[03:29] <holstein> the updates from the repos will probably be cool
[03:29] <holstein> im sure theres a PPA you can add that will give you more current builds
[03:29] <zus> casual for now still learning it
[03:29] <holstein> the versions usually get locked down
[03:29] <holstein> the latest stable or whatever
[03:29] <holstein> and thats what you get
[03:30] <holstein> unless something gets backported
[03:30] <holstein> i dought blender will get backported
[03:30] <zus>  but then when the os updates it isnt going to upddate blender though i'd have to go out and update it as an individual item?
[03:31] <holstein> you'll get updates
[03:31] <holstein> just probably not a new version of blender
[03:31] <holstein> depends really
[03:31] <zus>  got ya.
[03:31] <holstein> ardrou for example
[03:31] <holstein> i forget the version that is in ubuntu
[03:31] <holstein> but, thats the version lucid gets
[03:31] <holstein> unless you add a PPA
[03:32] <holstein> or move up to maverick
[03:32] <holstein> or build, or get a deb or whatever
[03:32] <zus> i just went through a tutorial and it was a bit older  thought i'd ask
[03:32] <holstein> i think especially for the LTS releases
[03:32] <zus> about the updates.
[03:32] <holstein> they (ubuntu) want the most stable versions
[03:32] <holstein> and just keep it that way
[03:33] <holstein> hardy had an old version of firefox
[03:33] <holstein> but i think it was intrepid? that shipped with a beta version of firefox
[03:33] <holstein> so it would have that most current version
[03:34] <zus> so if i have blender 2.49b and version 2.49 is stable  i should  move up but not to 2.5
[03:34] <holstein> zus: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bleedingedge/+archive/ppa
[03:34] <holstein> se
[03:34] <holstein> e
[03:35] <holstein> this is 'bleeding edge' so to speak
[03:35] <holstein> and its a few ticks behind
[03:35] <holstein> 2.45
[03:35] <holstein> i would say, unless there is something you need
[03:35] <holstein> just stick with the one that is in the repos
[03:36] <zus> thanks
[03:38] <zus> this is a crazy program
[03:39] <holstein> looks like
[03:39] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1184942
[03:39] <holstein> there are .debs for 2.49 at the blender site
[03:40] <holstein> but, as they say in the biz... if it aint broke :)
[03:40] <holstein> yeah, i fired it up a few times
[03:41] <holstein> i maverick, i checked out blender with my wacom tablet that i dont know how to use
[03:41] <holstein> i think everything worked
[03:41] <holstein> all the buttons did something anyways
[03:42] <holstein> in maverick*
[04:02] <zus> holstein,  yeah i kinda dont want to stray too far ahead of the LTS. in a way i spent  6 months getting used to ubuntu and now i have a decent idea but im not ready to get on with jumping evey 6 months...
[04:04] <zus> that said i have yet to give mint a decent shot,  though, i think on my mint machine i might bounce here and there with
[04:09] <crackityjones> Anybody here interested in Reborn (A Linux Rebirth clone)??
[04:11] <holstein> crackityjones: interesting
[04:11] <holstein> did you build it?
[04:11] <crackityjones> yes
[04:11] <crackityjones> it wasn't a difficult compile
[04:11] <holstein> crackityjones: check out #opensourcemusicians
[04:11] <crackityjones> i had to install some Jaunty gtk debs and that was it.
[04:12] <holstein> they might feature it on the podshow they do
[04:12] <crackityjones> do you know of the legal issues?
[04:12] <crackityjones> i didn't make the software, someone else did a few years ago.
[04:12] <holstein> OIC
[04:13] <crackityjones> i just managed somehow to find it and build it.
[04:13] <holstein> gotta talk to the dev
[04:13] <holstein> is it opensource?
[04:13] <crackityjones> yes it is. but propellerhead, the company that owns rebirth, threatened a lawsuit so they took it offline.
[04:14] <crackityjones> they said the GUI was a copyright infringement.
[04:15] <crackityjones> i didn't realize you could copyright a GUI. i don't think you can, can you?
[04:15] <zus> no wonder my rebirt didnt work
[04:15] <holstein> who knows
[04:16] <zus> propellor head is  the reason guys  lol
[04:16] <zus> crackityjones,  i caught up with the conversation  lol
[04:16] <zus> crackityjones,  i was asking about  rebirth a few days ago actually
[04:18] <crackityjones> it's http://www.ossh.com/reborn in the wayback machine on internet archive. i couldn't believe it gave me the file.
[04:19] <crackityjones> it works great. i have to compare it to the real thing, but it looks identical. which might explain the lawsuit.
[04:21] <zus> i am not good with compilng.
[04:22] <crackityjones> ah. it has to be compiled.
[04:23] <crackityjones> well, just wanted to share that it is actually still out in internetland. if anybody's interested.
[04:24] <zus> in fact i switched torrent clients because i had to compile the newest version, BUT i have worked with reason and propellerhead  progrmas this is interesting to have  read
[04:24] <zus> i got a 404 - not found from the link
[04:27] <crackityjones> hmm cos i got it. i forget what avenue i took to get to the sourcecode, but it was on that assh.com site.
[04:28] <crackityjones> ossh.com
[04:28] <crackityjones> it's got an install script. sh install.sh is pretty much all i had to do besides round up some libraries
[04:31] <crackityjones> well gotta go. later.
[10:46] <zus> will the ubuntu studio items work in mint, i get  the "mint is not a supported..." answer but gnome is not working out for me.
[10:47] <zus> think i will go back to kubuntu- kinda regretting going gnome again.