[00:36] <bitshuffler> Hi guys. Could anyone of you please be so kind to name me some properly done "noarch" package so I can have a look at its .dsc and control files?
[00:38] <bitshuffler> (I'm happy with its name but since I don't run Ubuntu it is a bit hard to lookup)
[02:19] <ScottK> bitshuffler_: What the RPM world calls 'noarch', we call Arch 'all'.
[02:19] <ScottK> RPM arch is Debian Arch any.
[02:22] <bitshuffler_> ScottK: thanks :)
[02:23] <ScottK> bitshuffler_: You're welcome.
[03:19] <crimsun_> bdrung: I can't unsub ubuntu-sponsors from #581786 else I would have.
[03:20] <crimsun_> (Also, I have no idea why you can't see the upload...)
[05:46] <soreau> Can anyone tell me the difference between kdelibs4-dev and kdelibs5-dev? Ultimately I'm trying to figure out which deps are needed to build kde4-window-decorator for compiz
[06:33] <theRealSaint> hey, where do I go for kernel related queries on Ubuntu?
[06:33] <theRealSaint> dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-image-2.6.35-rc5-custom+ not in control info
[06:33] <theRealSaint> am getting this error while compiling a vanilla kernel on ubuntu
[06:34] <SwedeMike> I'd imagine #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1 are the places to go, depending on what version you're running
[06:36] <achiang> theRealSaint: why are you building a kernel? if all you want is a vanilla kernel, i believe there are mainline dailies (or at least -rc) that you can install
[06:55] <theRealSaint> achiang, i am trying to tinker with the kernel. so i have my own changes to compile
[06:57] <achiang> theRealSaint: if you're doing that, i usually find it to be much easier to just grab linus's git tree, make defconfig, make, sudo make modules_install, sudo make install, sudo mkinitramfs, reboot
[06:57] <achiang> instead of messing around with packages, etc.
[06:57] <achiang> but that's just me
[06:58] <theRealSaint> achiang, that will mess up the installation
[06:58] <theRealSaint> building debs helps me keep track of what is there
[06:58] <theRealSaint> it's easier grub configuration, easier uninstall etc.,
[06:58] <achiang> theRealSaint: it won't mess up anything if you're careful. ;)
[06:59] <achiang> theRealSaint: well, you can try asking in #ubuntu-kernel for the proper way to do it, although i suspect they'll tell you to go read the wiki
[06:59] <theRealSaint> achiang, which wiki? :)
[07:00] <achiang> theRealSaint: maybe you have CONFIG_LOCALVERSION and CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO turned on. istr that's how the + character shows up
[07:01] <achiang> theRealSaint: start here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam poke around as necessary
[07:01] <achiang> oops, start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel
[07:02] <theRealSaint> achiang, ok. thanks...
[07:05] <achiang> theRealSaint: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[07:06] <achiang> i forgot to mention make firmware_install above
[07:08] <theRealSaint> achiang, i was actually following that article when I encountered this error
[07:43] <bilalakhtar> Please sponsor fix for bug #155930
[07:43] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 155930 in synaptic (Ubuntu) ""Unmark all" clears the package list (!)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155930
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[08:56] <LucidFox> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gnome-globalmenu <-- Is there a point for getting this into Ubuntu anymore?
[09:19] <ccheney> does DH_ALWAYS_EXCLUDE not work on native packages?
[09:19] <ccheney> it doesn't seem to be working for me
[09:23] <ccheney> anyone happen to know how to work around the issue?
[09:26] <ccheney> hmm seems to be -I as part of dpkg-source
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[10:08] <Chipzz> achiang: why are you suggesting ppl to work around the package management system? on an official ubuntu channel nonetheless?
[10:09] <Chipzz> that is EXTREMELY poor advice to give, please don't do it again
[10:12] <asac> RAOF: your netbook is really UNSTABLE ;)
[10:13]  * asac reboots ;)
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[10:16] <asac> hah ... 2d session also crashes :(
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[10:52] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: any thought on the two patches in bug #241206 #16?
[10:52] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 241206 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu) "Gnome Screensaver does not activate reliably" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241206
[10:53] <RAOF> asac: Hm.  I *think* I downgraded the crashy Xserver 1.9RC from that netbook… :)
[10:54] <lool> robbiew, doko: Hey, I understand there's an issue with linux on i386; do you want me to come down with a toolchain engineer to look into it?
[10:56] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, i'll have a look at those in a bit
[10:56] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: cool, thanks
[11:09] <agutierr> someone knows how disable reboot/halt options from gnome?? (ubuntu 10.04) thanks!
[11:22] <asac> RAOF: no problem ;)
[11:22] <asac> gles works ;)
[11:22] <asac> 2
[11:30] <RAOF> asac: Yay!
[11:30] <RAOF> asac: With what sort of performance?
[11:31] <asac> RAOF: more frames than i get on a beagle :)
[11:31] <RAOF> :)
[11:31] <asac> about twice as many frames
[11:31] <asac> so beagle has like 25/30 ... this has 50/60
[11:32] <asac> unfortunately the battery ran out of fuel so i am charging now before i can go and show that to arm team downstairs ;)
[11:47] <RAOF> :)
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[14:38] <lfaraone> pitti: Is there anything special to keep in mind if I were to attempt a merge in a newer version of CDBS in maverick?
[14:42] <achiang> Chipzz: i'll note the exact same advice was given out on #ubuntu-kernel a few minutes afterwards
[14:46] <Chipzz> then also note that ubuntu-kernel is a channel with lots of ubuntu developers, who *know* what they're doing and are capable of repairing any damage done to their system
[14:46] <Chipzz> unlike someone who may just want to test a patch
[14:47] <Chipzz> when I'm trying to patch something, I'll sometimes take the ./configure; make; make install route myself for testing too; but I keep track of my changes, and I'm able to undo anything I have done in the process
[14:48] <Chipzz> it's certainly not sth I will recommend to anyone
[14:50] <achiang> anyhow, if you feel the urge to yell at me again, i suggest private /msg.
[15:10] <ogra> kirkland, pingaling
[15:54] <pitti> lfaraone: nothing in particular; it has quite a solid test suite
[15:55] <pitti> lfaraone: as for testing, I recommend building e. g. apport (it has l10n, multiple binaries, etc), then upgrading cdbs, building apport with that, an debdiffing the resulting binaries
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[16:36] <didrocks> Keybuk: is it normal that when I refresh netbook-meta, I get: Removed plymouth-x11 from netbook-recommends
[16:38] <Keybuk> didrocks: I don't know what netbook-meta is, so I can't answer any questions as to its normal behaviour
[16:38] <didrocks> Keybuk: it's the ubuntu-netbook metapackage
[16:38] <Keybuk> that will depend on the seed contents, surely?
[16:39] <pitti> didrocks: check the seeds history?
[16:39] <\sh> slangasek: do you remember bug #504224 ?
[16:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 504224 in mountall (Ubuntu Lucid) "NFS mounts at boot time prevent boot or print spurious errors" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/504224
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[16:40] <didrocks> Keybuk: right, it depends on the ~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/netbook.maverick seed which contains any recent change  related to it. Should look at the common part from the ubuntu desktop seed
[16:40] <slangasek> didrocks: plymouth-x11 has just been removed from the desktop-common seed; Riddell checked with me since I was the one who added it last cycle at the point that plymouth binary packages got split up, in order to keep it out of kubuntu given that it's gtk-based; if you guys are using it, I would suggest adding it to your seed
[16:41] <slangasek> \sh: vaguely
[16:43] <\sh> slangasek: yesterday I ran into the very same problem with NFS shares mounted at boottime..with lucid...the only fix was to add "nolock" to the options..everything else didn't work
[16:43] <didrocks> slangasek: is it the package containing the plymouth interface? that will mean that at next desktop refresh as well, we won't have plymouth interacting with X too. As I'm not the maintainer of this piece, I was thinking Keybuk would have known if this package is important to keep or not…
[16:44] <didrocks> slangasek: thanks for the info :)
[16:44] <slangasek> didrocks: it's the package containing the plymouth frontend /that runs under X/, which TTBOMK no one is using today
[16:45] <didrocks> slangasek: ok, let's go that way first (not adding it) and seeing tomorrow live. Thanks :)
[16:45] <slangasek> \sh: you should file a new bug
[16:46] <Keybuk> right, the X backend is intended for theme designers atm
[16:47] <didrocks> Keybuk: ok, thanks. I won't include it so.
[16:53] <\sh> slangasek: will do...
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[18:26] <dobey> hey all
[18:27] <dobey> anyone have any idea why pysupport would be having my setup.py install stuff in usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages instead of usr/share/pyshared?
[18:54] <dobey> nobody? :(
[20:03] <lifeless> dobey: backport or current distro ?
[20:04] <dobey> maverick
[20:04] <lifeless> thats unusual
[20:04] <dobey> lifeless: i got it fixed, but haven't figured out the issue though.
[20:05] <dobey> lifeless: if i put the usr/lib/python2.6/... bits in the .install file, then the resulting package has them in usr/share/pyshared instead
[20:05] <dobey> so something must happen *after* the .install parsing that does it
[20:44] <EtienneG> slangasek, hey there; got a question for you, since you seems to be the author of pam-auth-update
[20:45] <EtienneG> slangasek, let's say I wanted to write a profile a pam-auth-update profile for pam_group
[20:45] <EtienneG> (whether or not this is a good idea, I am not sure yet)
[20:45] <EtienneG> I see that libpam-modules does not provide any profile for the base module
[20:46] <EtienneG> slangasek, my question is: 1. is there a good reason for that?, and 2. if I wanted to write such a profile, which naming convention should I use?
[20:47] <EtienneG> re: naming convention above, I mean, how should I name the profile file to drop in /usr/share/pam-config/ ?
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[22:34] <bigon> are there any problems with amd64 builder?
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