[00:00] I also believe it takes a little evil in you to be a good op. [00:00] hehe if that makes any sense [00:24] ikonia: [00:34] In #ubuntu-offtopic, LjL said: !insult is in general not approved of or condoned, but if you feel like insulting mc44, we really don't feel like you should be stopped. [00:35] what [00:35] just ljl [00:35] heh [00:36] if that's taken lightly, i don't wonder why some people argue about getting different level of treatment [00:36] i mean, even if it's a joke and so on... [00:49] night. === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [02:55] can i appeal my ban [03:06] who do I make a suggestion about a BT feature? [03:06] rather where [03:15] IdleOne: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [03:15] thank you [03:15] Pici: the ban tracker is part of ubuntu-bots? [03:16] I guess so :) [03:16] yes [03:23] thanks, feature request submitted [03:25] I'm doing some autobleh work, and I figured I'd ask if there were any features/changes people would like to see made [03:27] make it work with xchat [03:27] :) [03:31] Doesn't xchat have chanserv.py or something similar ? [03:32] yes [03:32] slidinghorn called the ops in #ubuntu (Onetimer Racism) [03:39] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from onetimer) [03:42] i removed onetimer [03:42] maco: Why? He didn't make any real racist comments since I quieted and talked to him [03:42] he is also in -es being a troll [03:42] nhandler: oh i didnt realised youd talked to him. sorry [03:43] maco: No problem. I didn't make a big deal out of it. He was actually very curteous in PM. [04:11] -es needs some help onetimer and vgs21 trolling, racist comments. [04:14] also spamming that forum [04:14] there doesn't appear to be any channel ops around [04:22] * nhandler is too tired to translate and follow the discussion to be able to make a good judgement in there [04:23] nhandler: I don't suppose my word is enough. you can ask MaRk-I who is in there also [04:24] IdleOne: Well, I'm not directly on the access list there (only through IRCC), so I would prefer to be a bit more certain. Let me see if I can find a named channel op for there [05:03] IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu-irc (Onetimer cursing in Spanish) [05:04] did not realize I had ops there also [05:04] thank you maco [07:05] What a lovely fellow. [07:14] Flannel: Which? [07:15] KB1JWQ: _E_MIke [07:44] <[Screamo]> What codec/plugin do i need to play m4a files? [07:44] <[Screamo]> arg [07:44] <[Screamo]> why am i in here>.> [08:34] hi [08:34] Hello. [08:35] iam here to resolve my ban [08:36] ikonia, hi [08:41] anyone active in here? [08:42] indus, hi [08:42] hi bazhang, [08:42] indus, how may we help you [08:42] i have a ban i would like to resolve [08:42] if some op could help with this, i would appreciate it [08:43] indus, you know why you were banned? [08:43] yes [08:43] for not listening to an op [08:48] bazhang, [08:49] indus, there seems to be an issue with you following channel rules; i.e. not just this one instance [08:50] ok [08:51] i have been kicked 2 times including this time if i remember right [08:51] other than that, i have heeded warnings, including recent one from you if you remember [08:52] i can only assure you, my intentions are never to knowingly disrupt the channel [08:53] you agree then that the channel rules and guidelines are not up for debate? [08:53] i need some clarification on that [08:54] is user input taken for the guidelines? [08:54] if its not up for debate i can live with that sure [08:55] also, i dont have a problem per se with the guidelines, i think they are ok [08:55] it's clearly stated in the guidelines and the code of conduct [08:55] yes [08:56] i promise, if i have a question on the guidelines, i would not disrupt channel but clarify it hhere [08:56] and also, i have been made to understand, to listen to an op at all times [08:56] you can /msg ubottu guidelines and /msg ubottu coc for clarification [08:57] ok [08:57] thanks [08:57] coming here to debate the guidelines or code of conduct is not what this channel is about [08:57] ok [08:57] i will read it [08:58] please take a moment to read them both, just so there is clarity on these points [08:59] i have read them before too [08:59] but there is a line If you disagree with the decision of an operator, then talk to that operator about it in a polite manner. [08:59] but i guess we can argue both ways on that [08:59] such as? what kind of decision are you referring to? [09:00] nothing ,maybe iam just sore due to the kick [09:00] but i now understand i violated one of the guidelines [09:01] of not listening to an op so fair enough i guess [09:01] it's not one op targeting you or some such [09:01] i argued with him in #ubuntu [09:01] true [09:02] the channel is a shared resource, and we try to keep it running as smoothly as possible [09:02] i know bazhang , and you know, my intentions are always to help in there [09:02] that's why we insist people keep the noise (chat) to #ubuntu-offtopic , and support in #ubuntu [09:03] but i guess the kicks in a way help you learn more restraint [09:06] i understand bazhang [09:08] indus, try to /join #ubuntu , and please obey the channel guidelines and code of conduct in future, thanks. [09:08] bazhang, thank you [09:08] bazhang, i have 2 ips banned is both lifted [09:09] this one and one more last night [09:09] indus, you tried joining yet? [09:09] yes still banned this one [09:11] indus, try now please [09:11] ah yes works now [09:11] ok thank you [09:11] okay [09:11] bye [09:11] see you [09:11] yes see you around [09:12] also, i forward apologies to ikonia [11:08] howdy rocket16 [11:08] Hello respected operators, [11:08] rocket16: how can we help today ? [11:08] ikonia: Fine, thanks, :) [11:08] ikonia: I need a suggeston, friend. [11:09] please ask [11:09] That is, I heard from some people, that in our custom channels, we can't use any term related to Ubuntu, is it so? [11:10] what channel ? [11:10] I mean, like #ubundu-india-users won't be allowed to continue, according to what I heard. Is this information correct? [11:10] wnad what sort of terms (can you give me some examples) [11:10] rocket16: let me guess, has this come from Indus ? [11:10] ikonia: I mean, the new channels we created on Freenode, :) [11:11] ikonia: Sure, I mean, the names of channels with the word "Ubuntu". [11:11] ikonia: Like, #ubuntuindia or #ubuntuusers [11:11] rocket16: the #ubuntu-* name space is controlled by the Ubuntu IRC channels, so if you want to make an ubuntu channel then you'll need to speak tot he ubuntu IRC council [11:11] rocket16: you know there is #ubuntu-in ? [11:12] which is the official ubuntu india loco channel [11:12] ikonia: Yes, :) I joined already, but most of the time, it remains quiet. [11:12] rocket16: so how would creating another indian channel fix that ? [11:12] ikonia: Thanks for the information, friend. That was what I intended to know, :) really thanks for the help. [11:13] ikonia: Well, I did not think of creating another channel like Ubuntu-india, I just was thinking of creating a new one, and assigning a name to it, :) [11:13] ah ok [11:13] rocket16: did Indus tell you this ? [11:14] ikonia: Since #ubuntu is trademarked, so I'd assign a new name to it. Thanks for the help, friend. [11:14] rocket16: could you please answer the question [11:14] ikonia: Indus? Is this the nickname of any person? If so, he hadn't, [11:14] ok, thank you [11:14] ikonia: I didn't talk to anyone named Indus here, [11:14] he queried similar query [11:14] so I wondered if he had told you the wrong info [11:14] ikonia: Thanks friend. See you again, :) bye. [11:14] welcome [11:14] Bye all operators, :) thanks. [11:15] * gnomefreak doesnt believe him [11:15] I don't either [11:15] the odds of indus being upset about this, then the next day another indian user query it are not good [11:17] Indus? Is this the nickname of any person? is what bothers me after he dodged the ? every time you asked. but nothing can be done exept look, for a channel [11:18] I know they know each other as I watched them talk in #ubuntu-in [11:18] why dont them make an -in-ot without the #ubuntu part [11:19] they don't need one [11:19] or ask for official -ot channel [11:19] #ubuntu-in has some solid users [11:19] oh [11:19] it's an open discussion channel any way [11:19] so they want a channel without ops in it. i thought there were a few of them [11:21] I didn't think they wanted a channel with out ops [11:21] did I miss-read that ? [11:28] i was thinking since they wanted another channel that was a way for them to to get around his ban [11:29] so they can speak freely without worrying about being banned [11:34] his bans are removed (indus) [14:27] KaoS``: how can we help you? [14:31] ikonia: poke [14:33] h00k: ikonia has forwarded all of shellium here for some reason. [14:33] ah, that's right. there were some problems with that, I remember that now === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey [14:45] Pici: poke back [14:46] ikonia: So... shellium [14:46] I'm drafting a wiki page at the moment for a communication method between us/shellium if there are problem users [14:46] ikonia: But all shellium hosts are forwarded here right now. [14:46] the admin team from shellium have been very helpful and are very keen to not have their resources explited [14:47] yes, I put that forward on while it was being worked through, I'd manually granted a few exmpts, as the shellium throughput was low beyond problem users it was an easy process to manage [14:47] I'm putting an agenda on the next irccc to discuss these open shell servers and how/why they are treated differently from things like web chat [14:48] it will be all documented and resolved before the weekend === popey_ is now known as popey [15:25] BluesKaj called the ops in #kubuntu (amigad) [15:25] I'm finally identified again \o/ [15:25] * nhandler talks to amigad [15:25] no voice though. weird [15:26] peoples, if you use chanserv, please note it in here so we know who did it? [15:28] It was noted. And I was just thinking, would anyone else find it useful to have ubottu report new bans/quiets as they are set in here? That way, people could quickly see that a ! o p s call was actioned. [15:29] please no [15:33] nhandler: why talk to amigad? he didn't even do anything to warrant the +q....he was helping, said a couple of things being kind of funny [15:33] tis the reason I did the -q [15:33] stop being anal ops :p [15:34] nixternal: Because I didn't see those earlier messages. I just saw a couple questionable messages there and an OPs call. Note that it was a simple quiet with a PM, not a kickban or anything like that. [15:36] still, an anal move in my eyes..don't make me hunt you down and steal your bike! [15:37] don't make me come over to the grove...not my kind of ghetto, but I will if I have to :p [15:37] :) [15:46] i woke up to early this morning...don't have anything to do really until this evening...should just go for a ride I guess [15:49] nixternal: you tweeted/dented something hilarious the other day, I just forget what it was. [15:49] probably a good thing that you forgot :) [15:50] nixternal: it wasn't the mac/iphone rant, but it was similar. [15:51] mactards > freetards? [15:51] yeah, it wasn't that one, [15:51] hehe [15:51] nhandler: I am hungry, buy me lunch! [15:51] I think it was the Eris/Pants one. [15:51] damn, it is only 10am [15:52] says the internet stalker. I'm not odd, I swear :( [15:52] oh...yeah, i got quite a few DMs on that one... a couple from Verizon, a couple from Htc...they loved it [15:52] hahaha === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [16:16] chum_chum in ubuntu is a known problem user under another nick [16:16] I can't remember which one though [16:17] ikonia: he is responding to someone who told him to use clamav [16:17] yes, I know that, but I'm trying to remember his other nicks [16:30] Hello experiMENTAL [16:30] hi [16:30] you had questions about the channel rules? [16:30] is it against channel rules if i'll ask same question like 1 time an hour? [16:31] no [16:31] ty [16:31] provided it is on topic [16:32] experiMENTAL: was there anything else? [16:34] can you see my question on ubuntu channel? [16:34] experiMENTAL: If that is all please part this channel, we have a no idling rule. Thank you. [16:34] yes I saw your question [16:34] ty. bye [16:34] ikonia: do KaoS`` and zz_b0w need exempts? [16:35] actually, I'll remove the forward now I have a process in place [16:35] ok [16:36] done [16:36] KaoS`` and zz_b0w you should now be able to join #ubuntu. Please part this channel. [16:47] In #ubuntu-offtopic, Seveas-train said: !u =~ s/'l8'/'l8r'/ [17:08] added a mark for tPl0ch has quit (Quit: My balls are itching, need a wash...) [17:42] there is no forward in place now [17:42] (hasn't been since ove an hour ago === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [22:01] Hello, I appear as banned from #ubuntu, but dont know the reason, i usually make use of #lubuntu and #ubuntu-es but not that channel. I think someone has been using my nick (octavio wasn't registered but was in use so i came to #freenode to get it registered for me). [22:02] octavio: 1 moment [22:02] octavio: what channel [22:02] from #ubuntu ? [22:02] yes [22:09] ahhh [22:09] you're not banned [22:09] you're using web chat [22:09] webchat should forward you to #ubuntu-proxy-users but for some reason it's not [22:09] oh thats the problem lol :) [22:09] if you manually join that channel, the bot will allow you to join #ubuntu [22:10] it is ok if i use chatzilla? (firefox add-on) [22:11] sure [22:11] Well it just work thank you ikonia [22:12] greetings from Sonora, Mexico :) [23:52] In ubottu, hiddenknowledge said: !help is Hi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots