[00:25] <sunshine> hiho all
[00:27] <sunshine> anyone here?;D
[00:30] <stlsaint> sunshine: sup
[00:31] <sunshine> i need help
[00:31] <sunshine> my ubuntu is laggin'
[00:31] <sunshine> and i don't know why
[00:31] <stlsaint> sunshine: hrm, thats pretty vague, care to elaborate?
[00:32] <Schalla> @sunshine: Well, a/the processes are laggy or the graphic?
[00:32] <sunshine> hmm its like i'm using 100% of CPU but i'm not
[00:32] <sunshine> i think its video card
[00:32] <sunshine> i'm new in ubuntu
[00:33] <stlsaint> sunshine: are you using the recommended video driver?
[00:34] <sunshine> what do you mean? i was searching in "hardware drivers" but there is clean, nothing, just white background
[00:34] <stlsaint> sunshine: alright, open up a terminal
[00:34] <Schalla> Whats your GPU?
[00:34] <sunshine> yup
[00:34] <sunshine> GPU?
[00:34] <Schalla> Graphiccard :)
[00:34] <stlsaint> sunshine: enter: top
[00:35] <sunshine> yup i know it
[00:35] <stlsaint> sunshine: there you should see what is using most cpu
[00:35] <sunshine> the biigest is 3% usage of cpu
[00:35] <sunshine> biggest*
[00:35] <Schalla> Well maybe he just got a driver problem stlsaint?
[00:35] <sunshine> and there is a problem
[00:35] <sunshine> because i don't know what video card i have
[00:36] <Schalla> well ok
[00:36] <stlsaint> sunshine: in terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[00:36] <sunshine> lspci | grep VGA
[00:36] <sunshine> lspci | grep VGA
[00:37] <stlsaint> sunshine: ??
[00:37] <sunshine> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[00:37] <stlsaint> sunshine: well there ya go, thats your card
[00:37] <Schalla> stlsaint: Ever heard of that chips?
[00:37] <Schalla> Never heard that.
[00:37] <sunshine> xd
[00:37] <stlsaint> Schalla: i dont follow nor care much for ati :)
[00:38] <sunshine> i was searching
[00:38] <sunshine> for drivers
[00:38] <sunshine> for that card
[00:38] <sunshine> but nothing 've found
[00:38] <stlsaint> sunshine: since your not using alot of cpu than im going to need a more detailed description of what your issue is and what your looking to accomplish?
[00:38] <sunshine> is that e.g. when i'm minimalizing or maximializing is lagging as hell
[00:39] <Schalla> @stlsaint: I think the driver for the VGA is just not correct, so it's laggin.
[00:39] <sunshine> when i'm opening internet browser too
[00:39] <sunshine> folders too
[00:39] <sunshine> but i can normally write here
[00:39] <stlsaint> Schalla: that is a possibility
[00:39] <sunshine> without laggy
[00:39] <stlsaint> Schalla: probably right
[00:39] <sunshine> and my mouse is moveing properly
[00:40] <Schalla> Well yes, because this isn't a big change of the screen.
[00:40] <sunshine> any tips?
[00:41] <Schalla> Hm, I am googling :p I am not such a expierenced user, but I give my best :)
[00:41] <sunshine> thanks, really
[00:41] <sunshine> i'm green in this thread on ubuntu
[00:41] <stlsaint> sunshine: do you have a preferred app to view your system info?
[00:42] <sunshine> no
[00:42] <Schalla> You use Ubuntu 10.04 or?
[00:42] <sunshine> 9.10
[00:43] <Schalla> How old is your laptop?
[00:43] <Schalla> Older already, or?
[00:43] <sunshine> this is older one
[00:43] <sunshine> for testing ubuntu
[00:44] <sunshine> but it has 2 GB CPU
[00:44] <Schalla> Well I know the problem.
[00:44] <stlsaint> sunshine: go to: Applications>System tools and look to see if you have anythign there for sysinfo
[00:44] <Schalla> So listen sunshine, I will explain it to you :)
[00:44] <sunshine> device manager
[00:44] <stlsaint> that will work
[00:44] <sunshine> htop
[00:45] <stlsaint> sunshine: device manager
[00:45] <Schalla> Your graphic card is already a bit older... In the new versions the old drivers are sometimes excluded. So the graphic card doesn't work correctly and you will get everything abit laggy
[00:45] <phillw> sunshine: you may find http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=854988 to be of help
[00:45] <Schalla> but your CPU itself doesn't have any problem to work, just the graphiccard to show it to you.
[00:46] <phillw> just do not follow the link on the 1st page, read the thread and you will find out why :-D
[00:46] <sunshine> aww, i have everything corectly on my xp
[00:48] <phillw> sunshine: it does have the advantage of a [solved] tag, so it would be worth going through what it suggests
[00:50] <sunshine> i'm reading it
[00:50] <sunshine> i hope that something will help
[00:50] <Schalla> Sorry - I got a little problem.
[00:50] <Schalla> What are the news?^^
[00:51] <sunshine> i'm tryin'
[00:51] <sunshine> that thread
[00:51] <sunshine> from phillw
[00:54] <Schalla> Okay. If you're just tryin' it out on this laptop, trust me, with newer ones it works better
[00:59] <Schalla> Sunshine, anything new? :)
[00:59] <sunshine> how do i make changes in X
[00:59] <sunshine> without reboot
[01:00] <sunshine> system?
[01:00] <phillw> hmm, it seems to be old graphics card night.. try thread http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5287458 to see if it is being blacklisted. some (read most) support was dropped with the use of DKMS in the kernels
[01:00] <sunshine> its ctrl+alt+f1
[01:00] <Schalla> Changes in X?
[01:00] <Schalla> Well, thats kinda hard
[01:00] <Schalla> because X ist currently running
[01:00] <sunshine> okay i will reboot
[01:00] <Schalla> because you can chat with us.
[01:00] <Schalla> you could switch to terminal
[01:01] <Schalla> and then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:01] <Schalla> and then you could edit it
[01:11] <sunshine> back
[01:11] <duanedesign> there is a wiki page for the open source ati driver https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[01:14] <Schalla> Well.. good idea.
[01:14] <Schalla> Sunshine, could you open a terminal?
[01:14] <Schalla> and then enter this:
[01:14] <Schalla> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:14] <sunshine> and?
[01:15] <Schalla> Well.... What the thing what is standing at Driver in the "?
[01:23] <Schalla> @sunshine: Huß
[01:44] <sunshine> hi again
[01:45] <Schalla> Hi.
[01:45] <Schalla> What was written in the file?
[01:46] <sunshine> wait
[01:46] <sunshine> nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:46] <sunshine> awww
[01:46] <sunshine> not here
[01:47] <phillw> if you are using 10.04, the xorg.conf file needs to be created
[01:47] <sunshine> 9.10
[01:47] <sunshine> here
[01:47] <sunshine> what do you want from xorg.conf?
[01:47] <phillw> you _should_ have an xorg.conf in 9.10?
[01:50] <Schalla> lol or we found our problem phillw.
[01:51] <phillw> Schalla: there is no xorg.conf in 9.10
[01:52] <sunshine> i have it
[01:52] <Schalla> Sure phill?
[01:52] <phillw> http://www.osguides.net/operation-systems/217-how-to-create-xorgconf-in-ubuntu-910.html
[01:52] <sunshine> i have xorg
[01:52] <sunshine> conf
[01:56] <phillw> if your exisiting one is giving you a hard time, you can recreate it (just do cp the existing one over to .old before you go altering it all)
[01:56] <phillw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[01:56] <Schalla> @phillw: Could it maybe help if he changes the driver to "ati" if it is standing on fglrx?
[01:59] <phillw> Schalla: I'm not up on drivers for graphics, I know the basics. http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 would be my suggestion
[03:05] <yax51> ok I think I found my problem!
[03:07] <yax51> I think my RAM is broke....
[03:09] <holstein> yax51: did you run the memtest?
[03:10] <yax51> I did....twice actually and it showed all sorts of errors....
[03:12] <holstein> yax51: sounds like it
[03:13] <holstein> do you have 2 ram sticks?
[03:13] <holstein> maybe you can just take one out
[03:13] <holstein> and get by with half the ram, or whatever your left with
[03:13] <yax51> I believe so....I'm going to take it in for a diagnostic tomarrow and go from there
[03:14] <yax51> I might even upgrade it....I have 4GB DDR 2 in my machine now....
[03:18] <phillw> yax51: and holstein welcome to the broken hardware department :p my laptop hard drive has now officially checked in as "sick" :-(
[03:18] <yax51> lame!!
[03:18] <yax51> and the best part?
[03:18] <yax51> my warranty just expired!!!
[03:19] <phillw> so much for saving up for a new external 1TB hard drive, I've had to buy http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001JSSDGU/ref=oss_product
[03:19] <phillw> which is not too bad, as my poorly one is only 80GB
[03:21] <holstein> yax51: you could test your machine with each ram stick in there
[03:21] <holstein> and then you can identify which is bad
[03:21] <holstein> and leave it out
[03:22] <holstein> and decide if you need it replaced
[03:22] <holstein> then you can go to the store and get the replacement part if you need to
[03:22] <holstein> thats bascically what the tech will do
[03:22] <yax51> yeah, but running a gaming laptop on 2GB of RAM doesn't seem right to me......
[03:23] <yax51> this is true, but I'm not confident in my abilities to open my laptop up and do it myself....
[03:23] <phillw> or test them each on their own, and try swapping them over in their sockets..... funnier things have happened.
[03:24] <holstein> yax51: its not that bad really
[03:24] <holstein> you should google it
[03:24] <holstein> if your interested
[03:24] <holstein> by your model
[03:25] <holstein> there are a lot of nice pictures up usually
[03:25] <yax51> I would if my browser worked.....
[03:25] <phillw> RAM is usually not too scary too get at in a laptop; there's often a you-tube video for it
[03:25] <holstein> and how-to's
[03:25] <holstein> yax51: you could save quite a bit of bread
[03:26] <yax51> right now it I am running linux and it will only do certain things....and firefox isnt one of those things
[03:26] <yax51> Holstein: true, but 45 bucks for a diagnostic isn't bad.....bestbuy wanted 70....
[03:26] <phillw> yax51: are you running off the LiveCD ?
[03:26] <yax51> Phillw: no....
[03:27] <phillw> well, before you pay 45 bucks, try it.... it's free :-D
[03:28] <yax51> true.....but I'm stil not quiet sure if its just the RAM or if the harddrive is tweaking out....
[03:28] <holstein> yax51: you could need a 20 dollar part
[03:28] <holstein> if its not passing the memtest
[03:28] <holstein> its ram
[03:28] <holstein> yax51: does it click or anything?
[03:29] <holstein> usually you can hear when a hard drive is failing
[03:29] <yax51> no, no clicking or anything....
[03:33] <phillw> yax51: a hard disk dying looks like this http://pastebin.com/V5Eci970 if you do "tail /var/log/syslog"
[03:34] <yax51> I can't see the link....firefox won't open.... :(
[03:35] <phillw> I can't paste it, I'd get kicked for flooding
[03:36] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:36] <phillw> but, if you are seeing
[03:36] <phillw> Jul 21 23:48:41 piglet-lubuntu kernel: [442693.626215] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed
[03:36] <phillw> Jul 21 23:48:41 piglet-lubuntu kernel: [442693.626222] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 02 a4 30 00 00 08 00
[03:36] <phillw> or that sort of thing, it's a hard disk
[03:37] <holstein> AH, nm
[03:37] <holstein> i see what your saying :)
[03:39] <phillw> holstein: where is hard disk utilities on ubuntu? It should be under the admin section, but I'm running lubuntu. from there yax51should be able to see the SMART alerts on hard drives
[03:40] <holstein> you mean system - administration - system monitor ?
[03:41] <phillw> It is a gnome thing, "Disk Utility"
[03:41] <yax51> running the self test now.....we
[03:41] <yax51> we will see if that pops up anything
[03:43] <yax51> I get a warning for reallocated sector count, and three bad sectors...
[03:43] <holstein> phillw: im not sure
[03:43] <holstein> i find disk usuage analyzer
[03:44] <holstein> anyways, i gotta run...
[03:44] <holstein> laterx
[04:49] <yax51> YAY!!!! solved the issue!!!
[04:51] <phillw> yax51: let me guess; you thumped it :p
[04:51] <yax51> hehehe no I removed the bad ram
[04:59] <phillw> yax51: well, at least you now believe that when mem-test says there is a problem, you will believe it :-)
[05:00] <yax51> hehehe this is true.....now I just need to find some more RAM....how do I find which type I need? I know I need 2GB DDR2, but thats about it
[05:03] <phillw> well, tell me the make and model of the computer and I will have look for you.
[05:04] <yax51> asus g50vt
[05:04] <yax51> I can't seem to find it
[05:05] <holstein> good for you yax51 :)
[05:06] <phillw> yax51: is it this one? http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/asus-g50vt-x5/4507-3121_7-33496181.html
[05:08] <yax51> http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=fdhHRbJtRlOCqy5C&content=specifications
[05:08] <yax51> I think its this one....
[05:10] <phillw> http://www.crucial.com/upgrade/compatible-memory-for/ASUS/G50Vt/list.html?click=true
[05:11] <phillw> yax51: I think that is your laptop?
[05:12] <yax51> that looks right.....how do I tell how many pins it has?
[05:12] <phillw> you need not, just confirm that is the make and model of laptop
[05:13] <yax51> asus g50vt....yup
[05:13] <phillw> then, that is the correct memory. crucial have a really good database of computers; that memory stick will fit your computer.
[05:14] <yax51> cool
[05:14] <yax51> how are they on returns? just in case.....
[05:15] <phillw> yax51: are you in the usa?
[05:15] <yax51> yes
[05:16] <phillw> click on the "chat here" to chat to one of the agents; they're also real good :-)
[05:30] <phillw> yax51: btw, http://www.crucial.com/support/returns.aspx
[05:46] <yax51> sweet!
[05:46] <yax51> thanks!
[05:48] <yax51> alright..now anyone else have any issues when you minimize stuff it just goes away and not to the panel where it belongs?
[05:49] <phillw> mine behaves, but I'm using lubuntu and not gnome
[05:52] <yax51> well I'm using Ubuntu 10.04, and GNOME I think......
[05:55] <phillw> yax51: that is a different bug ;-)
[05:55] <yax51> it is......
[05:56] <yax51> its irritating to half to alt+tab to navigate multiple windows....
[06:02] <phillw> I'm on lxde, and have been for a while. you'll have to wait for gnome users to wake up.
[06:11] <yax51> Never mind I fixed it
[06:13] <phillw> yax51: you're learning ubuntu pretty quickly :p
[06:14] <yax51> thanks!
[06:16] <yax51> now I just need to get my RAM and then I'll be dangerous!
[06:19] <yax51> I've discovered the forums....
[06:21] <phillw> they're a great area, when you google for some thing just add +ubuntu to the end of it and it will find you the postings on the forum area
[06:36] <yax51> oooh thats good to know
[06:54] <saj> Hi all, I am new to linux and have questions regarding samba shares. Am I in the right place?
[06:59] <yax51> sure why not?
[11:10] <bonyx> i am getting an unable to mount error on log on when i try accessing my ntfs partition. i am using ubuntu 10.04 any help?
[11:46] <ubsarah> Hello and sorry for distrubing... but can i use the "special characters" for my Ubuntu Root Password? Or will this produce problems?
[11:47] <ubsarah> Not that i can't verify me later with sadu, because Ubuntu don't supporting special chracters.
[11:48] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:48] <duanedesign> ubsarah: you wish to use !@#$%^&*() in your sudo password?
[11:49] <ubsarah> Yes... right. It's possible? Or will it produce Problems?
[11:49] <ubsarah> I'm in the installation of ubuntu and this times this idea comes over me.
[11:51] <duanedesign> ubsarah: no it is ok
[11:51] <ubsarah> Cool... can i ask something more?
[11:51] <duanedesign> ubsarah:  in fact it is recommended you use at least 2 in your password
[11:52] <duanedesign> along with 2 uppercase, 2 lowercase, and 2 numbers to ensure a strong password.
[11:52] <duanedesign> :)
[11:52] <duanedesign> ubsarah: ask all you want
[11:53] <ubsarah> duanedesign: Then it's good. I worry about that because some systems in the past don't supporting that.
[11:56] <ubsarah> After 1-2 week of ubuntu testing for compatibilty and possibilites... i decide to switch. No i backuped personal data. Cleard my harddrive and have create a 200gb installation of windows (for things what ubuntu can't start in wine/vm or have alternatives). Now i in the setup of ubuntu and asking me how much size i've to give the root ( / ) partition. I will have next to the windows partition a root ( / ), a home ( /home) and
[11:56] <ubsarah> a swap ( :D ) paritition.
[11:57] <duanedesign> ok
[11:57] <ubsarah> At the moment i playing with sizes between 50 or 100gb for the root partition. I worried about... that if i will use only 10 or 20gb for the root ( / ) partition... this will be to few for the future.
[11:58] <duanedesign> ubsarah: one thing that will suprise you about Ubuntu is how little disk space it uses for programs
[11:58] <ubsarah> Ah... swap will become 4gb (for hibernate) and the home directory the free space after the root partition.
[11:59] <duanedesign> ubsarah: the use of dependencies greatly reduces the size needed for applications
[12:00] <duanedesign> ubsarah: i made my / 15GB and i have never come close to filling it up
[12:00] <ubsarah> I understand... what is with virtualbox or vmware vms? And wine installed programs... where ubuntu will save them? At home or in one of the directorys in the root partition.
[12:00] <duanedesign> ubsarah: i have only used 8gb
[12:02] <duanedesign> ubsarah: Your guests and their settings folder should be located at /home/.virtualbox/
[12:02] <ubsarah> And Wine installed win-applications?
[12:03] <Puck`> News: Official Ubuntu Translation Team are getting the Ubuntu Font too
[12:03] <Silver_Fox_> Good, Puck`
[12:04] <Puck`> http://design.canonical.com/2010/07/native-readers-extending-the-beta/
[12:04] <duanedesign> ubsarah: /home/.wine/drive_c
[12:04] <ubsarah> I understand, that nothing size-hungry thing will sit on the root partition?
[12:09] <ubsarah> Then i will choose for my first time 20gb, 5 for swap and the  goes to the home partition. Thanks for your help... in the german ubuntu forums site they are not so fast and friendly.
[12:11] <ubsarah> Ah one more question.
[12:12] <ubsarah> Can anyone in the internet see my hostname (i mean the name for my computer) ... i ask because i want to know if i've to choose a personal name or something meaningless.
[12:15] <Puck`> ubsarah: usually a computer name is needed for local hosts, but it can be used for wide area networks too
[12:16] <Puck`> just choose something you wish, doesn't really matter if you call it "Marry" "Bob" or "sdkjfskf"
[12:19] <duanedesign> ubsarah: i have also noticed when working with people in the Ubuntu community you share screenshots and Terminal snippets that sometimes contain your hostname. You could easily edit that out, but something to think about.
[12:22] <ubsarah> I only want to have my rest and don't have to worry about technic afim guys who tell you suddelny your name, adress or thuch horror stuff.
[12:23] <ubsarah> Thanks for you help... the installation starting over now. You helped me alot and saved me time too.
[12:23] <ubsarah> helps
[12:26] <duanedesign> ubsarah: we enjoy helping :)
[12:29] <ubsarah> *wink* Thanky... bye.
[15:22] <gordonbp> I used the Netbook install on my laptop (because it's MUCH faster than the CD) but the visual effects are greyed out - how can I re-enable them?
[16:14] <Malignus> On my Desktop version of Ubuntu (9.10), my iowait spikes for 90 - 120 seconds whenever I launch a terminal or nautilus.  Nothing populates when I run sudo iotop -o while this occurs.  What should I do?
[16:14] <Malignus> Sorry, 10.04.
[17:18] <severity1> good day evryone :)
[17:29] <tenach[Laptop]> hello severity1
[18:16] <sebsebseb> Hi
[18:16] <stlsaint> hihihi
[18:17] <sebsebseb> stlsaint: hi
[19:29] <zamar35> Hi, I installed Ubuntu server, then added Ubuntu desktop GUI. When I try startx, the PC starts GUI but goes to command promt and hangs with no message. Why?
[19:30] <zamar35> I mean it starts loading something, but still no GUi on-screen, and finally hangs on command prompt same a server prompt.
[19:32] <pleia2> zamar35: might want to check out the .xsession-errors file to see if it gives you any clues
[19:33] <zamar35> How? I'm totally new
[19:33] <sebsebseb> zamar35: not really meant to have a GUI in the server edition, can have one though, but you can also do servers in standard desktop edition
[19:33] <pleia2> also might look to see if there is an .xinitrc doing anything unusual
[19:33] <pleia2> zamar35: nano .xsession-errors
[19:33] <pleia2> nano is a simple text editor
[19:34] <zamar35> I started xsession.  What should I do in it?
[19:35] <pleia2> but yeah, as sebsebseb mentioneds the server edition isn't really built for a gui, so you may need to install all the xorg server components for your card, a window manager, etc and get it all configured yourself
[19:35] <pleia2> look through that file and see if you find any errors that look useful
[19:35] <sebsebseb> zamar35: also the desktop stuff won't get the five years of support in a LTS server edition, only the server stuff
[19:35] <zamar35> its empty
[19:36] <sebsebseb> !lts
[19:36] <ubot2`> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Hardy (Hardy Herron 8.04)
[19:36]  * pleia2 back to work, boss on phone
[19:36] <sebsebseb> pleia2: ok that factoid needs changing or merging from latest ubottu stuff
[19:36] <sebsebseb> 10.04 is latest
[19:38] <pleia2> sebsebseb: I don't have anything to do with the bots and I'm not sure exactly how it's done, maybe ask in #ubuntu-bots ?
[19:39] <sebsebseb> pleia2: nah
[19:39] <zamar35> how to check .xinitrc? Or its better to install Ubuntu Desktop instead of server?
[19:39] <sebsebseb> I don't care that much about the bots really, so nope
[19:39] <sebsebseb> pleia2: plus I have been in that channel before, and it seems to be mainly for playing with the bots
[19:39] <sebsebseb> zamar35: What kind of server do you want to do?
[19:40] <zamar35> I just wanted to try. Probably the wrong move anyway...
[19:40] <sebsebseb> zamar35: Try what server edition?
[19:40] <sebsebseb> !server | zamar35
[19:40] <ubot2`> zamar35: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Hardy (Hardy Herron 8.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server
[19:40] <zamar35> Ubuntu 10.04
[19:40] <sebsebseb> zamar35: just using the factoid, not telling you to go to the server channel, by the way
[19:41] <sebsebseb> zamar35: Right, but what kind of server do you want to do, web server? FTP server? What?
[19:41] <zamar35> I guess I try desktop first.
[19:42] <sebsebseb> zamar35: ok so you don't really want to run a server?
[19:42] <zamar35> How do I logout from this chat?
[19:43] <sebsebseb> zamar35: don't go just yet
[19:43] <sebsebseb> zamar35: and if you want to try the desktop version well this will help a lot
[19:43] <sebsebseb> !manual
[19:43] <ubot2`> The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[19:44] <sebsebseb> zamar35: and heres a great tip,  check your downloaded ISO before using, make sure its a good download, so you get a good install
[19:44] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[19:44] <ubot2`> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[19:44] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[19:44] <ubot2`> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs.
[19:44] <zamar35> Basically, since it took much time to install the sewhat I already installed instead of reinstalling the desktop edition?rver, and then install desktop, I wonder if I can fix
[19:45] <sebsebseb> zamar35: I woudn't recommend starting with a server edition for any Linux distro/distribution
[19:45] <sebsebseb> zamar35: better to start with a desktop version, and go from there
[19:45] <sebsebseb> plus if you want to try setting up a server, you can in the desktop version as well, as I mentioned earlier
[19:45] <zamar35> Thats what I think now. But how to log out from this chat?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> zamar35: uhmm
[19:46] <sebsebseb> wow
[19:47] <sebsebseb> zamar35: I just did the version thing,  are you realy on Windows 98?
[19:47] <sebsebseb> zamar35: if so not a good idea to have that online,  Microsoft haven't supported it for years now
[19:47] <zamar35> I don't use chats often. I see Joint, List on top, but no Leave
[19:48] <Silver_Fox_> Bonjour
[19:48] <sebsebseb> zamar35: says your on Opera as well
[19:48] <Silver_Fox_> o/
[19:48] <sebsebseb> zamar35: so closing the browser would close the chat as well
[19:48] <zamar35> Is that the only way?
[19:48] <sebsebseb> zamar35: theres probably another way to close Operas IRC, but I don't use it
[19:49] <sebsebseb> zamar35: by the way most Windows 98 apps will probably run in Wine these days
[19:49] <sebsebseb> !wine | zamar35
[19:49] <ubot2`> zamar35: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[19:49] <zamar35> Thanks a lot guys! Very friendly, but no sigar...