[00:35] if i have a norma installation, and download the rt kernel would i be able to use jack rt? [00:35] or i have to do some magic coding tricks to tune the distro? [00:35] dont wanna take everything off and put ubuntustudio from scratch.. [00:36] hey tuizim [00:36] sure [00:36] just install linux-rt however you install things [00:36] then check out [00:36] !grub2 [00:36] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [00:36] and decide how you want to deal with booting your RT kernel [00:37] hm [00:37] you can run uname -a in a terminal to make sure you are running the RT kernel [00:37] then check out [00:37] !vanilla [00:37] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [00:37] for how to install the metapackages if you want them [00:38] for instance, can i just choose on synaptic ubunstudio audio and rt kernel? [00:38] ubuntustudio meta [00:38] and voilá ? [00:38] thats awesome :) [00:38] sure [00:38] pretty much [00:38] tuizim: you might want to just search ubuntustudio [00:38] in synaptic or watever [00:38] and read about the meta packages [00:38] and decide what you want [00:39] tuizim: and try the generic kernel [00:39] and get the RT one if needed [00:39] i dont wanna ubuntustudio skin changes [00:39] just the audio part [00:39] ill do audio editing mostly, kinda in the mood to try the rt stuff again [00:40] you want sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins linux-rt [00:40] tuizim: you dont need the RT kernel to try the software [00:40] you might just want lower latency at some point [00:40] tuizim: are you planning on using it for real-time effects processing? [00:41] or software synthesis ? [00:41] both [00:41] OK [00:41] go for it then :) [00:41] the studio will have reharshals and recording [00:41] another good resource is http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ [00:41] whoa! thanks [00:44] tuizim: you using your internal sound card? [00:45] i got an maudio delta 1010 [00:45] on a dell 4700 [00:45] AH [00:45] no video card [00:45] those work well [00:45] shaggy stuff [00:46] 1010lt? [00:46] it was kinda forgotten, im ressurectint this dell [00:46] or the fancy one with the breakout box? [00:46] it had 256 ram, bought 2gb [00:46] no, lt [00:46] you should be fine [00:46] and the ugly cables [00:46] theres a guy [00:46] thanks very much for the attention! [00:46] pipemanmusic [00:47] over in #opensourcemusicians [00:47] not much action on this chan lately [00:47] has a 1010lt [00:47] says he gets like 1.2ms latency stable [00:47] something really low like that [00:47] tuizim: yeah, i usually sit back and answer questions when i can [00:48] whoa! with rt kernel i supose [00:48] this would have been a under karmic or jaunty we were talking about it [00:49] so yeah, the RT kernel [00:49] he's on lucid now though [00:49] and hasnt complained [00:49] ill just dive them [00:49] iv installed ubuntustudio in it, with the 256 ram [00:49] didnt work out wel [00:50] if your wanting to run a studio on a p3 [00:50] i would look at an old distro [00:50] dynebolic [00:50] its a p4 [00:50] tuizim: you bumped up the ram right? [00:50] yeah [00:50] i got a p4 2.4 with a gig of ram [00:51] and its running ubuntu studio well [00:51] i wouldnt call it nimble or elegant [00:51] but its more than do-able [00:54] nice [00:55] the one think i got mad was skype and jack [00:55] even youtube i got into jack [00:55] and didnt found an alternative to use skype as a radio microfone [00:55] to people talk live [00:56] AH [00:56] tuizim: those guys in that channel had it going [00:56] the opensourcemusician guys [00:56] the podcasters [00:56] one of them is in canada and the other in the mid-west somewhere [00:57] US [00:57] and they had skype to JACK [00:57] they use mumble now [01:01] yeah [01:01] im im brasil [01:02] its quite large, people always very far away on the coletive podcasts [01:02] well, its kinda of urgent this, ill get my hands dirty [01:02] nice talking to you man! [01:02] tuizim: good luck :) [01:03] let us know how it goes [01:03] surely [01:03] [lsd] will tell you about skype to JACK sometime [01:03] he just got up i think [01:04] anyways [01:06] would be nicer with skype, since people already have it going on theyr pcs [01:06] it works [01:06] easyer for someone we interview or so [01:06] those guys just wanted mumble so everything would be opensource [01:07] which is nice [01:11] thats an important point for us too [01:11] go all the way [03:24] I have a new install of ustudio, the system will not access the internet wireless or connected by cable, it would not connect during the install even after trying repeatedly [03:25] why is xchat erasing the first part of everything?!!! [03:26] I have a new Ustudio install on my laptop and it... (see above) [03:26] timposey: hey [03:26] i think i talked to you earlier [03:26] get that thing plugged in to your router [03:27] yes, I tried it with the cable and it would not work. [03:27] yeah? [03:27] interesting... [03:27] timposey: plug the cable in [03:27] and restart the box [03:27] just to make sure [03:27] I did that [03:28] I installed ubuntu 10.04 side by side on the drive and when I boot from regular ubuntu it works fine [03:29] timposey: gotcha [03:29] but you have the network cable plugged in [03:29] and restared the box [03:30] and no-go? [03:30] yes and no-go [03:30] well, its on the DVD too [03:30] the nm-applet [03:31] you can tell synaptic to use the DVD as a repo [03:31] and install it from there [03:31] im 90% sure thats what you need [03:31] 99% [03:31] I have the ISO installed on my usb memory [03:32] you should be able to point synaptic to it [03:32] how would I go about just getting that without reinstalling everything? [03:32] just open synaptic [03:33] system - administration - synaptic package manager [03:33] go to settings - repositories [03:34] go to the 'other software' tab [03:34] and whay synaptic would I be looking for [03:34] and go to 'add cd-rom' [03:34] ok [03:34] but im pretty sure you need the acutal DVD [03:34] for this to work auto-magically [03:34] we'll see [03:37] If it will work without the cd or dvd, I don't see how to do it. [03:37] do you have the DVD? [03:37] no, I will have to burn one. [03:38] thats what we will call 'the easy way' ;) [03:38] you can poke around though [03:38] and find the .deb somewhere in that iso image [03:39] you'll need dependancies though [03:41] what package will I be looking for? [03:42] nm-applet [03:42] i would burn the ISO to disc though [03:42] or just wipe that install [03:43] and install what you want from ubuntustudio into the other install [03:43] we can call that 'plan B' [03:43] I have tried that in the past, but it just did not work that well, I was hoping by doing the full install that it would work better. [03:44] sure [03:44] do you need internet then? [03:44] in that install? [03:44] if its a studio install [03:45] I can already see this is going to be a huge learning curve I was using ulead video studio on windows and final cut on mac. It would be nice to have it so that I could download the photos and video that I have online right now. [03:45] OK [03:45] so you need it [03:45] yeah, burn that iso [03:46] and go through the above steps [03:46] with synaptic [03:46] I will burn the dvd and give it a try and see what happens. thanks for the help. [03:46] when you ad the CD as a repo [03:46] you'll be promted to 'reload' [03:46] you'll want to do that [03:46] then search for nm-applet [03:46] that and some other things should install [03:47] and hopefully after restaring [03:47] restarting* [03:47] it will just automagically work like the other install [03:47] if not [03:47] timposey: come find me :) [03:47] or someone in here [03:48] thanks, just glad someone is here... [03:48] im always logged in here [03:48] i just might be out [03:48] good luck :) [03:54] holstein you still there? [03:55] timposey: yo [03:55] I burned the dvd put it in the drive tried to access it but it says failed to mount the cd-rom [03:56] which is actually a dvd [03:56] hmmm [03:56] bad disc? [03:56] but it is mounted in places [03:57] timposey: just try in synaptic [03:57] and see if it'll mount that way [03:57] if not [03:57] we'll have to try something different [03:58] timposey: bb... phone [04:18] hmmm [04:18] missed em [04:19] I burned a cd with just ubuntu 10.04 and I found a package called network-manager-gnome that was not installed [04:20] timposey: OH [04:20] tuizim split [04:20] i got confused [04:20] could that be it? [04:20] timposey: that should do it [04:20] all that stuff should be on that ISO as well [04:20] good idea :) [04:21] now I [04:21] timposey: did you find nm-applet? [04:22] 'm comfused.. it now pops up with a window that says insert the disk for ubuntu studio into /media/apt/ [04:23] i think network-manager-gnome is the one that you want [04:23] maybe its been renamed [04:23] timposey: in synaptic [04:23] why would it say /apt/ [04:23] yes [04:23] uncheck the box beside that repo [04:23] the one that enabled the CD as a repo [04:24] timposey: the /apt is going to be becuase apt is using it as a repo [04:25] timposey: uncheck that box *after* you get network-manager-gnome and its dependancies installed [04:26] that is the thing, it will not let me install it. [04:26] when I uncheck the box then it is not showing as available for install [04:27] OH [04:27] timposey: yeah [04:27] so re-check that box [04:27] then tell me what error you get [04:28] when trying to install network-manager-gnome [04:28] timposey: be sure to hit the 'reload' button [04:30] timposey: whats it look like? [04:31] i would go to the 'other software' tab [04:31] and get rid of the repo you added [04:31] i bet you added the studio DVD [04:31] get rid of that one and whatever else you added [04:31] and start over [04:32] when I do that it says error scanning the cd E: failed to mount the cd-rom [04:32] leave the ones that are 'archive.connonical' alone [04:32] canonical* [04:32] I have not touched them [04:34] so [04:34] take the CD out of the drive [04:34] in the 'other software tab' you should have only 2 things there right? [04:35] correct [04:35] OK [04:35] so put the CD in [04:35] ok [04:36] then try that 'add CD-rom' button again [04:36] no-go? [04:37] it just asks again to put the cd in [04:37] under the 'ubuntu software' tab [04:37] then the error scanning the cd message [04:37] theres an option at the bottom [04:38] yes [04:38] 'installable from CDrom/DVD [04:38] try enabling that with the checkbox [04:38] and see if you have any joy [04:38] i really need to do this sometime [04:38] test it [04:38] so i know how to do it [04:39] and strip out the .debs for others to DL [04:39] this comes up a lot [04:39] but usually, theres some other way of getting online [04:39] anyways [04:39] timposey: whats it look like? [04:40] that is when I see that the package is not installed [04:40] yeah [04:40] but when I hit apply it looks in /media/apt [04:40] but its there right? [04:40] and doesnt get it? [04:41] yes [04:41] dammit [04:43] it is not looking at the media/cd-dvd rom drive. [04:45] timposey: OK [04:45] go back to reposiories [04:45] and uncheck that box [04:45] I'm going to give up tonight, I may try a full reinstall tomorrow. [04:45] get the CD out [04:45] timposey: if you got one sec [04:46] ok [04:46] are you still hardwired? [04:46] to the net? [04:47] yes [04:47] hey ScottL [04:47] you got a minute? [04:49] timposey: sorry [04:49] i got nothin [04:49] i thought i had an install around here that was network manager free [04:49] but i dont [04:49] timposey: i'll know more about it next time i see you [04:49] ok [04:50] thanks for your time [04:50] hi holstein [04:50] OH [04:50] timposey is having a hell of a time ScottL [04:50] installing the gnome network manager [04:51] from the DVD [04:51] and ive never had to do it [04:51] any suggestions? [04:51] eh, i've never actually done it either, but yeah i've got one [04:51] timposey doesnt have internet on the box [04:52] you can always navigate to .../pool/g/gnome-network-manager and double click on the .deb package [04:52] timposey: can you get that DVD to mount? [04:52] and try that real quick? [04:52] * holstein makes note of that location :) [04:52] yes but under pool, I don't have g [04:53] timposey: is that the ubuntustudio iso? [04:53] yes [04:53] maybe under n then for network [04:53] oh, yeah i belive it's under n [04:53] ubuntu-Studio 10.04 LTS amd64 [04:54] i remember finding network-manager, network-applet and network-admin all in the same directory [04:54] /pool/main/g ... [04:54] all I have are main multiverse restricted and universe [04:54] oh, yeah and main [04:54] sorry, i'm really tired and probably not thinking straight [04:55] im in the maverick iso [04:55] that should be similar though [04:55] ok found it [04:55] sweet :) [04:56] outstanding...you can copy the .deb file to your desktop and double click it...that's probably the best way i think [04:56] I found gnome-nettool [04:56] network manager is not there [04:57] try under N [04:57] under n network manager [04:57] yeah [04:58] saying dependency is not met, looks like I might have to do some searching [04:58] and network manager applet too [04:59] timposey: all the dependancies will be in that main directory though [04:59] *should* [04:59] thanks, I found it [05:00] good deal :) [05:00] or you all found it, I just followed instructions and not too well.. lol [05:00] * ScottL is going to bed [05:00] thanks ScottL :) [05:00] GN [14:34] Is there some way to set an ICM profile for all X Windows applications? for all GTK applications? I have discovered an ICM profile for my monitor. How can I see what settings I need to set my monitor to for it to match the profile? [15:54] rumbert: From various posts Google revealed me, xcalib seems to be an option. Have you tried that? [15:55] no [15:55] * rumbert looks [16:08] rumbert: Oh, and definitely check dispwin (search for Argyll CMS) [16:19] rumbert: You can check further from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-636874.html, jcornuz's email has a lot of links. [16:20] got it [20:45] is my fresh ubuntustudio install only supposed to boot up into xterm? [20:46] kasbah85: *shouldnt* [20:47] kasbah85: did you try a lucid live CD on the hardware before installing? [20:48] lucid is installed on another parition actually [20:48] works fine [20:49] gnome seems to be installed [20:53] hmmm [20:53] kasbah85: maybe you have a bad disc? [20:54] you can just remove that install [20:54] i checksummed the iso [20:54] and install what packages from ubuntustudio you want in your other install [20:54] but i used unetbootin to do a usb instalation [20:54] maybe that was the problem [20:54] AH [20:54] yeah [20:54] its probably not tested for [20:55] there are special steps to install the alternate CD's from USB [20:55] yeah, i just wanted to try it first before i mess with my existing ubuntu [20:55] i found one special step to mount the "cdrom" [20:56] the rest seemed to work fine until the install finished and it only logged me into an xterm [20:56] youve tried logging in and starting X? [20:57] i just tried "xinit". but that was probably the wrong way. [20:57] "start gdm"? [20:58] X does start... but only with xterm--the mouse works [20:58] hmmmm [20:58] let me think about that then [20:58] i think i will just burn a DVD [20:58] and maybe someone will come along [20:59] just to be clear: X starts on its own upon login only with xterm [21:02] went to a new terminal. stopped gdm and restarted. had the same effect [21:02] and when you get it runing [21:02] it seems normal? [21:02] when i get what running? [21:02] X [21:03] the mouse works, but there is nothing else, just an embedded xterm [21:03] like the thing for testing X [21:03] strange [21:04] i will reformat and try again from USB since i don't have a DVD right now [21:04] kasbah85: you want to just add the packages to your other install? [21:04] you dont really need to dual boot ubuntu and ubuntustudio [21:04] unless you just want to [21:04] no I don't want to do that just yet [21:05] i wanted to test it first [21:05] you dont have to add everything [21:05] its just several metapackages really [21:05] i was hoping it would set up my 0404 correctly and jack etc [21:06] i could just set those things up myself i guess [21:06] yeah [21:06] emu-0404 soundcard that is [21:06] its not going to do anthing 'magical' [21:06] AWWWW... [21:06] hehe [21:06] i usually just get the audio stuff [21:07] sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins [21:07] maybe linux-rt too [21:08] a link for later :) http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ [21:08] ok danke [21:10] kasbah85: 404 USB or PCI? [21:11] if you got the PCI one, you should be good to go [21:11] getting JACK running the first time is tricky [21:12] PCI .. yeah i had it working a while back.. got lucky with the firmware too [21:13] yeah to be honest it was quite easy to set up [21:14] i was kind of hoping that i would see something in ubuntustudio to use the effects etc that the card provides [21:14] maybe the mixer [21:14] i thought it used the one that the delta 1010lt uses [21:15] maybe, i don't know [21:15] STILL, that package would be in the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage [21:15] ok cool [21:16] if you want to dual boot something [21:16] check out http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ [21:17] its kubuntu like [21:17] lots of changes though [21:17] KDE too, if you can handle that [21:17] * holstein is not running KXstudio [21:17] but i have a test install