jdstrandchrisccoulson: hey. fyi apturl/jaunty doesn't work, but the good news is that neither does the one in -updates, so it is not a regression10:20
jdstrandchrisccoulson: interestingly, the one in jaunty release does work10:20
jdstrandchrisccoulson: this is not a blocker. fyi only10:20
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, ok, no problem10:24
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - the new langpack-gnome-en-base package hasn't built yet (launchpad has said it will start in 17 minutes since yesterday), so i tried deleting it from the PPA and copying the binaries from the langpack PPA (which i should have done yesterday), but it won't let me copy it now :/10:26
jdstrandchrisccoulson: which release is this for?10:53
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, jaunty and karmic. we need language-pack-gnome-en-base for both releases10:54
jdstrandjdstrand: and neither built?10:54
jdstrandchrisccoulson: the fix is in 1:9.04+20100531  and 1:9.10+20100604 ?10:55
jdstrandactually, look slike karmic is .110:56
jdstrandoh both, nm10:56
jdstrandI see them10:56
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, yeah, both are .110:56
jdstrandchrisccoulson: can you up the version and reupload?10:58
jdstrandchrisccoulson: (ie, make them .2)10:58
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, yeah, can do10:58
jdstrandchrisccoulson: thanks10:58
* jdstrand worries this is going to delay the publication10:59
jdstrandchrisccoulson: can you let me know as soon as it is uploaded? I will get kees to make sure it is scored super high10:59
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, they're uploaded now11:06
jdstrandchrisccoulson: ack11:06
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, i'm stuck with kazehakase - it build fine locally ;)11:08
jdstrandchrisccoulson: bummer11:21
jdstrandchrisccoulson: they are both building now11:21
jdstrandchrisccoulson: they only take like 2 minutes, so should be ready soon11:21
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I am almost done with testing, so will publish after you test the lang packs11:21
chrisccoulsoncool, thanks11:21
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I have a note on venkman/karmic, but there is a package in the ppa that is built. is venkman/karmic ok or should I avoid it?11:43
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - yeah, we shouldn't copy venkman11:44
jdstrandchrisccoulson: it seems like jaunty's works. is it ok if I delete the karmic one? (it will make my publication slightly easier11:45
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, yeah, you can delete the karmic one11:45
jdstrandcool thanks11:45
chrisccoulsonthe new langpack doesn't install btw (it conflicts with the version of language-pack-gnome-en)11:45
jdstrandchrisccoulson: meh-- can you do the appropriate upload for that and ping me? I can get kees to rescore again11:46
jdstrandchrisccoulson: fyi-- a kernel is about to get uploaded12:03
jdstrandchrisccoulson: it would be nice to get in front of that if possible12:03
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, i've asked Arne to recreate them with the updated versioning, else I have to do some hacks to the packaging12:04
jdstrandchrisccoulson: k. is he working on it or is this an after lunch thing?12:04
jdstrandchrisccoulson: the kernel guys were in our room talking about it, which is why I know about it12:05
jdstrandchrisccoulson: it looks like there are 2 i386 builders available atm, so it may not be a problem, but I don't won't to get stuck since it will talk me several hours before it is all done12:06
jdstrandchrisccoulson: actually, it is already uploaded, so it isn't a factor anymore12:07
jdstrandchrisccoulson: sorry for the noise12:07
jdstrandchrisccoulson: and by 'it' I mean th ekernel12:07
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, ok, thanks. i'll ask Arne in a minute if he's working on it, he's talking to pitti right now12:12
gnomefreakany reason why firefox does not have a depend on xul? maybe a nother package calls for it. but 4.0 has a dep on xul212:29
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I'm slightly confused. I see langpacks for ast building in the ppa-- but I thought en was what was busted13:02
jdstrandchrisccoulson: (forgive my langpack ignorance)13:02
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, ah, yes. i realised this morning that the ast langpacks hadn't been uploaded for jaunty and karmic. they were exported separately from all the others, and i noticed it when going through my e-mail history this morning13:08
jdstrandchrisccoulson: cool, thanks. I'll add them to the list then13:09
jdstrandchrisccoulson: fyi, I am done with testing and it looks good. the en langpack is the only thing left13:10
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - excellent, i'll ask Arne about that when he gets back from lunch13:10
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, are you going to release-note the kazehakase issue?13:10
chrisccoulson(although there's probably nobody who cares about that)13:11
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I can sure. is there a bug for it?13:11
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, i've not opened one yet13:11
jdstrandchrisccoulson: ok. np13:11
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - bug 60870513:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 608705 in kazehakase (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 1 other project) "kazehakase breaks with xulrunner-1.9.2 installed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60870513:13
jdstrandchrisccoulson: thanks13:23
gnomefreakdont recall exactly but apparmor.d shows 3 processes. firefox firefox-3.7 firefox-4.013:26
gnomefreakthat is on boot13:26
chrisccoulsongnomefreak, that's normal13:33
chrisccoulsonthe firefox-3.7 profile should be cleaned on upgrade though13:33
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: ok but why 3.7 since it is not installed13:33
gnomefreakah ok13:33
chrisccoulsongnomefreak, you had 3.7 installed previously ;)13:33
gnomefreakgood point13:34
gnomefreakif i ever get plymouth working maybe it will hide it all13:34
chrisccoulsongood luck!13:36
chrisccoulsonplymouth flashes up for about a nanosecond here afteer displaying loads of crap on the screen13:36
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: it displys bunch of crap and i get the 5dots but that is it13:37
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: bug on it bug 59803513:42
ubot2Launchpad bug 598035 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Plymouth does not work (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59803513:42
* gnomefreak doest have screensavers, gnome splash screen as well13:42
jdstrandchrisccoulson: what did Arne say about the langpack?14:07
jdstrandit's getting tight for me making dinner...14:07
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, i just asked him again, he's going to do that in a minute or so14:10
jdstrandchrisccoulson: thank you14:14
fta2seems debian now has chromium -dev in experimental.. not sure what they want here, no more -stable??14:20
micahgchrisccoulson: can you add a lucid task in bug 588254?14:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 588254 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "gnome-language-selector should no longer install enigmail-locale-XX packages (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 96)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58825414:40
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i can't do that for language-selector14:41
chrisccoulsoni've been talking to pitti though14:41
chrisccoulsonhe suggested adding some conflicts/replaces/provides as a SRU to enigmail14:42
chrisccoulsonso that it will conflict/replace/provide all of the enigmail-locales-xx packages14:42
micahgchrisccoulson: ok, I was going to do that anyways, is that the only thing we need to do then?14:42
chrisccoulsonand that will take care of language-selector and upgrades at the same time14:42
micahgoh to enigmail?14:42
micahgI don't like that14:42
chrisccoulsonyeah, to enigmail14:42
micahgunless we just add transitional packages to it14:43
chrisccoulsonthat's what the provides are for14:43
micahgwell, that's a long list of Conflicts/Replaces/Provides14:43
micahgok, if that's what he thinks is best, I'll prepare it this weekend14:44
micahgchrisccoulson: should I do the same for Maverick then?14:44
chrisccoulsonno need for maverick, as enigmail-locales has gone from the archive now14:44
micahgok, I'll change the languages selector task in bug 572018 to an enigmail task then?14:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 572018 in debian (and 6 other projects) "enigmail-locales is no longer needed in Lucid+ (affects: 13) (dups: 2) (heat: 86)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57201814:45
jdstrandchrisccoulson: so, can you copy it to the mozilla security ppa and then I can get kees to rescore it?14:57
micahgif I do seamonkey now, can it get uploaded to u-m-s today?14:58
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - done14:59
chrisccoulsonmicahg - which version of seamonkey?14:59
micahgchrisccoulson: 2.0.6, seems we forgot to test build in PPA anyways :(14:59
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, i uploaded it to the PPA and then we removed it again to do the 2.0.5 publication15:01
chrisccoulsonit's already in bzr, i just need to reupload it15:01
micahgchrisccoulson: k, so if I do the MFSAs now, do you have time to push today?15:01
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, can do15:01
micahgchrisccoulson: no, we need the advisories first15:01
chrisccoulsonmicahg - it's in maverick already btw15:02
micahgchrisccoulson: I know, that's the only good part :)15:02
micahgchrisccoulson: so, do we just skip the advisories in .head then since it's in maverick?15:02
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, we don't provide security updates in maverick yet15:02
micahgchrisccoulson: should worry about the newsblog fix for 2.0.6 or just upload as is?15:20
chrisccoulsonmicahg - we'll fix that in 2.0.715:21
chrisccoulsonit's not a big deal really and it should probably have SRU approval15:22
micahgchrisccoulson: k, then I'm push 2.0.6/lucid up for you :)15:22
chrisccoulsonmicahg - ok, uploaded now15:25
micahgthanks chrisccoulson :)15:25
micahgchrisccoulson: BTW, I saw some discussion for FF4 on Linux and one of the major complaints is lack of new UI on Linux, so I would guess this to happen in one of the next betas15:28
jdstrandchrisccoulson: can you verify the langpacks?15:31
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, yeah, will just start kvm now15:31
jdstrandchrisccoulson: thanks15:31
TZ_noobhi all15:31
TZ_noobI am running 9.04...15:31
TZ_noobHow do I upgrade to Thunderbird 3?15:31
TZ_noobI already modified my sources list15:32
TZ_noobi followed the instructions on ubuntugeek.com15:34
TZ_noobthis command >     sudo apt-get install thunderbird-3.1 thunderbird-3.1-gnome-support15:35
micahgTZ_noob: no, that's not ready yet15:35
TZ_noobproduces this result > Reading package lists... Done15:35
TZ_noobBuilding dependency tree15:35
TZ_noobReading state information... Done15:35
TZ_noobE: Couldn't find package thunderbird-3.115:35
TZ_noobwhat is not yet ready?15:35
micahgTZ_noob: thunderbird 3.115:36
TZ_noobso where does ubuntugeek get THEIR information?15:36
micahgTZ_noob: I'll push thunderbird 3.0.6 to the thunderbird-stable PPA, but if nothing's too urgent, I'd suggest waiting for thunderbird 3.1 which we'll push in the coming months15:36
micahgTZ_noob: I have no idea15:36
jdstrandchrisccoulson: I can tell you that they install fine now15:37
TZ_noobmicahg: ok, thanks15:37
micahgTZ_noob: here's the TB3 stable PPA: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable15:37
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, cool. i've not got that far yet as KVM is running like it's been filled with glue ;)15:37
TZ_noobmicahg: how do i install from the PPA? er, first, how do i add PPA on my system?15:37
micahgTZ_noob: instructions on the PPA page :)15:38
chrisccoulsonTZ_noob, upgrade to lucid15:38
TZ_noobwill need a CD/DVD for that...15:38
TZ_noobmy  bandwidth isnt so good... am in Tanzania (TZ)15:38
TZ_noobwe have the worst of the worst, in terms of bandwidth15:39
chrisccoulsonyou should get a CD soon then, as jaunty is pretty close to going EOL ;)15:39
chrisccoulsonsupport ends in october15:39
TZ_noobheck, i cant even run any BitTorrents on my link15:39
TZ_noobi will see what to do about it, perhaps i will download the ISO for Lucid15:39
micahgchrisccoulson: is thunderbird getting published to Lucid today?15:42
chrisccoulsonmicahg - hopefully (jdstrand will know though)15:43
* micahg just wants to know whether or not to copy to stable PPA15:43
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, langpack is fine for karmic15:43
jdstrandmicahg: no15:44
jdstrandI've not tested it due to ff15:44
micahgjdstrand: no, I shouldn't copy or no, it's not going to be published?15:44
jdstrandI am not publishing tbird today15:45
micahgok, I'll copy to tb-stable then15:45
jdstrand(well, excpet the jaunty one, which is needed for the new nss in jaunty)15:45
micahgthanks jdstrand15:45
jdstrandmicahg: np15:45
TZ_noobwow, the instructions on the launchpad web are so accurate15:45
TZ_noobi am now actually installing the stable thunderbird 3.0.5 from the PPA15:46
TZ_noobactually it's 3.0.715:46
chrisccoulsoni think KVM is going slow just to annoy me15:46
TZ_noobwhat's KVM?15:47
micahgTZ_noob: 3.0.6 was just released and I just uploaded it, it shoudl build in a couple hours15:47
TZ_noobmicahg: what does this mean? Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main thunderbird 3.0.7~hg20100715r4889+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~jaunty [11.8MB]15:47
micahgTZ_noob: that's the daily PPA :)15:48
TZ_nooband? how is it different from 3.0.6?15:48
TZ_noobor IS IT the 3.0.6?15:48
micahgTZ_noob: you get updates every day, not guaranteed to be stable15:48
micahgTZ_noob: but that branch should be fairly stable15:49
TZ_noobit was downloaded automatically15:49
TZ_noobi hope so15:49
micahgTZ_noob: that means you had the PPA installed already15:49
chrisccoulsonjdstrand - jaunty is ok too15:49
TZ_noobso I am doing something right15:49
TZ_noobmicahg: are you officially WITH mozilla?15:49
* micahg also has to update firefox-stable15:49
micahgTZ_noob: no, I'm one of the Mozilla maintainers in Ubuntu15:50
TZ_noobmicahg: since i went to firefox years back i have HATED IE...15:50
TZ_noobIE was the worst software ever designed!15:50
TZ_noobit still is!15:50
TZ_nooband so is MS Windows!15:50
jdstrandchrisccoulson: \o/15:50
TZ_noobthey are trying so hard to look like Ubuntu and/or Mac OS X15:51
TZ_noobmicahg: what am i to expect after upgrading to thunderbird 3? will i have my  emails and addresses intact, when i launch TB 3?15:52
micahgTZ_noob: hopefully, but you should back up your .mozilla-thunderbird folder15:52
micahgthat is ~/.mozilla-thunderbird15:52
TZ_noobwell, migration assistant is running, i didnt back up, but messages have not been deleted, they are being indexed15:54
TZ_noobMozilla rules!15:54
micahgTZ_noob: I did my best to make sure that works :)15:54
TZ_noobit looks and feels exactly like Firefox! with TABS!15:55
TZ_noobcode named Shredder? why the name?15:55
micahgTZ_noob: because you're running the daily15:56
TZ_noobdaily what?15:57
micahgTZ_noob: daily build15:57
TZ_noobsomehow, bandwidth seems to be good today... :-)15:57
TZ_noobmicahg: please decipher what this means...15:58
TZ_noobWelcome to Shredder!15:58
TZ_noobYou've just started using a new nightly version of Thunderbird, code-named "Shredder", that has a different version number from what you previously have been using. It could be that you've just downloaded, or compiled a build, or that the version number has just been updated for a pending release.15:58
micahgTZ_noob: exactly what it says, it's not a release version, but a nightly/daily build15:58
TZ_noobso,  how long am i expected to use this version?15:59
TZ_noobi love the name... lol15:59
micahgTZ_noob: well, from the daily PPA, you will always be using a daily15:59
micahgif you switch to the stable PPA, you'll get thunderbird15:59
TZ_noobhow do i switch to the stable PPA?16:00
micahgTZ_noob: remove/comment out the daily PPA and add the one for the thunderbird-stable PPA https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable16:00
TZ_noobin the software sources list?16:01
micahgTZ_noob: yes16:02
micahgTZ_noob: you can just uncheck it16:02
TZ_noobi added the lines manually with gedit16:02
micahgTZ_noob: k, well, you can just add a # in front of the line then to comment out16:03
TZ_noobi see your point16:03
TZ_noobi copied and pasted what you just wrote, but it wont work...16:04
TZ_noobisnt there a command that precedes the HTTPS?16:04
micahgoh, wow, I didn't realize karmic was getting published today \o/16:05
ftamicahg, ?16:05
micahgfta: Firefox 3.6 to karmic16:06
TZ_noobmicahg: please go to http://pastebin.com/uzABYjS316:17
TZ_noobi tried to upgrade firefox16:17
micahgTZ_noob: oh, right, I was supposed to upload special transitional packages for that16:18
TZ_noobthat's why it wont work?16:21
micahgyep, give me a minute16:21
TZ_noobok, i guess i will do this when i get back16:23
TZ_noobhave to run now16:23
TZ_noobbye all and thanks16:23
micahgis jaunty firefox getting published today as well?16:24
micahgjdstrand: ^^16:25
jdstrandmicahg: yes. I am in the rocess now and will be for the next few hours16:25
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, were you planning to do hardy and lucid today too?16:35
jdstrandchrisccoulson: everything is going out. I am in the middle of it now16:37
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, awesome, thanks16:37
chrisccoulsoni think i owe you a beer!16:37
jdstrandchrisccoulson: ff, xul, rdepends, lanpacks, etc for hardy-lucid16:37
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chrisccoulsonhey jdstrand, how's it going?17:55
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