[00:11] oops [00:36] mh [00:36] i still have this strange mousebgu === patdk-h3 is now known as PatrickDK === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [05:52] bjsnider: ping [10:11] morning [10:50] Hi, Is Kubuntu 10.10 Alpha release? And how to upgrade to an alpha? [10:56] MIH1406: sure https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/Alpha2/Kubuntu - you can upgrade with 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d', if it doesn't show maverick you might need to enabel non-LTS upgrades [11:14] it is a command line [11:14] is there a GUI like Ubuntu? [11:16] MIH1406: we don't have a gui of our own, but you can certainly use update-manager in Kubuntu too [11:17] I have many repos add to the default one, can I list packages by repo? [11:17] update-manager-kde in this case [11:21] MIH1406: I doubt kpackagekit can do that, as far as I know ubuntus software-center can do that and muon will be able to do that once it's released [11:22] ah, synaptic can do that too [11:22] Yes but they are in Ubuntu I do not like to mix GTK with Kubuntu [11:22] :) [11:23] muon will be able to do that, it's a synaptic like package manager for kubuntu currently in development [11:24] as kpackagekit is... rather lacking in features [11:26] MIH1406: you can try it out here https://edge.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+archive/qapt - works mostly fine, but it *is* still unstable [11:28] Oh! That is my wish for Kubuntu [11:28] Thank you very very very very much for this good news [11:30] MIH1406: here's a screenshot ;) http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/muon.png [11:31] awesome === om26er_ is now known as om26er [13:19] does lucid-backports fall into the category of this channel, or should #ubuntu be the place? [13:20] AzaToth_work, #ubuntu [13:20] om26er: I see [13:21] (sadly there is too much OT there atm) [13:21] om26er: though, anyway, http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ seems to be empty also :( [13:22] broken, or does maveric not exists at all yet? [13:22] k [13:22] AzaToth_work, maverick exists its alpha2 atm [13:22] !maverick [13:22] Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 2010 - Maverick is Not released and Not Stable, discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [13:23] om26er: figured that [13:24] om26er: though I should snatch the svn-buildpackage directly from maverick as it does handle deb3 package formats [13:24] AzaToth_work: packages.ubuntu.com is broken at the moment ... [13:24] yofel: ok === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna === luftikuss is now known as luftikus2 [13:45] Okay, I have two questions [13:45] 1. Why is my sound always muted when I restart maverick? [13:45] 2. Is there any way to make tomboy start minimized to the indicator? [13:49] LucidFox: one minute please [13:50] 1. please see bug 455420 [13:50] Launchpad bug 455420 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "Sound is muted at log-in" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/455420 [13:50] as for 2. im not sure [13:50] please confirm that bug [13:58] with sound muted any saved sound preferences are also removed [14:24] Xchat for 64bit is missing today? [14:26] well, xchat-common [14:26] xchat-gnome works fine :) [14:35] yeah... xchat-common takes out the real xchat [14:54] Morning all. Quick question. When the screensaver kicks on, I am logged off. Not locked, logged off, as in all programs closed and primary logon screen shown when I move the mouse or hit a key to stop the screensaver. Nothing readily shown in Google. Anyone have any ideas? [14:55] 10.10, btw [14:55] current updates.. Just FYI am loving 10.10 despite the few bugs (remmina not starting, etc.) [14:57] strange, remmina works fine here [14:58] patdk-wk: whoops, I just updated this AM, and lo and behold, works fine again.. :) [14:58] Didn't try yet today.. [14:58] Hi, I am in a serious trouple [14:58] hmm, last update here was yeasterday [14:59] I have upgraded to Kubuntu Alpha Using update-manager -d [14:59] And now I cannot login [15:00] Can you help me? [15:01] MeeGoMee: YOu need to define "Now I cannot login" what do you mean? You enter your password and the computer responds that your password in incorrect? You get a black screen and cannot enter your password/userid? [15:02] I clicked from the boot menu Ubuntu (With the latest kernel) and If I see the Kubuntu logo It freezes for long time [15:03] Ok, so kubuntu is not taking you to a login screen even.. just the splash screen, where it sits and does not continue to a login screen? [15:04] After that I worked with recovery mode and selected "Use default (generic) configuration" for reconfiguring my display hardware and now it give me a black screen [15:04] completely black, or are there words on it? [15:06] Now, after the splash I see vertical clorded lines [15:06] If i clicked Esc it bring me a completely black screen [15:07] LucidFox: re 2: why not use the tomboy applet? [15:08] Because it's a) disabled in Maverick and b) the indicator integrates better [15:08] hmm, my tomboy applet is still there and works and I'm using maverick [15:09] I disabled the old tray area :D [15:09] Pretty much everything I use has some sort of integration to the messaging menu [15:09] Ahah, now we're getting somewhere. Sounds like your drivers are not liking your video card. Did you by any chance write down which partitions you used for which mount points, i.e. /dev/sdb1 for /home? Csue I think you may be in for a rebuild, mainly because you clearly don't have the knowhow to boot to single user mode and recover the system and I doubt anyone is going to take the time to walk you through it. imho. I could be wrong however.. [15:09] s/Csue/Cause/g [15:10] the tomboy applet didn't use the notification area, it's a applet of it's own [15:11] no everything is in one place [15:15] i.e. /dev/sdb1 for / [15:17] any help? [15:20] secher: finally i got it, thank you for your help "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" solved it [15:22] MeeGoMee: If you couldn't log in, how did you do that? [15:22] Oh, nvm, gone. [15:23] Hrm, dammit, screensaver booted me out again. Feh. Kk, headed out. Peace. === patdk-h3 is now known as PatrickDK [15:57] Hi, I want to connect to a wireless lan using command line through recovery mode [15:58] hello [15:59] You propably need to use iwconfig then [15:59] man iwconfig for details [16:00] charlie-tca: thanks you [16:01] another thing is that I cannot activate my graphics driver ati [16:01] I got this msg: SystemError: installArchives() failed [16:01] from command line? [16:02] hmmm [16:02] no from KDE "Hardware Drivers" [16:02] oh. I don't really know anything about kde [16:03] it shouldn't be kde-specific, the jockey internals are the same for both, and this looks like the package failed to install for some reason [16:04] /4/41 [16:05] bah! [16:05] yes I do not mean that is KDE related but I mean the GUI in KDE [16:05] can I activate using command line? [16:06] Errors were encountered while processing: [16:06] fglrx [16:06] fglrx-amdcccle [16:06] If the repositories are enabled, it should work from the gui [16:07] can I siwtch to a command line and logout the Kubuntu so I can work only using terminal [16:07] As far as I know, you can no longer install from command line, but I am probably wrong about that [16:07] You should be able to switch using Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get to a command line only terminal [16:08] You have to login with username and password to use it [16:08] and X shutdown? [16:08] Not necessary to shutdwon X if you don't want to [16:09] I want to remove fglrx and isntall it again! [16:09] Should be a logout then [16:15] back [16:15] is there a way to make my second monitor have it's own panel? [16:16] I removed fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle and installed them again but I have a problem [16:16] the problen is "apt-get" is tring to config "fglrx-amdcccle" but it complain that "fglrx" is not yet configured [16:16] how can I config "fglrx"? [16:17] MIH1406: I don't know that one [16:18] TommyThaGun: Maybe you have to create a new panel on the monitor? [16:19] charlie-tca, that just crates it on the main monitor [16:19] and I can't find a way to move it to the other monitor. I want to be able to have a bottom panel with the apps that are running on one monitor on that monitor's panel [16:24] charlie-tca: thank you === MichealH_ is now known as MichealH [18:31] is anyone suing network-indicator? [18:34] seeing*? [18:34] The GPL comes without any warranty, so I could hardly see how you could sue it. [/jackarse] :P [18:35] but no, I'm not using it since I use KDE [18:35] oooh, is maverick KDE much better? [18:36] I always find the next KDE better than the last, but I'm a diehard KDE fan [18:37] * patdk-wk never liked kde [18:37] I tried it, but I dunno, it just rubs me wrong [18:37] but yeah, I couldn't resist making fun of the typo. sorry :( [18:37] GNOME + Docky is the best :) [18:37] +Compiz (Expose is really awesome to swithc windows) [18:38] I switched out docky for cairo [18:38] but yeah thats basically my set up, although i really want to see what gnome3 does [18:39] well i dont really like gnoem shell [18:39] but gtk 3 will be awesom [18:39] rgba windows :)= [18:39] + zeitgeist is nice to [18:39] you know what i havent figured out yet [18:39] finally a search app that gives me answers to questions like "what site was i browsing when i was at my friends house" [18:40] why are there no rainbow themes for either system. it seems like a popular enough idea U: [18:40] :weird: [18:40] both my chairs are broken >.< [18:40] yuk [18:40] you should get some comfy chairs [18:41] and a fez [18:41] and a bowtie [18:41] a fez? [18:41] Fezes are cool [18:41] as are bowties [18:41] i have no idea what either of those things is ^^ [18:42] :> === DrHalan is now known as Halan [18:42] Watch doctor who like jon :> [18:47] Just have that prefix becauss somebody took my actual nickname [18:48] maverick is just awesome. except for taht wired mousebug i have [18:50] o: [18:50] so it hasnt like [18:50] crashed all over the place for you? [18:51] I've wanted to test it out, but i dont wanna trash my system :S [18:55] yeah its pretty stable here [18:56] but atm there are a lot of gnome 2.30 packages still hanging around [18:56] lets see what happens when they get upgraded [19:47] guten abend [19:47] english here? [19:47] can someone help me with this?_: http://nopaste.info/25bb9b7d37.html [19:51] try adding nopat as a kernel option at boot [19:51] keine ahnung ob ich getötet werde wenn ich mit dir deutsch rede ^^ [19:52] my did you run nvidia-xconfig? [19:53] laberkopf: Halan: we *do* have #ubuntu-de+1 you know... [19:54] yofel: is that one even more quiet than this one? :P [19:54] yeah but its nearly empty.. [19:54] Halan: a lot more quiet :P [19:54] :D [19:54] lets just talk english ^^ [19:54] well i tried nvidia-xconfig a hundred times but no effect === C-S-B_ is now known as C-S-B [19:55] and how is nouveau working? [19:55] hmm.. well no difference [19:56] evening [19:56] each time i sstart the system the login manager says that ists impossible to find out the settings [19:56] laberkopf: you mean failsave-x with nouveau? [19:57] öhm? [19:57] well [19:57] laberkopf: some gtk box telliing you that x failed to load and what it should do with a few things to choose from [19:57] thanks for help but now i will install the old version [19:57] yes this box. [19:58] okay. [19:58] maybe i should wait with new installing [19:58] with nouveau that would be the fault of the gfxpayload setting which default was changed [19:58] try removign the nividia-* packages so nouveau gets forced [19:58] apt-get remove nvidia-* right? [19:59] normally sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current should be enough [19:59] and then restart? [20:00] i cant restart onlxy x becaus of this F***in login manager [20:00] i want kdm.. but it ignores it [20:00] my english sucks.. [20:00] reboot [20:05] so [20:05] now.. the same failsafe-x box appeard [20:06] laberkopf: try adding nopat as a kernel option at boot [20:06] but now only 800x600px of the monitor are used [20:06] the rest is black [20:06] damn. [20:06] brb reboot [20:09] well [20:10] no difference [20:11] same problem even with nopat [20:12] laberkopf: you're on nouveau now? [20:12] dunno [20:12] how to find out? [20:13] laberkopf: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log [20:13] kay [20:13] well [20:13] there ist 0 1 2 3 4 5 99 and failsafe xorg log [20:13] anyway, can you try to add 'GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text' to /etc/default/grub - run 'sudo update-grub' and see if that helps? [20:14] well in wich file? [20:14] and in which line? [20:15] sry [20:15] laberkopf: I said the file: /etc/default/grub, line doesn't matter [20:15] I mean, add it in a new line [20:16] okay [20:16] done [20:16] now reboot? [20:17] yes [20:17] okay [20:17] you did run update-grub? [20:17] I hope he did.. [20:33] xD [20:36] * yofel hopes that he didn't give the system the final push... [20:41] * BUGabundo pushes yofel harder [21:10] Is there a way to make my second monitor have it's own panel? I want to be able to have a bottom panel with the apps that are running on one monitor on that monitor's panel. [22:00] Is there a way to have the notification for volume control look how it looks when using the panel volume control, like same as the theme. === solid_liquid is now known as solid_liq