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[04:11] <MTecknology> Is this a BSD license?  http://dpaste.com/220330/
[04:12] <ScottK> MTecknology: BSD like, but not precisely BSD.
[04:13] <MTecknology> ScottK: so he came up with his own license?
[04:13] <ScottK> I'm guessing he copied it from somewhere.
[04:14] <MTecknology> How far off is it from being BSD?
[04:14] <MTecknology> actually... http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
[04:14] <MTecknology> It looks like only the third bullet is missing..
[04:15] <MTecknology> ScottK: or am I wrong?
[04:16] <ScottK> Probably not (sorry, no time to read it)
[04:17] <MTecknology> ScottK: ok, thanks
[04:32] <micahg> should I be running into criss-cross merges with udd merges?
[05:07] <bilalakhtar> Good morning everyone. It appears that when I switched to UDD, my patches stopped getting sponsored. Is there really a differentiation like this? or sponsors are fair on both affairs?
[05:08] <maco> bilalakhtar: what do you mean? you mean you're making branches and attaching them but not using debdiffs? are you remembering to submit merge proposals for those branches?
[05:08] <maco> james_w: how do i get on the list of people notified of merge proposals being submitted, by the way?
[05:11] <bilalakhtar> maco: yes, I am proposing merge. see http://code.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar
[05:11] <bilalakhtar> see so many branches have merge proposals\
[05:12] <maco> bilalakhtar: then i suspect its just because the list of people who receive notification of merge proposals is tiny (like...james_w and cjwatson and ummm none others i know of) with no instructions on how to join it
[05:12] <bilalakhtar> maco: so what should I do?
[05:12] <micahg> bilalakhtar: 4 of your merges show up on teh sponsoring page
[05:13] <bilalakhtar> maco: yes, they do, but no response
[05:13] <maco> pokr a sponsor like you'd do anyway?
[05:13]  * maco never had anything sponsored without flat-out asking for a sponsor on irc
[05:13] <bilalakhtar> maco: oh
[05:14] <micahg> bilalakhtar: we're still short on sponsors
[05:14] <bilalakhtar> maco: but, 4-5 of my debdiff merges got sponsored easilt
[05:14] <bilalakhtar> easily
[05:14] <bilalakhtar> and by easily, I mean within 2-3 days without having to come here
[05:15] <bilalakhtar> the problem is with UDD. Perhaps sponsors find debdiffs easier ?
[05:15] <maco> some do, yes. havent all learned the new way
[05:15] <maco> teaching old dogs new tricks, as it were
[05:16] <maco> micahg: why only 4 of the 6 show on the sponsor page?
[05:16] <micahg> maco: idk, I only saw 4
[05:16] <maco> weird
[05:17] <bilalakhtar> maco: the rest have been commented by sponsors and set 'needs fixing'
[05:17] <bilalakhtar> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/ubuntu/maverick/selinux-basics/merge-603595/+merge/29547
[05:17] <bilalakhtar> and
[05:18] <bilalakhtar> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/ubuntu/maverick/gpsdrive/merge-605350/+merge/29852
[05:19] <bilalakhtar> maco: but this one https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/ubuntu/maverick/selinux-basics/merge-603595/+merge/29547 should be shown on sponsorship page, as I have fixed all the stuff pointed out by Stefano
[05:20] <maco> gah lp login has switched to the left side of the screen. confusing
[05:21] <maco> bilalakhtar: i think you want the "resubmit proposal" button on the right
[05:22] <bilalakhtar> maco: lp login on the left? when? Not for me, right now
[05:22] <bilalakhtar> ok, I will do that
[05:23] <bilalakhtar> maco: done
[05:23] <maco> if im guessing right about how it works, thatll put it back on the sponsor page
[05:23] <micahg> is there a UDD channel?
[05:24] <maco> ah!
[05:24] <maco> i think also the "request another review" button and putting in ubuntu-sponsors would work
[05:25] <maco> it likely goes by that team being listed, but once stefano had taken it for review it went off the list
[05:30] <bilalakhtar> maco: you are motu, right?
[05:30] <maco> yes
[05:30] <maco> i cant sponsor on the slow slow awful network im on right now though. if you poke me in about 12 hours i can do an upload from work though
[05:31] <bilalakhtar> Stefano was right on the gpsdrive merge. nothing is remaining, once I had solved a few issues. So, I am forwarding patch for bug #325288 to debian and requesting sync.
[05:31] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 325288 in gpsdrive (Ubuntu) "gpsdrive-scripts: geo-code should use /bin/bash" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325288
[05:31] <bilalakhtar> maco: I just need you to review sync. can you do that, please ?
[05:32] <maco> er... do what?
[05:32] <maco> i thought syncing was for archive admins
[05:32] <micahg> maco: syncs need a sponsor ack
[05:32] <bilalakhtar> exactly ^^
[05:34] <maco> oh
[05:34] <bilalakhtar> maco: bug #605350
[05:34] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 605350 in gpsdrive (Ubuntu) "Please sync gpsdrive 2.10~pre4-6.dfsg-5 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605350
[05:34] <bilalakhtar> oops, setting it to new now
[05:34] <bilalakhtar> bug #605350
[05:44]  * micahg goes to do a merge to feed the builders :)
[05:49] <micahg> do the Ubuntu builders understand this notation in control: libgudev-1.0-dev [linux-any]]
[06:26] <bilalakhtar> hyperair: hello and welcome
[07:27] <wgrant> micahg: I'm not sure if it's been rolled out yet, but support for [linux-any] in build-deps was added to trunk a couple of days ago.
[07:28] <micahg> wgrant: what's the worst that would happen if I upload with it (asumming it builds locally)
[07:32] <wgrant> micahg: The build will fail.
[07:33] <micahg> wgrant: k, in which case, I bump the changelog and get rid of the fields?
[07:33] <wgrant> Or it chooses an alternative dep.
[07:33] <wgrant> micahg: Or convince lamont to upgrade the buildds, then hit retry.
[07:36]  * micahg still needs to convince lamont to upload the new nmap :)
[08:00] <james_w> maco: you can subscribe to the ubuntu-reviews mailing list
[08:04] <micahg> wgrant: fails in pbuilder, I'll fix the deps in the control file
[08:14] <bilalakhtar> Are merges allowed after FeatureFreeze ?
[08:14] <bilalakhtar> ok, got it. NO
[08:14] <BlackZ> bilalakhtar: if they're requested before the FF, yes
[08:15] <micahg> bilalakhtar: depends if they are feature changes
[08:19] <geser> bilalakhtar: like micahg said, depending on the changes merges can be allowed or need an exception
[08:20] <geser> bilalakhtar: new upstream version most likely need an exception, but merging e.g. from -1ubuntu1 to -2 is no problem (unless this introduces a new feature)
[08:23] <bilalakhtar> ok
[08:23] <bilalakhtar> so FF really means FEATURE freeze
[08:24] <geser> yes
[08:24] <bilalakhtar> geser: are you free?
[08:24] <geser> yes
[08:25] <bilalakhtar> geser: could you please check bug #605350
[08:25] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 605350 in gpsdrive (Ubuntu) "Please sync gpsdrive 2.10~pre4-6.dfsg-5 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605350
[08:27] <BlackZ> bilalakhtar: could you link the debian bug report to the LP one?
[08:27] <bilalakhtar> BlackZ: I have done it. see bug #325288
[08:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 325288 in gpsdrive (Ubuntu) "gpsdrive-scripts: geo-code should use /bin/bash" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325288
[08:31] <BlackZ> bilalakhtar: if it's not accepted yet from debian we can't sync the package and we have to proceed with a merge, if it's not applied before the debian freeze, proceed with a merge then
[08:33] <bilalakhtar> BlackZ: but Stefano commented "Nothing is remaining now"
[08:35] <BlackZ> bilalakhtar: check the debian package changelog if you have any doubt on it
[08:36] <bilalakhtar> yes, nothing is remaining, Stefano is correct, but I think stefano forgot about this bug, which I fixed myself
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[10:03] <Riddell> geser: ping
[10:04] <Riddell> geser: your acetoneiso upload got caught in the qtwebkit transition we're doing
[10:04] <Riddell> geser: can you upload with the build-dep changed to libqtwebkit-dev
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[12:43]  * Rhonda blinks at http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libX11/commit/?id=554d
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[14:06] <plars> I'm seeing a warning: "This package could not be extracted; there's no browsable directory for it on REVU" on something I uploaded, but I can't seem to find an explanation of what causes that
[14:08] <BlackZ> plars: does the package use quilt 3.0 ?
[14:08] <Rhonda> What's quilt 3.0?
[14:09] <plars> source format 3, yes, but I don't currently need any patches, so no quilt
[14:09] <Rhonda> plars: REVU doesn't support source format 3 yet, sorry.
[14:09] <BlackZ> Rhonda: I meant quilt with the source format 3 ;)
[14:09] <plars> Rhonda: ah, so should I have done something else?  I was not too familiar with the source format stuff, but from what I read it sounded like I should use 3 unless I had a good reason not to
[14:09] <Rhonda> BlackZ: It's a bad misnamer, though. But that's a different story.
[14:10] <Rhonda> plars: Use the same source format than what the package uses in Debian.
[14:10] <Rhonda> Or isn't it in Debian? If not, why not? :)
[14:10] <plars> Rhonda: this is a new package
[14:11]  * Rhonda . o O ( to me REVU would be a good reason not to use 3 ;) )
[14:21] <geser> Riddell: the latest upload of acetoneiso build-depends on libqtwebkit-dev only already. The unmodified Debian package had "libqt4-dev (<< 4:4.7.0~beta2) | libqtwebkit-dev" in Build-Depends but due a bug in the buildds it got resolved wrongly and the package FTBFS and I dropped the first part of it.
[14:35] <juli_> Hello. Could you please review a new package felix-osgi-obr required for NetBeans 6.9 packages. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/felix-osgi-obr. Thanks
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[14:56] <ScottK> geser: Is there a bug so wgrant can fix it?
[14:57] <wgrant> ScottK: There is a bug.
[14:57] <wgrant> I'm working on porting LP to use a modern, system sbuild.
[14:57] <wgrant> Which should fix it.
[14:57] <ScottK> wgrant: Thanks.  Sounds lovely.
[14:57] <wgrant> But it's a couple of months off at least.
[14:57] <ScottK> Yes, doesn't sound trivial.
[14:58] <wgrant> Our sbuild currently has some wonderful, wonderful hack.s
[14:58] <ScottK> Not suprising.
[15:02] <geser> ScottK: yes, that issue is filed as bug #594916
[15:02] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 594916 in Launchpad Auto Build System "buildd doesn't correctly check versioned ORed build-dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/594916
[15:02] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:05] <geser> ScottK: can you fix bug #607429? or is an AA with shell access needed? (it's an archive inconsistency)
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 607429 in java-common (Ubuntu) "Move gcj-native-helper from universe to main on i386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607429
[15:05] <ScottK> geser: needs shell access.
[15:12] <StevenK> geser: DOne.
[15:12] <StevenK> s/O/o/
[15:12] <geser> thanks
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[16:32] <lfaraone> The prefered method for sponsorship requests for new upstream versions using 3.0 (quilt) is to provide a link to the orig.tar.gz and upload as a patch the debian.tar.gz, right?
[16:44] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: if the watch file works, you prabbly don't need to provide the orig.tar.gz
[16:44] <micahg> do I need to worry about non-linux arches in Ubuntu?
[16:44] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: you can also use the UDD approach (use bzr merge-upstream)
[16:44] <ScottK> micahg: No.
[16:44] <micahg> ScottK: k, thanks
[16:48] <micahg> ScottK: what's the arch reference called after the package in the control file:  libgudev-1.0-dev [linux-any] so I can mention in the change log that I'm dropping it
[16:49] <ScottK> Why are you dropping it?
[16:49] <ScottK> Ubuntu doesn't require it, but it doesn't hurt.
[16:50] <micahg> I had trouble in pbuilder with it, is there some flag I'm missing?
[16:52] <tumbleweed> didin't I see something about soyuz also not liking linux-all?
[16:56] <micahg> ScottK: pbuilder can't find the build-deps, I figured that soyuz wouldn't have any better luk
[16:56] <micahg> *luck
[16:57] <ScottK> That's relatively recently.  I'm guessing you're on Lucid with your pbuilder?
[16:57] <ScottK> recently/recent.
[16:57] <micahg> ScottK: yes, but in a maverick pbuilder
[16:58] <ScottK> If it doesn't work in Maverick, we need to get that fixed as it's supported.
[16:58] <micahg> ScottK: so I should upload w/out testing?  wgrant told me it hit the buildd trunk recently
[16:59] <ScottK> I'd upload to a PPA and see what happens.
[16:59] <micahg> ScottK: ok
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[17:07] <micahg> BlackZ: congrats on becoming MOTU
[17:09] <BlackZ> thanks micahg :)
[17:34] <shadeslayer> BlackZ: kongrats :D
[17:35] <BlackZ> thanks shadeslayer, thanks all ;)
[17:36]  * shadeslayer just got his first package into debian
[17:48] <lfaraone> I have a local mirror of maverick and lucid. Is there a way I can have pbuilder use that rather than duplicating these packages in the cache when it downloads from the local mirror via HTTP?
[17:49] <lfaraone> Unrelated, if a package was removed in say, Intrepid, does it count as new if we reupload it now in maverick?
[17:54] <shadeslayer> lfaraone: yes
[17:54] <shadeslayer> to the first question ;)
[17:55] <lfaraone> shadeslayer: okay, how can I do that? :)
[17:55] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: and to the second question
[17:55] <JontheEchidna> lfaraone: I'm fairly sure that it'll have to go through both binary and source new queue
[17:55] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: pbuilder --login --save-after-login
[17:55] <tumbleweed> then you can do whatever you want in there
[17:56] <tumbleweed> oh, misread
[17:56] <shadeslayer> lfaraone: well ^^ or you can modify ~/.pbuilderrc
[17:56] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: APTCACHE="" in pbuilderrc
[18:01] <carstenh> or you use --aptcache ""
[18:15] <mhall119> is there a way to make a package depend on $pkg-gnome if the user has gnome installed, and $pkg-xfce otherwise?
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[18:19] <mhall119> specifically, I'm going to make a qimo-session-xfce (for Qimo), and qimo-session-gnome (for Edubuntu)
[18:19] <mhall119> but if someone wants to install qimo-desktop, and they already have gnome, I want to use qimo-session-gnome, otherwise I want to use qimo-session-xfce
[18:44] <geser> ScottK: soyuz doesn't support "Architecture: linux-any" yet (bug #605002) and the buildds don't know what to do with "[linux-any]" in build dependencies either (bug #604981)
[18:44] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 605002 in Soyuz "Soyuz doesn't accept upload with "Architecture: linux-any"" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605002
[18:44] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 604981 in Launchpad Auto Build System "The buildd doesn't support [linux-any] in build dependencies" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/604981
[18:45] <ScottK> geser: Thanks.  It needs to get fixed since Debian is using this.
[18:45] <ScottK> wgrant: Does ^^^ wait your sbuild update or is there more hope?
[18:46] <geser> the buildd fix probably just need deploying
[18:47] <shadeslayer> cjwatson: around?
[18:48] <geser> mhall119: I don't know of any possibility to do that
[19:19] <jasem> Hi, any issues with launchpad? tried to upload a package but no notification at all?
[19:21] <jpds> jasem: Do you mind if I PM you?
[19:22] <jasem> jpds: not at all
[19:27] <om26er> hi! I downloaded the gnome-disk-utility branch, changed debian/changelog added a patch in debian/patches and also a text entry for the name of the patch in debian/series after I did debcommit patch is not applied and the branch looks like this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/lucid/gnome-disk-utility/gnome-disk-utility-fix-414107/revision/23 what am I doing wrong?
[19:28] <tumbleweed> om26er: did you bzr add the patch ?
[19:33] <ari-tczew> lool: libsmbios 2.2.26 already available in maverick. you can merge package in Debian.
[19:33] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: thanks for sponsoring ^^
[19:33] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: the package isn't in great shape
[19:33] <tumbleweed> but I think it's ok
[19:38] <lfaraone> Pyabiword is FTBFS in configure with "checking whether pythonstamp-autotools version >= 2.3... configure: error: too old". I have no idea what pythonstamp is, grepping for it in the source shows nothing, and googling for it only shows up the bug report I submitted to LP. What is this, exactly?
[19:41] <lfaraone> (when running ./configure on lucid, there is no mention of pythonstamp)
[19:49] <MichealH> What is MOTU?
[19:49] <lfaraone> !motu | MichealH
[19:49] <ubottu> MichealH: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[19:50] <MichealH> Okay... So how would I package and upload toUniverse?
[19:51] <lfaraone> MichealH: well, is it a package that already exists in Ubuntu, or is it a new package?
[19:51] <shadeslayer> MichealH: you cant directly
[19:51] <shadeslayer> you need a sponsor :D
[19:51] <MichealH> And how would I sponsor or get a sponsor
[19:51] <lfaraone> MichealH: what shadeslayer said. but the way to seek sponsorship is different depending on which.
[19:51] <jasem> tried to upload a package to my ppa but got this in the email: The source libindi - 0.6.2-0ubuntu1 is already accepted in ubuntu/maverick and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution
[19:52] <lfaraone> jasem: you need to give it a later version number.
[19:52] <BlackZ> hey lfaraone
[19:52] <lfaraone> hey BlackZ
[19:52] <jasem> lfaraone: why? I just make it 0.6.2, the one in ubuntu is 0.6.2 and I check launchpad also
[19:52] <MichealH> shadeslayer: How would I sponsor or "Get a sponsor?"
[19:52] <jasem> sorry, the one in maverick is 0.6.1
[19:53] <lfaraone> jasem: right, it needs to be gt that in maverick.
[19:53] <shadeslayer> MichealH: yep, if the package is already in ubuntu then you need a sponsor who will upload to the correct archive,if its a new package you will have to upload to revu to get your package reviewed
[19:53] <BlackZ> MichealH: is it a new package or an existing package?
[19:53] <lfaraone> jasem: did you already upload that version to the PPA?
[19:53] <lfaraone> BlackZ: already asked that :)
[19:53] <shadeslayer> hehe
[19:53] <BlackZ> lfaraone: I seen ;)
[19:54] <MichealH> BlackZ: I want to help by patching existing packages
[19:54] <MichealH> Or updating them...
[19:54] <BlackZ> MichealH: if it's an existing package please follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess ; if it's a new package please follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[19:54] <jasem> lfaraone: Yes, I tried to upload it to my ppa but I got that email message instead. I tried several times before that because there were no email messages at all.
[19:54] <lfaraone> jasem: check if it's in your PPA already :)
[19:54] <BlackZ> MichealH: well, so I think you should start to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted
[19:55] <MichealH> Ok
[19:55] <BlackZ> if you have any questions, just ask here
[19:55] <jasem> lfaraone: I checked a bazillion time! https://edge.launchpad.net/~mutlaqja/+archive/ppa
[19:55] <BlackZ> if somebody knows your problem and is around you will probably get an answer
[19:56] <lfaraone> jasem: odd. ask in #launchpad.
[19:56] <jasem> ok will do that
[19:57] <shadeslayer> ok.. im a bit confused, in https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop , where did the karmic release go ? 0_o
[19:58] <tumbleweed> shadeslayer: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop/+publishinghistory
[19:58] <shadeslayer> ah thanks
[20:04] <lfaraone> Hm... It looks like pyabiword's ./configure is being regenerated during the build. Damned if I can find out where. Anybody have an idea? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/pyabiword/maverick/annotate/head:/debian/rules
[20:04] <BlackZ> lfaraone: new version of pytrainer won't run, any suggestion on it?
[20:05] <lfaraone> BlackZ: what does it do when it doens't run, beside not run? :D
[20:05] <BlackZ> lfaraone: from command line I get some stuff, from the menù it simply does not run
[20:05] <BlackZ> s/menù/menu
[20:05] <BlackZ> let me find it, hold on
[20:06] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: I'm busy looking at it
[20:06] <BlackZ> lfaraone: try to apply http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51041026/pytrainer_1.7.2-1ubuntu1.debdiff on the debian package, install it and try to run it
[20:07] <lfaraone> BlackZ: right now I'm a bit swamped trying to un-foul-up pyabiword, or I would. :(
[20:07] <BlackZ> (if you could try with the debian package too, it would be nice)
[20:07] <BlackZ> OK, will try tonight
[20:10] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: I can tell you what the bug is, but not the fix
[20:11] <lfaraone> tumbleweed: yeah, I saw "PYTHON=pythonstamp-autotools" in the log , is that what you mean?
[20:11] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: the bug is that configure doesn't know about python2.6
[20:12] <tumbleweed> (I think)
[20:12] <BlackZ> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lmms/0.4.5-0ubuntu3 any idea on that? it FTBFS in the latest test rebuild: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi
[20:15] <mr_pouit> lfaraone: try not to the shipped python.m4 copy
[20:15] <mr_pouit> *not to use
[20:16] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: easy solution
[20:16] <tumbleweed> use the system python-autotools.mk instead of the embedded one
[20:16] <c_korn> will packages.ubuntu.com ever be updated to maverick ?
[20:17] <tumbleweed> good question, known bug :/
[20:18] <BlackZ> the solution is to mail the webmaster there
[20:18] <BlackZ> but I think a lot of people already did that
[20:18] <c_korn> I hope he is just busy and not that something bad happened to him
[20:19] <geser> BlackZ: try if adding "using namespace stk;" after the includes in the .h file fixes it
[20:21] <BlackZ> geser: I'll try, thanks
[20:37] <raywang> hi, for anyone who knows me, please take 1 min to write a comment or testimonials for me on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RayWang , I'm going to apply a ubuntu contributing developer, it's much appreciated!!! :-)
[20:38] <raywang> oops, it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RayWang/UbuntuContributingDeveloperApplication
[20:39] <raywang> thanks a lot for anyone who has a little time to write on a comment on  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RayWang/UbuntuContributingDeveloperApplication for applying ubuntu contributing developer,
[20:40] <ari-tczew> raywang: I see no packages uploaded to Ubuntu on your LP page.
[20:41] <raywang> ari-tczew, well, they are from debian
[20:41] <raywang> ari-tczew, try to search mono-uia from packages.ubuntu.com
[20:41] <raywang> use source package name
[20:41] <raywang> ari-tczew, thanks for reading! :-)
[20:43] <ari-tczew> raywang: I'm already Ubuntu Contributing Developer so I can review your work whether you should be
[20:43] <tumbleweed> raywang: yes, you should probably link to your debian QA page
[20:43] <raywang> ah, ok, thanks, I'll do it.
[20:44] <ari-tczew>   * add licenses of debian/*.
[20:44] <ari-tczew> that's all?
[20:45] <raywang> ari-tczew, what?
[20:45] <raywang> I have changed my email address once
[20:46] <ari-tczew> raywang: I want see more your work.
[20:47] <raywang> yes, will provide my qa page shortly. :)
[20:47] <ari-tczew> at this moment you can get only -1 from me
[20:51] <raywang> ari-tczew, hehe I'm sorry
[20:51] <raywang> ari-tczew, here is my qa page, http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=rawang%40novell.com
[20:52] <raywang> ari-tczew, and this one is for another email address, http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=wanglei1123%40gmail.com
[20:52] <tumbleweed> raywang: without much evidence of ubuntu-packaging contributions, you might find it easier to get ubuntu membership through your regional membership board
[20:52] <ari-tczew> raywang: debian qa pages, nice, but you're going to _ubuntu_ contributing developer.
[20:53] <raywang> well, those packages that I plan to package for Ubuntu initially, but some developer suggested me to package for debian, and sync them to ubuntu
[20:54] <raywang> so for ubuntu qa page, there is not a link to my qa page :(
[20:55] <ari-tczew> raywang: and he good suggests you, but if you want to join Ubuntu Development environment, you should really contribute to ubuntu
[20:55] <BlackZ> raywang: the best way is to get them in debian for get them in ubuntu as well, what we are saying is to work on ubuntu packages (merges, bugfix, etc.)
[20:55] <ari-tczew> syncs, merges, security updates, ftbfs fixes
[20:55] <raywang> oh, i see
[20:58] <tumbleweed> raywang: yeah, contributing to debian is fantastic, but you intend to join MOTU and MOTUs work on lots of packages, not just their own
[20:59] <tumbleweed> so you need to show that you are actually doing that :)
[21:00] <raywang> yes, I'm more clear now, thanks all of you, I'll try my best to be more competent for being a ubuntu contributing developer
[21:00] <BlackZ> raywang: if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask here
[21:00] <raywang> I will be see you guys sooner or later again. :-)
[21:00] <raywang> sure, thanks a lot! :)
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[21:51] <fabrice_sp> micahg, about #375196
[21:51] <fabrice_sp> bug 375196
[21:51] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 375196 in Ubuntu "Please sync doctrine (1.2.2-1) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/375196
[21:51] <fabrice_sp> it FTBFS
[21:51] <micahg> fabrice_sp: hmm, I tried it for Lucid, I guess I didn't try it for maverick, please unsubscribe sponsors and I will look into it
[21:52] <fabrice_sp> as you want: I just put it as incomplete
[21:52] <fabrice_sp> but I also can unsubscribe sponsors
[21:52] <micahg> fabrice_sp: oh, if that holds other people from wasting time on it, that's fine, thanks
[21:52] <fabrice_sp> yep
[21:52] <fabrice_sp> :-)
[21:52] <micahg> fabrice_sp: great, I'll try to get it fixed this weekend :)
[21:53] <micahg> fabrice_sp: sorry for the troube;l
[21:53] <micahg> *trouble
[21:53] <fabrice_sp> perfect ;-) as the number is quite old, few people will check it anyway :-)
[21:53] <fabrice_sp> np: it happens ;-)
[21:53] <micahg> the ITP was open for a long while and just hit sid
[21:54] <fabrice_sp> that's why the bug report is so old
[21:55] <micahg> fabrice_sp: I filed the needs packaging bug as soon as I started using it :)
[21:56] <fabrice_sp> more than one year ago, then :-)
[21:56] <micahg> yep :)
[21:56] <micahg> it's amazing how many bugs are filed in LP in 1 yr
[21:57] <sebner> micahg: amazing = depressing? ;P
[21:57] <fabrice_sp> yeah: that's why we are not able to close them all :-)
[21:57] <fabrice_sp> lol
[21:57] <micahg> well, at least the number is holding steady around 80-85k
[21:58] <micahg> that's progress, I think it was increasing 10k/release before
[21:58] <micahg> for open bugs
[22:03] <micahg> fabrice_sp: I wonder if it FTBFS in ubuntu and not debian because of the PHP update in sid?
[22:04] <fabrice_sp> it may be, yes. Anyway, only one test fails
[22:38] <ari-tczew> !SRU
[22:38] <ubottu> Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[23:07] <BlackZ> geser: adding "using namespace stk;" after the includes fixed the FTBFS, thanks!