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IdleOneI also believe it takes a little evil in you to be a good op.00:00
IdleOnehehe if that makes any sense00:00
Niglopikonia:00:24
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, LjL said: !insult is in general not approved of or condoned, but if you feel like insulting mc44, we really don't feel like you should be stopped.00:34
knomewhat00:35
Picijust ljl00:35
funkyHatheh00:35
knomeif that's taken lightly, i don't wonder why some people argue about getting different level of treatment00:36
knomei mean, even if it's a joke and so on...00:36
knomenight.00:49
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Niglopcan i appeal my ban02:55
IdleOnewho do I make a suggestion about a BT feature?03:06
IdleOnerather where03:06
PiciIdleOne: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots03:15
IdleOnethank you03:15
IdleOnePici: the ban tracker is part of ubuntu-bots?03:15
IdleOneI guess so :)03:16
Piciyes03:16
IdleOnethanks, feature request submitted03:23
nhandlerI'm doing some autobleh work, and I figured I'd ask if there were any features/changes people would like to see made03:25
IdleOnemake it work with xchat03:27
IdleOne:)03:27
nhandlerDoesn't xchat have chanserv.py or something similar ?03:31
IdleOneyes03:32
ubottuslidinghorn called the ops in #ubuntu (Onetimer Racism)03:32
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from onetimer)03:39
macoi removed onetimer03:42
nhandlermaco: Why? He didn't make any real racist comments since I quieted and talked to him03:42
IdleOnehe is also in -es being a troll03:42
maconhandler: oh i didnt realised youd talked to him. sorry03:42
nhandlermaco: No problem. I didn't make a big deal out of it. He was actually very curteous in PM.03:43
IdleOne-es needs some help onetimer and vgs21 trolling, racist comments.04:11
IdleOnealso spamming that forum04:14
IdleOnethere doesn't appear to be any channel ops around04:14
* nhandler is too tired to translate and follow the discussion to be able to make a good judgement in there04:22
IdleOnenhandler: I don't suppose my word is enough. you can ask MaRk-I who is in there also04:23
nhandlerIdleOne: Well, I'm not directly on the access list there (only through IRCC), so I would prefer to be a bit more certain. Let me see if I can find a named channel op for there04:24
ubottuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-irc (Onetimer cursing in Spanish)05:03
IdleOnedid not realize I had ops there also05:04
IdleOnethank you maco05:04
FlannelWhat a lovely fellow.07:05
KB1JWQFlannel: Which?07:14
FlannelKB1JWQ: _E_MIke07:15
[Screamo]What codec/plugin do i need to play m4a files?07:44
[Screamo]arg07:44
[Screamo]why am i in here>.>07:44
indushi08:34
KB1JWQHello.08:34
indusiam here to resolve my ban08:35
indusikonia, hi08:36
indusanyone active in here?08:41
bazhangindus, hi08:42
indushi bazhang,08:42
bazhangindus, how may we help you08:42
indusi have a ban i would like to resolve08:42
indusif some op could help with this, i would appreciate it08:42
bazhangindus, you know why you were banned?08:43
indusyes08:43
indusfor not listening to an op08:43
indusbazhang,08:48
bazhangindus, there seems to be an issue with you following channel rules; i.e. not just this one instance08:49
indusok08:50
indusi have been kicked 2 times including this time if i remember right08:51
indusother than that, i have heeded warnings, including recent one from you if you remember08:51
indusi can only assure you, my intentions are never to knowingly disrupt the channel08:52
bazhangyou agree then that the channel rules and guidelines are not up for debate?08:53
indusi need some clarification on that08:53
indusis user input taken for the guidelines?08:54
indusif its not up for debate i can live with that sure08:54
indusalso, i dont have a problem per se with the guidelines, i think they are ok08:55
bazhangit's clearly stated in the guidelines and the code of conduct08:55
indusyes08:55
indusi promise, if i have a question on the guidelines, i would not disrupt channel but clarify it hhere08:56
indusand also, i have been made to understand, to listen to an op at all times08:56
bazhangyou can /msg ubottu guidelines and /msg ubottu coc for clarification08:56
indusok08:57
industhanks08:57
bazhangcoming here to debate the guidelines or code of conduct is not what this channel is about08:57
indusok08:57
indusi will read it08:57
bazhangplease take a moment to read them both, just so there is clarity on these points08:58
indusi have read them before too08:59
indusbut there is a line If you disagree with the decision of an operator, then talk to that operator about it in a polite manner.08:59
indusbut i guess we can argue both ways on that08:59
bazhangsuch as? what kind of decision are you referring to?08:59
indusnothing ,maybe iam just sore due to the kick09:00
indusbut i now understand i violated one of the guidelines09:00
indusof not listening to an op so fair enough i guess09:01
bazhangit's not one op targeting you or some such09:01
indusi argued with him in #ubuntu09:01
industrue09:01
bazhangthe channel is a shared resource, and we try to keep it running as smoothly as possible09:02
indusi know bazhang , and you know, my intentions are always to help in there09:02
bazhangthat's why we insist people keep the noise (chat) to #ubuntu-offtopic , and support in #ubuntu09:02
indusbut i guess the kicks in a way help you learn more restraint09:03
indusi understand bazhang09:06
bazhangindus, try to /join #ubuntu  , and please obey the channel guidelines and code of conduct in future, thanks.09:08
indusbazhang, thank you09:08
indusbazhang, i have 2 ips banned is both lifted09:08
industhis one and one more last night09:09
bazhangindus, you tried joining yet?09:09
indusyes still banned this one09:09
bazhangindus,  try now please09:11
indusah yes works now09:11
indusok thank you09:11
bazhangokay09:11
indusbye09:11
bazhangsee you09:11
indusyes see you around09:11
indusalso, i forward apologies to ikonia09:12
ikoniahowdy rocket1611:08
rocket16Hello respected operators,11:08
ikoniarocket16: how can we help today ?11:08
rocket16ikonia: Fine, thanks, :)11:08
rocket16ikonia: I need a suggeston, friend.11:08
ikoniaplease ask11:09
rocket16That is, I heard from some people, that in our custom channels, we can't use any term related to Ubuntu, is it so?11:09
ikoniawhat channel ?11:10
rocket16I mean, like #ubundu-india-users won't be allowed to continue, according to what I heard. Is this information correct?11:10
ikoniawnad what sort of terms (can you give me some examples)11:10
ikoniarocket16: let me guess, has this come from Indus ?11:10
rocket16ikonia: I mean, the new channels we created on Freenode, :)11:10
rocket16ikonia: Sure, I mean, the names of channels with the word "Ubuntu".11:11
rocket16ikonia: Like, #ubuntuindia or #ubuntuusers11:11
ikoniarocket16: the #ubuntu-* name space is controlled by the Ubuntu IRC channels, so if you want to make an ubuntu channel then you'll need to speak tot he ubuntu IRC council11:11
ikoniarocket16: you know there is #ubuntu-in ?11:11
ikoniawhich is the official ubuntu india loco channel11:12
rocket16ikonia: Yes, :) I joined already, but most of the time, it remains quiet.11:12
ikoniarocket16: so how would creating another indian channel fix that ?11:12
rocket16ikonia: Thanks for the information, friend. That was what I intended to know, :) really thanks for the help.11:12
rocket16ikonia: Well, I did not think of creating another channel like Ubuntu-india, I just was thinking of creating a new one, and assigning a name to it, :)11:13
ikoniaah ok11:13
ikoniarocket16: did Indus tell you this ?11:13
rocket16ikonia: Since #ubuntu is trademarked, so I'd assign a new name to it. Thanks for the help, friend.11:14
ikoniarocket16: could you please answer the question11:14
rocket16ikonia: Indus? Is this the nickname of any person? If so, he hadn't,11:14
ikoniaok, thank you11:14
rocket16ikonia: I didn't talk to anyone named Indus here,11:14
ikoniahe queried similar query11:14
ikoniaso I wondered if he had told you the wrong info11:14
rocket16ikonia: Thanks friend. See you again, :) bye.11:14
ikoniawelcome11:14
rocket16Bye all operators, :) thanks.11:14
* gnomefreak doesnt believe him11:15
ikoniaI don't either11:15
ikoniathe odds of indus being upset about this, then the next day another indian user query it are not good11:15
gnomefreakIndus? Is this the nickname of any  person?   is what bothers me after he dodged the ? every time you asked. but nothing can be done exept look, for a channel11:17
ikoniaI know they know each other as I watched them talk in #ubuntu-in11:18
gnomefreakwhy dont them make an -in-ot without the #ubuntu part11:18
ikoniathey don't need one11:19
gnomefreakor ask for official -ot channel11:19
ikonia#ubuntu-in has some solid users11:19
gnomefreakoh11:19
ikoniait's an open discussion channel any way11:19
gnomefreakso they want a channel without ops in it. i thought there were a few of them11:19
ikoniaI didn't think they wanted a channel with out ops11:21
ikoniadid I miss-read that ?11:21
gnomefreaki was thinking since they wanted another channel that was a way for them to to get around his ban11:28
gnomefreakso they can speak freely without worrying about being banned11:29
bazhanghis bans are removed (indus)11:34
h00kKaoS``: how can we help you?14:27
Piciikonia: poke14:31
Picih00k: ikonia has forwarded all of shellium here for some reason.14:33
h00kah, that's right. there were some problems with that, I remember that now14:33
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ikoniaPici: poke back14:45
Piciikonia: So... shellium14:46
ikoniaI'm drafting a wiki page at the moment for a communication method between us/shellium if there are problem users14:46
Piciikonia: But all shellium hosts are forwarded here right now.14:46
ikoniathe admin team from shellium have been very helpful and are very keen to not have their resources explited14:46
ikoniayes, I put that forward on while it was being worked through, I'd manually granted a few exmpts, as the shellium throughput was low beyond problem users it was an easy process to manage14:47
ikoniaI'm putting an agenda on the next irccc to discuss these open shell servers and how/why they are treated differently from things like web chat14:47
ikoniait will be all documented and resolved before the weekend14:48
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ubottuBluesKaj called the ops in #kubuntu (amigad)15:25
highvoltageI'm finally identified again \o/15:25
* nhandler talks to amigad15:25
bazhangno voice though. weird15:25
jussipeoples, if you use chanserv, please note it in here so we know who did it?15:26
nhandlerIt was noted. And I was just thinking, would anyone else find it useful to have ubottu report new bans/quiets as they are set in here? That way, people could quickly see that a ! o p s call was actioned.15:28
ikoniaplease no15:29
nixternalnhandler: why talk to amigad? he didn't even do anything to warrant the +q....he was helping, said a couple of things being kind of funny15:33
nixternaltis the reason I did the -q15:33
nixternalstop being anal ops :p15:33
nhandlernixternal: Because I didn't see those earlier messages. I just saw a couple questionable messages there and an OPs call. Note that it was a simple quiet with a PM, not a kickban or anything like that.15:34
nixternalstill, an anal move in my eyes..don't make me hunt you down and steal your bike!15:36
nixternaldon't make me come over to the grove...not my kind of ghetto, but I will if I have to :p15:37
nhandler:)15:37
nixternali woke up to early this morning...don't have anything to do really until this evening...should just go for a ride I guess15:46
h00knixternal: you tweeted/dented something hilarious the other day, I just forget what it was.15:49
nixternalprobably a good thing that you forgot :)15:49
h00knixternal: it wasn't the mac/iphone rant, but it was similar.15:50
nixternalmactards > freetards?15:51
h00kyeah, it wasn't that one,15:51
nixternalhehe15:51
nixternalnhandler: I am hungry, buy me lunch!15:51
h00kI think it was the Eris/Pants one.15:51
nixternaldamn, it is only 10am15:51
h00ksays the internet stalker. I'm not odd, I swear :(15:52
nixternaloh...yeah, i got quite a few DMs on that one... a couple from Verizon, a couple from Htc...they loved it15:52
h00khahaha15:52
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ikoniachum_chum in ubuntu is a known problem user under another nick16:16
ikoniaI can't remember which one though16:16
IdleOneikonia: he is responding to someone who told him to use clamav16:17
ikoniayes, I know that, but I'm trying to remember his other nicks16:17
IdleOneHello experiMENTAL16:30
experiMENTALhi16:30
IdleOneyou had questions about the channel rules?16:30
experiMENTALis it against channel rules if i'll ask same question like 1 time an hour?16:30
IdleOneno16:31
experiMENTALty16:31
IdleOneprovided it is on topic16:31
IdleOneexperiMENTAL: was there anything else?16:32
experiMENTALcan you see my question on ubuntu channel?16:34
IdleOneexperiMENTAL: If that is all please part this channel, we have a no idling rule. Thank you.16:34
IdleOneyes I saw your question16:34
experiMENTALty. bye16:34
IdleOneikonia: do KaoS`` and zz_b0w need exempts?16:34
ikoniaactually, I'll remove the forward now I have a process in place16:35
IdleOneok16:35
ikoniadone16:36
IdleOneKaoS`` and zz_b0w you should now be able to join #ubuntu. Please part this channel.16:36
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, Seveas-train said: !u =~ s/'l8'/'l8r'/16:47
IdleOneadded a mark for tPl0ch has quit (Quit: My balls are itching, need a wash...)17:08
ikoniathere is no forward in place now17:42
ikonia(hasn't been since ove an hour ago17:42
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octavioHello, I appear as banned from #ubuntu, but dont know the reason, i usually make use of #lubuntu and #ubuntu-es but not that channel. I think someone has been using my nick (octavio wasn't registered but was in use so i came to #freenode to get it registered for me).22:01
ikoniaoctavio: 1 moment22:02
ikoniaoctavio: what channel22:02
ikoniafrom #ubuntu ?22:02
octavioyes22:02
ikoniaahhh22:09
ikoniayou're not banned22:09
ikoniayou're using web chat22:09
ikoniawebchat should forward you to #ubuntu-proxy-users but for some reason it's not22:09
octaviooh thats the problem lol :)22:09
ikoniaif you manually join that channel, the bot will allow you to join #ubuntu22:09
octavioit is ok if i use chatzilla? (firefox add-on)22:10
ikoniasure22:11
octavioWell it just work thank you ikonia22:11
octaviogreetings from Sonora, Mexico :)22:12
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