[00:30] <Vanessa45> I installed a slave drive this week, formatted it, and it's even mounted.  But, how do I create a folder in it?  I only have Lost + Found in it, and can't create a new folder or paste anything
[00:31] <slidinghorn> Vanessa45, what kind of filesystem is the drive?
[00:31] <Vanessa45> filesystem?  it's a 500 gb Western Digital PATA drive
[00:31] <Vanessa45> does that answer that question?
[00:32] <Vanessa45> it's formatted ext4
[00:33] <slidinghorn> Vanessa45, ext4 was what we're looking for :)  have you tried making the folder in a terminal?  what error(s) were you given?  (command is:  mkdir dirname)
[00:33] <Vanessa45> I did sudo mkdir /storage
[00:33] <Vanessa45> but, it just created a folder on my master drive
[00:34] <slidinghorn> Vanessa45, that's probably because /storage would make the directory in the root folder of your master drive :)
[00:34] <slidinghorn> Vanessa45, try navigating to the directory you want to make a *new* directory in, and type:   mkdir storage
[00:35] <slidinghorn> +sudo*  sorry
[00:35] <Vanessa45> how do I naviage in terminal?
[00:35] <Vanessa45> I entered "dir" and got "desktop" and "pictures"
[00:36] <slidinghorn> cd = change directory...if you don't know what files/folders are in the directory, type ls to list them...from there, you can use the tab key to autocomplete the file/directory name :)
[00:36] <Vanessa45> 24.S06.HR.HDTV.XviD  Desktop      Pictures
[00:36] <Vanessa45> Bios                 jre1.6.0_17  skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.81-1_i386.deb
[00:36] <Vanessa45> this is what I get
[00:37] <slidinghorn> for example cd /home/ryan/Downloads   would take me to the Downloads folder in my home folder :)    cd .. (two periods) takes you to the directory above the one you're in
[00:37] <Vanessa45> cd.. command not found
[00:37] <paultag> cd ..
[00:37] <paultag> space
[00:37] <slidinghorn> ^^
[00:38]  * paultag goes afk
[00:38] <Vanessa45> oh, right, sorry
[00:38] <Vanessa45> ok, I'm at the start, of the master drive
[00:39] <slidinghorn> if you open the drive using your file manager (Nautilus is default in Ubuntu) you'll be able to see the path to use in your terminal...let me see if I can give you some examples -- just a sec
[00:44] <Vanessa45> I have nautilus open, clicked on properties
[00:45] <Vanessa45> the name : WD 500gb
[00:45] <Vanessa45> Location /media
[00:45] <slidinghorn> Vanessa45, Screenshot: http://imagebin.org/106152         and terminal:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/466713/       The lines beginning with ## are comments to you
[00:49] <Vanessa45> I named the drive wd 500gb
[00:49] <Vanessa45> should I delete the space?
[00:49] <slidinghorn> Vanessa45, you don't have to...just use a \  (the one above the Enter key) before the space  (ex:   My\ Documents)
[00:51] <Vanessa45> not working, how do I rename it?
[00:52] <slidinghorn> Vanessa45, do me a favor...copy the output of the ls command in the /media directory and paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com  -- I just want to make sure I follow along with you correctly :)
[00:54] <Vanessa45> cdrom  cdrom0  storage  Verbatim  WD500gb
[00:55] <slidinghorn> Vanessa45, did you type it in as WD500gb  or wd500gb -- everything on a linux system is case sensitive
[00:55] <Vanessa45> I can get in the drive now
[00:55] <slidinghorn> progress!  :)   now try to:   sudo mkdir storage  (or whatever you want to name the folder)
[00:56] <Vanessa45> BINGO!
[00:56] <Vanessa45> ok, it's created
[00:56] <Vanessa45> but, I can't paste in it?
[00:57] <slidinghorn> not sure how to make it paste-able...but you can just copy files using the terminal still :)  cp /path/to/original/file /path/to/copy
[00:58] <Vanessa45> alright, thaniks, it was useful
[00:58] <Vanessa45> learning something new every day
[00:59] <slidinghorn> Vanessa45, we all are!  :)  it's what linux is all about...learning more about how your machine actually works and other new stuff as you go along
[01:00] <Vanessa45> this deserves a beer right?
[01:00] <slidinghorn> Vanessa45, most definitely -- I'll get one too ;)
[01:00]  * slidinghorn runs to the refrigerator 
[01:01] <slidinghorn> ahh...the sweet taste of victory!
[01:05] <Vanessa45> I just found out how to give myself permission
[01:05] <Vanessa45> this could be dangerous :p
[01:05] <slidinghorn> Vanessa45, hahaha  -- careful ;-)
[01:05] <Vanessa45> just for the folder
[01:10] <duanedesign> this is a good page on sudo and root. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:11] <duanedesign> and for file permissions. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[01:11] <duanedesign> FWIW :)
[01:46] <Tarashell> so, my question is, I just got an acer aspire one netbook, but the windows 7 starter thing it comes with won't let me change my background.  Is there a good ubuntu shell/version/etc for netbooks?
[01:47] <slidinghorn> !netbook | Tarashell
[01:47] <ubot2> Factoid 'netbook' not found
[01:47] <slidinghorn> oh, boo!
[01:47] <slidinghorn> lol
[01:48] <slidinghorn> http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook  &  http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook
[01:48] <slidinghorn> check those out Tarashell ^^
[01:55] <Tarashell> mmhmm
[01:55] <Tarashell> shiny
[01:55] <Tarashell> thankks
[01:56] <Tarashell> y'know
[01:56] <Tarashell> the only reason i want to switch is...
[01:56] <slidinghorn> Tarashell, haha, no problem
[01:56] <Tarashell> that I can't do one minor thing
[01:56] <Tarashell> but, windows is made of horrible demons anyway
[02:27] <SunnShine> hello
[02:27] <duanedesign> hello
[02:28] <SunnShine> i have a trouble with ATI on my ubuntu
[02:29] <Vantrax> SunnShine, what do you mean by trouble?
[02:29] <slidinghorn> SunnShine, could you provide some details?  Answers & questions are best on one line, in as much detail as possible.  for multiple lines, use http://paste.ubuntu.com for screenshots: http://tinyurl.com/imagebin
[02:29] <SunnShine> i just can't get it work
[02:30] <Vantrax> how are you trying to get it to work
[02:30] <SunnShine> i don't how how to install my video card drivers
[02:31] <Vantrax> ahh
[02:31] <slidinghorn> are you using the open-source driver?
[02:31] <Vantrax> System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers
[02:31] <SunnShine> yep tried
[02:31] <SunnShine> nothing
[02:31] <SunnShine> there
[02:31] <Vantrax> and you definately have an ATI card?
[02:32] <Vantrax> is it an older card?
[02:32] <SunnShine> yes, older one
[02:32] <duanedesign> SunnShine: what do you get from the Terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal) command:  lspci | grep VGA
[02:32] <Vantrax> most of the older ones use the default drivers as ATI doesnt provide a driver, does the screen display poorly or at a low resolution?
[02:33] <SunnShine> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[02:34] <SunnShine> i have laggies when i'm moving folder, minimalize etc. thats why i need to install drivers
[02:34] <SunnShine> but my mouse is moving properly
[02:36] <slidinghorn> SunnShine, could you please post the output of this command to http://paste.ubuntu.com :  sudo lshw -C video
[02:38] <SunnShine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/466747/
[02:38] <SunnShine> here it is
[02:41] <slidinghorn> SunnShine, have you taken a look at installing the open source ATI driver?  It tends to support older cards very well.  Here's a link w/ more info (remember...read all of it before trying it out)   ;)   -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[02:44] <SunnShine> didn't tried it
[02:44] <SunnShine> thanks, i will try
[05:03] <afsuarez> hi, need help installing my printer
[05:29] <afsuarez> anyone??
[05:29] <ridin> might ask in #Ubuntu
[05:30] <afsuarez> i tried, noone cared :S
[05:30] <ridin> ouch.
[05:30] <afsuarez> yeap
[05:30] <ridin> 3 second brainstorm, while it's plugged in go to system -> preferences -> hardware drivers
[05:30] <ridin> might get something out of it
[05:30] <ridin> might
[05:31] <afsuarez> none, its empty
[05:32] <ridin> hm, 'simple scan' or 'xane' try that
[05:32] <ridin> applications -> graphics i think
[05:33] <afsuarez> simple scan worked
[05:33] <ridin> oyay!
[05:33] <afsuarez> but i cant print anything
[05:33] <ridin> oh fffff
[05:33] <ridin> i've never used a printer with linux
[05:33] <afsuarez> me neither :S
[05:33] <ridin> what does it say in simple scan
[05:34] <afsuarez>  ? ?
[05:34] <afsuarez> about?
[05:35] <ridin> what are you trying to print?
[05:35] <ridin> and never mind about my other question
[05:35] <afsuarez> openoffice doc
[05:35] <ridin> you can't print it file - print?
[05:35] <ridin> ok..
[05:40] <afsuarez> do you know how to manualy install the drivers?
[05:43] <ridin> no, sorry
[05:43] <ridin> try asking in ##linux
[05:43] <ridin> but last time, system -> adminstration -> printers
[05:51] <afsuarez> the system dont recognize it
[05:52] <ridin> did you do add+device uri?
[05:52] <afsuarez> what?
[05:52] <afsuarez> dont knpw what are you talking aboput
[05:53] <ridin> i have no idea either
[05:53] <ridin> `-`
[05:53] <ridin> but i'm trying to help
[05:53] <ridin> when i have no experience with linux
[05:53] <ridin> and printers.
[09:28] <bilal> hi
[10:23] <Maddeth> herro
[10:24] <Mohan_chml> heya MadameTock
[10:24] <Mohan_chml> aww Maddeth*
[11:43] <Silver_Fox_> Hey people
[11:53] <pedro3005> hello Silver_Fox_
[11:53] <Silver_Fox_> Hello pedro3005 :)  How are you ?
[11:53] <pedro3005> Very good, thanks
[11:53] <pedro3005> and you?
[11:56] <Silver_Fox_> Not so bad,  just freeing up some space on a server
[11:56] <pedro3005> sounds fun
[11:56] <Silver_Fox_> Cloud servers are quite fun
[11:57] <Silver_Fox_> Sort of in the middle of making everything work like it use to and have nobody notice that files are being loaded from different locations.  Hooray for perl
[11:58] <pedro3005> Hooray!
[12:03] <Silver_Fox_> pedro3005,  Currently we have ~22GB free .  After this I would like to see that go up to about 100GB
[12:03] <Silver_Fox_> Thats stage 1 anyway
[12:03] <Silver_Fox_> The other 2 stages should clear up some space too :)
[12:03] <pedro3005> That's what, web hosting?
[12:03] <Silver_Fox_> Yes
[12:05] <pedro3005> Nice :)
[13:38] <Sketchbag> Hi, I have a question. I tried running a program in wine and it crashed my computer ....How do I use terminal to get it back *without* restarting
[13:40] <Sketchbag> I restarted "X" using /etc/init.d/gdm restart but on the F7 terminal it hangs at "Checking Battery State....[OK]"
[13:43] <geirha> What about F6, F8, F9?
[13:44] <Sketchbag> omg...lol thanx it was on F8
[13:44] <Sketchbag> Why did it change?
[13:45] <Sketchbag> The theme is also different...is this normal?
[13:47] <geirha> There's some script/program that writes some log-messages. It'll take the first tty available, the same will Xorg. So Xorg probably took a while to start, so it got second.
[13:48] <Sketchbag> So .....Just a thought . Can you run multiple gui's?
[13:52] <geirha> Yes, just choose switch user from the top-right panel thingy. It'll run a new Xorg instance on the next available tty, probably tty9 (F9)
[13:52] <geirha> You can also start one manually from the terminal, with the startx command
[13:53] <Sketchbag> okay cool ...Thanx much for the help
[13:58] <IceIceIce> hey ppl i have a problem installing ubuntu 10.04 netbook dual with win7 starter. when i boot from my diskonkey ubuntu install in the menu of the install there is no side by side install option like it shown on the tutorial
[14:00] <Sketchbag> It will ask you if you want side by side when you get to the partitioning part of the install
[14:01] <Sketchbag> can you give a link to the tutorial?
[14:02] <IceIceIce> sketchbag - i got there and i know it sepose to be there ( 3 options 1-side by side 2 stand alone 3 advanced or someth) by in my install is only 2
[14:04] <IceIceIce> i used the main site of ubuntu they tutorial
[14:04] <Sketchbag> you could do a wubi install
[14:04] <geirha> IceIceIce: What two options do you get?
[14:05] <IceIceIce> stand alone install and the second option goes to some partition tool manu but it is not the side by side
[14:06] <Sketchbag> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
[14:06] <geirha> Hm. Do you see the windows partition(s)?
[14:06] <Sketchbag> You start windows ...then use the wubi installer which is probably already on the disc and it will install ubuntu like a regular windows program
[14:07] <IceIceIce> yes i do . i tryed install wubi but i found only the desktop ver
[14:07] <Sketchbag> okay.
[14:09] <IceIceIce> i would prefer o install the netbook ver and not wubi
[14:10] <Sketchbag> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17486/install-ubuntu-netbook-remix-with-wubi-installer/
[14:10] <Sketchbag> Nevermind lol
[14:10] <geirha> Using the advanced option, you should be able to resize the windows partition I think, but would be better if that side-by-side option had appeared.
[14:11] <geirha> A possibly easier way is to boot the live session, run gparted, resize the windows partition and leave unpartitioned space for ubuntu. The installer should then give you an option to use the available space.
[14:12] <IceIceIce> i did that . resized with win7 part tool and now i have 50g unpart space
[14:13] <geirha> Oh, and still no option :/
[14:13] <IceIceIce> but i can do anyth with this space from the ubuntu install
[14:13] <duanedesign> 'loa ll
[14:13] <geirha> Ok, but you can use the advanced option
[14:14] <Sketchbag> Select the non- windows partition and install
[14:14] <geirha> Create a logical ext4 partition of about 10-15G with mountpoint "/", a logical swap partition about 1.5x physical mem, and the rest a logical ext4 partition with mount-point "/home"
[14:16] <geirha> 'lod uanedesign
[14:16] <IceIceIce> geirha what lang r u speaking in ? :) i am  new to linux
[14:18] <geirha> IceIceIce: Advanced linux language I guess :) I can guide you through it, but right now it's dinnertime.
[14:19] <IceIceIce> geirha bon apetit
[14:23] <Sketchbag> http://www.control-escape.com/linux/lx-partition.html
[14:25] <Sketchbag> Very old but helpful
[14:25] <Sketchbag> :)
[14:25] <IceIceIce> ow i know what it means i dont know how to do it with linux
[14:26] <IceIceIce> but thank you . there must be some couz for the opt of dual to disapier
[14:27] <Sketchbag> The windows partition is a different color from the free space am I right?
[14:27] <IceIceIce> yes
[14:28] <Sketchbag> When you partitioned the drive did you create a new partiton ?
[14:30] <Sketchbag> because if so ....your windows install will only be able to use a certain part of the drive like 40 out of 80 gigs for example ....which means that the other 40 gigs which cannot be used is free for ubuntu
[14:31] <Sketchbag> So if this is the case you can simply just install to the partition that does not contain windows
[14:31] <IceIceIce> i tryed
[14:31] <IceIceIce> cant use it
[14:35] <Sketchbag>  I would suggest typing "/join ubuntu" without the quotes and attempting to get help there
[14:36] <Sketchbag> "/join #ubuntu" ***
[14:36] <duanedesign> IceIceIce: in Gparted does that 50gb show as unallocated?
[14:37] <duanedesign> IceIceIce: if you run the Installer you get this option? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/installinglucid07a.png
[14:38] <IceIceIce> duanedesign: i think it does. i shrank my c drive with win 7 part tool
[14:39] <IceIceIce> duanedesign: the first option in this page u linked is missing
[14:41] <Sketchbag> Based on the picture can you describe what you are seeing?
[14:43] <IceIceIce> i have the opt "erase and use...." and the opt ".....(advanced)" the first option is missin
[14:43] <duanedesign> IceIceIce: have you booted into Windows since you resized it?
[14:43] <IceIceIce> i dont remmember why?
[14:45] <Sketchbag> lol i'm not helping much ...
[14:45] <duanedesign> :)
[14:46] <Sketchbag> I'm pretty sure all he needs to do is click on advanced and move the slider.....
[14:46] <Sketchbag> I don't understand how he could simply not use it
[14:47] <Sketchbag> It's impossible I tell you * Shakes Fist*
[14:47] <duanedesign> :D
[14:48] <duanedesign> is this your first time in the channel Sketchbag ?
[14:48] <Sketchbag> yea
[14:48] <duanedesign> great. It is like a slower paced #ubuntu
[14:49] <duanedesign> that is our goal. Provide a more one on one environment for people to get help. #ubuntu can be a little busy
[14:49] <Sketchbag> Oh I see
[14:50] <Sketchbag> So me trollin probbaly doesn't help lol :D
[14:50] <Sketchbag> probably*
[14:50] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: you are fine
[14:50] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: everyone is welcome
[14:51] <duanedesign> and encouraged :)
[14:51] <Sketchbag> lol
[14:52] <Sketchbag> I just started using xchat and it keeps coming up with these red posts ...it's throwing me off
[14:52] <duanedesign> is that when someone highlights you?
[14:52] <duanedesign> like this Sketchbag
[14:52] <Sketchbag> yea
[14:53] <Sketchbag> I thought you were Pm'ing but there was no window lol
[14:53] <duanedesign> haha
[14:53] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: irc has a little learning curve, not too bad though
[14:54] <Sketchbag> lol yea I'm kinda a noob ...
[14:54] <Sketchbag> How long have you been using linux ?
[14:54] <duanedesign> freenode is a great network. A lot of FOSS channels
[14:54] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: 3 years
[14:55] <Sketchbag> I've been dabbling with it off and on for as long as I can remember...I once built my own kernel in gentoo ...using a guide lol
[14:56] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: i used a ffew other distros first but was having trouble learning the OS. The communities outdide of Ubunt are not nearly as hempful
[14:56] <duanedesign> helpfull
[14:56] <Sketchbag> yea I know what you mean
[14:56] <duanedesign> i got told RTFM aloy
[14:56] <Sketchbag> I found ubuntu about 2 years ago ...and I switched
[14:57] <Sketchbag> RTFM?
[14:57] <duanedesign> nice. Are you using Lucid right now?
[14:57] <Sketchbag> well actually I'm on my vista gaming computer at the moment but the one sitting right next to me is lucid yea
[14:58]  * duanedesign shakes head in disappointment :P
[14:58] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: no, i keep a Windows box for work stuff
[14:59] <Sketchbag> lol the only reason im on it is cuz I had to google how to restart x lol
[14:59] <Sketchbag> I crashed it using wine
[14:59] <duanedesign> heh, there is nothing worse than trying to troubleshoot your computer without Google
[15:00] <Sketchbag> yea lol
[15:01] <Sketchbag> I installed this program called keytouch the other day to map my keyboard and it crashed .....ever since then I have been having problems
[15:01] <Sketchbag> like now for instance I just lost sound ....
[15:02] <Sketchbag> nevermind fixed it
[15:02] <Sketchbag> lol
[15:02] <Sketchbag> So what do you use ...ubuntu?
[15:02] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: so you are trying to remap your keyboard?
[15:03] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: yes I am running Ubuntu Lucid
[15:03] <Sketchbag> I was ..I have a wireless wave some of the keys aren't detected by the gnome default
[15:03] <Sketchbag> Do you have compiz and emerald?
[15:05] <duanedesign> I use Compiz, yes
[15:05] <Sketchbag> I love it
[15:06] <Sketchbag> You should try emerald as well it has a nice little tray icon that allows you to choose your window managers and decorators and the ever usefull reload window manager button .....love it
[15:07] <Sketchbag> I figure if im going to spend so much of my time on there it better be beautiful
[15:08] <duanedesign> right
[15:08] <Sketchbag> lol I talk alot
[15:08] <duanedesign> I ahve been using Docky lately.
[15:08] <duanedesign> Got rid of my bottom panel
[15:08] <Sketchbag> like osx style?
[15:09] <duanedesign> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12476914@N03/4503895078/sizes/l/
[15:09] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: that also shows my Conky and Rainlendar(calendar) setup
[15:10] <duanedesign> those 'rings' are my RAM, CPU, Disk space and time
[15:10] <Sketchbag> Ilike that
[15:10] <Sketchbag> Very cool
[15:11] <Sketchbag> How do you tell which is which though ?
[15:11] <Sketchbag> :)
[15:11] <duanedesign> heh, i took a bit of getting used to
[15:11] <Sketchbag> lol
[15:12] <Sketchbag> I want a performance metre but all I can find is junky ones off of the Software centre
[15:12] <Sketchbag> Do you know a good one .....just like a widget or perhaps a taskbar one
[15:13] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: to measure cpu usage?
[15:14] <Sketchbag> Yea ...but more ....you know full featured , like ram swap usage , video memory that kind of thing
[15:14] <Sketchbag> I like to know what is happening :D
[15:15] <duanedesign> you might look at conky. You dont have to do the crazy ring setup i have
[15:16] <Sketchbag> omg I just got it RTFM - (read the F**king Manual)
[15:16] <Sketchbag> lmao
[15:16] <Sketchbag> Im so slow
[15:16] <duanedesign> http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[15:16] <duanedesign> those are conky setups. It is highly customizable
[15:17] <Sketchbag> I like customizable
[15:17] <Sketchbag> Awsome I'm gonna pick it up
[15:19] <Sketchbag> lol I got it
[15:20] <Sketchbag> But it disappeared haha
[15:20] <Sketchbag> had to terminal it
[15:21] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: you have to tweak the .conkyrc file to get it to your liking
[15:21] <Sketchbag> Shit , the gui disappeared
[15:22] <Sketchbag> .....i've been having problems lately lol
[15:22] <Sketchbag> I had it going but it was just blinking
[15:22] <Sketchbag> then it disappeared lol
[15:23] <duanedesign> hmm, since you installed keytouch you have had issues?
[15:23] <Sketchbag> yea
[15:24] <Sketchbag> It doesnt appear on my proc list anymore
[15:24] <Sketchbag> Took a while to fully kill it
[15:24] <Sketchbag> but I fear something still lingers
[15:24] <duanedesign> that is a kde app. might be something to do with the kde libraries it installed
[15:25] <duanedesign> nevermind
[15:25] <Sketchbag> I personally really dislike Kde
[15:26] <duanedesign> i thought it was a KDE app :P
[15:26] <Sketchbag> It has been ....I dunno what you call it "ported"
[15:26] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: what are the symptoms you are having exactly?
[15:26] <Sketchbag> lol
[15:27] <Sketchbag> Impossible to explain ....
[15:27] <Sketchbag> It's like you know somethings wrong....
[15:27] <duanedesign> gotcha :)
[15:27] <Sketchbag> Ithings just don't work the way they used to
[15:27] <Sketchbag> Thing*s
[15:30] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: one thing to try is to run Metacity for awhile instead of Compiz and see if you still have issues. That could help narrow down your issue. Help you setermine if it is Compiz
[15:30] <Sketchbag> Do you rember the aptitude command to fix all packages?
[15:31] <Sketchbag> That is actually waht I was thinking aswell
[15:31] <Sketchbag> But I didn't think that compiz could have such adverse effects
[15:32] <Sketchbag> I'll try it
[15:32] <duanedesign> sudo aptitude -f
[15:32] <Sketchbag> thanx
[15:34] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: or:   sudo apt-get install --fix-broken
[15:34] <Sketchbag> I have unsatisfied packages ..
[15:34] <duanedesign> haha usatisfied
[15:34] <Sketchbag> lol
[15:35] <duanedesign> we want satisfaction.
[15:35] <Sketchbag> lol everybody needs some satisfaction
[15:36] <Sketchbag> blah .... Apt-get says nothing to fix but aptitude says unsatisfied packs
[15:36] <Sketchbag> wtf....
[15:37] <Sketchbag> Is it not the same program .....lol
[15:38] <Sketchbag> oh well
[15:38] <Sketchbag> So i'm going to try to get conky again
[15:48] <Sketchbag> okay I got it
[15:52] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: here is a thread on the forums that shows peoples conky setup and the .conkyrc they used.
[15:52] <duanedesign> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[15:53] <Sketchbag> oh beautiful
[15:53] <Sketchbag> thanx
[15:56] <Sketchbag> What's your forum user name I want to use you as a referall
[15:56] <Sketchbag> Referrer*
[15:56] <Sketchbag> I have to sign up to veiw the pictures
[15:57] <Sketchbag> If you don't want , thats cool
[15:57] <duanedesign> duanedesign
[15:58] <duanedesign> the ubuntu forums are a great resource
[16:00] <Sketchbag> yea I use them all the time I just never registered
[16:03] <Sketchbag> What if I want to make it transparent
[16:04] <duanedesign> let me see
[16:06] <Sketchbag> I have a beautiful pic on my desktop I don't want to cover it up too much
[16:06] <Sketchbag> :P
[16:06] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: http://paste.ubuntu.com/467045/
[16:07] <duanedesign> Sketchbag:  i added the comment line to show you the one you want to comment ou
[16:07] <duanedesign> s/ou/out
[16:08] <duanedesign> so if you have a line 'own_window_colour' comment it out. I like to leave them and just comment them out in case i want to use them later
[16:12] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: here is a .conkyrc i had that is well commented. http://paste.ubuntu.com/467046/
[16:14] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: a lot of times the conkyrcs use the package hddtemp for hard drive temperature readings so you might have to install: sudo apt-get install hddtemp
[16:14] <Sketchbag> Okay here's the issue I installed conky-all and I went to /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz however the file is not there
[16:14] <Sketchbag> So i Created one in home
[16:15] <Sketchbag> and I killed and restarted but I still get the default
[16:16] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: the file name is  .conkyrc
[16:16] <pjarnahom> can any one help me to change status in empathy
[16:16] <Sketchbag> Where is yours located
[16:17] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: are they all greyed out?
[16:17] <Sketchbag> you are not signed in
[16:17] <duanedesign> Sketchbag:  /home/duanedesign/.conkyrc
[16:17] <Sketchbag> open empathy
[16:17] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, yep
[16:19] <Sketchbag> beautiful got it
[16:20] <Sketchbag> transparency and all
[16:20] <Sketchbag> I forgot to put the  dot before the filename :P
[16:21] <duanedesign> Sketchbag: you can add conky to your startup applications so you dont have to start it each time you boot
[16:21] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: it is because you are not signed in
[16:22] <Sketchbag> lol thanx for the reminder
[16:22] <Sketchbag> I almost forgot
[16:22] <Sketchbag> haha
[16:22] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, am signed in....
[16:23] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, lemme show the screenshot....
[16:24] <Sketchbag> Go to applications / internet / empathy IM client
[16:24] <Sketchbag> Then you can either click the little envelope on the task bar or your sign on name to change status
[16:25] <Sketchbag> If everything is greyed out you are not signed in
[16:26] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, i did it but can't able to change status.....
[16:27] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, http://imagebin.org/106248
[16:27] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, http://imagebin.org/106248
[16:27] <pjarnahom> :-(
[16:27] <Sketchbag> oh..
[16:27] <Sketchbag> Strange
[16:29] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: it does not give you the option to change status when signed on to IRC. Just chat services
[16:30] <Sketchbag> he is using msn though am I correct?
[16:30] <pjarnahom> duanedesign,am using gtalk and fb in empathy
[16:31] <duanedesign> like yahoo messenger....oh i am sorry
[16:31] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, i've connected IRC through Xchat
[16:31] <Sketchbag> Did you try cahnging the status using the toolbar at the bottom of the screen
[16:31] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: that is xchat. I just glanced quickly.
[16:31] <duanedesign> sorry :P
[16:31] <Sketchbag> Try changing the status on the toolbar back to available then changing it in empathy
[16:32] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, ya i did but not working
[16:32] <Sketchbag> Has this happened b efore?
[16:32] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, nope...
[16:33] <Sketchbag> perhaps it may be a one time thing a glitch perhaps ...if you can tell everyone you'll brb and restart empathy
[16:34] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, i've tried it for past days..... :-(
[16:34] <Sketchbag> Have you ever restarted the computer?
[16:35] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, ya i did...
[16:35] <Sketchbag> hmm ....
[16:36] <Sketchbag> What ubuntu version are you using?
[16:36] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, lucid..
[16:37] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: i think i found a bug report on that
[16:37] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=589378
[16:37] <ubot2> Debian bug 589378 in empathy "empathy: Does not allow me to change status via the contact list window" [Normal,Open]
[16:38] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, :-(
[16:39] <Sketchbag> The only thing I can suggest is perhaps reinstalling empathy
[16:39] <Sketchbag> It might not solve anything though
[16:40] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, tried... but same prob.....
[16:40] <Sketchbag> Did you remove it completely before reinstalling or did you just repair?
[16:41] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, removed completely... even cleaned the cache also....
[16:42] <Sketchbag> lol wow
[16:42] <Sketchbag> You got me beat
[16:42] <Sketchbag> Must be a bug
[16:43] <Sketchbag> Just curious what type of processor do you use ? Intel or Amd?
[16:43] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, intel....
[16:43] <Sketchbag> hmm
[16:43] <Sketchbag> netbook?
[16:44] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, pc
[16:46] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, possible to fix tat bug nw ?
[16:47] <duanedesign> that bug is filed on Debian and needs to be filed upstream with Gnome
[16:47] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: what version of Ubunt are you using?
[16:47] <Sketchbag> lucid
[16:47] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: better yet what version of Gnome?  System > About Gnome
[16:48] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, 2.30.2
[16:48] <Sketchbag> same as me and I have never had that problem
[16:49] <pjarnahom> :(
[16:49] <Sketchbag> could it possibly be permission issues .....
[16:49] <Sketchbag> Just throwing it out there
[16:51] <Sketchbag> Try closing the one you have open
[16:51] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, had tried in root user also... :(
[16:51] <Sketchbag> open a terminal type "killallempathy"
[16:51] <Sketchbag> oh...
[16:51] <Sketchbag> lol.
[16:52] <Sketchbag> well anyways ...."killall empathy" then sudo empathy
[16:53] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, no change... :-(
[16:53] <duanedesign> there is also a Debug window. Help > Debug
[16:56] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, wt to do in tat ?
[16:58] <duanedesign> heh, its all kinda greek to me. Maybe look for something that look likes an error?
[17:00] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, nothing in the error category...
[17:04] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: there is an empathy specific chat channel. #empathy on gimpbnet
[17:04] <duanedesign> pjarnahom:  irc://irc.gimp.org/empathy
[17:07] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, hmmm...
[17:16] <Sketchbag> +-
[17:16] <Sketchbag> 88
[17:17] <Sketchbag> ahhh... my cat sat on my keyboard lol sorry
[17:21] <Sketchbag> So it wasn't fixable?
[17:21] <Sketchbag> Hold on I'm gonna go on my buntu puter with xchat so I can play some games att he same time
[17:24] <Sketchbag> K I'm back
[17:27] <Sketchbag> lol my cpu usuage never gets over 10%
[17:45] <pjarnahom> Sketchbag, duanedesign... thanks dude's got fixed that status prob... :-)
[17:48] <Sketchbag> np :D glad we could help
[17:49] <Sketchbag> Sketchbag *Beams with Pride*
[17:50]  * pjarnahom hugs Sketchbag 
[17:50] <Sketchbag> lol awww ha ha
[17:51] <pjarnahom> :)
[17:54] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: thats great!
[17:55] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: the folks in empathy helped?
[17:55] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, yep.... :)
[17:55] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: what was it?
[17:56] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#How_to_connect_when_not_using_NetworkManager.3F
[17:56] <duanedesign> in case someone else comes by with the same problem
[17:56] <duanedesign> pjarnahom: thanks
[17:57] <pjarnahom> duanedesign, first i have to say thanks...
[17:57]  * pjarnahom hugs duanedesign 
[18:29] <Sketchbag> I started compiz and lost all toolbars only background shows
[18:29] <Sketchbag> nevermind ha ha ...Im too smart for my own good
[18:32] <Sketchbag> That was a joke ...I couldn't tie my own shoes without direction
[18:33] <Sketchbag> :D Ha ha I'm so Funny ...
[18:33] <Sketchbag> Sketchbag: Bringing cheap humor to you world
[18:33] <Sketchbag> your*
[18:35] <squaregoldfish> Sketchbag: The direction is down.
[18:36] <Sketchbag> I like to take people attitudes up
[18:36] <squaregoldfish> Sure, but that's not where your shoelaces are.
[18:36] <Sketchbag> lmao
[18:36] <Sketchbag> good one hah ah
[18:37] <Sketchbag> *squaregoldfish gets a gold star*
[18:38] <squaregoldfish> Ooh shiny!
[18:38] <Sketchbag> lol enjoy
[18:39] <Sketchbag> *Your a star today* ^Chessy Smile^
[18:40]  * duanedesign hangs a start chart on the wall
[18:41] <squaregoldfish> Now now, let's not make it a competition.
[18:41] <Sketchbag> lo
[18:41] <Sketchbag> lol*
[18:42] <Sketchbag> I love that conky
[18:42] <Sketchbag> i put it in the bottom right as transparent
[18:42] <Sketchbag> B-E-A-U-tiful
[18:43] <Sketchbag> So i don't know if you guys would know or not but how do I customize my kernel ?
[18:45] <Sketchbag> I have a AMD black edition processor and stuff ...I build my own is there a way to gear it towards the hardware I have built into my system
[18:45] <pedro3005> that's a lot of work
[18:46] <Sketchbag> Thats what I love about linux i can always F**k with something
[18:46] <Sketchbag> Thats why I switched form vista
[18:46] <Sketchbag> from*
[18:47] <squaregoldfish> It's years since I last bothered compiling my own kernel. The default i686 kernel contains everything you need, and mostly you'll just be taking out redundant stuff you don't need. It won't speed your system up really.
[18:47] <Sketchbag> I'm an AMD fanboy if it helps
[18:47] <squaregoldfish> Having said that, if you really want to play, this is a good place for instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[18:48] <squaregoldfish> Be warned that there's hundreds of options to a kernel build, so you'll need to learn what they do...
[18:48] <Sketchbag> lol the first statement
[18:48] <Sketchbag> Building and using a custom kernel will make it very difficult to get support for your system.  While it is a learning experience to compile your own kernel, you will not be allowed to file bugs on the custom-built kernel
[18:48] <squaregoldfish> Yep. It's a dodgy world.
[18:48] <Sketchbag> Damn ..
[18:48] <Sketchbag> I have built a kernel before
[18:49] <Sketchbag> With a guide however
[18:49] <squaregoldfish> I doubt much has changed since you last did it. I see make menuconfig is still there...
[18:51] <Sketchbag> Meh ...I'm wondering what type of pedrformance gain can I get from building my own kernel?
[18:51] <Sketchbag> performance*
[18:51] <squaregoldfish> My guess would be that you might get some increase, but I'd be surprised if it was noticeable.
[18:51] <Sketchbag> keep in mind I have black edition and high end hardware
[18:52] <Sketchbag> I want to do crossfire-x as well but im dumb
[18:53] <Sketchbag> I heard you have to choose the onboard as the deault card then add the gpu from the aTI control panel
[18:53] <Sketchbag> ....lol I have lots of questions
[18:54] <squaregoldfish> I think I'm out of knowledge now...
[18:54] <Sketchbag>  I used to be a ms windoze wizard
[18:54] <Sketchbag> lmao it's cool
[18:54] <Sketchbag> I talk too much
[18:54] <Sketchbag> I basically want to build everything from scratch
[18:55] <squaregoldfish> Of course, if you really want to go mental you could try gentoo.
[18:55] <Sketchbag> I impossible task Im sure
[18:55] <squaregoldfish> That's some scary s*** though.
[18:55] <Sketchbag> An*
[18:55] <Sketchbag> I've done that a few years ago
[18:56] <Sketchbag> It's now a live install like the rest
[18:56] <squaregoldfish> Never had the guts myself.
[18:56] <Sketchbag> lol I just like screwin with stuff
[18:58] <Sketchbag> Linux was just the next logical step from MS Windoze
[18:58] <Sketchbag> I had done all I could with that so I moved on to something more complicated
[18:59] <Sketchbag> to slowly build the challange once agaoi
[18:59] <Sketchbag> again*
[18:59] <Sketchbag> Except I fell in love
[19:00] <Sketchbag> and here I'am .....
[19:00] <Sketchbag> I want to know how to build . dissect and rebuild a linux kernal
[19:00] <Sketchbag> and be able to do it in an afternoon between work and gf
[19:01] <squaregoldfish> I'd concentrate on the gf
[19:01] <Sketchbag> lmao
[19:01] <Sketchbag> We have been together for six years she knows my love of computers
[19:02] <Sketchbag> She is actually pretty good at halo
[19:02] <Sketchbag> kick your bum for shure
[19:02] <squaregoldfish> Probably - I don't play games!
[19:02] <Sketchbag> Good girl I luv her
[19:02] <Sketchbag> lol
[19:03] <Sketchbag> With a dual boot you could * play games*
[19:03] <squaregoldfish> Anyway - got to run - I have a cake to bake...
[19:03] <Sketchbag> Bake your cake and I hope it is a succulent one
[19:03] <Sketchbag> Cya later
[19:03] <Sketchbag> ...meh
[19:05] <pedro3005> Sketchbag, ever heard of linux from scratch?
[19:05] <pedro3005> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[19:09] <pedro3005> ohwait
[19:09] <pedro3005> uhm
[19:09] <pedro3005> wrong channel
[19:19] <Sketchbag> Thanx pedro
[19:20] <Sketchbag> bookmarking for a later project
[19:20] <Sketchbag> I have many old systems I can play with
[19:20] <Silver_Fox_> o/
[19:20] <Sketchbag> One is sitting in the trunk of my car
[19:22] <pedro3005> Sounds fun
[19:47]  * Sketchbag Is a TROLL
[19:48] <Sketchbag> ..that was my cat I swear .....*shifty eyes*
[20:31] <dyno> sup
[20:36] <Silver_Fox_> Can we assist dyno ?
[20:38] <dyno> nooo im good.
[20:39] <Silver_Fox_> Okay.
[22:58] <yax51> ok I have a strange issue with buntu 10.04
[22:58] <pleia2> yax51: what's wrong?
[22:58] <yax51> when I open rythmbox then press play, it closes......
[22:59] <pleia2> ok, you'll want to find out why this is happening, so open up a terminal
[22:59] <pleia2> in the terminal, type: rhythmbox
[22:59] <pleia2> that should launch it from the terminal, when you press play and it crashes it should spout some information in the terminal that'll give you some clues
[23:00] <yax51> pretty much the same when I open the update manager too....
[23:00] <yax51> ** (rhythmbox:2035): DEBUG: Loading the real store page
[23:00] <yax51> ** (rhythmbox:2035): DEBUG: navigation requested to https://one.ubuntu.com/music/store-no-token
[23:00] <yax51> ** (rhythmbox:2035): DEBUG: navigation requested to http://stores.7digital.com/default.aspx?shop=480&partner=983
[23:00] <yax51> Segmentation fault
[23:01] <yax51> I also can't open firefox.....
[23:03] <yax51> it seems the only thing I can do is open chat.....
[23:05] <pleia2> hmm, same thing with firefox?
[23:05] <yax51> it wont even open firefox...
[23:05] <pleia2> from a terminal?
[23:06] <yax51> /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.6/libxul.so: undefined symbol: �ZN4base20WaitableEventWatcher29�illDestroyCurrentMessageLoopEv
[23:06] <pleia2> huh, well that's not good
[23:06] <yax51> no it's not...should I try in recovery mode?
[23:07] <pleia2> that's mostly just useful if you know how to fix what is going wrong
[23:07] <pleia2> sounds like a lot of things going wrong if you're seeing such widespread failure, I've never seen a situation like this :\
[23:07]  * pleia2 pokes others
[23:08] <pleia2> hopefully someone else has some experience :)
[23:08] <Silver_Fox_> No idea, sorry
[23:08] <yax51> reinstall?
[23:09] <yax51> also when I minimize anything it just disappears......doesnt go to a panel or anything....just goes away...
[23:10] <drubin> It seems you are missing one of the libC libarays
[23:11] <drubin> yax51: try on the command line aptitude update and then aptitude safe-upgrade
[23:11] <drubin> with sudo infront of it
[23:12] <yax51> hmmm with the sudo aptitude update it says segmentation fault
[23:13] <pleia2> yax51: was the system working before?
[23:14] <yax51> yeah I was using it last night and everything was fine....but today not so much....
[23:14] <pleia2> it's starting to sound like filesystem corruption
[23:14] <yax51> thats bad....sounds like a reinstall might be in order....
[23:17] <yax51> so the question is....how do I remove this, go back to windows *shudders at the thought* and then reinstall?
[23:19] <pleia2> yax51: hopefully someone has some bright ideas as far as debugging goes to avoid it, but you'd install the same way as you did the first time around
[23:22] <yax51> ok.....what about removing this one? would I just do the install and let it do its thing?
[23:22] <yax51> hold on I'm going to go to recovery mode and see what I can do from there...
[23:23] <stlsaint> drubin: sup man
[23:30] <yax51> hmmm thats odd....it seems to be working now....
[23:31] <stlsaint> well thats a good thing right?
[23:32] <yax51> ok I spoke to soon....
[23:33] <yax51> hmm
[23:34] <Schalla> Some problem?
[23:34] <pleia2> yax51: if you installed ubuntu on it's own partition (rather than inside wubi or something, I don't know how that works), doing a new install on top of it will first format the partitions, removing all data, all traces of the old install
[23:34] <pleia2> so no need to "remove the old one"
[23:35] <yax51> aaah ok....so just do the install like normal and it will take care of it?
[23:35] <yax51> sweet
[23:35] <pleia2> yeah, unfortunately if your filesystem corruption is due to a dying harddrive (the most common cause, in my experience) it will happen again eventually :(
[23:36] <yax51> true, but my computer is only a year old....maybe a year and a half....
[23:37] <Schalla> Well you could check your harddisk.
[23:37] <pleia2> yeah, unfortunately consumer-level harddrives are not exactly known for reliability, I've seen plenty fall over within a year (one in my laptop died 2 weeks after the 1 year warrenty expired, siigh!)
[23:38] <Schalla> @yax51: http://hddscan.com/ You could scan your harddisk for errors.
[23:38] <Schalla> maybe this could help.
[23:38] <seidos> I need help.  Could someone get me the contents of the files here:  /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/*?
[23:39] <yax51> cool....but I'll need to go back to windows for all of this....I shall return
[23:39] <Schalla> hm
[23:39] <Schalla> well
[23:39] <yax51> thanks for all your help!!
[23:39] <pleia2> good luck :)
[23:40] <Schalla> Well yax:
[23:40] <Schalla> e2fsck
[23:40] <Schalla> Is a command to check your harddisk
[23:40] <Schalla> :)
[23:40] <Schalla> But good luck.
[23:41] <phillw> pleia2: don't mention dying hard drives; sore subject :-(
[23:41] <pleia2> phillw: uh oh :(
[23:42] <phillw> still, working out to dd a hard disk with bad areas on it to a new one should be _fun_ :p
[23:44]  * phillw will going to my dad's company to use the internet there so I can do an additional backup to my remote server (or maybe even both of them)