[00:22] * Quintasan needs to pester Launchpad admins [02:30] Hey guys... Interesting problem. [02:31] I get freeze with 64bit 10.04... But not with 32bit [02:43] so, would apt see 4:4.4.92a-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 as newer than 4:4.4.92-0ubuntu3? [02:44] sommeone in forum.kde.org upgraded to Maverick and can't install kdelibs5-dev :/ [02:54] Riddell: wouldve liked it if you had such plans :-/ [02:54] \Hey maco, thanks for covering for me for user days. :/ [02:55] DarkwingDuck: np [02:56] maco: saved me but, it was needed... [04:12] claydoh: Yes. [05:32] Can anyone tell me the difference between kdelibs4-dev and kdelibs5-dev? [05:32] Ultimately I'm trying to figure out which deps are needed to build kde4-window-decorator for compiz [07:38] got it [08:57] claydoh: yes 4:4.4.92a-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 will be "newer" than 4:4.4.92-0ubuntu3 [08:57] where does that come from? [08:57] Qt building on ARM, fingers crossed [09:04] * ulysses crosses fingers [09:17] \o/ [09:18] Riddell: ha, ha, now we are fighting to import kdelibs, someone did that some time ago and now it's borked [09:18] :/ [09:23] Quintasan: import where? [09:24] to Launchpad [09:26] Quintasan: did you need a quota increase? [09:26] Riddell: yes we did [09:26] we still do [09:26] Quintasan: what's the question number? [09:27] Riddell: https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/117762 [09:28] I wonder what "opening for losas" means [09:29] ah, Launchpad and Landscape Operational Systems Administrators [09:29] hmm, I don't think I know any of those people [09:29] guess I can just add my support [09:32] would be great [09:45] can anyone actually get crash reports from drkonqi in maverick yet? [09:45] * Quintasan fires up maverick machine [09:46] start a KDE app, kill -SEGV check backtrace [09:47] apachelogger: kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts uploaded [09:51] Quintasan: does neon need launchpad imports? [09:52] Riddell: yes, recipes need code to be in launchpad [10:08] ScottK: spoke to arne about im-switch using zenity, seems it's only used for features that language-selector does anyway so he's going to remove it from im-switch and we don't have to care about porting to kdialog === persia` is now known as persia [10:45] Riddell: brr... every app krashes here when i close it [10:46] uh oh [10:46] Riddell: and yes i get a backtrace [10:48] well that's something [10:48] i think it was fixed in the last updates or something [10:48] apachelogger knows about it i think [10:49] also.. qoauth is still in universe :( [10:49] and kdevelop 4.0.1 was released [10:49] im working on it [10:52] Get: 1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main libqoauth1 1.0-2ubuntu1 [28.5kB] [10:52] it's in main ^^ [10:53] weird.. lp page still shows universe :S [10:54] omg [10:54] Riddell: Quintasan https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/117762 [10:54] go for project Neon ! [10:55] groovy [10:55] Riddell: can you sync bug 607864 [10:55] Launchpad bug 607864 in qoauth (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qoauth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607864 [10:56] brrr [10:56] wrong bug [10:56] bug 608378 [10:56] Launchpad bug 608378 in choqok (Ubuntu) "Sync choqok 0.9.81-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608378 [10:58] but unfortunately : https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/kdelibs : :/ [10:58] Quintasan: ^^ [11:06] hey [11:06] what package should i install for qt development files? [11:06] lo [11:06] sheytan: libqt4-dev [11:06] shadeslayer, thanks [11:07] hi sheytan, saw your web design, looks pretty [11:07] Riddell Thank you :) [11:07] we are 90% of the way there with a new design which has taken many month [11:08] so we're not looking for new designs now, hassle enough to get the one we have been working on for the last year up [11:08] but when it's launched then we will want to look into how to improve it of course [11:08] :) [11:08] hey guys, can someone take a look at this http://pastebin.com/234pfdN8 [11:08] Looks like the problem happens only in kubuntu [11:09] i complied this on slackware without any problem [11:09] bluedevil == new bluetooth manager right? [11:09] shadeslayer yes [11:10] no idea :P [11:10] first when i had this error, i thought it was libbluedevil related. Then i complied the same sources on slackware fine [11:10] <\sh> sheytan: looks like libqt4-dev is not installed [11:10] \sh it is :/ [11:10] maybe the package misses some stuff [11:11] <\sh> hardcoded -I paths inside the makesystem? [11:11] \sh don't even know what this is :D [11:11] i installed kdebase and kdelibs dev packages [11:11] buildessential [11:11] and qt devel package [11:12] other programs compile fine [11:12] <\sh> sheytan: inside the makesystem of this tool, it could be that one of compiler flags is set hardcoded to a different include path for qt include files [11:12] ^^ might want to check cmakelists.txt [11:13] this is cmakelists http://pastebin.com/GH2NscPh [11:15] \sh shadeslayer might it be that in kubuntu i have qt 4.7? [11:15] i mean, can 4.7 couses the problem [11:15] no idea... [11:15] could be [11:15] im not sure tho [11:15] hm, is there a gui to do release upgrades in kubuntu? (or do we use update-manager for that too) [11:15] yofel: update-manager [11:17] <\sh> sheytan: pointer to the source release? [11:17] \sh don't know what you mean :) [11:17] <\sh> sheytan: from where did you get the sourcecode? [11:17] \sh http://gitorious.org/libbluedevil [11:21] <\sh> I bet something is wrong with the default QT4_INCLUDE_PATH, eventually that the makesystem is not finding the correct location.... [11:21] <\sh> don't have the time yet to check [11:21] \sh ok, thanks anyway :) [11:29] it's only a problem in that test/ directory [11:29] everything else has the right includes as the compile line [11:32] if I comment out test in bluedevil/CMakeLists.txt it finishes fine [11:32] test fail :P [11:35] sorted [11:42] Riddell: is it possible to resume building from pbuilder if there was a error and i dropped to shell to fix it? [11:44] meh.. anyways.. im off to make my training report... :> [11:45] I don't know, I don't use pbuilder for anything other than a final check [12:43] Riddell: would you mind pushing virtuoso-opensource through new queue? soprano is sort've broken until the new packages get through. (an oversight on my part) [12:49] * apachelogger is wondering what to get for lunch :S [12:50] JontheEchidna: let me look [12:52] Riddell: thanks [12:52] bbiab [12:53] Quintasan: poke.. [12:56] dude.. where did you store your recipie ? [12:57] in his cookbook ^^ [12:57] hehe... [12:58] the Qt recipe i mean [13:02] * apachelogger looks [13:02] * apachelogger starves [13:02] heh [13:02] * shadeslayer gives apachelogger some food [13:02] * apachelogger supposedly will just command his bike to take him to some establishment where one can obtain meals [13:03] apachelogger: sudo make_me_a_sandwich [13:04] I think no sudo necesary there [13:04] also no raw ingredients are available so that will fail [13:05] OMG it is like a 30000 degree celsius outside [13:07] :D [13:08] and who invented hair -.- [13:10] well then, I am off looking for someting to eat o/ [13:15] Hi, I'm really struggling with getting a kde build enviornment set up, I am attempting to use kdesrc-build and have some pastebins. [13:15] if anybody cares [13:19] http://pastebin.com/bzwzrReL [13:24] MrDarkUser: looks like an error in libstreamanalyzer [13:25] Riddell: I was told to do something with nm by another person, and found that there is that symbol [13:25] in the libstreamanalyser.so.0.7, I don't know why that matters [13:26] I'm running kdesrc-build and have no idea what to do next [13:27] I followed the kdesrc-build documentation at kdesrc-build.kde.org and the onlything that is funny about my system is it is kubuntu 10.04 32bit with the kde4.5ppa on it [13:27] and I don't see how a conflict could come ppa vs reglar 10.04 [13:28] Riddell: I have plenty of time, I just don't know what else I can do [13:29] MrDarkUser: do you have libstreamanalyzer-dev installed? [13:31] Riddell: thanks === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [13:41] Riddell: yes. I know there are a lot of busy people out there, I've gotten similar errors when I tried opensuse as a base, and ended up going back to kubuntu and successfully building the 4.5 branch, I'm thinking that I might have to pay somebody to guide me thru this [13:59] MrDarkUser: are you interested in any paticular part of KDE? personally I don't build a whole separate development environment, I just use packages for the bits I don't care about and only compile the bit I'm working on [14:00] I'm wanting to play with plasma panel behavior, and the fileview parts of dolphin, so getting into kdelibs a bit [14:03] (I think I wore out the kde-devel guy who had started to help me, and I think there is something broken with the kdesrc-build program) [14:38] I'm trying to add and configure a news widget using plasma scripting (in lucid) [14:40] MrDarkUser: so I'd just checkout kdelibs and compile only that [14:40] why does kded4 create 100s of defunct children? [14:40] txwikinger: doesn't here [14:41] Riddell: I think you need to hibernate [14:41] (and had troubles with using writeConfig(), but looks like it gonna work now :-)) [14:41] txwikinger: I've suspended lots, no defunct processes here [14:42] Well. I think it only does it with hibernate [14:42] Actually I have 2 defuncts on my desktop which neither hibernates nor suspends [14:42] but on my netbook I have 2472 now [14:44] hehe killing the main kded4 process has really unny effects [14:47] Riddell: I can reproduce it every time [15:00] JontheEchidna: install-package breaks for me when run through language-selector, so that would be a nice first target for qapt-batch :) [15:00] god damn it [15:00] stupid python [15:01] * txwikinger thinks it sounds like a problem between the chair and the keyboard [15:01] < maxb> Quintasan: Only by someone first fixing bug 579491 [15:01] txwikinger: and guess what is the problem? [15:01] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/579491) [15:02] PYTHON! [15:02] Riddell: sure. I have kubuntu-notification-helper, kubuntu-firefox-installer and kubuntu-debug-installer already ported in bzr. [15:02] Riddell: I just want to wait for the libqapt beta release (which is also API freeze) to do my symbols file-ing [15:02] then I can file the MIR [15:02] apachelogger: give me an axe or something, I'm going to Python devs [15:03] beta is planned a week from yesterday [15:04] * txwikinger wonders if an axe is the right tool to fix anything like that [15:05] txwikinger: Trust me, for Python, it will work flawlessly [15:05] Eliminating the cause if the best solution for any problem [15:06] Quintasan: I told you .. the cause sits between chair and keyboard [15:06] Quintasan: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52316355/buildlog.txt.gz << hahahaha [15:06] txwikinger: Are you implying that launchpad devs are the cause of python being faulty? [15:06] [muon] jmthomas * 1153095 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonMainWindow.cpp (log message trimmed) [15:06] Use a KMessageBox::detailedError for presenting our queued errors, since the [15:06] text isn't selectable in KMessageBox::errorList. This is not ideal as a very [15:07] commit message cut off ^^ [15:07] * txwikinger thinks he did not imply anything [15:08] * txwikinger checks defunct process after reboot [15:09] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1153096 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Mirror revision 1153095 in qapt-batch [15:09] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1153095&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1153095 [15:09] 0 [15:09] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1153098 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp ...and also don't forget about the newlines [15:09] heh.... ubottu joins CIA-33 in fillinf chan logs [15:09] *fillinf [15:09] * shadeslayer shoots keyboard.... [15:10] shadeslayer: The problem is between the chair and the keyboard [15:10] txwikinger: no.. the problem is the keyboard :P [15:21] [muon] jmthomas * 1153103 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) Muon can technically handle reloading after software-properties-kde finishes, but it has to ask authorization since muon isn't run as root. Therefore, let software-properties-kde take care of things [15:30] mmm, latest intel driver crack. brb rebooting [15:33] new drivers break my pretty boot screen :| [15:35] Quintasan: you are very agressive young man [16:01] * Trouble slaps Virtuoso around a bit with a large trout [16:02] ya, sorry about the overwrites. a fix is building [16:02] Trouble: sudo apt-get -f install [16:02] * Trouble slaps JontheEchidna around a bit with a large trout :-p [16:02] :P [16:02] ta shadeslayer [16:05] * Trouble hugs JontheEchidna and shadeslayer [16:12] uh oh... [16:12] its never good when Trouble hugs you ... ^_^ [16:33] shadeslayer: let me guess your day goes downhill from here on in ;) [16:39] * Trouble visits apachelogger [16:41] Trouble: too hot for trouble really [16:43] apachelogger: But don't you suffer from the problem that anywhere you're locate gets unnaturally hot due to some of the hotness rubbing off? [16:44] well observed, but usually it does not get that hot! [16:50] davmor2: its night here :p [16:53] dantti: what's the status (if any) of your printer tools and packagekit app view? [16:53] Riddell: two kids and a wife on vacations at home :P [16:54] you've got a whole team to do the coding for you :) [16:54] Riddell: well aptcc got the bits for debconf, and distro-upgrade works but the file is not installing on the right place [16:54] dantti: which file? [16:56] Riddell: get-distro-upgrade.py [16:56] hmm actually it's not even being installed [16:57] dantti: that sounds like an easy issue to solve though, should we try and get aptcc in for alpha 3 next week? [16:57] sure we can make a patch for that should not be hard just a path issue [16:58] then the most important I'll try to fix now [16:58] when packagekitd quits packagekit-qt stops receiving signals when packagekitd comes back [16:59] JontheEchidna: hehe... looks like your upload causes this : http://pastebin.ca/1906062 [16:59] in kubuntu 10.4 (kpk 0.5) has the problem too :( [16:59] and I have no idea why this happens :P [16:59] dantti: groovy, can you e-mail me where to grab the code or patch for aptcc when it's sensible to upload? [17:00] Riddell: k, no problem when is the dead line? [17:00] tuesday is freeze so before monday evening [17:01] hmmm that's not nice, can kpk and debconf-qt be pushed after? [17:01] yes [17:01] next week I'll probably have much more time [17:02] Riddell: k, k so for you it's better to fix packagekit aptcc and the qt lib right? [17:02] better than what? [17:03] I mean tuesday is freeze but you said kpk and debconf-qt can be pushed after so I'd like to know what is more important... [17:03] oh only freeze for alpha 3, we can put stuff in after alpha 3 (Thursday) [17:04] FeatureFreeze is august 12th [17:04] so it's nice to get aptcc in for alpha 3 to get testing, but if it's after that's fine too [17:04] * Riddell out [17:07] k [17:08] Riddell: please sync choqok before archive freezes [17:08] Riddell: btw it would be good to have this bug fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/188127 [17:08] Launchpad bug 188127 in apt (Ubuntu) "Update manager shows warning that system was not updated for a long time (not true)" [Medium,Invalid] [17:12] JontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/AueyK << the mark for unmark button isnt really helpful ^_^ [17:19] JontheEchidna: we still need to copy the cmake file to use debconf-kde right? [17:36] dantti: copy the cmake file? [17:36] dantti: it should be in a place where find(Debconf-Kde) should find it [17:36] JontheEchidna: yes the debconf foo stuff [17:37] In muon I'm just doing find_package(DebconfKDE REQUIRED) and it works [17:37] JontheEchidna: but what if debconf is not installed? [17:38] debconf or debconf-kde? [17:39] If debconf-kde is not present, it won't build, as it can't build without it. It doesn't require debconf itself to build, but packages should ensure that it is installed [17:39] packages with debconf questions already depend on debconf, so we shouldn't have to worry about a runtime dependency [17:44] hi, how can I find kubuntu specific patches to KDE? I am specifically looking for a diff of kdebase in LTS 10.04 [17:46] kdepepo: diff of kdebase? [17:46] (if any, compared to upstream) [17:46] kdepepo: all our packaging is @ code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members [17:46] so you can see what interests you there [17:47] shadeslayer: that's trunk [17:47] JontheEchidna: uh what? [17:47] he wants 10.04 [17:47] ohhhhh [17:47] bzr is trunk [17:47] right you are.... [17:48] kdepepo: ^^ [17:48] kdepepo: these were what were shipped with 10.04: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase/ubuntu/files/109/debian/patches/ [17:49] ah nice, thanks JontheEchidna [17:50] JontheEchidna: right but for kpk i need it to build witouth it since fedora doesn't have debconf... :P [17:50] *without [17:50] ifdef DEBCONF_IS_ENABLED? [17:51] or something like that [17:51] you'd probably have to set a macro if debconf-kde is found [17:51] then ifdef that in the code [17:51] can i ifndef the cmakefile? [17:51] yeah [17:51] hmm k [18:11] Riddell, apachelogger: The scripts should probably be updated to depend on libkdecore5 rather than kdelibs5, since kdelibs5 is a transitional package [18:11] oh, the scripts for kde-l10n-* [18:12] there is no scripts [18:12] what scripts [18:12] :P [18:13] you did not read my guide to master the kde-l10n clearly :P [18:13] I thought you used magic scripts [18:13] JontheEchidna: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide [18:13] the scripts only use the powers of the universe to make one packaging branch apply to some 50 packages [18:14] ah, so we just need to update the packaging branch [18:14] then next build it'll automagically propogate to all l10n [18:15] yep [18:16] apachelogger: we can make something like klippy in kword ^_^ [18:18] [kde-l10n-common] Jonathan Thomas * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20100722171803-u0xjyxnyv8tro1i6 * debian/control Depend on libkdecore5 rather than the transitional kdelibs5 [18:20] shadeslayer: you gotta think bigger... how about klippy for KDE [18:20] ktip -> klippy [18:20] this would be so sexy [18:20] klippy++ [18:20] I can almost remove kdelibs5 from my system: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopce1620 [18:24] JontheEchidna: did you get my message earlier ? :) [18:24] message? [18:24] the one about http://imgur.com/AueyK [18:24] JontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/AueyK << the mark for unmark button isnt really helpful ^_^ [18:25] I guess it shouldn't show the mark for: label when the only action is unmark [18:25] yep... [18:26] or maybe,be a little more descriptive [18:26] Unmark for upgrade [18:26] or .. Do not Upgrade [18:26] will have to wait for the next release after 1.0. We're in string freeze now [18:26] no problem [18:26] just remember it :P [18:26] I could hide the label without breaking string freeze in the meanwhile [18:27] please do ... its confusing :D [18:27] Does somebody know if there is some kind of app in KDE/Kubuntu which is able to make flow schemes. I need it to make relationships and logic schemes when programming a really complex thing. [18:27] oh oh.. muon doesnt work when db is locked and apt dies [18:27] !aptfix [18:27] If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » [18:27] and you have to manually run ^^ [18:28] oxymoron: umbrello? [18:28] !info umbrello [18:28] umbrello (source: kdesdk): UML modelling tool and code generator. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 2150 kB, installed size 9952 kB [18:29] hmm, the short description isn't very helpful [18:29] but that is probably what you want [18:31] JontheEchidna: Yeah it seems like it is what I want, thanks man :) Could be useful other times as well. Not sure if it helps though, even if I make some kind of flow over what I am trying todo, I dont know if its possible to program it anyway :P [18:31] :P [18:31] I need a mix of recursive loops, chain reaciton pattern and treeiterator :P [18:34] JontheEchidna: moved to kdereview [18:34] yay [18:35] btw.. [18:35] why cant we give out our @ubuntu.com or @kubuntu.org addresses to people for adding them to gtalk [18:36] or is it possible? [18:40] <\sh> shadeslayer: no xmpp service for ubuntu.com/kubuntu.com? [18:40] :( [18:41] \sh: theres no kubuntu.com.. only kubuntu.org :D [18:41] <\sh> shadeslayer: whatever ; [18:42] <\sh> shadeslayer: there is kubuntu.com ;) [18:42] \sh: its just a alias to kubuntu.org :D [18:45] JontheEchidna: i haz something for you [18:45] JontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/cmQUV [18:46] JontheEchidna: which list should I email about libdebconf for kubuntu [18:46] i've never understood why it was kubuntu.org instead of kubuntu.com [18:46] any explantation? [18:46] dantti: kubuntu-devel is fine [18:46] @ kubuntu.org? [18:46] dantti: @lists.ubuntu.com [18:46] kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [18:47] thanks [18:47] JontheEchidna: do you like it? :D [18:47] in pointy-clicky link form [18:47] shadeslayer: well, we could reuse widgets we already have [18:47] i just created that from designer :p [18:47] like MuonMainWindow, and the ReviewWidget [18:48] or maybe not reviewwidget, but use the PackageView and DetailsWidget that make up the ReviewWidget, and have the new class automatically show upgradeable packages [18:49] JontheEchidna: i have no idea what your talking about :D [18:49] i just made that up in qt designer [18:50] JontheEchidna: oh I can't post to that list [18:50] dantti: moderated? [18:50] but I got to go home now.. cya .. [18:50] or can't post at all? [18:50] yup [18:50] ah, well, we'll have to have someone get the message through queue [18:50] You are not allowed to post to this mailing list [18:50] :s [18:51] it said it has been rejected [18:51] that doesn't seem right. somebody should look in to that [18:51] JontheEchidna: http://imgur.com/8VfuW [18:51] anyways, cya [18:51] a bit more [18:51] aww.... [18:51] (was saying cya to dantti. I'm not going) [18:52] :P [18:52] JontheEchidna: fixed all the buttons and stuff in this one http://imgur.com/nTV6Z [18:53] May I ask for help in here regarding programming? Nbody in php channels answer, but its not really a PHP issue. I need help with the programming logic only. [18:53] i can try [18:54] heh [18:54] oxymoron: go ! [18:54] This is my code currently http://pastebin.com/1pzwYD0K which in a main class. THen it start chain with process method, then call processNext for each chain and then inside each chain call next processNext :P [18:54] ...unless of course the display freezes, in which case I must reboot [18:54] But now I ALSO need to make process recursively chainable as well :P [18:55] JontheEchidna: you reboot so fast? [18:55] IF any element contain a decorator with decorations it should call process and call that chain before previous one :P [18:55] oxymoron: so basically its recursive ? [18:55] Right now I just get an infinite loop :P [18:55] shadeslayer: Yes [18:55] shadeslayer: keep in mind that the connection had to time out [18:56] but I can reboot in about 40 seconds, yeah [18:56] you need to add some conditions [18:56] JontheEchidna: sweet [18:56] shadeslayer: Or well from beginning I only had Iterator and Chain pattern. But now I need to make it recursive as well :P [18:56] shadeslayer: Conditions? [18:56] oxymoron: conditions that will break the loop [18:57] oxymoron: simplest example in C++ for this is the factorial function [18:57] shadeslayer: Yes, "if (key($this->positions) !== null) {" if null, then return $this->xml [18:57] shadeslayer: The problem is that each element calls processNext in itself :P [18:58] well you need to assign null at some point of time then [18:58] within this function [18:58] Could be infinite loop anywhere in the chain, doesnt need to be in process or processNext methods in themselves :P [18:58] Yes when theres no more elements in ArrayIterator it will return null automaticly ;) [18:58] oxymoron: is there somewhere your assigning null to positions ? [18:59] idk php.. keep that in mind :) [18:59] shadeslayer: Theres always associative or integer keys, cant assign null as a key for an element. [18:59] oxymoron: uh [18:59] do i read this right? [18:59] i think theres a issue with braces [19:00] shadeslayer: In an array, same in C++ as well I think. You cannot do $array[null] = element1 [19:00] function opens at line 12 [19:00] closes at 21 [19:00] No the code itself is correct [19:00] and we have else after line 21 0_o [19:00] oh wait.. another brace there [19:01] no idea mate :) [19:01] No need to worry about code, I need help with the logic thinking. I am also open for alternatives how to solve it. [19:02] What I am trying todo, is to make a form generator which have one global decorator which all elements and everything uses and each element should be able to decorate itself infinite times :P [19:03] Ive been stryggling with this for ages. I have a working one, but not working the elegant way with complete recursion and effiency. [19:04] In the one with only chain reaction and iteration, I overdo everything and call methods and classes for nothing and one to many times :P I am trying to make less class files to make code faster. [19:31] It's so teeny-tiny: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopyl4429 [19:38] JontheEchidna: your making the interface? ^_^ [19:38] ( the upgrade interface ) [19:38] shadeslayer: I figure I can make the initial version in an hour or two [19:38] hehe [19:38] please do share the code... ill try to make sense of it :P [19:39] However it's Muon, but not Muon's fault the problem: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/images/muon/virtuoso_opensource.png [19:49] it can show upgradeable packages now: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopzh4429 [19:50] nice [19:52]