| * Quintasan needs to pester Launchpad admins | 00:22 | |
| DarkwingDuck | Hey guys... Interesting problem. | 02:30 |
|---|---|---|
| DarkwingDuck | I get freeze with 64bit 10.04... But not with 32bit | 02:31 |
| claydoh | so, would apt see 4:4.4.92a-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 as newer than 4:4.4.92-0ubuntu3? | 02:43 |
| claydoh | sommeone in forum.kde.org upgraded to Maverick and can't install kdelibs5-dev :/ | 02:44 |
| maco | Riddell: wouldve liked it if you had such plans :-/ | 02:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | \Hey maco, thanks for covering for me for user days. :/ | 02:54 |
| maco | DarkwingDuck: np | 02:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | maco: saved me but, it was needed... | 02:56 |
| ScottK | claydoh: Yes. | 04:12 |
| soreau | Can anyone tell me the difference between kdelibs4-dev and kdelibs5-dev? | 05:32 |
| soreau | Ultimately I'm trying to figure out which deps are needed to build kde4-window-decorator for compiz | 05:32 |
| soreau | got it | 07:38 |
| Riddell | claydoh: yes 4:4.4.92a-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 will be "newer" than 4:4.4.92-0ubuntu3 | 08:57 |
| Riddell | where does that come from? | 08:57 |
| Riddell | Qt building on ARM, fingers crossed | 08:57 |
| * ulysses crosses fingers | 09:04 | |
| Quintasan | \o/ | 09:17 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: ha, ha, now we are fighting to import kdelibs, someone did that some time ago and now it's borked | 09:18 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 09:18 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: import where? | 09:23 |
| Quintasan | to Launchpad | 09:24 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: did you need a quota increase? | 09:26 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: yes we did | 09:26 |
| Quintasan | we still do | 09:26 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what's the question number? | 09:26 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/117762 | 09:27 |
| Riddell | I wonder what "opening for losas" means | 09:28 |
| Riddell | ah, Launchpad and Landscape Operational Systems Administrators | 09:29 |
| Riddell | hmm, I don't think I know any of those people | 09:29 |
| Riddell | guess I can just add my support | 09:29 |
| Quintasan | would be great | 09:32 |
| Riddell | can anyone actually get crash reports from drkonqi in maverick yet? | 09:45 |
| * Quintasan fires up maverick machine | 09:45 | |
| Riddell | start a KDE app, kill -SEGV <pid> check backtrace | 09:46 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts uploaded | 09:47 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: does neon need launchpad imports? | 09:51 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: yes, recipes need code to be in launchpad | 09:52 |
| Riddell | ScottK: spoke to arne about im-switch using zenity, seems it's only used for features that language-selector does anyway so he's going to remove it from im-switch and we don't have to care about porting to kdialog | 10:08 |
| === persia` is now known as persia | ||
| shadeslayer | Riddell: brr... every app krashes here when i close it | 10:45 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 10:46 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: and yes i get a backtrace | 10:46 |
| Riddell | well that's something | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | i think it was fixed in the last updates or something | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger knows about it i think | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | also.. qoauth is still in universe :( | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | and kdevelop 4.0.1 was released | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | im working on it | 10:49 |
| Riddell | Get: 1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main libqoauth1 1.0-2ubuntu1 [28.5kB] | 10:52 |
| Riddell | it's in main ^^ | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | weird.. lp page still shows universe :S | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | omg | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: Quintasan https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/117762 | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | go for project Neon ! | 10:54 |
| Riddell | groovy | 10:55 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can you sync bug 607864 | 10:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 607864 in qoauth (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qoauth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607864 | 10:55 |
| shadeslayer | brrr | 10:56 |
| shadeslayer | wrong bug | 10:56 |
| shadeslayer | bug 608378 | 10:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 608378 in choqok (Ubuntu) "Sync choqok 0.9.81-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608378 | 10:56 |
| shadeslayer | but unfortunately : https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/kdelibs : :/ | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: ^^ | 10:58 |
| sheytan | hey | 11:06 |
| sheytan | what package should i install for qt development files? | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | lo | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: libqt4-dev | 11:06 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer, thanks | 11:06 |
| Riddell | hi sheytan, saw your web design, looks pretty | 11:07 |
| sheytan | Riddell Thank you :) | 11:07 |
| Riddell | we are 90% of the way there with a new design which has taken many month | 11:07 |
| Riddell | so we're not looking for new designs now, hassle enough to get the one we have been working on for the last year up | 11:08 |
| Riddell | but when it's launched then we will want to look into how to improve it of course | 11:08 |
| sheytan | :) | 11:08 |
| sheytan | hey guys, can someone take a look at this http://pastebin.com/234pfdN8 | 11:08 |
| sheytan | Looks like the problem happens only in kubuntu | 11:08 |
| sheytan | i complied this on slackware without any problem | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | bluedevil == new bluetooth manager right? | 11:09 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer yes | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | no idea :P | 11:10 |
| sheytan | first when i had this error, i thought it was libbluedevil related. Then i complied the same sources on slackware fine | 11:10 |
| \sh | sheytan: looks like libqt4-dev is not installed | 11:10 |
| sheytan | \sh it is :/ | 11:10 |
| sheytan | maybe the package misses some stuff | 11:10 |
| \sh | hardcoded -I paths inside the makesystem? | 11:11 |
| sheytan | \sh don't even know what this is :D | 11:11 |
| sheytan | i installed kdebase and kdelibs dev packages | 11:11 |
| sheytan | buildessential | 11:11 |
| sheytan | and qt devel package | 11:11 |
| sheytan | other programs compile fine | 11:12 |
| \sh | sheytan: inside the makesystem of this tool, it could be that one of compiler flags is set hardcoded to a different include path for qt include files | 11:12 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ might want to check cmakelists.txt | 11:12 |
| sheytan | this is cmakelists http://pastebin.com/GH2NscPh | 11:13 |
| sheytan | \sh shadeslayer might it be that in kubuntu i have qt 4.7? | 11:15 |
| sheytan | i mean, can 4.7 couses the problem | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | no idea... | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | could be | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | im not sure tho | 11:15 |
| yofel | hm, is there a gui to do release upgrades in kubuntu? (or do we use update-manager for that too) | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: update-manager | 11:15 |
| \sh | sheytan: pointer to the source release? | 11:17 |
| sheytan | \sh don't know what you mean :) | 11:17 |
| \sh | sheytan: from where did you get the sourcecode? | 11:17 |
| sheytan | \sh http://gitorious.org/libbluedevil | 11:17 |
| \sh | I bet something is wrong with the default QT4_INCLUDE_PATH, eventually that the makesystem is not finding the correct location.... | 11:21 |
| \sh | don't have the time yet to check | 11:21 |
| sheytan | \sh ok, thanks anyway :) | 11:21 |
| Riddell | it's only a problem in that test/ directory | 11:29 |
| Riddell | everything else has the right includes as the compile line | 11:29 |
| Riddell | if I comment out test in bluedevil/CMakeLists.txt it finishes fine | 11:32 |
| shadeslayer | test fail :P | 11:32 |
| Riddell | sorted | 11:35 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: is it possible to resume building from pbuilder if there was a error and i dropped to shell to fix it? | 11:42 |
| shadeslayer | meh.. anyways.. im off to make my training report... :> | 11:44 |
| Riddell | I don't know, I don't use pbuilder for anything other than a final check | 11:45 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: would you mind pushing virtuoso-opensource through new queue? soprano is sort've broken until the new packages get through. (an oversight on my part) | 12:43 |
| * apachelogger is wondering what to get for lunch :S | 12:49 | |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: let me look | 12:50 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: thanks | 12:52 |
| JontheEchidna | bbiab | 12:52 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: poke.. | 12:53 |
| shadeslayer | dude.. where did you store your recipie ? | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | in his cookbook ^^ | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | hehe... | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | the Qt recipe i mean | 12:58 |
| * apachelogger looks | 13:02 | |
| * apachelogger starves | 13:02 | |
| shadeslayer | heh | 13:02 |
| * shadeslayer gives apachelogger some food | 13:02 | |
| * apachelogger supposedly will just command his bike to take him to some establishment where one can obtain meals | 13:02 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sudo make_me_a_sandwich | 13:03 |
| apachelogger | I think no sudo necesary there | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | also no raw ingredients are available so that will fail | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | OMG it is like a 30000 degree celsius outside | 13:05 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | and who invented hair -.- | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | well then, I am off looking for someting to eat o/ | 13:10 |
| MrDarkUser | Hi, I'm really struggling with getting a kde build enviornment set up, I am attempting to use kdesrc-build and have some pastebins. | 13:15 |
| MrDarkUser | if anybody cares | 13:15 |
| MrDarkUser | http://pastebin.com/bzwzrReL | 13:19 |
| Riddell | MrDarkUser: looks like an error in libstreamanalyzer | 13:24 |
| MrDarkUser | Riddell: I was told to do something with nm by another person, and found that there is that symbol | 13:25 |
| MrDarkUser | in the libstreamanalyser.so.0.7, I don't know why that matters | 13:25 |
| MrDarkUser | I'm running kdesrc-build and have no idea what to do next | 13:26 |
| MrDarkUser | I followed the kdesrc-build documentation at kdesrc-build.kde.org and the onlything that is funny about my system is it is kubuntu 10.04 32bit with the kde4.5ppa on it | 13:27 |
| MrDarkUser | and I don't see how a conflict could come ppa vs reglar 10.04 | 13:27 |
| MrDarkUser | Riddell: I have plenty of time, I just don't know what else I can do | 13:28 |
| Riddell | MrDarkUser: do you have libstreamanalyzer-dev installed? | 13:29 |
| jtechidna | Riddell: thanks | 13:31 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| MrDarkUser | Riddell: yes. I know there are a lot of busy people out there, I've gotten similar errors when I tried opensuse as a base, and ended up going back to kubuntu and successfully building the 4.5 branch, I'm thinking that I might have to pay somebody to guide me thru this | 13:41 |
| Riddell | MrDarkUser: are you interested in any paticular part of KDE? personally I don't build a whole separate development environment, I just use packages for the bits I don't care about and only compile the bit I'm working on | 13:59 |
| MrDarkUser | I'm wanting to play with plasma panel behavior, and the fileview parts of dolphin, so getting into kdelibs a bit | 14:00 |
| MrDarkUser | (I think I wore out the kde-devel guy who had started to help me, and I think there is something broken with the kdesrc-build program) | 14:03 |
| Adri2000 | I'm trying to add and configure a news widget using plasma scripting (in lucid) | 14:38 |
| Riddell | MrDarkUser: so I'd just checkout kdelibs and compile only that | 14:40 |
| txwikinger | why does kded4 create 100s of defunct children? | 14:40 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: doesn't here | 14:40 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: I think you need to hibernate | 14:41 |
| Adri2000 | (and had troubles with using writeConfig(), but looks like it gonna work now :-)) | 14:41 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: I've suspended lots, no defunct processes here | 14:41 |
| txwikinger | Well. I think it only does it with hibernate | 14:42 |
| txwikinger | Actually I have 2 defuncts on my desktop which neither hibernates nor suspends | 14:42 |
| txwikinger | but on my netbook I have 2472 now | 14:42 |
| txwikinger | hehe killing the main kded4 process has really unny effects | 14:44 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: I can reproduce it every time | 14:47 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: install-package breaks for me when run through language-selector, so that would be a nice first target for qapt-batch :) | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | god damn it | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | stupid python | 15:00 |
| * txwikinger thinks it sounds like a problem between the chair and the keyboard | 15:01 | |
| Quintasan | < maxb> Quintasan: Only by someone first fixing bug 579491 | 15:01 |
| Quintasan | txwikinger: and guess what is the problem? | 15:01 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/579491) | 15:01 |
| Quintasan | PYTHON! | 15:02 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: sure. I have kubuntu-notification-helper, kubuntu-firefox-installer and kubuntu-debug-installer already ported in bzr. | 15:02 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: I just want to wait for the libqapt beta release (which is also API freeze) to do my symbols file-ing | 15:02 |
| JontheEchidna | then I can file the MIR | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: give me an axe or something, I'm going to Python devs | 15:02 |
| JontheEchidna | beta is planned a week from yesterday | 15:03 |
| * txwikinger wonders if an axe is the right tool to fix anything like that | 15:04 | |
| Quintasan | txwikinger: Trust me, for Python, it will work flawlessly | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | Eliminating the cause if the best solution for any problem | 15:05 |
| txwikinger | Quintasan: I told you .. the cause sits between chair and keyboard | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52316355/buildlog.txt.gz << hahahaha | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | txwikinger: Are you implying that launchpad devs are the cause of python being faulty? | 15:06 |
| CIA-33 | [muon] jmthomas * 1153095 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonMainWindow.cpp (log message trimmed) | 15:06 |
| CIA-33 | Use a KMessageBox::detailedError for presenting our queued errors, since the | 15:06 |
| CIA-33 | text isn't selectable in KMessageBox::errorList. This is not ideal as a very | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | commit message cut off ^^ | 15:07 |
| * txwikinger thinks he did not imply anything | 15:07 | |
| * txwikinger checks defunct process after reboot | 15:08 | |
| CIA-33 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1153096 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Mirror revision 1153095 in qapt-batch | 15:09 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1153095&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1153095 | 15:09 |
| txwikinger | 0 | 15:09 |
| CIA-33 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1153098 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp ...and also don't forget about the newlines | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | heh.... ubottu joins CIA-33 in fillinf chan logs | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | *fillinf | 15:09 |
| * shadeslayer shoots keyboard.... | 15:09 | |
| txwikinger | shadeslayer: The problem is between the chair and the keyboard | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | txwikinger: no.. the problem is the keyboard :P | 15:10 |
| CIA-33 | [muon] jmthomas * 1153103 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) Muon can technically handle reloading after software-properties-kde finishes, but it has to ask authorization since muon isn't run as root. Therefore, let software-properties-kde take care of things | 15:21 |
| JontheEchidna | mmm, latest intel driver crack. brb rebooting | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | new drivers break my pretty boot screen :| | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: you are very agressive young man | 15:35 |
| * Trouble slaps Virtuoso around a bit with a large trout | 16:01 | |
| JontheEchidna | ya, sorry about the overwrites. a fix is building | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | Trouble: sudo apt-get -f install | 16:02 |
| * Trouble slaps JontheEchidna around a bit with a large trout :-p | 16:02 | |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 16:02 |
| Trouble | ta shadeslayer | 16:02 |
| * Trouble hugs JontheEchidna and shadeslayer | 16:05 | |
| shadeslayer | uh oh... | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | its never good when Trouble hugs you ... ^_^ | 16:12 |
| davmor2 | shadeslayer: let me guess your day goes downhill from here on in ;) | 16:33 |
| * Trouble visits apachelogger | 16:39 | |
| apachelogger | Trouble: too hot for trouble really | 16:41 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: But don't you suffer from the problem that anywhere you're locate gets unnaturally hot due to some of the hotness rubbing off? | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | well observed, but usually it does not get that hot! | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | davmor2: its night here :p | 16:50 |
| Riddell | dantti: what's the status (if any) of your printer tools and packagekit app view? | 16:53 |
| dantti | Riddell: two kids and a wife on vacations at home :P | 16:53 |
| Riddell | you've got a whole team to do the coding for you :) | 16:54 |
| dantti | Riddell: well aptcc got the bits for debconf, and distro-upgrade works but the file is not installing on the right place | 16:54 |
| Riddell | dantti: which file? | 16:54 |
| dantti | Riddell: get-distro-upgrade.py | 16:56 |
| dantti | hmm actually it's not even being installed | 16:56 |
| Riddell | dantti: that sounds like an easy issue to solve though, should we try and get aptcc in for alpha 3 next week? | 16:57 |
| dantti | sure we can make a patch for that should not be hard just a path issue | 16:57 |
| dantti | then the most important I'll try to fix now | 16:58 |
| dantti | when packagekitd quits packagekit-qt stops receiving signals when packagekitd comes back | 16:58 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: hehe... looks like your upload causes this : http://pastebin.ca/1906062 | 16:59 |
| dantti | in kubuntu 10.4 (kpk 0.5) has the problem too :( | 16:59 |
| dantti | and I have no idea why this happens :P | 16:59 |
| Riddell | dantti: groovy, can you e-mail me where to grab the code or patch for aptcc when it's sensible to upload? | 16:59 |
| dantti | Riddell: k, no problem when is the dead line? | 17:00 |
| Riddell | tuesday is freeze so before monday evening | 17:00 |
| dantti | hmmm that's not nice, can kpk and debconf-qt be pushed after? | 17:01 |
| Riddell | yes | 17:01 |
| dantti | next week I'll probably have much more time | 17:01 |
| dantti | Riddell: k, k so for you it's better to fix packagekit aptcc and the qt lib right? | 17:02 |
| Riddell | better than what? | 17:02 |
| dantti | I mean tuesday is freeze but you said kpk and debconf-qt can be pushed after so I'd like to know what is more important... | 17:03 |
| Riddell | oh only freeze for alpha 3, we can put stuff in after alpha 3 (Thursday) | 17:03 |
| Riddell | FeatureFreeze is august 12th | 17:04 |
| Riddell | so it's nice to get aptcc in for alpha 3 to get testing, but if it's after that's fine too | 17:04 |
| * Riddell out | 17:04 | |
| dantti | k | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: please sync choqok before archive freezes | 17:08 |
| dantti | Riddell: btw it would be good to have this bug fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/188127 | 17:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 188127 in apt (Ubuntu) "Update manager shows warning that system was not updated for a long time (not true)" [Medium,Invalid] | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/AueyK << the mark for unmark button isnt really helpful ^_^ | 17:12 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: we still need to copy the cmake file to use debconf-kde right? | 17:19 |
| JontheEchidna | dantti: copy the cmake file? | 17:36 |
| JontheEchidna | dantti: it should be in a place where find(Debconf-Kde) should find it | 17:36 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: yes the debconf foo stuff | 17:36 |
| JontheEchidna | In muon I'm just doing find_package(DebconfKDE REQUIRED) and it works | 17:37 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: but what if debconf is not installed? | 17:37 |
| JontheEchidna | debconf or debconf-kde? | 17:38 |
| JontheEchidna | If debconf-kde is not present, it won't build, as it can't build without it. It doesn't require debconf itself to build, but packages should ensure that it is installed | 17:39 |
| JontheEchidna | packages with debconf questions already depend on debconf, so we shouldn't have to worry about a runtime dependency | 17:39 |
| kdepepo | hi, how can I find kubuntu specific patches to KDE? I am specifically looking for a diff of kdebase in LTS 10.04 | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | kdepepo: diff of kdebase? | 17:46 |
| kdepepo | (if any, compared to upstream) | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | kdepepo: all our packaging is @ code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | so you can see what interests you there | 17:46 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: that's trunk | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: uh what? | 17:47 |
| JontheEchidna | he wants 10.04 | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | ohhhhh | 17:47 |
| JontheEchidna | bzr is trunk | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | right you are.... | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | kdepepo: ^^ | 17:48 |
| JontheEchidna | kdepepo: these were what were shipped with 10.04: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase/ubuntu/files/109/debian/patches/ | 17:48 |
| kdepepo | ah nice, thanks JontheEchidna | 17:49 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: right but for kpk i need it to build witouth it since fedora doesn't have debconf... :P | 17:50 |
| dantti | *without | 17:50 |
| JontheEchidna | ifdef DEBCONF_IS_ENABLED? | 17:50 |
| JontheEchidna | or something like that | 17:51 |
| JontheEchidna | you'd probably have to set a macro if debconf-kde is found | 17:51 |
| JontheEchidna | then ifdef that in the code | 17:51 |
| dantti | can i ifndef the cmakefile? | 17:51 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 17:51 |
| dantti | hmm k | 17:51 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell, apachelogger: The scripts should probably be updated to depend on libkdecore5 rather than kdelibs5, since kdelibs5 is a transitional package | 18:11 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, the scripts for kde-l10n-* | 18:11 |
| apachelogger | there is no scripts | 18:12 |
| apachelogger | what scripts | 18:12 |
| apachelogger | :P | 18:12 |
| apachelogger | you did not read my guide to master the kde-l10n clearly :P | 18:13 |
| JontheEchidna | I thought you used magic scripts | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | the scripts only use the powers of the universe to make one packaging branch apply to some 50 packages | 18:13 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, so we just need to update the packaging branch | 18:14 |
| JontheEchidna | then next build it'll automagically propogate to all l10n | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | yep | 18:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: we can make something like klippy in kword ^_^ | 18:16 |
| CIA-33 | [kde-l10n-common] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100722171803-u0xjyxnyv8tro1i6 * debian/control Depend on libkdecore5 rather than the transitional kdelibs5 | 18:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you gotta think bigger... how about klippy for KDE | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | ktip -> klippy | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | this would be so sexy | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | klippy++ | 18:20 |
| JontheEchidna | I can almost remove kdelibs5 from my system: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopce1620 | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: did you get my message earlier ? :) | 18:24 |
| JontheEchidna | message? | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | the one about http://imgur.com/AueyK | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/AueyK << the mark for unmark button isnt really helpful ^_^ | 18:24 |
| JontheEchidna | I guess it shouldn't show the mark for: label when the only action is unmark | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | yep... | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | or maybe,be a little more descriptive | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | Unmark for upgrade | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | or .. Do not Upgrade | 18:26 |
| JontheEchidna | will have to wait for the next release after 1.0. We're in string freeze now | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | no problem | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | just remember it :P | 18:26 |
| JontheEchidna | I could hide the label without breaking string freeze in the meanwhile | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | please do ... its confusing :D | 18:27 |
| oxymoron | Does somebody know if there is some kind of app in KDE/Kubuntu which is able to make flow schemes. I need it to make relationships and logic schemes when programming a really complex thing. | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | oh oh.. muon doesnt work when db is locked and apt dies | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | !aptfix | 18:27 |
| ubottu | If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | and you have to manually run ^^ | 18:27 |
| JontheEchidna | oxymoron: umbrello? | 18:28 |
| JontheEchidna | !info umbrello | 18:28 |
| ubottu | umbrello (source: kdesdk): UML modelling tool and code generator. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 2150 kB, installed size 9952 kB | 18:28 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, the short description isn't very helpful | 18:29 |
| JontheEchidna | but that is probably what you want | 18:29 |
| oxymoron | JontheEchidna: Yeah it seems like it is what I want, thanks man :) Could be useful other times as well. Not sure if it helps though, even if I make some kind of flow over what I am trying todo, I dont know if its possible to program it anyway :P | 18:31 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 18:31 |
| oxymoron | I need a mix of recursive loops, chain reaciton pattern and treeiterator :P | 18:31 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: moved to kdereview | 18:34 |
| JontheEchidna | yay | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | btw.. | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | why cant we give out our @ubuntu.com or @kubuntu.org addresses to people for adding them to gtalk | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | or is it possible? | 18:36 |
| \sh | shadeslayer: no xmpp service for ubuntu.com/kubuntu.com? | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | \sh: theres no kubuntu.com.. only kubuntu.org :D | 18:41 |
| \sh | shadeslayer: whatever ; | 18:41 |
| \sh | shadeslayer: there is kubuntu.com ;) | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | \sh: its just a alias to kubuntu.org :D | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: i haz something for you | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/cmQUV | 18:45 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: which list should I email about libdebconf for kubuntu | 18:46 |
| jjesse | i've never understood why it was kubuntu.org instead of kubuntu.com | 18:46 |
| jjesse | any explantation? | 18:46 |
| JontheEchidna | dantti: kubuntu-devel is fine | 18:46 |
| dantti | @ kubuntu.org? | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | dantti: @lists.ubuntu.com | 18:46 |
| JontheEchidna | kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 18:46 |
| dantti | thanks | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: do you like it? :D | 18:47 |
| JontheEchidna | in pointy-clicky link form | 18:47 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: well, we could reuse widgets we already have | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | i just created that from designer :p | 18:47 |
| JontheEchidna | like MuonMainWindow, and the ReviewWidget | 18:47 |
| JontheEchidna | or maybe not reviewwidget, but use the PackageView and DetailsWidget that make up the ReviewWidget, and have the new class automatically show upgradeable packages | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: i have no idea what your talking about :D | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | i just made that up in qt designer | 18:49 |
| dantti | JontheEchidna: oh I can't post to that list | 18:50 |
| JontheEchidna | dantti: moderated? | 18:50 |
| dantti | but I got to go home now.. cya .. | 18:50 |
| JontheEchidna | or can't post at all? | 18:50 |
| dantti | yup | 18:50 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, well, we'll have to have someone get the message through queue | 18:50 |
| dantti | You are not allowed to post to this mailing list | 18:50 |
| JontheEchidna | :s | 18:50 |
| dantti | it said it has been rejected | 18:51 |
| JontheEchidna | that doesn't seem right. somebody should look in to that | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/8VfuW | 18:51 |
| JontheEchidna | anyways, cya | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | a bit more | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | aww.... | 18:51 |
| JontheEchidna | (was saying cya to dantti. I'm not going) | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: fixed all the buttons and stuff in this one http://imgur.com/nTV6Z | 18:52 |
| oxymoron | May I ask for help in here regarding programming? Nbody in php channels answer, but its not really a PHP issue. I need help with the programming logic only. | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | i can try | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 18:54 |
| shadeslayer | oxymoron: go ! | 18:54 |
| oxymoron | This is my code currently http://pastebin.com/1pzwYD0K which in a main class. THen it start chain with process method, then call processNext for each chain and then inside each chain call next processNext :P | 18:54 |
| JontheEchidna | ...unless of course the display freezes, in which case I must reboot | 18:54 |
| oxymoron | But now I ALSO need to make process recursively chainable as well :P | 18:54 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: you reboot so fast? | 18:55 |
| oxymoron | IF any element contain a decorator with decorations it should call process and call that chain before previous one :P | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer | oxymoron: so basically its recursive ? | 18:55 |
| oxymoron | Right now I just get an infinite loop :P | 18:55 |
| oxymoron | shadeslayer: Yes | 18:55 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: keep in mind that the connection had to time out | 18:55 |
| JontheEchidna | but I can reboot in about 40 seconds, yeah | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | you need to add some conditions | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: sweet | 18:56 |
| oxymoron | shadeslayer: Or well from beginning I only had Iterator and Chain pattern. But now I need to make it recursive as well :P | 18:56 |
| oxymoron | shadeslayer: Conditions? | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | oxymoron: conditions that will break the loop | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | oxymoron: simplest example in C++ for this is the factorial function | 18:57 |
| oxymoron | shadeslayer: Yes, "if (key($this->positions) !== null) {" if null, then return $this->xml | 18:57 |
| oxymoron | shadeslayer: The problem is that each element calls processNext in itself :P | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | well you need to assign null at some point of time then | 18:58 |
| shadeslayer | within this function | 18:58 |
| oxymoron | Could be infinite loop anywhere in the chain, doesnt need to be in process or processNext methods in themselves :P | 18:58 |
| oxymoron | Yes when theres no more elements in ArrayIterator it will return null automaticly ;) | 18:58 |
| shadeslayer | oxymoron: is there somewhere your assigning null to positions ? | 18:58 |
| shadeslayer | idk php.. keep that in mind :) | 18:59 |
| oxymoron | shadeslayer: Theres always associative or integer keys, cant assign null as a key for an element. | 18:59 |
| shadeslayer | oxymoron: uh | 18:59 |
| shadeslayer | do i read this right? | 18:59 |
| shadeslayer | i think theres a issue with braces | 18:59 |
| oxymoron | shadeslayer: In an array, same in C++ as well I think. You cannot do $array[null] = element1 | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | function opens at line 12 | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | closes at 21 | 19:00 |
| oxymoron | No the code itself is correct | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | and we have else after line 21 0_o | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | oh wait.. another brace there | 19:00 |
| shadeslayer | no idea mate :) | 19:01 |
| oxymoron | No need to worry about code, I need help with the logic thinking. I am also open for alternatives how to solve it. | 19:01 |
| oxymoron | What I am trying todo, is to make a form generator which have one global decorator which all elements and everything uses and each element should be able to decorate itself infinite times :P | 19:02 |
| oxymoron | Ive been stryggling with this for ages. I have a working one, but not working the elegant way with complete recursion and effiency. | 19:03 |
| oxymoron | In the one with only chain reaction and iteration, I overdo everything and call methods and classes for nothing and one to many times :P I am trying to make less class files to make code faster. | 19:04 |
| JontheEchidna | It's so teeny-tiny: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopyl4429 | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: your making the interface? ^_^ | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | ( the upgrade interface ) | 19:38 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: I figure I can make the initial version in an hour or two | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | please do share the code... ill try to make sense of it :P | 19:38 |
| ulysses | However it's Muon, but not Muon's fault the problem: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/images/muon/virtuoso_opensource.png | 19:39 |
| JontheEchidna | it can show upgradeable packages now: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopzh4429 | 19:49 |
| shadeslayer | nice | 19:50 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: is virtuoso fixed? | 19:52 |
| JontheEchidna | the file overwrite errors? yeah | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | uploaded as well? | 19:52 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 19:52 |
| JontheEchidna | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtuoso-opensource/6.1.2+dfsg1-1ubuntu3 | 19:52 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: can you sync choqok then ? ^.^ | 19:53 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm not an archive admin | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | awww | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | only archive admins can sync? | 19:53 |
| JontheEchidna | right | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.ca/1906159 << line 21 | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | please explain if anyone can | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | if text changes in lineEdit object it gives a signal texChanged? | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | *textChanged | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | ah its a inbuilt function :) | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | uh.. s/function/signal | 19:59 |
| JontheEchidna | http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopgq4429 | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | you finished it :P | 20:00 |
| JontheEchidna | nah, those buttons don't do anything yet | 20:00 |
| JontheEchidna | I still need another half hour, but I have to run an errand | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | ahh :D | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | you mean you need to just connect them | 20:01 |
| bulldog98 | new kdevelop release happend | 20:24 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: im working on it | 20:24 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: for me it worked | 20:24 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer+ | 20:24 |
| shadeslayer | but JontheEchidna broke virtuoso | 20:24 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: what worked? | 20:25 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: the workaround worked | 20:25 |
| shadeslayer | uh.. what workaround? :) | 20:25 |
| bulldog98 | there is already an bug open and JontheEchidna’s workaround worked for me (aptitude is powerful) | 20:25 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: he fixed it in main archive | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | it should be hitting me anytime now | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | then i can continue on | 20:26 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: also good | 20:26 |
| bulldog98 | ^^ | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: yeah, connect the slots and do a few custom things that will work differently in updater mode | 20:38 |
| bulldog98 | is someone taking care of kdevelop-php? | 21:06 |
| JontheEchidna | yay, muon --updater works | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: muon ++ | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: but i found a bug in muon | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 21:09 |
| JontheEchidna | exactly half an hour after I returned ;) | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | when commiting changes.... it does not show progress barr | 21:09 |
| shadeslayer | *bar | 21:09 |
| JontheEchidna | hrm | 21:09 |
| JontheEchidna | I've seen that, but only sometimes | 21:10 |
| JontheEchidna | not been able to figure out why yet | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | well.. i just installed some dev files and could not see it :P | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | lemme uninstall some old kernels | 21:10 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: its working now | 21:12 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, only sometimes | 21:12 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 21:12 |
| JontheEchidna | I've not yet attempted to debug it | 21:12 |
| bulldog98 | JontheEchidna: is there an PPA up for testing? | 21:13 |
| JontheEchidna | bulldog98: ppa:echidnaman/qapt | 21:14 |
| bulldog98 | JontheEchidna: ok, other question has it aptitude support or is that planed? | 21:15 |
| JontheEchidna | what would aptitude support be? | 21:15 |
| * shadeslayer lol's | 21:15 | |
| bulldog98 | JontheEchidna: using aptitude in the background | 21:15 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: aptitude has been removed from Ubuntu ( as in live CD ) | 21:16 |
| JontheEchidna | It uses libapt-pkg (apt) as its backend, and that's not planned to change | 21:16 |
| JontheEchidna | there is already somebody working on aptitude-qt for GSoC anyways :) | 21:17 |
| JontheEchidna | hum | 21:17 |
| JontheEchidna | muon(8373) CommitWidget::setProgress: -1074299320 | 21:17 |
| JontheEchidna | I bet that's why there is no progress in the progress bar | 21:17 |
| bulldog98 | JontheEchidna: hum but KpackageKit is not usable for me and I love Konsole so -> aptitude | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: http://pastebin.ca/1906231 | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | i dont suppose we need those right? | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | because they will be stripped | 21:22 |
| JontheEchidna | right | 21:23 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: they go into the l10n package | 21:23 |
| shadeslayer | kdevelop almost done then | 21:23 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: no.. LP imports them afaik | 21:23 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: but they are in kdevelop-l10n-LANG | 21:24 |
| JontheEchidna | only in the ppa packages^ | 21:24 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: ^^ | 21:24 |
| JontheEchidna | they are stripped in Ubuntu, and those packages are empty | 21:24 |
| shadeslayer | seems we need to drop a lang pack | 21:25 |
| bulldog98 | JontheEchidna: but I want lokalisation -,- | 21:25 |
| bulldog98 | ^^ | 21:25 |
| JontheEchidna | bulldog98: they are in language-pack-kde-* | 21:25 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: uh... i has usr/share/locale/pt in debian/kdevelop-l10n-pt.install | 21:26 |
| shadeslayer | now im all konfused | 21:26 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: stripping happens after packages are built | 21:27 |
| JontheEchidna | you can put the missing files in the .install files for the sake of cleanliness | 21:27 |
| shadeslayer | ok.. so i do need to put them in install files.... | 21:27 |
| JontheEchidna | and l10n in ppas based of the packages | 21:27 |
| shadeslayer | ill do that... | 21:27 |
| shadeslayer | i want to keep dh_install --list-missing happy ^_^ | 21:27 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: but we would want usr/share/mime/packages/kdevelop.xml tho | 21:28 |
| JontheEchidna | yes | 21:28 |
| JontheEchidna | that's not translations | 21:28 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 21:29 |
| shadeslayer | i guess that goes into the -data package | 21:29 |
| shadeslayer | or the kdevelop.install ? | 21:29 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: -data | 21:30 |
| CIA-33 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1153225 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/workerinstallprogress.cpp (log message trimmed) | 21:30 |
| CIA-33 | Fix a bug where percentage would only be calculated when the percent was | 21:30 |
| CIA-33 | fractional. This happened because when I added support for fractional | 21:30 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: also, ^ | 21:31 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 21:31 |
| shadeslayer | muon++ | 21:31 |
| JontheEchidna | technically LibQApt | 21:31 |
| JontheEchidna | well | 21:31 |
| JontheEchidna | technically the QApt worker | 21:31 |
| CIA-33 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1153226 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (worker.cpp workerinstallprogress.cpp) debug-- | 21:32 |
| yofel | ~karma muon | 21:34 |
| kubotu | karma for muon: 4 | 21:34 |
| maxwellian | shadeslayer: Sorry to be a bit behind, but what's this about aptitude being removed from Ubuntu? | 21:35 |
| * maxwellian loves aptitude... :( | 21:35 | |
| yofel | only o.O? | 21:35 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 21:35 |
| shadeslayer | maxwellian: http://ubuntuedge.wordpress.com/ | 21:35 |
| yofel | maxwellian: removed from live dist | 21:35 |
| yofel | *disk | 21:35 |
| shadeslayer | keep visiting that :D | 21:35 |
| shadeslayer | second post from the top | 21:35 |
| maxwellian | yofel: Ah, thanks for the clarification. | 21:36 |
| maxwellian | shadeslayer: Awesome, thanks. | 21:36 |
| * yofel looks at the 17405 unread feed entries in akregator | 21:36 | |
| yofel | where the hell should I start... | 21:36 |
| maxwellian | shadeslayer: I'm still using Karmic on this machine... :| | 21:36 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 21:36 |
| maxwellian | shadeslayer: Are you a programmer? | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer | maxwellian: i do know C++ | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer | but that would be it | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer | learning Qt atm | 21:37 |
| maxwellian | shadeslayer: Well that's something. I was just asking because I thought I overheard you earlier saying you didn't do much programming yet. | 21:38 |
| maxwellian | shadeslayer: But you seem very active in maintaining packages somehow. | 21:38 |
| shadeslayer | maxwellian: ah.. i dont program much atm.. im more in packaging :) | 21:38 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: https://buildd.debian.org/plasma-widget-fastuserswitch | 21:39 |
| shadeslayer | we will need to sync that too | 21:39 |
| shadeslayer | once its onto the debian servers | 21:39 |
| shadeslayer | ok.. what would the nl and sl translations be for | 21:40 |
| shadeslayer | i cant make out :/ | 21:40 |
| shadeslayer | like which languages | 21:40 |
| shadeslayer | ah dutch | 21:41 |
| yofel | isn't nl netherlands? | 21:41 |
| maxwellian | shadeslayer: Ah, well you seem to be kicking butt. You're going to be quite a force when you get more into the bug fixing side! :P | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | maxwellian: already on there too :D | 21:41 |
| maxwellian | shadeslayer: Awesome. :) | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | maxwellian: well.. theyre more of packaging bugs :P | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | maxwellian: see https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg | 21:41 |
| maxwellian | shadeslayer: Well keep up the good work, hopefully I'll be able to help as much as you do not too far in the future! :) | 21:45 |
| * maxwellian o/\o shadeslayer | 21:45 | |
| shadeslayer | maxwellian: oh sure :D | 21:45 |
| shadeslayer | o/ | 21:45 |
| shadeslayer | feel free to ask anything | 21:46 |
| maxwellian | shadeslayer: Thanks I will. (I was trying to do a high five, by the way :) ). | 21:48 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 21:48 |
| * shadeslayer high fives back | 21:48 | |
| * maxwellian feels redeemed :) | 21:48 | |
| maxwellian | Are you guys using a vm or something for maverick? | 21:50 |
| * maxwellian 's hardware sucks so bad he doesn't think a vm is an option... :\ | 21:51 | |
| JontheEchidna | I've been running maverick since the archives opened. I did have to reinstall once, though | 21:51 |
| maxwellian | JontheEchidna: Running it full time? | 21:52 |
| JontheEchidna | yep. I am crazy | 21:52 |
| * maxwellian agrees :P | 21:52 | |
| maxwellian | JontheEchidna: But since most of the development is being applied to Maverick, does that mean that you get to see lots of bugs disappear from your day-to-day stuff? | 21:53 |
| maxwellian | JontheEchidna: I'm on Karmic, so most bug fixes going on I'm not going to see until I upgrade. | 21:53 |
| JontheEchidna | the most visible parts are the fixes from KDE | 21:53 |
| shadeslayer | maxwellian: same here | 21:53 |
| shadeslayer | im on maverick as well | 21:53 |
| shadeslayer | and im more krazy | 21:53 |
| shadeslayer | since i have btrfs \o/ | 21:54 |
| maxwellian | shadeslayer: Great, another nut. ;) | 21:54 |
| JontheEchidna | which are nice and noticable when you get the next KDE prerelease | 21:54 |
| JontheEchidna | but mostly, you see when things break :P | 21:54 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ totally | 21:54 |
| JontheEchidna | and then you wonder who the idiot was who broke them, and then find out it was you | 21:54 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: also dont install btrfs ... its fast on the first boot but gets slower | 21:54 |
| * maxwellian looks up btrfs | 21:54 | |
| maxwellian | JontheEchidna: Heh. :) | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer | s/install/install with | 21:55 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: I don't want to reformat without backing up, and I don't have anything to back up on to yet | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer | maxwellian: its a new generation file syste, | 21:55 |
| JontheEchidna | so I won't be switching for a while | 21:55 |
| * shadeslayer gives JontheEchidna his 1TB external HD | 21:55 | |
| JontheEchidna | I only switched /home to ext4 when I got my new laptop in december | 21:55 |
| JontheEchidna | (root has been running ext4 since lucid prereleases) | 21:56 |
| shadeslayer | :o | 21:56 |
| maxwellian | JontheEchidna: Can you change filesystems without a reformat? | 21:56 |
| * maxwellian O_o | 21:56 | |
| JontheEchidna | maxwellian: apparently you can with btrfs, since they are similar enough | 21:57 |
| shadeslayer | maxwellian: ext3->ext4 yest | 21:57 |
| shadeslayer | *yes | 21:57 |
| shadeslayer | dont know about btrfs | 21:57 |
| JontheEchidna | but sure as hell wouldn't trust a live conversion | 21:57 |
| JontheEchidna | *but I sure | 21:57 |
| shadeslayer | also.. btrfs.fsck() == fail | 21:57 |
| shadeslayer | need to report a bug on that | 21:58 |
| JontheEchidna | anyways, it's quittin' time. bbiab | 21:58 |
| * maxwellian waves at JontheEchidna | 21:58 | |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: who will upload kdevelop :( | 21:58 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: the checking tool only runs offline | 21:58 |
| bulldog98 | and it’s knowen | 21:58 |
| shadeslayer | its almost done.. running it through pbuilder | 21:58 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: offline? | 21:59 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: yes only if you do it without having the filesystem mounted it won’t distroy your data | 22:00 |
| shadeslayer | gah | 22:00 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: my new rootfilesystem is btrfs on my Desktop | 22:04 |
| shadeslayer | nice.. still.. ext4 seems better for now | 22:04 |
| shadeslayer | when Beta 1 is released ill re format | 22:04 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: btrfs supports online snapshots | 22:05 |
| bulldog98 | and lvm replacement | 22:05 |
| bulldog98 | (only raid0) | 22:05 |
| shadeslayer | but its slow | 22:05 |
| shadeslayer | so whats the point | 22:06 |
| shadeslayer | dont really care about snapshots | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: use KVM! | 22:06 |
| shadeslayer | kvm? you mean virtualise ubuntu? :o | 22:07 |
| yofel | well most people use lucid and run maverick in kvm | 22:07 |
| * yofel uses maverick and runs lucid in kvm :P | 22:08 | |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 22:08 |
| * shadeslayer just runs maverick | 22:08 | |
| shadeslayer | love to watch stuff break | 22:08 |
| * shadeslayer should be asleep right now | 22:08 | |
| yofel | shadeslayer: you should idle around in #ubuntu+1 from time to time though if you're running maverick.. | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | meh.. just a formality :P | 22:09 |
| yofel | hey it's usually a nice bunch there (me included :P) | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | ill get slaughtered when they get to know i broke their systems | 22:10 |
| yofel | erm, ususally they won't be able to tell if it was you or maverick *g* | 22:10 |
| * maxwellian wishes his processor supported KVM... :( | 22:13 | |
| maxwellian | Actually it's a non-issue, because I have 1G of RAM total, and like 4G of hard drive free. | 22:14 |
| maxwellian | There's no single bottleneck there. My computer just fails. | 22:14 |
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| yofel | Riddell: do you know if we can get python-cupsutils from debian in maverick? (bug 602343) | 22:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 602343 in kdeadmin (Ubuntu) "systemsettings crashed with ImportError in <module>() "No module named cupsutils.ppds"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/602343 | 22:52 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: does it build fine on ubuntu? | 22:53 |
| shadeslayer | without any mods | 22:54 |
| yofel | I'm just looking into that | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer | wtf... | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer | what did i upload :/ | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer | ugh | 22:56 |
| yofel | Riddell: scratch that, more like system-config-printer-kde needs to be patched to use the ubuntu cupshelpers instead of debian cupsutils | 23:07 |
| Quintasan | another task for apachelogger | 23:11 |
| Quintasan | :P | 23:11 |
| Quintasan | python-- | 23:11 |
| Quintasan | humm it's friday here | 23:12 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Happy B-day! :D | 23:12 |
| yofel | here too | 23:12 |
| yofel | oh | 23:13 |
| yofel | apachelogger: happy birthday ;) | 23:13 |
| yofel | ~karma python | 23:15 |
| kubotu | karma for python: -17 | 23:15 |
| yofel | python-- | 23:15 |
| shadeslayer | python-- | 23:17 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: apachelogger kdevelop 4.0.1 can be found here https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+files/kdevelop_4.0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc | 23:19 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: apachelogger more info https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+packages | 23:19 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: great | 23:41 |
| Riddell | yofel: yes we need to fix system-config-printer-kde, I've not looked into it yet, if you have a patch that would rock very much | 23:42 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: i did try to patch it with a given patch in bug report | 23:42 |
| shadeslayer | it fails :/ | 23:42 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: remind me about choqok in the morning | 23:42 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: define morning :D ( its 4.15 AM here ) | 23:43 |
| yofel | Riddell: maverick: I did manage to fix it up a bit so it doesn't crash on start, but then it doesn't do much thanks to pyqt erroring out and I don't know how to fix that | 23:43 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: morning in Prague :) | 23:44 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 23:44 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: 9 hours time | 23:44 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 23:44 |
| Riddell | yofel: post what you have to kubuntu-devel so it doesn't get lost then | 23:45 |
| maxwellian | Awwww, why hate on Python? :( | 23:45 |
| yofel | maxwellian: because we would have noticed that at build time with c++ | 23:45 |
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