* Quintasan needs to pester Launchpad admins00:22
DarkwingDuckHey guys... Interesting problem.02:30
DarkwingDuckI get freeze with 64bit 10.04... But not with 32bit02:31
claydohso, would apt see 4:4.4.92a-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 as newer than  4:4.4.92-0ubuntu3? 02:43
claydohsommeone in forum.kde.org upgraded to Maverick and can't install kdelibs5-dev :/02:44
macoRiddell: wouldve liked it if you had such plans :-/02:54
DarkwingDuck\Hey maco, thanks for covering for me for user days. :/02:54
macoDarkwingDuck: np02:55
DarkwingDuckmaco: saved me but, it was needed...02:56
ScottKclaydoh: Yes.04:12
soreauCan anyone tell me the difference between kdelibs4-dev and kdelibs5-dev?05:32
soreau Ultimately I'm trying to figure out which deps are needed to build kde4-window-decorator for compiz05:32
soreaugot it07:38
Riddellclaydoh: yes 4:4.4.92a-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 will be "newer" than 4:4.4.92-0ubuntu308:57
Riddellwhere does that come from?08:57
RiddellQt building on ARM, fingers crossed08:57
* ulysses crosses fingers09:04
QuintasanRiddell: ha, ha, now we are fighting to import kdelibs, someone did that some time ago and now it's borked09:18
RiddellQuintasan: import where?09:23
Quintasanto Launchpad09:24
RiddellQuintasan: did you need a quota increase?09:26
QuintasanRiddell: yes we did09:26
Quintasanwe still do09:26
RiddellQuintasan: what's the question number?09:26
QuintasanRiddell: https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/11776209:27
RiddellI wonder what "opening for losas" means09:28
Riddellah, Launchpad and Landscape Operational Systems Administrators09:29
Riddellhmm, I don't think I know any of those people09:29
Riddellguess I can just add my support09:29
Quintasanwould be great09:32
Riddellcan anyone actually get crash reports from drkonqi in maverick yet?09:45
* Quintasan fires up maverick machine09:45
Riddellstart a KDE app, kill -SEGV <pid>  check backtrace09:46
Riddellapachelogger: kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts uploaded09:47
RiddellQuintasan: does neon need launchpad imports?09:51
QuintasanRiddell: yes, recipes need code to be in launchpad09:52
RiddellScottK: spoke to arne about im-switch using zenity, seems it's only used for features that language-selector does anyway so he's going to remove it from im-switch and we don't have to care about porting to kdialog10:08
=== persia` is now known as persia
shadeslayerRiddell: brr... every app krashes here when i close it10:45
Riddelluh oh10:46
shadeslayerRiddell: and yes i get a backtrace10:46
Riddellwell that's something10:48
shadeslayeri think it was fixed in the last updates or something10:48
shadeslayerapachelogger knows about it i think10:48
shadeslayeralso.. qoauth is still in universe :(10:49
shadeslayerand kdevelop 4.0.1 was released10:49
shadeslayerim working on it10:49
RiddellGet: 1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main libqoauth1 1.0-2ubuntu1 [28.5kB]10:52
Riddellit's in main ^^10:52
shadeslayerweird.. lp page still shows universe :S10:53
shadeslayerRiddell:  Quintasan https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/11776210:54
shadeslayergo for project Neon !10:54
shadeslayerRiddell: can you sync bug 60786410:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 607864 in qoauth (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qoauth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60786410:55
shadeslayerwrong bug 10:56
shadeslayerbug 60837810:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 608378 in choqok (Ubuntu) "Sync choqok 0.9.81-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60837810:56
shadeslayerbut unfortunately : https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/kdelibs : :/10:58
shadeslayerQuintasan: ^^10:58
sheytanwhat package should i install for qt development files?11:06
shadeslayersheytan: libqt4-dev11:06
sheytanshadeslayer, thanks11:06
Riddellhi sheytan, saw your web design, looks pretty11:07
sheytanRiddell Thank you :)11:07
Riddellwe are 90% of the way there with a new design which has taken many month11:07
Riddellso we're not looking for new designs now, hassle enough to get the one we have been working on for the last year up11:08
Riddellbut when it's launched then we will want to look into how to improve it of course11:08
sheytanhey guys, can someone take a look at this http://pastebin.com/234pfdN811:08
sheytanLooks like the problem happens only in kubuntu11:08
sheytani complied this on slackware without any problem11:09
shadeslayerbluedevil == new bluetooth manager right?11:09
sheytanshadeslayer yes11:09
shadeslayerno idea :P11:10
sheytanfirst when i had this error, i thought it was libbluedevil related. Then i complied the same sources on slackware fine11:10
\shsheytan: looks like libqt4-dev is not installed11:10
sheytan\sh it is :/11:10
sheytanmaybe the package misses some stuff11:10
\shhardcoded -I paths inside the makesystem?11:11
sheytan\sh don't even know what this is :D11:11
sheytani installed kdebase and kdelibs dev packages11:11
sheytanand qt devel package11:11
sheytanother programs compile fine11:12
\shsheytan: inside the makesystem of this tool, it could be that one of compiler flags is set hardcoded to a different include path for qt include files11:12
shadeslayer^^ might want to check cmakelists.txt11:12
sheytanthis is cmakelists http://pastebin.com/GH2NscPh11:13
sheytan\sh shadeslayer might it be that in kubuntu i have qt 4.7?11:15
sheytani mean, can 4.7 couses the problem11:15
shadeslayerno idea...11:15
shadeslayercould be11:15
shadeslayerim not sure tho11:15
yofelhm, is there a gui to do release upgrades in kubuntu? (or do we use update-manager for that too) 11:15
shadeslayeryofel: update-manager11:15
\shsheytan: pointer to the source release? 11:17
sheytan\sh don't know what you mean :)11:17
\shsheytan: from where did  you get the sourcecode?11:17
sheytan\sh http://gitorious.org/libbluedevil11:17
\shI bet something is wrong with the default QT4_INCLUDE_PATH, eventually that the makesystem is not finding the correct location....11:21
\shdon't have the time yet to check 11:21
sheytan\sh ok, thanks anyway :)11:21
Riddellit's only a problem in that test/ directory11:29
Riddelleverything else has the right includes as the compile line11:29
Riddellif I comment out test in bluedevil/CMakeLists.txt it finishes fine11:32
shadeslayertest fail :P11:32
shadeslayerRiddell: is it possible to resume building from pbuilder if there was a error and i dropped to shell to fix it?11:42
shadeslayermeh.. anyways.. im off to make my training report... :>11:44
RiddellI don't know, I don't use pbuilder for anything other than a final check11:45
JontheEchidnaRiddell: would you mind pushing virtuoso-opensource through new queue? soprano is sort've broken until the new packages get through. (an oversight on my part)12:43
* apachelogger is wondering what to get for lunch :S12:49
RiddellJontheEchidna: let me look12:50
JontheEchidnaRiddell: thanks12:52
shadeslayerQuintasan: poke..12:53
shadeslayerdude.. where did you store your recipie ?12:56
apacheloggerin his cookbook ^^12:57
shadeslayerthe Qt recipe i mean 12:58
* apachelogger looks13:02
* apachelogger starves13:02
* shadeslayer gives apachelogger some food13:02
* apachelogger supposedly will just command his bike to take him to some establishment where one can obtain meals13:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: sudo make_me_a_sandwich13:03
apacheloggerI think no sudo necesary there13:04
apacheloggeralso no raw ingredients are available so that will fail13:04
apacheloggerOMG it is like a 30000 degree celsius outside13:05
apacheloggerand who invented hair -.-13:08
apacheloggerwell then, I am off looking for someting to eat o/13:10
MrDarkUserHi, I'm  really struggling  with getting a kde build enviornment set up, I am attempting to use kdesrc-build and have some pastebins.13:15
MrDarkUserif anybody cares13:15
RiddellMrDarkUser: looks like an error in libstreamanalyzer13:24
MrDarkUserRiddell: I was told to do something with nm by another person, and found that there is that symbol13:25
MrDarkUserin the libstreamanalyser.so.0.7,  I don't know why that matters13:25
MrDarkUserI'm running kdesrc-build and have no idea what to do next13:26
MrDarkUserI followed the kdesrc-build documentation at kdesrc-build.kde.org and the onlything that is funny about my system is it is kubuntu 10.04 32bit with the kde4.5ppa on it13:27
MrDarkUserand I don't see how a conflict could come ppa vs reglar 10.0413:27
MrDarkUserRiddell: I have plenty of time, I just don't know what else I can do13:28
RiddellMrDarkUser: do you have libstreamanalyzer-dev installed?13:29
jtechidnaRiddell: thanks13:31
=== jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna
MrDarkUserRiddell: yes. I know there are a lot of busy people out there, I've gotten similar errors when I tried opensuse as a base, and ended up going back to kubuntu and successfully building the 4.5 branch, I'm thinking that I might have to pay somebody to guide me thru this13:41
RiddellMrDarkUser: are you interested in any paticular part of KDE?  personally I don't build a whole separate development environment, I just use packages for the bits I don't care about and only compile the bit I'm working on13:59
MrDarkUserI'm wanting to play with plasma panel behavior, and the fileview parts of dolphin, so getting into kdelibs a bit14:00
MrDarkUser(I think I wore out the kde-devel guy who had started to help me, and I think there is something broken with the kdesrc-build program)14:03
Adri2000I'm trying to add and configure a news widget using plasma scripting (in lucid)14:38
RiddellMrDarkUser: so I'd just checkout kdelibs and compile only that14:40
txwikingerwhy does kded4 create 100s of defunct children?14:40
Riddelltxwikinger: doesn't here14:40
txwikingerRiddell: I think you need to hibernate14:41
Adri2000(and had troubles with using writeConfig(), but looks like it gonna work now :-))14:41
Riddelltxwikinger: I've suspended lots, no defunct processes here14:41
txwikingerWell. I think it only does it with hibernate14:42
txwikingerActually I have 2 defuncts on my desktop which neither hibernates nor suspends14:42
txwikingerbut on my netbook I have 2472 now14:42
txwikingerhehe killing the main kded4 process has really unny effects14:44
txwikingerRiddell: I can reproduce it every time14:47
RiddellJontheEchidna: install-package breaks for me when run through language-selector, so that would be a nice first target for qapt-batch :)15:00
Quintasangod damn it15:00
Quintasanstupid python15:00
* txwikinger thinks it sounds like a problem between the chair and the keyboard15:01
Quintasan< maxb> Quintasan: Only by someone first fixing bug 57949115:01
Quintasantxwikinger: and guess what is the problem?15:01
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/579491)15:01
JontheEchidnaRiddell: sure. I have kubuntu-notification-helper, kubuntu-firefox-installer and kubuntu-debug-installer already ported in bzr.15:02
JontheEchidnaRiddell: I just want to wait for the libqapt beta release (which is also API freeze) to do my symbols file-ing15:02
JontheEchidnathen I can file the MIR15:02
Quintasanapachelogger: give me an axe or something, I'm going to Python devs15:02
JontheEchidnabeta is planned a week from yesterday15:03
* txwikinger wonders if an axe is the right tool to fix anything like that15:04
Quintasantxwikinger: Trust me, for Python, it will work flawlessly15:05
QuintasanEliminating the cause if the best solution for any problem15:05
txwikingerQuintasan: I told you .. the cause sits between chair and keyboard15:06
shadeslayerQuintasan: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52316355/buildlog.txt.gz << hahahaha15:06
Quintasantxwikinger: Are you implying that launchpad devs are the cause of python being faulty?15:06
CIA-33[muon] jmthomas * 1153095 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonMainWindow.cpp (log message trimmed)15:06
CIA-33Use a KMessageBox::detailedError for presenting our queued errors, since the15:06
CIA-33text isn't selectable in KMessageBox::errorList. This is not ideal as a very15:06
shadeslayercommit message cut off ^^ 15:07
* txwikinger thinks he did not imply anything15:07
* txwikinger checks defunct process after reboot15:08
CIA-33[libqapt] jmthomas * 1153096 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Mirror revision 1153095 in qapt-batch15:09
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1153095&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 115309515:09
CIA-33[libqapt] jmthomas * 1153098 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp ...and also don't forget about the newlines15:09
shadeslayerheh.... ubottu joins CIA-33 in fillinf chan logs15:09
* shadeslayer shoots keyboard....15:09
txwikingershadeslayer: The problem is between the chair and the keyboard15:10
shadeslayertxwikinger: no.. the problem is the keyboard :P15:10
CIA-33[muon] jmthomas * 1153103 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) Muon can technically handle reloading after software-properties-kde finishes, but it has to ask authorization since muon isn't run as root. Therefore, let software-properties-kde take care of things15:21
JontheEchidnammm, latest intel driver crack. brb rebooting15:30
shadeslayernew drivers break my pretty boot screen :|15:33
apacheloggerQuintasan: you are very agressive young man15:35
* Trouble slaps Virtuoso around a bit with a large trout16:01
JontheEchidnaya, sorry about the overwrites. a fix is building16:02
shadeslayerTrouble: sudo apt-get -f install16:02
* Trouble slaps JontheEchidna around a bit with a large trout :-p16:02
Troubleta shadeslayer16:02
* Trouble hugs JontheEchidna and shadeslayer16:05
shadeslayeruh oh...16:12
shadeslayerits never good when Trouble hugs you ... ^_^16:12
davmor2shadeslayer: let me guess your day goes downhill from here on in ;)16:33
* Trouble visits apachelogger16:39
apacheloggerTrouble: too hot for trouble really16:41
ScottKapachelogger: But don't you suffer from the problem that anywhere you're locate gets unnaturally hot due to some of the hotness rubbing off?16:43
apacheloggerwell observed, but usually it does not get that hot!16:44
shadeslayerdavmor2: its night here :p16:50
Riddelldantti: what's the status (if any) of your printer tools and packagekit app view?16:53
danttiRiddell: two kids and a wife on vacations at home :P16:53
Riddellyou've got a whole team to do the coding for you :)16:54
danttiRiddell: well aptcc got the bits for debconf, and distro-upgrade works but the file is not installing on the right place16:54
Riddelldantti: which file?16:54
danttiRiddell: get-distro-upgrade.py16:56
danttihmm actually it's not even being installed16:56
Riddelldantti: that sounds like an easy issue to solve though, should we try and get aptcc in for alpha 3 next week?16:57
danttisure we can make a patch for that should not be hard just a path issue16:57
danttithen the most important I'll try to fix now16:58
danttiwhen packagekitd quits packagekit-qt stops receiving signals when packagekitd comes back16:58
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: hehe... looks like your upload causes  this : http://pastebin.ca/190606216:59
danttiin kubuntu 10.4 (kpk 0.5) has the problem too :(16:59
danttiand I have no idea why this happens :P16:59
Riddelldantti: groovy, can you e-mail me where to grab the code or patch for aptcc when it's sensible to upload?  16:59
danttiRiddell: k, no problem when is the dead line?17:00
Riddelltuesday is freeze so before monday evening17:00
danttihmmm that's not nice, can kpk and debconf-qt be pushed after?17:01
danttinext week I'll probably have much more time17:01
danttiRiddell: k, k so for you it's better to fix packagekit aptcc and the qt lib right?17:02
Riddellbetter than what?17:02
danttiI mean tuesday is freeze but you said kpk and debconf-qt can be pushed after so I'd like to know what is more important...17:03
Riddelloh only freeze for alpha 3, we can put stuff in after alpha 3 (Thursday)17:03
RiddellFeatureFreeze is august 12th17:04
Riddellso it's nice to get aptcc in for alpha 3 to get testing, but if it's after that's fine too17:04
* Riddell out17:04
shadeslayerRiddell: please sync choqok before archive freezes17:08
danttiRiddell: btw it would be good to have this bug fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/18812717:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 188127 in apt (Ubuntu) "Update manager shows warning that system was not updated for a long time (not true)" [Medium,Invalid]17:08
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/AueyK << the mark for unmark button isnt really helpful ^_^17:12
danttiJontheEchidna: we still need to copy the cmake file to use debconf-kde right?17:19
JontheEchidnadantti: copy the cmake file?17:36
JontheEchidnadantti: it should be  in a place where find(Debconf-Kde) should find it17:36
danttiJontheEchidna: yes the debconf foo stuff17:36
JontheEchidnaIn muon I'm just doing find_package(DebconfKDE REQUIRED) and it works17:37
danttiJontheEchidna: but what if debconf is not installed?17:37
JontheEchidnadebconf or debconf-kde?17:38
JontheEchidnaIf debconf-kde is not present, it won't build, as it can't build without it. It doesn't require debconf itself to build, but packages should ensure that it is installed17:39
JontheEchidnapackages with debconf questions already depend on debconf, so we shouldn't have to worry about a runtime dependency17:39
kdepepohi, how can I find kubuntu specific patches to KDE? I am specifically looking for a diff of kdebase in LTS 10.0417:44
shadeslayerkdepepo: diff of kdebase?17:46
kdepepo(if any, compared to upstream)17:46
shadeslayerkdepepo: all our packaging is @ code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members17:46
shadeslayerso you can see what interests you there 17:46
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: that's trunk17:47
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: uh what?17:47
JontheEchidnahe wants 10.0417:47
JontheEchidnabzr is trunk17:47
shadeslayerright you are....17:47
shadeslayerkdepepo: ^^17:48
JontheEchidnakdepepo: these were what were shipped with 10.04: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase/ubuntu/files/109/debian/patches/17:48
kdepepoah nice, thanks JontheEchidna17:49
danttiJontheEchidna: right but for kpk i need it to build witouth it since fedora doesn't have debconf... :P17:50
JontheEchidnaifdef DEBCONF_IS_ENABLED?17:50
JontheEchidnaor something like that17:51
JontheEchidnayou'd probably have to set a macro if debconf-kde is found17:51
JontheEchidnathen ifdef that in the code17:51
danttican i ifndef the cmakefile?17:51
danttihmm k17:51
JontheEchidnaRiddell, apachelogger: The scripts should probably be updated to depend on libkdecore5 rather than kdelibs5, since kdelibs5 is a transitional package18:11
JontheEchidnaoh, the scripts for kde-l10n-*18:11
apacheloggerthere is no scripts18:12
apacheloggerwhat scripts18:12
apacheloggeryou did not read my guide to master the kde-l10n clearly :P18:13
JontheEchidnaI thought you used magic scripts18:13
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide18:13
apacheloggerthe scripts only use the powers of the universe to make one packaging branch apply to some 50 packages18:13
JontheEchidnaah, so we just need to update the packaging branch18:14
JontheEchidnathen next build it'll automagically propogate to all l10n18:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: we can make something like klippy in kword ^_^18:16
CIA-33[kde-l10n-common] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100722171803-u0xjyxnyv8tro1i6 * debian/control Depend on libkdecore5 rather than the transitional kdelibs518:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: you gotta think bigger... how about klippy for KDE18:20
apacheloggerktip -> klippy18:20
apacheloggerthis would be so sexy18:20
JontheEchidnaI can almost remove kdelibs5 from my system: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopce162018:20
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: did you get my message earlier ? :)18:24
shadeslayerthe one about http://imgur.com/AueyK18:24
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/AueyK << the mark for unmark button isnt really helpful ^_^18:24
JontheEchidnaI guess it shouldn't show the mark for: label when the only action is unmark18:25
shadeslayeror maybe,be a little more descriptive18:26
shadeslayerUnmark for upgrade18:26
shadeslayeror .. Do not Upgrade18:26
JontheEchidnawill have to wait for the next release after 1.0. We're in string freeze now18:26
shadeslayerno problem18:26
shadeslayerjust remember it :P18:26
JontheEchidnaI could hide the label without breaking string freeze in the meanwhile18:26
shadeslayerplease do ... its confusing :D18:27
oxymoronDoes somebody know if there is some kind of app in KDE/Kubuntu which is able to make flow schemes. I need it to make relationships and logic schemes when programming a really complex thing.18:27
shadeslayeroh oh.. muon doesnt work when db is locked and apt dies18:27
shadeslayer!aptfix 18:27
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:27
shadeslayerand you have to manually run ^^18:27
JontheEchidnaoxymoron: umbrello?18:28
JontheEchidna!info umbrello18:28
ubottuumbrello (source: kdesdk): UML modelling tool and code generator. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 2150 kB, installed size 9952 kB18:28
JontheEchidnahmm, the short description isn't very helpful18:29
JontheEchidnabut that is probably what you want18:29
oxymoronJontheEchidna: Yeah it seems like it is what I want, thanks man :) Could be useful other times as well. Not sure if it helps though, even if I make some kind of flow over what I am trying todo, I dont know if its possible to program it anyway :P18:31
oxymoronI need a mix of recursive loops, chain reaciton pattern and treeiterator :P18:31
danttiJontheEchidna: moved to kdereview18:34
shadeslayerbtw.. 18:35
shadeslayerwhy cant we give out our @ubuntu.com or @kubuntu.org addresses to people for adding them to gtalk18:35
shadeslayeror is it possible? 18:36
\shshadeslayer: no xmpp service for ubuntu.com/kubuntu.com?18:40
shadeslayer\sh: theres no kubuntu.com.. only kubuntu.org :D18:41
\shshadeslayer: whatever ;18:41
\shshadeslayer: there is kubuntu.com ;)18:42
shadeslayer\sh: its just a alias to kubuntu.org :D18:42
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: i haz something for you18:45
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/cmQUV18:45
danttiJontheEchidna: which list should I email about libdebconf for kubuntu18:46
jjessei've never understood why it was kubuntu.org instead of kubuntu.com18:46
jjesseany explantation?18:46
JontheEchidnadantti: kubuntu-devel is fine18:46
dantti@ kubuntu.org?18:46
shadeslayerdantti: @lists.ubuntu.com18:46
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: do you like it? :D18:47
JontheEchidnain pointy-clicky link form18:47
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: well, we could reuse widgets we already have18:47
shadeslayeri just created that from designer :p18:47
JontheEchidnalike MuonMainWindow, and the ReviewWidget18:47
JontheEchidnaor maybe not reviewwidget, but use the PackageView and DetailsWidget that make up the ReviewWidget, and have the new class automatically show upgradeable packages18:48
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: i have no idea what your talking about :D18:49
shadeslayeri just made that up in qt designer18:49
danttiJontheEchidna: oh I can't post to that list18:50
JontheEchidnadantti: moderated?18:50
danttibut I got to go home now.. cya ..18:50
JontheEchidnaor can't post at all?18:50
JontheEchidnaah, well, we'll have to have someone get the message through queue18:50
danttiYou are not allowed to post to this mailing list18:50
danttiit said it has been rejected 18:51
JontheEchidnathat doesn't seem right. somebody should look in to that18:51
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/8VfuW18:51
JontheEchidnaanyways, cya18:51
shadeslayera bit more18:51
JontheEchidna(was saying cya to dantti. I'm not going)18:51
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: fixed all the buttons and stuff in this one http://imgur.com/nTV6Z18:52
oxymoronMay I ask for help in here regarding programming? Nbody in php channels answer, but its not really a PHP issue. I need help with the programming logic only.18:53
shadeslayeri can try18:53
shadeslayeroxymoron: go !18:54
oxymoronThis is my code currently http://pastebin.com/1pzwYD0K which in a main class. THen it start chain with process method, then call processNext for each chain and then inside each chain call next processNext :P18:54
JontheEchidna...unless of course the display freezes, in which case I must reboot18:54
oxymoronBut now I ALSO need to make process recursively chainable as well :P18:54
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: you reboot so fast?18:55
oxymoronIF any element contain a decorator with decorations it should call process and call that chain before previous one :P18:55
shadeslayeroxymoron: so basically its recursive ?18:55
oxymoronRight now I just get an infinite loop :P18:55
oxymoronshadeslayer: Yes18:55
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: keep in mind that the connection had to time out18:55
JontheEchidnabut I can reboot in about 40 seconds, yeah18:56
shadeslayeryou need to add some conditions18:56
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: sweet18:56
oxymoronshadeslayer: Or well from beginning I only had Iterator and Chain pattern. But now I need to make it recursive as well :P18:56
oxymoronshadeslayer: Conditions?18:56
shadeslayeroxymoron: conditions that will break the loop18:56
shadeslayeroxymoron: simplest example in C++ for this is the factorial function18:57
oxymoronshadeslayer: Yes, "if (key($this->positions) !== null)  {" if null, then return $this->xml18:57
oxymoronshadeslayer: The problem is that each element calls processNext in itself :P18:57
shadeslayerwell you need to assign null at some point of time then18:58
shadeslayerwithin this function18:58
oxymoronCould be infinite loop anywhere in the chain, doesnt need to be in process or processNext methods in themselves :P18:58
oxymoronYes when theres no more elements in ArrayIterator it will return null automaticly ;)18:58
shadeslayeroxymoron: is there somewhere your assigning null to positions ?18:58
shadeslayeridk php.. keep that in mind :)18:59
oxymoronshadeslayer: Theres always associative or integer keys, cant assign null as a key for an element.18:59
shadeslayeroxymoron: uh18:59
shadeslayerdo i  read this right?18:59
shadeslayeri think theres a issue with braces18:59
oxymoronshadeslayer: In an array, same in C++ as well I think. You cannot do $array[null] = element119:00
shadeslayerfunction opens at line 1219:00
shadeslayercloses at 2119:00
oxymoronNo the code itself is correct19:00
shadeslayerand we have else after line 21 0_o19:00
shadeslayeroh wait.. another brace there19:00
shadeslayerno idea mate :)19:01
oxymoronNo need to worry about code, I need help with the logic thinking. I am also open for alternatives how to solve it.19:01
oxymoronWhat I am trying todo, is to make a form generator which have one global decorator which all elements and everything uses and each element should be able to decorate itself infinite times :P19:02
oxymoronIve been stryggling with this for ages. I have a working one, but not working the elegant way with complete recursion and effiency.19:03
oxymoronIn the one with only chain reaction and iteration, I overdo everything and call methods and classes for nothing and one to many times :P I am trying to make less class files to make code faster.19:04
JontheEchidnaIt's so teeny-tiny: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopyl442919:31
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: your making the interface? ^_^19:38
shadeslayer( the upgrade interface )19:38
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: I figure I can make the initial version in an hour or two19:38
shadeslayerplease do share the code... ill try to make sense of it :P19:38
ulyssesHowever it's Muon, but not Muon's fault the problem: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/images/muon/virtuoso_opensource.png19:39
JontheEchidnait can show upgradeable packages now: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopzh442919:49
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: is virtuoso fixed?19:52
JontheEchidnathe file overwrite errors? yeah19:52
shadeslayeruploaded as well?19:52
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: can you sync choqok  then ? ^.^19:53
JontheEchidnaI'm not an archive admin19:53
shadeslayeronly archive admins can sync?19:53
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.ca/1906159 << line 2119:58
shadeslayerplease explain if anyone can19:58
shadeslayerif text changes in lineEdit object it gives a signal texChanged?19:59
shadeslayerah its a inbuilt function :)19:59
shadeslayeruh.. s/function/signal19:59
shadeslayeryou finished it :P20:00
JontheEchidnanah, those buttons don't do anything yet20:00
JontheEchidnaI still need another half hour, but I have to run an errand20:01
shadeslayerahh :D20:01
shadeslayeryou mean you need to just connect them20:01
bulldog98new kdevelop release happend20:24
shadeslayerbulldog98: im working on it20:24
bulldog98shadeslayer: for me it worked20:24
shadeslayerbut JontheEchidna broke virtuoso20:24
shadeslayerbulldog98: what worked?20:25
bulldog98shadeslayer: the workaround worked20:25
shadeslayeruh.. what workaround? :)20:25
bulldog98there is already an bug open and JontheEchidna’s workaround worked for me (aptitude is powerful)20:25
shadeslayerbulldog98: he fixed it in main archive20:26
shadeslayerit should be hitting me anytime now20:26
shadeslayerthen i can continue on20:26
bulldog98shadeslayer: also good20:26
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: yeah, connect the slots and do a few custom things that will work differently in updater mode20:38
bulldog98is someone taking care of kdevelop-php?21:06
JontheEchidnayay, muon --updater works21:09
shadeslayerJontheEchidna:  muon ++21:09
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: but i found a bug in muon21:09
JontheEchidnaexactly half an hour after I returned ;)21:09
shadeslayerwhen commiting changes.... it does not show progress barr21:09
JontheEchidnaI've seen that, but only sometimes21:10
JontheEchidnanot been able to figure out why yet21:10
shadeslayerwell.. i just installed some dev files and could not see it :P21:10
shadeslayerlemme uninstall some old kernels21:10
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: its working now21:12
JontheEchidnayeah, only sometimes21:12
JontheEchidnaI've not yet attempted to debug it21:12
bulldog98JontheEchidna: is there an PPA up for testing?21:13
JontheEchidnabulldog98: ppa:echidnaman/qapt21:14
bulldog98JontheEchidna: ok, other question has it aptitude support or is that planed?21:15
JontheEchidnawhat would aptitude support be?21:15
* shadeslayer lol's21:15
bulldog98JontheEchidna: using aptitude in the background21:15
shadeslayerbulldog98: aptitude has been removed from Ubuntu ( as in live CD )21:16
JontheEchidnaIt uses libapt-pkg (apt) as its backend, and that's not planned to change21:16
JontheEchidnathere is already somebody working on aptitude-qt for GSoC anyways :)21:17
JontheEchidnamuon(8373) CommitWidget::setProgress: -107429932021:17
JontheEchidnaI bet that's why there is no progress in the progress bar21:17
bulldog98JontheEchidna: hum but KpackageKit is not usable for me and I love Konsole so -> aptitude21:19
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://pastebin.ca/190623121:22
shadeslayeri dont suppose we need those right?21:22
shadeslayerbecause they will be stripped21:22
bulldog98shadeslayer: they go into the l10n package21:23
shadeslayerkdevelop almost done then21:23
shadeslayerbulldog98: no.. LP imports them afaik21:23
bulldog98shadeslayer: but they are in kdevelop-l10n-LANG21:24
JontheEchidnaonly in the ppa packages^21:24
shadeslayerJontheEchidna:  ^^21:24
JontheEchidnathey are stripped in Ubuntu, and those packages are empty21:24
shadeslayerseems we need to drop a lang pack21:25
bulldog98JontheEchidna: but I want lokalisation -,-21:25
JontheEchidnabulldog98: they are in language-pack-kde-*21:25
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: uh... i has usr/share/locale/pt in debian/kdevelop-l10n-pt.install21:26
shadeslayernow im all konfused21:26
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: stripping happens after packages are built21:27
JontheEchidnayou can put the missing files in the .install files for the sake of cleanliness21:27
shadeslayerok.. so i do need to put them in install files....21:27
JontheEchidnaand l10n in ppas based of the packages21:27
shadeslayerill do that... 21:27
shadeslayeri want to keep dh_install --list-missing happy ^_^21:27
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: but we would want usr/share/mime/packages/kdevelop.xml tho21:28
JontheEchidnathat's not translations21:28
shadeslayeri guess that goes into the -data package21:29
shadeslayeror the kdevelop.install ?21:29
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: -data21:30
CIA-33[libqapt] jmthomas * 1153225 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/workerinstallprogress.cpp (log message trimmed)21:30
CIA-33Fix a bug where percentage would only be calculated when the percent was21:30
CIA-33fractional. This happened because when I added support for fractional21:30
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: also, ^21:31
JontheEchidnatechnically LibQApt21:31
JontheEchidnatechnically the QApt worker21:31
CIA-33[libqapt] jmthomas * 1153226 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (worker.cpp workerinstallprogress.cpp) debug--21:32
yofel~karma muon21:34
kubotukarma for muon: 421:34
maxwellianshadeslayer: Sorry to be a bit behind, but what's this about aptitude being removed from Ubuntu?21:35
* maxwellian loves aptitude... :(21:35
yofelonly o.O?21:35
shadeslayerhehe 21:35
shadeslayermaxwellian: http://ubuntuedge.wordpress.com/21:35
yofelmaxwellian: removed from live dist21:35
shadeslayerkeep visiting that :D21:35
shadeslayersecond post from the top21:35
maxwellianyofel: Ah, thanks for the clarification.21:36
maxwellianshadeslayer: Awesome, thanks.21:36
* yofel looks at the 17405 unread feed entries in akregator21:36
yofelwhere the hell should I start...21:36
maxwellianshadeslayer: I'm still using Karmic on this machine... :|21:36
maxwellianshadeslayer: Are you a programmer?21:37
shadeslayermaxwellian: i do know C++ 21:37
shadeslayerbut that would be it21:37
shadeslayerlearning Qt atm21:37
maxwellianshadeslayer: Well that's something.  I was just asking because I thought I overheard you earlier saying you didn't do much programming yet.21:38
maxwellianshadeslayer: But you seem very active in maintaining packages somehow.21:38
shadeslayermaxwellian: ah.. i dont program much atm.. im more in packaging :)21:38
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: https://buildd.debian.org/plasma-widget-fastuserswitch21:39
shadeslayerwe will need to sync that too21:39
shadeslayeronce its onto the debian servers21:39
shadeslayerok.. what would the nl and sl translations be for21:40
shadeslayeri cant make out :/21:40
shadeslayerlike which languages21:40
shadeslayerah dutch 21:41
yofelisn't nl netherlands?21:41
maxwellianshadeslayer: Ah, well you seem to be kicking butt.  You're going to be quite a force when you get more into the bug fixing side! :P21:41
shadeslayermaxwellian: already on there too :D21:41
maxwellianshadeslayer: Awesome. :)21:41
shadeslayermaxwellian: well.. theyre more of packaging bugs :P21:41
shadeslayermaxwellian: see https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg21:41
maxwellianshadeslayer: Well keep up the good work, hopefully I'll be able to help as much as you do not too far in the future! :)21:45
* maxwellian o/\o shadeslayer 21:45
shadeslayermaxwellian: oh sure :D21:45
shadeslayerfeel free to ask anything21:46
maxwellianshadeslayer: Thanks I will.  (I was trying to do a high five, by the way :) ).21:48
* shadeslayer high fives back21:48
* maxwellian feels redeemed :)21:48
maxwellianAre you guys using a vm or something for maverick?21:50
* maxwellian 's hardware sucks so bad he doesn't think a vm is an option... :\21:51
JontheEchidnaI've been running maverick since the archives opened. I did have to reinstall once, though21:51
maxwellianJontheEchidna: Running it full time?21:52
JontheEchidnayep. I am crazy21:52
* maxwellian agrees :P21:52
maxwellianJontheEchidna: But since most of the development is being applied to Maverick, does that mean that you get to see lots of bugs disappear from your day-to-day stuff?21:53
maxwellianJontheEchidna: I'm on Karmic, so most bug fixes going on I'm not going to see until I upgrade.21:53
JontheEchidnathe most visible parts are the fixes from KDE21:53
shadeslayermaxwellian: same here21:53
shadeslayerim on maverick as well21:53
shadeslayerand im more krazy21:53
shadeslayersince i have btrfs \o/21:54
maxwellianshadeslayer: Great, another nut. ;)21:54
JontheEchidnawhich are nice and noticable when you get the next KDE prerelease21:54
JontheEchidnabut mostly, you see when things break :P21:54
shadeslayer^^ totally21:54
JontheEchidnaand then you wonder who the idiot was who broke them, and then find out it was you21:54
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: also dont install btrfs ... its fast on the first boot but gets slower21:54
* maxwellian looks up btrfs21:54
maxwellianJontheEchidna: Heh. :)21:55
shadeslayers/install/install with21:55
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: I don't want to reformat without backing up, and I don't have anything to back up on to yet21:55
shadeslayermaxwellian: its a new generation file syste,21:55
JontheEchidnaso I won't be switching for a while21:55
* shadeslayer gives JontheEchidna his 1TB external HD21:55
JontheEchidnaI only switched /home to ext4 when I got my new laptop in december21:55
JontheEchidna(root has been running ext4 since lucid prereleases)21:56
maxwellianJontheEchidna: Can you change filesystems without a reformat?21:56
* maxwellian O_o21:56
JontheEchidnamaxwellian: apparently you can with btrfs, since they are similar enough21:57
shadeslayermaxwellian: ext3->ext4 yest21:57
shadeslayerdont know about btrfs 21:57
JontheEchidnabut sure as hell wouldn't trust a live conversion21:57
JontheEchidna*but I sure21:57
shadeslayeralso.. btrfs.fsck() == fail21:57
shadeslayerneed to report a bug on that21:58
JontheEchidnaanyways, it's quittin' time. bbiab21:58
* maxwellian waves at JontheEchidna 21:58
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: who will upload kdevelop :(21:58
bulldog98shadeslayer: the checking tool only runs offline21:58
bulldog98and it’s knowen21:58
shadeslayerits almost done.. running it through pbuilder21:58
shadeslayerbulldog98: offline?21:59
bulldog98shadeslayer: yes only if you do it without having the filesystem mounted it won’t distroy your data22:00
bulldog98shadeslayer: my new rootfilesystem is btrfs on my Desktop22:04
shadeslayernice.. still.. ext4 seems better for now22:04
shadeslayerwhen Beta 1 is released ill re format22:04
bulldog98shadeslayer: btrfs supports online snapshots22:05
bulldog98and lvm replacement22:05
bulldog98(only raid0)22:05
shadeslayerbut its slow22:05
shadeslayerso whats the point22:06
shadeslayerdont really care about snapshots22:06
Quintasanshadeslayer: use KVM!22:06
shadeslayerkvm? you mean virtualise ubuntu? :o22:07
yofelwell most people use lucid and run maverick in kvm22:07
* yofel uses maverick and runs lucid in kvm :P22:08
* shadeslayer just runs maverick22:08
shadeslayerlove to watch stuff break22:08
* shadeslayer should be asleep right now22:08
yofelshadeslayer: you should idle around in #ubuntu+1 from time to time though if you're running maverick..22:09
shadeslayermeh.. just a formality :P22:09
yofelhey it's usually a nice bunch there (me included :P)22:10
shadeslayerill get slaughtered when they get to know i broke their systems22:10
yofelerm, ususally they won't be able to tell if it was you or maverick *g*22:10
* maxwellian wishes his processor supported KVM... :(22:13
maxwellianActually it's a non-issue, because I have 1G of RAM total, and like 4G of hard drive free.22:14
maxwellianThere's no single bottleneck there.  My computer just fails.22:14
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yofelRiddell: do you know if we can get python-cupsutils from debian in maverick? (bug 602343)22:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 602343 in kdeadmin (Ubuntu) "systemsettings crashed with ImportError in <module>() "No module named cupsutils.ppds"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60234322:52
shadeslayeryofel: does it build fine on ubuntu?22:53
shadeslayerwithout any mods22:54
yofelI'm just looking into that22:55
shadeslayerwhat did i upload :/22:55
yofelRiddell: scratch that, more like system-config-printer-kde needs to be patched to use the ubuntu cupshelpers instead of debian cupsutils23:07
Quintasananother task for apachelogger 23:11
Quintasanhumm it's friday here23:12
Quintasanapachelogger: Happy B-day! :D23:12
yofelhere too23:12
yofelapachelogger: happy birthday ;)23:13
yofel~karma python23:15
kubotukarma for python: -1723:15
shadeslayerRiddell: apachelogger kdevelop 4.0.1 can be found here https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+files/kdevelop_4.0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc23:19
shadeslayerRiddell: apachelogger more info https://edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+packages23:19
Riddellshadeslayer: great23:41
Riddellyofel: yes we need to fix system-config-printer-kde, I've not looked into it yet, if you have a patch that would rock very much23:42
shadeslayerRiddell: i did try to patch it with a given patch in bug report23:42
shadeslayerit fails :/23:42
Riddellshadeslayer: remind me about choqok in the morning23:42
shadeslayerRiddell: define morning :D ( its 4.15 AM here )23:43
yofelRiddell: maverick: I did manage to fix it up a bit so it doesn't crash on start, but then it doesn't do much thanks to pyqt erroring out and I don't know how to fix that23:43
Riddellshadeslayer: morning in Prague :)23:44
Riddellshadeslayer: 9 hours time23:44
Riddellyofel: post what you have to kubuntu-devel so it doesn't get lost then23:45
maxwellianAwwww, why hate on Python? :(23:45
yofelmaxwellian: because we would have noticed that at build time with c++23:45

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