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jmgdamn02:03
jmgwho was the security guy that was helping me with openssl last night02:03
jmgnick started with m02:03
ajmitchmdeslaur?02:04
jmgya thats him02:05
jmgthanks02:05
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achianghm. i'm modifying a package that's using debian 3.0 format. i made a simple change to a file in the debian/ directory. i then prepared it for upload with debuild -S -sa -I -i. examining the diff between the two .dsc files, the changes are huge because it seems like the patches were applied before taking the diff...02:23
achiangdoes that seem right?02:23
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jmgwhoa03:52
jmgis jjohansen dvdjon?03:52
sorenNo.03:56
jmgis anyone aware of an openssl 1.0.0 experimental package?04:35
micahgjmg: debian bug 578376, you can subscribe to find out when it's released to experimental04:39
ubottuDebian bug 578376 in openssl "openssl: OpenSSL 1.0.0 is out" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/57837604:39
jmgthats a shame04:43
jmgi need it for my project04:44
achianghm, if i pass boot=casper, does that mean that scripts in init-* aren't executed?05:15
achiangbecause that's what i'm noticing...05:15
achianghm, maybe that's not true. removing 'quiet' from the cmdline, i can see the debug output from init, and we're definitely doing the stuff in init-*05:22
achianginteresting. so if i say console=tty5, e.g. then i don't see the plymouth splash screen05:25
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pittiGood morning07:40
* LucidFox waves07:41
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diwicpitti, Good morning. Btw, are you in Prague?07:52
pittidiwic: hey, how are you? Yes, I am07:53
diwicpitti, I'm fine, how are you? I should probably say hello to you some time.07:54
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diwicpitti, I have no idea of how you look like though, so it might be hard to find you.07:56
pittidiwic: I'll head over to the plenary room in 2 mins; I wear beige short trousers and a blue collared shirt, and sandals :)07:57
pitti(sounds like a blind date)07:57
diwicpitti, :-) I'm wearing a blue LAC t-shirt today.07:58
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keesjcastro: http://people.canonical.com/~kees/search-eggtrayicon.txt  for mpt11:02
jcastrokees: awesome, I'll put it on the wiki11:03
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bigonIn dmesg You have old & broken userspace please consider updating mesa << is that know or should I open a bug?12:50
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dupondjeWhy is PHP5 not on the MoM ? :)13:18
ScottKpitti, jdong, someone in ubuntu-sru: Would you please look at 569879 (xorg-server - it's in the queue).  It's marked for 10.04.1, so I'd really like to get it accepted so it can get tested.13:30
devfilScottK, ok13:32
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mathiazlifeless: hi!13:34
mathiazlifeless: I'm trying to merge the puppet branch from experimental and run into the following error:13:34
ScottKdevfil: Thanks.13:34
mathiazlifeless: http://paste.ubuntu.com/466976/13:35
lifelessmathiaz: please grab jam, hes in the main room13:35
mathiazlifeless: ok13:35
lifelessjam: ^13:35
jammathiaz: I'm in the community room right now, where are you?13:36
mathiazjam: walking over to your room13:36
pittiScottK, devfil: accepted, thanks13:38
ScottKpitti: Thanks.13:38
pittiI saw the message on other systems as well, but it doesn't seem to cause crashes there13:38
dokoapw, slangasek: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ppa/+packages  (gcc-4.4-fsf), providing a `kgcc' binary13:39
ScottKdoko: How's it looking to get the Linaro changes into Maverick?13:39
slangasekdoko: oh, er, I didn't understand that you were intending this as the workaround for the current issue - I don't want to encourage the kernel team to futz around with a different toolchain for a short-term problem when we're already in the process of regression-testing images resulting from the test rebuild13:40
cjwatsonnot so much a different toolchain as the same one they were previously using13:41
dokoand builds as multilibbed locally here too13:42
cjwatsonand while it's short-term in some sense, it unblocks us wrt the (non-linaro) arm team's concerns13:42
slangasekcjwatson: which is what I understood I was killing my day trying to get an image generated for?13:53
mathiazjames_w: hi - I ran into the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/466976/14:08
mathiazjames_w: and fixed the conflicts14:08
mathiazjames_w: what commit message should I use now?14:08
mathiazjames_w: should I run bzr ci -m "Merge upstream."14:08
mathiazjames_w: ?14:08
tumbleweedmathiaz: bzr resolved14:10
mathiaztumbleweed: I've already done that14:10
mathiaztumbleweed: now I wonder if I do bzr ci or bzr merge-package14:11
tumbleweedmathiaz: the message says: Please resolve these, commit and re-run the "merge-package" command to finish14:11
bigonany idea why xulrunner-1.9.2 pkg configure get stuck in pbuilder ? seems blocked at /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2.7/xulrunner-bin --gre-version14:12
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tkamppeterpitti, hi14:47
pittihello tkamppeter14:47
tkamppeterIt is about my 3 SRUs, you did not move them to -proposed in yesterday's SRU run.14:48
tkamppeterpitti, could you do so so that we can get them into 10.04.1?14:49
pittitkamppeter: see robbiew's announcement, we need to freeze the SRU queue for the 10.04.1 prep14:49
tkamppeterpitti, so I should tell the users to wait 2 or 3 weeks until 10.04.1 is out?14:49
pittimore like 214:51
tkamppeterpitti, one could at least put them into -proposed so that the users get a working system, the final pass to put them into -updates one could do after 10.04.1. WDYT?14:51
pittitkamppeter: that's the problem, we actually need to freeze -proposed14:51
tkamppeterpitti, so I should perhaps bridge the freeze via my PPA, simply to satisfy the users?14:52
pittitkamppeter: sounds great14:53
tkamppeterpitti, I have an improvement suggestion: SRU freezes should be marked in the release schedule plans and announced by e-mail sometimes before, so that developers can better plan their time instead of creating new SRUs in the beginning of SRU freeze.14:54
pittitkamppeter: right; in fact the entire 10.04.1 process has been quite sloppy so far, since we don't currently have a release manager14:54
pittiit'll get better from August on, when we have one again14:55
zulpitti: i pushed the mysql sru fyi15:03
pittizul: ah, thanks15:04
tkamppeterpitti, I hope the 10.04.1 will at least be held back until a solution for bug 554172 gets found.15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 554172 in linux (Ubuntu) "CUPS and other system services not starting at boot" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55417215:07
pittitkamppeter: no, it won't; if we don't have a patch for a problem right now, we won't include it into .115:07
pittizul: can you please upload to maverick, too?15:09
tkamppeterpitti, so the LTS will probably have to live with it as upstart's architecture is a mis-concept, only solvable with highly invasive changes which one cannot apply as SRU?15:09
pittiit's not a mis-concept; we still don't know why it fails on those machines15:09
zulpitti: i already have15:09
pittizul: ah, the maverick task is still open15:09
pittitkamppeter: I don't remember any more, do we know whether other rc2.d/ scripts run?15:10
smosercjwatson, ok. you have a minute ?15:13
tkamppeterpitti, AFAIK the problem is that the script to initiate running old System V startup scripts and the startup scripts itself need /dev/console, and very often this script already starts when /dev/console is not yet writable. What has to be done is to make a task waiting for /dev/console getting ready and making the task for starting the legacy scripts depending on the /dev/console task.15:13
pittitkamppeter: sounds weird (since /dev/console should already be there at initramfs time), but it shuold be easy to make /etc/init/rc.conf wait on that15:15
ScottKtkamppeter: There will be a 10.04.2.15:15
pittiand -updates, too15:15
ScottKYep.15:15
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lifelessmdz: where is this QA thing?15:47
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dokoapw: gcc-4.4 package available in the ubuntu-toolchain ppa16:27
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Syntheadis this the right channel if I need help making a .deb?16:40
micahgSynthead: try #ubuntu-packaging16:41
Syntheadthanks :)16:41
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dupondjeWhy is PHP5 not on the MoM ? There is a newer version in debian, but seems not listed17:18
micahgdupondje: it should be there17:19
dupondjeits not :)17:19
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micahgdupondje: it'll probably show up soon17:21
dupondjeits really a requirement to get the new version in ubuntu17:21
dupondjeshould even be SRU'ed17:22
dupondjefixing memory leaks and other shizzle :)17:22
micahgdupondje: php SRUs are no easy matter, you should talk to the server team though if you think it's a priority17:23
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failshellhello. i was wondering how you guys handle the different branches of ubuntu when you build packages. i use pbuilder to build them, but i always have to edit debian/changelog manually for either hardy or lucid. is there a way to have this done automatically by pbuilder instead of doing with dch?18:43
failshelldo you have build machines for each branch?18:43
vishhi,  are there no -dbgsym packages in maverick?20:59
vishthere seems to be only one pkg-create-dbgsym20:59
vishrest seem missing.. or have they been moved?20:59
vishneed a replacement for libcamel1.2-14-dbgsym , in maverick , there is no -dbg for that one..21:00
geservish: what's wrong with the ddebs for it from http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/e/evolution-data-server/?21:05
vishgeser: hmm , I'm trying it in a VM and it doesnt find it.. there seem to be only 1386 and amd64  packages..21:07
vishVM maverick..21:07
geserand you need which architecture?21:08
vishgenii: shouldnt the i386 work for a VM?21:09
geservish: if you VM is a i386 one then they should work21:09
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vishgeser: hmm , oops , it was just synaptic being odd here!21:20
vishit is not able to search , but when i scrolled it is there..21:20
vishheh , should have stuck with apt-get ;p21:21
vishgeser: thanks!21:21
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ChipacaHi all. I've got a debdiff that fixes #608341 ; who can I pester to sponsor the upload?21:41
tumbleweedChipaca: you subscribe ubuntu-sponsors21:41
Chipacatumbleweed: done.21:43
Chipaca*now* who can I pester to sponsor the upload? :)21:44
Chipacathe bug makes the package uninstallable, so I'd like to get it out there soonest21:44
tumbleweedit's main, good luck :P21:44
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Chipacarepeating, just for luck before I head on out22:21
ChipacaI've got a debdiff that fixes #608341 ; upload plz :)22:21
tumbleweedChipaca: it helps to get attention if you give the bug number in a form that ubottu understands22:23
beunobug 60834122:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 608341 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store (Ubuntu) "package rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60834122:23
tumbleweedthat way the "Critical" stands out :)22:23
micahgChipaca: an in progress bug won't get sponsored22:26
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