| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: hey. fyi apturl/jaunty doesn't work, but the good news is that neither does the one in -updates, so it is not a regression | 10:20 |
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| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: interestingly, the one in jaunty release does work | 10:20 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: this is not a blocker. fyi only | 10:20 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, ok, no problem | 10:24 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - the new langpack-gnome-en-base package hasn't built yet (launchpad has said it will start in 17 minutes since yesterday), so i tried deleting it from the PPA and copying the binaries from the langpack PPA (which i should have done yesterday), but it won't let me copy it now :/ | 10:26 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: which release is this for? | 10:53 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, jaunty and karmic. we need language-pack-gnome-en-base for both releases | 10:54 |
| jdstrand | jdstrand: and neither built? | 10:54 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: the fix is in 1:9.04+20100531 and 1:9.10+20100604 ? | 10:55 |
| jdstrand | actually, look slike karmic is .1 | 10:56 |
| jdstrand | oh both, nm | 10:56 |
| jdstrand | I see them | 10:56 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, both are .1 | 10:56 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: can you up the version and reupload? | 10:58 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: (ie, make them .2) | 10:58 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, can do | 10:58 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: thanks | 10:58 |
| * jdstrand worries this is going to delay the publication | 10:59 | |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: can you let me know as soon as it is uploaded? I will get kees to make sure it is scored super high | 10:59 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, they're uploaded now | 11:06 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: ack | 11:06 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, i'm stuck with kazehakase - it build fine locally ;) | 11:08 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: bummer | 11:21 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: they are both building now | 11:21 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: they only take like 2 minutes, so should be ready soon | 11:21 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I am almost done with testing, so will publish after you test the lang packs | 11:21 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, thanks | 11:21 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I have a note on venkman/karmic, but there is a package in the ppa that is built. is venkman/karmic ok or should I avoid it? | 11:43 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - yeah, we shouldn't copy venkman | 11:44 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: it seems like jaunty's works. is it ok if I delete the karmic one? (it will make my publication slightly easier | 11:45 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, you can delete the karmic one | 11:45 |
| jdstrand | cool thanks | 11:45 |
| chrisccoulson | the new langpack doesn't install btw (it conflicts with the version of language-pack-gnome-en) | 11:45 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: meh-- can you do the appropriate upload for that and ping me? I can get kees to rescore again | 11:46 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: fyi-- a kernel is about to get uploaded | 12:03 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: it would be nice to get in front of that if possible | 12:03 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, i've asked Arne to recreate them with the updated versioning, else I have to do some hacks to the packaging | 12:04 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: k. is he working on it or is this an after lunch thing? | 12:04 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: the kernel guys were in our room talking about it, which is why I know about it | 12:05 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: it looks like there are 2 i386 builders available atm, so it may not be a problem, but I don't won't to get stuck since it will talk me several hours before it is all done | 12:06 |
| jdstrand | s/won't/want/ | 12:06 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: actually, it is already uploaded, so it isn't a factor anymore | 12:07 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: sorry for the noise | 12:07 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: and by 'it' I mean th ekernel | 12:07 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, ok, thanks. i'll ask Arne in a minute if he's working on it, he's talking to pitti right now | 12:12 |
| gnomefreak | any reason why firefox does not have a depend on xul? maybe a nother package calls for it. but 4.0 has a dep on xul2 | 12:29 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I'm slightly confused. I see langpacks for ast building in the ppa-- but I thought en was what was busted | 13:02 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: (forgive my langpack ignorance) | 13:02 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, ah, yes. i realised this morning that the ast langpacks hadn't been uploaded for jaunty and karmic. they were exported separately from all the others, and i noticed it when going through my e-mail history this morning | 13:08 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: cool, thanks. I'll add them to the list then | 13:09 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: fyi, I am done with testing and it looks good. the en langpack is the only thing left | 13:10 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - excellent, i'll ask Arne about that when he gets back from lunch | 13:10 |
| jdstrand | thanks | 13:10 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, are you going to release-note the kazehakase issue? | 13:10 |
| chrisccoulson | (although there's probably nobody who cares about that) | 13:11 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I can sure. is there a bug for it? | 13:11 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, i've not opened one yet | 13:11 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: ok. np | 13:11 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - bug 608705 | 13:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 608705 in kazehakase (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 1 other project) "kazehakase breaks with xulrunner-1.9.2 installed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608705 | 13:13 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: thanks | 13:23 |
| gnomefreak | dont recall exactly but apparmor.d shows 3 processes. firefox firefox-3.7 firefox-4.0 | 13:26 |
| gnomefreak | that is on boot | 13:26 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, that's normal | 13:33 |
| chrisccoulson | the firefox-3.7 profile should be cleaned on upgrade though | 13:33 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: ok but why 3.7 since it is not installed | 13:33 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok | 13:33 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, you had 3.7 installed previously ;) | 13:33 |
| gnomefreak | good point | 13:34 |
| gnomefreak | if i ever get plymouth working maybe it will hide it all | 13:34 |
| chrisccoulson | good luck! | 13:36 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 13:36 |
| chrisccoulson | plymouth flashes up for about a nanosecond here afteer displaying loads of crap on the screen | 13:36 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: it displys bunch of crap and i get the 5dots but that is it | 13:37 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: bug on it bug 598035 | 13:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 598035 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Plymouth does not work (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598035 | 13:42 |
| * gnomefreak doest have screensavers, gnome splash screen as well | 13:42 | |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: what did Arne say about the langpack? | 14:07 |
| jdstrand | it's getting tight for me making dinner... | 14:07 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, i just asked him again, he's going to do that in a minute or so | 14:10 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: thank you | 14:14 |
| fta2 | seems debian now has chromium -dev in experimental.. not sure what they want here, no more -stable?? | 14:20 |
| fta2 | http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/chromium-browser.html | 14:20 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: can you add a lucid task in bug 588254? | 14:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 588254 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "gnome-language-selector should no longer install enigmail-locale-XX packages (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 96)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588254 | 14:40 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i can't do that for language-selector | 14:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i've been talking to pitti though | 14:41 |
| chrisccoulson | he suggested adding some conflicts/replaces/provides as a SRU to enigmail | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | so that it will conflict/replace/provide all of the enigmail-locales-xx packages | 14:42 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ok, I was going to do that anyways, is that the only thing we need to do then? | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | and that will take care of language-selector and upgrades at the same time | 14:42 |
| micahg | oh to enigmail? | 14:42 |
| micahg | I don't like that | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, to enigmail | 14:42 |
| micahg | unless we just add transitional packages to it | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | that's what the provides are for | 14:43 |
| micahg | well, that's a long list of Conflicts/Replaces/Provides | 14:43 |
| micahg | ok, if that's what he thinks is best, I'll prepare it this weekend | 14:44 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 14:44 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: should I do the same for Maverick then? | 14:44 |
| chrisccoulson | no need for maverick, as enigmail-locales has gone from the archive now | 14:44 |
| micahg | ok, I'll change the languages selector task in bug 572018 to an enigmail task then? | 14:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 572018 in debian (and 6 other projects) "enigmail-locales is no longer needed in Lucid+ (affects: 13) (dups: 2) (heat: 86)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572018 | 14:45 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: so, can you copy it to the mozilla security ppa and then I can get kees to rescore it? | 14:57 |
| micahg | if I do seamonkey now, can it get uploaded to u-m-s today? | 14:58 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - done | 14:59 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - which version of seamonkey? | 14:59 |
| jdstrand | \o/ | 14:59 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: 2.0.6, seems we forgot to test build in PPA anyways :( | 14:59 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, i uploaded it to the PPA and then we removed it again to do the 2.0.5 publication | 15:01 |
| chrisccoulson | it's already in bzr, i just need to reupload it | 15:01 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, so if I do the MFSAs now, do you have time to push today? | 15:01 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, can do | 15:01 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: no, we need the advisories first | 15:01 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - it's in maverick already btw | 15:02 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I know, that's the only good part :) | 15:02 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: so, do we just skip the advisories in .head then since it's in maverick? | 15:02 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, we don't provide security updates in maverick yet | 15:02 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: should worry about the newsblog fix for 2.0.6 or just upload as is? | 15:20 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - we'll fix that in 2.0.7 | 15:21 |
| chrisccoulson | it's not a big deal really and it should probably have SRU approval | 15:22 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, then I'm push 2.0.6/lucid up for you :) | 15:22 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 15:22 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - ok, uploaded now | 15:25 |
| micahg | thanks chrisccoulson :) | 15:25 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, I saw some discussion for FF4 on Linux and one of the major complaints is lack of new UI on Linux, so I would guess this to happen in one of the next betas | 15:28 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: can you verify the langpacks? | 15:31 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, will just start kvm now | 15:31 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: thanks | 15:31 |
| TZ_noob | hi all | 15:31 |
| TZ_noob | I am running 9.04... | 15:31 |
| TZ_noob | How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 3? | 15:31 |
| TZ_noob | I already modified my sources list | 15:32 |
| TZ_noob | i followed the instructions on ubuntugeek.com | 15:34 |
| TZ_noob | this command > sudo apt-get install thunderbird-3.1 thunderbird-3.1-gnome-support | 15:35 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: no, that's not ready yet | 15:35 |
| TZ_noob | produces this result > Reading package lists... Done | 15:35 |
| TZ_noob | Building dependency tree | 15:35 |
| TZ_noob | Reading state information... Done | 15:35 |
| TZ_noob | E: Couldn't find package thunderbird-3.1 | 15:35 |
| TZ_noob | what is not yet ready? | 15:35 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: thunderbird 3.1 | 15:36 |
| TZ_noob | so where does ubuntugeek get THEIR information? | 15:36 |
| TZ_noob | lol | 15:36 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: I'll push thunderbird 3.0.6 to the thunderbird-stable PPA, but if nothing's too urgent, I'd suggest waiting for thunderbird 3.1 which we'll push in the coming months | 15:36 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: I have no idea | 15:36 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I can tell you that they install fine now | 15:37 |
| TZ_noob | micahg: ok, thanks | 15:37 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: here's the TB3 stable PPA: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable | 15:37 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, cool. i've not got that far yet as KVM is running like it's been filled with glue ;) | 15:37 |
| TZ_noob | micahg: how do i install from the PPA? er, first, how do i add PPA on my system? | 15:37 |
| jdstrand | heh | 15:37 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: instructions on the PPA page :) | 15:38 |
| TZ_noob | lol | 15:38 |
| chrisccoulson | TZ_noob, upgrade to lucid | 15:38 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 15:38 |
| TZ_noob | will need a CD/DVD for that... | 15:38 |
| chrisccoulson | why? | 15:38 |
| TZ_noob | my bandwidth isnt so good... am in Tanzania (TZ) | 15:38 |
| TZ_noob | we have the worst of the worst, in terms of bandwidth | 15:39 |
| chrisccoulson | you should get a CD soon then, as jaunty is pretty close to going EOL ;) | 15:39 |
| chrisccoulson | support ends in october | 15:39 |
| TZ_noob | heck, i cant even run any BitTorrents on my link | 15:39 |
| TZ_noob | i will see what to do about it, perhaps i will download the ISO for Lucid | 15:39 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: is thunderbird getting published to Lucid today? | 15:42 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - hopefully (jdstrand will know though) | 15:43 |
| * micahg just wants to know whether or not to copy to stable PPA | 15:43 | |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, langpack is fine for karmic | 15:43 |
| jdstrand | \o/ | 15:44 |
| jdstrand | micahg: no | 15:44 |
| jdstrand | I've not tested it due to ff | 15:44 |
| micahg | jdstrand: no, I shouldn't copy or no, it's not going to be published? | 15:44 |
| jdstrand | I am not publishing tbird today | 15:45 |
| micahg | ok, I'll copy to tb-stable then | 15:45 |
| jdstrand | (well, excpet the jaunty one, which is needed for the new nss in jaunty) | 15:45 |
| micahg | thanks jdstrand | 15:45 |
| jdstrand | micahg: np | 15:45 |
| TZ_noob | wow, the instructions on the launchpad web are so accurate | 15:45 |
| TZ_noob | i am now actually installing the stable thunderbird 3.0.5 from the PPA | 15:46 |
| TZ_noob | lol | 15:46 |
| TZ_noob | actually it's 3.0.7 | 15:46 |
| chrisccoulson | i think KVM is going slow just to annoy me | 15:46 |
| TZ_noob | what's KVM? | 15:47 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: 3.0.6 was just released and I just uploaded it, it shoudl build in a couple hours | 15:47 |
| TZ_noob | micahg: what does this mean? Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main thunderbird 3.0.7~hg20100715r4889+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~jaunty [11.8MB] | 15:47 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: that's the daily PPA :) | 15:48 |
| TZ_noob | and? how is it different from 3.0.6? | 15:48 |
| TZ_noob | or IS IT the 3.0.6? | 15:48 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: you get updates every day, not guaranteed to be stable | 15:48 |
| TZ_noob | lol | 15:48 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: but that branch should be fairly stable | 15:49 |
| TZ_noob | it was downloaded automatically | 15:49 |
| TZ_noob | i hope so | 15:49 |
| TZ_noob | :-) | 15:49 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: that means you had the PPA installed already | 15:49 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand - jaunty is ok too | 15:49 |
| TZ_noob | ah.. | 15:49 |
| TZ_noob | so I am doing something right | 15:49 |
| TZ_noob | micahg: are you officially WITH mozilla? | 15:49 |
| * micahg also has to update firefox-stable | 15:49 | |
| micahg | TZ_noob: no, I'm one of the Mozilla maintainers in Ubuntu | 15:50 |
| TZ_noob | micahg: since i went to firefox years back i have HATED IE... | 15:50 |
| TZ_noob | IE was the worst software ever designed! | 15:50 |
| TZ_noob | it still is! | 15:50 |
| TZ_noob | and so is MS Windows! | 15:50 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: \o/ | 15:50 |
| TZ_noob | they are trying so hard to look like Ubuntu and/or Mac OS X | 15:51 |
| TZ_noob | micahg: what am i to expect after upgrading to thunderbird 3? will i have my emails and addresses intact, when i launch TB 3? | 15:52 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: hopefully, but you should back up your .mozilla-thunderbird folder | 15:52 |
| micahg | that is ~/.mozilla-thunderbird | 15:52 |
| TZ_noob | well, migration assistant is running, i didnt back up, but messages have not been deleted, they are being indexed | 15:54 |
| TZ_noob | Mozilla rules! | 15:54 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: I did my best to make sure that works :) | 15:54 |
| TZ_noob | it looks and feels exactly like Firefox! with TABS! | 15:55 |
| TZ_noob | code named Shredder? why the name? | 15:55 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: because you're running the daily | 15:56 |
| TZ_noob | daily what? | 15:57 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: daily build | 15:57 |
| TZ_noob | somehow, bandwidth seems to be good today... :-) | 15:57 |
| TZ_noob | micahg: please decipher what this means... | 15:58 |
| TZ_noob | Welcome to Shredder! | 15:58 |
| TZ_noob | You've just started using a new nightly version of Thunderbird, code-named "Shredder", that has a different version number from what you previously have been using. It could be that you've just downloaded, or compiled a build, or that the version number has just been updated for a pending release. | 15:58 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: exactly what it says, it's not a release version, but a nightly/daily build | 15:58 |
| TZ_noob | so, how long am i expected to use this version? | 15:59 |
| TZ_noob | i love the name... lol | 15:59 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: well, from the daily PPA, you will always be using a daily | 15:59 |
| micahg | if you switch to the stable PPA, you'll get thunderbird | 15:59 |
| TZ_noob | how do i switch to the stable PPA? | 16:00 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: remove/comment out the daily PPA and add the one for the thunderbird-stable PPA https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable | 16:00 |
| TZ_noob | in the software sources list? | 16:01 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: yes | 16:02 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: you can just uncheck it | 16:02 |
| TZ_noob | i added the lines manually with gedit | 16:02 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: k, well, you can just add a # in front of the line then to comment out | 16:03 |
| TZ_noob | i see your point | 16:03 |
| TZ_noob | i copied and pasted what you just wrote, but it wont work... | 16:04 |
| TZ_noob | isnt there a command that precedes the HTTPS? | 16:04 |
| micahg | oh, wow, I didn't realize karmic was getting published today \o/ | 16:05 |
| fta | micahg, ? | 16:05 |
| micahg | fta: Firefox 3.6 to karmic | 16:06 |
| fta | oh | 16:06 |
| TZ_noob | micahg: please go to http://pastebin.com/uzABYjS3 | 16:17 |
| TZ_noob | i tried to upgrade firefox | 16:17 |
| micahg | TZ_noob: oh, right, I was supposed to upload special transitional packages for that | 16:18 |
| TZ_noob | that's why it wont work? | 16:21 |
| micahg | yep, give me a minute | 16:21 |
| TZ_noob | ok, i guess i will do this when i get back | 16:23 |
| TZ_noob | have to run now | 16:23 |
| TZ_noob | bye all and thanks | 16:23 |
| micahg | is jaunty firefox getting published today as well? | 16:24 |
| micahg | jdstrand: ^^ | 16:25 |
| jdstrand | micahg: yes. I am in the rocess now and will be for the next few hours | 16:25 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, were you planning to do hardy and lucid today too? | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: everything is going out. I am in the middle of it now | 16:37 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, awesome, thanks | 16:37 |
| chrisccoulson | i think i owe you a beer! | 16:37 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: ff, xul, rdepends, lanpacks, etc for hardy-lucid | 16:37 |
| jdstrand | heh | 16:37 |
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| chrisccoulson | hey jdstrand, how's it going? | 17:55 |
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