[10:20] chrisccoulson: hey. fyi apturl/jaunty doesn't work, but the good news is that neither does the one in -updates, so it is not a regression [10:20] chrisccoulson: interestingly, the one in jaunty release does work [10:20] chrisccoulson: this is not a blocker. fyi only [10:24] jdstrand, ok, no problem [10:26] jdstrand - the new langpack-gnome-en-base package hasn't built yet (launchpad has said it will start in 17 minutes since yesterday), so i tried deleting it from the PPA and copying the binaries from the langpack PPA (which i should have done yesterday), but it won't let me copy it now :/ [10:53] chrisccoulson: which release is this for? [10:54] jdstrand, jaunty and karmic. we need language-pack-gnome-en-base for both releases [10:54] jdstrand: and neither built? [10:55] chrisccoulson: the fix is in 1:9.04+20100531 and 1:9.10+20100604 ? [10:56] actually, look slike karmic is .1 [10:56] oh both, nm [10:56] I see them [10:56] jdstrand, yeah, both are .1 [10:58] chrisccoulson: can you up the version and reupload? [10:58] chrisccoulson: (ie, make them .2) [10:58] jdstrand, yeah, can do [10:58] chrisccoulson: thanks [10:59] * jdstrand worries this is going to delay the publication [10:59] chrisccoulson: can you let me know as soon as it is uploaded? I will get kees to make sure it is scored super high [11:06] jdstrand, they're uploaded now [11:06] chrisccoulson: ack [11:08] jdstrand, i'm stuck with kazehakase - it build fine locally ;) [11:21] chrisccoulson: bummer [11:21] chrisccoulson: they are both building now [11:21] chrisccoulson: they only take like 2 minutes, so should be ready soon [11:21] chrisccoulson: I am almost done with testing, so will publish after you test the lang packs [11:21] cool, thanks [11:43] chrisccoulson: I have a note on venkman/karmic, but there is a package in the ppa that is built. is venkman/karmic ok or should I avoid it? [11:44] jdstrand - yeah, we shouldn't copy venkman [11:45] chrisccoulson: it seems like jaunty's works. is it ok if I delete the karmic one? (it will make my publication slightly easier [11:45] jdstrand, yeah, you can delete the karmic one [11:45] cool thanks [11:45] the new langpack doesn't install btw (it conflicts with the version of language-pack-gnome-en) [11:46] chrisccoulson: meh-- can you do the appropriate upload for that and ping me? I can get kees to rescore again [12:03] chrisccoulson: fyi-- a kernel is about to get uploaded [12:03] chrisccoulson: it would be nice to get in front of that if possible [12:04] jdstrand, i've asked Arne to recreate them with the updated versioning, else I have to do some hacks to the packaging [12:04] chrisccoulson: k. is he working on it or is this an after lunch thing? [12:05] chrisccoulson: the kernel guys were in our room talking about it, which is why I know about it [12:06] chrisccoulson: it looks like there are 2 i386 builders available atm, so it may not be a problem, but I don't won't to get stuck since it will talk me several hours before it is all done [12:06] s/won't/want/ [12:07] chrisccoulson: actually, it is already uploaded, so it isn't a factor anymore [12:07] chrisccoulson: sorry for the noise [12:07] chrisccoulson: and by 'it' I mean th ekernel [12:12] jdstrand, ok, thanks. i'll ask Arne in a minute if he's working on it, he's talking to pitti right now [12:29] any reason why firefox does not have a depend on xul? maybe a nother package calls for it. but 4.0 has a dep on xul2 [13:02] chrisccoulson: I'm slightly confused. I see langpacks for ast building in the ppa-- but I thought en was what was busted [13:02] chrisccoulson: (forgive my langpack ignorance) [13:08] jdstrand, ah, yes. i realised this morning that the ast langpacks hadn't been uploaded for jaunty and karmic. they were exported separately from all the others, and i noticed it when going through my e-mail history this morning [13:09] chrisccoulson: cool, thanks. I'll add them to the list then [13:10] chrisccoulson: fyi, I am done with testing and it looks good. the en langpack is the only thing left [13:10] jdstrand - excellent, i'll ask Arne about that when he gets back from lunch [13:10] thanks [13:10] jdstrand, are you going to release-note the kazehakase issue? [13:11] (although there's probably nobody who cares about that) [13:11] chrisccoulson: I can sure. is there a bug for it? [13:11] jdstrand, i've not opened one yet [13:11] chrisccoulson: ok. np [13:13] jdstrand - bug 608705 [13:13] Launchpad bug 608705 in kazehakase (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 1 other project) "kazehakase breaks with xulrunner-1.9.2 installed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608705 [13:23] chrisccoulson: thanks [13:26] dont recall exactly but apparmor.d shows 3 processes. firefox firefox-3.7 firefox-4.0 [13:26] that is on boot [13:33] gnomefreak, that's normal [13:33] the firefox-3.7 profile should be cleaned on upgrade though [13:33] chrisccoulson: ok but why 3.7 since it is not installed [13:33] ah ok [13:33] gnomefreak, you had 3.7 installed previously ;) [13:34] good point [13:34] if i ever get plymouth working maybe it will hide it all [13:36] good luck! [13:36] thanks [13:36] plymouth flashes up for about a nanosecond here afteer displaying loads of crap on the screen [13:37] chrisccoulson: it displys bunch of crap and i get the 5dots but that is it [13:42] chrisccoulson: bug on it bug 598035 [13:42] Launchpad bug 598035 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Plymouth does not work (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598035 [13:42] * gnomefreak doest have screensavers, gnome splash screen as well [14:07] chrisccoulson: what did Arne say about the langpack? [14:07] it's getting tight for me making dinner... [14:10] jdstrand, i just asked him again, he's going to do that in a minute or so [14:14] chrisccoulson: thank you [14:20] seems debian now has chromium -dev in experimental.. not sure what they want here, no more -stable?? [14:20] http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/chromium-browser.html [14:40] chrisccoulson: can you add a lucid task in bug 588254? [14:40] Launchpad bug 588254 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "gnome-language-selector should no longer install enigmail-locale-XX packages (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 96)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588254 [14:41] micahg - i can't do that for language-selector [14:41] i've been talking to pitti though [14:42] he suggested adding some conflicts/replaces/provides as a SRU to enigmail [14:42] so that it will conflict/replace/provide all of the enigmail-locales-xx packages [14:42] chrisccoulson: ok, I was going to do that anyways, is that the only thing we need to do then? [14:42] and that will take care of language-selector and upgrades at the same time [14:42] oh to enigmail? [14:42] I don't like that [14:42] yeah, to enigmail [14:43] unless we just add transitional packages to it [14:43] that's what the provides are for [14:43] well, that's a long list of Conflicts/Replaces/Provides [14:44] ok, if that's what he thinks is best, I'll prepare it this weekend [14:44] thanks [14:44] chrisccoulson: should I do the same for Maverick then? [14:44] no need for maverick, as enigmail-locales has gone from the archive now [14:45] ok, I'll change the languages selector task in bug 572018 to an enigmail task then? [14:45] Launchpad bug 572018 in debian (and 6 other projects) "enigmail-locales is no longer needed in Lucid+ (affects: 13) (dups: 2) (heat: 86)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/572018 [14:57] chrisccoulson: so, can you copy it to the mozilla security ppa and then I can get kees to rescore it? [14:58] if I do seamonkey now, can it get uploaded to u-m-s today? [14:59] jdstrand - done [14:59] micahg - which version of seamonkey? [14:59] \o/ [14:59] chrisccoulson: 2.0.6, seems we forgot to test build in PPA anyways :( [15:01] micahg - yeah, i uploaded it to the PPA and then we removed it again to do the 2.0.5 publication [15:01] it's already in bzr, i just need to reupload it [15:01] chrisccoulson: k, so if I do the MFSAs now, do you have time to push today? [15:01] micahg - yeah, can do [15:01] chrisccoulson: no, we need the advisories first [15:02] micahg - it's in maverick already btw [15:02] chrisccoulson: I know, that's the only good part :) [15:02] chrisccoulson: so, do we just skip the advisories in .head then since it's in maverick? [15:02] micahg - yeah, we don't provide security updates in maverick yet [15:20] chrisccoulson: should worry about the newsblog fix for 2.0.6 or just upload as is? [15:21] micahg - we'll fix that in 2.0.7 [15:22] it's not a big deal really and it should probably have SRU approval [15:22] chrisccoulson: k, then I'm push 2.0.6/lucid up for you :) [15:22] thanks [15:25] micahg - ok, uploaded now [15:25] thanks chrisccoulson :) [15:28] chrisccoulson: BTW, I saw some discussion for FF4 on Linux and one of the major complaints is lack of new UI on Linux, so I would guess this to happen in one of the next betas [15:31] chrisccoulson: can you verify the langpacks? [15:31] jdstrand, yeah, will just start kvm now [15:31] chrisccoulson: thanks [15:31] hi all [15:31] I am running 9.04... [15:31] How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 3? [15:32] I already modified my sources list [15:34] i followed the instructions on ubuntugeek.com [15:35] this command > sudo apt-get install thunderbird-3.1 thunderbird-3.1-gnome-support [15:35] TZ_noob: no, that's not ready yet [15:35] produces this result > Reading package lists... Done [15:35] Building dependency tree [15:35] Reading state information... Done [15:35] E: Couldn't find package thunderbird-3.1 [15:35] what is not yet ready? [15:36] TZ_noob: thunderbird 3.1 [15:36] so where does ubuntugeek get THEIR information? [15:36] lol [15:36] TZ_noob: I'll push thunderbird 3.0.6 to the thunderbird-stable PPA, but if nothing's too urgent, I'd suggest waiting for thunderbird 3.1 which we'll push in the coming months [15:36] TZ_noob: I have no idea [15:37] chrisccoulson: I can tell you that they install fine now [15:37] micahg: ok, thanks [15:37] TZ_noob: here's the TB3 stable PPA: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable [15:37] jdstrand, cool. i've not got that far yet as KVM is running like it's been filled with glue ;) [15:37] micahg: how do i install from the PPA? er, first, how do i add PPA on my system? [15:37] heh [15:38] TZ_noob: instructions on the PPA page :) [15:38] lol [15:38] TZ_noob, upgrade to lucid [15:38] ;) [15:38] will need a CD/DVD for that... [15:38] why? [15:38] my bandwidth isnt so good... am in Tanzania (TZ) [15:39] we have the worst of the worst, in terms of bandwidth [15:39] you should get a CD soon then, as jaunty is pretty close to going EOL ;) [15:39] support ends in october [15:39] heck, i cant even run any BitTorrents on my link [15:39] i will see what to do about it, perhaps i will download the ISO for Lucid [15:42] chrisccoulson: is thunderbird getting published to Lucid today? [15:43] micahg - hopefully (jdstrand will know though) [15:43] * micahg just wants to know whether or not to copy to stable PPA [15:43] jdstrand, langpack is fine for karmic [15:44] \o/ [15:44] micahg: no [15:44] I've not tested it due to ff [15:44] jdstrand: no, I shouldn't copy or no, it's not going to be published? [15:45] I am not publishing tbird today [15:45] ok, I'll copy to tb-stable then [15:45] (well, excpet the jaunty one, which is needed for the new nss in jaunty) [15:45] thanks jdstrand [15:45] micahg: np [15:45] wow, the instructions on the launchpad web are so accurate [15:46] i am now actually installing the stable thunderbird 3.0.5 from the PPA [15:46] lol [15:46] actually it's 3.0.7 [15:46] i think KVM is going slow just to annoy me [15:47] what's KVM? [15:47] TZ_noob: 3.0.6 was just released and I just uploaded it, it shoudl build in a couple hours [15:47] micahg: what does this mean? Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main thunderbird 3.0.7~hg20100715r4889+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~jaunty [11.8MB] [15:48] TZ_noob: that's the daily PPA :) [15:48] and? how is it different from 3.0.6? [15:48] or IS IT the 3.0.6? [15:48] TZ_noob: you get updates every day, not guaranteed to be stable [15:48] lol [15:49] TZ_noob: but that branch should be fairly stable [15:49] it was downloaded automatically [15:49] i hope so [15:49] :-) [15:49] TZ_noob: that means you had the PPA installed already [15:49] jdstrand - jaunty is ok too [15:49] ah.. [15:49] so I am doing something right [15:49] micahg: are you officially WITH mozilla? [15:49] * micahg also has to update firefox-stable [15:50] TZ_noob: no, I'm one of the Mozilla maintainers in Ubuntu [15:50] micahg: since i went to firefox years back i have HATED IE... [15:50] IE was the worst software ever designed! [15:50] it still is! [15:50] and so is MS Windows! [15:50] chrisccoulson: \o/ [15:51] they are trying so hard to look like Ubuntu and/or Mac OS X [15:52] micahg: what am i to expect after upgrading to thunderbird 3? will i have my emails and addresses intact, when i launch TB 3? [15:52] TZ_noob: hopefully, but you should back up your .mozilla-thunderbird folder [15:52] that is ~/.mozilla-thunderbird [15:54] well, migration assistant is running, i didnt back up, but messages have not been deleted, they are being indexed [15:54] Mozilla rules! [15:54] TZ_noob: I did my best to make sure that works :) [15:55] it looks and feels exactly like Firefox! with TABS! [15:55] code named Shredder? why the name? [15:56] TZ_noob: because you're running the daily [15:57] daily what? [15:57] TZ_noob: daily build [15:57] somehow, bandwidth seems to be good today... :-) [15:58] micahg: please decipher what this means... [15:58] Welcome to Shredder! [15:58] You've just started using a new nightly version of Thunderbird, code-named "Shredder", that has a different version number from what you previously have been using. It could be that you've just downloaded, or compiled a build, or that the version number has just been updated for a pending release. [15:58] TZ_noob: exactly what it says, it's not a release version, but a nightly/daily build [15:59] so, how long am i expected to use this version? [15:59] i love the name... lol [15:59] TZ_noob: well, from the daily PPA, you will always be using a daily [15:59] if you switch to the stable PPA, you'll get thunderbird [16:00] how do i switch to the stable PPA? [16:00] TZ_noob: remove/comment out the daily PPA and add the one for the thunderbird-stable PPA https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable [16:01] in the software sources list? [16:02] TZ_noob: yes [16:02] TZ_noob: you can just uncheck it [16:02] i added the lines manually with gedit [16:03] TZ_noob: k, well, you can just add a # in front of the line then to comment out [16:03] i see your point [16:04] i copied and pasted what you just wrote, but it wont work... [16:04] isnt there a command that precedes the HTTPS? [16:05] oh, wow, I didn't realize karmic was getting published today \o/ [16:05] micahg, ? [16:06] fta: Firefox 3.6 to karmic [16:06] oh [16:17] micahg: please go to http://pastebin.com/uzABYjS3 [16:17] i tried to upgrade firefox [16:18] TZ_noob: oh, right, I was supposed to upload special transitional packages for that [16:21] that's why it wont work? [16:21] yep, give me a minute [16:23] ok, i guess i will do this when i get back [16:23] have to run now [16:23] bye all and thanks [16:24] is jaunty firefox getting published today as well? [16:25] jdstrand: ^^ [16:25] micahg: yes. I am in the rocess now and will be for the next few hours [16:35] jdstrand, were you planning to do hardy and lucid today too? [16:37] chrisccoulson: everything is going out. I am in the middle of it now [16:37] jdstrand, awesome, thanks [16:37] i think i owe you a beer! [16:37] chrisccoulson: ff, xul, rdepends, lanpacks, etc for hardy-lucid [16:37] heh === fta__ is now known as fta [17:55] hey jdstrand, how's it going? === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | ML: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.7 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 Coming Soon to Maverick/PPA | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW | Next Meeting: TBD === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | Mailing List: http://is.gd/83fnr | Firefox 3.6.7 in Hardy-Maverick | Thunderbird 3.1 Coming Soon to Maverick/PPA | Help test Mozilla prerelease updates http://is.gd/dsudW | Next Meeting: TBD