[00:00] <profus2> its a decoder to decode *.otr files
[00:00] <charlie-tca> Are you using xubuntu 8.04 (Hardy)?
[00:01] <charlie-tca> If you are using anything newer, that may be the problem
[00:05] <charlie-tca> After you unpack that archive, you have to manually move the files where the README.OTR tells you to move them to. You can use google translate to read the file, if needed.
[00:09] <meowmix> i am using the 10.04 version of xubuntu
[00:10] <profus2> @charlie-tca: i am using the lastest version of xubuntu
[00:12] <charlie-tca> profus2: That file was built for Ubuntu 9.04 which is two years old. It may not work for you now. However, you still would have to move the files manually after unpacking.
[00:12] <charlie-tca> no, built for Ubuntu 8.04.1
[00:13] <profus2> the funny thing is, I unpacked it and it runs and works fine
[00:13] <charlie-tca> But that README.OTR file tells you where to stick the files, except it is in german.
[00:13] <profus2> as a newbie I just don't know where to put the files
[00:13] <charlie-tca> Then it is usable. There won't be a menu entry for it
[00:15] <profus2> ok, where should I put the files - subdirectory of /bin ?
[00:16] <profus2> thank you and good night
[00:18] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[00:19] <charlie-tca> I would stick them in ~/bin if they are not needed system wide. That way the user can access them and use them with no problems
[07:24] <mint> when i am booting it says 'disk boot fail, file system error' or something :s it wouldnt even let me boot off a disk i had to restart around 20 times and i got lucky
[08:16] <Ileden> Hi! My xubuntu says at every boot: "keys:Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery", what is this about?
[08:19] <Ileden> It happens right at the xubuntu bootup image, not at the desktop
[08:19] <moetunes> this is the only google return I got - http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=4749&start=10
[08:21] <Ileden> yeah, looks like the same problem there (though probably posted at a wrong place, since I don't think it has anything to do with video cards).
[08:21] <Ileden> I've tried googling too, but it hasn't helped :/
[08:22] <moetunes> have you tried pressing s?
[08:22] <moetunes> or m?
[08:23] <Ileden> yup, s gets me trhough to the system, where everything is normal
[08:23] <Ileden> hmm... wait a sec... I'll try one thing to locate the problem...
[08:30] <Ileden> oookay. It's about an SD card I want to be mounted at bootup.
[08:31] <Ileden> I have it listed in fstab, and I assume xubuntu is trying to do a routine check on in, cannot mount it (for some reason), and ends up waiting for it to be mounted
[08:32] <Ileden> Ubuntu didn't have problems with it being listed in fstab thouhg. Any idea on solutions?
[08:32] <moetunes> I know nothing about sd cards sorry
[08:32] <Ileden> well, is there a way to make xubuntu never do a routine check on a specific drive?
[08:33] <moetunes> take it out of fstab maybe
[08:33] <Ileden> moetunes: yea, but that makes it not mounted at bootup
[08:33] <moetunes> is it getting mounted now?
[08:34] <Ileden> moetunes: also it won't get mounted automatically to the location I want
[08:34] <moetunes> can you paste your fstab?
[08:35] <Ileden> sure
[08:36] <Ileden> um, ok, no it doesn't get mounted automatically right now :(
[08:36] <Ileden> i thought it did.
[08:36] <Ileden> and it seems I need root permission to mount it.
[08:36] <moetunes> from the error ypu pasted it needed you to manually mount it - the press m bit
[08:37] <Ileden> yea, that gets me to a prompt.
[08:38] <Ileden> hm, how do I give an user permission to mount a specific drive
[08:39] <moetunes> only root can do mount - you need to use sudo
[08:39] <Ileden> fstab: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/1w7WjTRA
[08:39] <Ileden> moetunes: yea, but I would like to give permission for my user, so I could mount it automatically
[08:39] <Ileden> who knows, maybe that'll get rid of the problem somehow too
[08:40] <moetunes> afaik the best you could do is add a line in visudo to make mounting without a password possible
[08:41] <moetunes> you'll still need sudo tho
[08:41] <Ileden> ah, found it. " The user option allows normal users to mount the device, whereas nouser lets only the root to mount the device. nouser is the default"
[08:42] <Ileden> let's see...
[08:42] <Ileden> wait... I already have the user option there!
[08:42] <Ileden> grr.
[08:43] <Ileden> how come I don't have permission to mount it.
[08:44] <Ileden> well, that's not the main issue though, the problem is how to get rid of the "s to skip",etc prompt at bootup
[08:45] <Ileden> I'll ask the mount permission from ubuntu main channel with more ppl, maybe they'll know of the issue
[08:45] <moetunes> you could try fstab without the   ,uhelper=hal   part
[08:46] <Ileden> ok
[08:49] <Ileden> didn't change anything
[08:50] <moetunes> k
[08:50] <Ileden> wait, the user option DOES work, and I can mount the drive without sudo
[08:51] <Ileden> i just srcewed up there before
[08:51] <Ileden> sorry :)
[08:51] <Ileden> anyway, the prompt is still there at bootup
[08:53] <moetunes> you might need someone with sd card experience for this
[08:53] <Ileden> yup
[08:56] <Ileden> hmm, adding the noauto option to fstab did fix the prompt... but of course now it still doesn't mount at bootup
[08:57] <Ileden> I could try executing the mount at bootup - what can I do to make a command run at bootup?
[08:58] <Ileden> Oh, and from that I remember another question I was going to ask: How do I stop certain services (ssh,apache,mysql) to not start at bootup with xubuntu?
[08:58] <moetunes> I would check the syslog to see if it writes an error about it - might give a clue
[08:58] <Ileden> (sorry, there was an extra "no" in that question)
[09:00] <moetunes> you can put a command in /etc/rc.local to have it run at boot
[09:01] <moetunes> and change the S to K from in front of services you don't want to start in /etc/rc*.d
[09:01] <Ileden> moetunes: ok, thanks
[09:02] <moetunes> the " put a command in /etc/rc.local to have it run at boot" wasn't right - it will run when the runlevel starts iirc Ileden
[09:03] <moetunes> which is during boot
[09:03] <Ileden> moetunes: so I change the file names in /etc/rc*.d/? not edit the file contents?
[09:04] <Ileden> moetunes: well, that's good enough, I don't need the mount point at anything in boot time
[09:04] <Ileden> moetunes: and it seems to work ok. thank you! It's a bit of a workaround to the issues but that's not a problem :)
[09:05] <moetunes> great that it works :]
[09:06] <moetunes> and yep - just change the letter at the start from S (which means start) to K
[09:08] <Ileden> hmm, the services, at least apache2, seems to be in multiple of those directories, where in some it's K and some it's S...
[09:09] <Ileden> so those directories represent different runlevels?
[09:10] <Ileden> and the S determines it's Starting the service at that runlevel, in the order of the numbers I gather, but what does K then mean?
[09:11] <moetunes> yep they're diff runlevels and the is symbolic for kill
[09:11] <moetunes> yep they're diff runlevels and the k is symbolic for kill
[09:12] <Ileden> so instead of starting it, i set it to be killed (even though there is no instance of it)?
[09:13] <moetunes> if you delete the link the next update it will prob be remade
[09:13] <moetunes> the files in the runlevel dirs are links to scripts in /etc/init.d
[09:14] <Ileden> yup, so it seems. also the README there tells me to run update-rc.d afterwards.
[09:15] <Ileden> hmm, this is rather interesting. I'll do some reading up on the runlevels.
[09:16] <moetunes> once you undestand it it is pretty straightforward but you need to keep an eye on the changes ubunuts make
[09:27] <Ileden> it seems on ubuntu I only need to change runlevel 2
[09:31] <moetunes> mostly yes just runlevel 2
[09:31] <bazhang> !runlevels
[09:32] <Ileden> !Upstart
[09:33] <Ileden> Yeah... mysql and ssh don't even show up in /etc/rc*.d/...
[09:43] <moetunes> ubuntu does keep changing things ...
[09:45] <bazhang> aptitude is being removed as of Meerkat
[09:58] <mint> when i am booting it says 'disk boot fail, file system error' or something :s it wouldnt even let me boot off a disk i had to restart around 20 times and i got lucky
[11:59] <SaEeDIRHA> hello guys, do you think Xubuntu would be good Distro for asus EEE 700 ?
[12:01] <moetunes> because of the resolution I would go for a netbook centric distro to avoid setup dramas personally
[12:02] <SaEeDIRHA> moetunes: thankx, any recommended distro for asus eee 700 ?
[12:04] <moetunes> depends on what desktop you like - there's a few around now SaEeDIRHA
[12:04] <SaEeDIRHA> moetunes: preferably i want XFCE since it is very light comparing to KDE and Gnome
[12:05] <moetunes> SaEeDIRHA: there's no xfce based one that comes to mind
[12:06] <SaEeDIRHA> moetunes: in that case i am all right with KDE or GNOME , which ever is lighter and uses less resources would be better
[12:07] <moetunes> SaEeDIRHA: try
[12:07] <moetunes> !unr
[12:09] <moetunes> SaEeDIRHA: http://www.internetling.com/2010/03/04/top-5-netbook-linux-distros-2010-edition-with-gallery/
[12:10] <SaEeDIRHA> moetunes: thankx alot
[12:10] <moetunes> np :]
[14:17] <handjob> Hi all. Anyone knews how to fix the problem with new notification system and it's incapability to work with notify-send?
[14:23] <schlaftier> handjob: notify-send works fine for me, what's the issue with it?
[14:25] <handjob> schlaftier: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-notifyd/+bug/497729
[14:26] <handjob> schlaftier: Thou I must point that I am running "regular" ubuntu with xfce installed not Xubuntu.
[14:28] <schlaftier> handjob: I see. No idea then, as I'm running notify-osd, not the Xfce notification daemon
[14:29] <mr_pouit> handjob: if you're using lucid, you can take a package including the patch in my ppa: https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa/+files/xfce4-notifyd_0.1.0-4ubuntu1.1~ppa1_amd64.deb for amd64 or https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa/+files/xfce4-notifyd_0.1.0-4ubuntu1.1~ppa1_i386.deb for i386
[14:30] <mr_pouit> (they have a lower version number than the package that my appear someday in lucid-proposed/lucid-updates, so they'll be automatically updated after)
[14:31] <handjob> mr_pouit: I may try that out. Thank You.
[14:42] <handjob> OK, my previous problem can also be fixed by replacing the new system with "notification-daemon" package. I am testing how it works with irssi's notification script so I would be grateful if someone wrote something to me.
[14:45] <schlaftier> handjob: you've got mail ;)
[14:46] <handjob> schlaftier: Thank You! It works!
[14:57] <phil__> Why does my Trash say there are items in it, when it shows that there are none?
[14:58] <phil__> The icon is filled.
[14:58] <phil__> But when I go into it, there's nothing there.
[15:37] <jim__> hi to all
[15:39] <jim__> hi i have a error in start up is say error:no suitable mode found nad error : unknown command terminal  can some help ?
[15:42] <charlie-tca__> in start up? as in the screens before gdm?
[15:43] <jim__> before it login it say that errors and after that it logins
[15:45] <jim__> and my higher resolution  is 800x600 and i can make it high then that
[15:45] <charlie-tca__> What version of Xubuntu?
[15:45] <jim__> xubuntu 10.04
[15:46] <jim__> with s3virge graphic card
[15:47] <charlie-tca__> It is complaining that the resolution capability of the video card is too low. Are there any drivers given in Applciations -> System -> Hardware Drivers ?
[15:49] <jim__> no
[15:50] <jim__> maybe i need to chance somthing in xorg.conf file in horizsync and in vertrefresh?
[15:54] <jim__> how can i change the resolution with a windows program  not in a terminal  in xubuntu 10.04
[15:55] <jim__> ?
[15:57] <jim__> thanks for help bye bye
[16:10] <jim__> hi again i have the same problem  hi i have a error in start up is say error:no suitable mode found nad error : unknown command terminal  can some help ?
[16:13] <Xubuntu_Newb> Would
[16:14] <jim__> ?
[16:26] <jim__> any help please iam new to ubuntu
[16:33] <jim__> help ?
[16:48] <jim__> any help with that error:no suitable mode found nad error : unknown command terminal
[17:45] <Xubuntu_Newb> Hi everyone, quick question. After I did unzipped a tarball to install a program, and then I read in the install file about me needing some sort of development headers, and it gave a list of items, some of them were libICE-dev, X, libvoris. Then I tried ./configure to start installing the program, but it gave me a configure:error can't find libICE, does that mean I have to install all the items listed myself?
[17:45] <Xubuntu_Newb> Using Ubuntu Software Center, or Synaptic Package Manager?
[17:48] <charlie-tca__> Is the application you are trying to install not in Synaptic Package Manager?
[17:50] <handjob> Xubuntu_Newb: Yes, installing from tarballs in pain in the ass. You really don't want to do this unless: You are pretty good at Linux, You have no other alternative.
[17:50] <Xubuntu_Newb> Yeah, I couldn't find recordMyDesktop in Ubuntu Software Center
[17:51] <Xubuntu_Newb> So, I thought I would need to install from tarballs.
[17:52] <handjob> Xubuntu_Newb: First look on the web. Maybe there is available in other repositories / in .deb package. If not try to look for other softwer that does same thing, if not good luck and have a nice fun in slackware land.
[17:52] <Xubuntu_Newb> Slackware?
[17:52] <pleia2> Xubuntu_Newb: recordmydesktop is the package you want (it is in the software center)
[17:53] <Xubuntu_Newb> I looked, it didn't appear to be there. Anyway, to answer my questions, do I have to install those libraries first, then rune ./configure again?
[17:53] <pleia2> Xubuntu_Newb: what version of xubuntu are you using?
[17:54] <Xubuntu_Newb> Erm, latest Lucid Lynx? More specific answers?
[17:54] <Xubuntu_Newb> Sorry, it appears I'm sounding a bit rude, forgive me, but do I just install those libraries?
[17:54] <pleia2> recrodmydesktop is definitely there then, search it as one word
[17:55] <pleia2> there should be an README that came with the tarball, but you really don't want to do this unless it satisfies what handjob suggests, and it doesn't seem to be the case here
[17:55] <pleia2> installing tarballs is messy and can get complicated very fast
[17:55] <Xubuntu_Newb> Found it :D Yeah, I read the README didn't provide much, and I read the Install file. I guess when I searched it USC I used capitalization
[17:56] <pleia2> there you go :)
[17:56] <handjob> I have recordmydesktop in my repositories.
[17:56] <Xubuntu_Newb> Yeah, but since I'm already this far, I want to be able to install a tarball, in case I need to.
[17:56] <handjob> I will check in which one precisly.
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> This is what it says in the INSTALL file: You will need the development headers(i.e. packages ending with -dev or -devel
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> depending on the distribution you use) for the following:
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> X
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> libICE-dev
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> libSM-dev
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> libXext
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> libXdamage
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> libXfixes
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> libogg
[17:57] <pleia2> Xubuntu_Newb: honestly most software comes with good README or Install files, I've never memorized the exact process for standard compiling
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> libvorbis
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> libtheora
[17:57] <pleia2> please don't paste that all here :(
[17:57] <pleia2> !paste
[17:57] <Xubuntu_Newb> Sorry.
[17:58] <pleia2> that install file is telling you to install the packages
[17:58] <Xubuntu_Newb> Well, do I have to install those?
[17:58] <pleia2> so libice-dev in ubuntu, install with software center
[17:58] <pleia2> same with libsm-dev
[17:58] <pleia2> they should all be there
[17:59] <Xubuntu_Newb> Okay, that answers my question, thank you very much, next time I'll search a bit harder in USC, and sorry if I sounded a bit snappy
[17:59] <pleia2> but really, use the ubuntu package, it'll get automatically upgraded with security and with the rest of the OS when you upgrade, rather than having an old tarball laying around that you manually have to upgrade and fix
[18:00] <Xubuntu_Newb> Yeah, I understand, I just wanted to expand my knowledge so I'll be able to use these tools.
[18:00]  * pleia2 nods
[18:00] <handjob> ok ok
[18:01] <handjob> You need to enable 'universe' repositories.
[18:01] <handjob> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:01] <Xubuntu_Newb> I read that this software uses open video formats, is it possible to convert them to .AVI and .MPG4 if I wanted to post on YouTube or Facebook etc.?
[18:01] <handjob> Unhash niverse repo.
[18:02] <handjob> sudo apt-get update
[18:02] <pleia2> handjob: actually the software center has a really nice tool for handling this :)
[18:02] <handjob> sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[18:02] <pleia2> edit > software sources
[18:02] <Xubuntu_Newb> Does USC use the exact same repos as using apt-get, just that apt-get is CLI?
[18:02] <handjob> pleia2: To be honest I don't knew. I haven't been using it much.
[18:03] <pleia2> handjob: me neither, but it's the official way to support installs so I poke around and get to know it
[18:03] <pleia2> Xubuntu_Newb: yep
[18:03] <Xubuntu_Newb> What about aptitude?
[18:04] <handjob> away
[18:06] <pleia2> Xubuntu_Newb: that uses the same sources too
[18:06] <charlie-tca__> Xubuntu_Newb: all repositories in Xubuntu/Ubuntu will use the same sources, it doesn't matter which application you use to do the installation
[18:09] <Xubuntu_Newb> All right, thanks for the information everyone :D
[18:20] <likemindead> Docky, wbar, or AVN?
[18:23] <skit-lasse> I just installed xubuntu 10.04 and I don't understand how to get my two screens working, in fashion that they are not clones of each other. my graphics card is ATI Radeon 9600 and when I start "Hardware drivers" it just says that "no drivers available".
[18:24] <charlie-tca__> !twinview
[18:25] <charlie-tca__> !xinerama
[18:26] <charlie-tca__> skit-lasse: I am not sure with ATI. You may have to modify the /etc/xorg.conf file manually, or create one with the correct settings for dual monitors and different screens on each one.
[18:27] <charlie-tca__> !dualmonitor
[18:29] <skit-lasse> charlie-tca__: thanks, I hoped that this won't need mutilating xorg.conf, but if that the way, then be it
[18:29] <charlie-tca__> skit-lasse: this does give some limited information on setting it up - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo#ATI
[18:30] <charlie-tca__> I don't think it is possible without modifying xorg.conf
[18:31] <skit-lasse> great, that xorg.conf seems to be quite good for my purposes, thanks again
[18:31] <charlie-tca__> You are welcome
[18:56] <malikeye|123> anybody got a good link for getting copmiz working with xubuntu?
[18:57] <charlie-tca__> Use the builtin compositor?
[18:57] <charlie-tca__> !compiz
[18:57] <malikeye|123> thanks...
[18:58] <malikeye|123> last time I tried to use it with xfce, it was kinda hokie
[18:59] <charlie-tca__> Xfce has a compositor built in to xfwm4, which works for nice effects.
[18:59] <malikeye|123> I like the compiz themes though... I'm using the built in compositor for xfce
[19:00] <charlie-tca__> turn off the xfwm4 compositor with compiz, they fight each other
[19:00] <malikeye|123> yeah
[19:02]  * stockhunter is a new xubuntu user, and is wondering how you change your screen resolution in xubuntu?
[19:03] <charlie-tca__> stockhunter: Applications -> Settings -> Xfce Settings Manage -> display
[19:03] <charlie-tca__> and welcome to Xubuntu
[19:03] <stockhunter> thank you!
[19:03] <charlie-tca__> You are welcome
[19:04] <stockhunter> yeah so far i like it a lot
[19:04] <stockhunter> might go with ubuntu on my desktop though
[19:04] <charlie-tca__> huh?
[19:04] <stockhunter> the OS, xubuntu
[19:04] <charlie-tca__> I think xubuntu is the best thing going, on any computer
[19:04] <stockhunter> i like it so far
[19:04] <charlie-tca__> I use it on all of my desktops
[19:05] <schlaftier> I even use it on my iMac
[19:05] <stockhunter> dual boot or is it the only OS?
[19:06] <charlie-tca__> I test a lot of other things, but I only use Xubuntu to do work
[19:06] <schlaftier> stockhunter: dual boot, but my version of OS X is quite outdated (10.4) and I only keep it for emergency situations
[19:06] <stockhunter> k, cuz if i put it on my other comp i'll be doing dual boot with winXP pro
[19:06] <stockhunter> cuz i have programs that won't work on linux
[19:08] <stockhunter> well, thanks for helping me with the resolution settings :), i'll off to play around some more
[19:09] <stockhunter> i'm*
[19:27] <xubuntu906> по русски говорят?
[19:28] <mr_pouit> mmh, is it russian?
[19:28] <mr_pouit> !ru
[19:28] <xubuntu906> yes
[19:42] <jim__> hi to all
[19:43] <jim__>  hi i have a error in start up is say error:no suitable mode found nad error : unknown command terminal  and my higher resolution  is 800x600 and i cannt make it high then that  It is complaining that the resolution capability of the video card is too low plaese help!
[19:44] <jim__> the error complaining
[19:44] <jim__> how to fix that
[19:44] <jim__> ?
[19:46] <skit-lasse> now I am totally confused, I cannot find xorg.conf on my system, it is not in /etc/X11 or /etc
[19:47] <charlie-tca__> skit-lasse: you may have to create it. It should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:48] <charlie-tca__> If it doesn't exist, you can use "cd /etc/X11" , "gksudo mousepad xorg.conf" to create it
[19:50] <brot> can someone tell me how to change the password of the gnome keyring?
[19:52] <skit-lasse> charlie-tca__: oh, I thought that XServer creates it and uses it
[19:53] <charlie-tca__> It used to, but with all the changes for automatic resolution and video settings, it is not used much anymore. The good thing is if you create it, what you add to it becomes default
[19:53] <charlie-tca__> and overrides what would be used
[20:06] <jim__> any help to me with the errors
[20:06] <jim__> ?
[20:26] <ryan_languagelab> hi syndaemon doesn't seem to be working with emacs but works with every other program
[20:27] <ryan_languagelab> when I try to turn off the synaptic touchpad on my laptop while typing, emacs is the only program (it seems) that doesn't "care" about the settings
[21:37] <profus2> hi everybody
[21:37] <knome> !hi | profus2
[21:38] <profus2> when trying to connect via WLAN I am asked to unlock keys
[21:38] <profus2> i have no clue what to to about that
[21:38] <profus2> login password does not work
[21:38] <profus2> and I did not give another password
[21:38] <knome> are you sure it's not asking the network password?
[21:39] <profus2> you mean wlan password? no there is a different field for it
[21:41] <profus2> ok, i could logoff and try, whether this is the same password
[21:41] <profus2> cu
[23:03] <slow-motion> n8