doctormo | Hey lfaraone are you still doing sugar on a buntu? | 01:01 |
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lfaraone | doctormo: yes, I am. | 01:02 |
doctormo | lfaraone: I was surprised to hear of your involvement when I was on my way to FOSSed | 01:02 |
lfaraone | doctormo: oh? why's that? | 01:02 |
lfaraone | doctormo: Ian told me you said hi. | 01:02 |
doctormo | lfaraone: normally the community is very fragmented, it was a pleasant surprise to see a project involved with someone who I consider to be inside the bowels of ubuntu packaging. | 01:04 |
lfaraone | doctormo: yeah, we're working on that :) thanks. more hands welcome, of course. | 01:04 |
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doctormo | lfaraone: I'm not really a developer other than python, although I was thinking of all the google docs people when I wrote yesterday's blog post. | 01:30 |
ScottK | lfaraone: Got python-xpcom figured out yet? | 02:20 |
lfaraone | ScottK: no, I'm not very familiar with the problems faced in that situation. | 03:30 |
ScottK | lfaraone: Short version is xulrunner no longer ships python-xpcom which a bunch of sugar apps depend on. | 04:09 |
lfaraone | ScottK: is there a reason it's excluded from Ubuntu? (IIRC it's in Debian) | 04:10 |
ScottK | lfaraone: Debian is still on the older xulrunner that supported it. | 04:10 |
micahg | lfaraone: chrisccoulson said he'd look into packaging pyxpcom | 04:11 |
lfaraone | ScottK: ah, makes sense then. | 04:17 |
lfaraone | micahg: awesome. is there a way I can help out? | 04:17 |
micahg | lfaraone: I don't have any details at this point, as soon as I hear something, I'll let you know | 04:17 |
micahg | ScottK: is it ok to subscribe an AA to a bug where they only need to act on 1 task out of 4? | 04:18 |
ScottK | micahg: Yes, but please make sure there's a clear comment about what they need to do. | 04:25 |
micahg | ScottK: k, thanks | 04:32 |
raywang | hey there, I have a problem that I want to use apt-get to only download packages, but not installing then, i could pass -d option. but if want to download the packages to other directory rather than /var/cache/apt/archives, is that possible? :-) | 07:41 |
james_w | raywang: you can do it with "aptitude download" | 07:48 |
raywang | jacob, if then, using aptitude system wouldn't conflict with apt system ? | 07:49 |
raywang | oops, sorry | 07:49 |
raywang | james_w, I have learned they don't share the same database | 07:49 |
james_w | raywang: just downloading the file doesn't do anything to the database | 07:49 |
raywang | ok | 07:50 |
james_w | and doesn't install to the system, so there is not an issue | 07:50 |
raywang | james_w, make sense, but they are conflict, aren't they? | 07:50 |
raywang | i mean if I use both to install packages | 07:51 |
james_w | raywang: no, it's not a problem to use both | 07:51 |
raywang | got it, thanks a lot :) | 07:52 |
raywang | james_w, by reading manpage, aptitude download just download package to current dir, then how can I specify a directory for it? | 07:54 |
james_w | raywang: cd :-) | 07:56 |
raywang | well, it can be a workaround. :-) | 07:56 |
raywang | thank you | 07:56 |
LucidFox | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gnome-globalmenu <-- Is there a point for getting this into Ubuntu anymore? It basically duplicates the functionality for the UNE global menu, except for GTK only and in a more hackish way. | 08:57 |
jcastro | LucidFox: not really | 09:10 |
LucidFox | I'll archive it, then? | 09:10 |
siretart | I'd think so. if the submitter feels otherwise, he'll probably argue about this | 09:13 |
LucidFox | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/mangler-1007160700/mangler-1.2.0/debian/patches/05_zap_la.patch <-- hmmmm | 09:45 |
BlackZ | dholbach: sablotron has not a section so soyuz will never upload it, I reported that to debian | 09:45 |
LucidFox | Would a better way be patching just .am and calling dh_autoreconf? | 09:45 |
BlackZ | (a section in the source package) | 09:45 |
dholbach | BlackZ: that should be fixed in soyuz | 09:46 |
BlackZ | dholbach: but the package has not a section in the source package | 09:46 |
dholbach | ah ok | 09:46 |
LucidFox | Is the rule about MOTUs needing one other developer to review new packages still in effect? | 09:53 |
dholbach | LucidFox: I think it says "encouraged" or something | 09:56 |
wgrant | BlackZ, dholbach: What's this issue? | 09:57 |
BlackZ | wgrant: we're not able to upload a package without the section in the source package | 09:57 |
dholbach | wgrant: sorry, I misunderstdoof the problem | 09:57 |
BlackZ | dholbach: tried that | 09:57 |
dholbach | BlackZ: tried what? | 09:57 |
BlackZ | dholbach: you tried to upload sablotron | 09:58 |
dholbach | ah ok | 09:58 |
dholbach | yes | 09:58 |
BlackZ | I meant that ;) | 09:58 |
LucidFox | In that case, could someone review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/juffed ? Just want one advocate and then I'll upload. | 10:10 |
LucidFox | been lying for a while without any comments at all | 10:10 |
BlackZ | LucidFox: we should encourage who wants to get a new package in ubuntu to get it in debian directly | 10:10 |
LucidFox | Well, thing is, unlike Ubuntu, I don't have direct upload rights into Debian :) | 10:11 |
LucidFox | granted, I *could* upload it to mentors.debian.net and file an ITP... | 10:12 |
BlackZ | LucidFox: if you want to upload it go ahead (if it's good for upload), but tell the REVU uploader to try getting it in debian directly | 10:13 |
LucidFox | Eh... It's mine. | 10:13 |
LucidFox | I packaged it | 10:13 |
BlackZ | LucidFox: ah, ok | 10:13 |
LucidFox | by the way, BlackZ, I'm looking at ppa-purge | 10:14 |
BlackZ | LucidFox: I have to fix some things with it -- BTW it's better to get ppa-purge just in ubuntu as debian does not support PPAs | 10:14 |
* LucidFox nods | 10:15 | |
Rhonda | LucidFox: Got my shirt!! | 10:15 |
LucidFox | Pix plz? :) | 10:15 |
LucidFox | of the shirt, I mean | 10:15 |
Rhonda | LucidFox: http://www.cafepress.co.uk/VEWarning | 10:16 |
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LucidFox | BlackZ> commented on ppa-purge | 10:18 |
BlackZ | LucidFox: I'll check | 10:19 |
LucidFox | Other than that looks fine, fix those problems and I'll advocate it. | 10:20 |
BlackZ | LucidFox: I can advocate it myself too but I'd prefer to wait | 10:21 |
BlackZ | I have it in my TODO list :) | 10:21 |
LucidFox | Wait? What for? | 10:21 |
BlackZ | LucidFox: some fix in debian/rules, for example: add get-orig-source | 10:22 |
BlackZ | LucidFox: I'll do a new upload on REVU soon | 10:24 |
* LucidFox nods | 10:24 | |
geser | lfaraone: as you care about the sugar packages: what should happen to the remaining 0.84 and 0.86 sugar packages in the archive? | 10:27 |
LucidFox | dholbach, while on the subject of Behind MOTU: I never got an interview, because apparently I was MOTU'd before they became standard practice; is there any point in doing one now? | 10:29 |
dholbach | LucidFox: sure | 10:32 |
dholbach | LucidFox: I'd love it to be more active again, but I just don't have time for it any more :-/ | 10:32 |
LucidFox | dholbach> So, who could I contact to have an interview? Your successor? | 10:39 |
LucidFox | When one emerges, that is | 10:39 |
LucidFox | For that matter, how are the interviews done? In real time IM, or in voice chat, or does the interviewee send a text file with all the answers at once? | 10:40 |
dholbach | LucidFox: I just sent an email | 10:43 |
dholbach | LucidFox: and it was very boring because I always used the same questions :) | 10:43 |
LucidFox | Heh | 10:43 |
dholbach | LucidFox: I'll send you one :-P | 10:43 |
LucidFox | I suppose I could volunteer to succeed you - after my interview is done, though, because it would be odd to interview myself :) | 10:43 |
dholbach | awesome | 10:44 |
LucidFox | Yes, I saw your email in the mailing list, that's why I was asking | 10:44 |
dholbach | LucidFox: if you have a wordpress.com account, can you let me know which email you used to register with? | 10:44 |
dholbach | LucidFox: and nigelb wants to be co-editor | 10:44 |
dholbach | awesome | 10:44 |
dholbach | :-D | 10:44 |
dholbach | a team! | 10:44 |
nigelb | LucidFox: ah, you're there too :) | 10:46 |
nigelb | do you want to interview yourself or want me to do it ? :p | 10:46 |
LucidFox | I jut said it would be odd to interview myself, so I'd rather let either dholbach or you do it | 10:47 |
dholbach | LucidFox: just about to send that mail | 10:47 |
LucidFox | and dholbach, my wordpress.com email is the same as here, sikon@ubuntu.com, account name LucidFox | 10:47 |
dholbach | thanks LucidFox | 10:47 |
dholbach | nigelb: your wordpress.com email you registered with? | 10:47 |
nigelb | nigelbabu@gmail | 10:48 |
dholbach | LucidFox, nigelb: done | 10:49 |
dholbach | in the past I interviewed people who just joined MOTU team | 10:49 |
dholbach | maybe it'd make sense to move to people who join ubuntu-dev now? I don't know | 10:50 |
dholbach | I'll leave that to you guys :) | 10:50 |
dholbach | oh and also add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Interviews | 10:51 |
nigelb | LucidFox: what is your TZ? | 10:53 |
LucidFox | UTC+6, UTC+7 DST | 10:53 |
xelister | hi, how would I go about customizing an ubuntu live CD | 10:53 |
xelister | I just need to have some script auto-run (after X is started), change default config (disable gfx effects etc) and perhaps remove list of packages on cd | 10:54 |
nigelb | LucidFox: ok, we're only 2 to 2.5 hours apart. Talk in the evening? (I'm at work now) | 10:54 |
LucidFox | Sure | 10:54 |
nigelb | :) | 10:55 |
dholbach | LucidFox, nigelb: thanks so much! | 10:57 |
dholbach | LucidFox, nigelb: agraner also does some interviews, maybe she has a few ideas how to do stuff as well | 10:58 |
dholbach | ROCK! | 10:58 |
nigelb | dholbach: yeah, watiting for oscon to end | 10:58 |
BlackZ | LucidFox: new version of ppa-purge uploaded to REVU | 11:06 |
BlackZ | however I did not created the get-orig-source rule in debian/rules as a Vcs field is already in debian/control , so you will be warned if there's a new branch | 11:07 |
tumbleweed | BlackZ: get-orig-source is for building repacks, it shouldn't have anything to do with Vcs | 11:20 |
BlackZ | tumbleweed: in this case you can use bzr-builddeb | 11:21 |
BlackZ | if you put a Vcs field in debian/control it will warn you about the new branch | 11:22 |
tumbleweed | BlackZ: are you saying that the upstream maintains /debian too? | 11:23 |
BlackZ | tumbleweed: yes | 11:23 |
tumbleweed | aah, in that case it's probably best to think of it as a native package | 11:24 |
tumbleweed | then you don't need get-orig-source | 11:24 |
BlackZ | actually I'm not sure if it can be a native ubuntu package | 11:24 |
tumbleweed | then it might be best to fork the packaging. What if we need to change something? | 11:26 |
BlackZ | tumbleweed: well, upstream has different things in debian/ than us, this is one of the reason why I'm not advocating it yet | 11:27 |
BlackZ | I need to talk with upstream | 11:28 |
tumbleweed | BlackZ: um, I'd just completely ignore upstream's /debian and overwrite it with our own (unless they want to maintain it in Ubuntu) | 11:28 |
BlackZ | tumbleweed: this is what I'm doing | 11:28 |
tumbleweed | then drop the Vcs-Bzr entry beacues it won't be accurate | 11:29 |
BlackZ | tumbleweed: I was just about to do that ;) | 11:30 |
tumbleweed | right. and if upstream doesn't produce tarballs, we should still have get-orig-source | 11:31 |
BlackZ | tumbleweed: I will check, for now I'd upload it on REVU so anyone can check it | 11:31 |
BlackZ | tumbleweed: thanks for the hint, dropped :) | 11:34 |
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lfaraone | geser: well, they work IIRC, so there's no real reason to remove them, I guess. | 14:05 |
geser | lfaraone: "Package sugar-calculate-activity version 30-5 has an unmet dep:", "Depends: python-sugar-0.84 | python-sugar-0.86" and sugar-base-0.84 got deleted with "sugar .84 removing in favour of .88" and the same for sugar-base-0.86 | 14:29 |
lfaraone | geser: all of those activities should be forward-compatible, so file a bug and we'll correct the deps. | 14:33 |
geser | lfaraone: done, I've files some unmetdeps bugs on sugar packages and made sure that the sugarteam is subscribed to them (two of those packages have also a removal request filed, so please decide what to do with them) | 14:59 |
lfaraone | geser: awesome, thanks. | 15:00 |
dupondje | BlackZ: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tulip/+bug/608628 => updated debdiff :) | 15:14 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 608628 in tulip (Ubuntu) "Please merge tulip 3.1.2-2.3 (universe) from debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 15:14 |
cosme | dupondje, in your last debdiff | 15:16 |
cosme | Change libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev to libgl1-mesa-dev in Build-Depends, this fix FTBFS (LP:#553638) | 15:16 |
cosme | should be duanedesign, Change libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev to libgl1-mesa-dev in Build-Depends, this fix FTBFS (LP: #553638) | 15:16 |
dupondje | err cosme what wrong exactly ? | 15:20 |
cosme | (LP:#553638) -> (LP: #553638) | 15:21 |
dupondje | oh, it was a copy/paste. i'll change | 15:22 |
lfaraone | geser: just fyi re bug 608766, IIRC the new pippy uploaded yesterday is uninstallable in Maverick (as well as unstable) | 15:23 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 608766 in Bazaar Subversion Plugin "iter_changes on caching logwalker supports only one prefix" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608766 | 15:23 |
* lfaraone is currently setting up a stable VM to see if that's the case. | 15:23 | |
dupondje | cosme: new debdiff uploaded :) | 15:24 |
geser | hmm, why did ubottu return a wrong subject for that bug? | 15:25 |
lfaraone | bug git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/sugar-jigsawpuzzle-activity.git | 15:26 |
geser | lfaraone: so better not sync it? the current version in the archive has a versioned build-dependency on a virtual package | 15:26 |
lfaraone | * bug 608766 | 15:26 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 608766 in sugar-pippy-activity (Ubuntu) "Sync sugar-pippy-activity 36~dfsg-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608766 | 15:26 |
lfaraone | ah, now it gets it right. odd. | 15:26 |
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lfaraone | geser: well, python-box2d (the non-existant package it depends on) is packaged and ready for sponsoring in Debian, but it's not yet there yet. | 15:27 |
lfaraone | geser: once the package is in and synced over, we should be good. | 15:27 |
MTecknology | dholbach: I nominate persia! | 16:26 |
LucidFox | dholbach, nigelb> Sent my interview answers | 16:30 |
nigelb | dholbach: what's the process that we have to do? | 16:35 |
tuxracer_ | dholbach: thank you for the very nice introduction on the developer week | 16:37 |
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dholbach | MTecknology: for what? | 16:43 |
dholbach | nigelb: ask questions, blog, add to wiki.ubuntu.com/Interviews :) | 16:43 |
dholbach | LucidFox: super, I'll have a look tomorrow | 16:43 |
dholbach | tuxracer_: anytime :) | 16:43 |
MTecknology | dholbach: the blog | 16:45 |
dholbach | MTecknology: sure, but I was planing to hand off the interviews to LucidFox and nigelb | 16:45 |
MTecknology | dholbach: or that - Just wanted to mention it :) | 16:46 |
shadeslayer | hmm.. any one who can sync choqok ? | 17:06 |
shadeslayer | bug 608378 | 17:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 608378 in choqok (Ubuntu) "Sync choqok 0.9.81-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608378 | 17:08 |
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Steve132 | I'm rebuilding the package gcc-mingw32 | 17:24 |
Steve132 | from package source | 17:24 |
Steve132 | and I noticed that although it builds 32-bit g++ | 17:24 |
Steve132 | it is configured to not build 64-bit targeted g++ | 17:25 |
Steve132 | but it does build amd64-mingw32-gcc and all the binutils and the cstdlib for the 32-bit hosted 64-bit targeted cross | 17:25 |
Steve132 | so, I figured "This is easy..." and I added --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran | 17:26 |
Steve132 | in the debian/rules file | 17:26 |
Steve132 | and rebuilt and reinstalled the package. Everything went fine, but a simple "Hello World" example could not find #include<iostream>...which leads me to believe that somehow libstdc++ didn't get built or installed | 17:27 |
Steve132 | Anyone got any hints? | 17:27 |
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nigelb | Just so that you all know, Rhonda is taking a class in #ubuntu-classroom now about working with debian BTS :) | 19:03 |
TheMuso | /quit | 20:54 |
shadeslayer | TheMuso: still here :P | 21:09 |
TheMuso | shadeslayer: Yeah I am connecting to IRC via a bip proxy. I meant to type /quit to exit from my irssi client. | 21:36 |
shadeslayer | TheMuso: :D | 21:36 |
micahg | anyone have time to sponsor a quick no source change rebuild to lucid-proposed (bug 608940) | 23:10 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 608940 in gjs (Ubuntu) "No change rebuild for xulrunner-1.9.2.7 update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608940 | 23:10 |
BlackZ | micahg: done | 23:28 |
micahg | BlackZ: thanks :) | 23:28 |
micahg | BlackZ: so MOTU let's you accept bugs for a series? | 23:31 |
micahg | *lets | 23:31 |
BlackZ | micahg: just for packages in universe and multiverse | 23:31 |
* micahg might have to reconsider going for MOTU :) | 23:32 |
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