[00:11] <jcole> oops
[00:36] <DrHalan> mh
[00:36] <DrHalan> i still have this strange mousebgu
[05:52] <alex_mayorga> bjsnider: ping
[10:11] <yofel> morning
[10:50] <MIH1406> Hi, Is Kubuntu 10.10 Alpha release? And how to upgrade to an alpha?
[10:56] <yofel> MIH1406: sure https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/Alpha2/Kubuntu - you can upgrade with 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d', if it doesn't show maverick you might need to enabel non-LTS upgrades
[11:14] <MIH1406> it is a command line
[11:14] <MIH1406> is there a GUI like Ubuntu?
[11:16] <yofel> MIH1406: we don't have a gui of our own, but you can certainly use update-manager in Kubuntu too
[11:17] <MIH1406> I have many repos add to the default one, can I list packages by repo?
[11:17] <yofel> update-manager-kde in this case
[11:21] <yofel> MIH1406: I doubt kpackagekit can do that, as far as I know ubuntus software-center can do that and muon will be able to do that once it's released
[11:22] <yofel> ah, synaptic can do that too
[11:22] <MIH1406> Yes but they are in Ubuntu I do not like to mix GTK with Kubuntu
[11:22] <MIH1406> :)
[11:23] <yofel> muon will be able to do that, it's a synaptic like package manager for kubuntu currently in development
[11:24] <yofel> as kpackagekit is... rather lacking in features
[11:26] <yofel> MIH1406: you can try it out here https://edge.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+archive/qapt - works mostly fine, but it *is* still unstable
[11:28] <MIH1406> Oh! That is my wish for Kubuntu
[11:28] <MIH1406> Thank you very very very very much for this good news
[11:30] <yofel> MIH1406: here's a screenshot ;) http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/muon.png
[11:31] <MIH1406> awesome
[13:19] <AzaToth_work> does lucid-backports fall into the category of this channel, or should #ubuntu be the place?
[13:20] <om26er> AzaToth_work, #ubuntu
[13:20] <AzaToth_work> om26er: I see
[13:21] <AzaToth_work> (sadly there is too much OT there atm)
[13:21] <AzaToth_work> om26er: though, anyway, http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ seems to be empty also :(
[13:22] <AzaToth_work> broken, or does maveric not exists at all yet?
[13:22] <AzaToth_work> k
[13:22] <om26er> AzaToth_work, maverick exists its alpha2 atm
[13:22] <om26er> !maverick
[13:23] <AzaToth_work> om26er: figured that
[13:24] <AzaToth_work> om26er: though I should snatch the svn-buildpackage directly from maverick as it does handle deb3 package formats
[13:24] <yofel> AzaToth_work: packages.ubuntu.com is broken at the moment ...
[13:24] <AzaToth_work> yofel: ok
[13:45] <LucidFox> Okay, I have two questions
[13:45] <LucidFox> 1. Why is my sound always muted when I restart maverick?
[13:45] <LucidFox> 2. Is there any way to make tomboy start minimized to the indicator?
[13:49] <gnomefreak> LucidFox: one minute please
[13:50] <gnomefreak> 1. please see bug 455420
[13:50] <gnomefreak> as for 2. im not sure
[13:50] <gnomefreak> please confirm that bug
[13:58] <om26er> with sound muted any saved sound preferences are also removed
[14:24] <charlie-tca> Xchat for 64bit is missing today?
[14:26] <patdk-wk> well, xchat-common
[14:26] <patdk-wk> xchat-gnome works fine :)
[14:35] <charlie-tca> yeah... xchat-common takes out the real xchat
[14:54] <secher> Morning all.  Quick question.  When the screensaver kicks on, I am logged off.  Not locked, logged off, as in all programs closed and primary logon screen shown when I move the mouse or hit a key to stop the screensaver.  Nothing readily shown in Google.  Anyone have any ideas?
[14:55] <secher> 10.10, btw
[14:55] <secher> current updates.. Just FYI am loving 10.10 despite the few bugs (remmina not starting, etc.)
[14:57] <patdk-wk> strange, remmina works fine here
[14:58] <secher> patdk-wk: whoops, I just updated this AM, and lo and behold, works fine again.. :)
[14:58] <secher> Didn't try yet today..
[14:58] <MeeGoMee> Hi, I am in a serious trouple
[14:58] <patdk-wk> hmm, last update here was yeasterday
[14:59] <MeeGoMee> I have upgraded to Kubuntu Alpha Using update-manager -d
[14:59] <MeeGoMee> And now I cannot login
[15:00] <MeeGoMee> Can you help me?
[15:01] <secher> MeeGoMee: YOu need to define  "Now I cannot login"  what do you mean?  You enter your password and the computer responds that your password in incorrect?  You get a black screen and cannot enter your password/userid?
[15:02] <MeeGoMee> I clicked from the boot menu Ubuntu (With the latest kernel) and If I see the Kubuntu logo It freezes for long time
[15:03] <secher> Ok, so kubuntu is not taking you to a login screen even.. just the splash screen, where it sits and does not continue to a login screen?
[15:04] <MeeGoMee> After that I worked with recovery mode and selected "Use default (generic) configuration" for reconfiguring my display hardware and now it give me a black screen
[15:04] <secher> completely black, or are there words on it?
[15:06] <MeeGoMee> Now, after the splash I see vertical clorded lines
[15:06] <MeeGoMee> If i clicked Esc it bring me a completely black screen
[15:07] <geser> LucidFox: re 2: why not use the tomboy applet?
[15:08] <LucidFox> Because it's a) disabled in Maverick and b) the indicator integrates better
[15:08] <geser> hmm, my tomboy applet is still there and works and I'm using maverick
[15:09] <Daekdroom> I disabled the old tray area :D
[15:09] <Daekdroom> Pretty much everything I use has some sort of integration to the messaging menu
[15:09] <secher> Ahah, now we're getting somewhere.  Sounds like your drivers are not liking your video card.  Did you by any chance write down which partitions you used for which mount points, i.e. /dev/sdb1 for /home?  Csue I think you may be in for a rebuild, mainly because you clearly don't have the knowhow to boot to single user mode and recover the system and I doubt anyone is going to take the time to walk you through it.  imho.  I could be wrong however..
[15:09] <secher> s/Csue/Cause/g
[15:10] <geser> the tomboy applet didn't use the notification area, it's a applet of it's own
[15:11] <MeeGoMee> no everything is in one place
[15:15] <MeeGoMee> i.e. /dev/sdb1 for /
[15:17] <MeeGoMee> any help?
[15:20] <MeeGoMee> secher: finally i got it, thank you for your help "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" solved it
[15:22] <secher> MeeGoMee: If you couldn't log in, how did you do that?
[15:22] <secher> Oh, nvm, gone.
[15:23] <secher> Hrm, dammit, screensaver booted me out again.  Feh.  Kk, headed out.  Peace.
[15:57] <MIH1406> Hi, I want to connect to a wireless lan using command line through recovery mode
[15:58] <MIH1406> hello
[15:59] <charlie-tca> You propably need to use iwconfig then
[15:59] <charlie-tca> man iwconfig for details
[16:00] <MIH1406> charlie-tca: thanks you
[16:01] <MIH1406> another thing is that I cannot activate my graphics driver ati
[16:01] <MIH1406> I got this msg: SystemError: installArchives() failed
[16:01] <charlie-tca> from command line?
[16:02] <charlie-tca> hmmm
[16:02] <MIH1406> no from KDE "Hardware Drivers"
[16:02] <charlie-tca> oh. I don't really know anything about kde
[16:03] <JontheEchidna> it shouldn't be kde-specific, the jockey internals are the same for both, and this looks like the package failed to install for some reason
[16:04] <popey> /4/41
[16:05] <popey> bah!
[16:05] <MIH1406> yes I do not mean that is KDE related but I mean the GUI in KDE
[16:05] <MIH1406> can I activate using command line?
[16:06] <MIH1406> Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:06] <MIH1406>  fglrx
[16:06] <MIH1406>  fglrx-amdcccle
[16:06] <charlie-tca> If the repositories are enabled, it should work from the gui
[16:07] <MIH1406> can I siwtch to a command line and logout the Kubuntu so I can work only using terminal
[16:07] <charlie-tca> As far as I know, you can no longer install from command line, but I am probably wrong about that
[16:07] <charlie-tca> You should be able to switch using Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get to a command line only terminal
[16:08] <charlie-tca> You have to login with username and password to use it
[16:08] <MIH1406> and X shutdown?
[16:08] <charlie-tca> Not necessary to shutdwon X if you don't want to
[16:09] <MIH1406> I want to remove fglrx and isntall it again!
[16:09] <charlie-tca> Should be a logout then
[16:15] <MIH1406> back
[16:15] <TommyThaGun> is there a way to make my second monitor have it's own panel?
[16:16] <MIH1406> I removed fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle and installed them again but I have a problem
[16:16] <MIH1406> the problen is "apt-get" is tring to config "fglrx-amdcccle" but it complain that "fglrx" is not yet configured
[16:16] <MIH1406> how can I config "fglrx"?
[16:17] <charlie-tca> MIH1406: I don't know that one
[16:18] <charlie-tca> TommyThaGun: Maybe you have to create a new panel on the monitor?
[16:19] <TommyThaGun> charlie-tca, that just crates it on the main monitor
[16:19] <TommyThaGun> and I can't find a way to move it to the other monitor. I want to be able to have a bottom panel with the apps that are running on one monitor on that monitor's panel
[16:24] <MIH1406> charlie-tca: thank you
[18:31] <DrHalan> is anyone suing network-indicator?
[18:34] <Melodist> seeing*?
[18:34] <JontheEchidna> The GPL comes without any warranty, so I could hardly see how you could sue it. [/jackarse] :P
[18:35] <JontheEchidna> but no, I'm not using it since I use KDE
[18:35] <Melodist> oooh, is maverick KDE much better?
[18:36] <JontheEchidna> I always find the next KDE better than the last, but I'm a diehard KDE fan
[18:37]  * patdk-wk never liked kde
[18:37] <patdk-wk> I tried it, but I dunno, it just rubs me wrong
[18:37] <JontheEchidna> but yeah, I couldn't resist making fun of the typo. sorry :(
[18:37] <DrHalan> GNOME + Docky is the best :)
[18:37] <DrHalan> +Compiz (Expose is really awesome to swithc windows)
[18:38] <Melodist> I switched out docky for cairo
[18:38] <Melodist> but yeah thats basically my set up, although i really want to see what gnome3 does
[18:39] <DrHalan> well i dont really like gnoem shell
[18:39] <DrHalan> but gtk 3 will be awesom
[18:39] <DrHalan> rgba windows :)=
[18:39] <DrHalan> + zeitgeist is nice to
[18:39] <Melodist> you know what i havent figured out yet
[18:39] <DrHalan> finally a search app that gives me answers to questions like "what site was i browsing when i was at my friends house"
[18:40] <Melodist> why are there no rainbow themes for either system. it seems like a popular enough idea U:
[18:40] <Melodist> :weird:
[18:40] <DrHalan> both my chairs are broken >.<
[18:40] <patdk-wk> yuk
[18:40] <Melodist> you should get some comfy chairs
[18:41] <Melodist> and a fez
[18:41] <Melodist> and a bowtie
[18:41] <DrHalan> a fez?
[18:41] <JontheEchidna> Fezes are cool
[18:41] <JontheEchidna> as are bowties
[18:41] <DrHalan> i have no idea what either of those things is ^^
[18:42] <Melodist> :>
[18:42] <Melodist> Watch doctor who like jon :>
[18:47] <Halan> Just have that prefix becauss somebody took my actual nickname
[18:48] <Halan> maverick is just awesome. except for taht wired mousebug i have
[18:50] <Melodist> o:
[18:50] <Melodist> so it hasnt like
[18:50] <Melodist> crashed all over the place for you?
[18:51] <Melodist> I've wanted to test it out, but i dont wanna trash my system :S
[18:55] <Halan> yeah its pretty stable here
[18:56] <Halan> but atm there are a lot of gnome 2.30 packages still hanging around
[18:56] <Halan> lets see what happens when they get upgraded
[19:47] <laberkopf> guten abend
[19:47] <laberkopf> english here?
[19:47] <laberkopf> can someone help me with this?_: http://nopaste.info/25bb9b7d37.html
[19:51] <pvandewyngaerde> try adding nopat as a kernel option at boot
[19:51] <Halan> keine ahnung ob ich getötet werde wenn ich mit dir deutsch rede ^^
[19:52] <Halan> my did you run nvidia-xconfig?
[19:53] <yofel> laberkopf: Halan: we *do* have #ubuntu-de+1 you know...
[19:54] <Halan> yofel:  is that one even more quiet than this one? :P
[19:54] <laberkopf> yeah but its nearly empty..
[19:54] <yofel> Halan: a lot more quiet :P
[19:54] <Halan> :D
[19:54] <Halan> lets just talk english ^^
[19:54] <laberkopf> well i tried nvidia-xconfig a hundred times but no effect
[19:55] <Halan> and how is nouveau working?
[19:55] <laberkopf> hmm.. well no difference
[19:56] <BUGabundo> evening
[19:56] <laberkopf> each time i sstart the system the login manager says that ists impossible to find out the settings
[19:56] <yofel> laberkopf: you mean failsave-x with nouveau?
[19:57] <laberkopf> öhm?
[19:57] <laberkopf> well
[19:57] <yofel> laberkopf: some gtk box telliing you that x failed to load and what it should do with a few things to choose from
[19:57] <laberkopf> thanks for help but now i will install the old version
[19:57] <laberkopf> yes this box.
[19:58] <laberkopf> okay.
[19:58] <laberkopf> maybe i should wait with new installing
[19:58] <yofel> with nouveau that would be the fault of the gfxpayload setting which default was changed
[19:58] <Halan> try removign the nividia-* packages so nouveau gets forced
[19:58] <laberkopf> apt-get remove nvidia-* right?
[19:59] <Halan> normally sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current should be enough
[19:59] <laberkopf> and then restart?
[20:00] <laberkopf> i cant restart onlxy x becaus of this F***in login manager
[20:00] <laberkopf> i want kdm.. but it ignores it
[20:00] <laberkopf> my english sucks..
[20:00] <laberkopf> reboot
[20:05] <laberkopf> so
[20:05] <laberkopf> now.. the same failsafe-x box appeard
[20:06] <pvandewyngaerde> laberkopf:  try adding nopat as a kernel option at boot
[20:06] <laberkopf> but now only 800x600px of the monitor are used
[20:06] <laberkopf> the rest is black
[20:06] <laberkopf> damn.
[20:06] <laberkopf> brb reboot
[20:09] <laberkopf> well
[20:10] <laberkopf> no difference
[20:11] <laberkopf> same problem even with nopat
[20:12] <yofel> laberkopf: you're on nouveau now?
[20:12] <laberkopf> dunno
[20:12] <laberkopf> how to find out?
[20:13] <yofel> laberkopf: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:13] <laberkopf> kay
[20:13] <laberkopf> well
[20:13] <laberkopf> there ist 0 1 2 3 4 5 99 and failsafe xorg log
[20:13] <yofel> anyway, can you try to add 'GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text' to /etc/default/grub - run 'sudo update-grub' and see if that helps?
[20:14] <laberkopf> well in wich file?
[20:14] <laberkopf> and in which line?
[20:15] <laberkopf> sry
[20:15] <yofel> laberkopf: I said the file: /etc/default/grub, line doesn't matter
[20:15] <yofel> I mean, add it in a new line
[20:16] <laberkopf> okay
[20:16] <laberkopf> done
[20:16] <laberkopf> now reboot?
[20:17] <yofel> yes
[20:17] <laberkopf> okay
[20:17] <yofel> you did run update-grub?
[20:17] <yofel> I hope he did..
[20:33] <Halan> xD
[20:36]  * yofel hopes that he didn't give the system the final push...
[20:41]  * BUGabundo pushes yofel harder
[21:10] <TommyThaGun> Is there a way to make my second monitor have it's own panel? I want to be able to have a bottom panel with the apps that are running on one monitor on that monitor's panel.
[22:00] <duffydack> Is there a way to have the notification for volume control look how it looks when using the panel volume control, like same as the theme.