[00:00] not sure how else i'd unmount it because it's a remote server and the OS (/, /boot, everything) lives there [00:02] pittstains: You should *never* run fsck on a mounted extn filesystem. [00:02] i thought it was safe with the -ns flags [00:02] read-only mode [00:02] am i wrong about that? [00:03] No, that's correct. [00:04] Jordan_U: whew! so any idea about the proper way to repair it, given my circumstances? [00:06] pittstains: I think that even though it's safe, running fsck on a mounted system isn't meaningfull as a mounted FS looks like a broken one (the journal looks like it needs to be replayed, parts of the FS read earlier are inconsistent with parts read later if something changed) [00:07] pittstains: So you can "sudo touch /forcefsck" to cause an fsck to be run at next boot, but don't be too worried about errors from fsck on a mounted fs. [00:08] Jordan_U: thanks for that info. i generally don't work too close to the filesystem, so that's helpful info. however, i think i actually do have a problem: i deleted a large file and dh gives me the same output. [00:08] also, the file deleted instantly.... usually there's a little lag for big files [00:09] Jordan_U: will the forcefsck file be deleted after the next boot? also, which log should I check to see the results of the check? [00:09] pittstains: Do any applications still have the file open? [00:10] good question... it was a log file being written to by Apache (it had grown to 10GB) [00:10] (you can check that by running "sudo fuser /path/where/the/file/was". [00:10] doesn't show up under ls any more.... running fuser now... [00:11] pittstains: In unix files aren't truly deleted untill no references to them exist, that includes hard links and open file handles. [00:12] fuser says no such file or directory... if i restart apache that should close any handles though [00:13] pittstains: Try "sudo lsof | grep /path/to/file" instead. [00:14] lsof not found? [00:14] That's surprising, are you sure you spelled it correctly? [00:16] LSOF, right? [00:16] should be in /usr/bin/ [00:17] oh, i forgot this is a debian box and not ubuntu -- should be the same though, right? [00:18] pittstains: sudo apt-get install lsof, and let's continue this in #debian since it's off topic here. [00:19] thanks, jordan [00:24] looks like ubuntu doesnt support this system [00:24] that sucks [00:25] too old of a dell [00:27] exit === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:30] for anyone who was following my convo with Jordan_U, the reason the file didn't delete is that Apache was still using it. restarting Apache freed up the file to be deleted, and df now reports as expected. [00:33] I'm trying to Kickstart a server but getting "bad archive mirror" w/ us.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, any ideas? [00:35] DukeOfMilan: It's us.archive.ubuntu.com [00:36] DukeOfMilan: Which are part of the US is the server physical based? [00:37] Right, sorry--typed it wrong. This is what I'm using: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [00:37] SF Bay area [00:37] That should work. [00:38] Here's the line from ks.cfg: [00:38] url --url http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [00:38] DukeOfMilan: You might want to use http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu/ instead however - as that's based in California. [00:39] Hmm, I'll try that, thanks. [00:39] Can I just use it like that in the ks.cfg, or do I need to add: dists/lucid or anything more specific? [00:41] I'm looking for Kickstart documentation on it just to be sure. [00:42] It didn't like the url I was using, and it takes like 15min to get to the part of the install where it fails. [00:44] I'm using "The Official ubuntu Server Book" as a guide, btw. [00:48] DukeOfMilan: As far as I can see, that line should be fine. [00:49] I'm trying: url --url http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu [00:49] I'll know in about 15min if it worked. :) [00:50] DukeOfMilan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=880829 describes what it's trying to do internally. [00:52] jpds: same error message I'm getting, maybe same issue. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [00:57] hi guys when i install ubuntu-server using a sas HDD do i need to laod drivers during the install or no need..? [00:57] ruben23, if it works, then no [00:58] "installing drivers" is basically a thing of the past [00:58] ok [00:58] either it's in the kernel or it isn't, as long as you run the latest updates [00:59] and if it isn't in the kernel, but does exist, you'd have to compile it yourself anyway, quite the task [01:00] sir jeeves [01:01] hi si rt-kernel used by ubuntu-server studio..? [01:01] my server is access denied [01:01] pls help how to troubleshoot [01:02] anyone pls help [01:03] !details | silentwhisper [01:03] silentwhisper: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [01:05] when i try to browse http://bits.ath.cx [01:05] access denied appears on the screen [01:05] within the network ok [01:05] but outside the network access denied appear [01:06] any used rt kernel on ubutu-server..? [01:07] it been a week i keep receiving this error [01:07] i was able to make right less than a week [01:08] untill access denied appears [01:09] silentwhisper, what software are you using? what do you expect to see? what authentication mechanism is in use? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [01:10] im using ubuntu 10.04 deskstop and installed apache2 [01:10] at local host is says "it works" [01:10] but in the internet error [01:11] silentwhisper, that access denied page is not an apache access denide page [01:11] first make sure that URL is pointing to your server, and that ports are forwarded [01:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/466724/ [01:12] yes sir im using dyndns [01:12] and my port 80 is forwarded [01:12] im using ddclient to update my ip regularly [01:12] this http service is intermittent [01:13] silentwhisper, it is a DNS issue [01:13] accessing your IP works [01:13] http://120.28.128.42/ [01:13] it isn't pointing to your IP [01:13] ;; ANSWER SECTION: [01:13] bits.ath.cx. 60 IN A 222.127.223.69 [01:15] what seems to be the problem sir? [01:15] bits.ath.cx does not point to you [01:16] how can i fix it? [01:16] so it's either the wrong URL, or your dyndns is configured wrong, or you have a dynamic IP and it's not updating [01:16] any number of reasons [01:16] for sure i have dynamic ip [01:17] you need to have a script or service to update the IP information with dyndns [01:17] because my service provide is for home user only [01:17] how can i do that? [01:17] I don't know how to do it with dyndns.org, I use afraid.org myself [01:18] but there should be instructions at dyndns.org [01:18] i'll check on it also [01:22] thanks qman [01:22] i'll try it [01:23] how did you found out my hosts is not redirected correctly to my ip [01:24] the error page that was showing is not an apache error page, it's some other software [01:25] so then I compared the results of `dig bits.ath.cx` to the IP you are chatting from [01:25] and they are different [01:25] I then tested browsing to your IP, which worked [01:26] wow [01:26] thanks [01:26] you can get my ip while were chatting? [01:26] yes [01:27] freenode does not obfuscate them [01:27] /whois me, and you'll se mine [01:27] How do I detach a logical volume (i.e., make it disappear from /dev/mapper)? [01:29] Ah, vgchange -a n . [01:30] i type /whois qman but no output [01:30] /whois qman__ [01:30] "/whois qman" [01:30] and it may not show up on this screen depending on your chat client [01:31] xchat shows it in the 'server' tab [01:31] it does not show up [01:31] ah, you are using xchat [01:31] in that case, you can also right click on my name, and hover it [01:32] and it will show you [01:33] real name,user,country [01:33] yes [01:33] under user, it shows you my IP, though my ISP has reverse DNS so it shows you the name [01:34] reverse dns [01:34] ah [01:35] Hi. I'm having a problem with a GPT formatted boot volume, my server gets a 'boot failure' after the installer has completed installing into the GPT partitions. I'm using 10.04 server. Could anyone suggest a fix or a way to troubleshoot this? [02:37] Does the latest ubuntu server edition do some kind of automatic NIC teaming in a default installation? [03:22] help pls [03:22] i have dynamic ip [03:23] which is the best dns to use and easy to configure [03:26] Any of the ones your PPP/PPPoE/PPPoA client can auto-update [03:27] Since you're probably doing PPPoA on an appliance modem/router with its default proprietary firmware, that set may well be the empty set. [03:32] which is easier to use dydns,no ip,afraid etc [03:32] and which client is easier to configure [03:32] i have a dynamic ip [03:35] Most clients support a large number of providers. [03:42] which client is easier to configure for different dns [03:43] I can't comment on that. [03:47] when you are setting a server using dynamic ip what client you usually use? [03:50] I don't. I have a class C. [03:51] years ago no-ip was pretty easy to use [03:51] havnt used it in 5+ years though [03:51] assume its only gotten easier [03:54] What they all boil down to is a post-ACK hook that issues an HTTP POST with the appropriate username, password and IP fields. [04:06] how can i get a list of network interfaces in a machine (interfaces that currently are not brought up) i.e: i have added a secondary PCI NIC but I am unsure if it is classified by the system as eth1 or something else [04:23] tcw: ip link show === skydrome_ is now known as skydrome === EvilTrek is now known as EvilPhoenix === rmk_ is now known as rmk [05:29] hey guys [05:30] i have a backup system set up using passwordless ssh login. for some reason, if the user disconnect unexpectedly (their internet died) my system only realises the user disconnected after like 2-3 hours [05:30] any idea why is that? [05:30] is it rsyncd or is it sshd or what? [05:33] Because you aren't using -oBatchMode=yes ? [05:33] where?? [05:34] In your .ssh/config or on the command line. [05:34] in the client's ssh client?? [05:34] In whatever is invoking SSH [05:35] and this is a switch in ssh? i'll look it up [05:37] sounds about right, but i still don't understand what it does [05:37] whats password querying?? [05:37] i just want to make sure i'm not making my system more vulnerable my setting this to yes [06:00] hi to all [06:02] i learned setting webserver using apache [06:03] what service i must learn next [06:03] im studying on my own please guide mo [06:03] guide me [06:04] pls === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [06:59] silentwhisper: ssh? it depends what you're interested in? [06:59] samba? [07:08] silentwhisper: what do you want to do? [07:08] silentwhisper: you have php support? mysql? that would be something [07:13] hi folks [07:14] it looks like myu ipv6-only system only tries to look up A records for hostnames instead of AAAA records. is there a setting I need to pass to the resolver to make it look for IPv6 records as well? [07:20] ah, nvm, pebkac. I keep forgetting to use ping6 [07:28] Does lucid's slapd have that weird thing I heard about, where the config is stored *in* the database? [07:37] twb: yes [07:37] twb: but it's not specific to lucid [07:37] Where can I read about that? [07:37] twb: it's the new, "better" way of configuration propagated by the openldap people [07:37] "sudo -ux getent passwd x" fails, but "getent passwd x" works, which indicates there's a missing access parameter -- but on my 8.04 system BOTH work, and it has an identical slapd.conf [07:38] twb: unfortunately, it's still incomplete, e.g. it's not possible to configure the meta-backend through the cn=config interface [07:38] joschi: well, I remember the #openldap people griping about Ubuntu adopting it before it was really ready [07:38] twb: http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin24/slapdconf2.html [07:38] twb: "Unlike previous OpenLDAP releases, the slapd(8) runtime configuration in 2.3 (and later) is fully LDAP-enabled and can be managed using the standard LDAP operations with data in LDIF." [07:39] Does that mean that slapd.conf is not changed at all -- it's simply EXPOSED via the LDAP API? [07:39] twb: no. either you use the traditional slapd.conf, then it's just a read-only version in cn-config [07:40] twb: or you exclusively use cn=config and have no slapd.conf at all [07:40] twb: the data is then stored in /etc/ldap/slapd.d/... [07:40] twb: on the plus side, you can change slapd's configuration on the fly without a restart/reload using cn=config [07:40] Hm. I have a new lucid install (i.e. not upgraded), and it has a slapd.conf. How did it get there, if Ubuntu doesn't use it by default? [07:41] twb: see /etc/default/slapd [07:41] * twb looks [07:42] SLAPD_CONF= (i.e. the empty string) in there, which means "use slapd.conf" according to the comments. [07:44] twb: do you have a different ubuntu lucid than me? mine says: "If empty, use the compiled-in default (/etc/ldap/slapd.d)." [07:45] Oh oh oh oh oh [07:45] I'm very very very very stupid [07:45] I forgot that the DESKTOPS are migrating 10.04, but the server is still hardy [07:47] Sorry for wasting your time [07:47] next i want to try i mail server [07:47] can you guide me [07:47] The problem must be elsewhere [07:48] pls [07:48] silentwhisper: Try the Ubuntu Server Guide [07:48] Morning, all [07:55] hi good am to you too [07:56] here in our country, its 2 in the afternoon === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [09:42] My question is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1535426 Please help if you can [09:55] ivoks: around? [10:02] somebody answered my question [10:47] need guide how to set up a typical mailserver [10:47] help [10:49] silentwhisper: have you looked at the server guide? [10:50] http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html [11:07] smoser: do you maintain the euca2ools for Karmic? there is a question in the answer tracker that looks like a bug to me: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+question/118429 [11:16] New bug: #608154 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "MySQL bug(s) crash akonadiserver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608154 [11:35] TeTeT, i will look later [11:50] joschi: Just curious, you don't happen to be the same joschi the one on serverfault? [11:50] andol: I am [11:51] joschi: Ok, was mostly curious, having seen the same nick both there and here. [11:57] New bug: #608177 in squid (main) "squid crashed with SIGFPE in main()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608177 [12:02] New bug: #608182 in nut (main) "problems with ups (mge pulsar es 8+)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608182 [12:26] New bug: #608189 in samba (main) "package smbclient 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: ile tar rovinato - l'archivio del pacchetto è danneggiato" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608189 [13:06] hi [13:07] is there a way to know the controller card details on ubuntu server 8.04 ? [13:07] kaushal: start with 'lspci -vvnn' [13:20] SpamapS: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-uec-monitoring [13:23] <_chris_> can i somehow tail the activity of a port ? === mathiaz_ is now known as mathiaz [13:34] _chris_: sure, you can use tcpdump to sniff the traffic, or you could log using iptables [13:47] shouldn't 'mount -a' mount nfs shares? [13:48] pmatulis: unless it has a 'noauto' option [13:49] ccheney: please push to lp:~uec-provisioning/uec-provisioning/trunk [13:49] SpamapS: thanks [14:02] <_chris_> SpamapS, thx thats what i was looking for :) [14:33] ttx, howdy!! Can you take care of bug #607835 when you have the time please? [14:33] Launchpad bug 607835 in drbd8 "New Upstream Release DRBD 8.3.8.1" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607835 === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey [14:41] andreserl: please subscribe me to it, will do in my next sponsoring spree if nobody beats me to it [14:42] ttx, ok thanks :) [14:49] where does libvirt/kvm store its disc images by default? [14:56] i want to set up a mail server [14:56] please guide me [14:58] edwin_: check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix [15:05] thanks kim8 [15:05] but how can we retrieve the mail [15:06] typically what i see is user can retrieve mail through website am i right? [15:06] <\sh> edwin_: http://workaround.org/ispmail/lenny <- this is for debian, but works on ubuntu...follow the steps... [15:07] postfix is commandline type [15:07] not gui type [15:07] for user [15:10] edwin_: you'd need a webmail (which is a separate thing) .. try http://openwebmail.lagmonster.org/ or atmail.com [15:10] edwin_: or search for zimbra.com .. it's an all in one monster solution .. probably close to what you're looking for [15:12] thanks guys for the links [15:14] nowadays how is an emailserver setup for user [15:14] is it gui type / still shell type/commdline type? [15:18] Hi === zz_ng_ is now known as zz_zz_ng_ [15:18] I have a service that is set to start with runlevel 2, but it's not doing so. Once the computer starts up, I can start the service manually using the same script. What do I need to check? === edwin_ is now known as silentwhisper [15:44] morning all [15:45] Hi [15:45] Ola! [15:45] Wampyre: Is it upstart or plain-old init? [15:46] How can I find out? [15:46] Hi all, does Ubuntu Server not have PEM installed anymore? [15:47] Wampyre, update-rc.d [15:47] The script exists in /etc/rc2.d [15:47] Wampyre: So it's plain-old init :) [15:48] (Also there don't seem to be any PEM packages - I'm trying to get vsftpd virtual users working as per ftp://vsftpd.beasts.org/users/cevans/untar/vsftpd-2.2.2/EXAMPLE/VIRTUAL_USERS/README - can somebody help me?) [15:48] Wampyre: Convert it to upstart [15:48] Wampyre, as in sudo update-rc.d defaults [15:48] that's easy [15:48] update-rc.d shouldn't be bothered [15:48] It can do either, afaik [15:49] Daviey: Bug #599450 [15:49] Launchpad bug 599450 in linux "[apparmor] getattr handled incorrectly in 2.6.35-6.7" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599450 [15:49] qbitza, I've done that, while installing the application. It has created the necessary scripts, but the service is still not starting. [15:50] Jeeves_, how do I convert it to upstart? [15:50] Good morning sommer. [15:50] :-) [15:50] Wampyre: Read the files in /etc/init [15:50] There pretty logical [15:51] upstart is the way to go anyways, so. [15:51] Wympyre, I agree with Jeeves, upstart is the way of the future [15:51] Wampyre, is this your own script? [15:52] Nope, comes with the software [15:53] I just needed to update the paths in it. [15:59] Wampyre: Which software [15:59] zabbix [16:00] Apparently it depends on mysql starting before it does. [16:01] New bug: #608292 in bind9 (main) "Sync bind9 1:9.7.1.dfsg.P2-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608292 [16:07] I had several LocalForward entries in my .ssh/config and I would like to open an ssh connection to the machines in a sort of "background mode" - is this possible? [16:07] phretor: What do you mean? [16:08] phretor: You mean that a script can open connections without usernames and passwords? [16:08] Jeeves_: well, I'd like to put the ssh client in the background so I don't have to open another shell to, say, connect to locally forwarded ports. [16:08] In an upstart script, the start on parameter tells the script what to depend on? [16:09] Wampyre: Yes [16:09] You can configure your own events (i believe) and runlevels [16:09] How would I create a dependency upon mysql? [16:10] That's a good one :) [16:11] so just; start on (mysql) ? [16:11] that might work, yes [16:13] Wampyre: I'm trying to find some documentation on that [16:14] Wampyre: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html [16:14] In the bottom, it talks about initctl -emit [16:14] initctl emit [16:15] Wampyre: Have a look at /etc/init/mountall.conf [16:15] 'emits' is the configuration keyword [16:15] So if you change mysql.conf to 'emits mysql', than zabbix will start when mysql is started [16:16] Upstart is pretty cool, actually. [16:16] Ah! So if I add "emits mysql" to mysql.conf, then I can use "start on (mysql)" [16:16] Too bad that so many programs aren't fixed to use it yet [16:16] Wampyre: That's how I read it, yes :) [16:17] Anyways, I'm afk for a while [16:17] Thanks ffor the assistance :) [16:21] np === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [16:30] anyone has experience with postfix and postfixadmin's vacation? [16:30] i got this vacation working only for an email. [16:30] there is no way to get it working for other emails... [16:34] remix_tj: postfixadmin's vacation? do you mean the vacation package, or some other thing? [16:34] some other thing [16:35] a postfix vacation with a sql backend [16:35] it's specific to postfix? [16:35] what do you mean? [16:36] when you say "a postfix vacation", do you mean that it's specific to postfix, or that it's "just another vacation binary" that happens to have an sql backend? [16:41] uh, seems to be a postfix problem, because the vacation script gets not called [16:42] i've an email (a@b.it) which is (when vacation is active for that user) an alias for a@b.it,a@b.it@autoreply.b.it [16:42] the mail gets delivered to a@b.it but not to the autoreply one, which is the address that generates the automatic email [16:43] can i create a user in my system that will be login in through ssh that i can keep in its own home dir? i.e. so that he doesn't see or can move to the rest of my system? [16:43] that'd be because postfix explicitly blocks routing via multiple @s [16:43] Hilikus: yes [16:44] --> broken vacation package if it's depending on source routed email to work [16:44] Hilikus: "chrooted ssh" [16:44] pmatulis: is that a chroot jail? [16:44] ok, thats what i thought [16:44] thanks pmatulis [16:44] sadly, chroots are frequently trivial to escape [16:44] yes, i've heard [16:45] any other idea lamont [16:45] ? [16:45] lamont: oh, how so? [16:45] lamont: ssh ones specifically [16:45] pmatulis: dunno about ssh in specific, but various approaches exist, depending on the environment handed to the user in the chroot [16:46] if you can get root inside the chroot, then the most trivial is to mount the real root disk somewhere, and chroot into that. [16:46] (use pivot_root to prevent the usual chdir-based chroot escapes) [16:46] i want to give access to a user to come in and see their backups and their backups only. maybe i can restrict the also the commands allowed in the console?? to just do ls and get or whatever download command is needed? [16:47] Hilikus: sounds like you want sftp-only [16:47] i thought sftp still needed ssh access and a system account [16:47] but yes,i was thinking of using sftp [16:48] yeah. ISTR sftp-only users were possible with modern ssh [16:48] lamont: but the strange thing is that works for assistenza@b.c.it@autoreply.b.c.it but not for lorenzettoluca@b.c.it@autoreply.b.c.it [16:48] interesting [16:48] Hilikus: yes, sftp chroots are built-in [16:48] i don't have any ftp or sftp daemons running and i can connect to my server using sftp currently [16:49] Hilikus: it'a a hidden/internal subsystem to ssh [16:49] so, since i there's no daemon, where do i tell it it is a sftp-only access?? [16:49] lamont: that's why i'm asking for help, this is driving me crazy :-) [16:49] Hilikus: ask the great oracle [16:50] i'm not sure what to search for [16:50] Hilikus: "sftp chroot" [16:50] thanks pmatulis [16:50] Hilikus: you're welcome === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [16:59] How should I go about adding a module to ejabberd? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [17:11] how to compress a directory with tar ? [17:12] tar -czvf file directory === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [17:48] hi guys [17:48] i'm trying to rebuild php with --with-curlwrappers [17:49] i followed this guid http://panthar.org/2006/06/15/php-with-mssql-on-ubuntu-606/ [17:49] with php 5.2 it works flawless [17:49] but with 10.4 and php 5.3 it fails [17:49] this are the errors i get [17:49] dpkg-source: info: use the '3.0 (quilt)' format to have separate and documented changes to upstream files, see dpkg-source(1) [17:49] dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source [17:49] dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b php5-5.3.2 gave error exit status 1 [17:49] any idea whats wrong? [17:51] Can you pass a regex to apt-get? How would you say, apt-get install all-of-the-tomcat6-packages [17:53] SuperLag: apt-get install tomcat* [17:53] or tomcat6* [17:53] excellent, thank you [17:53] SuperLag: test with simulate switch (-s) === niekie_ is now known as niekie [18:04] hi guys.. i have gotten a hosted ubuntu 8.04 and am deploying my web app for the first time. my question is about security - what is a reasonably good, reasonably out-of-the-box intrusion detection system - I have heard about OSSEC and Snort [18:06] regarding using cloud-config on ec2 w/ lucid, are packages supposed to be installed before the runcmd are executed? [18:11] hmm.. it looks like cloud-init is parallelized via upstart so the command execution portion (runcmd) can't depend on packages installed by cloud-init.. [18:16] any respond / update on bug 337976 [18:16] Launchpad bug 337976 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Package Redhat's oVirt for use on Ubuntu" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/337976 [18:37] ejat: read the bug to find out [19:21] Hi guys, I would like to know if its possible get get new debian php package getting sru'ed [19:21] fixes quite some amount of dirty bugs [19:26] I have a dedicated server from a host that refuses to use a clean image from the Ubuntu website without installing a ton of packages before handing it over to their customer. Is there a straight forward way of comparing what packages a clean image usually gives, against their image, so that I can remove the additional packages they install? [19:27] dpkg --get-selections [19:31] Jeeves_: manpage has little information. What does that do? [19:34] io: it shows which packages are installed on your system [19:34] anyone help out with a strange nagios error? [19:34] So if you do it on both machines, you can create a diff on both configurations [19:34] bjorr: Maybe [19:34] fuck already broke rule 1 [19:35] ill pastebin [19:35] bjorr: And there's the second! :) No swearing :) [19:36] http://pastebin.com/0B494S4Y [19:36] Jeeves_: That shows both packages from a clean image, and packages that somebody has installed? [19:36] from /var/log/nagios/nagios.log [19:36] io: All installed packages [19:36] already been to #nagios, we couldnt solve it there [19:36] bjorr: It segfaults [19:36]