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godbykw00t!  I have electricity at home again!  I have rejoined the civilized world.00:10
dakergodbyk, <thorwil> godbyk-sagan: http://www.behance.net/gallery/Getting-Started-with-Ubuntu-10_04-Title-Page/58823300:11
godbykdaker: Thanks. I saw that a bit earlier.00:12
godbykthorwil disappeared before I could respond, though. :)00:12
godbykdaker: Did the website ever update like you expected it to?00:12
dakershould ask infosoft00:13
dakerinfosoft, is the translations oki on the website ?00:13
infosoftI'll check now.00:28
dakerooki00:29
infosoftIt seems good. I thought there was going to be released new design. Translations are good (I'm kinda grammar and constant style maniac and that means usually I don't make much mistakes :) )00:31
dakergood00:32
dakerthanks for what you have done00:32
infosoftI mean my native language. My English skills are ... not well enough. I understand everything but it's sometimes hard to express something in that language :D00:33
godbykHeh.. it's hard for us native English speakers to express things in the language sometimes! :)00:36
infosoftInteresting... "Heh" can be translated as "ech" :D00:38
infosoftI mean sometimes I use this expression.00:38
infosoftBut not in the manual, of course. :)00:39
dakerhi humphreybc02:39
dakerhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-arabic-manual02:39
humphreybcdaker!02:39
humphreybccool, explain?02:39
dakerwe will create a team that will maintain the arabic translation02:40
dakerfor the manual02:40
dakerfor each version02:40
dakeri'll try to find about 20 person from the arabic loco team02:41
humphreybcnice02:42
dakerthere are replies from people interested02:42
humphreybcsweet as02:43
humphreybcdid you get my email with the psd files?02:44
dakeryes02:44
dakeractually i have some work to do for the university02:44
humphreybcno problem02:45
humphreybcthere isn't a huge rush :)02:45
humphreybcreal life is important too haha02:45
dakeri'll will start in august02:45
humphreybc:)02:48
humphreybcyou're a legend daker02:48
dakerso write something for me if you want02:50
dakerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdnaneBelmadiaf02:50
humphreybcdaker: sure thing, I'll make a memo to do so soon02:54
dakerhumphreybc, thanks :D02:56
dakerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperationCleansweep02:57
dakerooups03:00
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dakerhttp://whichloadsfaster.com/?l=ubuntu-manual.org/&r=www.ubuntu.com14:26
dakera cool apps14:26
dakergodbyk, ping14:37
mhall119godbyk: daker says ubuntu-manual is/was hosted with dreamhost14:37
mhall119I was wondering if you thought they were a good host, or if you had any problems with them14:38
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flanMoving almost done!17:58
flanI'll be able to write code again soon!17:58
flanAnd, y'know, become undead. Like a zombie. Rather than just a lurker.17:58
nisshhflan: hehe17:59
flanIt's been tough. :(18:00
nisshhflan: moving country or just area?18:01
flanJust within the city.18:01
flanBut delays keep happening.18:01
nisshhright18:01
flanI don't think I've even said anything in here in a week.18:17
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c7phellow world20:40
godbykHey, c7p.20:44
godbykDo you know of any remaining bugs in the Greek edition?20:44
c7phey godbyk :)20:44
c7pnope, do you ?20:44
godbykOr shall I push the big green button tonight?20:44
godbykNone that I know of, though I'm sure we'll find plenty after it's been published. ;-)20:45
c7pactually send me the final pdf to check it for sure20:45
c7pxD surelly :P20:45
godbykSure thing.20:45
godbykc7p: Have you proofed thorwil's wrap-around cover?20:47
c7pyes20:47
thorwilwould be great to finally have a translation done an out there :)20:47
godbykthorwil: I agree.20:48
c7pi agree too20:48
godbykI think the German translation is next on the list.20:49
godbykI haven't heard from any of the other translation editors, so I don't know about the progress on other translations.20:49
c7pfrom what i see in Galician and Spanish the translation is also completed, maybe a mail on the mailing list will motivate someone with proper knowledge to become editor20:52
godbykYeah, I'll send out an email soon asking for updates.20:52
c7pok, I'll be back in a few mins20:55
c7pgodbyk: will you send me the pdf today or I'm waiting it for tomorrow ?20:55
godbykc7p: Uploading now.20:57
godbykThey will be at http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/builds/ubuntu-manual-el-print.pdf and http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/builds/ubuntu-manual-el-screen.pdf20:57
godbykIt's uploading the second pdf now.20:58
godbykOkay, both PDFs have been uploaded now.20:58
godbykc7p: Just let me know on irc or email if there are any bugs or if we're good to go.20:58
godbykI'll have to upload the print version to lulu.com and then update the url on the copyright page of the screen version (to point to the lulu.com url).20:59
godbykBut that'll be the only change I make.20:59
c7pback21:11
c7pi'm checking both pdfs now21:11
thorwilgood night! :)21:12
c7pgodbyk: hmm ... on index i found "Apt" and "apt" entries, should they become one entry ?21:20
c7pthe pdf screen is ok21:24
godbykI'm back now.21:29
godbykc7p: Probably, yeah.21:29
c7pok, and one more question21:29
c7pon the printed edition of the manual, how can one understand that the word/term that he is reading (e.g server) is explained on the glossary ?21:29
godbykYou'll have to search the .tex file for something like \commandlineapp{Apt} and change it.21:30
godbykc7p: They can't.21:30
c7pok thx21:30
godbykMost of the terms are explained in the text.  The glossary is more for quick lookups.21:31
c7pyes from \commandlineapp{Apt} to \commandlineapp{apt}21:31
godbyk(I'd like there to be a lot more glossary entries in the future, but that'll be for the Maverick edition, maybe.)21:31
c7pyeah you're right21:31
c7pgreat, that would definitely help newcomers21:31
c7pthe tex file is the one i have on my local pc ? or should i download it ?21:32
godbykI just committed a couple minor fixes (that don't affect the appearance).  So you'd best grab the latest ubuntu-manual-el.tex from the repository.21:33
c7pok21:33
infosoftIt might be useful to add section "Main Terms" in ubuntu-manual.org :)21:33
c7pgodbyk: ok done, who can push it on repo ?21:35
godbykI can if you want to email it to me.21:36
c7pok thank you, message sent21:38
c7pput the lulu link at place, build the manual, press the green button and we are ready to party :P21:40
godbykcool21:41
godbykwill do.21:41
godbykc7p: New PDFs are up. Same place.21:50
c7pshould I recheck them ?21:51
godbyksure. at least for your apt bug21:51
c7pit's ok you can go on21:53
godbyk'kay21:55
dakerjenkins, are you around ?21:56
jenkinsdaker: Hello21:56
dakerhi21:56
dakerPM21:56
jenkinssure go for it21:57
jenkinsinfosoft: what was that latex link you gave me?22:11
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godbykdaker: you still around?22:25
dakergodbyk, yep22:37
godbykdaker: cool. we should be ready to publish the greek edition in just a few minutes.22:37
godbykdo you have time to hang around and help us get it on the website?22:37
godbykc7p: is the greek translation of the website up to par?22:38
c7ppar ?22:38
godbykare the translations okay (up-to-date, correct, etc.)?22:39
c7pyap from what i remember22:41
c7pbut I'm not sure if the lattest translations are loaded on site22:41
godbykMay be a good time to check. (Before we start sending all the Greeks to the site.) :-)22:42
dakergodbyk, sure22:43
dakerdo we still it's e1 or e2 ?22:43
dakerit's e1 or e2 ?22:43
godbykdaker: It's the first edition of the Greek translation.22:44
dakeractually i can't upload anything22:46
dakeri have problems with the provider22:46
dakeri'll make just patchs22:47
dakerthen you can apply them22:47
godbykokay.22:49
dakerthe name of the file is ?22:50
c7pthe translations are ok22:51
c7p(I mean on the site)22:51
dakergodbyk, the name of the file is ?22:52
dakerc7p, the code of the language is ?22:53
godbykdaker: language code is 'el'22:54
dakergodbyk, the name of the file is ?22:54
infosoftjenkins: Probably you want http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/    Sorry I couldn't answer earlier. I'm a little bit busy :) There you'll find good LaTex summary (but it's more useful for scientific articles and there's not much about text formatting, styles, etc.)22:55
jenkinsthanks infosoft, no worrie I will book mark it this time22:55
c7pel22:55
dakerGalego ?22:55
c7pnope22:55
c7pΕλληνικά or Greek22:56
dakerah oki22:56
dakerth pdf on the server will be named as ?22:57
c7pare you asking me ?22:58
dakernop godbyk22:58
godbykdaker: Just a moment.22:59
dakeroki22:59
godbykI'm going to add another php file to the website that will simply redirect to lulu.com.23:00
godbykI'm having trouble getting the URLs in the copyright page (due to using Greek characters in the url or url-encoded text [with % characters]).23:01
godbykLet me get you the file names.23:01
dakerfeel free to do anything23:01
godbykThey will be named: Ξεκινώντας με το Ubuntu 10.04.pdf23:02
godbykURLs for downloads will be:23:02
infosoftjenkins: There's another book where you'll find much formatting and other information. Sadly, I don't remember URL, so I've uploaded PDF file of this book: http://infosoft.lt/LATEX_Tutorials.pdf23:02
godbykscreen:  http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/manuals/getting-started-with-ubuntu/10.04/el/screen/Ξεκινώντας με το Ubuntu 10.04.pdf23:03
godbykprint: http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/manuals/getting-started-with-ubuntu/10.04/el/screen/Ξεκινώντας με το Ubuntu 10.04.pdf23:03
godbykdaker: If you want versions of the files with _ instead of spaces, I can do that, too.23:03
c7pwow it's big23:03
godbykdaker: oh, and I'll upload them to the vrac mirror also.23:03
godbykc7p: yeah, but no one will ever see that url.23:03
c7pah np then23:04
jenkinsthanks infosoft I have saved that for refernece23:05
dakergodbyk, do we still need mirrors ?23:06
godbykdaker: probably not.23:08
dakerso i'll remove them23:08
godbykdaker: I should probably have you write this php script. You'd do a better job of it. :-)23:09
dakerwith the next version will do this job your self :D23:10
godbyklol23:11
dakerwe should have a news system23:12
godbykyeah, we should.23:12
dakeron the website23:12
dutchieisn't that twitter?23:13
dutchiewe should use that more23:13
dakeryes23:13
dakereverything is oki ?23:18
dakergodbyk,23:18
godbykhey, daker .23:18
dakeri'll send you diff files23:19
daker2 diff files23:19
godbykokay23:19
daker@all are you ready ?23:32
c7pyap :P23:33
godbykdaker: I'm typing as fast as I can. :-)23:33
dakeri am not talking to you, i know you are typing :)23:34
c7phttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwwWo-NzPFo lol "Java 4 Ever"23:57

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